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A
All
right
good
evening,
everybody
welcome
to
the
Monday
January
14th,
Planning
and
Development
Committee
meeting.
It
is
704
and
we
have
a
quorum.
So
I
will
call
us
to
order
in
our
first
order
of
business.
Is
approval
of
the
minutes
of
our
regular
meeting
on
December
10th?
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
move
a
second?
Are
there
any
questions
or
Corrections
all
in
favor
of
approving
the
minutes,
please
say:
aye
aye
opposed
no
okay
minutes
are
approved.
A
Our
first
item
for
consideration
is
community
partners
for
affordable
housing
proposal
for
the
continued
administration
of
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance.
Waitlist
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
twenty
eight
thousand
six
hundred
and
seventy
five
dollars
for
SEPA
to
continue
administering
Evanston's,
inclusionary
housing,
ordinance,
centralized
waitlist
and
to
conduct
income,
certifications
and
recertification
of
households
for
inclusionary
units.
A
The
housing
and
homelessness
Commission
reviewed
the
proposal
at
its
meeting
on
December
6th
and
concluded
that
it
should
receive
a
favorable
funding
recommendation.
However,
due
to
a
lack
of
quorum,
the
Commission
was
not
able
to
officially
vote
on
the
application
and
the
funding
source
is
from
the
city's
affordable
housing
fund,
which
currently
has
an
uncommitted
cash
balance
of
approximately
$800,000,
including
a
$50,000
budget
for
other
program
cost
for
fiscal
year.
2019
do
I,
have
a
motion.
Second,
okay,
alderman
Wilson.
Thank.
B
You
one
thing:
I
guess
I'd
like
to
see
and
I
don't
think
this
is
gravely
urgent,
maybe
if
we
put
it
off
for
a
couple
of
weeks,
I'm
interested
in
seeing
exactly
what
got
done.
The
last
cycle,
just
you
know
how
many
units
were
on
the
list
and
just
getting
some
more
specifics
on
that
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
getting
value
for
them.
For
what
we're
paying
for
this,
and
you
know
first,
look,
it
looks
like
we
are,
but
I
just
wanted
sure
that
that's
the
case.
Okay,.
A
B
I
could
could
we
I
guess
it'd
be
more
specific
I'd
like
to
know
you
know
how
many
units
we
had
last
cycle,
which
I
generally
do
have
an
idea,
but
it's
not
really
clearly
set
forth
for
the
public
here.
How
much
we
paid
and
how
many
the
units
got
filled.
What
were
the
issues
with
getting
units
filled
things
of
that
nature,
because
I
know
that
there
were
some
issues
on
at
least
a
couple
of
the
units
getting
filled
and
the
developer
had
to
come
back
and
make
some.
You
know
modifications
on
his
program
right.
A
B
C
Evening,
chair
revell
and
members
of
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee,
Sarah
flex,
housing
and
grants
manager
just
real
top-line
one
of
the
things
waitlist
management
is
a
lot
more
complicated
than
just
filling
units
when
we
initially
turned
over
the
names
that
we
had,
four
people
who
were
inquiring
and
SEPA
was
taking
the
information
for
people
who
wanted
to
apply
to
get
on
the
waitlist
we
had.
Three
hundred
and
twenty
different
households
apply
all
but
80
were
at
some
level
of
you
know
we
put
them
on
the
list
and
they
are
on
the
list.
C
So
there's
a
lot
of
other
work.
The
first
year
was
a
lot
of
writing
the
policies
and
procedures
before
we
even
got
to
this
standpoint,
but
we
can
detail
all
this
for
you
and
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
We
add
people
all
the
time.
Whenever
somebody
wants
to
be
on
the
wait
list,
they
can
fill
out
a
form
online
and
they
can
call,
but
there
tends
to
be
back
and
forth
on
every
single
one
of
them,
because
there
are
almost
always
questions.
C
Sepa
has
done
significant
outreach
at
various
meetings
throughout
the
city
and
at
anytime.
If
anyone
wants
us
to
come
to
the
board
meetings
or
anything
like
that,
please
let
us
know,
because
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
constantly
getting
people
on
the
wait
lists
who
need
affordable
housing
we
have
in
in
the
first
year
we
have
the
people,
the
the
two
units
at
16:20,
central,
the
one
at
ultimately
the
one
at
1571
and
and
the
for
at
8:28
noise
noise.
