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Comment
from
the
from
the
public
now
a
couple
of
items
relating
to
that
one,
if
you're
an
individual
we're
going
to,
because
there's
quite
a
few
people
here
today
we're
going
to
limit
a
limit
public
comment
to
two
minutes,
all
right
to
two
minutes:
each.
Unless
you
happen
to
represent
a
group
of
a
group
or
organization,
in
which
case
we
will
allow
ten
minutes.
A
There
is
a
a
PowerPoint
that
is
planned,
so
we
will
allow
that
to
go
for
for
ten
minutes
and
we
will
open
up
the
questioning
with
the
with
the
with
the
gentleman
asking
for
the
continuance.
So
the
last
point
is
is,
if
you
wish
to
testify
today,
can
you
please
sign
the
sign-in
sheet
that
is
outside
the
outside
the
office
outside
the
chambers?
We
will
be
taking
testimony
in
the
order
of
signing.
A
F
Evening,
commissioners
and
the
public
we
left
off
on
March
14th
talking
about
the
proposed
plan
development
at
1727,
Oak,
Avenue
I'll,
just
do
a
brief
overview
of
the
updates
that
Tremmel
crow
will
get
into
detail
about
tonight
updates,
provided
there
are
some
new
architectural
details.
As
the
proposal
has
been
more
refined.
There
is
a
tree
removal
plan
that
shows
an
inventory
of
all
trees
that
will
be
removed
on
the
property.
A
number
of
those
trees
will
be
replaced.
F
G
Thank
you,
members
of
the
plan
commission.
Mr.
chairman
members
of
the
staff
and
public,
my
name
is
rich
clowder
and
with
the
law
firm
of
DLA
Piper
I'm
standing
in
for
my
colleague,
Katie
Genki
Dale,
who
appeared
before
you
on
March
14th
I,
think
we're
gonna
just
jump
right
in.
Let
me
just
introduce
our
team
here:
Gianni
Carlson
and
Grady
Hamilton.
Our
principles
with
Trammell
crow
they're,
both
represented
here
tonight
and
Johnny,
will
speak
to
you
in
a
moment
and
begin.
The
presentation.
Also
Leah
Riley,
is
an
accessible
accessibility
consultant.
G
We
brought
onboard
she's
here
tonight
and
will
speak
very
briefly
to
you
about
some
of
the
issues
that
were
raised
at
the
last
meeting.
Louie
abouna
from
KL
away
is
our
traffic
consultant.
He
will
unpack
some
of
the
traffic
updates
that
were
just
provided
by
staff
and
Aaron
Rosyth
with
the
ESG
architects
from
Minneapolis,
we'll
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
the
plan
and
the
elevations
and
Jared
Kenyon
and
others
from
Kimberly
horn
are
also
here.
G
Should
there
be
any
questions
about
civil
engineering
I
want
you
to
know
that
since
March
14th,
there
has
been
another
community
meeting
on
this
project
hosted
by
Alderman
Braithwaite.
Also,
we
have
received
much
correspondence
and
informal
informal
feedback
from
members
of
the
public
that
has
been
passed
along
directly
to
us
by
them
and
also
through
staff.
So
what
we're
gonna
try
to
do
during
the
course
of
our
presentation
is
to
the
extent
possible
answer
all
of
those
concerns,
or
at
least
respond
to
them.
G
Obviously,
if
there
are
questions
along
the
way,
please
interrupt
and
interject
and
ask
us
to
further
unpack
them,
but
we
we've
really
tried
to
focus
on
new
information
and
modifications
that
have
been
made,
largely
in
response
to
feedback
that
we
received
from
you
and
from
members
of
the
public.
So
we
won't
go
through
the
longer
presentation
that
we
made
before,
but
we
will
try
to
highlight
some
of
the
changes
have
been
made
along
the
way
and
also
speak
to
some
of
the
concerns
that
have
been
expressed.
H
Thank
you
rich
good
evening,
thanks
for
your
time
again,
my
name
is
Johnny
Carlson
with
Trammell
crow
company
and
I'm
joined
by
Mary
Lucas
and
Grady
Hamilton
on
behalf
of
Trammell
crow
I'm,
just
gonna
walk
through
a
few
of
the
items
that
have
come
up
in
in
the
past
conversations
at
some
of
the
community
meetings
that
rich
mentioned
previously,
but
just
to
set
everyone's
reference
on
the
site.
This
is
the
northeast
corner
of
church
and
oak.
H
A
lot
of
our
meetings,
the
term
age-restricted
utilized
with
the
term
active
adult,
has
come
into
question
with
how
we're
marketing
this,
how
we're
coining
this
the
term
active
adult,
was
used
as
just
to
describe
a
use
that
is
being
developed
around
the
country.
So
moving
forward,
we're
just
gonna
call
this
age,
restricted,
55-plus
housing
just
to
clarify
all
the
same
guidelines
are
the
exact
same
of
what
we've
relayed
in
the
previous
presentations
just
to
kind
of
walk
you
through
how
we've
summarized
this.
This
is
a
Fair
Housing
Act
of
1988.
H
It
was
amended
after
by
the
older
persons
Act
of
1995
that
allows
you
to
set
an
age
limit
of
55
plus
to
market
it
to
55
plus.
It
also
allows
you
to
require
every
unit
within
the
building
to
be
required
by
someone
55
plus.
There
is
regulations
that
allow,
if
you
desire
to
have
20%
be
lower.
We
are
moving
forward
with
100%
of
the
unit's
to
have
a
leasehold
interest
with
one
at
least
one
person
being
55
plus
in
the
building.
So
a
lot
of
questioning
of
could
someone
live?
H
There
be
a
student
without
someone
55
plus,
if
they're
55
and
their
student
we're
not
going
to
regulate
him,
we're
going
to
go
by
the
law
of
the
fair
housing
that
governs
that
just
a
kind
of
also
portray
the
rules
and
restrictions
are
subject
to
and
comply
with
all
applicable
laws.
We're
not
going
above
and
beyond
any
law,
that's
set,
and
then
second
there's
also
a
obligation
to
allow
for
a
minimum
age
of
a
second
occupant
within
a
unit.
So,
in
the
event
that's
up
to
the
landlord's
discretion.
H
It's
haven't
heavily
used
at
4550
and
in
these
types
developments,
but
that
is
subject
change
with
ownership
as
thing
progressed,
but
every
unit
will
be
occupied
by
someone
55
plus
jumping
onto
the
next
topic.
We've
also
heard
that
parking
is
a
major
concern.
Will
our
residents
park
on
the
street
limiting
parking
for
other
neighboring
properties?
Those
are
public
parking
stalls,
as
you
guys
are
all
aware
and
staff
has
outlined
on
Oak.
H
So
our
development
is
not
only
adding
parking
stalls
to
what's
currently
there,
but
we're
also
eliminating
curb
cuts
to
do
so
moving
as
a
fire
hydrant
to
do
so
at
an
expense
of
our
cost
to
hopefully
benefit
the
community.
That's
utilizing
those
public
stalls.
The
reason
why
I
want
to
point
out
on
this
slide
is:
we
are
a
hundred
percent
code
compliant
with
the
use.
We
are
not
asking
for
a
site
development
allowance.
This
study
basically
shows-
or
this
analysis
basically
shows
169
units.
We
are
providing
139
parking
stalls.
H
H
We
need
122
we're
providing
17
stalls
above
that
ite
standards
that
are
used
throughout
the
number
of
municipalities
require
0.59
or
the
standard
is
0.5
nine
stalls
per
unit
and
we're
providing
39
stalls
above
and
beyond
that
for
senior
housing
and
then
the
85th
percentile
to
go
the
conservative
route,
we're
providing
27
horse
stalls
if
you
average
all
those
out
under
all
the
circumstances,
we
are
code
compliant
and
are
dressing
all
the
parking.
This
is
a
slide
that
I'm
gonna
invite
someone
else
up.
H
We
as
Trammell
crow
in
most,
if
not
all,
of
our
housing
projects
throughout
the
country,
Briona
ad,
a
consultant
to
design
the
building.
Look
at
all
the
means
and
methods
look
forward
at
lessons
learned
on
past
projects,
someone
invited
up
Leah
with
Burnham,
who
is
our
ad,
a
accessibility
consultant
prior
to
a
lot
of
the
concerns
from
neighbors.
That
we've
heard
that
all
the
public
comment
we
had
her
on
her
staff.
We've
had
her
on
her
staff
on
a
number
of
other
projects
throughout
the
middle,
so
I'm
invite
her
up.
H
She'll,
walk
you
through
a
number
of
items
that
were
actually
going
above
and
beyond
code
to
satisfy
a
lot
of
the
concerns,
the
neighbors
of
we're.
Actually,
we
view
ourselves
as
a
similar
demographic
they'll
be
living
here.
We
are
going
to
protect
our
buildings
from
a
number
of
learning
cases
in
the
past
and
all
about
you
up
now
and
I'll
come
back
to
the
podium.
I
Good
evening
my
name
is
Leah
Riley,
as
you
noted
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
a
couple
of
the
features
both
that
they're
doing
on
the
site,
as
well
as
within
the
building
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
enhanced
accessibility
with
a
parking
accessible
route
and
the
traffic
calming
design,
they're
increasing
the
number
of
public
parking
spaces
and
adding
to
accessible
public
parking
spaces
that
are
available
for
anybody
to
use
they're.
Adding
a
complaint
curb
ramps
at
all
the
driveways
that
are
within
their
their
scope
of
work
or
property.
I
There's
one
between
the
proposed
residential
and
the
South
property
and
then
they're,
adding
a
compliant
curb
ramp
on
the
east
side
of
Oak,
Street,
they're,
also
restriping,
and
shortening
the
length
of
the
crosswalk
and
adding
appropriate
signage
to
warn
people
that
people
may
be
crossing
the
interior
entrance
accessible
route
and
amenities.
