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A
A
Could
evening
everyone
today
is
Wednesday
May
29th
to
2019.
This
is
a
meeting
of
the
city
of
Evanston
planned
commissioned
the
ordinary.
The
zoning
ordinance
directs
this
body
to
hear
applications
for
map
amendments
text
amendments
planned
developments
as
well
as
to
make
recommendations
regarding
the
city's
long-term
plans.
This
Commission
will
make
a
recommendation
which
will
be
sent
to
the
City
Council.
A
Okay.
Thank
you.
Our
next
order
of
business
is
approval
of
the
meeting
minutes
of
the
Planning
Commission
meeting
of
April
10
2019.
Does
anyone
have
any
comments,
questions
or
suggestions
for
amendment
to
the
proposed
meeting
minutes
hearing?
None
do
I,
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
of
April
10
2019
Dubin
motion
to
have
a
second
Alix.
Second,
all
in
favor
all
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it.
A
A
I
guess
before
we
before
we
start
that
have
a
few
reminders
for
the
members
of
the
public
that
are
here.
If
you
would,
please
put
your
cell
phones
on
silent
or
vibrate,
if
anyone
that
would
love
anyone
would
like
to
speak
at
tonight's
hearing.
If
you
haven't
already
signed
up,
we
have
this
sign-up
sheet
up
here.
You
can
come
up
here
now
and
sign
up
to
speak.
A
Summary
of
a
procedure
for
tonight's
meeting
will
be
that
city
staff
will
present
their
report
regarding
the
petition,
after
which
the
plan
commission
members
may
ask
questions
of
the
staff
next
members
of
the
public
can
ask
questions
of
staff.
When
speaking,
we
ask
that
you
come
up
to
the
microphone
and
give
your
name
and
address
and
indicate
whether
you
have
been
sworn
in
to
testify,
which
we
will
do
in
a
few
moments.
A
Then
the
petitioner
will
have
opportunity
to
cross-examine
any
member
of
the
public
and,
after
the
public
has
completed
its
testimony.
Public
testimony
for
this
case
will
be
closed
with
that
I
will
turn
it
over
to
city
staff.
To
present
the
case.
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
let's
swear,
let's
swear
everyone
in
so
for
everyone
who
is
going
to
speak
tonight.
If
you
can
raise
your
right
hand.
D
A
B
Very
good,
okay,
good
evening,
everyone,
I'm
megan
jones
neighborhood
and
land
use
planner.
The
proposed
text,
amendment
that
is
in
front
of
the
Commission
this
evening
comes
to
us
through
an
automatic
referral,
specifically
to
look
at
office,
uses
in
our
more
dense
residential
zoning
districts
as
they
relate
to
some
of
our
core
downtown
districts.
B
These
can
include
townhouses
to
family
dwellings,
three-story
walk-up
buildings
and
courtyard
building
that
are
common
within
this
particular
zoning
district
throughout
the
city,
the
r6
district
is
actually
intended
to
provide
for
a
high
density,
residential
development
print,
primarily
multifamily
dwellings
that
are
particularly
in
them
around
our
downtown
districts.
I
do
want
to
note
that
office
uses
are
considered
a
special
use
within
both
of
these
districts,
and
there
is
a
section
within
the
zoning
code
that
specifically
addresses
this
particular
use.
It
is
Section
six,
eight
111
special
conditions
for
office
uses.
This
is
that
particular
section.
B
Currently
it
addresses
where
the
subject
properties
can
be
located.
If
they
intend
to
have
an
office
use
specifically
the
b
c
d,
RP,
o
1mu
in
you
and
MXC,
and
the
Izone
in
districts
as
it
exists
now,
if
they're,
the
subject
property
that
intends
to
have
an
office
use,
that
particular
property
must
be
improved
with
or
located
within.
A
dwelling
unit
that
is
a
single-family
detached
or
family
dwelling
as
office
uses,
are
considered.
A
special
use,
especially
uses
are
reviewed
by
rezoning
Board
of
Appeals
and
in
Section
C.
B
This
lists
the
various
items
that
would
need
to
be
considered
when
reviewing
that
particular
special
use-
and
this
includes
the
number
of
potential
employees
and
customers
of
that
particular
business
parking
potential
traffic
hours
of
operation,
whether
or
not
there
be
deliveries
and
things
such
as
for
particular
use.
If
there
will
be
any
loud
noises
vibrations
or
smells
that
come
for
that
particular
property.
B
There's
also
excuse
me
also
a
section
D,
which
basically
says:
should
the
City
Council
approve
that
special
use,
the
applicant
would
need
to
provide
documentation
to
the
Cook
County
Assessor
that
exclusively
states
that
this
non-residential
use
will
be
a
part
of
that
property,
and
the
city
would
need
to
obtain
a
copy
of
that
documentation.
So
we
have
it
on
file
now
switching
gears
to
our
existing
downtown
regulations.