C
But
there
are
some
interesting
things
you
run
into
market
rate
developers
really
are
kind
of
skittish
about
dealing
with
people
who
are
not
normally
their
market,
and
there
are
certain
things.
I'll
give
you
an
example:
at
8:28
noise
they
have
an
upfront
additional
fee
that
normally
people
who
were
lower-income
don't
deal
with
and
frankly
they
were
balking
because,
like
I,
don't
have
the
cash
and
SEPA
talked
with
their
management
and
they
agreed
to
break
those
fees
out
over
their
first
year
so
that
it
wasn't
a
barrier.
C
So
there's
a
lot
of
there's
just
a
lot
of
stuff
that
goes
into
this
and
the
other
thing
is.
We
do
HUD
part
five
income
certification,
which
I
can
tell
you
having
done
it
and
probably
not
very
well.
It's
not
the
simplest
thing
in
the
world,
but
the
reason
for
that
is
to
make
sure
that
people
are
consistently
when
they're
on
other
waiting
lists.
Then
they
aren't
always
like
wait
a
minute.
Why
am
I
okay
for
this
one,
but
not
okay,
for
that
one,
which
is
really
really
confusing
for
people
they
get
like.
B
B
D
C
E
D
D
Here's
what
we
need
members
of
the
consider
council.
We
need
a
full
report
on
this,
because
our
landlord
tenant
ordinance
governs
all
of
this,
and
it
is
definitely
out
of
sync.
If
this
is
the
case,
we
need
to
see
what
the
industry
is
doing
today,
so
that
we
can
fashion
the
ordinance
after
you
know,
make
it
make
it
more
reasonable,
I.
F
E
E
D
D
C
D
But
we
need
to
look
at
that
when
we,
when
we
see
these
extra
fees,
if
I
think
our
ordinance
allows
for
a
month
and
a
half
security
deposit.
So
if
all
these
extra
fees
and
things
exceed
a
month
and
a
half
security
deposit,
when
you
get
the
security
deposit,
plus
the
fees,
if
that
exceeds
the
month
and
a
half,
then
we've
got
a
violation
of
the
ordinance.
We
will
look
into
that
sample.
A
D
D
C
Task
force
that
age-friendly
the
task
force
develop,
worked
with
this
provider
with
side,
and
they
are
because
of
the
work
that
had
already
been
done
and
because
of
how
this
whole
thing
was
approached,
they
are
getting.
This
isn't,
shall
we
say
a
market
rate
price.
They
talked
to
a
number
of
other
providers,
and
so
it
wasn't
like
they
just
went
with
this.
But
the
goal
is
to
really
quantify
better.
The
type
of
housing
that's
needed
for
seniors.
The.
G
C
You
know
independent
living,
assisted
living,
affordable,
assisted
living,
affordable
senior,
you
know
just
and
all
these
different
types
of
care
and
so
to
be
able
to
use
it'll,
be
used
in
the
housing
plan.
It
will
also
be
used
by
the
committee
that
wants
to
actually
try
to
contact
developers
and
see
if
they
could
get
interest
in
those
types
of
housing.
We.
C
F
You
good
evening,
members
of
the
committee
I'm
Susan,
churko
and
I
the
task
force
I'm,
do
not
I
convene
the
Housing
Committee
of
our
task
force,
I,
don't
chair
it
and
the
woman
who
is
most
knowledgeable
had
a
death
and
her
family,
so
she
but
I
can
explain.
I've
talked
to
her.
This
is
not
a
survey
of
neat
to
find
determine
need
because
I
think
we
know
that
there
is
a
need
for
affordable
housing
for
seniors.
F
This
is
the
kind
of
survey
that
developers
use
to
go
for
funding
and
and
and
so
it's
a
really
a
market
feasibility
study
to
say
we
know,
there's
a
need,
but
is
there
a
way
to
put
together
a
development
combining
affordable,
independent
and
assisted
living,
which
Evanson
does
not
have
at
all
that
is
financially
viable
for
a
developer,
I
mean?
