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A
A
Thank
you,
so
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
approval
of
the
minutes.
Could
I
have
a
motion
with
respect
to
the
minutes,
move
approval.
Second,
all
right
do
we
have
we
have
to
have
a
roll
call.
D
A
E
A
C
Okay
and
then
it
looks
like
you
have
two
others,
christina
martin.
C
F
I'm
here
today,
I
first
of
all
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
to
present.
My
name
is
tom
polonis,
since
1998
june
of
1998,
I've
owned
and
resided
in
the
edmonton
condominium
located
at
1319,
chicago
avenue
is
adjacent
to
the
1327
chicago
avenue
property
and
it's
near
the
528
greenwood
property.
I'm
here
today
to
speak
to
the
ordinance
35.
F
A
F
F
The
third
thing
I'd
like
to
comment
on
is
something
that
I
didn't
mention
previously,
but
the
business
has
been
operation
for
over
20
over
20
years
and
in
that
time
mr
shapiro
has
run
this
in
what
I
would
call
an
unobtrusive
manner.
In
other
words,
his
business
doesn't
in
no
apparent
way
just
corrupt
the
neighborhood.
F
I've
lived
there
for
over
20
years
and
we
see
basically
no
non-neighborly
behavior
as
a
result
of
him
having
this
business
regardless
of
the
number
of
employees.
I
know
he
didn't
start
off
with
as
many
employees,
but
with
a
number
that
he's
recently.
F
G
F
Is
personally
has
been
providing
tax
support,
services,
property
tax
services
and,
on
a
personal
note,
that
has
been
very
helpful
to
myself
and
others
in
the
association,
and
we
would
like
to
see
the
business
stay
put
we
don't
want
to
see
it
have
to
move
and
we'd
like
to
keep
it
in
close
proximity.
F
The
last
item
is
really
a
comment
on
an
item
that
I
saw
on
the
agenda
and
that
is
that
it
looked
like
the.
I
know
that
the
city
planning
and
zoning
staff
had
some
concerns
about
the
zoning
request.
F
The
staff
felt
like
in
a
quote
feels
that
up
to
15
employees
at
east
of
the
locations,
1327
and
528
would
have
a
cumulative
negative
effect,
potentially
creating
a
precedent
for
commercial
use
in
residential
neighborhoods
and
diminished
property
values,
and
I
have
comments
just
on
a
couple
of
those
things
on.
It
seems
like
none
of
those
things
have
materialized
in
20
plus
years.
F
In
fact,
on
the
last
item,
our
property
values
continue
to
rise.
So
I
really
don't
see
any
reason
to
expect
that
negative
things
of
this
nature
are
going
to
happen,
such
as
the
increase
or
decrease
in
properties.
So,
in
summary,
risk
runs
this
business
in
a
good
manner.
That's
con!
It's
unobtrusive
to
the
into
the
neighborhood.
He
has
all
appearances
he's
a
good
neighbor.
He
provides
valuable
services.
We
appreciate
him
being
close
by
to
do
that
and
in
total
we
would
support
her.
F
A
G
I
am
I'm
speaking
on
item
d,
one
which
is
the
just
for
discussion
about
the
use
of
the
city
retained
traffic
consultant
for
plan
development
review.
G
G
So
two
people
are
being
paid
to
do
the
same
thing
number
one
but
number
two.
The
way
it's
written,
at
least
it
seems
like
this
service
could
be
open-ended.
There's
no
restrictions
from
what
I
can
read
how
this
is
going
to
be
used.
How
this
consultant
is
going
to
be
used.
G
It
just
seems
like
an
open-ended
check
being
written
to
somebody
once
an
rfp
is
sent
out
and
personally
I
don't
see
any
need
for
it.
You've
got
a
developer
who's
coming
in
he's
supposed
to
provide
that
kind
of
service
to
the
city,
and
the
city
is
supposed
to
be
able
to.
G
So
why
do
it
twice
and
if
you
are
going
to
do
it,
maybe
the
developers
should
be
back
charged
whatever
this
service
costs
the
city?
Thank
you.
A
A
Now,
we'll
move
on
to
items
for
consideration
I'll,
just
read
them
in
p1
ordinance,
63021,
granting
a
special
use
permit
for
a
wholesale
goods
establishment
located
at
1731
howard
street
in
the
c1
commercial
district,
monte,
monte,
lamar
bread
company.
A
All
right
discussion.
B
B
B
Your
yeah
yeah,
okay,
so
are
they
not
here,
I'm
assuming.
B
B
C
Well,
as
the
memo
summarizes
they're
a
wholesale
bakery
business,
they
it's
a
special
use
in
this
district.
They
provide
breads
and
pastries
and
other
baked
goods
to
restaurants,
businesses
that
sell
bread,
so
they
have
a
commercial
kitchen.
They
have
typical
bakery
hours
and
the
biggest
issue
that
we
saw
was
making
sure
that
the
deliveries
are
on
howard
street
when
they're
in
the
early
morning.
So
it's
not
to
impact
the
adjacent
residential.
B
And
was
this:
was
this
property
vacant
for
quite
a
while
or
is
this?
Do
you
not
know
that
I
think.
C
A
A
A
Does
anyone
hi
miss
rucker?
Does
anyone?
Yes,
we
do
have
some
questions
from.
Would
you
like
to
to
make
a
short
description
of
your
business
before
we
have
questions
for
you?
Yes,.
I
So
I'm
well,
I
opened
up
a
microblading
salon,
downtown
evanston,
it's
just
strictly
permanent
makeup,
doing
microblading,
ombre
brows
and
lip
blush.
I
won't
do
any
like
small
tattoos
or
major
tattoos,
I'm
just
strictly
working
with
eyebrows
and
lips.
J
So
I
think,
in
your
letter
it
states
two
clients
per
day.
Is
that
right,
yeah,
so
I'm
interested
I'm
not
real
familiar
with
the
whole
with
the
business.
But
apart
from
what
you've
stated
here,
I
I
just
want
to
know
about
sustainability
and
stability
with
that
sort
of
clientele
and
if
we
have
any,
if
you
could
speak
to
that
or
if,
if
we've
done
any
other
research
regarding
sustainability
with,
if
we're
granting
special
use
with
two
clients
a
day
how
sustainable
that
is
so.
I
With
two
plans
a
day,
I'm
basically
charging
650
dollars
per
client.
It
takes
me
about
three
hours
to
do
each
client,
so
I
feel,
like
you
know,
doing
two
to
three
clients
a
day
will
really
sustain
me
simply
because
I'm
the
only
person
that
will
be
working
there.