We
have
the
the
d3
downtown
core
development
district,
which
is
intended
to
provide
for
the
highest
density
of
business,
infill
development
and
larger
scale
development
within
downtown.
B
This
district
is
also
intended
to
encourage
a
mix
of
office,
retail
and
residential
uses.
The
D
downtown
retail
core
district
is
intended
to
define
and
support
the
traditional
downtown
retail
shopping
function
of
Evanston.
This
particular
district
is
characterized
by
street-level
retail,
storefronts
and
structures
that
accent
at
the
pedestrian
scale.
This
district
also
encourages
mixed-use
developments
that
would
have
retail
on
the
ground
floor
and
officer
residential
use
above
that
would
maintain
that
particular
scale
and
architecture
that's
identified
within
our
existing
plans.
B
B
We
would
be
adding
language
that
provides
an
exception
for
parcels
that
are
located
within
the
r5
or
r6
districts
and
are
adjacent
to
our
d2
and
d3
districts,
and
this
latter
case
the
particular
subject.
Property
may
be
improved
with
office
above
the
ground
floor,
instead
of
just
having
the
single
family
or
two
family
residential
look
and
would
also
be
making
a
minor
change
to
Section
C.
B
This
particular
section
is
simply
omitting
a
number
9
residential
appearance
so
that
we
can
have
something
that
it
has
more
of
an
office
appearance
and
not
again
the
single
family
or
two
family
dwelling
appearance.
There
would
be
no
change
to
section
D,
which
is
not
pictured
on
the
screen
at
the
moment.
That
would
be
maintained,
as
is
taking
all
of
this
into
consideration,
currently
the
parcels
that
would
probably
be
affected
by
this
particular
text.
Amendment
are
outlined
on
the
map
on
the
screen
outlined
in
red.
B
For
the
purposes
of
the
review
of
this
particular
amendment,
these
are
the
four
standards
that
we
need
to
be
met.
One
whether
the
proposed
amendment
is
consistent
with
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
comprehensive
general
plan,
as
adopted
in
a
minute
from
time
to
time
by
City
Council.
Whether
the
proposed
amendment
is
compatible
with
the
overall
character
of
existing
development
and
the
immediate
vicinity
of
the
subject
property,
whether
the
proposed
amendments
will
have
an
adverse
effect
on
the
value
of
adjacent
properties
and,
finally,
the
adequacy
of
public
facilities
and
services.
A
E
F
F
G
B
B
And
I
think
it's
difficult
to
say
for
certain
I
know
there
there
is
a
concern,
I
think
it
was
outlined
within
the
the
staff
report
for
possibly
expanding
the
downtown
into
the
residential
areas.
So
there
definitely
is
that
to
take
into
consideration,
which
is
also
a
reason
why
we
would
keep
this
particular
use
of
special
use.
So
we'd
have
to
go
through
that
additional
review
to
ensure
that
that
particular
use
that
there's
any
mitigation
to
possible
negative
effects.
F
I
A
Staffed
and
a
count
as
to
how
many
parcels
would
be
affected
by
this
by
this
amendment,
alright,
because
we're
talking
about
r5
and
r6
and
within
that
within
those
districts,
the
parcels
would
need
to
be
adjacent
to
a
d2
or
d3
district
right.
That's
that's
what
the
proposal
is
and
I've
got,
the
you
know:
I've
got
the
map
up.
Just
like
you.
Have
it
up
here
and
it
doesn't
seem
okay,
so
every
one
of
those
every
one
of
those
parcels
will
have
the
cross
hatch
on
them
all.
F
And
likely
would
be
a
zoning,
a
lot,
that's
adjacent,
so
in
some
cases
there
may
be
multiple
parcels
that
make
up
one
zoning
a
lot
or
presumably
in
the
future.
If
multiple
parcels
were
under
the
same
ownership,
they
could
be
considered
one
zoning
lot.
So
they're,
you
know
potentially
could
be
additional
parcels
if
there
was
common
ownership
of
those
multiple
parcels,
but
the
map
shows
essentially
seven
areas
where
there's
that
adjacency.
A
What
would
be
on
the
first
floor
of
these
buildings?
I
mean
we
just
anticipate
there
just
be
a
lobby
for
the
office
use,
and
so
because
we're
not
gonna
have
we're
not
anticipating.
There
would
be
residential
on
the
first
floor
right,
even
though
it
would
still
remain
in
our
five
or
our
six
use.
So
you
know
any
thought
as
to
what
how
that
would
work
out.
A
B
B
A
F
G
F
As
I
understand
it
now,
I
mean
that
proposal
has
been
tabled
at
the
City
Council
level.
I
believe
that
if
there,
if
this
amendment
proceeded
and
was
adopted
by
the
City
Council,
that
would
allow
for
a
potential
future
planned
development
application
at
that
site
without
the
need
to
change
the
zoning
of
the
site
through
a
map
amendment,
as
was
previously
proposed.
