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MWEBE Committee Meeting 9/15/21
A
So
on
and
so
on,
jack
scapin
is
going
to
provide
just
a
brief
overview
of
the
1815
project
on
ridge
as
well
as
aina
with
her
group,
erw
and
so
on.
If
you
just
read
the
agenda,
nick
will
go
after
aina's
presentation
just
so
we
don't
keep
everybody,
and
then
I
can
do
the
reports
we'll
close
out
with
that.
So
does
that
sound
like
a
plan.
B
A
D
A
E
A
Get
a
phone
call
from
the
other
council
members,
so
I'm
going
to
have
to
put
them
on
hold
for
a
second,
but
as
a
result
of
an
executive
order
issued
by
governor
jb
pritzker
suspending
in-person
attendance
requirements
for
public
meetings.
Committee
members
and
staff
city
staff
will
be
participating
in
this
meeting
remotely
due
to
public
health
concerns.
Residents
will
not
be
able
to
provide
public
comment
in
person
at
the
meeting.
G
F
H
A
D
I
A
A
That's
correct
jack
scapin
is
here
jack,
so
much
for
making
yourself
available
to
give
an
update.
Mark
valente
of
valente
builders
is
also
here
and
they've
done
a
phenomenal
job
with
the
1850
15
rather
rich
project.
We
just
wanted
to
give
a
brief
update
regarding
the
success
we've
had
with
trades
workforce
development
and
just
a
phenomenal
job
that
these
guys
have
done
so
with
that
I'll
I'll.
Let
jack
start
his
report
for
us
and
let
mark
underscore
anything
he
needs
to.
This
is
a
private
development.
B
J
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
here
to
meet
with
everybody,
it's
great,
to
see
a
lot
of
faces
again,
some
familiar
some
new
ones.
This
was
a
a
great
project
to
be
a
part
of,
and
I
really
appreciate
that
opportunity
from
from
you
mike
as
well,
to
give
you
guys
just
a
little
bit
of
quick
background
on
the
the
scope
of
the
work
we
were
able
to
construct
the
nine-story
senior
living
building
there
at
1815
ridges.
As
sharon
noted.
J
So
the
the
long
story
short
and
I'm
happy
to
get
into
some
more
details
as
we
go
along
here,
is
that
we
were
able
to
achieve
our
goal
of
10
evanstonians
working
on
the
project.
In
fact,
we
exceeded
the
opportunities
we
were
able
to
provide
13
opportunities
to
different
residents.
Ten
people
did
take
us
up
on
the
on
the
opportunity
and
participated
throughout
the
project.
J
That
was
the
reason
for
our
success
is
because
we
were
able
to
partner
with
a
lot
of
folks,
like
yourselves
from
lynn
weiss
at
the
work
ethic
program
who
was
able
to
provide
us
with
an
evanston
township
high
school
gentleman
by
the
name
of
clark.
Hauser
clark
helped
finish
the
job
from
our
standpoint
in
in
punch
list
and
going
through,
so
it
was
really
great
to
get
him
exposed
to
the
different
trades
on
the
job.
J
J
K
To
make
really
good
long-lasting
impact
on
individuals
if
we
can
continue
this
work
towards
getting
apprenticeship
positions,
starting
with
work
in
the
city
of
evanston,
when
we
have
those
opportunities
and
make
those
available
to
to
young
people
in
the
community.
So
for
us
you
know
the
last
18
months
has
been
about
1815
ridge,
but
we're
committed
to
the
mission
so
to
speak
and
and
intend
to
continue
that
work.
B
This
is
michael,
if
I
could
just
add
just
a
few
comments.
One
thank
you
valenti
builders,
the
entire
team.
You
know,
but
you
mark
and
jack,
for
really
dedicating
yourself
to
actually
accomplishing
this,
because
not
only
is
this
hard
in
a
normal
environment
but
doing
it
in
a
pandemic
when
apprenticeships
are
closed
and
unions
are
are
kind
of
shut
down
from
from
it
from
a
an
opportunity
to
get
new
people
into
them.
K
And
michael,
thank
you
for
that,
and
just
for,
for
you
know,
vision
and
leadership
going
back
to
the
beginning
here
in
how
we
all
tried
to
approach
this
and
again,
that's
really,
you
know.
For
me,
what
was
important
that
I
wanted
to
express
today.
Is
that
we're
not
looking
at
this
as
an
end?
It's
it's!
You
know
this.
K
This
is
got
to
be
a
longitudinal
effort
and
we're
continuing
to
kind
of
network
and
understand
who
some
of
the
entities
are
who
who
are
involved
in
this
and
how
how
we
can
be
a
positive
part
of
connecting
some
dots
in
in
a
way
that
leads
to
future
opportunities.
So,
just
just
that's
what
I
wanted
to
share,
and
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
to
be
here
to
do
that.
D
B
I
M
B
And
the
state
inspections
start
next
week
for
the
final
licensing
and
that
will
that
will
be
be
it
so
of
the
50
or
so
employees
that
we
we're
going
to
have.
Ultimately,
we
have
around
15,
currently
hired
and
another
four
or
five
identified,
but
they're
they're
staff
members
that
don't
have
a
of
a
of
a
role
until
the
building
is
open,
so
they're
not
technically
on
payroll.
B
B
B
B
I
think
14
are
women
or
minorities
and
maybe
13.,
but
we
are
a
very
diverse
team
and
are
are
really
proud
of
the
effort
so
far
from
the
staff,
the
executive
director
and
the
and
solera
senior
living.
Who
is
the
management
company
that
that
is
really
guiding
the
you
know
that
these
these
people
report
to
you
know.
K
B
Ultimately,
work
for
so
we're
excited
in
the
next
two
or
three
weeks
to
really
get
the
you
know.
A
lot
of
the
staff
on
board
they've
also
been
working
with
with
we,
with
with
maya
with
other
not-for-profits
in
the
area,
we're
expanding
that
we're.
Actually,
I
think,
going
to
reach
out
to
connections
to
the
homeless,
to
to
work
with
them,
to
provide
opportunities
for
full-time
employment,
for
people
at
risk
of
losing
jobs
or
losing
apartments.
B
B
F
B
I
B
K
B
I
B
We
happen
what
I'm
being
told
by
our
executive
director
is
that
we
have
an
overwhelming
response
from
local
people
who
want
to
work
in
this
building,
and
we're
really
really
excited
about
that.
So
we're
very
confident
in
continuing
to
to
to
meet
or
or
potentially
exceed,
our
commitment
of
50
of
our
employees
and
you
know
from
evanston
and
and
keep
pushing
it
forward.
A
B
B
B
B
It
is
not
a
nursing
home,
so
it's
not
being
licensed
to
provide
nursing
care,
but
it
does
provide
nursing
supervision,
medicine
distribution,
help
getting
dressed,
help
showering
and
bathing,
and
we
have
about
15
000
square
feet
of
indoor
amenity
space,
including
dining
recreation,
art
and
crafts,
outdoor
with
three
different
outdoor
four
different
outdoor
balconies,
and
it
it.
It
is
a
market
rate.
There's
there's
no
support
for
seniors
in
our
state
right
now
whatsoever
for
subsidies
for
supportive
living
there.
It
is
a
full
market
rate
project.
B
We
have
committed
to
hiring
at
least
50
of
our
staff
from
within
evanston
we've
spent
at
least
a
quarter
million
dollars
to
date
on
improving
the
the
church's
property,
their
access,
their
handicap
accessibility,
their
parking
lots.
We
have
some
work
yet
to
yet
to
finish,
but
that's
part
of
our
public
benefit.
We
are
a
leed
silver
certified
building,
because
it's
a
planned
development.
B
We
are,
we've
got
a
temporary
certificate
of
occupancy
that
doesn't
allow
residents
or
staff
in
the
building
just
for
furniture
installation.
What
not?
We
expect
the
the
full
tco
and
certificate
of
occupancy
this
week-
or
you
know,
maybe
early
next
week
at
the
latest,
for
paper
processing
and
should
be
open
to
the
public
in
early
october,
for
residents
to
move
in.
B
Yeah,
so
there
was
the
affordable
housing
policy
does
not
did
not
apply
to
the
project.
However,
we
are
currently
making
a
400
000
contribution
to
the
affordable
housing
fund.
We
we
have
reserved
in
the
planned
development
two
on-site
units
for
for
affordable
housing
at
80
percent
ami,
not
including
services
and
food.