Can
it
be
done
in
this
community,
given
whatever
the
barriers
are
in
terms
of
finding
land
and
the
demographics
and
the
competition?
F
F
Don't
know
that
that
was
that
we
did
know
at
the
time
because
they,
the
Housing
Committee,
has
been
working
on
this
ever
since
our
action
plan
was
approved
by
the
City
Council
and
so
we'd
have
already
received
a
grant
from
the
Evanston
Community
Foundation
for
$5,000.
So
this
would
be
for
the
balance
I.
D
A
It's
I
think
it's
great
that
the
task
forces
has
gotten
the
five
thousand
dollar
grant
from
the
Evanston
Community
Foundation
to
get
this
off
the
table
and
and
I
do
think
getting
the
material
together
that
it
would
try
to
convince
a
developer
to
pursue
that
kind
of
a
development.
It
is
really
gonna
be
helpful.
So,
okay,
all
in
favor
of
this
motion
for
the
age-friendly
Evanston,
affordable,
senior,
housing
feasibility
study,
please
say:
aye
aye
opposed
no.
Alright!
A
A
This
is
ordinance
2-0
19
amending
the
city
code,
section
6,
3,
6
3,
on
public
benefits,
the
Plan
Commission
and
staff
recommend
adopting
ordinance,
2-0
19,
which
would
revise
the
regulations
relating
to
public
benefits
of
plan
developments,
and
this
is
for
introduction.
Do
I
have
a
motion?
Second,
okay.
So
this
is
quite
a
hefty
item.
If
no
committee
has
any
comments,
questions
thoughts.
I
So
we
we
did
not
prepare
a
formal
presentation.
We've
come
to
the
council
twice
to
talk
about
public
benefits,
we've
included
the
materials
from
the
Planning
Commission.
They
had
two
meetings
to
discuss.
We
essentially
presented
the
the
memo
that
we
provided
to
the
council
to
talk
about
public
benefits,
to
ask
them
their
feedback
and
they
thought
about
keeping,
as
is
do
they.
I
They
have
the
table
of
public
benefits
from
that
we
provided
of
past
past
developments
and
we
also
provided
an
example
of
how
Chicago
does
their
public
benefits,
where
fees
are
assigned
to
different
FA
are
bonuses
and
other
other
site
development
allowances.
So
this
was
two
meetings
we're
happy
to
return
to.
If
you
would
like
a
further
presentation,
but
these
are
the
proposed
revisions
from
the
Planning
Commission.
H
Right
and
that's
fine
and
I
appreciate
that,
but
we
we
current,
we
currently
have
some
large
planned
developments
that
are
coming
forward
to
council
and
some
of
the
concerns
are
about
public
benefits.
Certainly
a
concern
raised
at
Debra
and
I.
Just
think
this
is
the
place
for
us
to
do
the
presentation
and
to
reach
the
most
people
in
the
community
as
possible.
I've
had
a
lot
of
emails
regarding
public
benefits,
I'm,
not
sure
the
community
totally
understands
them,
I'm
quite
certain.
They
wouldn't
understand
where
we're
going
with
this
and
I.
H
I
J
J
K
Something
I'd
like
to
hear
more
about
and
maybe
that
this
would
be
helpful
to
hear
more
about
it.
The
presentation
is
in
Section
C,
the,
which
is
the
standards
for
evaluation
of
public
benefits
in
items
two
three
and
five.
Oh,
it
talks
about
sort
of
under
evaluating
the
degree
to
which
the
location
of
the
development
or
public
benefit
within
the
structure,
or
so
it
talks
about
the
degree
of
public
accessibility.
The
degree
of
this
and
the
degree
of
that
and
I'd
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
the
thought
behind.
K
What's
then,
how
do
we
measure
the
degree
or
what's
the
analysis
of
the
degree-
and
you
know,
is
there
something
out
there
that
is
viewed
in
other
municipalities
on
good
ways
to
measure
something
you
know,
I.
Think
back
on
when
the
music
Institute
asked
to
go
into
the
basement
of
the
old
Marshall
Field's
building,
they
came
forward
to
us
with
something
that
you
know
that
analyzing
the
halo
effect
of
what
it
would
be
to
have
it
to
have
their
classes
there
because
of
the
nature
of
the
types
of
classes.
