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Okay,
any
other
comments,
then
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
opposed
no
all
right.
So
that's
move
for
introduction.
Then
item
P
2.
This
is
ordnance
34-0
20,
amending
the
zoning
map
to
remove
2044
Wesley
Avenue
from
the
West
Evanston
West
overlay
district
plan.
Commission
recommends
denial
and
staff
recommends
that
City
Council
consider
the
intent
of
the
West
Evanston
master
plan
and
logistical
developmental
development
issues
at
2040
for
Wesley
and
surrounding
parcels
to
determine
if
it
is
appropriate
to
remove
the
West
Evanston
overlay
regulations
for
future
development
at
this
site.
A
Special
attention
should
be
given
to
the
plan
and
overlay
details
that
require
the
extension
of
Jackson,
Avenue
and
Wesley
Avenue.
That
should
one
day
become
complete
through
streets.
If
deemed
approval
for
the
removal
of
the
West
Evanston
overlay,
the
site
would
follow
the
zoning
regulations
for
the
underlining
are
four
general
residential
district.
E
A
E
E
E
Thank
you,
so
this
kind
of
gives
you
a
view
of
the
property
here.
The
green
area
here
running
all
the
way
down.
You've
got
the
public
storage
facility,
the
two
large
buildings
there.
Next
to
that,
you
also
have
the
parking
lot
next
to
that
which
you
see
the
cars
parked
on
just
on
Simpson
Street
on
the
south
side
of
Simpson
Street,
that's
actually
a
car
part
belonging
to
the
Walgreens
property
across
the
road,
and
that's
where
the
staff
parking
is
for
that
building
across
the
road.
E
E
We
think
that
the
overall
you
know
goals
of
the
the
West
Evanston
overlay.
We've
tried
to
keep
to
those
as
much
as
possible.
We
think
we
are.
We
are
maintaining
the
vast
majority
of
things
that
were
asked
for
and
were
required
for
in
the
overlay
district.
We've
kept
all
all
this
to
town
houses,
because
we
believe
that's
a
type
of
property
type
that
Evers
to
needs.
It
requires
they'll
be
affordable
from
a
point
of
view
that
they
will
be
moderately
priced
entry-level,
new
construction
homes
in
the
475
to
525
range.
E
There
will
also
be
three
of
these
that
will
be
affordable
housing,
so
this
is
a
site
that
has
never
been
built
on.
It
has
never
been
developed,
we're
not
tearing
down
any
houses,
we're
not
putting
anybody
out
of
their
house,
we're
taking
an
old
disused
railway
line
that
has
sat
idle
and
we're
putting
it
into
good
use,
we're
bringing
it
up
to
up
to
the
standards
of.
Today.
We've
worked
with
the
fire
department
who
worked
at
the
staff
of
the
city
to
come
up
with
a
plan.
E
This
is
probably
your
fourth
or
fifth
iteration
of
the
plan
to
get
it
to
a
situation
which
the
fire
department
has
approved,
that
the
Public
Works
Department
have.
You
know
conditionally
approved
it,
and
the
main
things
that
we've
done
to
meet
the
overlay.
The
guiding
principles
of
the
overlay
district
is:
we've
created
a
green
area
which
was,
in
the
you,
see
the
landscape
area
on
the
top
right
created
a
green
area
here,
we'll
create
pathways
from
Green,
Bay,
Road,
all
the
way
to
Wesley
and
to
Jackson
walkways
pathways
linking
the
two.
E
We
will
have
a
private
drive
or
you
know,
an
alleyway
as
such
for
entry
to
the
townhouses
from
the
rear.
So
we
will
connect
Wesley
with
Jackson
and
we
will
also
have
walkability
in
the
neighborhoods
will
also
extend
Jackson
Avenue
as
it
goes
to
the
end,
the
property-
we
don't
own,
the
property
behind
us.
So
we
can't
extend
any
further,
but
it
will
allow
for
future
to
be
extended
all
the
way
to
Simpson.