A
J
All
right,
I
have
one
more,
is
it
so?
Are
we
just
looking
at
a
special
use
permit,
or
is
there
also
an?
Is
there
anything
else?
It's
just
just
special
use
right,
just
special.
A
Use
yeah
council
member
fleming.
H
Yeah,
I
just
was
going
to
say
that
we-
I
don't
know
when
it
was
johanna,
probably
knows,
but
we
just
approved
these
kind
of
establishments
because
before
we
had
outlawed
any
kind
of
tattooing
or
whatever-
and
this
is
considered
tattooing
because
it
is
a
permanent
miniature
eyebrows,
but
it
is
a
permanent
color.
So
that's
why
it
falls
under
tattooing
and
they
are
very
popular.
And
so
congratulations
to
you
for
opening
up
your
salon
here
in
evanston,
and
I
will
just
say
I,
while
I'm
not
a
customer
people,
I
know
have
been
customers.
H
I
think
it's
the
kind
of
thing
where
you
can
go
somewhere
that
maybe
isn't
licensed
and
you
do
not
have
a
great
experience
and
the
cost
is
probably
a
little
cheaper.
So
the
fact
that
she
is
thinking
through
you
know
what's
again
not
having
done
it,
which
seems
like
the
appropriate
way
to
do
it
and
that
it
takes
a
lot
of
time
and
she's
charging
an
appropriate
price
just
gives
me
confidence
that
you
know.
H
H
I
A
Okay,
councilmember
reed
did
you
have
a
question
I'll.
A
Thank
you
so
much
guys.
Okay,
so
I
think
our
all
the
comments
have
been
completed.
Ms
knighton,
would
you
call
the
role.
D
D
A
A
Okay,
all
right!
This
is
ordinance
35021,
granting
a
special
use
for
an
office
use
richard
shapiro
attorney
at
law
at
1327,
chicago
avenue
and
528
greenwood
street
in
the
r5
general
residential
district.
M
A
All
right
all
right,
given
the
fact
that
this
is
in
the
third
ward,
I'm
going
to
take
a
point
of
privilege
and
speak
to
this
special
use
for
a
number
of
reasons.
I
am
very
much
opposed
to
this.
A
I
recognize
that
mr
shapiro
has
been
a
good
neighbor
and
has
maintained
his
pr
his
properties
very
very
nicely,
but
for
20
years
he
has
been
operating
a
business
in
a
residential
area
and
but
for
the
fact
that
our
city
staff
received
a
notification
of
this,
we
would
not
have
known
he
has
been
in
violation
of
cook
county's,
our
zoning
ordinance
and
cook
county
law.
Tax
designation
for
all
of
these
years
he's
a
tax
appeal
lawyer.
A
I
think
that
this
is
this
is
like
breaking
our
laws
and
then
asking
permission
afterwards.
I
really
don't
think
that
we
should
set
that
precedent.
In
addition,
I
I'm
very
concerned
about
that.
The
precedent
that
is
created
by
setting
by
granting
the
special
use-
this
is
a
very
intense
use
for
an
offices.
A
A
A
I
also
don't
like
the
precedent
that
is
set
that
someone
does
not
have
to
comply
with
provide
ada
facilities
at
the
main
location
of
their
business.
Mr
shapiro
is
suggesting
that
he'll
buy
he'll,
rent
a
space
and
have
it
operate
as
a
satellite,
rather
than
have
this
ada
compliance
at
the
main
center
of
his
business.
I
think
that
sets
a
terrible
precedent
as
well
so
for,
and
I
would
like
to
comment
on
one
other
issue.
A
There
are
90
of
90
residences
there
and
those
all
went
in
about
15
years
ago
and
they've
held
their
value
and
are
are
those
are
families
that
are
living
at
ground
level.
This
is
an
area
that
perhaps
these
two
houses
might
not
be
sold
a
single
family,
but
because
it's
r5
they
could
be
divided
up
into
apartments
and
provide
another
type
of
housing
in
an
area
where
we're
always
looking
for
more
more
housing
types
for
people.
A
So,
for
all
of
those
reasons,
I
you
know-
and
I
I
cannot
stress
enough-
how
much
I
feel
that
we
should
not
grant
a
special
use
to
someone
who's
been
in
violation
of
our
zoning
ordinance.
A
lawyer
who's
been
in
violation
of
our
zoning
ordinance
that
we
should
not
set
this
precedent
of
allowing
someone
to
have
violated
our
law
for
so
long
and
then
allowing
them
to
do
this.
A
Council,
member,
I
don't
know
which
of
you
turned
on
first
council
member
revell
and
then
council
member
reed.
A
B
So
maybe
attorney
ruggy-
I
don't
know
if
you
can
answer
this,
but
to
aldermen
or
to
council
member
wins
point
this
gentleman
being
a
property
tax,
appeal
attorney
and
operating
this
business
regardless
of
being
a
prop,
but
especially
having
the
subject
matter.
Expertise.
B
N
You
know
I'm
not
going
to
opine
on
the
criminal
code
I'll
leave
that
to
the
state's
attorney,
but
offhand
I
I
don't
know
that
would
be
something
that
the
state's
attorney's
office
would
have
to
look
into.
B
Okay
and
then
well
speaking
of
that
us
getting
the
money,
is
there
a
potential
that
you
know
we
don't
we
hold
this
or
we
don't
approve
it
now
and
there's
a
settlement
where
he
pays
out
some
amount
of
money
that
he
would
have
paid
out
to
the
city,
and
I
mean
we
could
advocate
on
behalf
of
the
school
districts,
but
particularly
the
city
for
the
for
the
back
taxes
that
he
may
have
been
liable
for.
N
Earlier
alex
ruggy
assistant
city
attorney,
that
would
be
have
something
we
would
have
to
discuss.
If
that's
something
that
the
council
wants
us
to
look
into,
we
can
go
ahead
and
reach
out
to
mr
shapiro
in
his
office
and
see
if
it's
something
he's
interested
in
I
I
would
want
the
county
to
be
involved
in
those
discussions,
so
we
might
have
to
defer
to
the
county
first
to
see
what
their
action
plan
is.
B
Well,
you
know,
regardless
of
what
the
county's
action
plan
is.
I
don't
know
what
the
will
of
this
body
is,
but
if
he
wanted
this,
this
special
use,
you
know,
I
don't
think
we're
obligated
to
give
it
to
him,
and
I
don't
know
if
we
could
use
that
as
a
tool
to
get
additional
revenue
but
I'll
I'll.