G
F
F
Yes,
an
amendment
if
there's
opposition
to
the
amendment
with
the
petition
of
over
30%
property
owners
within
500
feet
of
the
property.
If
that
amendment
is
submitted
before
the
close
of
Planning
Commission
hearing,
then
there's
a
additional
majority
of
seven
votes.
There's
required
at
City
Council
to
approve
that
map
amendment
okay,.
A
A
J
A
Okay,
it
appears
that
we've
we've
received
a
request
for
continuance
in
accordance
with
our
rules
at
the
we
will
continue
with
the
hearing
today.
However,
we
will
not
make
any
final
determination
and,
at
the
end
of
our
meeting,
we
will
determine
the
date
for
the
next
date
that
this
that
this
case
will
be
continued.
A
So
we're
going
to
open
up
the
we'd
open
up
the
floor
to
members
of
the
public
to
ask
questions
of
the
staff
with
respect
to
their
proposal.
I
will
remind
you
that
the
at
this
moment
at
this
point
you're
we're
not
looking
for
comments
or
opinions,
we're
looking
for
questions,
so
you
have
a
question
for
staff.
You
can
pose
it.
A
K
There
are
a
lot
of
questions.
I.
Have
this
one
question
about
why
or
if,
if
this
is
going
to
go
in
front
of
the
zoning
committee,
which
is
a
subcommittee
of
the
plan
Commission
on
the
website,
it
says
that
that's
what
this
committee
does
it:
we've
used
text
amendments
and
map
amendments
per
need
basis
in
public
hearings
and
that
they
make
recommendations
to
the
plan
commission.
It
doesn't
appear
that
that
happened,
but
I
wonder
my
question
is
with
all
the
questions
that
you
all
had
about.
K
K
K
A
A
A
J
A
L
Hi
I'm
Vicki,
Burke
I
live
at
1409,
Rosalee
Street
and
Evanston
I'm,
the
president
of
the
Center
for
Women's
History
and
leadership,
and
history,
history
and
leadership
at
the
WCTU
Historic
Site
president,
their
board
also
a
past
president
in
The
Woman's
Club.
My
question
is
specifically:
I
want
to
concentrate
on
the
map
and
the
most
concentrated
area
of
the
map
that
is
circled
in
red,
which
incorporates
The
Woman's
Club
of
Evanston
and
the
WCTU
historic
property
I.
L
L
L
F
L
M
Akali
24,
36
or
inton.
My
question
is
well
the
library
parking
lot
high-rise,
which
was
defeated
by
Council
City
Council
a
few
weeks
ago,
was
required
to
pass
with
a
supermajority,
as
was
mentioned
because
the
residents
within
500
feet,
30%
of
the
property
owners,
filed
a
petition
for
that.
So
at
the
next
meeting
it
was
brought
up
for
reconsideration
and
we've
been
kind
of
in
a
holding
pattern.
We
were
told
it
was
going
to
come
up
in
the
next
few
weeks.
F
So
if
there
were
amendment
to
be
approved
that
this
amendment
has
proposed
would
be
approved
by
the
City
Council
there
would
an
office
building
could
be
constructed
with
a
special
use
and
if
it
were
of
a
certain
size,
you
know
over
20,000
square
feet
in
construction
would
also
require
plan
development,
so
that
planned
development
and
special
use
would
go
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
to
the
City
Council.
There
would
not
be
a
need
to
rezone
the
property
to
a
downtown
district.
M
It's
already
the
petitions
already
been
filed.
It
was
a
reconsideration.
The
attorney
actually
clarified
to
all
the
aldermen
that
it
has
to
be
the
exact
same
ordinance
to
be
reconsidered.
Nothing
can
change
about
it.
So
we're
like
in
it's
in
the
middle
of
this
process,
I
mean
actually
to
be
honest.
Everyone
who's
been
working
out
for
years
and
years
thought
it
was
finished
and
it
was
really
a
kind
of
a
surprise
so
yeah.
My
question
is
it's
kind
of
mid
process.
M
Are
the
terms
changing
in
the
middle
of
that,
and,
if
so,
is
that
going
to
come
through
counsel
since
we're
being
delayed
three
weeks
or
so
with
this
continuance?
Is
that
project
going
to
be
held
until
this
vote,
or
will
it
be
on
the
docket
for
City
Council
before
these
terms
are
potentially
changed?
I,
don't
know
if
that
makes
sense.
So.
A
M
M
D
M
O
So
what
I
wanted
to
know
is
what
are
the
implications
of
this
for
that
block,
and
what
do
we
need
to
know
in
terms
of
what
could
happen
with
the
properties
on
that
that
block,
particularly
like
Lou,
Malnati's
I?