K
K
I
K
G
So
if
we
can
talk
about
working
towards
a
way
that
the
planned
development
that
are
in
demand,
downtown
Evanston
can
better
benefit
residents
that
are
in
the
West
End
of
town
and
other
communities
that
are
just
never
going
to
be
in
proximity
to
downtown,
aren't
really
engage
with
downtown.
So
if
we
could
make
sure
that
that
is
something
that
we're
working
towards
as
well.
Okay,.
H
Yeah
I
think
that's
that's
really
important,
but
it's
also
a
little
bit
problematic.
So
I
think
we
need
to
approach
that
really
carefully,
because
it
may
look
like
we're
asking
a
developer
to
focus
on
on
maybe
awards
or
votes
that
they
don't
have
for
a
development.
I
don't
want
to
I
want
to
be
really
careful
in
the
way
we
construct
that
so
that
there
is
absolutely
no
confusion.
There
I
think
it's
again.
H
I
agree
with
alderman
wind
that
we
need
to
really
clarify
this
so
that
when
a
developer
comes
to
town,
they
understand
exactly
what
the
rules
are
and
how
how
their
projects
are
going
to
be
evaluated.
It's
very
frustrating
so
far,
what's
been
happening
and
I
I
hear
that
frustration,
I'm
sure
the
rest
of
you
who
have
projects
in
your
ward
hear
that
frustration
as
well
so
I
think
that's
where
we
really
need
to
spend
our
time
and
also
I'd
like
to
ask
corporation
counsel
just
about.
H
J
G
Rose
Simmons
I
did
I
want
to
stand
firm
on
pushing
that
if
there
is
any
way
around
or
looking
toward
some
innovation
so
that
we
can
include
the
broader
city.
We
are
one
city
and
if
we
only
have
the
benefit
in
proximity
to
the
development
by
nature
of
the
interests
of
our
downtown,
we're
not
going
to
see
much
of
that
activity
in
the
west
end
of
the
city.
H
Well
sure
yeah,
my
intention
was
not
to
was
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
proceeding
carefully
and
legally
I
mean
I
can
certainly
see
that
perhaps
the
what-whatever
benefit
occurs
on
site
and
does
reach
a
larger
audience.
Then
then
that
particular
development
might
be
I
just
think
we
need
to.
We
need
to
just
be
really
careful
that
we're
not
we're
not
opening
the
door
without
having
thought
this
through
really
well,
but
I
absolutely
agree
with
you,
I'm
not
criticizing
you.
H
H
J
D
D
So
if
we
can
get
agreement
from
the
developer
that
they
think
it's
a
good
idea
and
that
we're
not
piling
on
extra
public
benefits,
I,
don't
see
that
there's
any
problem,
and
so
I
think
we
could
be
innovative
and,
like
you
say,
miss
Mason,
cub,
I'm,
sure
we're
not
the
only
ones
that
are
having
this
discussion
and
let's
be
creative
and
give
it
a
try.
I
know
the
last
time
we
suggested
this.
We
got
shouted
down,
so
let's
be
brief
and
creative
and
smart,
and
also
we
we
do
support
Downtown
Development.
D
A
I
clear
I've
phoned
a
need
for
clarification,
just
in
that
beginning
paragraph
where
we
have
to
decide
whether
the
proposed
plan
development
features
have
sufficient
merit
to
justify
the
granting
of
the
site
allowances
and
then
the
number
one
in
particularly
the
size
and
capacity
of
the
development
public
benefit
or
provision.
I
guess
I,
wouldn't
know
how
to
apply
that.
So
so
we
look
forward
to
a
full
presentation
and
good
opportunity
for
questions
at
our
next
meeting.
Okay.
A
If
we're
just
holding
it,
that's
just
a
okay
and
that's
all
yep.
Okay,
all
right
ordinance,
3-0
19,
amending
a
portion
of
the
city
code,
section
6,
15
13,
and
this
is
for
the
redevelopment
overlay
district,
addressing
special
uses
plan,
Commission
and
staff
recommend
adopting
ordinances
or
13
19,
and
this
would
create
a
new
section.