Leave
that
that's
not
a
huge
issue
for
me
and.
O
B
Lastly,
I
I
am
supportive,
generally
of
you
know
the
the
point
of
walkability
was
was
mentioned
earlier.
I
think
it.
You
know
what
creates
an
even
more
walkable
city
is
when
you
have
mixed
use
within
neighborhoods.
I
don't
think
a
property
tax
appeal,
lawyer's
office
is
exactly
what
neighbors
need
to
walk
to
in
their
in
their
community.
So
I
don't
know
if
this
is
again
a
if
we
were
to
provide
a
special
use
or
some
kind
of
variance.
B
I
don't
think
this
is
necessarily
the
project
to
do
that
for
the
the
business
to
do
that
for,
but
but
I
do
think
we
need
to
be
flexible
generally
in
that,
so
I'm
open
to
I
mean
the
the
folks
have
been
there
for
20
20
years.
I
actually
remember
seeing
this.
This
is
almost
kind
of
an
iconic
building
as
a
kid
I
remember,
driving
past
chicago
avenue
and
I've
seen
it
so
I've.
You
know,
I
think,
we've
not
long
known
about
it.
B
It
seems
as
though,
at
least
from
the
one
neighbor
alderman
councilmember
one
would
know
better
how
the
neighbors
generally
feel
about
this
business
operating
there.
But
you
know
I'm
open
to
making
the
allowing
for
the
special
use,
particularly
if
he
pays.
If
that
the
business
pays,
the
money
that
they
should
have
paid
to
the
at
least
the
city
over
the
last
20
years,
council.
C
N
A
They
would,
he
would
be
seen
I
think
that
would
be
interpreted
as
buying
zoning
buying
a
special
use
so
and
as
much
as
I
agree
with
you
councilmember
reid,
it
would
be
good
to
get
the
money
that
he
is
he's
owed
to
all
of
us.
More
than
anything,
I
don't
want
to
set
a
precedent
here,
because
I
think
that
that
does
erode
it.
A
I
have
admired
that
house
as
well
and
and
thought,
but
what
mr
shapiro
has
done
very
effectively
was
hide
in
plain
sight,
because
he
has
no
sign
up
front,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
many
of
his
neighbors
actually
know
that
that's
there.
A
M
Well,
I
just
like
to
mention
that
the
packet
includes
evidence
that
mr
shapiro
has
notified
the
county
of
the
need
to
adjust
his
classification
of
his
property.
So
I
would
hope
that
the
county
is
going
to
the
county.
Assessor
will
follow
up
and
ensure
that
we
and
this
and
the
school
districts
receive
the
back
taxes
that
we
should
have
been
paid
all
these
years,
and
I
guess
the
other
point
I'd
just
like
to
mention.
M
I'm
I'm
disturbed
about
the
safety
issues
that
have
existed
and
seem
to
continue
to
exist
in
the
building.
I'm
looking
in
particular
at
mr
shapiro's
commitment
to
spend
an
estimated
to
220,
000
now,
finally,
to
put
in
a
sprinkler
system-
and
you
know
some
some
pretty
serious
safety
issues
that
have
been
in
place
there
for.
However
many
years,
I
I
I
think,
I'm
glad
that
there
hasn't
been
any
accident,
thus
far.
M
J
Member
kelly-
yes,
I'd
like
to
in
ask
that
our
legal
department
that
we
not
just
hope
that
the
assessor's
office
that
the
assessment
office
collects
the
taxes,
but
I
think
there's
also.
What
is
it
three
years
retroactively?
J
L
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
shapiro
is
also
on
the
line
and
available
to
answer
any
questions
that
the
council
members
may
have,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
the
nature
of
his
business
and
how
it's
operated,
because
it
really
will
answer.
I
think
a
number
of
your
questions
richard's
been
a
resident
of
evanston
for
35
years.
L
He
he
actually
bought
the
1327
chicago
avenue
house
in
1998..
He
started
his
law
practice.
He
rented
it
for
a
little
bit
of
time
before
that
his
law
practice
began
with
richard
his
mom
and
his
aunt.
L
L
In
fact,
in
evanston
he
has
provided
assistance
to
people
who
seek
to
appeal
their
property
tax
assessment
to
over
1700
evanston
residents.
In
the
last
couple
of
years.
They
come
from
every
walk
of
life
and
homeowners
in
every
single
ward,
in
evanston,
from
75
homeowners
in
the
fifth
ward
up
to
over
500
homeowners
in
the
sixth
board.
L
L
He
doesn't
get
more
than
one
or
perhaps
two
clients
a
day
who
come
to
his
office
and
in
fact,
during
the
pandemic,
even
less
than
that,
and
when
somebody
is
unable
to
come
to
the
office.
Richard
or
his
staff
will
do
house
calls
where
they
go
out,
get
the
information
from
the
people
and
then
bring
it
back
to
handle
their
property
tax
appeals.
L
L
L
L
The
same
issues
that
the
council
members
have
raised
tonight
were
also
raised
by
members
of
the
board
of
appeals,
and
they
heard
not
just
from
tom
palones,
who
is
the
president
of
the
condominium
association
richard
by
the
way,
lives
next
door
to
these
two
buildings
and
proximity
is
something
like
it.
That's
very
important
to
him
because
of
his
own
mobility
challenges
and,
and
also
another
neighbor
joe
goodman
who
owns
the
building
on
greenwood,
spoke
to
this
issue.
L
There
was
no
question
at
all
in
their
minds
and,
and
they
supported
richard's
request,
because
what
what
he
does
actually
preserves
the
residential
character
of
the
neighborhood,
and
I
think,
as
many
of
you
have
commented
when
you
go
by
those
two
buildings,
they
do
have
all
the
appearances
and
character
of
residential
buildings,
and
richard
has
no
interest
in
changing
that
at
all.
L
The
zba
unanimously
approved
richard's
special
use
application
to
be
forwarded
to
this
committee
and
he
agreed
to
several
conditions
very
important
ones,
to
address
the
interior
of
the
use
of
the
buildings.
He
reduced
the
number
that
that
he
would
ask
to
have
in
any
one
particular
date
of
15.
It
was
a
30
reduction.
L
Sure
I
will
I'd
also
like
to
address
the
issue
that
a
number
of
raised
about
the
assessment
issue.
Richard
has
my
certified
mail
sent
information
to
the
county
assessor's
office,
indicating
when
he
purchased
each
of
those.
The
the
greenwood
address
wasn't
used
until
2014
and
1327
told
the
county
assessor
exactly
when
he
purchased
them
and
that
he
stands
ready
to
pay
whatever
penalties
or
fines
or
others
may
be
associated
with.