B
We
have
some
ideas,
creative
ideas,
I
think
productive
ideas,
ideas
in
line
with
the
new
city
council
members
and
the
kind
of
the
new
newer,
a
different
vision-
or
this
was
approved
at
least
four
years
ago.
So
a
different
vision
than
evanson
had
back
then
that
we
are
excited
to
explore
and
we'll
be
presenting.
I
Hey
mike,
if
I
can
add
on
to
that,
because
I
think
you're
selling
yourself
a
little
bit
short
in
terms
of
the
contributions
overall
community
benefits
you've
also
just
for
the
intimacy
of
this
group,
you
might
want
to
share
the
improvements
around
the
church,
the
dollar
amount
and,
of
course,
for
everyone.
That's
on
the
on
our
committee.
I
A
I
B
Yeah,
there's
no
there's
no
municipal
money
in
this
in
this
project,
so
the
the
public
benefits
we,
we
offered
the
pub
the
local
hiring
as
as
part
of
our
public
benefits.
So
we
we
spent
approximately
at
least
half
a
million
dollars
in
public
right-of-way
and
church
property
improvements
around
the
church.
B
That
includes
rebuilding
what
was
called
oak
avenue.
We
renamed
it
norwood
after
the
former
pastor
of
the
church,
so
the
the
street
is
now
permanently
named
norwood
lane.
I
believe
we
rebuilt
the
entire
street
we
built
sidewalks,
which
did
not
exist.
We
widened
it.
We
paid
for
par
a
new
parking
meter,
part
of
the
new
parking
system.
B
We
rebuilt
the
entire
side
yard
and
lower
parking
lot
and
a
handy
cap
accessibility
to
the
church
with
all
new
landscaping.
We
we
expanded
and
resealed
the
upper
parking
lot.
We
ex
we
connected
them
with
a
ramp.
The
two
parking
lots
were
separated
by
a
four
four
five
foot
shear
wall
in
the
past,
so
that
there
was
not
accessibility
there.
Now
there
is
accessibility.
B
We
were
supposed
to
landscape
the
upper
parking
lot
when
we
removed
the
raised
planters
that
the
church
wanted
removed
to
replace
with
lower
plantings.
We
actually
exposed
well
caps
and
things
from
the
former
gas
station,
and
we
were
our
environmental
consultants,
wouldn't
let
us
like
actually
dig
into
the
ground
and
plant
anything
so
we're
working
with
megan
jones
and
community
development
and
parks
and
rec
and
and
our
landscaper
to
come
up
with
a
solution
for
a
raised
bed
that
has
less
maintenance
than
the
church.
B
I
think
I
think
that's
about
it.
It
was
a
significant
effort
and
a
lot
of
public
land
that
was
improved
as
part
of
the
the
development.
If
you
recall,
this
was
kind
of
a
forgotten
back
alley
corner
of
downtown
and
it
now
it
really
is
a
gateway
site
and
it
looks
much
more
like
a
gateway
site
than
than
it
ever
has
in
its
past.
I
I
I
B
I
F
M
B
B
D
E
E
D
Much
I
I
would,
I
want
to
move
to
hear
from
providing
about
partnership
took
place,
but
maybe
during
your
presentation
you
can
you
can
add
that
to
your
presentation
just
to
keep
things
moving,
but
thank
you
so
much
mike
and
mark
and
jack
and
everyone
else
here
from
valencia
brothers.
I
appreciate
it
sharon
just
to
make
sure
cummings
speak
to
new
business.
First
before
either's
presentation.
D
L
Thank
you,
alderman
burns
alderman
members
of
the
committee
we
have
been
here
before,
but
I
want
to
make
sure.
With
new
committee
members,
we
have
an
opportunity
to
introduce
ourselves,
I'm
aina
gutierrez,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
evanston
rebuilding
warehouse,
I'm
here
with
two
of
my
colleagues,
mel
sanchez,
who's,
our
development
director
and
ann
nickland,
who
many
of
you
know
as
our
director
of
workforce
training
and
deconstruction
services.
L
We
thought
we'd
use
this
opportunity
to
kind
of
share
a
little
bit
about
our
work
and
specifically
how
the
city
of
evanston's
investments
have
helped
grow.
Our
work
as
well
as
talk
about
this
unique
opportunity
that
we
have
not
only
with
arpa
but
in
a
labor
market
in
which
we
have
the
opportunity
to
provide
access
and
diversify
the
building
traits,
and
so
we're
excited
about
that
and
to
share
that
with
you.
I'm
going
to
attempt
to
share
my
screen.
A
L
L
What
that
looks
like
on
the
ground
in
evanston
is
we
have
a
reused
retail
store
that
is
open
to
the
public,
which
I
hope
many
of
you
have
been
inside
and
found
treasures
diverted
from
the
waste
stream.
We
provide
educational
programming
on
reuse
and
repair,
so
learning
how
to
fix
things
instead
of
throwing
them
away,
we're
the
only
deconstruction
service
provider,
a
non-profit
deconstruction
service
provider
in
the
region.
So
we
take
apart
houses
by
hand
for
recycling
and
reuse
and
we
do
workforce
training
and
we're
talking
more
specifically
about
the
workforce
training
program
today.
L
B
L
L
More
than
half
of
our
participants
are
evanston
residents
and
all
are
low-income,
and
it
provides
an
opportunity
for
folks
to
learn
new
skills
find
employment
in
a
field
that
has
a
lot
of
gross
potential,
which
also
benefits
the
person
trained,
but
overall
our
community-
and
we
don't
do
any
of
this
without
partnerships
so
just
wanted
to
highlight.
We
have
strong
relationships.
All
of
the
groups
that
have
already
been
mentioned,
evanston,
we
meak
the
local
employment
program,
the
city's
youth
young,
adult
division.
L
L
You
can
see
here
how
we've
grown
with
evanston.
We
started
as
a
very
small
program
as
an
organization
we're
only
10
years
old,
and
so
you
can
see
the
investments
that
the
city
of
evanston
is
made
with
us,
as
well
as
how
that
has
impacted
the
number
of
people
that
we
serve.
So
this
committee
has
been
gracious
to
in
the
last
couple
of
years
award
forty
thousand
dollars
to
expand
our
services
and
train
more
evanston
residents.
L
We've
received
funds
from
the
city's
small
business
workforce
program
and
in
2020
we
received
tiff
funding
to
move
until
our
much
larger
home
at
1245
hartree.
So
now
we
occupy
more
than
28
000
square
feet
in
that
space.
That
is
open
to
the
public,
and
I
hope,
when
we
get
to
meet
in
person
again
really
is
a
driver
of
sustainability
and
employment
in
our
community.
We
want
to
open
our
doors
to
everyone
to
meet
and
to
connect
and
to
receive
supportive
services
there.
L
So
I
just
want
to
highlight
what
is
the
opportunity
before
us
and
the
growth
potential,
and
I
think
our
developer
and
builder
friends
know
very
well
that
over
the
next
decade
billions
of
dollars
are
going
to
be
invested
in
major
public
construction
and
infrastructure
projects.
I
see
on
your
your
agenda
here,
you're
going
to
talk
about
blood
service
line,
rep
replacement.
L
This
is
an
amazing
opportunity.
There
are
literally
more
jobs
than
people
to
fill
those
jobs,
and
you
can
see
the
graphic
here
that
we
have
shows
that
construction
employment
dipped
in
the
pandemic
and
has
not
yet
risen
to
levels
that
were
before
the
pandemic,
and
so
this
from
our
perspective,
is
an
opportunity.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
evanston
residents
to
access
these
careers,
as
well
as
encourage
full
inclusion
of
women,
people
of
color
and
other
folks
in
the
construction
workforce.
L
I
live
in
evanston.
I
live
in
the
fifth
ward
and
I
want
evanston
residents
fixing
our
streets
and
our
sidewalks
and
replacing
our
lead
service
pipes,
and
I
think
that
we
can
do
that,
but
is
an
issue
of
supply
and
demand,
and
the
task
before
us,
we
believe,
is
to
grow
that
supply
in
new
and
more
innovative
ways.
L
So
you
can
see
here,
and
it
is
also
in
the
packet.
Our
idea
is
to
be
able
to
leverage
arpa
funding
to
expand
our
workforce
training
services
and
create
a
pre-apprenticeship
building
trades
program.
So
what
we
have
already
the
core
20-week
inclusive
intensive
program
will
not
go
away.
What
we're
suggesting
is
that
we
try
to
reach
more
people
that
maybe
don't
need
that
level
of
support
that
maybe
don't
need
20
weeks
of
getting
up
working
in
a
crew,
learning,
job
readiness
and
receiving
those
services.