A
D
I
So
the
questions,
what
challenges
we're
seeing
to
what
precipitated
this
essentially
the
overlay
district
says
permitted
in
special
uses-
are
that
in
the
underlying
zoning
are
permitted
uses.
So
when
there's
a
drive
through
things
that
we
typically
have
as
a
special
use
in
other
districts,
that
wasn't
the
case
here
so
and
if
another
drive-through
restaurant
wanted
to
come
through
the
carwash
that's
currently
proposed.
I
Those
things
should
be
special
uses
as
they
are
in
other
districts,
but
we
don't
have
enough
history
on
this
overlay
district
to
know
why
what
the
intention
was
at
a
time
to
make
these
both
special
and
permitted
uses.
So
we're
just
recommending
that
you
make
the
language
consistent
with
the
underlying
zoning.
I
A
Okay,
all
in
favor
of
approving
introduction
of
this
ordinance,
please
say:
aye
aye
opposed
no
all
right,
we'll
introduce
that
oops.
Thank
you.
So
for
our
fifth
item,
we
have
Mike
Noonan,
who
wants
to
speak
to
item
b5
and
that's
going
to
be
granting
a
special
use
permit
for
a
medical
office
located
at
7:05,
Main
Street
in
the
b2
business
district
and
in
the
dempster
main
overlay
district.
Thank
you
good.
L
Evening,
my
name
for
the
record
is
Mike.
Noonan
I
live
at
1440
West
Flournoy
Street
in
Chicago
and
I
wanted
to
speak
in
support
of
this
special
use
that
was
recommended
by
the
CBA.
The
special
uses
for
a
medical
office,
chiropractor
office,
chiropractic
office
I'm,
a
patient
of
dr.
Sean,
curry
the
petitioner
in
this
matter
and
I'm
also
a
Zoning
attorney,
but
I'm
kind
of
here
as
a
patient
at
not
I'm,
not
his
zoning
attorney,
but
I'm
I'm
familiar
with
the
process,
so
I
wanted
to
show
my
support.
I
know
there
was
some
debate
regarding.
L
You
know
the
striking
of
balance
between
allowing
a
special
use
in
an
overlay
district-
that's
not
strictly
retail
and
filling
a
vacant
space
and
that's
a
debate
that
a
lot
of
communities
across
the
country
are
dealing
with.
But
for
my
own
anecdotal,
admittedly
anecdotal
evidence
as
a
patient
of
dr.
Curry's.
I
spend
a
lot
of
used
to
see
him
twice
a
week
and
on
Saturdays
I
would
come
to
his
office.
L
A
Thank
you,
so
Tony,
Board
of
Appeals
and
city
staff
recommend
adoption
of
ordinance,
7-0
19,
granting
special
use
approval
for
a
ground-floor
medical
office,
Evanston
Family,
Chiropractic
and
Wellness
Center
in
the
b-two
district
and
Dempster.
My
main
overlay
district,
the
applicant,
has
complied
with
all
zoning
requirements
and
meets
all
of
the
standards
of
a
special
use
for
this
district.
Do
I
have
a
motion.
G
B
Just
a
few
comments
I.
Obviously
there
are
a
number
of
people
they
supporting
and
and
some
some
others
who
have
reservations.
I've
talked
to
the
landlord
a
number
of
times
and
I
know
that
they've
been
trying
to
find
a
tenant.
This
isn't
the
first
one
who's
knocked
on
the
door,
and
sometimes
you
don't
get
things
in
a
perfect
world,
so
I'm
hopeful
that
the
I
know
that
the
configuration
is
kind
of
setting
out
the
retail
area
in
the
front.
B
So
I'm
hoping
it
looks,
you
know,
so
it
presents
in
such
a
way
that
it's
consistent
with
you
know
the
the
retail
you
know
rest
of
the
block,
but
you
know
in
the
end
you
know
an
occupied
space
is
better
than
not
an
occupied
space
and
I.
Think
all
from
the
perspective
of
the
prior
use.
This
is
probably
a
net
improvement,
because
the
showroom
while
it
was
beautiful,
had
very
very
little
traffic,
at
least
as
far
as
I
could
perceive
so
I.