They
are
adding
a
power-operated
door
opener
at
the
main
entrance,
which
is
not
required
by
any
accessibility
codes.
I
All
elevators
are
sized
to
accommodate
a
stretcher
indoor,
accessible
bike
parking
locations
that
also
include
a
larger,
clear
floor
space
to
allow
someone
to
transfer
to
a
bike
and
utilize
whatever
type
of
bicycle.
They
would
have
extra
wide
corridors
and
they're
designed
for
future
installation
of
handrails
if
that's
requested
by
a
tenant
interior
to
building
move-in
loading
areas.
So
someone
can
be
within
the
building
to
do
that.
I
A
non
sloped,
rooftop
pool
Terrace
they're,
building
off
a
terrace
that
will
be
completely
non
sloped
and
then
a
load
up
pool
with
a
wheelchair
leap,
with
a
wheelchair,
lift
it
within
the
dwelling
units,
they're
doing
swinging
patio
doors
at
balconies
with
low
thresholds
and
that's
for
all
dwelling
units.
That's
not
required
for
all
per
the
fair
housing.
Amendments
Act,
operable
controls
of
exterior
windows
are
going
to
be
at
readily
reachable
Heights
for
all
the
dwelling
units.
J
Good
evening
my
name
is
lui
abouna
I'm,
a
principal
Kayla
way,
the
traffic
consulting
firm
that
prepared
the
traffic
study
for
the
proposed
project,
so
I'm
gonna
briefly
address
some
of
the
issues
that
was
raised
at
the
last
public
hearing.
There
was
a
concern
about
the
the
existing
crosswalk
at
Oak
Avenue.
That
currently
is
right
here.
J
This
is
where
the
alley
is
the
one-way
alley.
This
is
going
to
be
the
entrance
to
our
project.
This
is
the
end
to
the
parking
garage,
and
this
is
the
out
to
the
parking
garage.
This
is
another
end
and
out
to
cierra
quarter
condominiums,
so
the
crosswalk
currently
is
is
a
high
visibility
ladder
style
crosswalk.
The
width
of
the
crossing
is
about
forty
eight
and
a
half
feet.
So
it's
a
rather
wide
crossing
of
the
of
the
street.
J
There's
only
one
sign
on
each
side
of
the
crosswalk
right
at
the
crosswalk
alerting
drivers
of
the
existence
of
D
of
the
crosswalk.
So
you
know
we
did
when
we
did
our
count.
There
was
a
considerable
number
of
people
that
use
the
crosswalk,
but
we
heard
the
concerns
about
the
safety
of
pedestrians
and
what
we
have
come
up
is
an
enhanced
crosswalk
that
helps
improve
the
safety
of
the
pedestrians
as
they
cross.
One
of
the
first
things
that
we
did
is
limit
the
width
of
the
crosswalk
from
48
feet
down
to
32
feet.
J
That's
a
reduction
of
16
feet
of
pavement
that
the
pedestrian
will
have
to
cross.
We
bike.
You
know
we
basically
created
curb
extensions
on
both
sides,
and
you
know,
creating
those
curb
extensions
and
and
reducing
the
width
of
the
crosswalk
has
proven
on
other
projects
to
improve
the
safety
and
and
provide
an
environment
for
pedestrians
what
they
feel
safer,
because
they're
able
to
cross
the
street
much
quicker.
J
In
addition,
we
have
a
and
added
signage
package
in
terms
of
alerting
drivers
of
the
existence
of
this
crosswalk,
not
only
at
the
crosswalk
itself,
but
advance
warnings,
so
taller
drivers
coming
from
the
north.
There
is
a
crosswalk
ahead
and
then
drivers
from
the
South,
obviously
as
they
come
in
off
the
signal
that
there
is
a
crosswalk
ahead,
as
well
as
adding
the
state
law
crosswalks.
This
is
a
common
sign
across
Evanston,
due
to
a
lot
of
drivers
that
that
they're
required
by
state
law
to
stop
for
pedestrians
in
the
in
the
crosswalk.
J
So
we
believe
that,
with
the
combination
of
the
of
the
reduction
in
the
width
of
the
crosswalk
and
these
signs
that
the
experience
of
the
pedestrians
crossing
this
location
will
be
vastly
improved
over
existing
conditions,
there
was
an
issue
also
raised
regarding
the
safety
of
the
intersection
or
the
curve
of
Clark
and
an
oak
around
this
corner.
Here.
This
is
the
existing
condition
of
the
of
the
curve
of
the
road.
There
is
a
crosswalk
here
that
is
pretty
faded.
Existing
is
pretty
faded.
This
is
the
island.
J
That's
it's
not
a
very
well
designed
intersection,
particularly
with
this
wide
angles
here.
That
kind
of
it
lacks
the
guidance
that
the
driver
requires,
as
they
come
around
the
corner
here.
So
there
are
a
couple
of
improvements
that
are
being
contemplated.
One
is
part
of
the
1815
Ridge
Avenue
development,
the
project
that
is
going
here.
They
will
be
enhancing
the
curves
of
the
intersection,
really
create
more
of
a
90
degree
approach
for
Oak
Avenue
from
the
north,
narrowing
again
the
opening
and
creating
more
enhanced
crosswalks
across
both
oak
and
Clark
Street.
J
This
chart
may
be
a
little
hard
to
read.
Is
the
summary
of
the
speed
study
that
the
city
police
department
did
and
I
think
there
is
a
representative
here
from
the
police
department.
He
can
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
if
you
like,
but
basically
what
they
did.
Is
they
set
up
two
counters
over
a
one-week
period
to
measure
the
speed
of
traffic
along
oak
and
and
Clark,
and
the
results
of
this
study
shows
clearly
that
there
is
no
speeding
concern
right
now
today,
under
existing
conditions.
J
The
study
showed
that
the
average
speed
in
the
northbound
direction
was
thirteen
point
eight
miles
an
hour
and
the
speed
in
the
southbound
direction
was
fourteen
point
one,
the
a
the
85th
percentile
and
that's
what
we
would
use
and
the
city
would
use
to
determine
what
the
prevailing
speed
is
and
that's
what
the
standard
is
used
to
set
the
speed
limit.
The
85th
percentile
was
found
to
be
21
miles
an
hour,
so
it's
below
the
25
miles
an
hour
threshold.
So
there's
definitely
not
a
speeding
issue
along
that
corridor.
J
J
So
what
this
chart
does
is
compares
the
the
trip
generation
on
a
daily
basis
between
the
proposed
development,
with
other
potential
developments
that
might
be
developed
on
the
site,
Apartments
supermarket
a
hotel,
general
office,
a
restaurant
or
specialty
retail.
So
we
brought
these
as
an
example
of
what
these
other
developments
could
generate,
and
you
can
see
clearly
from
a
traffic
standpoint
on
a
daily
basis.
The
our
proposed
development
generates
the
least
amount
of
traffic
throughout
the
day
when
you
compare
it
to
the
other
uses
that
could
be
developed.
J
Similarly,
we
looked
at
the
comparison
from
the
peak
hour
standpoint.
This
part
of
the
chart
is
looks
at
it
during
the
morning
peak.
This
looks
at
it
during
the
evening
peak
and
again,
this
here
is
what
we
would
anticipate
our
development
would
generate
again,
as
you
start,
comparing
it
with
other
potential
developments,
you
can
see
that
they
would
generate
more
traffic
and,
in
case
of
retail,
an
office
a
lot
more
traffic,
so
those
uses
will
have
a
significantly
more
and
bigger
impact
on
the
oken
Clark
and
the
intersections
with
church
and
wage.
J
K
Good
evening,
members
of
the
Commission
and
staff,
my
name
is
Aaron
Raza
with
the
SG
architects
I
we're
going
to
very
briefly
go
through
the
perspective
images.
As
Johnny
had
noted,
we
are
trying
to
stay
with
any
new
information
only
for
this
presentation
and
have
a
series
of
perspectives
that
we
can
certainly
come
back
to
with
questions
after
a
very
rigorous
debate,
both
internally
within
my
firm
and
our
client.
K
We
believe
that
the
kind
of
modernist
expression
with
a
playful
fenestration
of
the
metal
panels
and
the
glazing
with
a
strong
podium
and
then
the
relationship
of
the
street,
to
a
very
active
use
at
the
sidewalk,
are
all
character
things
that
we
feel
are
going
to
be
very
important
to
this
development.
That
said,
some
of
the
changes
that
were
updated
are
literally
some
cold,
compliant
things
that,
as
we
learned
and
got
deeper
into
the
plans,
the
these
were
just
things
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we're
in
in
our
drawings
and
part
of
the
public.
K
Testimony.
So
I
won't
go
through
these
in
detail,
but
again
we're
here
for
questions
and
have
these
four
views
that
you
may
want
to
ask
us
to
pull
up.
Thank
you
with
that
Johnny's
going
to
come
back
up
and
we
are
going
to
talk
about
the
height
allowances,
and
then
we
also
are
going
to
show
a
shadow
study
that
both
of
us
are
gonna.
Help
describe
and
I
do
have
a
material
board
here.
If
any
would
like
to
see
them
up
close.
Thank
you.
H
So
again,
as
Aaron
outlined
here,
this
is
just
the
aerial
that
you've
seen
in
the
past.
The
code
reference
he
was
speaking
to
his
access
to
the
roof
requires
a
stair
in
evanston
sui
added
that
today,
nations,
no
other
changes
were
really
made
176
feet
in
height
in
comparison
to
106,
just
to
the
south,
as
you
cross
Church,
you
have
a
hundred
and
sixty
nine.