Don't
think
anything's
gonna
happen
to
the
coop
that
I
live
in,
but
if
Lou
Malnati's
was
to
sell
their
property,
could
there
be
an
office
building
then
built
as
I'm
right
on
that
on
that
block?.
B
If,
in
the
event
that
Lou
Malnati's
wanted
to
sell
their
building
and
an
office
building
could
possibly
be
built
there,
they
would
still
have
to
go
through
the
special
use
process,
so
it
would
not
be
buy
right,
so
they
couldn't
just
come
in
with
building
permit
plans
and
request
the
build
okay,
that
particular
structure.
It
would
have
to
go
through
a
review
process
in
order
to
be
built
and
that
and
that's
if
the
hypothetical
situation
of
Lou,
Malnati's
and
selling
their
building
happens.
Okay,.
O
And
there's
also
another
restaurant:
that's
there
that
I
think
is
trying
to
get
sold,
and
so
probably
that
actually
would
be
more
likely.
But
what
I
want
another
thing
I
wanted
to
know
is
what
are
the
height
restrictions
or
storey
restrictions
for
building
within
this
changed
zoning
designation
with.
B
A
actually
heavy
chart
the
zoning
heights
would
not
change,
so
the
bulk
requirements
would
stay
the
same,
both
both
the
the
base
requirements
for
the
underlying
zoning
district
and
in
the
event
that
something
is
a
planned
development.
Those
would
not
be
changed.
Okay,
and
what
does
that
translate
into
and.
B
Upon
what
that
particular
zoning
district
is,
but
these
are
the
heights
in
this
particular
uh-huh
column
here
those
are
the
base
maximum
heights
and
that's
if
a
building
comes
in
basically
by
right
and
it's
not
a
planned
development.
If
there
is
a
development
that
comes
in,
that
does
meet
the
thresholds
to
become
a
planned
development,
then
they
would
be
able
to
request
like
development
allowances
that,
if
approved,
could
get
them
up
to
these
Heights
in
this
particular
column.
But.
O
G
O
O
O
For
this,
what
changed
for
this
change
in
in
designation
I'm,
presuming
that
people
need
to
be
notified
before
a
decision
is
made
to
be
able
to
talk
about
it
right?
Isn't
it
isn't
that
what
the
notification
is
or
the
the
percentage
of
residents
in
the
area
that
you're
looking
to
to
to
contest?
This
are.
O
F
F
O
F
F
The
texture
of
Records
public
information
that
that's
available
from
those
sources,
as
stated
the
city,
has
some
of
that
information.
It's
a
little
outdated
from
the
data
that
we
received
from
from
Cook
County
on
that.
But
if
you
had
specific
requests
we
could
we
could
take
a
look
at
that
for
you
well.
O
O
F
O
You're
talking
about
the
text,
amendment
no
correct,
okay,
all
right
and
then
I
have
another
question.
It
was
specific
to
the
library
parking
lot,
which
is
city-owned
and
if
this
were
not
to
go
through-
and
there
is
not
another
attempt
made
for
an
office
building
or
if
that's
just
a
dead
issue,
would
it
be
possible
for
the
city
to
provide
that
land
at
a
lower
than
market
rate
basis
to
a
developer?
O
Who
would
use
it
to
build
affordable
housing
or
at
least
a
good
amount
of
affordable
housing
and
be
able
to
structure
it
around,
be
able
to
be
required
to
keep
it
in
consistency
with
the
architecture
and
the
height
and
so
on
of
the
buildings
around
there?
Is
there
any
reason
why
that
couldn't
happen.
F
F
P
That's
correct
good
evening:
commissioners:
my
name
is
Tina
Hayden
and
I
live
at
11:22,
Emerson
Street.
To
me
next
time,
since
alderman
Fisk
was
the
one
who
requested
it
seems
like
she
should
be
here
next
meeting.
So
she
can
answer
some
of
these
questions
because
you
all
don't
seem
to
know
what's
really
going
on,
because
she
was
the
one
who
requested
it
and
I'm
I'm,
assuming
that
alderman
Fisk
was
the
one
who
decided
these
areas.
F
P
P
Yes,
it
was
changed,
but
you
all
put
it
forth
because
I
was
in
the
North
downtown
Evanston.
Originally
my
property
and
I
came
and
screamed
about
it,
and
you
took
me
out
of
the
plan,
but
you
all
created
a
new
zoning
in
order
to
get
to
eight
eleven
or
eight
thirteen,
whatever
address
they're
using
building
past.
So
it
looks
like
that.
This
is
something
similar
in
order
to
get
the
library
building
passed.
It
also
happened.
B
The
North
downtown
Evanston
those
two
particular
projects
aren't
actually
connected.
In
that
way,
North
downtown
plan
was
an
attempt
to
look
at
that
particular
area.
That's
north
of
downtown
and
possibly
rezone
it.