L
My
dad
was
a
railroad,
foreman
growing
up
and
a
union
member,
and
I
remember
being
a
kid
and
him
going
through
that
process.
It
was
not
easy
and
it's
not
easy
for
a
lot
of
members
of
our
community
for
lots
of
reasons,
we're
building
a
building
trades
program
that
reflects
best
practice
in
the
state
of
illinois,
and
there
is
actually
other
funding
we're
trying
to
leverage
to
figure
out
how
we
do
this
coming
from
the
governor's
office
himself
as
an
acknowledgement
that
we
need
to
train
people
up
to
be
able
to
access
these
jobs.
L
So
this
kind
of
shares,
kind
of
the
components
of
what
we
would
do
in
our
more
expanded
program.
So
for
recruitment
we
would
focus
on
evanston
residents.
I'm
passionate
about
starting
or
restarting
a
building
trades
career.
One
place,
obviously
to
start
would
be
with
this
committee
and
the
services
provided
to
residents
from
the
city's
local
employment
program.
L
Industry
recognized
credentials.
We
would
continue
to
work
with
our
partners,
oai
inc
and
jark
the
jane
adams
resource
center.
So
we
can
get
participants
the
osha
10
in
construction,
the
first
aid
cpr
certification
and
the
national
center
for
construction,
education
and
research
certificate,
which
is
a
nationally
known
certificate
that
assists
in
apprenticeship
program
pathways.
L
We
would
continue
our
professional
and
personal
readiness,
services
and
partner
with
our
network
of
social
service
agencies
and
the
city
to
help
provide
supportive
and
career
readiness
services.
We
also
have
limited
budget.
We
are
a
snap
to
success
program
which
allows
us
some
government
funding
to
assist
with
reducing
barriers
that
prevent
participants
from
accessing
and
staying
in
careers.
So
that
could
be
getting
your
driver's
license
back
having
tools
on
the
first
day,
glasses,
haircuts
for
interviews,
and
we
have
access
to
funding
for
all
of
that
kind
of
stuff
and
then,
finally,
our
employment
services.
L
We
are
presenting
it
to
the
committee
both
because
we
value
your
partnership
and
also
believe
that
the
objective
of
the
committee
is
also
our
goal,
which
is
to
get
more
folks
in
the
trades
and
to
have
the
diversity
of
our
community
reflected
in
building
our
community
back
up
through
some
of
these
public
dollars.
That
we
know
are
going
to
come
a
couple
things.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
just
about
us.
L
We
talked
about
snap
to
success,
but
also
we
are
very
aware
that
this,
the
arpa
funding
is
really
a
once
in
a
generation,
if
not
once
in
a
lifetime
opportunity
and
as
a
social
enterprise
who
earns
75
percent
of
our
budget.
We
believe
that
we
can
leverage
that
social
enterprise
model
to
be
able
to
create
something
lasting.
L
H
L
We
have
not
done
a
formal
survey.
I
will
say
that
in
the
six
years
that
we've
done,
workforce
training
demand
well
outseeds.
The
supply
of
the
positions
that
we
have,
and
the
vast
majority
of
people
that
we
serve
are
women
and
bypac.
Folks,
I
think,
statistically
broader
than
evanston,
you
can
certainly
demonstrate
what
representation
looks
like
and-
and
we
like,
we
really
lean
into
the
trades
as
an
industry,
because
it
has
a
lot
of
it
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
educational
requirements
it
doesn't
have.
L
N
N
The
folks
that
we
serve
are
coming
to
us
because
this
is
where
they
want
to
go
and
they
haven't
had
another
pathway
to
it.
So,
whether
it's
recent
eths
grads
or
you
know
right
now,
we
just
registered
a
52
year
old,
evanston
single
mother,
who's,
going
to
start
with
us
on
monday
and
is
really
excited
to
completely
change
careers.
She
has
a
master's
degree
and
she
just
wants
to
get
into
construction
and
doesn't
have
another
way
into
it.
So
we
are
really
meeting
people
and
trying
to
connect
them
from
their
goals.
H
B
B
B
D
N
I
think
that,
as
we
move
towards
more
folks
going
into
the
unions,
we're
going
to
start
to
see
a
much
higher
average
and
we're
still
seeing
employers
catch
up
with
both
the
cook
county
increase,
as
well
as
the
city
of
chicago
increase.
So
it's
slowly
been
moving
up
three
years
ago,
when
we
were
getting
our
graduates
out,
people
were
trying
to
offer
them
12
an
hour
and
we've
been
training,
employers
right
kind
of
every
step
of
the
way.
It's
not
just
working
with
our
trainees.
N
It's
also
working
really
actively
with
employers,
because
we
want
we
want
successful
matches.
I'm
not
interested
in
a
10-minute
match,
I'm
interested
in
a
10-month
match,
so
the
wages
have
been
moving
up.
But
honestly,
it's
been
slow,
open
wage.
The
majority
of
our
placements
to
date
have
been
in
what's
called
an
open
shop,
a
non-union
shop
and
it's
typically
smaller
employers,
so
the
wages
have
been
slower
to
catch
up,
but
we
are
targeting
for
everybody,
a
living
wage
which
at
this
point,
I
believe,
is
16
10
an
hour
in
cook.
N
L
Yeah
great
question,
so
a
couple
of
these
positions
are
already
it's
kind
of
an
expansion
to
what
we
already
do.
So
we
already
have
a
director
of
workforce
training,
that's
ann.
We
have
a
couple
other
folks.
That
would
be
dedicating
their
time.
None
of
this
will
be
able
to
happen
without
a
significant
investment
like
arpa,
which
is
why
we're
proposing
it.
So
we
haven't
done
as
much
of
that
work,
but
we
are
committed
to
hiring
graduates
from
our
program
both
of
our
site.
D
G
Thank
you
aina
and
ann
for
your
work.
I
think
I
I
really
appreciate
that.
I
want
to
know
what
is
the
platform
you
guys
use
to
select
or
hire
people
into
your
program,
and
I'm
asking
that
because
I
know
it's
difficult
for
black
and
brown
people
to
get
access
to
those
platforms,
and
I
really
I
would
really
appreciate,
if
you
guys,
can
make
it
time
and
have
clear
target
for
people
like
me
to
get
access
to
those
platforms.
That's
one.
The
second,
a
question
of
is,
I
want
to
echo
mike
about
black
or
brown.
G
N
I
appreciate
that
I
can
speak
to
certainly,
I
think,
both
parts,
the
platform
that
we
use
for
applications
is,
it
starts
with
an
online
application.
We
use
a
basic
google
form,
so
it's
an
online
application.
It's
available
on
our
websites
and
we've
had
honestly
pretty
good
uptake
with
it.
I
will
say
that
for
a
lot
of
our
applicants,
they
are
getting
support
on
that
our
largest
recruiter
by
far
our
largest
feeder
is
the
city
of
evanston,
youth
and
young
adult
services,
so
audrey
thompson,
stacy,
mourinho,
nathan,
norman
lakeisha
gennaro,
all
of
them.
N
They
are
our
best
recruiters
for
our
program
and
they
are
certainly
providing
access
to
a
lot
of
the
folks
that
they
recruit
in
terms
of
computer
access,
internet
access,
but
we
haven't
seen
it.
I
mean
I've
been
doing
the
applications
for
about
three
years
now
and
we
haven't
seen
it
be
a
major
hurdle,
though
it
is
a
long
application.
I'll
say
that
and
that's
somewhat
intentional.
N
It's
a
20-week
program
and
I
really
want
people
to
succeed,
and
so
it
is
a
welcoming
environment
for
people
to
engage
with,
but
it
is
an
application
process
and
not
everybody
makes
it
through
it.
So
the
online
application
is
the
first
step
and
then
actually
our
project
manager,
desiree
hunter,
who
I
know
some
of
you
have
met
and
spoken
with,
is
incredibly
responsive.
N
N
You
can
do
the
application
at
three
o'clock
in
the
morning,
but
after
that
you
start
getting
real
human
contact,
but
I'd
certainly
be
interested
in
any
any
suggestions
you
have
about
how
we
can
meet
reach
more
people
because
for
every
applicant,
we're
probably
only
accepting
three
or
I'm
saying
one
in
three
applicants,
partly
because
of
them,
probably
because
of
us,
partly
because
sometimes
people
get
other
opportunities
in
terms
of
providing
a
more
reliable
pathway
for
black
and
brown
folks
into
the
unions.
I
hear
you
100.
N
N
Things
like
the
lead,
paint
replacement
or
not
lid
paint
the
lid
pipe
replacement.
They
provide
an
opportunity
to
work
in
depth
with
the
pipe
fitters,
with
the
laborers,
with
the
plumbers
and
in
particular,
to
work
through
employers
oftentimes.
We
talk
about
unions
and
we
talk
about
people
going
into
the
unions.
The
reality
is
is
that
we
want
people
to
get
hired
by
employers
who
will
sponsor
them
into
the
unions.
N
Otherwise,
individuals
have
to
be
self-sponsored,
which
is
really
expensive
and
deeply
difficult
unless
you're
already
really
rich
and
living
at
home
with
your
parents.
So
we
want
folks
to
get
corporate
sponsorships
in.
So
what
I'm
really
excited
about
with
all
of
these
opportunities
is
that
I
think
it's
a
big
win
not
just
for
us,
but
really
for
all
the
evidenced
employers.
N
So
I'm
thinking
about
cahill,
I'm
thinking
about
you,
know
jack
and
valenti,
and
I'm
thinking
about
all
these
kind
of
employers
that
we
know
are
already
on
the
same
page
and
looking
at
the
same
goals,
and
we
finally
have
enough
people
that
we
can
really
help
them,
move
these
targets
and
help
move
the
union.
So
the
scale
of
all
of
this,
I
think
we
will
see,
I
think,
we're
going
to
see
real
change,
which
is
a
long
time
coming
and
I'm
sure
it
will
never
be
nearly
enough
and
not
nearly
soon
enough.
I
K
It
differs
by
the
union,
but
but
generally
speaking,
the
journeyman,
which
is
like
the
kind
of
the
the
order,
the
full-fledged
union
member
rate,
depending
on
what
trade
it
is
is,
is
somewhere
between
40
and
50
dollars
per
hour
wage
plus,
you
know
really
excellent
health
and
retirement
benefits,
and
so
on.
So
it
it's
a
quite
productive
career.
I
mean
it's
hard
work
and
all
that,
but
it's
there
really
some
excellent
opportunities
in
terms
of
the
apprenticeship
period.
K
K
L
For
having
us,
I
would
just
say
that
you
know
I
don't
know
what
this
arpa
process
looks
like,
but
we'd
really
appreciate
the
committee's
support,
as
we
move
forward
with
this,
and
not
only
in
a
academic,
supportive
high-five
way,
but
in
a
real
like.
Let's
do
the
work
on
the
ground
way
we're
not
a
big
community,
and
we
think
there's
a
lot
of
potential
here.
So
thanks
for
having
us
yeah.
D
I'll
quickly
speak
to
that
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
what
our
process
is
going
to
be.
You
know,
there's
been
some
a
little
discussion
around
having
organizations
apply
to
different
to
the
respect
respective
committees,
economic
development
for
economic
development
proposals,
social
service
committee
for
social
service,
related
proposals
and
then
and.
D
F
D
For
one
think
we
should
continue
to
because,
as
far
as
I
know,
they're
really
the
only
edmonson
based
workforce
development
training
opportunity
for
residents
and
we
need
to
do
more
of
it.
We
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
and
so
I
think
we
should
continue
to
invest
in
people
that
we've
supported
in
the
past.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation
and
and
sharon
because
I
keep
forgetting
I
think
council
cummins
is
up
next
we're
going
to
scoot
him
up
right.
C
L
C
This
is
somewhat
shady
on
the
low
end
and
potentially
illegal
on
the
upper
end,
but
the
real.
The
real
issue
is
that
there's
holes
in
in
our
process
and-
and
hopefully
this
committee
can
give
some
recommendation
as
to
how
to
solve
it.
First
and
foremost,
there
is
nothing
in
our
city
code
that
requires
the
supplier.
Diversity
like
there
is
for
subcontracts
and
and
for
services
in
construction.
C
L
C
In
our
form,
contract
for
for
products
and
services
that
require
supplier
diversity,
and
so
we
would
definitely
want
to
try
and
tackle
both
of
those
things.
But
it's
a
matter
of
how
we
go
about
it.
I
know
the
city
code
needs
to
be
updated,
but
there
are
a
couple
of
avenues
that
I
can
suggest
that
maybe
this
committee
might
be
interested
in
discussing
you
know.
C
I
had
a
conversation
with
councilmember
braithwaite
a
few
weeks
ago.
I
don't
know
when
the
last
time
our
program
has
been
reviewed
or
if
it's
ever
been
reviewed,
but
it
might
be
worth
the
city's
time
to
have
it
reviewed
to
make
sure
that
we
are
actually
in
compliance
and
that
we
don't
end
up
at
some
point
in
federal
court
for
for
trying
to
actually
achieve
these
these
goals.
C
So
I
will
listen
for
any
questions
or
leave
it
to
the
committee
to
make
any
sort
of
recommendations,
but
I
will
say
that
the
city
code
definitely
needs
to
be
updated
to
include
something
for
supplier
diversity
in
in
title
1,
chapter
17,
which
is
where
we
actually
have
our
procurement
sort
of
process
laid
out
and
also
our
contract,
will
likely
need
to
reflect
that
as
well
once
that
code
is
updated.
But
how
we
go
about
doing.
That
is
what
this
committee
we
would
be.
Looking
for.
Recommendations
on.
D
And
council
comments
before
I
go
to
our
first
question:
to
be
clear:
the
direction
you're
looking
for
us
is
to
proceed.
What's
your
recommendation
that
you
attend
the
one
of
our
next
nweb
meetings
to
provide
a
report
to
have
some
of
the
guests
speak
about
this?
To
give
us
a
draft
of
you
know
an
updated
policy.
What
what's
the?
C
Forward,
my
recommendation
is
probably
to
get
somebody
from
the
outside
to
come
in
and
and
tell
this
committee.
Essentially
what
that
ordinance
needs
to
look
like
my
department
would
actually
draft
the
ordinance
and
then
this
committee
will
recommend
it
to
apw
apw
within
city
council,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
but
we,
you
know
that.
That's
not
something
that
I
believe
that
my
department
and
I'm
not
trying
to
shortchange
anybody
in
my
department.
I
just
don't
think
we
have
that
knowledge
base
in
the
department.
C
E
Okay,
sorry,
I
didn't
unblock
my
microphone.
Well,
thank
you
all
for
letting
me
speak
it
and
ask
some
questions.
My
name
is
michelle
cantor,
I'm
a
partner
at
mcdonnell
hopkins
law
firm
where
I'm
the
chair
of
the
government,
contracting
group
and
I've
been
doing
certifications,
mbewb,
veteran
and
all
federal
certifications
for
over
30
something
years
of
my
career,
and
I'm
also
the
outside
counsel,
to
federation
women
contractors
and
on
the
women's
business
development
board.
E
I'm
not
here
on
this
behalf,
I'm
here
because
I've
just
been
following
evanston
and
some
other
cities
and
what
they're
doing
I've
been
very
involved
with
the
wb
mbe
ordinances
in
chicago,
and
I
do
counsel
and
I'm
not
looking
for
legal
work
or
something.
But
you
know
that's
not
why
I'm
on
this
line,
but
you
counsel
people
in
guiding
them
and
what's
compliant,
not
compliant
and
understand
the
background
of
the
city's
mbewb
program
and
how
they
do
comply.
E
E
You
know
how
is
that
25
self
performance,
monitored
and
and
who
does
the
monitoring
and
how?
How
strong
is
the
monitoring?
Is
it
just
a
report,
or
is
it
someone
going
out
in
the
field
and
interviewing
the
the
the
the
the
various
even
the
various
subcontractors
and
their
employees
as
it
relates
to,
as
it
relates
to
not
having
a
supplier
diversity
program?
E
I
would
argue
that
you
do
have
a
supplier
diversity
program,
because
it
does
your
your
ordinance
does
talk
about
participation
and
credits
for
for
material
purchases,
and
it
is
a
60
require.
Sixty
percent
goal
could
be
met
for
the
value
of
the
materials
that
is
a
wbe,
mbe
or
ebe
that
that
provides
that
regularly
deals
in
that
product.
So
you
do
have
that
program.
E
E
There's
a
lot
of
women
in
minority
businesses
that
really
aren't
getting
the
fair
shake
they
should
be
getting
and
and
and
so
therefore,
I
did
have
a
couple
questions
that
related
to
compliance,
but
I'm
wondering
if
you
would
rather
be
just
talk
with
someone
to
move
to
you,
mr
cummings,
and
provide
you
separate
questions.
So
we
can
get
a
better
understanding
and
then,
ultimately,
you
can
probably
get
better
guidance
on
the
issue
as
well.
C
So
I
will
say
that
the
compliance
issue
might
not
be
able
to
be
answered
unless
dave
can
speak
to
that
tonight.
But
I
do
know
that
our
process
is
somewhat.
I
don't
want
to
say
disjointed.
There
is
the
purchasing
department,
which
actually
does
the
evaluation
of
the
bids
and
all
of
that
that
stuff
that
comes
in
beforehand
and
then
there's
also
the
public
works
and
engineering
department
that
might
monitor
after
after
the
fact.
E
Yeah
and
they're,
just
also,
I
think
part
of
it-
is
that
they're
not
being
a
disconnect
as
to
who
is
supposed
to
be
doing
what,
as
it
relates
to
compliance,
because
there
are
two
parts
to
your
ordinance.
One
is
the
bidding
process
and
you
know,
and
what?
What
goals
the
the
contractor
is
signing
an
affidavit
that
he
or
she
as
a
contractor
will
be
met.
And
then
during
performance.
E
How
are
those
goals
being
met
and
then,
after
is
like
what
actual
goals
were
met
by
looking
at
the
subcontractors,
payment,
applications
and
and
and
other
reporting
to
see
if
they
were,
it
was
actually
done
and
then
also
to
the
extent
that
contractors
are
getting
waivers
of
wbe
and
mbe
goals.
How
is
that
reported
to
the
council?
E
And
so
you
know
that
perhaps
your
goals
aren't
being
met
because
waivers
are
actually
given
and-
and
so
the
city
is
always
put
to
task
on
as
well
as
state
on
whether
they're
they're
waiving
any
goals
for
projects.
I
don't
know
if
larger
city,
I'm
sorry
smaller
cities
that
aren't
like
city
of
chicago,
if
you
are
actually
providing
waivers,
because
your
ordinance
allows
for
a
waiver.
It's
just
a
matter
of
how
that
those
waivers
are
reported
and
and
what
is
the?
I
E
E
I
No,
you
are
you,
you
and
anyone
else
that
has
an
interest
in
what
we're
doing
here
is
you're
absolutely
invited
the
the
purpose
of
asking
is
because
you've
hit
on
some
really
important
topics,
and
I'm
mindful
of
time
as
we
go
through
our
meeting,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
connect
you
with
sharon,
who
will
be
able
to
address
those
questions
that
you
have
in
greater
detail
versus
us
trying
to
to
cover
that,
along
with
the
agenda
that
we
have
in
front
of
us.
So
it
is
so
nice.
I
N
I
No,
I'm
just
thank
you
to
to
meet
your
to
meet
you
and
see
what
you
look
like
and
hopefully,
in
the
near
future
I
will
be
able
to
to
meet
in
person
but
yeah.
If
you
could
throw
your
contact
information
you
hit
on
some
things
that
I
would
love
to
respond
to,
but
but
time
is
definitely
doesn't
permit
and
then
to
nick.
I
If
I
could
just
just
make
another
quick
comment,
you
have
hit
on
nick
some
things
that
we've
touched
on
and
just
for
the
benefit
of
the
committee,
so
our
focus
is
always
evanston
based
businesses.
So
obviously
we
pay
attention
to
our
people
of
color,
our
women,
our
veterans,
but
as
it
stands
right
now,
that's
something
that
we're
working
towards
making
those
distinctions
within
our
local
group,
but
the
overall
focus
and
historically
like
if
you're
a
business
within
the
4x7
evanston's
boundaries.
I
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
providing
like
equal,
equal
opportunity
and-
and
once
we
start
to
once
we
achieve
that
goal,
then
obviously
we
get
to
drill
down
a
little
bit
deeper.
So
nick,
I
would
say
I
counted
four
different
categories
that
you
touched
on.
One
of
the
things
that
we've
talked
to
luke
and
sharon
about
is
self-certifying
as
a
city,
and
what
is
that
process?
We
had
somebody
on
our
committee.
His
name
was
josh
gustinson.
He
was
part
of
the.
I
can't
remember
the
exact
name
of.
I
Exactly
exactly
so,
maybe
nick
between
myself
counseling
burns
and
also
sharon,
we
can
have
a
quick
powwow.
I
think
you,
you
understand
exactly
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
with
luke
and
the
staff
present.
I
would
just
ask
you
to
do
the
work
and
then
outsources,
as
as
you
may,
as
you
see
fit
based
on
your
time
and
things
that
you
have
on
your
desk
is
a
priority
and
then
we
can
always
come
back.
If
we
need
a
presentation
from
someone
for
insight,
you
know
what
I
mean.
C
I
C
C
Process
is
that
it's
all
outsourced,
it's
the
same
organization,
that's
providing
the
underlying
certification
to
the
city
of
chicago
and
cook
county,
and
so
I
know
historically,
we
have
accepted
if
you
are
certified
by
chicago.
We
are
correct
and
I
think
that
we
probably
could
continue
to
do
that,
because
chicago
is
already
outsourcing
it
to
someone
else
anyway
makes.
A
Sense
and
nick
my
understanding
is
chicago.
I
dot.
The
other
entities
have
a
very
robust
certification
program
to
to
make
sure
about,
because
I
recently
had
a
question
about
the
different
categories
of
minorities,
and
we
simply
don't
have
that
because
we
accept
the
certifications
from
chicago
and
the
state
and
and
the
federal.
E
E
But
all
of
the
agencies
differ
in
some
of
their
rules
and
regulations,
and
one
of
the
big
differences
that
that
I,
that
will
be
obvious
to
you
when,
when
I
bring
it
up,
is
that
the
if
you're
a
dbe,
you
have
to
be
economically
socially
disadvantaged,
and
so
there
are
personal
net
worth
caps,
not
only
on
the
individual
owners,
but
also
on
the
gross
receipts
of
the
firm.
In
order
for
them
to
be
a
small
business.
E
E
With
respect
to
the
state
of
illinois,
the
state
of
illinois
has
no
personal
net
worth
caps
on
the
individual
owners,
but
they
don't
and
they
don't
have.
They
don't
use
the
sba
size
standards.
They
say
that
you
have
to
be
under
75
million
and
you
will
be
will
consider
you
a
small
business
where
I
dot
says,
or
not.
E
I
dot
the
db
regulations,
say:
22
million
and
you're
a
small
business
and
then
chicago
minority
supplier
council,
women's
business
development
center,
which
is
a
national
certification
that
you
take,
have
absolutely
no
size
caps
and
absolutely
no
personal
net
worth
caps
and
so
they're
so
they're.
It's
not
to
say
that
you're
doing
right
or
wrong
by
accepting
all
of
the
certifications.
E
But
that's
why
you're
getting
a
variety,
probably
of
subcontractors,
some
who
are
super
small
and
cannot
compete
with
the
larger
businesses,
the
larger
women
minority
businesses
that
actually
could
be
doing
300
million
a
year
and
all
you're
looking
for
is
minority
certification.
So
one
of
the
things
you
want
to
keep
in
mind
with
your
ordinance
is
this
ordinance
based
upon
economic
and
social
disadvantage
or
economic?
Or
is
it
just
based
upon
social
disadvantage.
C
That's
one
of
the
reasons
why
hearing
I
don't
know
the
last
time.
Evans
process
has
been
reviewed,
and
so
that's
that's
a
larger
issue,
but
the
the
issue
that
I
wanted
to
bring
to
the
community's
attention
was
the
fact
that
we
have
people
utilizing
mwe
subcontractors
as
pass-throughs
for
suppliers
in
an
effort
to
try
and
gain
credit
in
order
to
try
and
gain
the
systems.
B
Yes,
thanks
I'll
be
brief,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
you
know
I
don't.
I
can't
speak
to
the
ordinance
or
the
legality
or
or
that,
but
some
of
the
conversation
we've
been
having
for
a
while
on
the
committee
is
around
barriers
to
become
certified,
which,
which
has
been
expressed
by
a
number
of
people,
that
the
barriers
actually
become
certified
are
are
somewhat
onerous
and
could
be
reviewed.
B
Whatever
you
what,
however,
you
may
put
it
to
get
subcontractors
to
participate
in
the
local
hiring
concept.
So
we
do.
I
completely
agree
that
we
we
need
a
holistic
regenerative
visit
on
the
way
we
view
and
the
way
we
we
go
about
doing
this,
to
require
a
contractor
to
hire
locally
and
give
them
few
or
no
resources
to
do
so.
Sets
us
up
into
a
punitive
system
where
we're
cl,
where
they're
planning
on
fines
and
building
them
into
their
contracts
versus
planning
on
conformance
and
and
we've
shifted
that
greatly.
B
It's
not
necessarily
the
contractor's
priority
and
if
we
don't
make
it
our
priority
to
allow
to
help
them
succeed
by
visiting
our
laws,
our
requirements,
our
ordinances,
by
visiting
our
support
system,
our
networks
of
contractors,
our
workforce
development,
our
access
to
labor,
the
the
system
breaks
down,
so
we've
talked
a
bit
about
it
in
the
past
people
you
know
hear
me
talk
about
almost
every
meeting.
I
think
these
are
critical
steps.
A
H
B
B
We
need
to
discuss
that
if
we,
if
we
don't
build
the
workforce
development
part
of
it,
so
that
there
are
people
to
employ
that
are
employable,
it
is
very
difficult
for
contractors
to
employ
them.
So
we
we
have
to
fix
that
problem,
but
I
think
what
nick
was
talking
about
is
that's
a
bottom-up
approach.
I
think
what
nick
was
talking
about
is
a
is
a
top-down
approach,
looking
at
the
values
that
underscored
the
original
ordinances
and
if
we're
meeting
those
or
if
we
need
to
readdress
those
as
well.
B
I
I
think
it's
I
don't.
I
think
we
have
to
stop
separating
all
this
right.
It
has
to
be
holistic,
it
has
to
be
regenerative.
It
has
to
be
a
system
that
is
living
and
breathing
and
in
place
that
fosters
each
one
of
these
things.
We
can't
just
blame
contractors
for
not
fulfilling
their
obligations
if
we
have
no
way
for
them
to
do
it
right
now
they
they're
agreeing
to
do
it
and
they
have
to
make
the
effort
to
do
it,
but
we're
we.
B
L
D
In
that
discussion,
though,
that
short
discussion
we
we
brought
up,
you
know
local
certification
was
brought
up,
so
I
I
do
think
I'm
certainly
not
going
to
let
that
go.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
truly
understand
our
data
better
than
that
we're
getting
it
from
from
some
of
the
agencies
that
are
currently
certified
by
the
web
participants.
D
And
so,
as
you
do,
research
council
comments,
I
would
like
to
look
into
that
to
see
how
we
can
ensure
that
data
is
disaggregated,
so
we
have
a
better
sense
of
what's
happening
here
in
our
community.
Any
other
questions,
though,
before
we
provide
some
final
direction
for
council
companies,
any
other
questions
or
comments.
D
Okay,
so
council
commons,
let's
revisit
this,
so
you
said:
there's
there's
two
people
that
you
identify
that
could
help
us
with
this
moving
forward.
Would
you
is
your
recommendation
that
they
come
back
to
this
committee
and
have
a
discussion
with
us
get
some
direction
from
this
committee
work
on
something
with
you
bring
that
back
or
should
they
work,
for
they
is
your
recommendation
that
they
work
on
something
first
bring
the
draft
back
to
the
committee
for
us
to
review.
What
is
your
recommendation.
C
D
J
C
Ultimately,
what
may
be
more
productive
and
dave
can
probably
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong
is,
if
we
actually
have
these
resources
meet
with
city
staff,
about
our
our
process,
because
that's
that's.
One
of
the
things
that
I
took
from
michelle's
comments
is
is
the
actual
process
in
which
we
do
this
and
have
that
discussion
and
see.
C
If
there's
anything
in
terms
of
process
improvement,
we
can
do
without
having
to
actually
revise
the
code
and
then
maybe
come
back
to
the
committee
and
say
this
is
what
we
came
up
with
and
if,
if
we
do
need
to
revise
the
code,
then
have
it
go
through
the
process.
It
has
to
come
from
the
committee
and
move
its
way
up.
E
D
So,
thank
you
so
much
if
we
don't
have
any
other
questions.
This
is
so
the
next
steps
it
sounds
like
council,
cummins
is
gonna
work
on
scheduling,
a
meeting
between
city
staff
and
some
of
the
community
partners
or
folks
that
he's
identified
that
can
help
us
with
this
and
then
once
we
have
that
discussion,
we'll
bring
something
back
to
the
committee
to
review.
If
there's
a
ordinance
change,
that's
required.
D
D
And
you
know
to
mike's
point
I
I
do
think
you
know
I
saw
on
our
boards
committees
and
commissions.
We
have.
We
have
a
landing
page
on
our
website
that
that
kind
of
provides
guidelines
for
how
bcc
should
function
and
and
what
they
should
do
in
terms
of
annual
reporting-
and
I
remember
specifically
for
for
this
committee-
it
talked
about
having
nweb
program,
I
think,
is
the
word
that
was
used
and
so
to
mike's
point.
D
I
I
do
think
that
that
we
should
look
to
revisiting
how
we
achieve
our
goals
and-
and-
and
I
know,
council
member
braithway
will
can
add
that
on
the
future
agenda.
So
we
can
talk
about
how
to
how
to
begin
that
work.
Does
anybody
have
any
other
comments
now
that
they've
heard
kind
of
the
recommendation
from
council,
cummings
and
next
steps?
Are
we
in
agreement
that
the
recommendation
is
supported
by
this
committee,
or
would
we
like
to
go
in
another
direction?
How
how
does
it
committee
feel?
F
A
Yes,
that's
going
to
be
me
just
to
give
a
brief,
50
000
foot
overview
about
what
this
is.
Aina
was
good
enough
to
mention
this
service
line
act.
It's
it's.
The
illinois
lead
service
line
replacement
program,
and
I
just
want
to
tell
the
committee
why
it's
being
done
and
then
tell
them
our
part
and
basically,
what's
going
to
happen
over
the
next
few
months
to
prepare
the
workforce
quickly
to
devise
a
a
pipeline
to
have
additional
plumbers
as
well
as
a
pipe
fitter.
A
So
I
don't
know
how
familiar
you
are
with
the
the
overview
of
the
program
that
the
state
has
this
initiative
for,
but
millions
of
homes
across
and
municipalities
across
the
country
have
these
lead
toxic
metal
lines
that
need
to
be
replaced.
Basically,
so
it's
a
state
law
that
passes
here
and
requires
municipalities
to
develop
plan
to
replace
all
of
the
service
lead
lines
starting
2024
dave.
A
You
can
correct
me
if
I'm,
if
I'm
incorrect
in
in
any
of
the
dates
and
the
city
will
begin
a
pilot
project
next
year,
that
will
consist
of
implementation
of
the
plan.
So
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
the
state
has
an
initiative
for
minority
participation.
That's
about
11
is
my
understanding
for
minority
companies,
eight
percent
for
women
and
then
two
percent
for
disadvantaged
businesses
and
from
workforce
perspective,
we're
looking
for
plumbers,
pipefitters
that
are
needed
to
to
train
for
the
city
of
evanston's
renovation.
A
So
I
have
been
in
contact
with
the
pipefitters
union.
I
understand
they'll
be
accepting
applications
beginning
in
october.
My
contact
says
it's
it's
october,
it'll
be
the
entire
entire
month
and
and
then
beyond,
because
they
anticipate
a
swell
of
new
apprentices
for
this
program.
In
particular,
the
local
plumbers
union
will
begin
accepting
applications.
A
So
that's
that's
pretty
much
it.
The
project
is,
is
basically
a
very
long-term
project.
I
mean
we're
talking
years
and
over
multiple
counties
and
and
townships,
and
so
we're
going
to
work
closely
with
erw,
which
is
evanston
rebuilding
warehouse
to
focus
on
the
training
for
evanston
residents
to
get
get
into
the
union.
They
can
provide
the
wrap
around
services
that
that
are
needed
and,
and
also
just
train
some
of
the
laborers
that
are
here
locally.
A
So
they
have
some
of
the
skill
sets
and
we
can
get
on
to
to
these
projects
and
enhance
the
the
workforce
and
and
bring
revenue
back
to
the
city
where
it
should
be
so
the
committee
will
be
updated
on
the
progress.
I
think
that's
that's
about
it.
Any
information
that
I
get.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
include
that
on
the
mweb
page
and
the
progress
once
we
have
more
details,
so
that's
what
I
have
for
for
that.
M
D
M
M
I
would
just
like
to
add
that,
in
addition
to
plumbers
and
bike
fitters,
when
we
do
the
work
inside
of
a
home,
a
lot
of
people's
water
meter
is
in
a
location
that
may
require
drywall
to
be
removed
and
replaced
and
other
inside
wall
petitions,
and
things
like
that.
So
there,
in
my
opinion,
will
be
a
need
for
carpenters
as
well
to
repair
the
interior
of
homes
after
the
meters
have
been
replaced,
or
you
know,
the
water
service
has
been
replaced.
So
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
there
as
well.
F
D
G
L
D
B
D
That
I
came
up
with
that.
Hopefully
we
can
get
staff
to
support
it
if
it
makes
sense,
but
basically,
after
talking
to
staff,
they
said
if
we
were
to
create
our
own
kind
of
local
apprenticeship
program
through
our
water
department
that
we
could
potentially
train
people
to
replace
the
lead
service
line
in
between
the
the
service
valve
and
and
and
the
in
the
water
main.
So
the
city,
the
public
portion
of
the
the
water
service
line.
They
said
we
wouldn't
we
don't
have
the
necessary.
D
I
did
some
calculations
based
on
some
numbers
we
got
from
from
from
director
stone
back
at
our
last
meeting,
but
we're
talking
about
88
million
dollars
that
we
could
direct.
We
we
could
potentially
direct
towards
evanston
residents
now.
I
think
one
of
the
challenges
is
typically
when
this
work
is
is
bitted
out.
It's
it's
bitted
out
all
together.
I
would
imagine
so
you
know
water,
water
main
and
correct
me
wrong,
direct
stone
back.
You
know
the
water
may
work.
The
water
service
line
replacement,
I
would
imagine,
is
it's
all
bid
out
together.
D
A
portion
of
that
work,
for
you,
know
a
local
work
for
for
for
local
residents
to
to
do.
Might
there
might
be
some
complications
in
that,
but
I
was
asked
to
during
this
meeting
to
provide
direction
to
staff
to
look
into
it,
because
my
concern
is
that
the
unions
are
gonna,
have
people
contacting
them
from
all
over
and
they
will
accept
some
evidence
to
residents,
I'm
sure,
but
we
can't
guarantee
that
everyone
and
everything
is
interested
in
participating
in
our
lead.
Pipe
replacement
here
in
evanston
will
be
trained.
D
It's
not
our
training
program,
it's
not
for
us
to
decide
who
is
accepted
into
the
programs
and
and
when
they're
accepted,
and
meanwhile
this
work
will
continue.
And
so
what
we
do
know,
though,
is
is
that
there
is
a
a
portion
of
this
work
that
we
have
that
city
staff
is
equipped
to
train
people
to
do
it
right
now.
We
do
know
back
of
the
napkin,
that's
anywhere
between
40
to
80
million
dollars
and
and
we'll
figure
out
how
much
of
that
will
go
to
labor
that
we
could.
D
You
know,
pump
directly
into
our
evanston
economy
through
hiring
evanston
residents,
and
I
think
it
is
at
the
bare
minimum,
just
at
least
worth
directing
staff
to
do
some
research
and
see
what
we
would
need
to
to
do
to
come
up
with
that
type
of
apprenticeship
program.
Director
stone
back
to
your
hands
up.
M
M
M
D
So
I
think
my
thing
is
a
plumber
or
a
city
staff,
and
so
what
what
I'm
proposing
is
that
city
staff
would
be
to
would
do
that
work
that
we
would
be
training
people.
We
will
be
expanding
our
apprenticeship
program
to
include
a
division
of
whatever
one
we're
going
to
call
it
that
is
specifically
assigned
to
replace
the
water
service
line
between
the
shutoff
valve
and
in
the
water
media.
M
Right
when
we
go
to
hire
people,
there
is
no
requirement
that
you
have
to
be
an
evanston
resident.
We
we
hire
the
most
qualified
person
to
do
it.
Now
we
take
in
apprentices
and
as
an
apprentice,
we
can
require
that
they
be
an
evanston
resident
and
we
have
found
that
a
lot
of
our
permanent
positions
are
filled
by
people
that
were
apprentices.
M
M
We
could
you
know,
given
the
budget,
we
could
add
three
more
people
and
the
equipment
and
materials
needed
to
have
a
another
crew
that
we
that
would
replace,
lead
service
lines
where
this
is
something
that
we're
concerned
about,
because
the
law
also
requires
that
if
there's
a
leak
develops
in
the
lead
service
line,
you
must
replace
the
entire
line.
Well,
that's
going
to
require
the
work
between
the
main
and
the
valve
and
we're
concerned
that
we
won't
have
enough
employees
on
staff
to
be
able
to
do
that
unless
we
do
expand.
D
Any
other
questions
before
I
move
on
the
other
questions.
So
again
I
I
can't
let
this
go.
I'm
gonna
have
to
because
I
was
asked
by
the
city
manager
to
do
it
here.
I'm
gonna
have
to
direct
staff
to
please
look
into
this.
I
understand
it's.
It's
it's
it's.
If
it's
the
deterrent,
deterring
from
the
way,
we
typically
do
things,
but
I
think
there's
something
here
and
if
it
requires
additional
equipment,
additional
staff,
additional
training.
D
We
have
some
state
money
director
stone
back
that
you
talked
about
that
we
may
be
eligible
for
you
know
eventually
this
this
you
know
federal
bill
will
pass
and
we
should
get
money
there,
but
but
you
know,
in
addition,
so
I
would
like
to
see
how
we
can
guarantee
a
certain
amount
of
evidence
to
residents
get
this
work,
and
I
don't
I'm
not
convinced
that
it's
through
the
unions,
I
think
they
play
an
important
part.
I
think
rebuilding
warehouse.
J
D
An
important
part,
and-
and
we
certainly
should
continue
to
have
those
discussions
and
and
and
have
them
trained
as
many
evanston
residents
as
possible,
but
if
I'm
using
history
to
inform
how
I
feel
about
this
you've
just
never
been
able
to
to
you
know,
say
for
sure:
we've
never
been
able
to
guarantee
a
certain
amount
of
evidence
and
residents
are
trained
through
local
unions.
It's
just
not
the
way
it
works,
and
I
you
know,
sharing
your
conversations
with
the
union.
D
A
D
L
D
Employment
for
the
next
33
years,
replacing
water
service
lines
in
the
city
of
evanston.
Where
you
live,
I
could
have
a
line
full
of
people
yesterday,
and
so
my
question
is:
if
I
bring
the
unions
a
hundred
people
that
can
that
that
are
eligible,
because
all
the
things
that
I
I've
heard
you
say
before
and
I
understand.
H
A
Right
right,
yeah
that
that
I
can't
I
I
cannot
speak
to.
We
have
to
have
a
c-level
executive
here
from
from
one
of
the
unions,
because
each
union
is
different
on
how
you
get
in
so
we're
talking
about
the
two
and
now
the
three
carpenters
bombers,
pipefitters
and
laborers.
Laborers
is
the
shortest
training
and
you're
also
paid
when,
when
you're
an
apprentice
as
well.
So
it
depends
on
which
one
but.
D
Thank
you
for
that.
I
see
you're
well
michael
next,
but
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
We
have
a
local
apprenticeship
program
here.
People
are
also
provided,
I
think,
see
the
15
16
or
20
an
hour.
I
can't
recall
I
had
a
meeting
with
with
staff
from
the
water
department
about
it,
and-
and
I
also
want
to
make
make
it
clear
that
they
are
a
part
of
the
union.
Collective
bargaining
is
still
involved.
It's
just
a
different
union.
D
B
B
The
rebuilders
warehouse
also
offers
the
other
training
that
they
need.
Math,
osha,
first
aid,
all
those
other
things.
If
we
combine
these
things
and
just
say,
okay,
we're
going
to
prepare
these
hundred
people
right
every
year,
we're
going
to
have
another
crop
of
people
who
we've
apprenticed
and
trained
to
be
employable
by
the
union.
Right
because
you
can't
an
apprentice
in
the
union
is
not
a
raw
employee,
they're
they're,
they
have
training,
they
have
education,
they
have
certain
criteria
that
they
must
meet,
that
just
even
apply.
B
We
might
be
able
to
do
the
work,
keep
the
money
in
evanston,
employ
people,
train
them
and
give
them
the
step
into
the
union
where
they
can
go
on
to
employment
throughout
the
region.
Right
not
not
just
not
just
be
supported
by
evanston's
taxes
as
a
regenerative
process,
and
maybe
something
we
talked
through
on
that.
But
I
know
people
have
very
good
friend
who
went
through
the
apprenticeship
program
in
the
water
department
and
he's
gone
on
to
a
very
successful
career
there.
B
I
can
speak
highly
of
that
experience
and
of
his
experience,
and
I
I
think,
maybe
that
this
is
an
opportunity.
You've
touched
on
councilman
that
this
could
be
a
spark
to
bring
people
to
full-time
employment,
to
union
employment,
to
hundred
thousand
dollar-a-year
jobs
that
the
city
isn't
permanently
employing,
but
is
is
temporarily
why
we
have
this
opportunity,
training
and
preparing
to
be
into
that
in
in
that
trade.
D
H
Sorry,
no,
I
just
wanted
to
piggyback
off
what
you
were
saying
bobby,
that
I
agree
100,
that
you
know
the
union
way
is
definitely
not
the
best
way
to
go,
although
you
know
they're
there,
but
in
general
you
know
the
barriers
that
exist
historically,
with
heat
with
unions.
It's
almost
as
if
to
me
it
you
know
it
needs
to
be.
You
know,
re-evaluated
whatever
berries
are
there
and
I
missed
part
of
what
you
were
saying.
H
I
know
you
were
talking
about
a
program
that
you
were
doing,
but
that
was
like
on
my
mind,
is
why
there's
something
that
needs
to
shift
or
change
when
it
comes
to
the
unions
and
the
barriers
that
exist,
especially
for
black
people
get
in
there.
So
just
supporting
what
you
were
just
saying
in
general.
D
Let's
so
just
to
close
this
out
again,
we
because
we've
said
some
things
that
might
have
pulled
over
people's
head,
because
I
have
a
little
bit
more
background
on
this.
We
currently
have
a
local
apprenticeship
program,
a
lot
smaller,
obviously
than
the
one
that
we
need
to
create
to
to
to
you
know,
provide
the
level
of
staff
to
or
workers
to
do
this
work,
but
we
have
a
model
that
exists
today
and
I
think
what
gretchen
stoneback
was
was
saying.
L
D
To
fund
the
expansion
of
a
department
that
could
do
this
work,
the
equipment
that
would
be
needed,
the
staff
that
with
the
workforce
that
would
be
needed-
and
so
what
I'm
saying
is-
is
that
I'm
willing
to
go
either
direction.
As
long
as
I
can
guarantee
100
people
on
our
timeline
right
are
hired
and
ready
to
work
in
evanston
to
do
the
work
that
we
know
is
not
going
to
be
temporary
right,
we're
talking
about
33
years.
We
have
to
replace
all
of
our
land
water
service
line
in
evanston,
so
it's
33-year
work.
D
We
can
do
the
calculation
and
figure
out
how
many
people
will
be
involved
in
that
work
in
evanston,
but
I
would
imagine
it's
a
significant
amount
and
the
question
is:
how
can
we
ensure
that
a
significant
portion
of
the
people
who
are
excavating
our
parkways
right
outside
of
your
home
is
an
evidence
in
person?
That's
that's
the
question
that
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
answer,
and-
and
I
don't
want
to-
I
don't
want
it
to
be
simple.
M
Say
that
I'll
I'll
craft
the
memo
and
send
it
off
to
the
city
manager.
I
can
copy
the
committee
on
what
it
is,
but
it
would
be
a
plan
to
to
bring
in
more
apprentices
and
and
then
eventually
expand
the
size
of
the
distribution
crew,
with
the
experience
that
we
have
that
most
apprentices
get
hired
into
a
full-time
position
anyway.
M
M
F
D
L
D
Were
going
to
do
this,
we
need
this
much
more
space
right
like
challenge
this
committee
and
also
the
council
to
think
big,
and
if
we
can't
do
it,
we
can't
do
it.
But
if
we
don't
have
the
numbers
in
front
of
us
and
how
to
make
it
possible
in
front
of
us,
then
we're
never
going
to
do
things
different
than
we've.
We've
done
before,
and
and
and
and.
D
These
these
important
advancements
in
workforce
development,
so
I
I
I
I
don't
want
you
to
give
us
something:
that's
pie
in
the
sky.
Let
us
know
like
look
if,
if
we
were
to
do
this
crazy
thing,
this
is
what
we
would
need
and
then
it's
up
to
the
this
committee
and
council
to
figure
out
if
it's
something
that's
realistic,
we're
going
to
council
member
and
then
also
sharon
to
your
point,
if
you
can,
you
know
invite,
I
think
you
recommended
some
folks
out
from
the
union
to
to
talk
to
this
question.
I
What
you've
done
with
our
apprentice
program
is
is
more
than
we
can
address
in
one
meeting,
but
can
you
just
give
us
like
60
seconds
before
you
close
out
dave
how
many
people
have
gone
through
the
program,
the
time
it
takes
to
get
someone
up
to
speed
to
where
they
can
work
full-time?
Just
it's
a
follow-up
to
what
I
hear
councilmember
burns
saying
and
then
we'll
we'll
invite
you
back
at
a
later
date
to
give
us
a
more
detailed
report.
I
M
Where
you
know
we
got
enough
work
for
everybody
and
as
many
employees
hired
as
we
can,
we
can
handle
but
yeah
I
can.
I
can
start
putting
a
memo
together.
It
takes
a
three-man
crew.
It
takes
pieces
of
vehicle
to
do
the
work.
Our
challenge
will
be
is
that
I
don't
know
that
we're
not
as
as
our
crew
we're
allowed
to
do
the
work
out
in
our
public
right
of
way.
M
To
do
the
work
on
the
homeowner's
side
right
and
we're
also
not
allowed
to
create
partial
lead
service
lines
right
at
some
point,
we
have
to
work
with
the
you
know.
Maybe
we
can
have
the
plumber
go
from
the
house
to
the
parkway.
Then
we
do
parkway
out
to
the
water
main
on
at
these
locations
so
I'll
be.
I
I'm
watching
your
hair,
I'm
watching
your
hair
turn
great
dave,
but
if
there
was
a
person
out
there
that
could
make
it
happen
to
be
able
to
tell
that
romantic
story,
because
we're
not
talking
about
training
them
to
be
a
part
of
a
staff.
But
it's
reason
reasonably
it's
to
give
them
the
skills
necessary
to
be
able
to
do
this
very
specific
work
that
they'll
be
able
to
use
for
quite
some
time
so
I'll
leave
it
right
there.
I
think
we've
we've
shared
enough!
F
A
That's
that's!
That's
going
to
be
me,
councilmember
burns!
Thank
you
just
for
the
sake
of
time,
very
briefly,
I'll
go
over
three
points.
The
report
is
in
your
packet.
As
of
august,
we
have
participation
that
stands
at
forty
percent,
with
over
four
million
dollars
in
minority
subcontractors
contracting
out
over
10.8
million
dollars.
So
contracts
were
waived
due
to
preclusion
of
subcontracting
opportunities
at
2.9
million.
The
accounting
manager
and
myself
are
working
on
returning
the
roughly
forty
six
thousand
dollars.
That's
missing
from
the
lep
penalty.
A
A
A
They
had
some
issues
on
the.
What
is
it
main
street
corridor
improvement
renovation
they've
been
trying
to
talk
with
me
about
doing
something,
but
they
have
no
documentation
or
proof
that
they
had
to
replace
an
lep
person,
because
once
one
doesn't
work
out,
can't
just
stop
you
need
to
employ
somebody
else.
I
don't
have
proof
of
that.
The
contractor
can't
provide
it
to
me,
so
this
partial
penalty
will
will
stand
until
you
can
prove
that
you've
done
due
diligence
to
make
an
effort
to
replace
the
person
and
I'm
confident
they
they.
A
D
A
And
council
member
burns
just
in
the
interest
of
time,
we
don't
want
to
take
too
much
because
we
are
we're
at
the
two
hour
mark
mike
mclean
will
have
an
introduction
on
his
retail
expansion
program.
We'd
like
to
get
some
notes
that
he
put
together,
sent
out
to
the
committee
for
review,
we're
going
to
discuss
it
in
november
at
our
next
committee
meeting.
A
D
A
A
It
is
the
third
wednesday
of
each
month.
I
I
messed
up
when
I
put
out
the
agenda
for
the
year,
because
this
is
a
holiday,
so
it
was
supposed
to
be
on
the
22nd
for
this
year.
But
let
me
just
I
can
tell
you
real,
quick.
The
next
one
should
be
the
17th.
I
was
correct
november
17th,
it's
a
a
week
before
the
holiday.