With
that.
A
L
L
L
It's
not
a
particularly
long
period
of
time
richard
you
know
if
he,
if
he
doesn't
have
this
special
use,
he's
going
to
have
to
seriously
consider
whether
it's
better
to
just
retire
from
the
practice,
and
if
he
does,
I
think
evanston
and
the
comprehensive
zoning
ordinance
will
be
the
worst
for
it,
because
those
employees
who
have
been
good,
well-paid
employees,
won't
contribute
to
the
evanston
economy
and
I
think
evanston
will
lose
somebody
who's,
helped
as
they
said
over
1700
homeowners.
Thank.
H
I
was
just
going
to
ask
if
we
could
either
call
the
question,
or
I
mean
I
appreciate
the
information
he's
bringing
forward,
but
it
does
not
get
to
the
heart
of
the
matter,
which
is
a
business,
has
been
run
in
a
residential
space
without
the
correct
zoning
and
and
also
classification
with
the
county,
impacting
all
of
the
taxing
bodies
here
in
evanston
for
20
years-
and
I
mean
we
sit
here
and
we
have
lots
of
you-
know,
ordinances
and
rules
and
fees
and
fines
of
which
we
ask
people
who
just
park
in
a
parking
space
and
stay
there.
H
H
When
you
know
I
have
residents
who
call
me
every
day
about
a
late
whatever
that
we're
not
able
to
waive
their
fees
for
so
I
am
uncomfortable
moving
forward
with
this.
I
will
be
a
no
for
a
variety
of
reasons
that
I
don't
need
to
initially
get
into
the
biggest.
One,
though,
is
the
ada
compliance
and
the
idea
that,
because
the
building
has
been
run
as
residential,
whether
people
know
I
mean
as
commercial,
whether
people
know
it's
commercial
or
not
means
that
I
should
negate.
A
All
right,
councilmember,
reid,
okay,
all
right!
Thank
you
all!
I.
I
also
think
that
I
think
it's,
I
wonder
how
all
of
mr
shapiro's
six
seventeen
hundred
clients
here
in
evanston
would
feel
about
the
fact
that
their
tax
appeal
lawyer
had
been
essentially
avoiding
his
his
proper
responsibilities
to
to
us
as
a
city
to
all
of
our
other
tax
us
as
taxpayers.
A
So
with
that
this
is
for
introduction,
so
I
would
urge
you
all
to
vote
no
on
introduction
as
the
alderman
of
the
award.
Ms
niden,
would
you
call
the
role
council.
J
E
H
H
A
C
Sure
so
one
of
the
items
that
often
comes
up
during
a
plan
development
review
is
the
impact
on
the
traffic
system
when
bigger
developments
are
built,
and
it's
not
just
car
traffic.
But
one
thing
that
we
often
particularly
staff
ask
is
whether
or
not
there's
an
impact
from
delivery
vehicles.
Uber
food
delivery
package
delivery.
C
We
see
in
newer
developments,
larger
mail
rooms
being
built
to
accommodate
those
things
and
but
often
when
we
push
back
and
ask
for
the
traffic
consultant's
feedback,
we
don't
get
anything
additional
from
the
traffic
consultant
and
often,
I
would
say
I've
I've
been
with
the
city
for
over
10
years.
I
was
on
the
plan
commission
before
that.
I
don't
think
I
ever
saw
a
traffic
study
that
said
that
there
would
be
additional
traffic
created
by
a
new
development.
So
that's
a
pretty
impressive
projection
when
we
know
new
developments
produce
new
traffic.
C
C
C
Traffic
studies
could
contemplate
multiple
developments
at
the
same
time,
same
thing
for
for
the
avador
and
the
ridge,
1815
ridge,
same
thing,
you
have
multiple
projects
happening.
At
the
same
time,
the
impact
could
be
reviewed
together,
so
this
would
be
absolutely
passed
on
to
the
developer.
This
is
not
a
cost
being
proposed
to
be
borne
by
the
city.
C
This
would
be
a
fee
that
we
could,
if
we,
if
we
were
given
direction
to
move
ahead
with
this,
we
would
essentially
qualify
consultants
and
then
charge
the
feedback
to
the
developers
to
to
do
the
work,
and
then
I
think
that
the
results
could
be
better
reviewed,
better
scoped,
and
we
get
a
little
bit
more
of
an
apples
to
apples
when
we're
comparing
traffic
studies.
M
Well,
I
think
it
sounds
like
a
good
idea,
but
I
did
have
a
question.
This
consultant
is
described
as
a
multi-modal
traffic
consultant.
So
is
that
a
a
different
kind
of
a
consultant
than
the
traffic
analysis
that
the
developers
usually
get.
C
What
we
normally
get
is
a
proposal
for
vehicle
transportation,
and
we
always
what
we
always
hear
is.
Oh,
this
won't
create
more
traffic
because
it's
near
a
train
station
and
what
we,
but
we
often
get
public
comment
about
the
new
bike
traffic.
Are
there
appropriate
bike
lanes,
bike
racks
and
multimodal
in
terms
of
the
ride?
Should
we
have
via
lyft
and
divi
bike?
C
All
those
things
are
part
of
our
transportation
system
and
making
sure
that
we're
producing
information
about
the
trip
generation
for
all
those
different
uses
is
really
important
to
be
able
to
understand,
because
the
traffic
studies
are
not
generating
how
many
uber
or
lyft
or
amazon
deliveries
might
occur
in
a
from
a
unit
or
from
any
any
new
traffic.
We
just
don't
get
that
information
and
we're
left
to
sort
of
make
it
up
and
fill
in
the
blanks
as
it
as
it
comes
council.
J
C
I
can
get
that
information.
I
don't
know
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
don't
know
if
they
have
the
volume
that
we
would
have
in
the
with
the
close
proximity
of
developments
that
I
think
we're
trying
to
and-
and
I
mean
skokie
certainly
doesn't
have
divi
bike.
I
mean
they
don't
have
some
of
the
things
that
in
in
the
system
that
we
do,
they
don't
have
a
metro
station.
C
So
some
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
to
try
to
understand
just
the
the
announcement
that
metra
is
changing
the
service
to
us,
isn't
going
to
be
calculated
into
something
a
traffic
consultant
study
today.
Those
are
the
kinds
of
they're
just
consume
up,
there's
a
station.
They
make
a
certain
assumption,
but
we
know
we
have
a
lot
of
residents
that
travel
north
that
may
live
around
maine
and
central
and
they're
going
to
be
impacted
by
those
changes.