The
council
decided
not
to
adopt
those
recommendations,
so
the
north
downtown
plan
is
essentially
still
a
draft
that
has
not
been
approved
and
has
not
gone
forward
and
there's
been
no
rezoning
to
match
those
recommendations.
The
rezoning
I
think
that
you're
referring
to
411
Emerson,
that
was
a
separate
project
that
was
part
of
the
plan.
B
P
So
so,
just
only
the
buildings
in
red
is
being
considered
to
change
the
zone
or
is
r6,
so
one
of
my
properties
is
on
an
r6
and
it
is
a
commercial
building.
So
the
Cook
County
Assessor's
Office,
already
considers
it
a
commercial
building,
I'm
being
taxed
as
commercial,
so
in
art,
it's
but
its
own
r6.
So
right
here
at
in
between
Ridge
and
maple
I
have
our
six
but
I
have
a
commercial
building.
So
if
you
change
that,
does
that
affect
me
or
no
I.
B
P
B
P
So
when
I
come
before
you
shortly
about
my
property,
because
this
is
considered
spot
zoning
and
every
time
I
come
to
the
Zoning
Department
to
talk
to
them
about
my
property
and
changing
the
zoning,
everybody
looks
in
the
sky
and
since
this
is
spot
zoning,
this
is
spawn
zone
II,
you
do
it
throughout
the
whole
city,
so
I
shouldn't
have
a
problem
when
I
come
back
correct
last,
but
alderman
Fisk
needs
to
be
here
next
time
to
explain
some
answers
to
everybody's
questions.
Thank
You.
C
So
yes,
I
am
Mary
Ann,
otherwise
known
as
Patsy
benveniste
and
I
live
at
400,
Verge
Avenue,
and
at
the
suggestion
of
mr.
Isaac,
who
explained
that
we
you
staff,
could
not
address
questions
regarding
intent
of
Alderman,
Fisk
or
anybody
else
with
interest
in
this
text
amendment
it
his
suggestion,
I'd
like
to
ask
you
staff,
mr.
Mangum
and
Miss
Jones.
What
you
believe
could
be
the
unintended
consequences
of
this
text
amendment
and
the
zoning
change
you
mentioned.
That
is
the
kind
of
question
that
we
could
ask.
I.
C
G
D
C
C
B
There
could
be
meeting
the
the
need
for
more
office
that
has
been
stated
with
more
recent
developments
that
have
been
proposed,
but
within
that
staff
report
we
do
bring
up
the
concern
of
the
possibility
of
expanding
the
downtown
into
two
residential
districts,
and
that
said,
I
think
part
of
the
reason,
even
with
that,
concern
that
we're
sticking
with
the
residential
districts
that
have
a
higher
density
and
are
already
have
structures
that
are
a
little
bit
taller
and
I
have
a
greater
bulk
and
density
insistently,
but
their
work.
There
was
discussion
about
possible
effector
than
that.
C
C
I
B
As
pretty
much
have
brought
up
the
the
main
concern
about
expanding
the
downtown,
but
again
that's
why
we
would
be
keeping
this
as
a
special
use,
but
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
when
they
review
their
special
uses.
They
do
look
at
intended
or
unintended
effects
of
especially
use
or
any
variances
that
are
requested
for
a
particular
project.
So
that
would
be
something
that
they
will
look
at
as
well,
and
also
with
the
concerns
that
I
think
I
actually
listed
that
the
Zoning
Board
has
to
look
at.
B
Q
Q
A
Q
You'd
like
to
until
then
that's
fine
I.
Do
think,
however,
that
some
of
the
answers
to
questions
or
may
not
have
clarified
the
issue,
because
some
of
the
aspects
of
the
this
project
that
we
have
heard
about
we
had
our
board
meeting
yesterday
are
not
reflected
in
the
answers
to
the
questions,
but
since
I
don't
want
to
get
into
commentary
now,
I
won't
go
further
with
that.
Okay,.
R
Good
evening
I'm
Harris
Miller,
905,
Sherman,
Avenue
apartment
b5
I
have
a
few
questions
for
staff.
The
first
one
is:
how
will
the
historic
properties
be
affected,
such
as
the
Frances
Willard
house?
I
know
they
have
some
offices
in
the
back
and
then
there's
an
1899
home.
That
I
mean
apartment
building.
That's
on
Clark
Street.
So
that's
my
first
question:
how
will
those
properties
be
affected.
F
R
A
So
I,
don't
I
think
one
thing
that
can
be
expanded
upon
is
that
the
this
proposed
amendment
doesn't
change
the
historic
nature
of
the
buildings,
nor
does
it
change
the
regulations
that
govern
historic
properties
in
the
city
of
Evanston.
The
properties
that
you
mentioned
would
still
be
subject
to
those
ordinances,
and
nothing
here
would
require
any
changes
in
the
uses
of
those
properties
got.