If
you
jump
over
North
East,
you
have
259
feet.
This
is
just
a
side
section
that
we
thought
would
look
at
the
north/south
perspective.
H
H
This
is
just
a
easy,
simple
way
to
look
at
what
would
be
allowed
from
a
code
perspective
under
the
current
zoning
without
any
site
development
allowances,
so
that
would
allow
for
a
hundred
and
six
story
building
and
then
within
that
plan
of
the
downtown.
At
one
point
in
2009,
it
allowed
up
to
165
feet.
Those
are
two
separate
categories.
Obviously
the
plan
is
one
thing,
but
then
site
development
allowances.
Allow
you
to
provide
public
benefit,
look
at
a
number
of
different
ways
to
work
within
the
code.
H
These
are
not
variances,
there
are
exceptions
to
code,
so
we've
heard
that
term
quite
often
recently.
So
we
wanted
to
point
that
out
and
look
at
how
tall
our
building
could
be
within
the
maximizing
category
of
our
site,
which
we're
allowed
two
hundred
and
sixty
eight
point
five
feet.
So
we
are
not
maximizing
the
site.
We
are
landing
with
what
we
feel
is
in
context
with
the
neighboring
properties.
If
you
look
at
this
angle
here,
this
shows
looking
north
from
the
south.
Seventeen
forty
oak
are
on
the
left
of
the
page
at
eighty
eight
feet.
H
Seventeen
twenty
maple
are
at
two
hundred
fifty
nine
feet
and
are
building
176
feet
to
the
top
of
the
roof
of
that
same
dimension.
Looking
at
it
from
a
code
perspective
again
that
dimension
there
at
one
hundred
and
six,
using
the
plan
of
the
downtown
area
in
the
zoning
district
165
feet
up
to
268
with
site
development
allowances,
so
just
wanted
outline.
In
any
event,
a
CO
compliant
building
will
be
over
the
condos
to
the
to
the
west
without
any
site
development
allowances.
So
I
think
that's.
H
Why
we're
here
to
kind
of
jump
into
the
shadow
studies
to
show?
In
any
event,
a
building
would
be
taller
than
theirs
without
asking
for
site
of
ailment
allowances
and
we're
landing
in
the
middle,
not
maximizing,
what's
allowed
under
the
code
in
this
area.
So
with
that
I
would
ask
if
Melissa
could
flipped
or
Scott
would
be
very
helpful.
Thank
you.
So
Aaron's
gonna
walk
you
through.
Maybe
before
you
hit
play,
we
are
gonna
be
hitting.
It
looks
like
what
video
first
that
were
so.
K
The
shadow
studies
that
you're
gonna
see
we
did
it
four
different
times
of
the
year.
We
hit
the
seasons,
which
is
very
typical
of
of
what
we
present
in
in
the
different
Commission's
that
we
work
in,
or
different
cities
and
villages.
The
so
we're
gonna
hit
December
June
margin,
September,
and
we
are
doing
it
for
an
eight-hour
period
of
Dave
and
we
actually
did
it
as
an
animation
and
each
second
will
represent
one
hour
duration,
and
we
can
certainly
pause
this
and
and
talk
about
specific
events,
if
necessary.
So.
H
K
This
is
the
worst-case
scenario
of
any
say
and
being
that
we're
in
a
northern
state.
Our
shadows
are
long
in
winter,
so
we
can
play
that
a
couple
of
times,
but
literally
a
20-foot
tree
is
gonna,
cast
a
pretty
significant
shadow.
You
can
see
where
the
different
adjacent
towers.
Thank
you
that's
very
helpful.
We
can
play
this
one
more
time
and
again
we
can
pause
this.
So
every
second
is
one
hour
and
you
can
see
I
starting
at
8
a.m.
and
ending
at
4
p.m.
so
that's
December
worst
case
scenario.
K
K
You
can
see
where
the
shadows
start
in
the
morning
and
eventually
end
up
in
the
evening,
and
eventually
the
adjacent
projects,
if
you
could
pause
it
towards
the
end,
we're
shadowing
in
the
morning
adjacent
projects
and
towards
the
evening
we're
being
shadowed
by
our
adjacent
projects.
And
if
we
go
to
the
next
one,
so
we'll
hit
March
next.
K
K
A
So,
thank
you
very
much.
I
think
at
this
time
we're
going
to
open
this
up
to
questions
from
the
public,
but
only
questions
pertaining
to
the
new
evidence.
Please
we
had
questions
pertaining
to
the
rest
of
the
testimony
before
this.
So
is
there
anyone
that
would
like
to
ask
questions
on
the
new
evidence.
That's
been
presented.
A
J
M
Hello,
Gary
Johnson,
1720,
Oak
Avenue,
during
your
presentation
on
the
evidence,
I
heard
you
talking
about
discussions
within
your
firm
and
I
was
expecting
something
I
didn't
hear.
Did
those
discussions
include
an
evaluation
of
whether
or
not
to
ask
for
these
allowances
and
listen
to
the
community
because
they
add
to
the
congestion
and
this
traffic
changer
and
the
safety
issues
each
and
every
one
of
them?
If
you
get
them
the
way
you
originally
asked,
have
you
considered
reducing
your
request
for
allowances.
H
A
H
K
A
O
My
name
is
Alan
Bergman
17:20
Oak
unit
611,
having
been
involved
in
the
enactment
of
the
Americans
with
Disabilities
Act
and
the
Fair
Housing
Act.
When
I
worked
on
Capitol
Hill,
there
are
the
minimal
standards.
Then
there
are
some
additional
standards
given
that
you're
talking
about
a
building
that
will
be
55
and
older,
how
many
units
will
have
roll-in
showers
in
them
or
the
availability
of
a
roll-in
shower?
O
I
So
the
building
will
meet
full
compliance
with
the
Illinois
accessibility
code,
based
on
the
number
of
units
that
will
require
34
of
those
units
to
have
enhanced
accessibility,
pull
side
clearance
on
the
doors
countertops
that
are
within
a
lower
range
counter
above
counters,
within
a
lower
range
in
terms
of
many
of
those
units.
Some
of
them
have
bathtubs
the
units
that
are
fair
housing
or
designed
with
showers.
Those
showers
do
have
seats
within
them.
I
They
may
be
transfer
showers,
I
think
they
can
look
at
that,
but
that
is
within
the
realm
of
the
code
to
have
a
transfer
shower,
and
they
are
also
installing
seats
and
grab
bars
within
them.
So
they
are
doing
an
enhanced
level
of
accessibility
related
to
the
toilet
rooms
with
are
the
bathrooms
within
those
units
they
meet
clearances
at
the
doors
and
pull
side
clearances
and
and
again
the
the
terrace
has
a
lower
threshold,
so
they
are
making
a
lot
of
enhancements
above
and
beyond
the
code
that
are
required.
Thank.
P
P
A
R
Evening
I
am
Kurt,
Shaffer
I
live
at
1740
Oak.
My
question
turns
the
speed
study
that
was
done
and
I'd
like
to
thank
Reggie
for
doing
that
study,
but
there
were
big,
yellow
blinking
signs
put
up
that
display
your
speed
and
that's
how
we
were
measuring
speeds,
and
my
question
is:
would
that
not
affect
the
outcome
of
the
study?
Thank
you.
S
T
A
Okay,
any
any
other
questions
from
commissioners
all
right,
great
all
right.
So
now
that
we've
had
the
case
presented
I'm
going
to
open
up
public
testimony,
public
testimony
will
be
limited
to
two
minutes
for
individuals
and
if
you
are
just
in
the
interest
of
time,
because
there's
lots
of
people
here,
if
you
agree
with
what
someone
said-
you're
welcome
to
come
up.
But
if
you
can
just
say,
I
agree
with
that
person.
Instead
of
instead
of
just
repeating
the
same
kind
of
points
that
have
been
made,
that
would
be
much
appreciated.
A
A
Frank
Montaigne
who
asked
for
the
continuance
of
he's
here,
see
here
all
right
so
that
since
he
is
not
here,
then
we
will
ask
for
the
presentation
that's
been
prepared
by
mr.
Phillip
crippled
crew
field.
Thank
you,
sorry,
and
if
you
can
and
if
you
can
keep
keep
it
as
brief
as
possible
within
the
ten
minutes,
please
I
will.
U
U
U
U
U
These
these
people
that
live
here
in
this
community
were
brought
here
by
the
cooperative
effort
of
the
Center
for
independent
futures,
with
the
encouragement
of
the
city.
They
require
support
of
their
families,
caregivers
service
providers
coming
and
going
on
a
daily
basis.
Adequate
Street
parking
is
absolutely
critical
to
maintain
these
support
networks.
U
Now,
looking
at
the
broader
community
here
is,
the
proposed
1727
right
across
the
street
is
the
Siena
condominium
and
for
the
purpose
of
this
slide,
I'd
like
you
to
focus
on
that
red
triangle
at
the
North
that
is
1815
Ridge,
it
is
an
assisted
living
senior
assisted
living
facility
that
has
been
approved
by
this
commission
and
is
and
the
City
Council
and
is
a
half
the
construction
begin
later
this
year.
It
is
immediately
north
of
the
of
the
Mount
Zion
Church,
which
is
directly
across
the
street
on
Clark
Street
from
the
Siena
condominium.
U
The
only
access
point
to
this
development
is
through
the
extension
of
Oak
Street
at
the
corner
of
oak
and
Clark
and
as
shown
by
those
red
arrows
and
and
the
in
the
red
circle.
It
is
only
a
few
steps
and
seven
car
lengths
away
from
the
north
boundary
of
1727
and
so
by
any
measure.