E
So
again,
one
of
the
guiding
principles
of
the
overlay
district
and
we've
tried
to
keep
as
much
as
possible
and
I've
studied
them
extensively
and
we've
moderated
our
plans
to
work
with
the
overlay
district
as
best
as
possible,
and
we
think
it's
a
very
reasonable
plan.
We
think
it's
very
suitable
for
the
neighborhood
we
it's
it.
These
are
gonna,
be
three
stories
three
and
a
half
stories
tall.
2,000
square
feet:
each
they're
not
oversized
or
over
developed
or
over
contrived,
shall
we
say,
and
so
we
will
connect.
E
Some
of
the
guiding
principles
is
with
the
overlay,
so
we'll
connect
a
new
pathway
and
a
new
roadway
from
Wesley
to
Jackson
will
extend
the
existing
Jackson
to
the
end
of
the
street
will
create
the
new
green
space
along
Green,
Bay,
Road
new
trees,
some
new
landscaping
along
the
pathways
and
will
create
also
extend
Jackson
Avenue,
as
we've
mentioned,
and
then
we'll
provide
28
new
homes
without
demolishing
an
existing
housing
stock
provide
three
new,
affordable
houses
and
25
moderately
priced
houses.
We
believe
in
475
to
525
$2000
in
a
mortgage
a
month.
E
F
Our
an
attorney
for
John
and
I
would
just
say
that
if
the
committee
has
seen
the
staffs
recommendation
to
not
remove
the
overlay,
but
the
overlay
evidently
had
some
possibly
unattainable
goals
in
it
and
it
was
written
evidently
in
2007,
and
it
may
be
time
to
rethink
that.
So
if,
if
the
Committee
this
evening
would
not
remove
the
overlay,
then
I
think
it
would
have
to
be
done
in
the
future
on
a
on
a
two-step
basis,
a
partial
release
of
the
overlay
with
a
plan,
development,
application.
Okay,.
B
There's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
narrative
in
the
packet
which
I
appreciate
but
I'm,
taking
away
from
that
that
as
a
practical
matter,
it
doesn't
seem
like
much
can
be
done
with
this
without
unless
this
is
done
without
compiling
other
properties,
some
of
which
aren't
for
sale.
Is
that
a
fair
all-in
kind
of
end
of
the
road
assessment
I.
D
Believe
that,
well,
when
the
West
Evanston
plan
was
adopted,
the
idea
was
that
these
many
of
these
properties
would
become
available.
They
were
real
wide
ways.
There
was
a
general
comment:
ownership
of
a
handful
of
the
the
properties
and
generally
the
economy
was
doing
well
at
that
point,
so
acquiring
any
property
you
would
need
seemed
like
a
reasonable
assumption
to
make
okay.
D
B
C
G
H
Have
to
admit:
I
am
NOT
up
to
speed
on
this
other
than
what
I've
read
in
this
packet.
I
don't
know
if
other
people
have
been
following
this,
if
I
don't
know,
if
you
have
I
would
love
to
have
some
insight,
but
I'm
not
sure
why
this
being
embraced
and
I
my
what
I
would
like
is
I
I
would
like
not
to
not
to
dismiss
this
I
think
that
would
be
a
shame
to
lose
this
opportunity.
H
D
So
the
city
interim
city
manager
story
just
shared
all
the
memory.
Simmons
is
supportive
of
the
development
that
would
follow
this
potential
map
amendment,
assuming
that
they
would
be
subject
to
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
which
they
would
be
since
they
have
not
submitted
a
plan
development
application
at
this
time
and
they
would
come
under
the
current
iho
rules.
I'm.
H
A
F
H
Just
plan
development
we're
just
introducing
we're
gonna
a
lot
of
work.
I'm
gonna
do
a
lot
of
work
on
this
before
it
comes
up
for
Action,
Council
and
hopefully,
I'll
have
been
in
school
too.
So
I
I,
don't
think
we
like
alderman
Wilson,
says
there's
no
danger
in
introducing
this.
We
have
work
to
do
nothing
can
happen.
Well,
it
just
sits
here
for
two
weeks.
E
H
E
I
have
an
option
to
purchase
this
property
here.