R
It
just
my
main
concern
is
I
understand
the
there
might
be
a
variance
with
use
but
I'm
just
trying
to
wrap
around
wrap
my
head
around
how
these
buildings
will
be
affected
by
perhaps
the
library
parking
lot
development.
That's
in
that
the
most
concentrated
area
near
Church
Street,
as
well
as
The
Woman's
Club.
That's
other
question:
I
had
I.
F
Think
the
impacts
of
a
particular
development
would
be
specific
that
development.
You
know
you
could
take
a
look.
We
have
the
staff
reports
about
that
and
the
potential
impacts
of
the
proposed
development
on
that
site.
The
this
next
amendment
isn't
necessarily
specific
to
any
impacts.
It
would
be
a
development
proposal
at
any
particular
site
here
that
then,
would
have
potential
impacts
on
the
adjacent
properties.
Okay,
thank.
D
S
D
I
S
S
Alright,
taking
my
one
question
is:
it
was
brought
up
that
in
terms
of
residential
office,
visitors
of
office
development,
the
first
Wars
several
horrors
of
parking
would
be
permitted.
Is
that
in
keeping
with
what
was
referred
to
as
the
aesthetic
of
a
residential
neighborhood,
when
we
just
when
it
was
discussed,
how
that
might
be
more
compatible
than
a
retail
storefront
for
a
very
commercial
building?
S
A
A
You
still
have
you
know
effectively
a
parking
garage
for
the
residential,
and
so
the
aesthetic
I
mean
I,
understand
what
you're
saying
about
the
aesthetic
being
different
in
an
office
building
and
the
in
a
residential
building,
but
the
parking
component
of
it
there's
there's
parking
for
both.
S
Right,
though,
we're
not
talking
I
understand
that
in
the
office
of
building
it
could
be
more
than
two
three
four
or
five
stories.
It
could
be
quite
a
expansion
of
parking
on
the
first
floor,
which
just
becomes
a
darkened
monolith
at
night
and
I'm,
wondering
if
that's
the
is
that,
would
that
keep
permitted
in
this
special
use
in
these
in
this
ability
proposed
proposed
ordinance,
I
think.
B
S
There's
no
teeth:
we've
seen
what
jabber
has
done
with
regard
to
the
library
parking
lot,
building
and
I
totally
agree
with
them,
but
it
is
not
stop
Council
from
nearly
approving
it.
So
I'm
wondering
what
can
be
done
in
terms
of
if
this
idea
is
to
go
forward.
How
could
we
guarantee
that
this
property
would
be
appropriate
from
a
resident
from
the
neighborhood
and
not
just
a
a
darkened
series
of
floors
to
accommodate
parking
for
a
you
know
it
a
hill
conceived
office,
building,
no
I,
think
it's
a
doubt
valid
question.
S
B
Just
I
mean
again
that
would
be
something
that
our
designer
project
of
your
committee
would
look
at,
and
if
this
were
the
case
where
it
was
something
that
you'd
especially
use
the
Zoning
Board
would
look
at
that
as
well.
I
would
think
it
might
be
possible
to
have
conditions
with
regards
to
what
that
appearance
could
be,
but
ultimately
it
is
really
the
final
decision
of
the
council
on
whether
they
would
follow
what
staff
recommendations
or
zoning
plan
commission
recommendations.
S
S
What
could
be
added
to
this
this
proposal
that
would
guarantee
that
it
would
more
in
keeping
with
the
aesthetic
of
the
neighborhood,
which
was
all,
but
all
during
the
screwed
refers
to
in
one
of
her
statements,
rather
than
you
know
something
like
a
storm
front,
a
retail
front
that
would
not
be,
as
you
know,
fitting
in
the
aesthetic
with
the
neighborhood
I
would
consider
our
parking
structure
of
multiple
stories
not
to
be
compatible
with
the
residential,
never
either
so
I'm.
Just
warning,
you
know
what
can
be
done.
S
A
I,
don't
think
staff
can
make
a
guarantee.
Ultimately,
the
all
of
the
zoning
ordinance
is
is
ultimately
at
the
discretion
of
the
City
Council.
As
you
know,
comprised
from
time
to
time,
or
so,
none
of
the
zoning
anywhere
in
Evanston
is
is
set
in
stone
and
it's
you
know
it's
subject
to
public
comment,
subject
to
your
elected
officials.
That's
just
no.
S
I
do
understanding
object.
I
do
understand
that
I,
just
I'm,
just
I
just
wanted
either
have
to
use
safeguards
that
we
can
build
into
these.
These
unusual
requests,
especially
boy
night.
We
know
that
the
the
point
of
the
saw
request
is
very
specific,
so
I'm
warning
what
those
might
be,
and
you
know
how
can
you
help
us
with
that?
Is
staff
recommending
approval
of
this?
This
staff.
A
A
A
We
will
now
move
to
public
comment.