1815
Ridge
is
clearly
a
part
of
this
name
of
this
neighborhood
and
must
be
considered
as
part
of
this
of
your
deliberations.
U
U
U
Now,
let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
building
height,
you've
heard
a
lot
about
code
and
and
variances
and
allowances.
I'm
gonna
talk
to
you
about
this.
Just
from
the
perspective
of
someone
who
lives
here
and
someone
who
is
going
to
come
and
go
on
a
daily
basis.
Let's
look:
let's
look
at
again:
17
27
at
176
feet.
U
17:27
will
be
75%
higher
tall
than
the
average
of
all
buildings.
West
of
the
tracks,
when
you
look
east
of
the
tracks,
the
four
buildings
cited,
the
average
is
higher
because
it's
skewed
by
the
condominium
right
across
from
the
from
the
theater,
but
even
there
the
average
is
134
feet
and
when
you
take,
the
average
of
all
of
all
of
the
buildings
in
this
neighborhood
is
defined
by
the
developer.
U
17:27
oak
is
58%
taller
than
all
of
the
buildings
in
the
neighborhood
in
terms
of
height
I'll.
Leave
you
with
the
thoughts
that,
when
you
think
about
it,
the
height
bulk
and
scale
of
1727
1727
is
the
tallest
or
would
would
be
the
tallest
building
west
of
the
tracks.
It's
twice
the
height
of
siena
buildings
directly
across
the
street.
U
It
overwhelms
the
architectural
e
significant
how
many
on
building
at
the
corner
of
church
and
oak
by
seventy
six
feet,
combined
with
the
average
data
I
just
presented
to
you,
I
think
the
conclusion
is
inescapable
that,
under
the
terms
of
the
of
the
guidelines
that
that
you're
asked
to
review
and
approve
in
proportion
to
the
surroundings,
the
massing
and
height
of
1727
oak
is
out
of
totally
out
of
context
and
does
not
maintain
the
human
scale
of
this
neighborhood.
Okay,.
U
U
You've
heard
a
lot
about
the
existing
street
parking.
We
asked
Trammell
crow,
whether
they
would
consider
putting
in
more
underground
parking
and,
in
fact
go
underground
and
they
said
no
I
would
just
ask
you
to
consider
the
impact
of
this
development
on
the
already
critical
parking
conditions
ads
that
exist
in
this
neighborhood.
U
Let's
talk
about
traffic
safety
again
back
to
the
back
to
the
aerial
view
you
see
what
I've
done
is
with
with
yellow
dots
identified.
The
current
access
points,
the
right,
yellow,
dots
and
arrows
to
the
traffic
of
of
this
area.
The
red,
the
red
dots
in
the
red
arrows
represent
what
is
coming
with
1815,
Ridge
and
and
would
come
with
1727
oak.
U
The
key
fact
that
has
been
totally
ignored,
totally
ignored
by
klo
a
and
the
developer
is
that
this
is
a
major
truck
route.
This
is
the
only
truck
route
X
to
access.
The
downtown
Eva's
the
corridor
from
the
north
and
these
photos
illustrate
that
you
have
18
wheels.
You
have
you
have
a
large
semis,
you
have
delivery
trucks,
and
this
is
an
ordinary
daytime.
Traffic
and
I
haven't
heard
any
discussion
of
that
at
all.
In
the
KOA
study,
more
illustrations
of
traffic.
U
Now
a
lot
of
discussion
about
this
in
this
corner
at
oak
and
and
Clark
Street.
The
this
slide
illustrates
the
interrelationship
between
parking
and
truck
traffic
and
traffic
on
this
street.
This
is
the
current
condition.
The
key
thing
to
keep
in
mind
here
is
that
at
the
far
north
you
see
for
parallel
spots.
U
U
But
even
if
you
take
these
out,
what
you
see
is
the
effect
and
the
overhead
is
when
you
bring
out
angled
parking,
you
reduce
the
available
traffic
way
to
what
I
think
is
33
feet
and
I
I
defy
anyone
have
to
two
trucks
coming
in
front
of
each
other
to
make
that
turn.
At
the
same
time,
this
simply
has
not
been
thought
through.
All.
U
In
conclusion,
let
me
say
that
the
massing
height
and
of
this
structure
is
just
total
out
of
context
with
the
surroundings
and
does
not
maintain
the
human
scale
of
this
neighborhood.
The
unit
density
is
not
compatible
with
the
surrounding
residential
neighborhood
and
the
land
use
intensity.
It
will
simply
overwhelm
the
saturated
parking
conditions
in
this
neighborhood
that
there
are
absolutely
an
absolute
essential
accommodation
for
the
disabled
community
of
Siena
and
the
increase
in
hazardous
traffic.
Is
it
to
me
inescapable
and
well
documented
all
of
these
factors?
U
A
Thank
You
mr.
Cofield,
alright,
alright
court
order.
Please
all
right!
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Alright,
at
this
time,
we're
going
to
take
take
public
testimony
in
the
order
that
people
signed
the
end.
Now
we're
going
to
start
with
the
sign-in
sheet.
That
was
people.
We
allowed
people
last
meeting
to
to
testify
if
they
weren't
going
to
be
here,
we're
gonna
start
with
with
the
remainder
who
were
signed
in
for
last
meeting.
So
if
I
can
ask,
is
there
a
Jessica,
Feldman,
okay,
Jessica's?
Not
here?
Q
V
My
name
is
Ben
Campbell
I
live
at
1740
oke
unit
506.
The
big
concern
is
the
traffic,
and
the
safety
and
cost
of
the
pockets
of
our
building
I
think
is
very
inappropriate
to
have
throw
too
big
towers
on
the
same
street
and
to
have
all
these
huge
trucks
and
also
ruin
our
street.
That
was
just
recently
fixed
last
year
and
that's
it
okay.
Thank
you.
W
Thank
you
good
evening.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
questions
about
this
unit,
which
applies
to
a
bunch
of
other
large
projects
going
on
in
the
city.
Number
one
is:
is
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
being
followed
on
this
project
as
far
as
size
per
unit
as
far
as
what
percentage
of
units
are
being
made?
Affordable,
I
know
that
the
code
is
50
to
60%.
Ami
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
exceptions
that
have
been
consistently
allowed
for
these
large
structures
and
I
can't
understand
why
the
codes
and
ordinances
are
not
being
followed
as
written.
L
X
Me
yeah
good
evening
to
the
Commission
and
good
evening
to
everyone.
My
name
is
Reverend.
Dr.
Torres,
Scurlock
and
I
serve
as
the
senior
pastor
at
Mount,
Zion
Missionary
Baptist
Church
here
in
Everson,
and
we
are
located
at
1113,
Clark
Street
and
we
are
also
in
the
community
we're
going
to
also
be
impacted
and
I
brought
some
of
our
members
here
tonight
and
I
want
to
kind
of
move
in
that
direction.
How
will
this
impact
the
church
I've
heard
a
lot
about
traffic
studies?
Has
any
of
those
traffic
studies
been
on
Sunday
to
kll?
X
A
X
X
A
X
X
A
X
R
Thank
You
mr.
chairman,
again
I'm
Kurt,
chief
Ryland
1740
oak
I
had
prepared
a
brief,
very
brief
statement
this
evening,
but
I
also
have
a
couple
of
questions
that
didn't
meet
the
criteria
that
was
set
for
questions
earlier
and
I.
Don't
know
if
there'll
be
a
chance
for
answers,
but
but
I
sincerely
hope
that
so
so
the
developer
has
stated
previously
that
underground
parking,
which
would
avoid
the
very
imposing
podium
which
doesn't
meet
setback,
just
isn't
an
option
because
of
the
water
table.
R
So
then
my
question:
if
the
Commission
is,
how
do
you
accept
that
statement
in
light
of
the
fact
that
the
garage
directly
across
the
street
at
1718
Oak
has
two
full
stories
of
underground
parking?
My
second
question
is
also
about
water.
The
proposal
complies
with
the
city
requirements
for
storm
water
detention
with
six
cubic
feet
to
spare.
I
would
note,
but
how,
if
it
all,
has
the
city
accounted
for
the
increasing
frequency
and
unpredictability
of
hundred-year
in
greater
storms
over
the
last
decade?
R
I
can
get
my
statement
in
it's
too
much
too
much
building
for
the
lot
too
much
building
for
the
neighborhood
too
much
to
expect
to
our
traffic
engineers
that
we
can
dump
two
huge
new
towers
at
the
same
intersection,
one
of
which
is
a
novel
use,
never
tried
in
Evanston
and
be
able
to
predict
what
that
will
do
to
traffic
in
the
neighborhood
downtown
and
on
Ridge
too
much
to
believe
that
the
planned
development
process
means
the
zoning
rules
for
the
lot
go
out.
The
window
and
expansion
in
any
dimension
is
up
for
grabs.
Y
I'm
Pam
Gibson
in
live
at
12:28,
Emerson,
Street
and
I'm
relatively
new
to
the
understanding
of
this
project.
So
I
come
here
tonight
to
listen
and
as
speak
as
a
reasonable
person.
I've
listened
to
the
community
and
I
think
this
is
a
developer's
dream.
They
don't
see
how
in
any
way
it's
taking
the
community
into
consideration
and
I
live
it
12:28
and
the
gentleman
that
spoke
made
a
made
a
statement.
Y
I,
don't
think
the
impact
has
been
looked
at
for
Emerson,
Green,
Bay
and
enriched,
because
I
faced
that
and
I
see,
I
see
problems
already
with
the
existing
intersection
and
I
think
this
will
create
more
so
I'm
very
concerned
about
this
whole
project
as
a
whole
and
I,
don't
think
it's
been
taking
the
community
into
consideration.
Thank
you.