A
Okay,
council
member
fleming.
H
Yeah,
so
I
see
the
need
for
this,
but
my
question
is:
couldn't
we
change
our
request
of
the
developers
so
can't
we
say
to
them
instead
of
a
regular
traffic
consultant?
We
would
you
know,
like
a
multi-modal,
I
don't
know
how
easy
it
is
to
find
and
then
add
these
as
criteria
of
things
that
they
need
to
give
us.
H
I
guess
my
concern
is
with
us
having
you
know.
We
have
a
lot
of
consultants
already
and
having
another
consultant.
If
they're,
you
know
we're
using
them
on
these
things,
I'm
assuming
all
right,
I'm
guessing
we're
going
to
use
them
on
other
projects,
but
it
seems
like,
since
we
already
have
this
built
into
the
plan
development
process.
H
We
could
just
ask
the
developers,
you
know
exactly
what
we
want
them
to
bring
when
they're
studying
and
then
we
would.
You
know,
propose
that
they
use
this
kind
of
consultant
versus
a
regular
traffic
consultant.
So.
C
I
think
laura
biggs
is
on
the
line
and
she
can
answer
this
and
she
did
just
message
me
and
say
that
we'll
met
does
this
exact
activity
of
contracting
the
village
contracts
out,
but
I
think
the
what
often
happens
during
planned
developments
and
what
we're
trying
to
address
is
the
resident
concern
and
the
comments
that
we
get
questioning
the
traffic
studies
that,
when
they're
prepared
by
the
applicant,
it's
in
the
applicant's
incentive
to
say
they
won't
be
traffic
generated
and
and
we
when
we
know
that's,
not
the
case,
so
I
think
we're
trying
to
to
be
as
the
body
reviewing
this
getting
the
best
information.
P
Hello,
my
name
is
laura
biggs,
I'm
the
city
engineer,
so
I
just
want
to
reinforce
what
johanna
knight
is
saying
that,
first
of
all,
it's
not
necessarily
a
different
type
of
company
traffic
consultants
could
provide
this
information
and
we
do
push
back
and
ask
for
it,
but
we
seldom
really
get
a
real
resolution
on
it.
Traffic
consultants
that
are
hired
by
developers
tend
to
produce
a
very
cookie
cutter
report
that
has
really
specific
information.
P
That
is,
the
lowest
cost
to
the
developer
that
the
developer
can
get
by
with,
and
they
pretty
much
always
say
that
there
isn't
really
a
traffic
impact.
But
more
than
that,
I
think
one
of
our
concerns
is
even
something
like
bike
lanes.
You
know
bike
bike
accommodations
might
be
incorporated
into
the
building,
but
there's
no
consideration
given
to
by
the
developer
to
how
people
are
going
to
get
their
bikes
back
and
forth
to
the
actual
bike
storage.
Are
they
walking
through
the
lobby?
Are
they
going
down
an
alley?
P
Is
it
accessible
from
the
street,
and
so
the
developers
themselves
are
not
always
asking
the
information
they
need
from
the
traffic
consultants,
because
they
do
business
in
other
communities
than
evanston
and
in
other
communities
in
evanston.
They
have
different
issues.
So
they
are.
We
are
a
unique
community
and
we
have
found
repeatedly
we're
having
the
same
conversations
with
the
traffic
consultants
from
developers
which,
as
johanna
has
stated,
are
simply
that
there
really
aren't
any
impacts
and
that
everything
that
is
raised
as
a
concern
will
probably
be
fine.
A
I
I
would
echo
that,
having
sat
through
many
planned
unit
developments
and
read
many
many
traffic
studies
that
are
presented
by
the
applicant,
I
have
never
read
one
that
says
there
will
be
a
negative
impact
and-
and
rightly
so-
and
I
will
say
when
I
was
still
a
private
citizen.
A
I
was
one
of
the
private
citizens
who
was
challenging
the
validity
of
a
traffic
study
because
it
was
paid
for
by
the
applicant,
and
so
I
I
think
this
is
a
good
way
for
the
city
to
be
able
to
say
to
people
we
are
getting
since
we
are
paying
for
this.
You
know
we'll
charge
appropriately
to
the
developer,
but
since
we're
paying
for
this,
there
isn't
an
inherent
bias
towards
the
applicant
and
also
to
me.
A
This
also
would
be
able
to
we'd
be
able
to
retain
these
traffic
studies
and
then,
to
my
mind
and
ms
biggs
and
mrs
knighton,
you
fill
me
in,
we
would
be
able
to
fit
these
together.
You
know
I
I
look
back
on
a
time
when
we
were
asking
developers
to
produce
a
scale
model
and
the
city
was
thinking
that
we
would
assemble
all
of
these.
E
I
I
appreciate
this
approach.
I
really
like
the
the
concept
of
having
a
traffic
study
that
represents
the
needs
of
of
the
city
of
evanston
and
the
people
of
evanston,
not
the
developer,
who
obviously
has
a
vested
interest
in
an
outcome.
E
I
like
the
fact
that
this
supports
a
complete
streets.
You
know
multimodal
approach
with
with
bicycle
friendly
infrastructure,
public
transportation
walking.
So
I
think
this
is
in
very
close
alignment
with
our
carp
goals.
I
just
want
to
clarify
on
the
cost
side,
how
would
that
cost
be
passed
along
to
the
developer.
E
P
P
A
traffic
study
is
typically
like
a
50
to
150
page
document,
and
we
have
staff
that
are
qualified
to
do
it,
but
we
do
not
have
staff
that
have
anywhere
near
the
time
to
actually
complete
a
traffic
study.
In
addition,
one
of
the
key
components
of
a
traffic
study
is
the
use
of
video
cameras
to
take
traffic
counts.
There's
specific
software
that
then
analyzes
the
video
over
a
time
period
to
tell
how
many
pedestrians
vehicles
bicycles
are
going
in
which
direction?
How
of
the
way
the
city
takes?
P
Traffic
counts
because
of
the
expense
that
that
would
require,
because
we
sent
somebody
out
there
with
a
counter
who
like
a
little
clicker
and
who
makes
tally,
marks
or
little
clicks
and
figures
out
which
cars
are
going,
which
direction?
That's
not
really
practical
in
today's
world.
You
typically
want
the
cameras
to
be
up
for
several
days
and
from
there
the
software
selects
the
peak
hours.
P
J
Thank
you
yeah
just
to
understand
the
need,
because
I
know,
we've
sometimes
put
strips
down
on
streets
to
measure
to
to
and
analyze
the
flow
of
traffic.
