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A
If
we
can
get
started
since
this
is
a
joint
meeting,
we
do
typically
elect
a
cheer
for
the
overall
meeting.
We
can
first,
I
guess
start
with
a
quorum
for
each
of
the
for
both
the
plan
commission
and
the
zoning
board
of
appeals.
C
B
Remember,
macaulay
absent,
remember,
aravala,
absent,
remember,
deacon,
absent
member
president.
Okay,
we
have
a
quorum
four
of
seven.
A
D
D
F
I
would
like
to
nominate
care
cullen
of
the
zba
to
be
the
to
be
the
chair
of
the
of
the
joint
meeting.
A
H
D
F
D
D
G
Okay,
good
evening,
this
is
a
public
hearing
of
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
in
the
city
of
evanston
playing
commission.
The
zoning
ordinance
empowers
us
to
hear
references
from
the
city
council,
petitions
from
other
parties
for
variances
and
special
uses
and
appeals
from
the
decisions
of
the
zoning
administrator.
G
We
heard
testimony
from
those
in
attendance
and
then
make
formal
findings
of
fact,
based
on
the
evidence
presented,
which
consists
of
testimony
and
exhibits
and
on
our
knowledge
of
the
community.
We
then
either
make
a
determination
or
recommendation
to
the
city
council.
Testimony
is
taken
under
oath,
although
we
do
not
apply
to
strict
rules
of
evidence
and
procedures.
We
ask
that
you
keep
your
testimony
relevant
to
the
proposal
as
it
relates
to
the
standards
contained
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
G
When
you
testify,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
put
your
name
in
the
chat
so
that
we
can
identify
you
later.
Each
case
will
be
introduced
by
staff
and
a
list
of
documents
will
be
read
into
the
record.
Then
the
applicant
will
either
give
an
explanation
of
the
proposal
after
that.
G
F
I
moved
to
that.
We
conduct
this
joint
meeting
of
the
evanston
zba
and
plan
commission
electronically
via
zoom
due
to
the
covet
19
pandemic.
D
H
G
B
I
can
read
it
in
map
amendment
major
variations:
2030
greenwood
street
plan
development
case
21
p-a-l-n-d-0
and
zoning
board
of
appeals
case
21zmjb0019,
bohan
arnautovic
applicant
submits
for
a
zoning
ordnance
map
amendment
pursuant
to
city
code,
title
vi,
zoning
to
rezone
property
located
at
2030
greenwood
street
from
the
i2
general
industrial
district
to
the
mxe
mixed
use.
Employment
district.
The
applicant
also
requests
major
variations
for
the
following
21
zoning
units,
where
18
dwelling
units
are
permitted
and
building
height
of
force.
B
I
Yes,
my
name
is
josh
gross.
I'm
part
of
the
developmental
group
buoyant
who's.
Our
lead
developer
is
also
here
with
us,
but
I
will
be
presenting
the
proposed
structure
today
to
all
of
you.
If
that's
okay,
thank
you.
Would
you
like
to
explain
your
project?
Yes,
absolutely.
Would
it
be?
Okay,
if
I
share
my
screen,
is.
I
It's
currently
disabled
either.
I
Is
that
visible
to
everybody
right
now?
Yes,
excellent
perfect,
so,
as
I
mentioned,
my
name
is
josh
gross.
I
am
part
of
the
development
group
for
the
2030
greenwood
street
project
with
us.
We
have
our
lead
developer
buoyant
who
is
with
us,
but,
as
I
said,
I
will
be
taking
you
through
this
project
and
unless
there's
any
questions
before
we
get
started,
I
guess
we
can
dive
right
in
so
to
give
everyone
an
overview
on
what
our
proposal
is
for
this.
I
This
project
is
that
we're
looking
to
construct
a
multi-storied,
24-unit
apartment
complex,
this
complex
will
be
constructed
of
two
buildings,
building
a
which
will
be
at
the
north
end
of
the
bill
of
the
property
and
building
b,
which
will
subside
just
directly
behind
it.
We
have
some
renderings
that
I
can
show
you
a
little
next
next
few
slides,
so
you
can
get
a
good
visualization
of
that
of
the
24
units
that
we
were
proposing.
I
Three
of
these
units
will
be
one
bedroom.
Units
21
will
be
two
bedroom
units
and
we're
very
excited
to
be
a
part
of
the
city
of
evanston's,
affordable
housing
program
and
announce
that
we're
going
to
allocate
two
of
those
24
units
to
be
iho,
affordable
units.
In
addition
to
that,
we're
also
proposing
two
88
ada
accessible
units.
These
two
units
will
be
on
grade
level
and
fully
wheelchair
accessible.
So
we're
very
excited
to
be
a
part
of
that
program
as
well.
I
To
give
an
idea
of
the
total
size
of
the
structure
that
we're
looking
to
construct.
The
building
footprint
will
come
in
just
over
9
500
square
feet.
The
total
area,
which
also
includes
our
first
floor
parking
garage
which
is
completely
covered,
brings
the
total
area
of
the
of
the
structure
to
just
over
36
000
square
feet,
and
as
mentioned,
we
will
be
having
covered
parking,
and
with
this
we
are
bringing
our
total
parking
spots
up
to
39
from
previous
proposals,
which
were
slightly
less
our
apartment
sizes.
I
To
kind
of
give
a
paint
to
picture
will
range
between
600
feet
to
1250
square
feet
and
our
typical
rent,
as
of
right
now,
is
ranging
between
two
dollars
and
two
and
a
quarter
per
square
foot.
We're
also
excited
to
announce
that
we
are
planning
on
building
a
structure
that
is
eco-friendly
and
also
energy
efficient
for
those
unfamiliar
with
the
with
the
area.
This
is
the
current
state
of
the
property.
It
is
an
unused
empty
plot
of
land.
Basically,
this
is
this.
I
Is
it
and
to
give
you
an
overview
of
the
location,
it's
located
between
hartley
and
dodge
right
on
greenwood
street
to
our
east.
We
have
an
storage
facility
to
our
west.
We
have
another
apartment
unit
and
then
to
the
north.
We
have
residential
housing.
I
Now
before
we
get
into
the
renderings.
You
know
we
met
with
the
dapper
committee
two
weeks
ago
to
go
over
our
proposed
plan,
and
one
thing
that
we
really
wanted
to
address
to
them
was
the
buildings
that
we're
trying
to
create
are
ones
that
we
want
to
be
aesthetically,
pleasing
to
not
only
the
neighbors,
but
also
to
residents
that
we
are
looking
to
attract
with.
That
said,
we
wanted
to
create
something.
What
was
very
traditional,
but
also
had
some
modern
feels
to
it
to
keep
up
with
the
times.
I
As
mentioned,
we
want
to
create
a
building
that
is
eco-friendly
economic,
but
also
technologically
up
to
date,
so
we're
very
excited
to
pronounce
or
to
announce
our
our
structure
a
so
this
would
be
building
a
which
would
be
sitting
on
the
north
end
of
of
greenwood,
of
our
greenwood
property
right
here
is
where
greenwood
street
would
subside.
This
building
right
here
would
con
would
include
our
single
single
unit,
I'm
sorry
single
bedroom
units
as
well
as
two
bedroom
units.
This
is
also
where
our
ada
accessible
units
would
subside.
I
So
we
have
one
one:
one:
bedroom
and
one
two
bedroom
units
just
to
kind
of
give
an
overview
on
what
we're
looking
at
right
here
to
the
west
of
the
building
is
where
that
another,
I'm
sorry
apartment
complex,
is
located
here.
We
will
have
a
walkway
which
will
give
our
residents
and
the
neighbors
access
to
our
courtyard,
as
well
as
access
to
building
b
on
the
east
side
is
where
our
private
driveway
will
be
located,
and
if
we
take
a
quick
trip
down
there,
you
can
see
here
at
the
corner.
I
That
is
our
building
a
where
we
just
were
and
then
we're
driving
down
our
private
driveway.
One
thing
I
forgot
to
mention
previously
is
we
have
a
a
big
contribution
towards
greenery
for
this
property.
We
want
to
make
sure
it's
very
green,
very
aesthetically,
pleasing
to
not
only
our
our
residents
but
neighbors
guests,
everyone
who's
driving
down
greenwood,
but
as
you
travel
down
our
private
driveway,
one
thing
I
want
you
to
take
note
is
the
structure
of
building
b.
I
It
is
basically
built
on
three
vestibules
which
give
access
to
six
units,
so
this
is
where
18
of
the
24
units
will
be
located
and
the
other
important
part
that
we're
very
excited
about
is
all
of
the
parking
is
completely
covered.