Public
comment
will
be
or
in
a
public
comment,
or
testimony
is
limited
to
two
minutes,
and
so
I'll
go
through
the
I'll
go
through
the
list
again
and
ask.
If
anyone
wants
to
make
a
comment
again,
you
can
either
speak
today
or
you
can
speak
at
the
at
the
next
hearing
on
this
case.
A
I
M
A
question
for
Megan:
you
mentioned
that
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
will
it
would
look
at
unintended
consequences
before
something
like
approving
something
like
this.
But
I
don't
know
if
this
is
accurate,
but
a
news
article
says
that
if
the
plan
Commission
approves
this
proposed
change,
it
would
go
directly
to
Council
for
a
final
vote.
So
I
was
wondering
when
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
is
ever
involved.
I.
B
Think
it
was
misunderstood
with
the
particular
process
for
this
particular
text.
Amendment
the
Planning
Commission,
would
look
at
the
information
that's
been
presented
and
make
a
recommendation
to
Council.
Should
the
text
amendment
be
approved
and
actually
already
the
office
uses
are
considered,
especially
use
within
the
r5
and
r6
zoning
districts.
The
the
changes
that
would
affect
the
particular
section
I
mentioned
earlier
would
still
be
a
part
of
that
special
use
process.
M
A
So
so,
to
put
it
another
way,
if
this
amendment
passes
through
City
Council,
then
should
a
property
owner
who
has
property
in
an
r5
or
our
six
district
that
is
adjacent
to
a
d2
or
d3
district,
want
to
develop
the
property
into
office
built
into
an
office
building.
They
would
then
have
to
go
in
front
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
and
request
for
a
special
use
in
order
to
build
that
office.
M
A
A
M
O
My
comment
is
that
I'm
confused
about
the
purpose
of
the
continuance,
because
I
understood
when
you
initially
talked
about
it,
that
that
was
to
give
time
to
get
people
and
I
thought
there
was
a
percentage
in
there
stated
about
some
30
percent
or
something
related
to
that.
I
am,
could
you
it
would
be
very
helpful.
My
comment
is:
it
would
be
very
helpful
if
you
restate
the
the
point
of
the
continuance
and
can
be
done
in
the
interim
and
what
what
can
be
done
them.
Okay,.
A
N
N
City
attorney
to
those
just
just
for
the
record,
its
staff
will
not
be
presenting
new
information
at
at
the
next
meeting.
The
purpose
of
the
continuance
is
to
allow
the
person
who
requested
the
continuance
to
prepare
evidence
to
rebut
certain
statements
or
evidence
that
have
been
presented
to
this
point.
Okay,.
P
So
I
would
just
like
it
to
make
a
comment
about
office
space
in
downtown
Evanston.
So
the
story
now
is
we're
in
dire
need
of
office
space
downtown
Evanston
for
those
who
have
been
here
long
enough.
As
you
will
recall
where
e
2
is
presently
located
at
1890
maple,
there
was
an
office
building
and
everybody
said:
oh,
we
don't
need
any
office
space,
let's
tear
down
the
building
and
build
this
giant
complex.
P
So
it
looks
like
that
everybody
is
making
up
things
as
they
go,
because
that
building
was
built
as
part
of
the
research
park
which
started
back
in
1985
and
I'm.
The
only
house
left
there
so
I
know
all
the
details
in
that
building
sent
bacon
the
entire
time
it
was.
There
was
office
building
and,
and
they
said
they
didn't-
need
office
space.
Q
The
there
were
basically
two
comments
that
the
southeast
Evanston
Association
asked
me
to
put
forward.
The
first
one
was
that
it
does
seem
that
this
ordinance
change
will
reduce
the
effectiveness
of
neighbors
attitudes
toward
tort
projects.
Is
that
correct?
Because
of
the
change
in
the
requirement
of
the
number
of
votes
I'm.
Q
Right,
so
our
concern
is
that
it
seems
that
the
passage,
but
first
of
all
that
I
should
say
it's.
It's
not
a
concern
exactly,
but
that
we
do
understand
unless
someone
contradicts
us
that
the
proposed
ordinance
change
has
the
purpose
of
assisting
the
library
project
and
that
the
other
of
the
wider
effects
of
it
are
not
the
goal.
So
that's
the
first.
The
first
observation.
The
second
is
that
the
ordinance
change
will
change
the
ability
of
neighbors
to
have
an
effect
on
the
kind
of
vote,
results
that
will
allow
a
development
and
the
third.
Q
So
that
can
you
see
that
this
kind
of
discussion
should
take
place
with
a
broader
kind
of
angle,
looking
at
what
are
the
main
goals
for
Evanston
for
the
next
five
years
or
ten
years
and
exactly
in
terms
of
residential
and
office
development?
And
how
does
this
assist
or
not
those
goals?