There
are
some
issues
with
this
property,
so
it's
a
much
more
difficult
piece
to
bite
off.
Initially
I
had
planned,
initially
I
plan
to
purchase
the
entire
property
at
one
go.
But
after
we
did
our
phase
two
and
we
did
our
environmental
assessments,
we
we
just
decided
to
purchase
for
the
moment
this
entire
piece
here.
E
So
part
of
we've
done
phase
2
soil
tests
in
this
area
here,
and
there
is
going
to
be
quite
extensive
remediation
that
we
will
need
to
do
on
this
property
and
again
me
as
the
owner
of
this
property,
pursuant
to
getting
a
plan
for
townhouses,
the
townhouses
will
pay
for
that
remediation.
It's
not
something
we're
asking
the
city
to
to
pay
for
it's,
not
something
we're
looking
for.
E
E
That's
something
that
you
know
this
development
will
pay
to
remove
as
well
and
replace
it
with
green
space.
So
again,
that's
something
that
as
the
property
owner,
if
we
can
get
this
plan
or
very
close
to
it
done
you
know,
it'll
pay
and
it'll
pay
little
more
than
pay
for
the
cost
of
the
work.
That's
required
on
the
site,
remediate
the
site
and
bring
this
into.
You
know
into
good
use
with
with
the
community.
You
know:
okay.
G
E
H
E
D
G
D
E
E
The
the
issue
with
the
property
is
that
the
underlying
zoning
is
r4,
but
there's
an
overlay
on
the
district
that
requires
us
to
put
in
a
road
linking
wesley
to
jackson,
and
it
wouldn't,
if
that,
if,
if
the
road
is
meant
to
be
built
between
those
streets,
there's
nowhere
to
put
town
houses,
there's
nowhere
to
put
anything
so
jackson
is
moving
jackson
all
the
way
up
to
simpson.
That's
fine!
E
We're
going
to
keep
along
those
sort
of
lines
we're
going
to
leave
enough
road
and
we're
going
to
create
an
office
street
to
move
it
that
way.
But
the
reason
we
want
the
overlay
removed
is
so
that
we
don't
have
to
build
a
street
between
Wesley
and
Jackson
a
public
street
and
that
we
would
provide
a
private
driver
and
a
private
and
a
walkway
and
linking
the
two
right
there.
Okay,.
G
Madam
chair
I
guess
I
I
feel
like
I'd
like
to
keep
this
in
committee.
I.
E
B
Actually
that
I
do
kind
of
want
to
move
it
along
and
part
of
the
in
reading
through
the
materials
you
know
what
I
hear
them
saying
is
that
they
want
to
make
sure
that
they
can
get
through
this
step
before
they
incur
all
the
costs.
For
the
you
know,
really
a
particularly
expensive
part,
so
I
think
kind
of
putting
them
to
task
for
the
balance
of
it
defeats
the
purpose
of
what
they're
trying
to
accomplish
and
frankly,
even
if
they
let's
say
he
decided
to
walk
away
from
it.
B
What
they're
suggesting
seems
like
this
will
help
facilitate
something
happening
with
the
problem
in
any
with
the
property.
In
any
event,
so
my
inclination
is
to
kind
of
keep
it
going
forward
to
make
this
change
for
this
property.
So
something
happens
with
it.
Hopefully
something
awesome
that
you
guys
come
up
with,
or
even
if
that
doesn't
work
out,
somebody
else
could
come
along
and
not
have
to.
You
know
jump
through
this
hurdle
to
get
something
done
with
the
property.
So
that's!
That's.
G
You
know
the
the
impact
not
only
on
Green
Bay
Road,
but
also
I
mean
that
that
property.
When
you
stand
there,
it's
absorbing
a
lot
of
water
and
it's
sitting
up
here
and
I'd
like
to
hear
from
our
staff
what
the
effect
of
that
might
be
because
I
don't
know
and
I'm,
not
that's
not
my
area
of
and
Bertie's.
So
I
would
like
to
know
that,
and
if
and
I'd
also
like
to
know
about
the
remediation
about
the
cost
of
remediation.