Z
Hi
I'm
Tony
ray
and
I
live
at
10:20
Grove,
which
is
an
independent
living
facility.
I
am
representing
interfaith
action
of
Evanston
and
also
joining
forces
for
affordable
housing.
We're
impressed
or
pleased
that
10%
of
the
units,
as
according
to
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
are
going
to
be
affordable
and
I
echo.
What
I
think
it
was
free
Friedman
said
that
we
really
want
to
see
50%
of
those
units
at
50%
of
the
ami
and
50%
of
them
at
60%
of
the
ami
and
I
have
one
other
thing
to
say.
Z
AA
Good
evening
my
name
is
Natalie
Rakowski
and
I
live
in
Bartlett
Illinois
I'm,
one
of
the
many
caregivers
who
supports
one
of
the
disabled
residents
at
Siena
condos,
the
patient
I
work
for
needs,
a
substantial
amount
of
care
from
nurses,
caretakers,
dog,
walkers,
housekeepers
family
and
other
medical
practitioners.
The
majority
of
the
time
at
least
two
or
three
of
these
people
are
present
at
the
home
at
one
time.
AA
Without
access
to
parking
within
the
building,
we
are
all
required
to
find
parking
on
the
street
or
in
the
neighborhood,
and,
if
you
think
about
it,
if
many
of
these
people
in
the
disabled
community
require
this
amount
of
care,
it
kind
of
adds
up
pretty
substantially
the
amount
of
parking
that
is
also
necessary
for
those
of
us
who
work
during
the
day.
The
closest
spot
is
often
blocks
away.
AA
With
the
construction
of
the
new
assisted
living
facility
at
1815
Ridge
in
the
coming
months,
the
strain
on
the
neighborhood
would
only
increase
I'll,
be
it
for
different
reasons.
The
aging
population
moving
into
1815
Ridge,
will
have
similar
needs
as
many
of
the
residents
of
Sienna,
with
over
one-third
of
the
units
dedicated
to
resident
residences
with
cognitive
and
memory
impairments.
18:15
is
adding
a
population
of
people
with
special
needs,
even
larger
than
the
community
already
established
at
Siena.
The
density,
congestion
and
safety
risks
added
by
169
more
units
in
such
a
confined
space.
AA
Only
half
a
block
away
cannot
be
underestimated,
disregarded
or
ignored.
Building
a
development
of
this
magnitude
in
such
a
confined
area
will
compromise
the
safety
and
quality
of
life
of
yet
another
population
of
people.
In
addition
to
the
residents
with
disabilities
at
Siena,
they
too
have
rights
to
a
safe,
supportive
neighborhood
in
a
community
that
enables
them
to
live
their
best
life.
If
Evanston
is
truly
committed
to
helping
seniors
and
the
disabled
have
the
quality
of
life
we
all
deserve.
AA
O
O
Part
of
the
reason
I'm
in
this
neighborhood
is
because
of
my
daughter,
Dina
who's
sitting
over
here,
who
was
being
bounced
around
by
gentrification
and
other
communities,
and
the
suburbs
and
I
finally
said
enough
is
enough.
She
needs
permanency
and
stability
and
security.
She
has
a
good
life.
She
has
a
driver's
license.
She
has
a
job,
but
she
needs
a
home,
that's
kind
of
fundamental,
and
so
we
bought
into
Siena
four
years
ago
because
it's
always
good
at
71
to
start
a
new
mortgage.
Ok,
but
but
you
need
to
hear
that.
O
Parking
is
critical
today
when
I
come
to
visit,
I
can't
even
find
a
place
on
Saturday
or
Sunday.
Three
four
blocks
away.
If
her
staff
have
to
visit
her,
they
walk
from
10:15,
Davis
or
someplace
further.
But
let's
look
at
the
larger
picture
and
I
started
to
look
at
this
18:15
piece.
If
I
read
correctly
all
the
background
paper
on
that
the
average
age
of
the
resident
there
is
going
to
be
78
years
old.
O
Let
me
give
you
a
little
stem
of
graphics
about
Aging,
all
of
which
we
like
to
deny
is
going
to
happen
to
any
of
us
okay
over
65.
These
are
CDC
numbers,
because
this
is
this
community,
we're
talking
about
an
across
the
street
as
well:
mobility,
impairment,
20%
at
65
vision,
impairment,
17%
at
65,
hearing
prayer
for
people
over
70,
greater
than
25
decibels
in
the
better
ear
63.1%.
O
We
are
talking
about
a
growing
community
between
what's
already
in
1815
people
already
in
Siena
and
now
what's
proposed
in
this
development
of
people
who
are
going
to
age
with
disability,
we're
going
to
have
lots
and
lots
of
people.
That's
just
part
of
the
aging
process,
as
we
all
live
longer,
so
the
dilemma
here
is
the
personal
care
home
health
aides,
whether
it's
one-bedroom
or
two-bedroom
and
I
appreciated
that
recommendation.
O
The
folks
who
are
going
to
in
this
project
are
going
to
need
home
health
care
at
some
point,
they're
going
to
need
personal
care
assistants
they're
going
to
age
in
place.
Those
people
need
a
place
to
park.
They
need
to
be
able
to
get
in
and
out
in
a
regular
basis
and
do
the
work
they
need
to
do
so.
Those
people
can
age
in
place.
Otherwise,
that's
going
to
be
a
disaster
and
a
failure
and
the
numbers
just
don't
work.
The
speed
limit
stuff
we
can
play
games
with
averages
all
over.
O
There
were
a
number
of
those
over
31
miles
an
hour.
I
will
tell
you
pulling
out
of
Siena
on
most
days.
I
fear
for
my
life
coming
out
of
that
driveway,
with
the
cars
coming
down,
Clark
on
two
oak
and
the
truck
and
I'm
a
darn
good
driver.
Okay,
and
that's
without
all
this
additional
stuff.
We're
talking
about
so
density
is
an
issue.
Parking
is
an
issue.
O
AB
Hi
I'm
jennifer
on
behalf
of
my
mom
debbie
long.
My
family
owns
a
siena
court
condominium
at
1740
oak
and
my
mom
is
also
real
estate
licensing
instructor.
We
have
significant
concerns
about
the
pros,
Trammell,
crow
development
and
it
listed
here
in
order
of
gravity.
The
first
is
licensure.
It's
come
to
our
attention
that
the
architect
for
the
project,
Aaron
Rosyth
and
his
firm
ESG-
are
not
licensed
by
the
state
of
Illinois,
neither
mr.
Rosa
nor
his
firm
appear
in
the
Illinois
Department
of
Financial
and
Professional
Regulation
or
IDF
PR
database
of
licensees.
AB
This
information
was
recently
confirmed
by
an
IDF
PR
licensing
officer.
I,
have
the
statistics
here
for
everybody,
with
the
link
to
the
website
as
evidence
to
act
as
architects
in
Illinois.
The
firm
must
be
licensed
in
Illinois
according
to
the
IDF
PR.
Offering
services
without
a
professional
design
from
license
is
a
violation
of
each
for
design,
profession,
acts
and
subject
to
discipline
by
the
department.
AB
Each
office
in
Illinois
must
have
a
resident
architect
licensed
in
Illinois
to
consider
a
business
design
of
such
a
major
impact
on
the
city
of
Evanston,
from
an
unlicensed
architect
and
firm,
is
at
best
foolhardy
and
at
worst,
a
violation
of
the
public
trust.
Even
considering
preliminary
plans
from
an
unlicensed
individual
puts
Public
Safety
at
jeopardy.
The
Planning
Commission
must
require
that
trammel
Crowe
Schmitt
a
plan
from
a
licensed
firm
before
any
more
consideration
is
given
to
development
of
the
land
at
1727.
Oak.
AC
AC
AD
That
you've
done
a
study
about
the
speed,
but
the
speed
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
amount
of
traffic.
When
you
try
to
pull
out
of
our
unit,
we
are
directly
across
from
the
church
and
right
down
the
block
on
the
west
side,
from
where
1815
the
new
assisted
living
is
going
to
be
built
since
the
Emerson
green
bay
ridge
new
corridor,
the
traffic
is
even
worse.
Trying
to
pull
out
of
our
driveway
onto
Ridge
is
just
amazing.
AD
It's
not
a
matter
of
the
amount
of
time
and
the
patience
that
you
need,
but
pulling
out
strategically,
so
that
you're,
safe
and
all
the
other
drivers
are
safe.
It
has
been
an
increased
issue
of
concern
ever
since
that
improvement
in
the
corridor.
I
know
the
engineers
are
trying
to
do
their
best,
but
with
18
15
coming.
If
this
new
development
is
approved,
I'm
really
concerned
for
what
will
happen
and
I
do
have
to
say
that
I
am
sure
there
would
have
been
a
lot
more
people
from
our
building
there.
AD
N
AE
N
AE
AE
AE
My
questions
come
about
your
staging
where
that's
gonna
happen,
I'm
concerned
about
the
parking,
because
I
couldn't
really
tell
if
you're
looking
at
changing
parking
on
Clarke,
which
is
a
question
of
our
church
and
on
the
east,
I
mean
on
the
south
and
north
side.
I'm
pastor,
I
already
mention
about
the
dog
park,
because
that
was
one
of
my
questions
as
well,
and
then
I
would
also
like
some
information
about
public
benefits.
AE
AE
We
had
many
meetings
with
them
and
had
really
some
good
conversations
and
I
think
certainly
with
18:15.
We
have
really
worked
out
some
good
public
benefits
with
them,
so
we're
not
invincible.
We're
there,
as
I
said
for
the
last
124
years
and
conversation
and
communication
does
make
good
neighbors.
Thank
you.
So
if
we
could
have
answers
to
those
I
know
how
to
get
them
or
they're
gonna
respond
afterwards.