So
we
we
would
like
to
see
a
broader
view,
we'd
like
to
see
this
kind
of
rather
big
change
being
proposed
in
the
ordinance
to
have
some
relationship
to
a
general
plan.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
A
R
Okay
good
evening,
once
again,
just
a
few
comments
here
and
I
know:
there's
a
continuum
to
another
meeting,
but
I
just
want
to
say:
I
do
not
recommend
following
through
and
the
sets
amendment,
because
there
are
these
historic
buildings,
such
as
the
Frances
Willard
house
and
the
1899
apartment
building.
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
aesthetics
of
that
neighborhood
by
Church
and
Chicago
Avenue
I
know
a
number
of
other
people
who
live
over
there,
so
I
just
AM
concerned
about
the
care,
the
characteristics
of
the
neighborhood
and
also
I
love
history.
R
So
you
know
it
would
be
a
shame
to
see
drastic
changes
to
a
neighborhood.
That's
been
there
since
before
I
was
born
and
well
before.
Most
of
us
have
also
I
just
think
it's
there.
There
might
be
some
things
that
may
be
considered
inappropriate
for
the
properties
or
for
those
small
businesses.
I
know
the
Celtic
Knob
club
might
be
affected
on
Church,
so
I
would
definitely
talk
to
the
business
owners
in
their
neighborhood
and,
lastly,
I
really
do
wish
that
alderman
Fisk
was
here.
R
D
H
Good
evening,
good
evening,
my
name
is
March
Jambo
and
I
live
at
927
Michigan,
but
I'm
really
here
as
a
upcoming
board
member
for
The,
Woman's
Club
of
Evanston
and
I've.
Just
here
to
show
you
that
The
Woman's
Club
is
involved,
is
interested
and
we
haven't
changed
our
position
on
the
library
Lodge.
So
I
would
just
like
that
written
in
the
record
and
I'm
sure
we'll
be
here
at
the
next
meeting.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
D
S
Hi
mark
Tintin,
again
I
I,
think
miss
Roosevelt
kind
of
summed
up
my
my
the
core
of
my
concerns.
I
think
the
Southeast
episode,
neighbors
association
has
sort
of
cutted.
The
quick
and
I
think
we
all
know
why
we're
here
tonight.
My
my
biggest
concern
is
that
I
don't
see
anything
stopping
this,
regardless
of
your
recommendation
or
staffs
attitude
toward
this
and
it
sort
of,
as
you
can
tell
by
my
comments
previously
on
others
I.
S
S
I
have
always
been
supportive
of
developing
that
parcel,
but
this
particular
development
is
flawed
and
I
think
that
it
just
makes
me
very
suspicious
and
very
concerned
about
our
future
when
things
like
this
seem
to
get
ramrodded
through
every
committee
and
onto
council-
and
I
fear
at
this
point
there's
very
little-
we
can
do
to
stop
it,
so
I
will
certainly
keep
up
my
efforts,
but
I
think
that
a
lot
of
people
in
this
community
realized
it's
a
bad
idea.
It's
a
bad!
S
It's
the
wrong
development
in
the
right
place
at
the
right
place
at
the
wrong
development
I'm,
not
quite
sure,
but
it
certainly
isn't
what
this
city
should
have.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Sorry
you're
in
this
position,
I,
don't
think
it's
an
easy
one,
because
I
don't
think
there
was
a
lot
that
you
could
provide
tonight
without
the
presence
of
the
aldermen
who
requested
this.
This
ordinance
changed.
So
thank
you
for
getting
us
through
this
and
we'll
talk
again.
Okay,
thank.
A
A
A
Q
A
A
Okay,
Goddard
motions
the
gozi
seconds
all
in
favor,
all
against
all
right
the
eyes.
Have
it
one
note
for
public?
There
will
be
our
statement
that
the
that
this
case
is
continued.
June
12
2019
is
the
only
required
notice
of
its
continuance.
There
will
be
no
other
notice
of
that
of
a
continues
in
this
case
that
date,
with
that,
the
new
business
is
is
come
you,
the
new
business,
is
completed.
A
K
K
D
K
But
had
this
issue
then
brought
up
at
a
regularly
scheduled
plan
Commission
meeting
a
request
for
an
a
request
for
a
continuance
would
have
been
for
the
next
meeting,
which
would
be
four
weeks
away,
no
but
it.
But
this
was
not
at
a
regular
meeting.
What
I'm
really
asking
you
is
for
a
continuation,
a
normal
continuation.
That
would
be
four
weeks
away
from
this
hearing
because
of
these
circumstances,
our.
A
A
K
A
K
K
There
aren't
a
lot
of
people
here
who
know
about
this
change
that
will
affect
their
properties,
so
guess
what
it's
up
to
us?
The
people
who
are
here
who
care
who
actually
found
out
about
this
to
contact
all
of
those
people
who
may
have
have
concerns
so
that
they
can
show
up
and
and
understand
what
is
supposed
to
supposedly
going
on
two
weeks
is
not
a
lot
of
time.