G
We
on
on
properties
like
this,
it's
very
difficult
to
build
residential
you're,
not
just
putting
a
layer
of
asphalt
over
the
over
the
affected
land,
you're
actually
going
to
be
building
on
it
and
people
are
going
to
be
walking
on
it
in
their
bare
feet.
So
there's
there's
extra
steps.
You
need
to
go
through
I'd.
G
E
We're
aware
of
the
environment
that
guys,
we've
already
gone
out
and
hired
an
environmental
consultant,
and
we
were
working
with
them
to
create
a
plan
and
with
the
city
to
create
a
plan
that
will
work
for
everybody
that
is
safe.
I
live
in
Evanston
I've,
three
children
in
school
here
I,
don't
want
to
be
at
school
one
day
and
find
out.
Somebody
is
complaining
about
survival
like
I'm
part
of
the
community.
E
G
H
Well,
I'm
I
mean
these.
These
folks
know
what
they
have
to
do.
I
mean
they.
They
will
tell
you
I,
think
you
it
might
help
alderman
Fisk.
If
you
would
give
her
the
details
in
writing,
of
who
your
engineers
are
etc,
and
we
demand
we
demand
these
specifications
from
any
builder
I
mean
it's
absolutely
required.
It's.
E
A
G
I
I
understand
that
Aldrin
Rainey
I
have
we
heard
from
any
of
the
neighbors
about
potentially
flooding
or
have
we
heard
from
our
public
works
director
about
the
impact
on
Green
Bay
Road
I
would
just
like
to
know
that
I
mean
I
was
asked
if
I
had
questions.
These
are
my
questions.
So
if
you
want
to
move
it
to
Council,
that's
fine
I
would
prefer
to
keep
it
in
committee.
Yeah.
A
B
D
D
A
A
Okay,
so
we
have
one
more
item
on
the
agenda.
This
is
ordinance
30
5-0
does
20
amending
title
6
ground
floor
uses
in
the
d2
district
plan.
Commission
and
staff
recommend
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
to
modify
currently
permitted
ground
floor
uses,
including
offices
and
financial
institutions,
to
special
uses
in
order
to
encourage
active
ground
floor
uses
that
promote
pedestrian
activity
at
an
economically
vibrant
downtown
corridor
in
the
D
to
downtown
retail
core
district.
Do
I
have
a
motion
for
introduction.
H
B
I,
just
given
the
challenge,
this
is
that
a
number
of
property
owners
are
having
getting
their
spaces
filled.
I
have
some
reservations
on
this,
but
you
know
I,
guess
I'd
be
interested
in
hearing
what
my
other
colleagues
who
have
constituents
downtown
have
to
think
so.
Moving
into
council
wouldn't
be
a
wouldn't
be
a
bad
thing.
D
Believe
that
this
just
brings
the
rest,
we
have
a
similar
special
use
requirement
for
main
dempster
area.
We
we
hear
from
merchants
their
frustration
about
the
quote
non-active
ground
for
uses
financial
institutions,
things
like
Charles
Chuck,
not
to
pick
on
Charles
Schwab,
but
those
types
of
uses
that
don't
necessarily
promote
exciting
storefronts
and
active
storefronts.
We
I
think
we
had
a
similar
discussion
a
few
years
ago
about
artist
studios
at
the
ground
floor.
D
A
D
I
think
generally,
they
don't
like
to
rent
to
these
types
of
uses,
but
they
have
to
find
a
tenant,
sometimes
and
and
that's
a
that
is
a
tenant
and
I
think
we
have
to
weigh
as
a
community.
Do
we
want
a
vacant
storefront,
something
with
a
maybe
less
than
desirable
use,
but
it
still
is
a
use
in
our
in
our
downtown
and.
D
I
think
generally
people
my
experience
over
watching
how
special
uses
work
in
Evanston
generally,
the
people
who
apply
for
special
uses
have
done
their
homework
to
determine
if
they're
good
use,
I
think
particularly
special
uses
when
they
know
that
the
reason
for
the
special
use
is
to
create
a
vibrant
and
active
downtown.