So
I
just
wanted
to
understand
that,
so
we
have
two
right
currently.
What
do
we
have,
and
I'm
not
opposed
to
this?
I
think
it
sounds.
You
know
as
long
as
we
have
a
good
fee
structure
in
place
for
charging
the
developers
but
just
understand
currently
who
do
we
have?
What
do
we
have
on
staff
right
now?
Then
two
people
who
can
do
traffic
studies.
P
We
have
one
traffic
engineer,
who's,
a
civil
engineer,
who's
able
to
oversee
and
analyze
traffic
studies,
and
many
of
the
council
members
are
familiar
with
rajiv
de
hall.
He
is
a
key
person
in
determining
if
we're
able
to
install
speed,
hums,
stop
signs
traffic
signals.
He
also
does
project
management
of
various
traffic
signal
and
intersection
projects,
and
then
we
also
have
a
traffic
technician.
P
Who
is
the
person
who
will
go
out
and
put
the
counting
tubes
down?
Who
will
do
the
the
counters
when
we
need
to
and
does
a
variety
of
other
tasks
as
well?
We
do
our
own
traffic
counts
when
it
is
a
speed,
hump
question
because
we
put
the
tube
down
it's
counting
traffic.
It's
a
a
quick
summary:
it's
not
a
complex
situation,
but
a
development
going
in
in
the
downtown
area
is
a
totally
different
animal.
A
D
A
A
C
Jessica
hung
is
actually
in
the
building,
but
is
going
to
be
giving
the
presentation
from
her
office.
So
I
think
she
should
be
on
as
well.
K
K
And
while
we
are
waiting
for
it
to
load,
I
will
just
briefly
explain
that
a
shared
street
is
a
street
that
allows
all
users
to
use
it
safely,
and
so
it
still
allows
vehicles
to
go
down
the
street.
It
allows
cars
to
go
down
the
street
and
it
allows
pedestrians
to
go
down
the
street,
and
I
am
not
able
to
share
my
screen.
A
K
K
We
already
have
precedent
for
this
in
the
city
of
evanston,
at
custer
avenue,
where
you
can
see
that
there's
clearly
enough
space
for
emergency
vehicles
to
get
through.
It
encourages
green
transportation
because
you
do
have
to
walk
or
bike
or
take
public
transit
to
the
location
and
it
creates
space
as
active
places.
K
So
then,
looking
at
a
shared
street
pilot
on
greenleaf,
we
are
looking
at
having
from
end
to
end
having
intersection
improvements
that
indicate
that
the
road
cloak
is
closed
and
is
only
open
to
local
traffic
and
having
signs
that
also
show
cars
to
slow
down
and
to
share
the
street
prioritizing
pedestrians
and
bicyclists,
usually
with
a
shared
street.
This
means
that
people
will
drive
more
slowly
and
it
becomes
more
of
an
active
space
for
everyone
to
comfortably
move
through
it.
K
So
then,
the
an
improved
street
on
greenleaf
would
improve
east
to
west
connections.
Right
now,
in
evanston
we
have
limited
east
to
west
connections
for
people
who
commute
or
recreate
by
biking,
so
it
would
connect
from
the
channel
trail
all
the
way
to
the
lakefront.
K
K
And
again
I
want
to
emphasize
that
emergency
vehicles,
delivery
and
local
traffic
needs
will
still
be
met.
It
will
just
slow
down
traffic
so
that
people
are
not
speeding
going
too
fast
and
allowing
families,
older
adults
and
everyone
who
uses
the
street
to
feel
comfortable
biking
and
walking.
Thank
you.
A
So
this
hike,
while
other
people
are
turning
on
their
lights.
Can
I
ask
a
few
questions?
I
have
one
we'll
have
a
lot
of
lights
here,
so
when
this
is
a
shared
street,
does
that
mean
in
your
first
illustration?
A
K
Yes,
that's
correct
and
there
were
many
examples
of
shared
streets
throughout
the
pandemic
and
they
were
successfully
completed
throughout
the
country.
However,
this
is
beyond
just
covert
related,
shared
streets
or
something
that
has
been
around
for
quite
some
time
to
use
as
infrastructure
and
warmer
months
to
allow
more
people
to
get
around
safely.
B
Thank
you
miss
hank,
for
for
this
presentation.
I
am
really
supportive
of
shared
streets
and
I
hope
we
can
expand
this.
So
this
is
a
great
pilot,
one
of
the
things
that
I
am
curious
about.
B
Well,
one
of
one
things
why
I'm
so
supportive
of
this
is,
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
you
know
if
you're
walking
down
a
sidewalk
in
evanston
if
it's
empty,
take
a
step
in
the
middle
of
the
street
and
you'll
notice,
how
beautiful
the
pathway
is
in
the
middle
of
the
street,
and
so
we've
built
our
city
to
be
really
beautiful
if
you're
driving,
because
the
canopy
cover
over
the
streets,
but
you
don't
have
that
same
canopy
cover
on
the
sidewalk.
B
So
with
that
you
know
on
both
sides,
so
I
I
am
extremely
supportive
of
this.
One
thing,
I
wonder,
is:
is
it
possible
that
we
can
in
one
of
your
pictures,
you
showed
the
orange
kind
of
standard
blockade,
blockades
that
you
know
say:
hey
slow
down,
you
know
this.
Is
you.
D
B
A
restricted
area-
or
you
know,
an
area
where
you
have
to
slow
down
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
maybe
make
those
more
appealing
or
find
signs
that
are
a
bit
more
appealing.
You
know,
I
think,
having
something
that's
orange
and
people
are
used
to
that
color
as
a
hey.
You
know
watch
out
when
you're
coming
in
here,
but
are
there
examples
of
more
appealing
blockades
to
use.
K
There
are
examples
of
more
appealing
blockades.
I
have
seen
many
communities
use
planters
with
vegetation
at
the
blockades
to
make
it
look
more
appealing,
of
course,
at
major
intersections,
it's
very
important
to
have
the
larger
black
kids
that
indicate
that
the
traffic
is
for
local
traffic.
Only,
however,
most
of
the
intersections
are
small
residential
intersections.
They
will
not
have
the
large
barricades
they'll
have
a
smaller
barricade
with
a
pedestrian
friendly
signage
on
the
barricade.
K
K
A
B
C
Has
certain,
I
think,
there's
they
determine
that
certain
size.
Letters
are
what
are
visible
to
drivers
at
certain
distances
and
then
maybe,
as
you
build
we
built.