So
we
will
have
tandem
parking
underneath
building
b,
making
all
of
our
parking
nearly
unvisible
from
the
street
view.
I
So
unless
you
are
specifically
looking
to
see
cars
and
tilt
your
head
at
a
specific
angle,
all
these
cars
will
be
completely
completely
covered.
They
stick
out
right
now,
just
for
the
renderings,
but
the
parking
spaces
are
large
enough
to
fit
two
full-size
cars,
so
we're
very
excited
about
that
as
we
move
on.
So
this
is
the
east,
so
on
the
west
side
of
the
building
facing
east,
this
would
be
the
front
side
of
building
b.
I
This
shadow
right
here
building
a
would
be
located
just
on
the
left
of
your
screen,
but
again
this
would
be
or
the
walkway
where
our
residents
will
have
access
to
the
front
of
their
buildings
as
well
as
have
access
to
the
courtyard
or
gazebo
park
benches,
which
will
also
be
open
to
to
neighbors
and
other
members
of
the
community
to
utilize.
I
This
is
a
bird's
eye
view
down
just
to
kind
of
get
an
idea
of
where
things
are
laying
out
and
how
the
property
and
buildings
will
sit
again.
Here
we
have
our
building
a
and
then
building
b
right
directly
behind
it.
As
you
can
see,
really
this
only
viewpoint
to
cars
would
be
very
slightly.
I
You
know
if
you're
coming
from
the
east
side
on
greenwood
street,
but
again
this
would
be
something
you
have
to
be
looking
about
and-
and
we
got
to
this
with
the
help
of
city
staff
and
members
of
the
dapper
community
damper
community
at
zoning,
and
it
was
a
great
recommendation.
I
think
it
really
frees
up
the
property
and
makes
it
look
very
nice.
I
I
Just
to
kind
of
give
an
overview
of
the
site
plan.
I
know
we're
not.
We
don't
need
to
go
into
this
in
too
much
depth
unless
someone
else
would
like
to
review
deeper,
but
just
to
kind
of
give
an
idea
of
where
everything's
located
you
can
see.
We've
got
greenwood
right
here.
Here's
building
a
building
b,
we'll
have
those
three
buildings
on
the
south
side.
I'm
sorry!
Yes,
on
the
south
side
of
the
property.
I
B
as
we
get
into
the
elevation,
so
building
a
and
building
b
will
actually
be
different
heights
building
b
because
it
has
the
underground.
I'm
sorry,
the
first
level
parking
will
sit
higher
than
building
a
building,
a
will
be
the
front-facing
structure.
I
So
really
anyone
that's
driving
down
the
street
any
neighbors
building
a
is,
essentially
all
anyone
will
be
able
to
see
when
you're
facing
the
property
straight
on
building
a
is
coming
in
at
just
under
31
feet,
which
keeps
it
in
par
with
most
of
the
other
structures
in
the
area
and
actually
slightly
shorter
than
several
as
well
as
we
go
on
and
look
through
building
a
so
this
would
be
looking
through
building
a
into
building
b
again,
since
we
have
that
parking
structure.
I
On
that
first
floor
building
b
is
coming
in
at
40
feet,
so
we've
got
basically
nine
feet
for
the
parking
garage
10
feet
for
this.
The
first
floor
of
apartments
so
floor,
two
and
four
three,
and
that
top
floor
will
be
nine
feet
and
then
our
architect
has
recommended
us
giving
us
about
a
two
feet:
height
lip
for
for
the
top
of
the
roof.
I
This
is
just
another
view
of
that
elevation,
so
you
can
see.
So
this
would
be
the
the
west
view
on
the
building
b.
The
parking
garage
would
would
basically
come
up
to
this
line
right
here
and
then
obviously
would
have
the
the
first
second
and
third
floor
of
apartments
sitting
on
top
and
then
here's
that
opposite
view.
So
the
east
elevation
so
again
that
parking
garage
coming
in
underneath
and
then
the
first
three
floors
of
parking
bringing
in
up
to
40
feet.
I
So
you
know,
one
thing
that
was
really
important
to
us
is
his
community.
His
family
is
is
being
neighborly,
so
when
we
attended
the
second
ward
meeting
back
in
february,
one
of
the
feedbacks
that
we
received
from
several
neighbors
was
that
concern
of
parking.
I
We
understood
that
parking
is
currently
and
has
been
an
issue
for
current
residents
at
the
time
or
current
residents
in
the
area
and
their
concern
for
how
bringing
on
you
know.
24
additional
units
to
the
area
would
affect
them,
as
mentioned,
we're
very
excited
about
the
recommendations
and
the
work
that
we've
done
with
with
the
city
team
to
come
up
with
the
current
plan
that
we
have,
which
has
increased
our
parking
to
39
spots.
I
Our
initial
plan
was
much
lower
than
we
brought
it
up
to
28
and
then,
with
this
first
floor,
parking
that
we've
come
up
with,
we
were
able
to
bring
it
up
to
39
spots,
which
is
actually
13
over.
What
is
what
is
required,
so
we
truly
believe
that
39
spots
for
24
units
with
amp
will
allow
us
for
ample
guest
parking
and
should
really
alleviate
any
concern
for
us,
our
residents
needing
to
utilize
street
parking,
public
parking
or
even
parking
spaces
provided
by
the
city.
Even
for
for
pay.
I
Our
goal
is
to
have
all
of
our
residents
all
of
our
residents
guests
being
able
to
park
on
our
facility
and
again
in
a
way
that
does
not
create
a
visual
nuisance,
any
noise
issues
or
or
any
any
traffic
hindrance
to
those
in
the
in
the
area
or
in
the
neighborhood.
I
The
other
concern
that
was
brought
up
was
traffic
congestion.
Obviously,
with
everything
going
on
right
now,
we
have
not
been
able
to
get
a
great
look
of
standard
pre-covered
traffic
patterns
because
we've
been
out
of
you
know
school's
been
out
for
quite
some
time,
but
to
kind
of
give
an
overall
a
view
on
how
our
tenants
typically
act,
those
that
occupy
our
buildings
that
we've
that
we've
constructed
are
typically
30
to
50
years
old.
I
They
are
working
individuals
and
right
now,
obviously
everybody's
I
should
say
everybody,
but
most
most
people
are
working
remotely,
so
the
need
to
travel
to
and
from
the
office
is
very
limited.
Our
thought,
though,
is
hopefully
once
things
return
back
to
normal,
and
hopefully
it
is
soon
because
these
individuals
are
working
in
offices.
Their
time
lapse
will
actually
not
really
conflict
with
the
that
of
the
school.
I
Typically,
most
people
are
leaving
our
complexes
in
our
buildings
between
seven
a.m
and
six,
seven
and
7
30
a.m,
and
now,
returning
until
after
after
normal
last
belt,
which
is
you
know
after
5
p.m,
and
believe
that
this
should
basically
not
conflict
with
that
8
a.m,
to
2
40
start
time
and
finish
time
for
for
the
high
school.
I
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
call
out
is
even
with
these
time
slots,
our
residents
will
be
leaving
as
people
are
coming
into
the
area
and
vice
versa,
at
the
close
of
school
and
close
of
business,
so
we're
hoping
that
it
doesn't
create
too
much
traffic
congestion
and
truly
believe
that
it
shouldn't
have
too
much
of
effect
in
addition
to
the
current
traffic
patterns,
as
we
are
joining
the
community
or
hope
to
join
the
community,
I
should
say
our
plan
is
to
be
one
with
the
with
the
with
the
neighbors.
I
We
want
to
be
someone
that
is
part
of
the
team
part
of
the
family
and
contributing
our
part.
We
understand
that
we
are
the
new
kids
on
the
block,
but
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
welcoming
to
everyone
and
hope
that
we
can
be
welcomed
by
by
those
that
are
currently
there
and
have
been
for
for
many
many
years
so
part
of
the
contributions
that
we
would
love
to
make.
I
In
addition
to,
you
know,
creating
creating
more
patrons
for
local
businesses,
adding
tax
benefits
for
the
city,
which
I
think
are
are
all
pretty.
You
know
the
obvious
ones,
but
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
unmute
it
right.
I'm
sorry.
I
Okay,
in
addition
to
those
what
we
are
proposing,
our
new
curbside
landscape,
we
are
proposing
currently
right
now
we're
estimating
about
nine
trees
being
added
to
greenwood
street
on
our
property
line,
and
this
is
to
offset
the
removal
of
one
tree
that
one
cottonwood
tree
that
would
need
to
come
down
due
to
access
for
our
private
driveway.