That
is
normal
I'm.
AE
Q
P
AF
Good
evening
and
thank
you
for
all,
you
do
to
support
so
much
of
what
we
do
here
in
the
city.
I
am
an
psyche
on
the
executive
director
at
center
for
independent
futures.
Our
organization
owns
a
condominium
at
1740,
Oak
Street
unit
204
I'm,
here
tonight,
really
to
talk
of
the
concern
that
I
have
of
this
increased
density
and
the
traffic
it
will
have
in
the
quality
of
life
for
people
who
live
at
Siena.
AF
Currently,
there's
several
neighborhood
residents,
Evanston
residents
with
disabilities,
who
employ
their
caregivers
and
are
concerned
about
already
adequate
parking
for
these
employees.
I,
don't
know
if
any
of
you've
had
that
opportunity
to
drive
through
that
area,
but
you
never
find
a
parking.
It's
it's
very,
very
rare.
To
find
an
open
parking
spot
in
the
area.
People
often
have
to
go
several
blocks
away
to
be
able
to
even
park
and
get
to
their
to
where
they
want
to
provide
support
services.
AF
The
current
demand
is
really
not
adequate
and
I,
don't
see
where
increasing
between
1815
the
new
proposed
one
and
1727
together.
That's
332,
more
units
in
that
very
condensed,
small
area,
and
only
another.
Two
hundred
and
six
parking
spots,
I
just
don't
see
where
this
does
anything
other
than
really
exacerbate
the
need
for
additional
parking
and
then
I'm
also
concerned
with
just
the
quality
of
life
for
people
to
be
able
to
get
around
with
the
amount
of
traffic
in
that
area.
So
that
is
my
concern.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
H
You
mind
throwing
the
presentation
of
sketches
to
flip
through,
so
it's
easy
and
thank
you
everyone
for
joining
us
this
evening.
We
appreciate
the
comments
and
and
I'll
try
to
cover
the
list
here
and,
if
I
miss
anything,
please
let
me
know
when
a
few
of
our
folks
here
can
also
correct
me.
I
just
wanted
to
flip
to
the
first
one
on
the
list
about
our
architect
not
being
licensed.
I
just
want
to
get
that
off
the
radar,
because
it's
not
this
is
our
architect.
They've
built
a
number
of
projects
in
Illinois.
H
This
is
the
license
as
the
project
architect.
Maybe
ESG
was
searched,
not
Elna,
Swanson
Graham,
the
full
name
of
the
architect,
so
just
move
on
from
that,
because
Chris
well,
that
is
our
project
architect
and
he's
registered.
Looking
at
I'll
just
go
back
to
the
questions
section
he's
licensed.
Yes,
he
is
so
moving
on
from
there
staging
one
of
the
conditions
to
the
staff
report
and
to
the
book.
That's
in
front
of
this
evening
is
to
get
approval
from
staff
on
our
logistics
plan.
So
we've
heard
a
lot
of
concern
about
the
alley.
H
That's
just
to
the
west
of
ours,
our
site,
and
we
are
not
going
to
block
that
alley.
We
know
that
the
means
of
ingress
and
egress
for
a
number
of
people
in
community
we're
also
going
to
stay
within
our
sight
area.
For
the
majority
of
the
project.
We
are
having
unloading
and
loading
within
a
confined
area
and
if
there's
any
maneuvering,
we
will
have
flagman
out
there
per
the
guidelines
of
the
city
staff
a
little
to
hit
on
the
stormwater,
I,
believe
staff.
I
know
staff
has
reviewed
our
stormwater
calculations.
H
Currently
it's
pretty
much
all
concrete
parking
lot.
So
from
that
perspective,
we're
going
to
be
a
LEED
certified
silver
level,
building
we'll
be
complying
with
all
the
codes
required
in
the
city
and
improving
upon
the
existing
conditions,
with
green
roofs,
etc
and
storm
water
detention
vaults.
Within
the
proximity
of
our
site,
hitting
on
the
notice
and
I
apologize
sincerely,
we've
tried
our
best
to
notice
individuals.
H
We've
worked
with
staff
to
send
out
mailers
we've
had
a
few
community
meetings
and
working
with
alderman
Braithwaite
the
staff
and
a
few
follow-up
meetings
with
some
of
the
condominiums
I
apologize.
If
no
one
received
a
notice,
that's
not
right
so
we'll
continue
to
work
with
the
aldermen
and
the
staff
to
put
things
on
websites
etc.
I
know
the
the
mailings
went
out
for
the
public
meetings
and
a
few
of
the
community
meetings.
So
I
just
want
to
apologize
for
that.
H
If
you
didn't
receive
that
and
will
work
to
definitely
meet
with
you
yep
so
correct,
so
what
we'll
do
our
best
and
we
love
to
sit
down?
We
actually
appreciate
very
much
so
thank
you
for
offering
that
so
just
wanted
to
hit
on
the
notice
perspective.
Narrowing
the
street
I
think
it
was
referenced
briefly
that
are
we
nearing
it
we're
narrowing
it
only
at
the
crosswalk
section
for
pedestrian
safety,
so
I
think
a
few
people
in
the
audience
said
we.
They
misinterpreted
that,
but
it's
only
at
the
section
or
crossing
us.
H
The
street
will
maintain
the
same
hitting
on
the
street
parking
on
our
side
of
oak,
the
site
that
is
adjacent
to
our
site,
they're,
all
going
to
be
angled
parking
stalls,
so
I
believe
parallel
stalls
were
requested,
but
those
will
be
angled
on
our
side
of
the
street.
We
can't
address
the
developments
that
the
north
of
us
that's
pre-approved
already.
This
is
what
we're
responsible
for
and
we're
working
with,
Kim
Lee
horn
who's,
also
the
civil
engineer
of
that
device
to
try
to
better
connect
this.
H
So
it's
a
it's
a
road
infrastructure
side
wagon
for
infrastructure
to
help
the
streetscape
and
safety
is
a
huge
concern
for
not
only
us
the
neighbors
of
communities,
we're
all
stakeholders
and
we
want
to
hopefully
benefit
from
the
existing
conditions.
The
dog
parks
all
within
our
site.
To
answer
that
question.
We're
gonna,
abide
by
a
lot
of
the
other
community
parks
that
anyone
using
it
will
have
signage
there
that
they
have
to
have
a
permit
like
a
number
of
the
other
parks
around
the
city
of
Evanston.
H
So
if
your
dog,
whatever
animal
you
wish
that
meets
the
criteria
for
the
licensing,
we
will
allow
that
to
occur
within
our
dog
park.
All
on
our
site,
hitting
on
the
underground
parking.
We've
had
numerous
geotechnical
studies
done
on
this
site
on
water
table.
Obviously,
a
different
given
times
and
developments
are
built.
The
water
table
fluctuates
on
our
given
site,
we're
hitting
it
at
eight
to
six
feet,
so
we
are
staying
above
that
from
a
water
tables
perspective.
H
So
we
can
provide
staff
that
data,
but
we've
also
looked
at
it
and
there's
a
number
of
complexities
that
come
into
play.
Not
only
can
you
do
it,
but
is
it
even
feasible
from
a
cost
perspective
by
dewatering
etc
under
building
something
that's
not
meant
to
be
there
if
you
can
avoid
it
with
that,
I
believe
that
is
it
from
a
questioning
how
we're
going
to
respond,
but
we're
here.
Let
us
know
if
we
missed
anything
and
thanks
again
for
all
the
comments.
Oh.
H
Yes,
maybe
I
missed
one
they're
announcing
two
bedroom
units.
We
do
have
two
bedroom
units,
so
the
data
from
a
aging
population
of
55
plus
many
of
those
are
single
occupant
households.
Not
all
we
don't
restrict.
We
offer
small,
medium,
large
of
ones
studios
and
two
bedrooms.
So
from
a
percentage
perspective,
our
studios
are
about
15
percent
of
the
unit
mix,
one-bedroom
small
one
bedrooms
about
15%
medium
one
bedrooms
are
about
23%
enlarged
one.
Bedrooms
are
about
15%
those
range
in
size
from
about
600
about
778
per
unit.
H
Looking
at
two
bedrooms,
we
have
15%
of
those
on
the
smaller
side
and
then
8%
on
the
larger
side.
So
our
goal
is
to
attract
a
number
of
renter's
at
all
different
points
in
their
life,
qualifying
individuals
for
the
fair
housing
at
55,
plus
or
average
unit
sizes
818.
So
we
will
be
providing
two
bedrooms
and
then
lastly,
we've
worked
very
diligently
with
staff.
We
offered
our
original
proposal
with
the
Alderman
to
put
all
of
the
affordable
components
in
a
fee
proposal.
H
We
worked
with
the
aldermen
to
the
goal,
was
to
put
as
many
of
those
on
site
so
we've
actually
by
allowing
flexibility
within
that
we
offered
a
code
compliant
or
a
allowable
fee
ownership.
But
we
also
converted
with
that
to
the
goal
to
have
flexibility
with
AMI
area
median
income
for
different
thresholds
to
put
all
seventeen
on
sites
that
was
working
with
a
lot
of
the
feedback
that
we
were
achievable
and
still
maintain
a
site
and
development
that
can
make
sense.
H
For
from
our
perspective,
we
also
worked
with
staff
working
with
a
local
lender
in
the
area
to
propose
why
we
can't
put
all
that
at
50
and
60
if
they
want
them
all
on
site,
so
I
believe
staffs
working
with
mr.
Fox
on
that
and
and
can
follow
up
with
the
data,
just
like
a
number
of
other
developments
in
the
area.
So
our
goal
is
to
provide
affordable
units
on
site.
H
We
are
doing
it
we're
working
with
some
initiatives
in
the
area
to
try
to
satisfy
that
and
we're
proud
to
say
that
we're
putting
all
seventeen
on
site
fifty
percent
of
those
at
least
fifty
percent
will
be
set
at
50
and
60.
The
remainder
will
be
at
80.
So
if
you
look
at
percentage-wise,
one
of
our
proposals
started
120
and
we've
worked
diligently
to
get
that
closer
to
rent
levels
that
are
satisfactory
to
a
number
of
the
community
members,
so
we're
strong
believers
and
we
are
proud
to
say
we're
putting
all
in
sight.
A
T
AG
Got
a
question
for
the
applicant:
there's
been
a
lot
of
lot
of
comments
about
about
guest
parking,
visitor
parking
caretaker
parking
in
your
calculation
for
how
many
parking
spaces
you
provided
and
based
on
your
experience
with
what
a
senior
living
project
like
this
would
require
for
resident
parking.
How
much
of
that
total
parking
is
would
be
for
guests
or
visitors.
H
Thank
you.
That's
a
that's
a
great
question,
so
the
the
studies
that
we've
done.
We
look
at
it
from
a
few
perspectives.
What
we're
seeing
with
our
partner
and
various
projects
throughout
the
country
we're
also
looking
at
what
we
see
from
a
market
rate,
non
age,
restricted
perspective
and
then
also
the
transit
urban
nature
of
this
site
walkable.
So
the
way
we
view
those
studies
from
this
slide
that
I
referenced.
Previously
we
look
at
it
from
periods
of
time
of
because
it's
not
all
going
to
be
peak
periods.
H
Everyone
parking
there
at
the
same
time
when
the
staffs
all
on
site,
etc,
so
that
those
ratios
include
visitors
and
an
include
staff,
and
it
includes
this
demographic.
We
view
our
staff
to
fluctuate
right
around
six.
Are
they
all
going
to
drive
to
work?
No
one
may
even
live
on
site.
Somebody
commute
via
train
bus
walking,
so
we
pride
ourselves
on
hiring
local
too.
We
want
these
people
to
view
this
community
as
the
amenity
and
that's
why
people
want
to
live
here
and
why
we
want
to
develop
in
Evanston.
H
So
our
goal
is
to
have
a
number
of
people
here,
working
that
are
natives
of
'event
in
Evanston
if
they
fit
the
criteria.
So
there's
a
number
of
things
that
go
into
play,
but
rough
math,
six
people
will
be
on
staff
and
all
those
figures
of
visitors
staff
and
the
aging
demographic,
not
all
of
them
have
cars,
they're,
primarily
one
betterment,
small
studio
units
and
of
this
age
and
studies.
H
We've
worked
with
Callaway
the
ite
for
senior
in
the
85th,
and
the
peak
period
is
right
around
one
hundred
and
twelve
we're
providing
27
above
that
now
I
would
say
we're
more
conservative.
This
is
a
rental
community
as
you,
as
are
all
where
we
have
to
renew
leases
annually,
and
we
have
to
make
sure
we're
keeping
our
tenants
happy
and
not
having
the
same
congestion,
problems
versus
purchasing
and
then
moving
on
and
never
worrying
about
it.
So
I
would
say
that
we're
very
stringent.
That's
why
we're
providing
more
than
code.
H
H
H
J
Yeah
the
the
speech
study,
if
I
heard
the
question
that
that
covers
Sunday
the
city
laid
out,
those
two
counters
for
for
a
whole
week
so
was
inclusive
of
of
a
Sunday
and
Saturday.
As
far
as
our
traffic
study,
you
know,
the
study
focused
on
the
peak
hour
periods
the
rush
hour
traffic,
which
current,
which
typically
occurs
on
a
weekday.
So
we
looked
at
the
morning
rush
and
the
evening
rush
traffic
on
Sundays
is
normally
law.
J
J
A
C
A
J
A
So
the
question
time
I'm
sorry,
is
over.
T
H
Q
Q
A
Right
with
that
commissioners,
it's
now
our
duty
to
deliberate
the
evidence
that
has
been
presented
just
for
clarification
for
everyone.
We
are
a
recommending
body
to
the
City
Council.
We
have
three
alternatives
for
us.
We
can
either
recommend
to
approve,
as
as
presented
by
the
petitioners,
we
can
recommend
to
approve
with
any
modifications
that
we
might
come
up
with
ourselves
or
we
can
recommend
to
deny
the
application.
AG
Listening
attentively
and
I
I
think
that,
as
is
always
the
case
with
these
these
projects,
everyone
has
a
valid
point,
but
I
think
you
know
our
job
is
to
look
overall
at
these
projects,
and
you
know
these
are
these
are
private
developments
and
and
they
there
there
could
be
many
things
on
this
side.
I
happen
to
think
that
this
this
use
is
very
appropriate
for
this
location.
AG
The,
and
it's
also
and
I,
also
believe
that
the
density
and
the
height
is
appropriate
and
and-
and
the
reason
is,
is
because
this
is
this
is
close
to
downtown.
We
want
to
make
Evanston
a
walkable
city.
This
reinforces
that
these
people
will
be
living
very
close
to
downtown
and
I.
Think
it's
a
perfect.
It's
a
perfect
location
for
the
you
know
the
the
idea
of
making
the
city
more
more
walkable,
I.
AG
Think
the
the
traffic
my
opinion,
at
least,
is
that
the
the
the
traffic
from
i8
from
a
over
55
building
live
in
the
city
of
Evanston,
where
there
is
public
transportation
and
you're
close
to
the
downtown
is
going
to
be
minimal.
So
I
don't
see
the
traffic
as
being
that
that
much
of
an
issue
the
applicant
has
added
public
parking
spaces
on
the
street
I
there.
That
may
not
be
enough
to
handle
all
the
all
the
guests,
but
it
it's
not
enough.
Now
it
will
never
be
enough.
AG
So
I
don't
see
how
that
that
problem
can
really
be
solved
with
this
development.
I
guess
the
only
this
may
seem.
This
may
seem
minor,
but
I'm
the
one
that
raised
the
issue
of
the
architecture
and
the
facades
on
this
building.
I,
don't
think
it
it.
It
works
with
the
sort
of
the
classic
architecture.
Modern
or
our
traditional
doesn't
matter,
but
I
don't
think
it.
Evanson
is
a
very
good
architecture.
I,
don't
think
this
facade
is
it
I
think
the
playfulness
is
I
would
describe
it
as
chaotic
and
arbitrary
and
so
I
guess.
F
The
project
fits
well
with
the
2009
downtown
plan.
As
far
as
the
use
goes,
it
fits
in
well
with
with
the
downtown
area.
It
is
a
use
that
encourages
walkability
and
visiting
other
uses
in
the
area.
As
for
the
structure
itself,
the
height
and
bulk
does
fit
with
the
downtown
plan.
I
believe
the
downtown
plan
calls
for
15
to
18
stories
in
that
area,
specifically
in
that
area
that
is
west
of
the
tracks,
so
it
is,
it
is
right
in
that
range.
E
E
That
project
itself
may
have
a
significant
effect
on
the
on
the
prawn,
the
neighboring
area.
I,
don't
know
that
this
project
would
based
on
what
what
I'm
hearing,
but
the
overall
effect
I
think
could
be,
could
be
problematic.
I'm,
not
sure
that
I'm
that
I've
been
convinced
that
it
that
it
won't
have
a
negative
effect.
A
So
so
much
so
talk
talking
about
parking
I.
Think
one
of
the
main
concerns
was
that
that
that
the
parking
is
for
caregivers
and
people
who
come
in
and
out
on
a
on
a
daily
basis
in
order
to
serve
the
people
that
are
here
and
I.
Think
that
got
the
Commissioner
hallux
concern
was
how
many
our
visitor
parking
spaces
now
is
there?
Is
there
anything
that
we
could
somehow
you
know
we?
A
A
A
E
You
know
how
I
like
to
come
up
with
ideas:
that's
a
completely
outside
the
outside
the
scope
of
this
of
this
body
and
and
meetings,
but
the
metro
tracks
at
Oak,
and
is
it
oaken
Clark?
That's
the
intersection
that
the
L
intersection
that
we've
been
talking
about
those
tracks
are
block
access,
black
pedestrian
access
to
a
significant
amount
of
parking,
literally
just
east
of
there.
You
got
the
open-air
lot
where
the
farmers
market
occurs
on
Saturday
mornings
and
then
I
don't
know
the
name
of
the
parking
garage.
E
But
it's
you
know
the
large
park
Maple
Street
parking
garage.
It
would
seem
to
me
that
a
that
a
structural
fix
that
is
beyond
the
scope
of
a
beyond
the
scope
of
this
developer
or
something
that
we
would
impose
upon
any
private
owner
would
be
to
explore
opening
up
a
pedestrian
walkway
from
one
side
to
the
other.
To
allow
access
to
something
that
would
you
know,
parking
garage
would
otherwise
be
three
or
four
blocks
away,
but
again
outside
the
scope
of
this.
D
Likewise,
outside
the
scope
might
the
Siena
project
and
the
city
enter
into
negotiations
for
parking
permits,
reduced
parking
permits
at
the
Maple
Street
garage
I
know
it's
a
few
blocks
away,
but
it
would
be
cheaper
and
then
running
something
that
would
be
cheaper
than
feeding
a
meter
two
hours.
How
would
I
mean
that's?
We
can't
do
anything
about
that
on
this
Commission,
but
I
would
think
that
is
something
worth
exploring.
C
In
general,
agree
with
what
most
of
the
commissioners
have
said,
I
overall
support,
this
development
I
think
it
is
a
good
fit
for
the
site
and
for
the
location.
Downtown
I
am
disappointed
to
hear
that
the
church
had
not
been
engaged
in.
There
had
been
conversations
there,
so
I'd
like
to
just
reiterate
and
encourage
community
outreach
beyond.
We
know
notices,
don't
always
work
so
beyond
notices
and
actually
just
having
meetings
and
sitting
down
with
the
church
and
other
neighbors.
That
would
be
most
impacted
by
this
development.
AH
I
I
asked
the
question
in
our
first
meeting
about
the
potential
caregiver
parking
and,
and
it
was
addressed
a
month
ago.
I
do
I
do
think
this
is
the
right
development
for
this
site.
I
know
living
adjacent
seems
like
people
living
adjacent
to
any
project
that
we
discuss.
There's
always
a
lot
of
anxiety
for
change.
AH
So
you
know
it
is:
it
is
the
right
spot
for
development,
I,
think
it
based
on
the
other
other
types
of
projects
that
we've
seen
presented
to
us.
We
have
said
no.
Where
that
boundary
is
the
ask,
was
too
much
so
so
I,
don't
you
know
we
take
this
very
seriously.
We
listen
to
all
the
evidence.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
that
are
brought
up
before
us,
like
a
maintenance
of
traffic
plan
that
are
just
clearly
out
of
our
realm.
We
don't
govern
those
things
the
city
of
Evanston.
AH
Does
we
have
to
really
our
our
focus
is
very
limited
in
terms
of
interpreting
whether
or
not
a
is
our
within
our
recommendation,
based
on
experience
and
hearing
the
facts
that
are
presented
before
us.
If
any
any
project
brought
before
us
is
if
there
is
a
reason
not
to
believe
that
it
doesn't
comply
with
our
our
our
our
conditions
of
approval
and
I.
Think
that
this
this
project
does
so
I,
don't
have
any
other
major
objections.
AH
AH
It's
a
fad,
but
it
will.
You
know
the
project
seems
to
be.
The
quality
seems
to
be
generally
good,
well
planned
out
for
a
difficult
site,
not
easy
to
develop
a
triangular
site.
This
way,
but
I
think
they've,
they've
done
a
very
good
job
and
in
filling
out
the
the
footprint
of
the
podium
and
providing
a
tower
that.
AH
Is
is
somewhat
interesting.
It
is
interesting,
I
think
the
balconies
save
it
I
appreciate
the
effort
to
mitigate
the
bird
destruction,
which
you
know
I've
come
to
I'm
a
believer
in
based
on
the
last
presentations
by
our
people
in
the
community
very
concerned
about
the
bird
deaths,
which
is
very
quite
serious,
so
yeah,
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
find
anything
horribly.
A
Jacke
objectionable
about
this
project.
AH
A
B
AI
My
big
concern
is
is
the
actual
construction,
because
if
these
two
buildings
are
going
up
at
the
same
time,
I
think
that's
gonna
put
a
real
strain
on
the
neighborhood
and
I
would
hope
that
the
city
could
kind
of
oversee
this.
So
there's
not
an
undue
burden
to
the
residents
but
other
than
that
I
think
it's
a
definite
need
for
the
community
I
think
there
isn't
anything
like
it
around
here
now,
I
think
there
I
think
it'll
see
success
and
I
I'm
happy
to
support
it.
A
Oh
alright,
now,
as
my
my
own
opinion,
is
that
that
I
have
to
agree
that
it
is
an
appropriate
development
for
the
for
the
site
and
it
is
not
the
it
is.
Not
the
burden
of
this
development
to
fix
all
the
inherent
problems
of
the
of
the
of
the
location.
I
am
very
concerned
about
the
traffic
and
pedestrian
safety,
but
I
I.
B
It
also
does
comply
and
then
a
finally
a
development
allowance
for
the
number
of
loading
berths
where
two
are
required
by
code
and
one
is
proposed
with
this.
This.
This
project
has
been
before
the
design
and
project
review
committee
and
design
project
review
committee,
dapper
and
staff.
Both
recommend
approval
of
the
project
subject
to
conditions
of
approval
and
those
conditions
are
outlined
within
the
the
staff
middle.
Thank
you.
AD
A
A
AG
Yeah
I'd
like
to
move
that
we
approve
this
project
with
the
allowances
that
were
that
were
proposed,
but
I'd
like
to
move
that
we
approve
it
because
I
don't
want
to
let
this
one
go
with
two
modifications.
One
of
them
is
that
the
developer
and
the
architect
work
with
some
members
of
this
commission
on
the
on
the
facades
and
number
two
I
thought
that
the
the
comment
on
construction
and
coordination
of
construction
and
I
don't
know
if
this
could
be
part
of
the
motion,
but
was
important
with
the
other
site
coordination
with
the
other
side.
AG
A
AG
A
B
Correct
it
has
been
before
dapper
for
a
recommendation
on
the
plan
development.
If
this
development
were
to
be
approved
by
the
City
Council
prior
to
issuance
of
a
building
permit,
it
would
need
to
return
to
dapper
substantially.
Looking
at
how
similar
the
project
is
to
what
was
approved.
But
there
there
is
room
for
design
changes
within
that
at
dapper.
Alright,.
A
B
To
add
that
one
of
the
conditions
would
recommended
condition.
Number
two
is
that
the
applicant
shall
agree
to
a
construction
management
plan
prior
to
building
permit
issuance.
This
is
a
standard
condition
that
would
be
put
in
the
ordinance
if
this
project
were
approved.
The
1815
bridge
project
also
requires
a
congestion
management
plan,
so
we
could
certainly
would
look
at
the
impact
of
both
of
those
so.
A
AH
AJ
A
N
C
A
AK
E
A
B
O
B
AJ
AJ
Obviously,
whenever
you
have
adult
development
in
town,
it
stirs
a
lot
of
emotion
and
concerns,
and
this
development
is
no
different
than
any
development
that
we've
had
other
than
they
happen
to
be
in
the
second
Ward.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone.
Particular
the
folks
in
the
Senate
for
your
continued
patience
in
walking
through
this
processes.
Well,
I'd
like
to
offer
an
apology
to
the
members
of
Mount
Zion
Church.
AJ
If
you
felt
that
you've
been
excluded
from
this
process,
we
still
have
several
more
public
meetings
throughout
this,
and
typically
just
based
on
my
work
schedule,
it's
difficult
to
make
it
to
these
meetings.
I
typically
don't
appear
or
get
involved
until
it
comes
to
City
Council,
but
every
time
there
is
a
development
or
something
I
do
try
to
focus
on
on
those
that
are
most
impacted.
So
again,
my
apologies
for
the
oversight.
I
will
own
a
piece
of
that.
AJ
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
to
everyone
present
that
took
the
time
to
stay
and
I
hope
that
you
share
this
message
that
you
know.
Not
only
did
our
staff
take
notes
for
you.
All.
We've
had
a
couple
of
meetings
where
the
issue
the
parking,
the
speed
of
the
trucks,
the
congestion
is
chest,
congestion,
shadows
and
density
is
something
that
we
will
still
continue
to
pay
attention
to
as
we
move
through
this
process.
AJ
Unlike
the
other
project,
when
you
look
at
the
affordable
range,
because
I
always
like
to
explain
to
people,
affordability
is
relative
to
who's
actually
paying
for
it
and
with
this
project
the
affordability
range.
Please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
for
the
range
between
50
to
80
will
range
anywhere
from
700
to
900
dollars
for
the
seniors
that
would
live
there
up
to
10.
So
the
benefit
to
that
is
any
senior
and
I'll
use
family
members
that
I
know
the
average
senior
will
get
a
Social
Security
check
from
700
to
$1,200.
AJ
So
with
that
7
or
$1,200,
a
senior
could
potentially
live
in
that
unit,
as
well
as
have
access
to
all
the
amenities
as
the
market
paying
residents.
So
we'll
flush
that
out
more
but
I
know
that
there
was
a
question
that
was
asked.
I,
don't
think
the
developer
gave
the
range.
Sometimes,
when
you
asked
about
affordability,
one
should
also
inquire.
AJ
I
spoke
to
pastors
pearl
Scurlock
and
for
those
of
you
that
were
around
for
the
1800
Oak
project,
I
think
we
had
a
total
of
maybe
five
or
six
meetings
at
your
church
and
I'm.
Asking
again,
would
you
please
open
the
doors
of
the
church
to
where
the
issues
that
were
brought
before
the
Commission
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
do
a
joint
meeting
with
both
developers,
where
we're
looking
paying
very
close
attention
to
the
construction
schedule
number
one.
AJ
In
addition
to
that
will
address
the
the
public
benefits.
One
of
the
things
that
came
out
of
our
meeting
with
the
folks
from
Siena
was
the
possibility
of
changing
the
timeframes
of
the
parking
meters,
so
obviously
with
the
impact
that
it
would
have
with
with
a
church.
I
think
that
it's
important
that
we
involve
all
the
stakeholders
in
the
area
I'm
trying
to
think.
If
there's
anything
else
at
the
meeting,
I
think
I
want
to
ask
the
developers
to
be
come
with
the
specifics
in
terms
of
how
this
project
will
expand
our
tax
base.
AJ
Just
given
the
fact
that
we
recently
had
a
referendum
that
that
that
increase
the
tax
base
for
all
of
the
residents
in
Evanston,
what
will
the
contribution
be
for
the
project?
In
addition
to
that,
I
would
like
for
you
to
outline
how
many
jobs
would
potentially
be
created
and
then
actual
breakdown
of
the
cost
for
units.
So,
in
my
conversation
with
Pastor,
stair,
Locke
I
hope
to
have
these
joint
meetings,
preferably
before
we
come
before
P
and
D
and
Scott.
One
is
that
when
is
the
first
date.