If
we
make
this
permanent,
we
can
think
about
other
things,
but
definitely
lara
can
spin
pub
or
or
dave.
If
he's
on
can
speak
to
some
of
the
safety
aspects
of
keeping.
B
What
we
have
yeah-
I
I
I
totally
with
you,
I
I
get
it
the
my.
I
agree
that
the
you
know
the
orange
or
something
should
be
a
and
barricade.
Thank
you
not
blocking
things
like
war
blockade,
barricade
yeah,
just
thinking
of
something
that's
a
bit
more
aesthetically
pleasing
and
again
this
is
a
pilot.
So
again,
I'm
not
looking
for
it
here,
but
certainly
I'm
hoping
that
this
pilot
allows
us
to
continue
this
in
the
future
and
so
and.
A
I
I
also
think,
certainly
indicating
that
this
is
a
shared
street.
You
know
that
people
understand
bikes,
pedestrians
and
and
vehicles
are
commonly
using
it,
so
some
kind
of
signage,
so
people
understand
that
it
may
be
limited
to
local
traffic,
but
we
know
how
people
really
adhere
to
that.
So
we
really
need
to
warn
them
that
there's
going
to
be
a
bicycle
in
the
middle
of
the
street
or
a
pedestrian
in
the
middle
of
the
street.
So
that's
what
shared
street
means
yeah
share
the
street.
Yes,.
H
Sure
a
couple,
quick
questions,
so
when
the
parking
and
transportation
committee
dissolved,
we
talked
about
starting
a
bike,
pedestrian
committee.
So
did
they
weigh
in
and
help
with
this
plan.
K
H
Okay,
so
I
know
we've
had
covert,
but
hopefully
that
committee
can
get
going,
because
that
was
a
big
commitment
we
made
to
the
public
when
we
got
rid
of
parking
and
transportation
that
we'd
have
this
other
committee
and
as
much
as
I
you
know
like
the
idea
of
shared
streets.
I
think
my
concern
with
this
right
is
what
I
mean
partly
is
the
traffic,
because
drivers
are
just
not
very
good,
and
so,
even
with
all
the
barricades
I
am.
H
I
am
just
concerned
that
people
aren't
paying
attention
the
other
part
of
it
is
you
know
we
still
have,
and
and
this
doesn't
you
know
this
is
21
000.
I
think
we
still
have
so
many
streets
that
don't
have
sidewalks
and
we
still
have
right.
We
still
have
this
complete
streets
policy
that
we
don't
follow.
I
know
that
we
had
talked
earlier
about
kind
of
reconfiguring
how
we
do
the
50
50
shared
sidewalk
replacement
program,
but
I
don't
we
haven't
finished
that
yet
we
still
have.
H
H
But
as
you
mentioned,
we
don't
have
good,
east-west
bike
lane.
You
know
we
just
have
so
many
hindrance
to
people
really
using
their
bike
around
town
and
really
even
walking
a
lot
around
town.
I
know
we're
talking
about
making
the
bus
stops,
ada
compliant,
which
is
great
so
jessica.
All
these
things.
You
know,
we've
talked
about
a
lot
and
I
know
you're.
You
know
you
want
to
tackle
them,
but
I
think
as
a
council.
H
While
this
is
a
neat
idea,
I
would
really
like
us
to
put
kind
of
long-term
thought
to
some
other
ways
that
we
can
just
make
the
city
more
walkable
and
more
bike
friendly
and
then
my
last
comment
is
just
about
the
cluster,
because
I
live
right
over
there.
I
would
challenge
that.
That's
really
a
shared
space
right.
I
think
it's
very
much
an
eating
space
in
the
evening
and
they
have
they
have
signs
up.
That
says
road
clothes,
and
so
it's
not
like
a
car
is
going
through
there.
H
H
I
don't
know
if
the
business
owners
really
think
that
people
should
be
biking
or
walking
through
there
if
they're
not
eating,
and
I
definitely
think
that
the
customers
don't
think
that
you
should
be
doing
that
and
again
I
mean
it.
It
says
you
cannot
drive
a
car
down
there
because
we
have
you
know
we
have.
H
We
have
tables
in
the
middle
of
the
road,
so
I
don't
know
that
I
would
necessarily
consider
that
a
shared
street
I
just
would
sit
or
that
consider
that
outdoor
dining,
which
is
great
but
not
a
shared
street,
as
we
speak
of
it
here.
So
you
know.
While
I
want
to
support
this,
I
would
rather
do
it.
H
P
Yes,
council,
member
fleming
again,
my
name
is
laura
biggs,
I'm
the
city
engineer
I
didn't
want
to
let
you
know
that
staff
has
been
working
on
discussions
about
equity
problems
that
we
do
have
with
the
way
that
sidewalks
are
funded
and
constructed
currently,
and
so
we
are
planning
to
bring
the
discussion
back
to
city
council
and
the
next
meeting
in
order
to
have
that
discussion
with
council
members.
In
terms
of
why
do
this
pilot?
I
think
it
is
something
that
we
do
really
want
to
try
to
expand.
P
Lane
improvements
tend
to
be
very
expensive
by
their
nature,
they
tend
to
be
multimodal
streetscape
projects,
and
for
that
reason
we
seek
federal
funding
and
federal
funding.
Just
comes
at
specific
cycles,
so
we
actually
have
two
projects:
one
on
church
street
west
of
dodge
one
on
chicago
avenue,
south
of
davis.
Right
now
that
are
in
the
planning
phase,
and
we
also
have
the
oakton
corridor
where
we're
looking
at
those
it's
in
the
planning
phase,
as
well
with
the
goal
that
these
would
ultimately
be
funded.
E
Thank
you,
council,
member,
when
I
am
supportive
of
this
concept
very
excited
about
the
concept
and
and
looking
forward
to
welcoming
that
in
that
portion
of
greenleaf,
which
is
in
the
fourth
ward,
which
is
probably
more
than
half,
and
I
know
that
we
have
strong
advocates
in
in
the
sustainable
transportation
community,
including
go
evanston
and
the
the
citizens
greener,
evanston
folks,
I
am
a
little
having
said
that,
and
although
I'm
fully
supportive,
I'm
a
little
bit
disappointed
that
I'm
only
hearing
about
it.
E
Now
you
know
a
month
or
so
away
from
this
being
implemented,
and
you
know
as
we
move
forward
and
do
these
in
other
locations
around
town,
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
go
to
the
residence
and
let
them
know
what's
going
on
so
that
folks
are
not
taken
off
guard
and
surprised
when
there's
a
barricade
in
front
of
their
house
or
down
the
street
all
of
a
sudden
for
no
apparent
reason.