They
make
efforts
to
plan
their
storefront
to
plan
their
space
to
try
to
create
more
activity.
D
Recently,
when
we
had
a
chiropractic
office
on
Main
Street,
he
he
made
a
point
to
say:
I'm
gonna
put
some
retail
space
in
the
front
I'm
going
to
do
some
things
that
will
promote
some
add
more
active
uses
that
make
it
more
interesting
to
walk
along
the
street
and
look
in
the
window
and
see
something
so
I
think
that
the
special
use
piece
has
helped
us
manage
those
kinds
of
things
in
terms
of
creating
certain
fenestration
and
windows
and
activity.
Without
that
we
don't
necessary.
Have
some
of
those
controls.
A
B
Well,
one
of
the
challenges,
though,
is
with
situations
like
that
it
ends
up
being
very,
very,
very
costly
for
the
person
just
to
even
you
know,
go
through
the
process
and
oftentimes.
It
doesn't
work
out
so
they've
expended
probably
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
to
find
out.
They
can
be
a
tenant.
So
you
know
that
would
not
be
fun.
B
So
I
tend
to
try
to
lean
towards
more.
You
know:
well
yeah
certainty,
so
you
know
I'd.
Rather,
you
know
with
rather
than
put
people
through
a
lot
of
process
have
it
you
know
defined
and
flexible.
So
that's
my
inclination,
but
again
I'm,
not
the
boss
of
the
town
town,
but
that's
just
part
of
my
concerns.
G
Just
say
anecdotally:
some
years
ago
there
was
a
property
owner
of
one
retail
building
in
the
downtown,
and
people
would
complain
that
the
there
were
many
vacant
storefronts
and
this
particular
property
owner
order
only
wanted
to
rent
to
ground-floor
dental
offices,
and
it
was
difficult
to
explain
to
people
that
property
owners
can
do
that
if
they
want
to
now,
can
we
force
someone
to
go
out
and
find
a
retail
or
force
someone
to
sort
of
comply
with
our
our
vision
for
the
downtown?
G
It
would
be
nice
if
we
could
do
that,
but
we,
but
we
can't
and
I
I
hear
what
alderman
Wilson
is
saying
and
and
I
would
rather
have
a
vacant
a
occupied
building
than
a
vacant.
Storefront
I
think
that's
really
important,
as
people
do
seem
to
react
to
the
vacant.
Storefront
I
also
am
Not
sure,
with
everything
that
we've
heard
and
those
of
you
who've
come
to
the
First.
Ward
meetings
have
heard
the
reports
of
where
our
small
retail
is
going
in
the
downtown.
G
A
H
C
H
Was
absolutely
no
activity
on
the
street,
and
so
it
I
know
what
it's
like
not
to
have
any
activity
on
the
street
and
it's
a
very
difficult
thing:
I
mean
you
could
have
beauty,
shops
up
and
down
your
street
and
if
the
beauty
shops
aren't
open
during
the
day
or
randomly
open.
That's
a
problem.
I,
don't
know
at
the
end,
I
think
a
small
post
office.
You
could
have
a
whole
lot
of
small
post
offices,
closing
small
post
office.
I,
don't
know
what
the
answer
is.
You
just
have
to
a
tags
bakery
and
the
venison's.
G
Well,
for
example,
we're
replacing
audio
consultants
as
the
owner
has
retired
and
as
as
closed
and
it's
being
replaced
with
a
childcare
center
and
that
set.
H
G
C
G
I
I
would
like
to
invite
of
some
of
the
property
owners
and
one
of
the
larger
real
estate
agents
downtown
just
to
give
us
if
we
had
a
very
nice
conversation
over
a
year
ago
with
one
of
them,
we
learned
a
lot
about
who's,
looking
at
space
in
the
downtown,
how
that
space
is
looking
to
be
utilized
and
and
the
effect
on
the
larger
downtown.
So
I'd
like
to
talk
to
Annie,
Coakley
and
real
estate
agent
about
that
and
invite
them
to
come
to
committee.
So.