I
In
addition
to
that,
we
are
wanting
to
make
a
thousand
dollar
contribution
to
the
city
of
evanston,
to
plant
new
trees
and
greenery
at
their
discretion,
also
to
help
out
with
the
neighborhood,
because
we
are
aware
that
parking
has
been
in
the
past.
We.
G
G
I
See
as
said,
we'd
like
to
make
a
thousand
dollar
contribution
for
parking
in
the
area,
in
addition
to
that,
after
completion
of
our
project,
we'd
like
to
replace
all
of
our
public
sidewalks
to
make
that
clean,
smooth
and
grade
level
for
for
pedestrians
as
they
walk
through
the
area
and
then
in
addition
to
that,
as
mentioned
previously,
our
two
iho
affordable
units
and
our
two
ada
accessible
units
and
then
the
reason
why
we're
all
here.
I
So
the
reason
why
we're
here
is
because
the
team
of
2030
greenwood
is
currently
seeking
a
rezoned
property
from
that
i2
that
we're
currently
zoned
as
to
the
mxe.
I
This
would
allow
us
to
construct
this
residential
property
and
then,
after
that,
we
are
looking
for
approval
on
our
24
dwelling
units,
in
addition
and
then
finally,
approval
on
the
height
of
building
b,
which
is
currently
four
stories
at
40
feet
where
the
code
calls
for
three
stories
at
41
feet.
So
that
brings
us
to
my
conclusion
for
what
I've,
what
I've
presented
so
far.
Here's
the
information
of
our
of
our
head
developer,
boyan.
I
G
A
A
E
A
This
is
for
a
single
lot
within
this
area.
It
this
particular
lot
was
actually
part
of
the
adjacent
lot
to
the
east,
but
was
subdivided
I
believe
in
2018
or
2019.
So
it's
just
this
property
that
is
affected
by
the
rezoning.
As
you
can
see,
it
is
surrounded
by
i2
zoning
to
the
east
and
south,
and
a
little
bit
further
to
the
west,
to
the
immediate
west
is
mxe,
which
is
what
is
proposed
for
the
new
zoning
and
to
the
north
is
r2,
which
is
low
density,
residential.
A
So
the
i2
district
or
general
industrial
is
basically
the
mid-range
industrial
manufacturing
district
for
evanston.
The
purpose
is
to
provide
sites
for
some
light
manufacturing
light
industrial
uses
under
controls
that
minimize
any
adverse
effects
on
properties
in
nearby
residential
business
or
commercial
districts.
The
proposed
mxc
or
mixed
mixed-use
employment
district.
A
A
A
There
is
some
additional
setback
that
is
required
within
the
i2,
but
that
speaks
more
so
to
the
uses
that
are
proposed
and
we
wouldn't
want
those
to
have
a
greater
impact
on
the
surrounding
areas
that
may
be
residential
or
a
business
district.
That
is
a
less
intense
use.
H
K
I
have
a
question.
Excuse
me,
I
have
a
question
for
the
developer.
It's
about
how
the
parking
works.
I
understand
the
number
of
spaces,
but
how
does
it
if,
unless
you're,
I
understand
how
tandems
work
also
and
you
they're,
usually
both
spaces
front
and
back,
are
assigned
to
one
party
you
know
because
they
control
both
spaces.
So
if
they're
not
assigned
to
one
party
which
may
be
unlikely
considering
the
unit
mix,
how
does
it
work?
How
does
it
work
with
with
multiple,
multiple
users?
K
I
Thank
you
so
the
way
the
the
way
the
parking
is
planned,
so
each
unit
will
be
assigned
a
parking
space
and
basically
a
visitor's
parking
space.
So
the
idea
is
that
the
residence
parking
space
will
be
the
one
furthest
in
so
furthest
to
the
west,
and
then
their
visitors
parking
space
will
be
that
one
that
has
easy
access
in
and
out.
So
the
idea
is
you're
not
going
to
have
any
visitors
coming
to
you
if
you're
not
home.
I
So
when
you
pull
in
and
then
your
visitors
come
in,
they
can
pull
in
right
behind
you.
They
will
most
likely
be
leaving
either
at
the
same
time
as
you
or
leaving
after
you.
So
then
they
have
that
free
access
to
come
in
and
out
and
then
the
resident
will
then
be
able
to
enter
and
exit
as
they
please
their
spot.
K
I
Correct
yeah,
so
now
so
essentially,
what
we're
doing
is
the
idea
is
to
have
a
very
small
fee
per
parking.
The
idea
for
that
is
to
hopefully,
basically
eliminate
the
need
for
parking.
It's
not
to
have
them
go
park
elsewhere.
The
idea
is
that
we
have
enough
spots
to
basically
cover
everybody.
What
we've
seen
with
our
other
properties
is
that
not
everyone
has
a
car,
not
everyone
is
using
utilizing
a
car
these
days.
I
So
we
believe
that
that
this
should
be
enough
parking
spaces
for
residents
and
then
with
that
extra
parking
spot
allocated
them
to
you
know,
since
they
are
two
bedrooms,
if
they
have
a
you
know
a
partner
or
a
lift,
some
a
roommate,
whoever
the
case
may
be,
they
will
be
able
to
access
that
second
spot,
so
whether
it's
a
guest
parking
space
or
their
second,
their
second
roommate,
second
resident
that
that's
where
that
second
spot
will
be
allocated.
So
realistically
there
will
be.
I
You
know
a
few,
a
few
apartments
that
may
not
have
a
parking
allocated,
but
in
our
experience
again
the
we've
we've
had
zero
zero
buildings
that
had
a
hundred
percent
need
for
parking
per
resident.
G
So
my
question
to
piggyback
on
commissioner
halleck's
remark
is
the
parking
spaces
are
for
purchase
right.
They
are
for
for
rent
for.
G
I
Right
so
every
parking
space-
it's
not
a
it's
not
a
free-for-all,
so
essentially
every
every
resident
will
be
assigned
to
space.
So,
for
example,
you
know
a
resident
who's
in
apartment,
101
gets
assigned
parking,
space,
1
and
their
guest
spot
is
1a,
and
then
you
know
102
gets
spot
2
and
2a,
so
on
and
so
forth.
I
So
if
someone
were
to
park,
let's
say
you
know
someone
off
the
street
or
a
resident,
a
neighbor
in
the
area
or
someone
who's
new
to
the
area
who
doesn't
even
live
in
the
complex,
pulls
up
behind
a
resident
and
blocks
them
in
it's
technically
illegal
parking.
It's
trespassing
because
we're
not
a
public
public
parking
garage.
We
are
not
taking
outside
parking.
The
parking
is
strictly
for
our
residents.
I
They
would
notify
management.
We
would
notify
a
tow
truck
no
different
than
if
it
happened
anywhere
in
the
city
of
evanston
in
the
city
of
chicago,
so
leave
lincoln
wherever
the
case
may
be,
each
person
has
allocated
a
specific
spot
and
a
specific
guest
spot.
Anyone
that's
unauthorized
parking
in
those
is
is
suitable
to
get
towed.
I
G
I
It
would
be,
we
have
a
24-hour
management
team.
Yes,
so
we
would
be.
We
would
be
on
site
very
quickly
to
manage
and
handle
any
issues
that
could
come
up.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
C
I
I
Yeah
so
they're
parking
they've
got
the
two
ada
spots
right
outside
then
there's
another
long
parking
space
which
will
be
utilized
for
guest
parking
and
then
again,
depending
on
how
the
layout
of
the
of
the
apartments
are
and
who
needs
parking.
We're
actually
going
to
be
loading.
The
residents
that
need
parking
and
building
b
so
building
a
the
idea
is
that
building
a
will
be
for
residents
that
most
likely
do
not
need
parking.
K
Yeah
one
one
of
the
other
another
question
about
the
units
I
the
ones
and
two
you
have
ones
and
two
bedrooms.
I
just
wondered
if,
because
some
of
the
comments
that
I
read
in
the
material
was
that
maybe
dapper
I
don't
know,
recommended
that
to
lower
the
total
unit
count,
you
could
have
had
three
bedrooms
a
couple
of
three
bedroom
units
in
there
and
I'm
not
sure
that
works
with
the
plans
that
you
have.
But
where
did
the
ones
in
two
program
come
from?
I
Yeah
I
mean
our
goal
is
to
one
you
know,
so
our
original
plan
prior
to
all
of
this
was
to
actually
create.
I
believe
it
was
36
units,
and
then
you
know,
after
working
with
city
city
staff,
we
got
down
to
the
24.
We
felt
that
that
was
the
the
best
number,
the
least
dense
number,
with
the
one
that
utilized
the
space
and
the
property
to
the
to
the
maximum
capacity.
I
So
essentially
the
the
one
and
two
bedrooms
are
there,
because
it
allows
us
to
be
an
economical
at
an
economical
price
point.
It
fits
the
demographic
that
we're
trying
to
attract
to
this
to
this
property,
but
also,
you
know
not
to
sound
like
a
business
person,
but
the
financials
make
more
sense
for
those
types
of
properties,
those
types
of
bedrooms
and
apartment
sizes.
F
Apologies.
Thank
you.
I
have
a
question
for
staff.
I'm
interested
in
this
situation,
where
the
this
lot
was
subdivided
from
the
lot
to
the
east.
I
understand
from
a
like.
You
know,
from
a
legal
lot
line
perspective
that
that
happened,
but
from
a
zoning
perspective,
why
is
the
existing
building
from
that
lot
from
that
from
from
the
lot
to
the
east?
Why
isn't
that
being
taken
into
account
for
this
lot
right?
F
It
wasn't
like
when,
when
that
building
was
that
building
was
built
right,
zoning
was
used
not
only
for
that
was
not
only
used
for
that
lot,
but
for
the
entire
for
the
entire
parcel
right
and
they
were,
it
was
owned
collectively
and
so
now,
they're
just
selling
off
their
side
yard
and
trying
to
treat
it
as
a
separate
zoning
lot
like
what's
what's
the
mechanism
for
separating
the
side
yard
from
a
zoning
perspective,.
B
I
can
speak
to
that,
so
it
was
subdivided
peter
and
the
process
for
the
subdivision
to
take
place.
You
have
to
make
sure
that
the
the
new
lot
is
compliant
with
the
zoning
ordinance
so
that
lot
to
the
east.
B
You
know
I
wasn't
part
of
the
subdivision,
but
I'm
assuming
because
it
made
its
way
through
and
got
approved
that
that
lot
on
its
own
without
the
lot
in
question
now
is
zone
and
compliant
okay.
So
so
the
last
meets
all
the
requirements
for
the
iq.
F
So
it
passed
it
passed
the
city's
review
from
a
zoning
perspective
that
the
lot
to
the
east
is
a
is
a
fully
functioning
separate
zoning
lot,
and
so
that
frees
up
this
lot
for
this
development.
Correct.
D
L
E
Other
questions,
I
do
have
a
question
just
again
for
city
staff.
Is
there
any
downside,
as
far
as
the
city
is
concerned,
to
losing
a
parcel
that
is
designated
i2?
Is
there
any
concern
about
possible
expansion
from
other
buildings
that,
in
the
area,
the
commercial
light
use
that
might
be
blocked
off,
or
is
that
not
a
concern.
A
I
can
speak
to
that.
Generally
speaking,
we
have
not
really
seen
much
in
the
way
of
expansion
of
existing
businesses
that
are
in
the
i2.
That
would
have
at
this
point
probably
a
satellite
location,
as
there
are
no
other
businesses
that
are
within
that
stretch,
and
also
we've
seen,
particularly
in
the
the
west
end
manufacturing
district.
A
There
are
a
lot,
a
pretty
broad
variety
of
uses
that
are
there
now,
probably
to
the
point,
where
they're
starting
to
look
a
little
bit
more
like
a
mixed
light,
manufacturing
or
an
mxc
kind
of
district,
but
we
still
have
some
of
the
the
mainstays
that
are
there
optimally.
A
We
would
be
doing
a
greater
expanse
of
rezoning,
but
that
would
really
come
along
with
a
comprehensive
plan
and
a
full
kind
of
revamping
and
another
look
at
this
particular
area
and
what
uses
are
there?
What
uses
are
likely
to
be
there
in
the
future?
So
with
this
particular
use?
There
really
wasn't
a
concern
that
we
would
be
taking
away
a
much
needed
i2
zone
site
and
that
the
mxe
does
allow
for
some
similar
uses.
A
It's
just.
They
may
be
required
to
have
a
special
use
in
order
to
operate
and
given
where
it's
located
adjacent
to
a
low-density
residential
district
mxe
does
make
a
little
bit
more
sense
than
something
that
provides
for
heavier
manufacturing.
M
M
If
I
had
to
go
back
in
time,
I
would
I
would
consider
this
space
you
know
is
a
is
a
really
good
opportunity
for
another
kind
of
green
space,
and
it
it's
a
little
concerning
to
me
that
this
project
would
get
get
rid
of
that.
You
know
there.
There
is
detailed
in
the
packet
about
how
the
two
mature
native
trees
are
coming
down
and
that
this
project
will
have
a
significant.
M
You
know
impact
on
that,
and
it's
also
I'm
also
noting
that
you
know,
with
the
building
footprint
of
90
540
square
feet,
you're,
just
underneath
the
threshold
for
this
project
to
be
subject
to
the
green
building
ordinance
at
10
000
square
feet.
M
I
Absolutely
yes,
thank
you.
So
the
actual
only
tree
that
will
be
coming
down
is
the
one
located
on
the
east
side
of
the
property,
and
that
would
be
to
make
room
for
that
private
driveway,
the
one
the
other
large
cottonwood
on
the
west
side
of
the
property
is
actually
on
our
neighbor's
property
line
it
just
overhangs
on
ours.
I
So
really
we
would
not
be
asking
it
to
come
down
just
for
some
some
trimming
just
so
that
we
can
make
way
for
our
obviously
our
structure
and
then,
as
far
as
the
sustainability
and
the
greenery
I
mean
we
are
trying
to
make
a
a
very
conscious
effort
and
a
substantial
investment
to
the
property
to
bring
a
lot
of
that
greenery
back.
We
understand
that
it
is
it's
it's
a
it's
a
very
open,
green
space.
It's
a
field,
that's
that's!
I
Basically
it
and
it
does
have
some
trees
on
that
west
side,
west
side
of
the
property.
I
So,
in
addition
to
that,
we
want
to
bring
in
additional
trees
additional
plants
additional
butchery
to
really
bring
it
to
life,
bring
it
to
to
have
some
purpose
to
have
that
some
life
and
just
really
make
it
one
curb
appeal,
for
you
know
our
our
future
tenants,
but
as
well
as
for
the
the
neighborhood
and
then,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
in
the
dapper
meeting,
the
goal
for
the
courtyard
along
the
west
side
is
to
be
open
to
the
public.
We're
gonna
have
a
gazebo.
We're
gonna
have
park
benches.
I
By
no
means
are
we
putting
up
fences
gates
and
keypads.
This
is
something
that
we
want
to
make
sure
people
take
advantage
of,
especially
if
we're
gonna
put
as
much
of
an
investment
into
the
property
as
possible
in
the
outdoor
space.
We
want
to
make
sure
it's
getting
used.
So
that's
something
that,
as
far
as
the
the
greenery
goes,
and
as
far
as
the
sustainability
I
mean
everything
that
we're
doing
internally
in
the
building
is
going
to
be
eco-friendly.
I
We're
going
to
be
have
high
efficiency,
all
led
lighting
everything's,
going
to
be
new,
basically
state-of-the-art,
which
is,
you
know,
run
on
low
energy,
high
efficiency.
So
the
goal
is
to
be
something
that
is,
you
know
not
just
sucking
energy
and
not
wasting
wasting.
You
know
valuable
resources,
but
one
that's
low
cost
to
our
residents
to
our
tenants
and
basically
something
that
that
is
valuable
to
the
neighborhood
and
to
the
community.
I
So
what
our
plan
is
for
the
east
side,
because
that's
where
the
storage
facility
is
because
we
only
have
that
five
foot,
variance
that
we
have
to
work
on.
I'm
sorry,
five-way
setback
that
we
have
to
work
on.
Obviously
we
can't
we
can't,
you
know
plant
very
large
trees,
but
the
idea
is
to
it's
a
still
plant
greenery
there
that
can
withstand
the
thresholds
that
that
were
given
and
withstand
the
barriers
that
we
have,
while
still
allowing
access
to
still
allowing
our
neighbors
access
to
their
building.
I
Should
they
need
tuck,
pointing
repairs
or
whatever
the
case
may
be.
So
you
know
with
any
project,
there's
always
challenges
and
always
obstacles
that
we
have
to
overcome.
That
would
just
be
another
one
that
we
would
work
with
our
landscape
architect,
as
well
as
those
that
were
purchasing
the
the
greenery
and
trees
and
shrubbery
from
to
to
make
sure
we're
putting
species
and
and
and
greenery
that
that
can
withstand
and
have
longevity
in
that
space.
B
Max
that
lot
line
to
the
east
is
also
in
a
utility
easement,
so
it
really
kind
of
limits
the
plant
material
you
could
put
in
there
just
the
long-term
feasibility,
if
the
utility
company
needed
to
dig
that
up
for
some
reason.
K
Just
along
the
lines
of
sustainability,
you've
got
a
lot
of
paving
because
of
the
drive
that
goes
along
the
one
side
of
the
site.
Would
you
consider,
even
in
exchange
instead
of
some
other
benefits
that
you're
offering?
Would
you
consider
permeable
pavers.
I
G
M
But
chair,
I
think
members,
jordan
had
a
question.
C
H
H
I
I
Is
this
coming
through
perfect,
so
our
trash
will
be
actually
located
here
and
here
that's
our
current
plan
for
trash
dumpsters
and
then
the
driveway
is
actually
25
feet
wide,
which
will
give
a
dumpster
and
I'm
sorry
trash
pickup
trucks.
Then
enough
room
to
come
in
they'll,
be
able
to
back
in
our
dumpsters
will
be
on
on
wheels,
so
they'll
be
able
to
pull
them
out
of
their
their
little
compartments,
pull
them
in
remove
the
trash
and
haul
it
away.
I
Yeah,
basically,
exactly
does
that
cover
your
answer,
your
question
mm-hmm
pretty
straightforward
and
I'm
sorry.
The
second
question
was.
I
No,
so
actually
the
goal
is
to
not
take
up
any
deliveries
parking
spaces
on
greenwood.
The
goal
is
for
all
deliveries
to
take
place
actually
on
our
private
driveway.
So
the
goal
is
they
pull
in
again,
we
do
have
a
long
driveway.
So
the
thought
is
that
your
typical
ups
fedex
mail
person
will
not
be
hauling
up
one
dolly
and
then
walking
the
whole
distance,
because
that
is
a
pretty
long
distance.
I
So
the
goal
would
be
for
each
person
to
stop
at
each
building
essentially
make
their
deliveries
move
on
to
the
next
vestibule
and
make
the
appropriate
deliveries
there.
So
all
the
deliveries
will
be
taking
place
on
here.
The
goal
is
to
take
up
zero
driveway
space,
zero
parking
space
on
greenwood
to
take
away
from
residents,
public
trap,
transportation,
public
public
driving.
C
Did
we
lose
any
diagonal
parking
on
greenwood
with
the
proposed
curb
cut.
I
E
G
J
Yes,
yes,
I
live
at
the.
Can
you
hear
me
yes,
ma'am
go
ahead,
please.
L
J
I
live
on
the
1400
block
of
gray
and
I've
been
there
since
1962
and
it's
very
dense
when
the
students
come
and
you
can't
even
it's
like
a
bottleneck
and
it
takes
forever
to
travel
in
that
area
during
the
day
between,
like
eight
in
the
morning,
to
about
nine
and
then
from
four
to
f
to
three
to
about
five
four
of
five
o'clock.
Also,
we
have
a
problem
with
parking.
We
have
to
pay
for
permit
parking
because
there's
not
enough
parking
even
on
our
block.
J
We
have
to
park
on
greenwood,
so
we're
going
to
be
out
of
parking
when
they
come
there
and
then
also
there's
an
area
that
that's
a
bottleneck
with
density
because
there's
a
apartment:
okay,
they're
talking
about
bringing
in
apartments
and
we're
a
residential
area
with
kids
and
everything
like
that,
so
they're
going
to
be
bringing
in
one
and
two
bedroom
apartments
with
younger
people.
So
that's
a
concern
of
the
community
too,
and
we're
concerned
about
that
and
we're
also
dealing
with
gentrification.
J
You
know
it's
a
predominantly
african-american
neighborhood
and
basically
most
of
the
wealth
in
this
country
has
been
male
distributed
to
white
people.
So
when,
basically,
they
come
in,
there's
going
to
be
another
25
units,
and
I'm
going
to
tell
you
right
now
when
they
move
in
a
lot
of
times,
they
don't
even
speak
to
us.
So
it's
very,
very
I'm
bringing
that
up
because
I'm
trying
to
be
authentic.
I
didn't
want
to
bring
it
up
at
first,
but
it
is
a
concern
of
our
neighborhood.
J
You
know
that
is
a
concern
and
then
one
more
thing.
Someone
asked
a
question
about
why
there
was
the
people
that
lived
to
the
east
of
this
did
not
build.
Well,
when
I
was
growing
up
the
guy
that
that
owned
that
building
with
the
storages
he
offered
it
to
us
free
because
it's
a
sinkhole
and
that's
why
no
one
built
on
there
because
there's
a
lot
of
water
there.
J
It's
a
sinkhole
area
and
I'm
just
bringing
up
a
lot
of
different
things
because
being
there
since
1962,
I'm
kind
of
aware
of
the
changing
the
demographics,
the
traffic
and
it's,
I
would
ask
that
you
guys
do
a
study
on
the
traffic,
because
it
is
really
highly
congested
during
the
day,
while
the
students
are
there
and
there's
no
parking.
That's
why
we
need
permits
to
park
over
there,
so
we
already
taxed
with
parking
so
when
they
come
in
and
they
get
rid
of
some
of
the
parking.
There's
gonna
be
an
issue,
sir.
I
Would
you
like
to
respond?
Yes,
thank
you,
hi
nicolette.
Thank
you
for
your
comment.
I
don't
know
if
you
saw
the
earlier
part
of
my
presentation,
but
I
do
remember
you
from
the
meeting
at
the
ward
back
in
february,
so
I
appreciate
your
continued
participation,
but
so,
as
far
as
the
parking
goes,
we
are
allocating
39
parking
spaces
for
our
24
24
apartments,
so
our
initial
plan
was
actually
far
less
and
it
was
actually
a
parking
lot
that
was
going
to
be
completely
exposed
to
the
public.
I
So
it's
actually
with
the
recommendation
of
the
city
and
the
city
staff
that
we've
been
working
with
throughout
this
who's
who's
been
actually
fantastic
and
has
made
a
lot
of
recommendations
on
the
neighborhood's
behalf
who,
where
we
came
to
this
this
current
proposal,
so
our
hope
and
thought
is
that
the
additional
spots
that
we're
proposing
so
the
total
of
39,
which
is
actually
13
over
code,
will
actually
limit
any
need
for
our
residents
to
seek
parking
outside
of
our
of
our
of
our
complex.
That
goes
for
residents.
I
That
goes
for
their
guests
as
well,
and
as
far
as
the
congestion
goes,
as
mentioned,
our
typical
demographic
for
our
our
buildings
and
buildings.
I
We
construct
are
on
the
older
side,
and
I
say
that
being
in
that
demographic,
so
it's
that
30
to
50,
year
olds
and
typically
as
of
right
now,
you
know
most
people
are
working
from
home,
they're
working
via
zoom
and
remotely
so
the
traffic
the
traffic
pattern
should
be
should
be
considerably
lighter,
but
once
things
do
return
back
to
normal,
we
see
that
most
of
these
people
are
leaving
before
seven
or
around
seven
o'clock
and
coming
back
after
after
closing
bell
hours.
I
So
the
idea
is
that
most
of
this
should
not
coincide
with
the
typical
traffic
patterns
of
students
coming
and
leaving
the
high
school,
and
then
on
top
of
that,
the
idea
is
that
our
traffic
patterns
would
actually
be
opposite
of
that
of
the
high
school.
I
And
then,
as
far
as
our
neighborhoods,
you
know
we
wanna,
like
I
said
you
know
we
one
of
my
biggest
values,
one
of
buoyance
biggest
values
is
neighbor.
Is
his
neighborhood,
it's
community,
it's
family,
that's
something
we're
all
about.
We
will
be
reading
all
the
applications
of
all
all
potential
applicants
for
the
building
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
something.
I
That's
you
know
family,
it's
friendly,
it's
it's
something
that
we
can
all
be
a
part
of,
so
we're
going
to
do
our
very
best
to
make
sure
that
all
of
our
tenants
are
people
that
that
are
are
someone
that
we
respect
and
respect
their
values
and
they
respect
ours
and
want
to
be
one
with
the
community.
So
that
that's
our
goal
for
that.
I
Obviously,
I
can't
speak
to
the
people
that
we
haven't
met
yet
or
received
their
applications
for,
but
I
want
you
to
know
that
our
goal
is
to
create
a
community
that
is,
that
is
part
of
the
existing
community,
and
hopefully
you
guys
will
embrace
us
and
then
our
community
will
also
become
part
of
the
a
part
of
the
current.
The
current
neighborhood.
J
Okay,
the
sinkhole,
however
they're
going
to
deal
with
that
water.
That's
coming
that's
going
to
be
coming
in
from
or
that's
all
this
water.
I
Yep,
so
we
have
civil
engineers,
we've
got
a
structural
engineer.
We've
got
every
single
engineer
under
under
the
sun,
working
on
this
project,
where
we
have
created
plans
which
we've
presented
to
to
dapper
and
we'll
be
continuing
to
present
to
the
city,
which
should
alleviate
any
water
problems.
We
have
underground
sewage,
we've
got
bellies
that
will
be
absorbing
the
water
and
for
drainage,
we'll
be
accessing
points
for
the
the
the
current
city
city
pipelines.
So
that
way,
we
can
make
sure
that
everything
is
by
code.
I
Everything
is
buy
safe
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I'll
say
this
selfishly.
The
last
thing
last
thing
we
want
is
any
issues
our
own
on
our
own
property,
which
causes
damage
to
our
building.
So
therefore,
we're
gonna
make
sure
we're
doing
this,
the
right
way
and
inevitably
making
sure
it's
safe
for
the
rest
of
the
community
and
the
neighbors.
B
N
N
I'm
joe
von
branson,
I'm
sorry
nice
to
meet
you.
I
had
concerns
with
the
property
actually
kind
of
like
it's
dwarfing
like
we're
the
little
dwarfs,
and
you
know
like
it's
just
so
big
so
immaculate
and
I
just
feel,
like
you
know
it's
kind
of
like
it
was
mentioned
before
it's
an
imposing
type
of
property,
and
so
another
thing
I
had
is
as
far
as
screening
like
for
your
renters
and
things
of
that
store.
I
have
children
and
we're
talking
about
maybe
50
people
how
many
about
40
something
adults.
I
Understood
understood
I'll
answer,
I'll
answer
the
second
question
first,
and
the
answer
is
absolutely
yes:
we
will
screen
and
do
background
checks
of
all
of
our
tenants.
I
And
again
I
will
say
this
selfishly
so
that
way
you
understand,
it
is,
in
our
benefit
to
make
sure
we're
not
bringing
in
tenants
that
are
destructive,
that
are
criminals
in
a
sense
that
will
cause
chaos
or
anarchy
in
any
type
of
way,
because
the
last
thing
we
want
to
do
is
create
damage
to
our
own
building
so
and
therefore
we're
going
to
do
certain
things
to
make
sure
that
we
are
bringing
in
the
correct
people,
people
that
are
respectful
people
that
have
good
values
again,
that
people
that
that
we
believe
will
be
good
tenants,
good
neighbors
within
our
building,
as
well
as
to
those
of
the
community.
I
So
by
saying
that,
yes,
the
goal
is
to
create
people
to
create
tenants
that
will
be
respectful
to
to
you
guys
as
neighbors.
So
the
idea
that
you
are
scared
for
your
children
says
a
lot
about
you
that
you
are
probably
a
very
good
parent,
but
I
hope
that
we
can
relieve
those
stress
to
let
you
know
that
that
you
are
in
good
hands.
I
We
are
going
to
be
doing
the
things
that
need
to
be
done
to
make
sure
that
we
are
protecting
the
community
protecting
our
people,
our
residents,
as
well
as
those
in
the
neighborhood
and
then
as
far
as
the
the
size
of
the
building,
the
the
building
that
you
actually
are
going
to
see
the
most
is
building
a
that's,
the
one
that
sits
at
the
front
of
the
property
that
one
is
actually
only
going
to
be
31
feet
tall,
so
that's
actually
going
to
be
shorter
than
most
of
the
buildings
and
some
of
the
single
family
homes
across
the
street.
I
So
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sorry,
don't
apologize
this
one
jumped
in.
So
it's
actually
going
to
be
on
par
with
a
lot
of
the
buildings
in
the
area
and
that
larger
building
will
actually
be
pretty
hidden
in
comparison.
It's
one
of
those
things
that,
from
the
right
angle,
you'll
be
able
to
see
it,
but
for
those
walking
on
on
greenwood
from
those
from
your
homes,
you
really
shouldn't
get
much
of
a
view
of
building
b,
because
it's
going
to
be
set
back
behind
building
a
which
again
will
take
up.
N
Okay
and
how
close
is
the
the
building
on
greenwood
to
the
street,
to.
N
I
It
would
be
25
feet
back
from
the
street,
so
whatever
that's
that's
the
variance
that
it's
allowed.
So
we
are
making
sure
we're
following
all
all
all
rules
and
regulations.
G
L
N
I
But
it
does
no.
I
understand
I
understand
what
you're
saying
on
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
can't
speak
to
how
the
building
will
affect
the
sunlight,
because
I
don't
know
where
it
is
in
respect
to
your
building.
But
again,
what
I
would
say
is
it
is
in
line
with
the
neighboring
buildings
and
it's
actually
shorter
than
the
neighboring
building
to
our
west.
So
whatever,
however,
your
building
would
be
affected
by
the
our
neighbor
to
the
west.
It
would
be
better
than
that.
N
L
N
E
N
D
N
Well,
they
look
like
me.
Will
we
see
that?
Because
I
mean
you
can
say
that
right
now,
but
I
just
feel
like
there
needs
to
be
some
type
of
internal
agreement
that
you're
not
because
eventually,
what's
gonna
happen,
is
we're
going
to
move
out
we're
going
to
be
pushed
out.
You
may
not
see
it
like
that,
but
historically
that's
what
happens
when
units
like
yours,
move
across
the
street.
I
No
and
I
100
understand
your
concern
when
I
say
that
our
target
demographic-
it's
it's
not
that
we're
targeting
these
people,
this
type
of
age
group,
that's
just
what
we
found
has
has
gravitated
to
these
types
of
buildings
that
we
build,
and
it's
specifically
age
group.
It's
it's
like.
I
said
it's
30
to
50
year
olds
and
it's
it's
working
individuals
as
far
as
race
class,
anything
else,
gender
that
is
kind
of.
D
I
Not
up
to
us
it's
illegal
for
us
to
to
determine
that
and
say
we're
only
going
for
a
certain
race,
a
certain
gender,
a
certain
demographic.
We
are
open
to
applicants
that
that
meet
our
criteria,
and
that
is
that
they
are.
You
know
they
pass
a
background
check.
D
I
You
know
they
are
able
to.
You
know
financially,
afford
the
the
apartments
that
we're
renting
and
again,
because
we
are
trying
to
be
on
the
economical
side,
we're
hoping
that
this
opens
it
up
to
as
many
people
as
possible.
I
So
right
now
we
are
looking
at
about
two
dollars
to
two
dollar
two
and
a
quarter
per
square
foot
for
rent,
which
is
what's
your
square
footage.
Our
one
bedrooms
are
going
to
be
approximately
650
square
feet.
Our
two
bedrooms
will
be
about
just
over
1200
square
feet.
I
A
month,
no,
not
three,
two,
because
it's
about
two
dollars
and
a
quarter,
I'm
rounding
it
off.
Okay!
Well,
that's
a
big
round!
You're!
Making
me
look
bad!
Then,
okay,.
G
G
N
O
Just
to
say
something,
nicole,
I'm
boy,
I'm
the
developer.
You
will
see
me
there
every
day,
you're.
D
G
G
Let
me
move
on,
what's
your
name,
you
did
you
put.
A
L
Q
Greenwood
directly
across
the
street-
and
I
do
have
some
concerns
hello
nikki.
My
concerns
is
of
course
any
time
you
have
rental.
You
have
not
the
same
concerns
as
you
have
with
homeowners.
Homeowners
have
a
tendency
to
show
pride
in
ownership.
Q
Renters
are
there
only
for
a
short
period
of
time
and,
as
nikki
pointed
out,
she's
been
here
her
family
since
the
60s
my
family
has
been
here
since
the
80s.
We
now
have
people
who
are
aging,
we
have
people
who
are
disabled.
We
have
all
kind
of
things
going
on
that.
Those
of
us
who
have
been
here
invested
in
this
community
for
a
long
time.
Q
We
recognize
there
is
a
lot
of
concern
for
the
parking,
but
we
have
come
to
recognize
that,
just
as
far
as
a
matter
of
common
courtesy
I
park
in
front
of
my
house
you
park
in
front
of
your
house
so
on
and
so
forth.
We
have
come
to
be
able
to
live
with
the
businesses
in
the
area
because
they're
here
monday,
through
friday,
the
weekends
they're
gone.
We
have
our
peace
and
tranquility
the
weekend.
Q
Now
you
have
this
large
apartment
complex
with
renters,
with
their
run
over
guests
on
the
weekend
and
you're
talking
about
oh
everybody's,
going
to
have
a
space.
Okay,
now
you're
going
to
have
parties
whatever
going
on
over
there
you're
going
to
have
all
these
people
walking
around
that
nobody
in
the
area
is
familiar
with.
We
are
familiar
with
our
neighbors.
We
are
familiar
with
the
faces
and
no
disrespect
to
you.
The
builders
you're
looking
for
a
monetary
game,
we're
looking
for
continued
peace
of
mind.
Q
This
is
not
being
taken
into
consideration
when
you
pull
a
complex
of
that
size
in
this
small
residential
area.
If
you
look
here
on
greenwood,
there
are
five
houses
period.
You
have
a
few
houses
on
gray
on
each
side
of
the
street.
You
have
houses
over
to
hartree,
but
now
you're
going
to
be
inundated
greenwood
with
renters
and
it's
all
for
financial
gain.
We
all
want
a
piece
of
the
rock.
We
all
want
financial
freedom,
but
my
concern
is
you're.
Q
Putting
too
many
people
in
a
small
area
and
clusters
of
people
breeds
contentment,
especially
people
who
don't
have
pride
of
ownership
because
they're
renting,
okay,
you
sign
or
a
one
or
a
two
year
lease
then
you're
gone.
Okay,
we've
been
here
for
generations,
we
have
a
vested
interest
into
the
community.
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
that
when
you
come
over
here
and
you
build
and
you
go
home
over
to
highland
park
or
wherever
you
are
we're
still
here
in
evanston,
we
still
have
to
live.
We
still
have
to
come
and
go.
Q
L
I
You
thank
you
for
your
comment.
What
I
will
say
is,
I
understand
your
concern.
I
understand
your
concern
and
your
points
brought
up
by
renters
versus
homeowners.
I
The
one
thing
I'd
like
you
to
consider
and
think
about
is
us
as
the
builders
we
are
the
owners
as
well.
So
we
like
you
to
consider
us
as
your
neighbors,
in
addition
to
the
renters
and
our
goal
is
to
be
part
of
this
community
for
a
very
long
time.
Our
goal
is,
is
to
be
on
site,
as
boyne
mentioned,
he's
going
to
be
there
every
day
when
this
thing
is
getting
built,
you
are
going
to
see
him
you
can't
like.
I
said
you
can't
miss
him.
I
You
are
going
to
see
him
every
day
when
you
leave
every
day
when
you
come
home
and
that's
going
to
be
for
on
forever.
I
have
always
had
an
interest
in
evanston.
I
have
always
wanted
to
be
a
part
of
evanston,
and
I
think
this
is
a
way
to
do
it
again,
where
I
can't
speak
to
our
residents
that
don't
exist
at
the
current
moment.
What
I
can
do
is
speak
to
buoyant.
I
can't
speak
to
myself
and
the
rest
of
our
team,
and
this
is
something
that
we
care
a
lot
about.
I
Okay,
we
care
a
lot
about
and
we
want
again
we
understand
the
concern.
We
understand
the
the
the
fear
that
that
you
guys
have,
but
you
know
I
I
want
you
guys
to
know
that
you
are
in
good
hands.
You
can
trust
us,
we
are,
you
know,
good,
honest
people
and
and
want
to
make
sure
we're
doing
what's
best
for
the
community
and
best
for
the
building,
and
you
know
yes,
this
is
a
a
business
decision.
On
our
end,
it
is
a
financial
decision,
but
one
that
we
hope
makes
sense.
I
And
again
it
only
makes
sense
if
there's
longevity
to
it.
This
doesn't
make
sense.
If
it's
a
you
know
a
short-term
play.
This
is
something
that
we're
seeing
for
you
know
decades
to
come,
so
we
want
you
to
be
familiar
with
our
faces,
recognize
us
as
your
faces
and
where
we
might
not
live
on-site,
want
you
to
consider
us
as
part
of
the
neighborhood
and
part
of
your
neighbors
as
well.
H
O
I
O
G
P
P
P
I
think,
since
our
first
introduction
to
this
project,
they've
done
a
great
deal
of
improvements
instead
of
knocking
down
all
our
trees
and
the
large
tree.
Next
to
us,
it
sounds
like
they're
they're
keeping
the
cottonwood
nexus
as
they're
saying
so
that's
a
big
improvement.
That's
really
a
lot
better
than
the
original
plan,
where
they
were
much
closer
to
our
building.
Correct,
saying
that
there's
a
couple
things
I
mean
one
of
the
things
when
they
make
these
applications
is
that
you're
not
hurting
any
of
the
neighbors.
P
I
Correct
if
you
live
on
the
top
story,
yes,.
P
Okay
and
there
are
two
bedroom
requirements-
ones
and
twos,
so
you're
not
just
carrying
up
the
groceries
for
yourself
you're
carrying
the
groceries
up
for
whoever
you're
living
with
not
so
easy
in
today.
I'm
just
saying
this
is
an
observation
understood,
but
also,
I
think,
the
parking
which
you've
gone
back
and
forth
with
is
not
realistic
in
our
neighborhood,
maybe
in
a
more
condensed
area
or
something
people
don't
use
as
much
parking,
but
here
basically
in
our
building
over
the
past
10
years,
almost
every
adult
has
had
their
own
car
in
your
units.
P
There
may
not
always
be
two
adults,
but
most
of
the
time,
I
think
they
would.
You
might
even
have
a
kid
who
drives
a
car.
That's
an
issue.
The
other
thing
is
when
you
put
your
road
in
on
greenwood,
it's
not
just
about
the
road
knocking
out
parking
spaces
that
are
there
it's
the
visibility
on
both
sides.
You
lose
a
lot
more
spaces.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
eight
or
nine
are
going
to
be
missing.
Those
are
spaces
that
the
neighborhood
uses.
O
P
Yeah,
that's
maybe
those
are
actual
spots,
but
you'll
see
that
you
have
to
have
non-parking
15-20
feet
in
each
direction,
because
visibility
for
that
road-
I
mean
someone
in
planning
here-
should
know
that
you
know.
I
don't
know
that
it's
not
like.
I
have
such
a
monopoly.
On
that
knowledge.
P
It's
not
just
the
width
of
your
road,
it's
to
the
side,
east
and
west
you're
going
to
have
to
knock
out
a
bunch
of
spots,
so
people
can
see
your
car's
coming
in
and
out,
and
this
is
a
lot
of
cars
and
it's
a
lot
of
people.
The
neighbors
have
talked
about
between
my
project
and
yours,
we're
bringing
in
it's
about
50
apartments
right
into
the
middle
of
this
block.
That's
a
lot
of
people.
My
project
we
have
27
units
about,
half
of
them
are
one
bedrooms
and
we
have
like
52
parking
spaces
inside.
I
I
I
mean
we,
we
just
need
to
work.
No,
I
I
understand,
I
mean
we're
working
with
our
we're
working
with
our
with
our
architects
with
our
engineers
it
it's.
You
know
it
shouldn't
be
a
problem,
but
I
understand
your
concern.
P
Okay,
because,
like
in
our
building
our
heat,
our
garage
floor
is
heated
radiant,
floor
heat,
it's
very
in
effective,
and
so
our
garage
is
heated.
So
then
the
people
on
the
first
floor
above
it
start
with
the
heated
floor,
that's
like
50
55
degrees
so,
and
that
turns
out
to
be
very
efficient
for
them
and
the
garage
being
heated
right.
It's
expensive,
I
don't
know
what
it
would
be
in
your
building,
but
there
would
be
something
to
look
into
okay.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
P
P
It's
a
little
weird
for
our
our
units,
the
back
of
our
units,
so
the
kitchen
and
the
bedrooms
are
in
the
back
and
your
units
will
be
looking
into
them.
Do
you
know
how
far
setback
you
are
from
ours.
E
P
Okay,
so
I
mean,
if
I
was
designing
it,
I
would
think
you
would
want
the
balconies
to
the
east,
so
they
have
an
unobstructed
view.
They
have
the
sunrise,
light
and
they're
not
looking
into
our
units,
but
I
don't
know
I
mean
it's
not
up
to
me,
I'm
just
making
these
suggestions.
I
don't
know
if
the
city
is
going
to
step
in
on
any
of
this
stuff.
P
G
F
One,
if
I
may
please,
commissioner,
I
believe
that
we
are
megan.
You
can.
Let
me
know
if
I'm,
if
I'm
off
track
here,
but
do
we
have
to
offer
a
a
right,
a
right
of
the
neighbors
to
rebut
any
of
the
testimony
that
they've
heard
today
for
a
map.
Amendment.
A
For
the
map
amendment,
we
don't
tend
to
have
that.
Let
me
confirm
it's
usually
something
that
we
have
for
a
larger
plan.
Developments.
F
Yeah,
it's
page
13
of
our
of
our
rules.
F
It
says
it's
it's
just
with
respect
a
corporation
council
can
step
into
if,
if
they
have
it
handy,
but
it
the
section
only
talks
about
public
hearing
procedures
and
then
it
just
says
just
references
a
petitioner's
case
and
actually
it
says:
okay,
persons
or
groups
with
an
ownership
interest
in
property
within
1
000
feet
in
the
case
of
unique
cases
and
plan
plan
developments
in
each
direction
of
the
subject-
property.
F
Yeah,
okay,
so
it
was
our.
It
was
our
old.
It
was
our
old
rules
that
had
the
it
was
a
500
feet
for
for
one
one
group
and
then
a
thousand
feet
for
planned
developments.
Okay,
all
right,
commissioner.
Cullen.
Thank
you
for
for
giving
me
that
time
to
make
sure
that
we
were,
we
were
doing
everything
we
needed
to
do.
Please
continue.
G
A
F
Thank
you,
chair
cullen,
all
right,
commissioners,
comments
on
the
on
the
on
the
map,
amendment
I
mean
from
from
from
a
used
standpoint.
You
know
it's,
it's
we're
looking
at
changing
it
to
the
exact
same
use
as
the
property
to
the
west,
and
ultimately
I
mean
ms
jones.
F
That's
really
all
we're
looking
at
here
right,
we're
our
our
job.
Here
is
only
with
respect
to
the
map
amendment
and,
and
I
suppose,
at
the
same
time,
you
know
understanding
that
it's
going
to
be
residential,
but
really
the
the
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
what's
being
built.
That's
not
really
within
our
purview
right,
that's
the
the
zba.
The
vba
is
looking
at
that
and
that's
correct.
A
So
so
plan
commission
would
will
be
deliberating
on
and
voting
on
the
map
amendment.
So
I
do
appreciate
the
contributions
to
the
overall
discussion
and
having
an
understanding
that
it
will
be
residential.
But
yes,
plan
commission
sticks
to
map
amendment
and
then
the
zoning
board
will
deal
with
the
major
variations
that
are
proposed.
Okay,.
F
Thank
you,
okay,
so,
commissioners,
with
that,
in
you
know,
with
that
understanding,
do
you
have
any
questions
or
comments
or
any
points
of
discussion
with
respect
to
this,
this
amendment.
F
D
I'm
sorry
I-
and
it
was
my
fault
I
was
muted,
but
I
I
think
that
the
change
to
the
mxe
district,
really
kind
of
opens
up
more
possibilities
for
uses
that
are
not
as
industrial
in
nature
and
so
a
little
more
compatible
with
the
nearby
residential
units
and
you've
already
got
an
mxc
a
lot
to
the
west.
So.
H
H
F
All
right,
ms
jones,
can
you
put
up
the
the
standards.
F
Okay,
the
standards
for
a
map
amendment
one
whether
the
proposed
amendment
is
consistent
with
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
comprehensive
general
plan,
as
adopted
and
amended
from
time
to
time
by
the
city
council.
F
Well,
we're
changing
it
to
mxe,
which,
like
has
been
pointed
out
by
other
commissioners,
is
immediately
adjacent
to
this
project.
F
I
think
we
heard
testimony
from
ms
jones
saying
that
mxe
with
residential
and
some
industrial
mixed
together
is
is
not
uncommon
in
the
city
of
evanston
that
there's
another
another
area
where
the
same
is
happened
and
is
happening,
and
so
I
don't
think
you
know
I.
F
I
see
this
as
a
satisfied
standard,
any
any
comments
or
disagreements
from
the
commissioners
all
right
hearing,
none
I'll
move
on
whether
the
proposed
amendment
is
compatible
with
the
overall
character
of
existing
development
in
the
immediate
vicinity
of
the
subject
property.
F
I
think
I
think
we've
already
gone
through
this
again
that
the
as
from
a
from
a
map
amendment
perspective,
changing
this
to
mxe,
isn't
going
to
isn't
going
to
change
the
the
character
overall
character
of
the
neighborhood
all
right,
whether
the
proposed
amendment
will
have
an
adverse
effect
on
the
value
of
adjacent
properties.
F
Well,
there's
an
mxe
to
the
west
to
the
east
is
industrial
and
well
that's
the
storage
facility,
and
I
don't
think
we
heard
any
testimony
and
the
the
owner
of
that
property
has
not
has
has
not
made
any
objections
and
all
the
other
properties
to
the
north
are
all
residential
which
it
appears.
This
property
will
be
as
well
atticus
adequacy
of
public
facilities
and
services.
F
F
Okay.
With
that
any
other
comments
or
questions,
or
do
we
have
a
motion
from
one
of
the
commissioners
with
respect
to
this
amendment,.
D
I'll
move
the
standards
are
for
the
map.
Amendment
are,
are
satisfied
and
recommend
approval
of
the
proposed
map.
Amendment.
F
F
Approved
by
linwall
and
westerberg
seconds,
miss
jones.
Can
you
call
roll
for
the
for
the
vote
on
the
motion?
I
presume,
based
on
our
our
discussion,
thus
far
that
there's
no
no
desire
for
just
further
discussion
on
this
amendment.
O
E
F
All
right
with
that,
I
will
hand
over
the
reins
back
to
chair
cullen.
H
G
So
the
major
variance
variation
standards
for
the
zba
to
recommend
approval
of
a
variance
the
zba
must
find
that
the
proposed
variance
a
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
impact
on
the
use,
enjoyment
or
property
values
of
adjoining
properties.
The
staff
believes
this
standard
has
been
met.
G
Okay
standard
b
is
in
keeping
with
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance
staff
believes
that
this
standard
has
been
met.
The
proposal
meets
the
goals
of
the
comprehensive
general
plan,
promotes
the
health
and
well-being
of
evidence,
sitter
and
citizenship
through
the
provision
of
additional
housing
and
increases
and
diversifies
the
city's
tax
base.
G
Okay
c
has
a
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
that
is
peculiar
to
the
property.
The
staff
believes
that
this
standard
has
been
met.
The
width
and
length
of
the
lot
provides
unique
challenges
for
the
accommodating
vehicular
access
parking
and
buildable
areas.
The
proposed
variations
provide
for
a
better
built
fabric
than
otherwise
compliant
alternatives,
including
decreased,
open
space
and
surface
parking
d.
The
property
owner
would
suffer
a
particular
hardship
or
practical
difficulty.
G
The
staff
believes
that
the
proposed
zoning
relief
provides
a
balance
between
adequate
development
potential
return
on
investment
and
contextual
and
quality
built
fabric
greatly
improved
from
alternatives
which
were
explored
e
is
not
based
exclusively
upon
a
desire
to
extract
additional
income
from
the
property
or
public
benefit
to
the
whole
would
be
derived.
The
staff
believes
that
this
standard
has
been
met.
G
The
additional
income
derived
from
two
additional
units
shall
shall
be
considered
by
the
board
and
weighed
against
the
proposed
public
benefits
offered,
specifically
the
board
to
consider
it
would
be
consider
if
it
would
be
more
appropriate
and
advantageous
for
the
development
to
have
a
reduced
unit
density
with
either
larger
units
in
square
footage
or
units
of
a
higher
bedroom
mix.
Both
alternatives
would
result
in
a
reduction
or
negation
of
the
request,
but
likely
increase
the
rent
structure
of
the
remaining
units
proportionally
in
either
scenario.
The
likely
increase
or
decrease
in
overall
income
would
be
negligible.
G
Okay
f
does
not
have
a
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
that
was
created
by
any
person.
Having
an
interest
in
the
property
staff
believes
that
this
standard
has
been
met.
The
property
was
planted
to
the
existing
size
prior
to
the
current
ownership
g
is
limited
to
the
maximum
change
necessary
to
alleviate
the
particular
hardship
or
practical
difficulty.
G
L
G
G
C
E
B
So
it's
it's
three
to
one.
The
rules
do
dictate
that
if
there's
not
four
con
concurrent
votes
that
it's
continued,
this
case
will
be
continued
to
the
next
zoning
board
of
appeals
meeting.