E
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
ample
opportunity
to
engage
with
the
public
for
this
and
for
so
many
other
things
we
do
so
we
can.
Let
folks
know
what's
going
on.
Let
them
know
why
it's
happening,
and
you
know
just
make
sure
that
the
we
can
bring
the
community
along
and
encourage
them
to
accept
and
yeah
and
promote
more
good
ideas
like
this.
A
A
So
I
I
do
think
that
this
is
a
good
pilot,
I'm
in
support
of
it,
because
we
do
need
some
kind
of
east-west
a
safe
biking
route,
because
right
now
people
are
using
lake,
which
I
don't
think
is
safe
at
all,
and
lake
would
be
very
difficult
to
use.
So
this
I
agree
with
you,
council,
member
newsman.
We
have
to
make
sure
the
community
everyone
who
lives
along
greenleaf
understands
what's
happening,
and
I
do
think
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
what
happens
with
the
pilot.
A
But
I
am
I
am
in
support
of
this,
because
this
is
a
way
in
which
we
can
achieve
some
kind
of
bike
lane
without
having
to
build
the
infrastructure,
and
it
moves
us
all
towards
that
goal
of
being
aware
of
all
of
the
different
types
of
transportation
that
are
on
our
streets,
not
just
cars
and
trucks.
K
Yes,
we
are
planning
to
notify
the
residents
on
green
leaf.
Every
resident
on
greenleaf
will
receive
a
notification
via
a
postcard,
okay.
A
C
A
J
K
Right,
those
are
all
of
the
barricades
that
would
need
to
complete
the
entire
street,
and
so
we
will
not
be
using
any
existing
barricades
that
the
city
has.
Those
barricades
will
still
be
available
for
other
special
events
and
other
uses
through
the
city,
and
the
reason
why
the
city
city
staff
are
recommending
we
purchase
barricades
for
every
single
intersection
is
because
the
hope
is
that
this
could
continue
on
in
the
future,
for
pilots
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
hopefully
for
longer
durations
then
also
could
be
used
for
other
special
events.
J
Right
so
I
concur
with
alderman
reed
in
you
know,
wanting
this
to
be
as
aesthetic
as
possible,
especially
you
know
when
I
look
at
the
what
was
needed,
the
big
sandbags
down
by
the
lakefront
I
feel
like
you
know,
we've
had
to
look
at
those
for
a
long
time
and
those
with
you
know
the
the
name
blazed
the
name
of
the
company
blazed
across
those.
C
Q
Good
evening
dave
stomach
public
works
director,
we
have
barricades,
but
we
are
almost
lending
them
all
out.
When
we
have
the
block
parties
I
mean,
and
when
you
have
a
holiday
weekend
with
block
parties,
our
whole
inventory
is
out
setting
up
for
the
block
parties.
No,
we
would
not
have
enough
barricades
to
do
the
block
parties
in
this
shared
stream.
J
B
Just
very
quickly,
I
I
didn't
didn't
get
to
the
whole
number.
K
The
speed
will
not
the
posted
speed
will
not
change.
However,
as.
K
K
However,
what
has
been
found
with
these
types
of
barricades
and
in
other
locations
and
with
the
the
increased
activity
on
the
street
is
that
cars
naturally
drive
much
slower
because
of
the
barricades
and
because
of
the
people,
biking
and
walking.
B
Yeah
traffic
calming
and
then
is
there
a
possibility
to
council
member
fleming's
point
earlier
that
this
could
last
longer
than
one
month.
Is
there
a
particular
I
mean?
Are
we
just
running
out
of
summer
or
is
there
a
particular
reason
that
would
the
program
only
last
a
month
six
weeks.
K
The
intent
is
to
have
it
open
long
enough
to
get
feedback
from
the
community
on
on
their
response
to
it,
but
not
have
it
open
so
long
that
we
begin
to
interfere
with
increasing
traffic
when
school
begins
again.
B
Okay,
I
think
thank
you
for
that.
I,
my
just
last
thought
on
that
is.
I
think
it
should
be
long
enough
for
people
to
not
only
get
first,
not
only
good
feedback
for,
but
for
folks
to
kind
of
get
used
to
it,
because
you
do
something
for
a
couple
of
weeks,
and
you
know
you
can
be
raven
mad
for
a
couple
of
weeks
and
really
not
have
an
issue,
but
if
we
do
it
for
a
longer
period
of
time
you
can
kind
of
settle
in
and
realize.
Oh,
it's
not
so
bad.
A
Thank
you
all
right,
I
think.
Does
staff
have
enough
direction
from
us?
Yes,
yes,
yes,
I've
been
told
by
staff
that
is
it
christina.
Martin
is
available
online.
Miss
martin
was
we
couldn't
reach
her
for
public
comment
earlier.
Miss
martin.
Are
you
on
the
line.
K
O
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
letting
me
speak
at
this
time.
It's
just
a
general
comment.
It
has
it's
not
on
tonight's
agenda,
but
concerning
the
building.
That's
going
up
above
the
building
that
was
vogue
fabrics,
but
will
no
longer
glow
the
fabrics.
O
We
have
quite
a
few
rental
buildings
with
very
small
units,
and
not
many
of
them
are
at
full
occupancy.
I
don't
know
if
actually
any
of
them
are
at
full
occupancy.
O
You
know
the
issue
g1
tonight
talking
about
the
traffic
at
that
corner.
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
drive
down
that
corner
all
that
often,
but
it
is
dicey
to
say
the
least
and
just
for
the
council's
consideration
if
we
could
think
about
still
doing
the
building,
because
vogue
does
need
an
update,
but
perhaps
making
them
condos
for
sale
instead
of
micro
units.
O
A
Thank
you
miss
martin.
I
I
did
want
to
let
you
know
that
the
development
at
the
vo
former
vogue
site
is
not
going
to
be
micro
units
and
the
developers
testified
to
the
the
council
that
they
are
pricing
them,
not
as
luxury
units,
but
they
will
be
very
nice
units,
but
they're,
not
pricing
them
at
the
top
of
the
market.
O
For
my
own
knowledge,
what
is
the
average
square
foot
going
to
be
for
the
unit.
A
O
Okay,
I
apologize
for
my
statement
that
was
based
on
some
of
the
articles
that
I
had
read.
Thank
you
for
that.
A
Thank
you
all
right
all
right.
That
concludes
our
public
comment.
That
concludes
our
agenda
and
seeing
no
more
items.
We
are
adjourned
all
right
and
the
council
will
start
in
7
10..
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank.