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A
B
60
seconds
I
was
here
two
weeks
ago
on
October
9th
for
the
approval
of
my
home
at
2120
Madison
place
as
in
the
air
B&B.
At
that
time,
alderman
Winn
asked
me
if
I
would
speak
directly
to
my
neighbors
in
attendance
and
moved
the
agenda
item
to
October
23rd
tonight,
I
explained
to
my
neighbors
that
my
address
is
not
published
publicly
on
the
Airbnb
site.
My
address
has
given
out
only
to
those
who
have
booked
a
stay
with
their
credit
card.
I
will
only
accept
verified,
Airbnb
guests.
B
B
They
must
have
a
working
email
address
and
a
working
telephone
number
additionally
I
require
my
guests
to
have
at
least
one
positive
endorsement
from
a
host
on
Airbnb
I
hosted
an
expanded
group
of
neighbors
for
a
happy
hour
last
night
to
give
them
a
tour
of
my
home.
So
they
could
see
the
specific
ways.
I
have
arranged
my
home
to
ensure
security.
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F
A
All
right,
it's
been
moved
in.
Second,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye.
Can
you
opposed
the
item
passes
so
it
will
move
on
to
the
City
Council
item.
P2
is
granting
vacation
rental
license
for
1612
Main
Street,
and
do
we
have
any
public
speakers
on
this
I?
Don't
believe
we
do
move
approval?
Second,
all
those
in
favor
any
discussion
all
right,
all
those
in
favor
aye
any
opposed
the
item
passes,
would
some
would
mind
closing
the
door
in
the
back
just
so
that
we
we
have
a
little
bit
more
quiet.
Thank
you.
A
A
Any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
aye
can
you
pose.
The
motion
carries
all
right
now:
items
P,
4,
ordinance,
115,
oh
17,
granting
a
special
use
for
commercial
indoor
recreation
facility
spanger
at
10:26,
Davis
Street.
This
is
for
we
have
been
asked
by
alderman
Wilson,
whose
Ward
this
is
in
both
in
suspend
the
rules
introduced
to
spend
the
rules
and
then
move
for
action
go
approval.
Second,
any
discussion.
G
A
H
A
Any
opposed
all
right,
so
p4
carries
p5
ordinance,
8800
17,
granting
a
special
use
for
a
type
2
restaurant
Nix
organic.
My
understanding
is
this
has
been.
There
is
a
request
for
a
continuation
on
the
part
of
the
applicant,
so
we
will
hold
this
in
committee
item
p5
until
our
next
meeting
date-
number
13th,
okay,
so
so.
A
A
Please
remember
that
if
someone
else
says
what
you,
what
you
were
about
to
say
or
pretty
much
the
gist
of
what
you
were
going
to
say,
you
don't
have
to
repeat
it.
For
us.
We
have
all
read
all
the
materials
we've
read.
We
watch
the
videos
or
attend
to
the
Planning
Commission,
and
we
have
been
here
present
to
hear
everyone's
comment.
So
we
appreciate
citizen
comment,
but
we
do
want
to
have
an
opportunity
to
discuss
this
as
well.
So
I
will
start
with
that.
A
We'll
have
citizen
comment
and
then
I
believe
the
developer
has
a
presentation,
and
then
we
have
a
citizens
group
that
has
a
short
presentation
as
well,
so
the
first
first
name
I
have
is
Tracy
McKeithen
and
then
Andrew
Fisher
Peter,
Gann
Eric.
Is
it
pass
it
okay
and
then
Aaron
Rosen?
If
you
all
could
prepare
yourselves
all
right,
miss
McKeithen,
good.
I
Evening,
I'm
Tracy
McKeithen
I
am
in
eighth
ward
resident
I'm
the
executive
director
of
Family
Promise
Chicago,
North
Shore.
It's
a
local
homeless
agency
nonprofit
that
serves
families
in
Evanston
on
the
North
Shore
I'm.
Also
a
member
of
joining
forces
and
part
which
partners
with
42
members
of
interfaith
action
of
Evanston
coalition
interfaith
action
of
Evanston
is
neither
in
support
or
against
the
proposed
Albion
developments.
If
the
development
is
approved,
interfaith
action
of
Evanston
wants
to
see
the
evidence.
Inclusionary
housing
ordinance
used
to
develop
as
many
units
of
affordable
housing
as
possible.
I
Last
week,
one
of
the
interfaith
action
of
Evanston
board
members
issued
a
statement
supporting
a
joint
proposal
from
city
staff
and
the
Albion
developer
to
use
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
to
develop
15
new,
affordable
housing
units.
If
the
development
is
approved,
a
lot
of
the
comments
from
some
of
the
City
Council
members
on
October
9th,
we
would
like
to
urge
this
city
council
to
update
the
ami
rates
of
the
proposed
units
from
sixty
to
eighty
percent
to
fifty
to
sixty
percent
of
the
ami
respectively.
I
The
requested
change
is
to
address
the
concerns
from
council
members
to
make
sure
that
the
15
units
are
made
available
to
low-income
and
struggling
Evanston
residents.
Interfaith
action
of
Evanston
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
the
City
Council
to
create
a
city
that
is
inclusive
of
residents
and
native
of
estonians,
regardless
of
their
income
level.
Thank
you.
J
Hi
I'm
Andrew
Fisher
I've,
been
a
native
of
Evanston
for
the
last
50
years
from
the
rotary
building
was
just
the
Valencia
theater
I
had
been
a
resident
of
was
help
Optima
towers
ever
since
it
was
built
twelve
years
ago.
One
of
the
main
reasons
I
moved
into
that
building.
On
the
11th
floor
on
the
southwest
corner,
it
was
so
I
could
see
downtown
Chicago
with
it
was
in
a
Sears
Tower,
just
beyond
the
corner
of
the
rule,
rebuilding.
J
If
this
current
album
out
being
the
development
is
built,
it
will
totally
block
that
view
also
I
believe
the
gist
of
this
you've
been
told
before,
but
this
building
would
obviously
increase
the
traffic
and
potential
of
accidents
and
accident
deaths
and
the
wind
tunnel
problem,
as
well
as
shadowing
the
swimming
pool
on
top
of
a
Holiday
Inn
during
the
afternoon
hours.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
K
Try
to
be
brief,
you
all
have
heard
a
lot
about
this
already.
I
just
want
to
say
that
this
developer
does
not
seem
like
a
good
fit
for
this
particular
site,
and
that
I
would
personally
like
to
see
and
would
love
to
be
able
to
propose
that
we
reinvigorate
the
downtown
planning
process,
which
many
people
participated
in
several
years
ago,
and
that
I
believe
that
Evanston
is
desirable
enough.
K
L
Name
is
Eric
Passons,
most
people
I'm
the
owner
of
North
Shore
apartments
and
condos.
So
it's
all
during
rainy
ass
before
the
meeting.
Why
I
would
be
against
this
and
I'm
not
so
much
against
this
project?
I'm
against,
as
you
probably
know,
there's
at
least
six
or
seven
other
rental
buildings
that
are
being
considered
by
the
council
one
tomorrow
night,
that's
going
to
be
on
Chicago
Avenue
and
there's
a
couple
other
a
I,
don't
beam
in
the
business.
Eat,
live
and
breathe
real
estate
for
last
twenty
five
years.
L
I
don't
see
the
demand
not
for
fifteen
hundred
units
that
are
going
to
go
up
to
the
people
who
live
in
the
building
directly
north
of
the
building
that
you're
proposing
building.
We
live
through
the
development
of
17:17
ridge
being
the
building
just
south
of
there.
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
of
our
tenants
complained
about
the
noise
it's
seven
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
and
because,
if
driving
girders
down
into
it,
you
know
the
pylons.
I
can't
tell
you
what
people
wanted
to
move
out,
because
of
that,
this
is
even
be
closer
than
that.
L
So
the
people
live
right
above
Canseco
and
bar
Louie's,
not
my
building
but
I'm.
Just
making
a
point.
I
think
we're
gonna
overheat,
the
whole
downtown
area
by
biet
building
too
many
buildings.
Maybe
this
one
should
go,
but
what
about
the
next
one
there's
always
a
good
reason
for
a
developer.
A
lot
of
money
involved,
a
lot
of
profit
to
be
made.
I
know
all
about
that.
But
what
about
the
other
side
of
it?
You
know
that's
saying.
A
A
M
Ahead
good
evening,
my
name
is
Erin
rose
and
I
live
about
a
thousand
feet
west
of
the
prosed
Albion
project.
I,
see
that
the
developers
of
the
album
have
chosen
to
a
lot,
not
let
the
perfect
be
the
enemy
of
the
good
and
a
compromise.
The
size
of
the
project
I
hope
they
will
secure
the
simple
majority
they
need
to
proceed
and
I
am
pleased
by
this
prospect
because,
as
community,
we
cannot
sit
in
stasis,
remove
the
clock
backwards
in
time.
M
The
Albion
project
is
an
attractive
humans,
attractive
building
with
a
human
scale,
podium
a
well
articulated
residential
tower
with
green
space,
and
it
adds
residents
to
the
area.
The
business
is
nearby
nee
these
new
neighbors
to
survive
and
thrive
in
the
new
retail
landscape
of
America.
So
let
me
be
clear
how
I
think
the
lines
are
drawn
on
your
vote
tonight.
A
vote
against
this
project
is
a
vote
against
good,
sustainable
urban
design
and
a
vote
to
increase
regional
sprawl.
M
Given
the
affordable
units
proposed
for
the
inclusion
in
the
project
itself,
a
vote
against
this
project
is
a
vote
against
truly
integrated,
affordable
housing
and
a
vote
to
maintain
the
segregated
status
quo.
A
vote
against
this
project
is
a
vote
against
the
basic
principles
of
transit-oriented
development
and
a
vote
for
the
car
culture,
higher
per
capita
energy
spending
and
climate
change
absenteeism.
M
Lastly,
a
vote
against
this
project
is
a
vote
against
the
economic
interests
of
all
of
the
small
businesses
will
operate
and
the
taxpayers
who
reside
in
this
community
and
a
vote
for
higher
property
taxes
and
more
derelict
storefronts
downtown
I
urge
you
to
consider
a
future
well-being
of
downtown
Evanston
and
vote
to
allow
Albion
to
proceed
with
their
planned
development.
Thank
you.
Thank.
N
My
name
is
sorry:
sausage,
girl,
okay
and
I
live
all
500
feet
from
there
on
the
corner
of
Lake
and
Elmwood.
I.
Think
to
proceed
with
this
without
a
traffic
study
is
insane
since
the
very
narrow
alley
that
Albion
wants
to
use
for
the
entrance
to
their
building
is
too
narrow
for
moving
trucks,
delivery,
trucks,
fire
trucks
and
their
solution
is
to
make
it
one
way.
N
So
if
it's
one
way
all
the
traffic
going
to
that
building,
300
almost
300
apartments
is
going
by
my
house,
and
they
also
are
talking
about
300
more
apartments
in
the
30
store.
Sorry,
what
I
mean
I
think
the
people
who
have
lived
here
for
decades
and
paid
property
taxes
for
decades
didn't
really
sign
on
to
live
in
the
loop
and
it's
getting
to
be
like
just
fill
the
place
with
high-rises.
N
If
the
developers
want
to
do
it
and
I
think
we
have
desirable
land,
we
have
talented
people
who
have
a
feeling
for
oven,
stone
and
I
think
the
lot
is
not
designed
for
that
shape
of
building
its
shoehorned
in
there
I'm
a
designer
I've
been
a
designer
for
40
years.
I've
worked
at
ABC,
it's
it's,
not
a
good-looking
building,
it's
outsized
and
takes
up
almost
an
entire
block.
It's
not
bad
to
have
some
slow,
thoughtful
development
instead
of
just
developer
driven
development
when
they
don't
have
a
feeling
for
evanston.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
O
My
name
is
Paul
Barker
I
live
at
1630,
Main,
Street
and
I
get
angry
every
time,
I
open
the
oven,
stand
round
table
and
I
find
a
glitzy
color
rendering
of
some
proposed
architectural
behemoth
presented
as
a
fait
accompli
and
I
realized
that
this
is
not
a
news
article,
but
an
advertisement
in
disguise.
Yet
again,
a
small
group
of
men
and
expensive
suits
with
capital
smouldering
in
their
pockets
smell
an
opportunity
for
profiting
at
my
town's
expense
and
are
hoping
to
slip
it
past
me.
O
Why
do
I
always
learn
about
these
plots
at
the
eleventh
hour?
Is
the
bulldozer
power
of
wealth
about
to
destroy
more
of
the
humble
human
scale?
Places
familiar
to
my
internal
landscape
of
home
developers
are
organized
patient,
devious,
determined
and
rich
sniffing
out
opportunities
and
finding
ways
around
city
ordinances
designed
to
protect
us
from
their
greed
is
their
full-time
job.
O
O
O
We
need
equitable
education
for
our
children
or
seconds
and
for
the
next
generation
as
long
as
there's
one
homeless,
families
struggling
to
cobble
together
a
decent
life
as
long
as
there's
one
hungry
kid
in
our
schools,
which
shouldn't
we
be
telling
developers
like
Albion
and
Farpoint
thanks,
but
no
thanks,
we
got
more
important
matters
to
address.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
P
Q
Ahead,
hello,
I'm,
Trisha,
Connolly
I
live
at
9:08,
Greenwood
and
I'm
within
a
thousand
feet
of
the
Albion
project.
Tonight,
I'd
like
to
just
remind
everyone
that
this
is
a
multi-billion
dollar
corporation.
They
have
money
and
they're
telling
you
that
they
can
only
afford
to
put
in
15
units
I
hope
you've
done
the
research
they
can
give
us
10%
and
I
think
it
sends
a
really
bad
message
if
we're
willing
to
say
okay,
that's
good,
that's
a
feel
good
for
us.
Q
S
A
S
What
I
don't
like
about
beak
I
feel
like
some
of
you
have
been
it's
our
rules
that
we
have.
My
name
is
Holly
Stratton
and
one
of
you
and
I
don't
think
that
this
should
be
allowed
under
any
circumstances,
no
matter
what
I
don't
think
an
alderman
should
tell
a
constituent
view,
which
is
what
my
alderman
Thomas
suffered
and
said
to
me:
I,
don't
like
the
way
the
people
of
Evanston
have
been
bullied.
S
Berated,
no
I,
don't
like
the
way
we've
been
bullied
and
berated
by
some
of
you
into
accepting
this
project
and
that's
what
it
feels
like
bullying
and
berating.
One
of
you
used
the
term
false
facts
that
sounds
like
Kellyanne
Conway
from
the
Trump
administration.
I
used
it.
It
was
me
that
shouldn't
be
happening.
T
Good
evening
my
name
is
Chris
Pappas
and
I'm.
The
owner
of
aghia
spa
across
the
street,
from
the
proposed
development
I'm
here
to
express
two
concerns.
I
have
with
the
proposed
building
my
concerns.
I
tried
to
keep
these
unique
fall
into
two
major
categories.
First,
are
the
detrimental
impacts
on
parking
for
clients
and
employees?
T
We
have
a
wonderful
business
with
a
reputation.
We've
worked
hard
to
earn,
but
I
expect
that
our
clients,
inability
to
access
our
facility
for
two
years,
due
to
adversely
impacted
parking
availability,
would
be
devastating
for
our
business.
My
second
concern
has
to
do
with
the
noise
impact
from
the
construction
that
will
adversely
impact
the
quiet
and
calm
spa
environment
to
which
our
spa
clients
have
become
accustomed
and
which
they
expect.
Mr.
T
U
Janet
Larson
I've
lived
here
since
1972
and
currently
I'm
at
1501,
Oak
Avenue,
which
is
the
location
of
the
former
City
Hall
I,
have
a
question:
will
the
city
hire
additional
building
inspectors?
The
condo
I
live
in
apparently
didn't
have
a
conscientious
one.
According
to
several
several
plumbers,
who
have
been
called
in
to
address
problems
related
to
installation
and
choices
of
material.
U
The
other
concern
I
have
as
someone
who
has
done
a
lot
of
canvassing
for
elections
with
poll
sheet
in
hand.
I've
noticed
that
as
the
size
of
the
rental
building
increases,
there
are
fewer
registered
voters
and
they
are
more
transient
and
less
likely
to
participate
in
community
affairs
of
importance.
U
H
V
H
E
Name
is,
my
name:
is:
will
white
and
I
live
at
1501
oak
I've
been
in
Evanston
resident
for
the
last
42
years,
six
kids
went
through
e
THS
and
so
I
have
a
lot
of
commitment
to
this
town.
I
live
within
1,000
feet
of
the
proposed
building
and
I
firmly
oppose
its
construction
for
a
number
of
reasons.
You've
been
hearing
from
some
other
very
passionate
people.
You
have
heard
honest
and
passionate
opposition
from
many
of
your
constituents
and
I
hope
that
you
have
been
listening.
E
It's
been
said
that
that
you
know
this
is
a
done
deal.
The
council
and
the
mayor
and
and
the
developer
has
this
all
worked
out
and
so
we'll
just
walk
through
this
and
that
be
it
I
don't
like
to
think
it
could
be
that
way,
but
I
didn't
like
to
think
Donald
Trump
could
be
president
either,
and
he
is
so.
We
appreciate
your
concern
about
the
other
instance
financial
condition,
but
sometimes
visionary
leadership
is
just
needed
to
look
past
easy
bucks.
E
I
am
just
I'm
not
just
against
this
project,
because
it's
it's
progressive,
I
am
against
it
because
I
don't
think.
It's
well
planned
enough.
I,
don't
think
it's
thoroughly
vetted
and
I,
don't
think
it's
code,
illegal
I,
think
it's
your
job,
music
irresponsibility
I
said
Madame
chairman
is
to
serve
the
people
who
elected
you
and
vote
a
firm
flat.
Non-Negotiable!
A
A
W
The
gentleman
also
suggested
that
for
his,
what
another
person
correctly
said
is
a
very
well
endowed
holding
company
behind
it,
but
that,
nonetheless,
his
company
could
only
afford
to
provide
twenty
nine
units
affordable
housing
units
if
the
sale
of
the
price
of
land
was
half.
What
had
reportedly
currently
is
the,
but
even
if
all
twenty-nine,
affordable
housing
units
were
provided
a
structure
as
massive
as
two
hundred
and
eighty
six
units
would
not
only
be
ecologically
and
economically
and
in
terms
of
Illinois
tort
law
having
to
do
with
nuisance,
wrong.
W
W
I'm
most
concerned
that
the
process
that's
brought
this
before
you
has
been
flawed.
The
project
was
not
properly
vetted
in
plan
commission
and
I
have
put
in
the
document.
The
title
of
this
book
called
municipal
building
and
zoning
code
enforcement,
best
practices,
the
distinguished
City
Attorney
of
Glendale
Arizona,
Craig,
Thank,
You,
Mia
Tindall,
is
the
editor.
We
need
to
enforce
our
code
special
Arizona
code
next.
X
Good
evening
this
proposed
mega
development
really
diminishes
the
value
of
property
in
the
neighborhood,
increased
congestion
and
infusion
of
ugly
non-conforming
bulky.
Out-Of-Scale
buildings
tend
to
detract
from
the
fair
market
value
of
surrounding
residences,
so
I'm
just
asking
please:
can
we
just
take
a
deep
breath
and
think
about
what
is
our
vision
for
Evanston?
X
Here
it
says
the
zoning
ordinance
prohibits
the
approval
of
a
variation
in
combination
with
the
planned
developments.
Section
6,
3,
5,
9
B.
The
city
only
may
grant
exceptions
to
the
requirements
of
the
zoning
ordinance
within
the
context
of
the
planned
development
approval.
I've
also
read
the
planned
development,
14:50
Sherman
ordinance
and
it's
my
understanding
that
albion
residential
is
asking
for
a
variation
outside
of
the
planned
unit
development
process,
so
that
would
be
violating
city
codes,
so
I
think
that's
grounds
for
saying
no
to
Albion.
Thank
you.
Matt.
Y
Evening,
madam
chair
members
of
council,
Matt
Rogers
I
live
at
1:33,
Clyde
Avenue
and
I.
Am
the
former
chairman
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals,
served
on
the
Zoning
Board
for
ten
years.
I.
Don't
really
have
a
dog
in
this
fight.
I
didn't
intend
to
speak
on
this
either
for
or
against
it,
but
I'm
very
bothered
by
some
of
the
discussions
that
I've
heard
it
has.
It
is
true
that
there's
a
there,
there
is
a
2009
downtown
plan
that
was
adopted
by
City
Council
City
Council
did
not
adopt
zoning
to
back
up
that.
Y
It's
an
excellent
opportunity
for
voices
to
be
heard
for
discussion
to
be
had
on
this
bothered
me
when
I
was
zoning
board
chair
and
things
would
come
to
this
council
after
we
had
heard
it
and
all
of
a
sudden,
a
new
side
of
the
story
is
being
told,
or
something
like
that.
I
would
ask
you
to
act
based
upon
the
the
process
that
you
have
put
in
place.
Y
Z
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
members
of
the
City
Council.
My
name
is
Geeta
tanner
I
grew
up
in
Evanston
in
the
60s
and
70s
fell
in
love
with
the
city
and
so
returned
with
my
husband
and
to
raise
our
children.
We
live
on
Washington
Street
near
Dewey
I'm,
here
to
represent
Evan
stone
Ian's,
who
are
in
support
of
development
on
the
1500
block
of
Sherman,
but
not
in
support
of
the
Albion
high-rise.
We
ask
that
you
approve
development
that
plans
for
human-scale,
which
will
establish
an
appropriate
transition
from
adjacent
neighborhoods
to
downtown.
Z
Instead
of
a
high-rise
and
one
long
Mass
of
a
structure
on
the
ground
level,
we
are
asking
for
a
variety
of
facades,
no
higher
than
four
or
five
levels:
high-rise
buildings
like
the
Albion
to
track
from
the
pedestrians
connection
to
local
architecture.
They
erase
a
sense
of
character,
block
sunlight
and
create
wind
tunnels.
We
want
a
downtown
Evanston
that
offers
intimacy
and
inclusion
from
its
building
development
rather
than
the
intense,
impersonal
feelings
one
receives
when
downtown
Chicago
say
architecture
is
like
music.
Z
A
AA
Good
evening,
I,
remember
being
here
when
you
were
talking
about
the
downtown
plan
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
and
it
seemed
to
me
that
there
was
little
enthusiasm
in
some
parts
of
the
council
for
that
conversation
or
interest
in
using
that
plan
for
any
kind
of
guidance.
But
here
we
are
tonight
with
many
speakers
about
this
particular
project.
There
were
already
several
other
projects
when
you
last
talked
about
this,
such
as
the
Northlight
development
on
German
north
of
church.
AA
As
now,
there
are
two
new
ones
that
have
sprung
up
like
little
mushrooms
after
the
rain,
the
active
seniors
housing
on
oak
and
a
new
proposal
for
yet
another
tower
on
Chicago
Avenue.
It
seems
to
me
it
is
really
not
an
option
whether
or
not
you
want
to
deal
with
the
downtown
plan.
I
think
you
must
deal
with
the
downtown
plan.
AA
We
need
to
have
some
kind
of
baseline
for
residents
for
the
council
for
developers
so
that
we
are
not
all
spinning
our
wheels
and
spending
time
on
things
when
there
may
be
some
standards
that
we
should
be
following
as
a
community,
so
I
urge
you
to
go
back
to
that.
Find
the
parts
that
you
all
agree
on
find
the
parts
that
need
discussion
and
let's
go
back
to
that
effort
where
so
much
has
been
invested
already.
Thank
you.
Thank.
AB
AC
Thank
you
for
holding
Sherman
Avenue
in
committee
last
meeting
and
I
strongly
recommend
that
you
continue
demand
to
demand
that
this
project
be
modified
to
conform
more
explicitly
with
city
zoning.
The
developers
made
major
changes
to
the
project
submitted
just
last
Thursday,
which
is
inappropriate,
including
an
attempt
to
correct
the
ground
floor
plan.
According
to
the
logistical
criticisms.
Well,
the
more
time
is
needed
to
review
it.
A
quick
review
finds
that
there
are
many
more
real
problems
with
this
latest
revision.
AC
Trucks
can't
possibly
get
into
the
loading
berths
to
a
lease
too
short,
oh
narrow
and
the
actual
loading
from
the
back
of
the
trucks
and
getting
to
the
residential
elevators
is
not
possible
at
all.
In
this
new
hallway
to
the
elevators
does
not
possible.
Has
no
Headroom
because
of
the
parking
ramp,
which
would
have
to
be
24%
clear.
The
hallway
the
retail
trash
room
is
still
too
small.
There
would
be
dumpsters
in
the
alley.
AC
The
north
retail
space,
both
the
loading
and
the
trash,
must
now
cross
the
residential
lobby.
There
is
still
no
residence
retail
parking,
even
though
25
retail
parking
spaces
are
required.
The
plan
obviously
is
endeavoring
to
minimize
the
available
retail
since
we're
all
concerned
about
empty
retail.
It's
incredible
that
in
a
37,000
square
foot
floorplan
there's
now
only
6,800
square
feet
of
retail
ten
more
seconds.
Please.
There
was
previously
three
small
spaces.
Now
there
are
only
two.
The
fact
is
that
this
committee
here
needs
to
be
more
discerning
and
understanding
of
the
impact
of
these
buildings.
AC
A
AD
Hi,
my
name
is
herb
chuckle
and
we've
been
in
residence
here
in
Evanston
for
over
40
years.
We
didn't
move
into
Evanston
because
it
looks
like
downtown
Chicago
and
that's
the
direction
we're
going
in
at
the
last
meeting
two
weeks
ago,
several
aldermen,
or
a
couple
of
aldermen
expressed
an
interest
in
this
property
because
of
the
benefits
do
we
need
all
of
these
benefits
and
from
one
development
can't
we
get
along?
Can't
we
get
along
with
fewer
benefits
and
fewer
extreme
zoning
variances.
AD
AE
Hi
good
evening,
I
am
current
resident
of
Evanston
I've
been
one
for
40
years
I'm
in
the
sixth
Ward.
Now
my
priority
for
Evanston
is
transparency,
a
democratic
process
and
one
where
all
the
groups
of
Evanston
are
represented.
I'm,
a
high
school
teacher,
and
to
do
my
job
well,
I
need
to
have
strong
connections
with
all
students
and
that
that
started
here
in
Evanston.
For
me,
so
I
guess
this
Albion
project
is
part
of
an
interest
of
affordable
housing
and
housing.
AE
Why
would
we
miss
this
opportunity
with
almost
nearly
300
units,
to
make
it
now
to
not
make
it
a
priority
to
ensure
that
our
community
is
committed
to
what
it
was
when,
when
I,
when
I
grew
up
here,
when
I
came
up
here
in
my
youth
and
just
looking
at
the
median
income
for
black
and
Latino
families,
it's
just
the
the
whole.
This
whole
approach
to
this
development
to
me
has
the
wrong
priorities
so
I'm
going
to
urge
you
to
vote
no,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
A
A
V
AF
Yes,
I'm
a
resident
long
term
Evanston
lived
here
about
45
years
from
107
and
I've,
seen
a
lot
of
changes
and
right
now
we're
living
in
a
very
crisis
moment.
I,
don't
need
to
say
that,
every
day
everywhere
we
read
about
the
interests
of
very
wealthy
persons
in
our
culture
versus
the
needs
of
working
people,
the
middle
class
and
the
poor
who
make
up
our
communities.
AF
AF
First,
the
increase
of
land
value
in
heaven
stand
from
these
mega
buildings
will
be
have
a
tremendous
negative
effect
on
the
long-term
on
Evan
stone
Ian's,
who
have
lived
here
for
so
long
from
a
time
when
the
working-class
and
middle-class
could
afford
to
stay
here.
The
claim
of
the
two
million
dollars
in
taxes
is
a
wash.
They
are
merely
the
crumbs
that
we
will
get
compared
to
the
Bonanza
that
the
this
multi
billion
dollar,
these
multi-million
dollar
developers
will
be
getting
as
it
as
a
lot
of
it.
AF
AF
It
could
be
less
greedy,
but
will
he
I
think
that's
going
to
be
up
to
you?
Evans
do
nians
did
not
sign
on
to
be
run
roughshod
over
such
a
massively
unfit
plan,
with
no
consideration
of
our
thoughts.
We've
tried
so
hard
to
get
this
body
elected
to
be
more
progressive,
Mississippi
City
representatives.
You
were
in
the
last
election.
Thank
you,
I'll
say
it
as
I
said
before
we're
watching
how
you
vote
tonight
and
which
side
are
you
on?
Thank
you.
AG
Alex
is
trying
to
get
here
he's
running
late,
so
he
asked
me
to
read
a
statement
on
his
behalf:
I'm
Claire,
Kelly
and
I'm
reading
on
behalf
of
Alex
block.
Tonight's
discussion
is
not
about
pro
development
versus
anti
development.
It's
really
a
discussion
about
good
development
versus
bad
development
and
the
Albion
proposal
is
a
development.
The
last
the
least
privileged
communities
have
been
sold
the
same
bag
of
Bologna
for
centuries,
they're
told
big
high-rise.
Developments
by
for-profit
developers
will
bring
tax
dollars
to
the
city,
spur
growth
and
lift
all
boats
with
the
rising
tide.
AG
But
history
disproves
this
argument.
Optima
Towers
didn't
solve
our
budget
crisis,
the
main
hasn't
diversified,
the
Third
Ward
and
the
Albion
sure
won't
provide
homes
to
those
who
need
it
most.
The
council
should
not
fall
for
the
same
old
shtick,
while
developers
make
away
like
bandits
and
communities
are
left
behind,
wandering
wandering
what
wondering
what
went
wrong,
but
here's
what
went
wrong
developments
like
these
are
never
about
building
better
communities
they're
about
maximizing
profits.
We
shouldn't
be
a
city
where
major
corporations
eat
up
real
estate,
while
skating
around
affordable
housing
laws.
AG
AB
Hi
I
live
in
the
5th
Ward
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
came
to
Evanston,
because
it's
a
diverse
community
with
mixed
income,
people
and
I
feel
it's
really
wrong
to
build.
This
huge
al
beyond
development,
with
only
15
units
for
low-income
people
and
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
what's
been
said
that
hundreds
of
families
have
been
driven
out
of
Evanston,
not
because
they're
african-american,
but
because
they're
low-income,
who
are
we
going
to
support
the
low-income
families
or
are
we
going
to
be
supporting
billionaires
coming
in
with
these
developments?
A
AH
Thank
you
very
much,
I
appreciate
it.
So
you
know
we
take.
We
take
very
seriously
everything
that
we
hear
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
public
comment.
There's
been
a
lot
of
feedback
through
the
whole
process.
We've
had
neighborhood
group
meetings,
multiple
dapper
meetings,
multiple
Planning
Commission
meetings
and
now
multiple
Commission
meetings
here
before
committee
meetings
before
we
move
forward.
If
we
move
forward-
and
we
take
every
comment
that
we
hear
very
seriously.
AH
So
I
wanted
to
start
downup.
You
are
our
zoning
attorney.
Typically,
does
our
relief
section
but
I
want
I
wanted
to
do
it
I
wanted
to
talk
about
what
happened
here.
So
we
we
came
to
the
meeting
two
weeks
ago
and
we
heard
a
lot
of
comment
and
we
said:
okay,
let's
go
back
and
sit
down
and
digest
some
of
that
comment.
How
can
we
handle
that
comment,
and
what
came
about
is
that
we
decided
to
reduce
the
building
by
a
floor
and
that
took
a
whole
floor
out
of
the
building.
AH
Is
we
have
an
adjusted
model?
That's
here
on
display
today,
which
keeps
the
building
more
in
scale
in
line
with
the
Holiday
Inn
across
the
street
and
dramatically
lower
than
the
rotary
building
just
just
north
of
the
project.
With
this
that's
reduced
or
height
to
145
feet,
excluding
the
parking
floors
and
it's
reduced
our
far2
5.99,
and
what
that's
done
is
it's
really
tightened
up.
AH
The
building
we've
decreased
unit,
count
by
by
13
units
over
the
last
two
weeks
and
we
have
not
maintained
any
change
in
other,
affordable
housing
units
that
we've
had
so
far
in
terms
of
the
cigarette
setback,
we
heard
you
we
listened
and
we
we
tried
it's
such
a
unique
sight.
It's
a
trapezoidal
sight
that
makes
it
very
difficult
for
us
to
to
make
the
site
work
so
we're
maintaining
a
cigarette
setback.
That's
now
pulled
off
the
lot
line.
AH
We
got
it
back
five
feet
from
the
very
tip
of
the
south
and
then
it
gently
curves
to
its
forty
foot
part
which
goes
from
majority
of
the
site
across
you
know,
as
you
can
see
our
continued
progression.
Where
do
we
start?
So?
In
May
we
started
at
298
units.
We
started
with
a
building
that
was
27
feet
taller,
which
is
just
about
three
floors.
We
started
with
an
F
AR,
which
was
almost
a
whole
point
higher
and
we
started
with
28
less
parking
stalls.
So
I
think
this
shows
our
progression,
who
we
are.
AH
We
are
a
little
bit
different.
We're
not
coming
here
every
single
meeting,
saying
to
this
council
saying
to
the
Planning
Commission
saying
to
anyone
that
this
is
it.
This
is
the
way
it
has
to
be
where
we're
at
today
and
where
we
believe
that
this
project
is
still
feasible
is
a
project
that
is
within
zoning
regulations
with
development
allowances
that
are
granted
other
than
cigarette
setback
and
MLA
in
MLA
being
a
density
count
is
just
a
function
of
the
economy
that
we're
in
there's.
AH
This
is
not
an
economy
to
build
condo
projects,
and
so
the
what
we
do
is
a
living.
What
we
study,
what
we
understand
is
multifamily
housing
and
we
have
studies-
and
we
just
met
with
a
great
brilliant
man,
Tracy
crossed
who
studies
all
of
the
multifamily
market
and
said
that
this
Evanston
marketplace.
This
project
that
we
have
in
our
unit
mix
is
very
efficient
for
this
particular
project.
AI
Evening,
as
Andrew
indicated,
we
have
reduced
the
building
height
by
a
floor
at
the
top.
We've
also
made
some
subtle
changes
at
the
front,
eliminating
that
large
open
area
and
the
height
of
the
columns
there
that
were
exposed
in
addition
to
bringing
the
building
down
this
corner
here
has
been
pushed
back.
We've
smoothed
out
the
curve
a
little
bit
in
order
to
provide
more
clearance
at
the
front
edge.
AI
The
two
end
elevations
are
similar
looking
to
what
they
are
other
than
the
height
that
we
have
changed.
You
can
see
at
this
location
at
the
front
facing
south
that
large
opening
again
is
gone
and
now
is
enclosed
as
a
residential
area.
The
rear
elevation
is
also
the
same.
We've
expanded
the
loading
dock
and
the
loading
dock
trucks
will
be
able
to
drive
down
the
alley
back
into
this
loading
dock
and
then
continue
on
their
way
out,
and
then
we've
also
a
slated
the
entrance
for
cars
and
separated
them
from
the
loading
and
trash
delivery.
AH
So
then,
as
we
get
to
the
back
to
the
first
floor,
I
think
it's
important.
You
know
again,
we
take
these
things
seriously.
Mr.
Williams,
you
know
he
was
here
last
week
and
he
actually
provided
us
with
an
email
about
rearranging
what
the
first
floor
looks
like,
and
you
know
I
look
at
it
and
said:
ok,
you
know.
Maybe
we
can
get
a
little
bit
more
detail
we're
in
the
schematic
stage
today.
These
are
not
the
finished
drawings
that
there's
a
dapper
proceeding
that
continues
to
go
on
with
with
the
project.
AH
But
what
we
did
is
we
studied
it,
and
we
said
how
can
we
help
the
flow
and
how
can
we
increase
the
viability
of
Sherman
Avenue?
What
we
did
is
we
took
away
a
retail
space.
We
have
a
restaurateur
who
was
here
last
week,
who's
Prairie
moon.
That
wants
to
be
in
that
restaurant
space.
It's
a
very
viable
size
for
him,
it's
a
very
viable
location
for
him.
He
has
location
on
Sherman.
AH
He
has
an
opening
that
opens
up
to
an
outdoor
terrace,
and
then
we
have
a
service-based
retail
space,
which
we've
had
several
conversations
with
people.
Who
would
take
it
tomorrow,
they're
very
interested
in
it?
So
we
said
we
can
reduce
the
amount
of
exposure
from
the
community
feedback
of
storefronts
and
in
vacancies.
We
know
that
these
can
be
rented
immediately
while
providing
a
lobby
experience
for
our
residents
that
flow
into
both
spaces.
They
can
be
open
and
they
move
back
and
forth.
We've
been
able
to
increase
the
parking
on
the
first
floor.
AH
Overall,
we
got
that
parking
count
up
in
over
200
stalls
now,
which
no
longer
requires
a
variance
for
the
project
that
coupled
with
the
reduction
of
units,
and
we
feel
that
this
this
flow.
Naturally,
you
know
it
works
for
what
we
do.
It
has
multiple
trash
rooms
and
it
has
the
ability
for
deliveries
to
be
made.
AH
C
AH
AH
I
do
I
lied
there
we
go
so
these
three
right
here
we
will
be
managing
that
system.
Never
will
we
code
here
requires
three
loading
docks.
Never
with
any
of
the
projects
we
have
done.
We've
ever
had
three
loading
trucks
in
a
project
at
one
time
this
would
be
managed
by
our
concierge.
So
as
as
a
retail
deliveries
occurring
for
the
restaurant
that
that
truck
will
come
up
into
the
alley
and
then
it'll
do
a
three-point
turn
back.
AH
There'll
be
an
area
there
for
them
to
unload
there'll,
be
a
man
door
to
walk
into
this
corridor.
That
corridor
will
have
a
door
into
the
retail
shop
if
they
are
coming
to
move
into
the
building,
then
they'll
be
coming
into
our
moving
corridor.
They'll
come
down,
they'll
move
into
our
corridor
and
they'll
come
into
our
move-in
lobby
and
enter
the
freight
elevator,
which
goes
up
and
down
all.
C
AH
Know
it's
there
so
that
space,
so
you
would,
if
that
space
requires
a
loading
truck.
We
see
it
as
a
small
based
service
based
retail.
If
it
does
have
a
loading
truck,
something
that's
come,
they
would
get
dropped
off
and
it
would
go
right
through
this.
This
is
still
part
of
the
corridor.
It
would
come
right
through
this
corridor
behind
the
back
and
enter
the
space.
Okay,.
AH
W
AH
Unloading
absolutely
understood
as
we
continue
to
go
up.
We
flip
flopped,
where
the
club
rooms
located
with
the
grilling
stations
unit
mix,
stays
similar
and
something
I
wanted
to
point
out
here.
There's
actually
there's
actually
an
air
in
this,
but
what
I
wanted
to
point
out
here
is
our
square.
Footages
are
a
little
bit
larger,
so
our
studio
square
footages
are
in
the
mid
above
500
square
foot
range.
There's
been
a
lot
of
talk
about
micro
apartments.
These
are
not
micro
apartments.
These
are
studios
that
are
very
sizable
in
size.
AH
These
are
Studios
you
would
find
in
Chicago.
They
are
not
compact,
they
have
full-size
appliances,
they
have
full-size
islands,
they
have
everything,
that's
normal
into
an
apartment
project
that
you
would
see
built
today
and
convertibles
are
actually
at
650
square
feet.
Average,
the
one
bedrooms
are
nearing
800
and
the
two
bedrooms
are
over
a
thousand.
This
is
a
very
classic
unit
mix,
that's
being
used
in
the
marketplace.
Today,
that's
successful.
It
says.
C
AH
AH
We
have
updated
landscaping
plans
that
just
show
the
correlation
of
where
the
landscaping
is
now
with
the
appropriate
retail
and
entry
place
locations,
and
we
have
the
pocket
park
garden
plan
continuing
to
be
updated
every
single
day
as
we
get
more
feedback
of
how
it's
going
to
work
and
operate,
and
what
I
want
to
just
leave
this
with
is
any
on
in
terms
of
the
community
benefits.
Something
else
that
we
heard
very
closely.
Was
you
know
what
are
the
community
benefits?
Is
there
room
to
move
the
community
benefits?
Is
there
room
to
adopt?
AH
You
know
different
ideas
and
initiatives,
and
the
answer
is
yes,
you
know,
and
what
I
just
highlighted,
here's
a
few
that
we
were
working
with
staff
and
going
in
a
direction
but
we're
open
to
different
ideas.
You
know:
we've
been
informed
from
staff
that
there's
a
young
entrepreneurship
program.
That
is
something
of
interest.
It's
definitely
a
of
interest
to
us.
This
would
be
a
full
union
building,
so
you
know,
if
that's
a
program
that
can
integrate
together
in
some
form.
AH
Horticulture
is
there'll,
be
a
lot
of
green
space
in
this
building
and
the
opportunity
to
learn
in
an
environment
that
is
conducive
to
the
future
a
lot
of
times.
You
just
read
this
in
a
book
and
someone
asks
you
to
do
something:
we've
we've
done
this
in
Pittsburgh
in
the
Pittsburgh
pulpit,
Public,
Schools
district,
and
it
was
very
successful.
The
students
would
get
dropped
off
at
the
site,
they
would,
they
would
show
up
at
the
site
and
we
would
bring
in
our
general
contractor
they'd,
be
dressed
in
their
attire
that
they
wear
every
single
day.
AH
They
would
talk
about
their
life
and
the
questions
would
come.
What
does
it
mean
to
be
in
the
Union?
What
our
union
benefits?
How
much
training
do
you
have
and
the
kids
would
rapid-fire
questions
as
the
construction
employees
would
answer
them
and
it
was.
It
was
very.
It
was
very
fundamental,
but
it's
an
experience
that
you
don't
get
every
day
as
a
student,
so
we're
committed
to
an
18-month
program
of
exchanging
classroom
back
and
forth
to
make
sure
that
we
put
a
schedule
together
with
Shelley,
to
ensure
success
in
that
program.
AH
AD
AK
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
and
we
are
actually
going
to
start
our
presentation
by
hearing
from
some
long-standing
small
businesses
in
the
area
that
we
hear
quite
a
bit
about
the
need
to
bring
density
to
these
businesses
that
we,
in
the
form
of
you,
know
very
large
building
here
and
we're
going
to
hear
from
30-year
business
owner
a
20-year
business
owner
and
a
15
year
business
owner
that
we
think
really.
These
are
a
reflection
of
Evanston
and
the
independent
businesses
we
want
and
we
love
and
they
love
us.
AK
AK
It's
now
that's
a
shame.
Well,
that's
Kathy
Papa!
She
is
one
of
the
owners
of
a
gia
and
she's
been
there
for
20
years.
It's
a
spa
that
has
gotten
accolades
locally
and
nationally
Misskelley.
AK
Don't
know
if
this
covered
anymore,
but
they
are
I
love
it.
Her
perspective
might
have
been
a
little
different.
They
love
the
residential
aspect
of
it.
They
love
being
here
she's
a
northwestern
graduates.
We
got
married
at
the
orient
in
hotel,
a
huge
fan
of
Evan
stone
Ian's
in
Evanston,
and
she
is
a
very
concerned
about
this
development
that
they
think
really
their
business
might
be
compromised
to
the
point
of
closing.
Anybody
can
go
the
next
one
just
to
see
their
pictures
and
I'd
love
to
send
these
to
you.
V
AK
She
is
from
Paris
and
she
had
a
she
has
a
business
she's
been
in
Evanston
for
30
years,
and
she
chose
this
area
because
it
reminded
her
of
Paris
and
she
really
likes.
You
know:
she's
made
this
her
home
for
30
years
and
she
is
not
against
development
at
all,
are
not
against
of
density
but
the
size
and
the
scale
and
the
continuation
of
the
building
kind
of
like
a
monolith
wall
she's
very
concerned
about
and
thinks
that
it
will
change
the
entire
feeling
of
the
area
and
next
is
Elisabeth
Hines
and
she
owns
wellspring.
AK
Health
she's
been
here
for
20
years
on
Sherman
Avenue
and
she
too
believes
in
evanston
and
speaks
so
highly,
but
she
has
been
compromised
by
her.
Customers
really
have
issues
with
finding
parking
and
sometimes
are
late,
and
she
feels
like
it
is
compromising
her
business
and
she
is
really
accessories
on
the
brink
of
deciding
whether
or
not
she's
going
to
stay
downtown.
Also,
there's
two
other
people
that
weren't
shown
in
the
video
but
to
other
businesses,
said
that
they
may
consider
leaving
because
it's
it's
not
what
they
had
in
mind.
So
I'm.
AK
Okay-
and
so
we've
heard
you
know-
there's
been
major
changes
here
and
sort
of
the
assumption
is
that
you
know
everything's
fine
in
terms
of
the
zoning.
So
here's
a
statement
from
former
CBA
chairman
Seth
Weinberger-
it's
here
it
is
the
revised
Albion
proposal-
does
not
change
the
fundamental
issue
that
the
proposed
building
is
too
massive
for
the
block
it's
being
proposed,
for
it
is
still
35
feet
too
close
to
the
street
on
the
southern
end
of
the
building.
It's
triple
the
height
of
what's
contemplate
in
the
downtown
plan
and
I
would
know.
AK
We've
talked
a
lot
about
that,
but
though
a
downtown
plan
is
on
the
website
as
an
adopted
plan,
and
it's
supposed
to
be
the
guiding
document
by
making
just
enough
changes
to
eliminate
a
supermajority
vote.
Albion
continues
to
demonstrate
its
reluctance
to
do
anything
except
the
absolute
minimum
required
to
get
approval
with
no
true
regard
for
public
interest.
So
there
are
still
four
allowances.
It
still
requires
four
allowances
in
the
Steve
for
transition
district,
so
I
will
stop
talking
now
and
we
will
go
on
to
a
closer
look
at
the
public
benefits.
Thank
you.
AL
Can
you
advance
it
everybody'll
great?
So
many
of
the
benefits
that
have
claimed
that
are
claimed
here
are
not
true.
Public
benefits
and
they're
really
offering
very
little
in
the
way
of
inducements
relative
to
the
really
significant
zoning
relief
that
they
are
requesting
from
the
city
and
accepting
these
kinds
of
inducements,
as
public
benefits,
would
really
set
a
very
low
and
unacceptable
bar
and
dangerous
precedent
in
all
future
projects.
So
we
really
want
you
to
think
very
carefully
about
that
as
you
look
at
the
benefits.
First
of
all,
next
slide,
please
thank
you.
You
know.
AL
Public
benefits
under
the
city
code
are
supposed
to
benefit
the
city
and
the
neighborhood
together.
Many
of
these
benefits
that
are
claimed
don't
really
fall
under
any
of
the
categories
of
public
benefits
under
6
3,
2,
6,
3
of
the
city
code,
I
think
it's
you
know.
We
really
encourage
you
to
look
at
that
section
in
detail
and
see
how
the
benefits
stack
up
against
that
next
slide.
AL
You
know
some
of
the
benefits
are
benefits
that
are
actually
that
are
actually
amenities
masquerading
as
benefits
things
like
the
divvy
membership
for
the
residents,
the
transit
tracker
and
the
car
share
programs.
Those
are
great
despite
the
ones
that
are
for
the
residents,
but
they
don't
really
benefit
the
city
or
the
public
generally
at
all,
they're
great
for
the
city,
not
for
the
public
and
then
second,
there
are
other
benefits.
AL
These
one-time
benefits,
large
payments,
we've
heard
a
little
more
that
tonight
they're
great,
but
they
have
no
real,
lasting
impact
for
the
public
and
the
neighborhood,
their
one-time
benefits,
and
then
you
know
they
expire.
The
city's.
The
building
is
here
for
decades
and
decades
and
they've
gone
by
the
wayside.
So
what's
left
in
all
this
are
things
like
the
LEED
certification,
the
Silver
LEED
certification
are
relatively
minor
in
impact
and
have
very
little
in
value
relative
to
the
significant
zoning
relief
that
the
developer
is
asking
for
you
tonight,
Thanks.
AB
AJ
Hi
I'm
Leslie
macmillan,
I'm
a
25
year
resident
of
Evanston
and
I.
Also
am
a
banker
for
25
years
and
have
worked
with
a
lot
of
developers
in
commercial
lending
as
well
as
ultra
high-net-worth
I
wanted
to
talk
specifically
about
the
finances
of
the
project
and
talk
more
directly
about
the
company
of
abeyance
requests
to
do
below
the
10
percent
guideline
on
the
affordable
housing.
AJ
My
question
to
the
the
council
is:
why
on
earth
are
we
going
to
do
something
like
that?
Why
do
we
need
to
guarantee
them
such
a
large
return,
the
10-year
bonds
at
two
and
a
half
percent?
If
you
look
at
equities,
you're
lucky
to
get
78
percent
on
a
year-over-year
basis,
so
locking
in
the
sort
of
profitability
really
seems
unfair
to
me,
and
it
looks
as
though
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
really
sort
of
subsidize
their
returns
at
the
expense
of
our
most
underprivileged
population.
AJ
So
I
would
just
ask
you
absolutely
to
consider
that,
and
there
are
other
proposals
out
there
that
have
already
offered
to
do
the
10
percent
and
just
as
an
aside
looking
at
the
metrics
that
they're
at
the
lowest
level,
where
they
are
providing
all
29
units.
Just
a
wide
survey
today
of
commercial
lenders.
AJ
That
I
know
said
you
know
without
knowing
what
the
advance
rates
or
the
rent
rolls
are
at
5.4
and
a
our
cap
rate
are
five
point
four
cap
rate
and
13
one
point:
one
percent
IRR
there's
a
lot
of
deals
out
there
getting
done
at
that
level.
This
is
simply
that
the
general
partners
and
the
limited
liability
partners
want
a
bigger
bang
for
their
buck.
I
would
encourage
you
if
you
do
move
forward
with
this
project
to
a
minimum,
make
sure
they
do
the
10%.
R
I'd
like
to
just
remind
you
what
happened
on
nine
thirteen
2017
the
plan
commission
what
they
approved.
The
Commission
recommended
approval
of
the
plan,
development
with
conditions
recommended
by
staff
and
the
additional
conditions
below.
Please
notice,
what's
in
red,
so
they
they
their
approval,
was
conditional
on
additional,
affordable
units
by
households
at
50
to
60%
of
ami
and
that's
consistent
with
our
inclusionary
housing
ordinance.
It's
important
to
remember
that
this
plan
is
in
a
a.
R
Transit-Oriented
development,
it's
in
a
Tod
area:
okay,
the
next
slide,
so
here's
the
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
asked
for
fee
and
lieu
payment
into
the
affordable
housing
fund,
10%
units
in
a
Tod
at
50
to
60
percent
joining
forces,
our
affordable
housing
people
broad
sect.
You
know
cross
section
of
our
community
that
has
worked
on
affordable
housing
requested
to
require
at
least
15,
affordable
units
and
payment
into
the
affordable
housing
fund.
The
plan
commission
is,
we
just
saw
approved
with
the
condition
of
50
to
60%
ami.
R
So
what
we
have
now,
though,
that's
been
glossed
over
is
we've
been
told.
This
is
an
alternative,
equivalent
proposal,
15
units
of
affordable
housing
but
notice
it's
at
60
to
80
percent
of
ami.
Eight
units
are
at
80%
of
AMI.
That
is
not
what
is
in
the
affordable
housing,
clue
scenario:
Seng
ordinance
for
a
transit-oriented
development.
We
can't
find
this:
where
is
this
included
kind
of
the
next
slide?.
R
So
our
affordable
mix
of
60
to
80%
lends
itself
more.
This
is
a
quote
from
communication
between
the
city
and
Albion
lends
itself
more
to
rent
controlled,
quote:
affordable
workforce
housing
not
as
much
to
govern
not
as
much
to
subsidized
government
housing.
So
what
does
this
mean?
Well,
Albion
help
the
targeted
target
group
ID'd
by
the
city
and
advocacy
groups
seems
like
they
don't
want
to.
This
is
they're
saying
this
they're
not
targeting
that
have
the
next
slide,
so
the
Albion
development,
even
if
they
complied
with
everything
in
the
inclusionary
housing.
R
Organizational
affordability
and
diversity
in
Evanston
so
because
the
luxury
rate
rents
in
the
Albion
development
will
contribute
to
further
increase
of
average
rents
for
families,
and
there
was
an
article
that
was
scoffed
at
and
quotes
were
sherry
picked
that,
oh
this
article
actually
of
you
know
supports
building
luxury
developments.
It
actually
doesn't.
It
says
that
such
developments
will
only
benefit.
R
You
know
single
people.
Families
will
not
benefit
from
an
eventual
price
drop,
even
if
we
over
build,
because
families
do
not
live
in
studio.
One-Bedroom
apartments
and
I've
been
told
that
some
constituents
have
gotten
emails
from
the
mayor.
Saying
that
don't
worry
these
units
are
for
single
people,
you
know
they're,
not
they
don't
need
to
be
big.
Their
first
single
professionals
I'd
like
to
remind
everywhere
to
point
out
that
the
area
african-american
median
income
is
$44,000.
R
Albion,
development
targets,
single
people
with
incomes
of
42
K,
that's
sixty
percent
or
256
K,
that's
80
percent,
so
anyway,
so
the
next
person
that
is
going
to
speak
as
Tim
Allison
who's,
an
expert
in
Community
Economic
Development
to
address
the
impact
of
development
or
diversity,
but
I
also
like
to
point
out
really
quickly.
There's
a
slide
missing
that
I
put
in
here
section
5,
7
10
talks
about
relief.
R
If,
if
a
plan
is
not
financially
feasible
that
that
a
plan
could
reduce
the
number
of
affordable
units
or
the
amount
paid
into
the
fund,
I
didn't
find
anything
that
said
that
you
could
adjust.
The
percent
of
am
I,
so
is
this
is?
Could
this
be
considered
in
additional
variants?
Where
is
this
I?
Don't
see
it
in
the
iho.
AK
A
AM
AM
Because
I'm,
some
Allison
with
Argonne
National
Laboratory
I'm,
a
social
scientist
I've
done
all
the
work
with
community
local
Community
Economic
Development.
So
if
we
could
go
to
the
first
slide,
so
the
presentation
is
our
being
and
diversity
really
don't
mix.
So
I'll
show
you
some
simple
facts
to
show
you.
Why
that's
the
case
they
haven't
since
expensive?
You
can
see
the
first
two
indices
at
the
top
hundred
is
the
average
for
the
US
129
in
Evanston
for
the
overall
cost
of
living
on
76
for
housing.
AM
The
mid
the
median
housing
prices
348
six
very
expensive,
compared
to
Chicago
higher
appreciation
rates
in
the
Chicago
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
two
mental
to
two-bedroom
rental
prices
are
quite
a
lot
higher
as
well.
The
next
slide,
please.
Why
should
we
care
about
this?
Because
incomes
haven't
kept
up
with
major
costs?
You've
got
total
pet
personal
income
growth
between
those
years.
AM
Seven
point:
six
percent,
but
rental
growth
over
the
same
year
is
thirty
point
five
percent
and
in
particular
this
is
important
because
african-american
incomes
are
not
keeping
up
total
population
median
income,
2016
66,
one
growth
rate
right
there,
as
we
heard
from
Meg
the
median
household
income
in
the
black
community,
is
forty
five
six,
which
is
much
lower
and
the
growth
rate
is,
is
there's
also
lower.
It's
a
negative
next
slide.
AM
Something
else
to
consider
here
is
the
number
of
affordable
housing
units.
They
lost
three
to
96,
affordable
housing
units
over
that
in
that
time
period,
2000
2011,
that's
a
43%
decrease
which
is
very
significant,
and
then
there,
the
second
item
there,
the
number
of
single
apartments
less
than
$1,000
six
thousand.
So
that's
a
57%
decrease
over
those
years,
and
is
that
all
being
the
answer
to
this
problem?
We
don't
think
it
is
so
here
the
as
far
as
we
know,
these
are
the
latest
numbers.
AM
H
J
AM
Sound
like
this,
yes,
okay,
so
we
did
just
a
little
bit
of
simple
math
here.
The
proposed
rent
we've
heard
is
$1,500
is
the
unsubsidized
and
subsidized
rent.
But
then,
if
you
do
the
68
80
calculation
on
2016
area,
median
income,
you
can
see
that
the
the
range
there
of
median
income
that
the
developer
is
aiming
for
for
the
subsidized
units.
And
if
you
convert
that
by
just
using
a
third
of
allowable
income
for
rental,
you
can
see
what
the
rents
would
be
at
the
two
ami
levels:
eleven
hundred
dollars.
AM
A
A
AM
AM
Nineteen
in
2010
still
the
same
concentration,
but
if
you
look
at
the
scale
along
the
top
of
the
diagram
as
it
gets
further
into
the
red
is
the
higher
percentage.
The
maximum
concentration
in
that,
in
that
one
census
block
group,
is
63
percent
and
what's
happened
in
the
into
the
African
American
community.
You
go
to
the
next
slide.
If
you
look
at
the
last
three
columns,
you
can
see
how
the
African
American
community
is
declining
a
number.
It's
not
just
a
smaller
percentage.
AM
The
absolute
number
of
african-americans
living
in
Evanston
is
declining,
and
then
why
is
that?
Because
they're
being
priced
out
of
the
housing
market
to
go
to
the
next
slide,
we
urge
you
not
to
do
this
diversity.
Everybody
says
this
diversity
is
central
to
community
life.
In
Evanston,
it's
been
like
that
for
almost
a
century
having
enough
dispersed,
affordable
housing
is
the
key
to
maintaining
diversity
in
the
community
and
just
to
reiterate,
almost
3,300,
affordable
housing
units
lost
between
2000
2009.
AM
That's
a
lot
of
housing
to
make
up
for
people
that
can't
afford
anything
other
than
basic
housing.
Building
high-end
micro
apartments,
own
increases,
rents
and
housing
prices
and
Emerson
as
a
whole
does
not
provide
affordable
housing
for
working-class
and
African
American
families
Albion
will
only
hasten
the
exit
of
more
african-americans
for
the
community.
Is
there
priced
out
of
the
housing
market?
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
H
There's
very
little
vacancy
in
the
city
of
Evanston
and
one
way
you
get
vacancy
and
when
way
you
raise
vacancy,
is
you
keep
building
rental
units
and
so
an
absolute
diametrically
opposed
thinking
to
the
gentleman
who
just
spoke,
the
more
buildings
you
build,
the
more
the
more
units
you
generate
and
the
more
transitioning
you
have
from
current
units
into
new
units
and
federal
housing
policy
for
I,
don't
know
decades
and
decades
has
been
the
trickle-down
theory.
In
other
words,
units
that
are
left
empty
go
to
people
who
can
more
afford
them.
H
That
I
mean
you
just
look
around
right
now.
Those
units
that
were
built
in
the
50s
and
the
60s
are
more
affordable
than
those
you
so
I
built
that
were
built
in
the
90s
and
2000.
It's
just
a
blatant
economic
fact.
So
that's
that's
just
that's
just
that
and
you
know
I,
don't
think
when
this
developer
came
to
the
city
of
Evanston
he
came,
and
nor
did
we
take
his
project
as
being
something
to
improve
diversity
or
to
provide
affordable
housing.
He
came
with
a
upscale
class,
a
rental
project.
H
Now,
if
I
were
in
a
position
to
advise
this
man,
this
developer
I
would
advise
him
right
now,
even
though
I'm
very
supportive
of
connections
for
the
homeless
advice
to
put
fifteen
units
in
forget
it
go
and
provide
for
the
opt-out
hundred
thousand
per
required
unit,
and
you
will
totally
absolutely
positively
100%
comply
with
the
Evanson
law.
You're
right,
fifteen
fifteen
units
is
not
complying
with
the
Evanston
ordinance.
H
H
F
H
A
H
Think
he
would
do
that,
but
but
when
you
think
of
the
abuse
that
is
being
taken
here
about
how
dare
you,
how
dare
he,
how
dare
he
only
provide
15
units
he
could
he
could
be,
he
could
be
absolutely
adhering
100
percent
to
the
letter
of
the
law
by
doing
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
unit.
That's
my
only
point
for.
G
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
members
of
the
community
who,
both
for
and
against
this,
both
categories.
I
got
a
lot
of
correspondence.
I
tried
to
answer
as
many
as
I
could
so
I'm
grateful
for
that
dialogue.
I
appreciate
the
input.
I
certainly
did
hear
a
number
of
what
I
consider
to
be
very
legitimate
concerns
about
the
project.
Mister
Pappas's
comments,
I
spoke
to
other
businesses.
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
speak
with
mr.
G
Pappas
or
with
his
business,
but
those
those
points
are
very
well
taken
and
and
I
appreciate
that
I'm
going
to
take
a
pass
for
the
most
part
on
some
of
the
stuff.
That
kind
of
has
been
swirling
around
in
social
media.
Things
of
that
nature,
I
think,
as
as
people
I
was
talking
to
Doug
in
and
got
the
facts,
I
think
they
would.
They
were
a
pretty
understanding
of
what
the
facts
are
again
in
both
for
and
against.
G
G
In
conjunction
with
other
people
have
said,
we've
do
we
really
want
these
people
living
here?
I,
don't
know
what
that
means:
I'm
I'm,
very,
very
bothered
by
that
I'm
bothered
by
the
idea
that
the
that
the
building
wouldn't
have
black
residents
or
that
it
wouldn't
have
certain
demographics.
Frankly,
I
think
if
I
were
considering
living
in
the
building
and
I
heard
people
in
the
community
saying
I,
don't
want
transients
in
my
neighborhood
I.
G
Think
that
would
be
a
very,
very
strong
deterrent
to
my
decision
to
come
to
a
community
I've
tried
to
express
to
people
that
this
is
a.
This
is
a
building
that
would
house
people.
People
would
live
here.
This
would
be
their
home.
They
would
be
your
neighbors.
You
would
sit
by
them
at
the
coffee
shop.
They
might
become
your
friends,
you
might
go
for
a
bike
ride
with
them.
G
G
Alamin
Rainey
I
understand
your
point.
As
the
developer
was
suggesting
the
fee
and
Lou
I
felt
it
was
important
to
have
affordable
units
per
the
ordinance
spread
throughout
the
city.
I
also
understand
the
economics
and
my
preference
would
be
to
have,
even
though
it's
not
the
full
freight
as
of
what
the
code
might
otherwise
provide
when
we
passed
that
ordinance
I
had
very
strong
reservations
on
that
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
I
voted
against
it,
partly
for
some
of
these
reasons
it
would
allow
for
larger
buildings.
G
I
didn't
feel
like
there
was
enough
of
an
economic
analysis
done
on
what
the
cost
would
be.
I
felt
that
the
costs
would
trickle
down
to
the
other
unit
owners
in
the
building
and
I
think
that
ends
up
in
fact
being
the
case,
so
the
other
units
are
gonna,
pay
more
to
cover
the
cost
of
the
affordable
units.
G
That's
the
decision
that
this
body
made
and
we
have
to
live
with
that,
but
at
the
same
time
the
room
was
filled
when
we
passed
that
ordinance
with
clapping/cheering
people
that
that
was
a
great
idea,
and
you
know
if
you're
gonna,
if
you're
gonna
talk
the
talk,
you
have
to
walk
the
walk
and
is
this
perfect?
This
is
exactly
what
I
want.
It's
not
exactly
what
I
want,
but
the
only
solutions
I've
heard
are
things
like
restaurants
or
micro,
breweries
or
four-story
buildings
or
five-story
buildings.
G
You
can't
tell
me
that
somebody
building
condos
in
a
five-story
building
on
this
block
that
those
are
going
to
be
affordable,
they're
going
to
be
unbelievably
not
affordable,
and
if
we're
talking
about
the
demographics
for
this
building,
you
know
I'm
thinking
that
you
know
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
a
completely
different
demographic.
You
know
what
are
they
with
multi-million
dollar
condos?
You
know
even
the
ninety
three
units,
those
were
very
large
units.
Those
would
be
very,
very,
very
expensive.
G
Supply
and
demand,
we
don't
have
enough
housing
people
need
places
to
live
in
Evanston.
This
is
a
place
for
people
to
live.
This
building
does
not
tear
down
any
existing
housing.
There's
an
empty
lot,
there's
a
bar
that
is
closing.
There's
a
vacant
storefront!
Okay!
This
is
not
this
part
of
the
block
is
not
my
most
treasured
part
of
Evanston.
G
You
know:
I'll,
miss
Tommy
Nevins
disappointed
that
they're
leaving
I
like
prairie
moon
thrilled
that
they're
coming
back,
but
this
is
something
potentially
positive:
the
developers
sure
they
come
in
with
something
you
know
more
than
where
they're
gonna
end
up.
Everybody
knows
that
they've
moved
along
they've
come
to
the
meetings.
They've
participated
in
conversations,
I
think
that
we
have
a
very
open
and
extensive
process.
G
A
lot
of
people
would
submit
that
this
is
too
difficult.
You
know
to
the
contrary:
I
don't
think
this
is
nothing's
been
done
in
secret.
There
have
been
lots
of
meetings,
lots
of
communications,
lots
of
opportunities
for
people
to
get
their
voices
heard,
and
you
know
I
hope
that
we
can
going
forward.
You
know
do
stuff.
We
do
do
that,
honestly.
With
honest
conversations.
G
I,
try
to
tell
people
what
I'm
thinking
and
whether
you
know
whether
I
think
they
like
it
or
not,
and
sometimes
they're
mad
at
me-
sometimes
they're
not,
but
you
know
we
have
to
be
honest
with
each
other.
We
have
to
be
honest
as
a
community
if
the
affordable
housing
is
a
priority,
if
diversity
is
a
priority
and
if
breaking
through
some
of
these
segregation
barriers
are
a
priority,
we
have
to
start
doing
things
differently.
We
do
not
roll
over
for
every
developer
that
comes
to
town.
You
know
these
things,
get
tortured,
tortured,
tortured,
tortured.
G
F
Thank
you.
I,
too,
want
to
thank
everyone's
participation
and
all
the
very
reasonable
concerns
about
the
project.
I
just
want
to
say
that
there's
no
one
project
that's
going
to
solve
our
affordable
housing
issue
and
that
we
need
to
revisit
the
plan
which
we're
going
to
have
a
meeting
on
October
30th.
F
To
discuss
that
further
and
from
the
beginning
of
this
it
seems
to
have
transitioned
into
a
matter
of
affordable
housing
and
in
race
relations,
and
it
started
off
as
aesthetics
and
then
zoning-
and
it
just
seems
as
though
it's
a
moving
target
against
the
project.
I
said
at
our
last
meeting
that
aesthetically
I'm
not
a
fan
of
it,
but
there
are
some
opportunities
to
challenge
the
developer
in
the
public
benefit.
I
do
agree
that
we
should
comply
in
a
way
with
our
inclusionary
housing
ordinance.
F
The
15
units
is
great,
and
the
additional
public
benefit
as
proposed
is,
is
okay.
It's
not
good
enough.
There
is
some
some
opportunity
to
expand
the
units,
be
more
considerate
of
the
income
levels
and
also
be
more
thoughtful
about
the
size
of
the
units
that
are
going
to
be
inclusionary.
So
I
would
like
to
look
at
that
further,
but
as
we're
talking
about
affordable
housing
and
black
Evanston
residents
leaving
the
community,
we
have,
we
have
a
lot
more
that
we
should
be
talking
about
than
this
one
project.
F
We
have
wealth
that
is
transferring
among
certain
communities
in
Evanston.
We
have
pocket
listings,
we
have
houses
that
are
affordable,
that
are
just
not
even
going
to
the
open
market
and
those
are
affordable
houses
that
are
available
right
now
without
any
project.
It's
happening
in
the
fifth
Ward
like
there's
a
fire
sale
happening
I,
don't
know
where
this
underground
economy
is,
but
it's
not
making
the
mos
so
I
wish
that
we
had
the
same
amount
of
attention
and
enthusiasm
to
issues
of
our
segregation
and
disinvestment
neighborhoods.
Before
this
project
came
up.
F
I
do
want
to
continue
discussing
this
I.
Don't
think
that
the
public
benefit
is
just
right,
I,
don't
think
the
mix
of
units
for
affordable
in
terms
of
the
unit
and
the
the
income
levels
is
just
right,
but
I
am
open
to
considering
this
I
have
some
questions
for
staff.
Though
there's
been
some
statements
about
what's
legal
and
what's
illegal
traffic
study,
can
you
can
staff
speak
to
the
process
of
the
traffic
study?
There
was
a
statement
that
it's
illegal.
The
zoning
is
illegal
tort
law
we're
violating
city
code.
Can
we
respond
to
those
statements.
D
It
son
I,
have
not
received
the
brief
that
was
passed
out.
It's
unclear
to
me
how
tort
law
is
implicated
here,
other
than
potential
accidents
if
some
sort
of
pedestrian
access
I'm,
not
sure
where
the
nexus
is
there
to
tort
law.
So
I
can't
really
answer
that
and
they
did
a
traffic
impact
study.
I
think
it's
in
your
council
packet,
so
that
answers
that
question
and
you
know
they're
complying
in
terms
of
zoning
law.
That
was
the
last
question.
The
planned
development
does
not
exceed
your
site
development
allowances.
D
F
You
so
I
mean
it
appears
to
me
that
there's
fear-mongering
this
building
is
not
displacing
any
black
residents.
It
is
a
commercial
structure
that
we
heard
the
owners
say
is
closing
no
one
is
being
displaced,
there's
an
opportunity
for
increased
housing
and
I
think
that
we
should
focus
on
on.
What's
real
and
there's
a
real
opportunity
to
challenge
the
developer
for
improved
public
benefit
and
I
would
like
to
continue
discussing
it.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I
have
a
lot
to
say
on
this
and
I'll
try
to
be
as
brief
as
possible.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
everybody
from
the
public
for
your
emails.
Your
phone
calls
been
stopped
on
the
street,
had
good
conversations
with
everyone
and
I
want
to
thank
the
presenters
tonight.
C
Recently
we
passed
a
development
on
Chicago
Avenue,
that's
going
to
be
an
11-story
office
building
and
bring
500
jobs
into
the
downtown
and
I.
Think
at
the
heart
of
everything.
We're
discussing
is
jobs.
I
think
that's!
That's
an
answer
to
many
of
our
problems,
including
including
affordable
housing.
C
My
concern
and
I
expressed
this
some
time
ago,
is
that
this
is
a
very
difficult
site
and
is
it
architect
Williams?
Is
that
I'm
do
I?
Have
his
name
correct
I've
been
really
interested?
No,
you
don't
need
to
get
up
if
you're,
okay,
it's
not
him.
I've
been
really
interested
in
the
issues
that
he's
raised.
I've
had
a
small
business
in
the
downtown
in
a
space
around
2,000
square
feet.
I
know
how
the
downtown
is
used
by
small
businesses.
I
know
our
alleys
I
know
our
streets.
C
I
know,
deliveries,
I
know
that
even
for
a
store
the
size
of
our
old
store,
we
would
have
semi-trailer
trucks
coming
so
I'm,
very
protective
of
alleys,
I'm,
very
protective
of
not
blocking
bicycle
lanes
or
or
car
lanes,
and
just
how
our
streets
are
used.
I
am
not
convinced
that
we
need
more
rental
residential
buildings
in
the
downtown
right
now.
My
own
feeling
is
that
we
need
office.
C
Buildings
I
know,
there's
a
waiting
list
for
condos
and
even
though
there
may
not
be
financing
for
condos
or
an
interest
into
condo
development
right
now,
there
is
definitely
a
waiting
list
of
people
who
want
to
live
in
our
downtown
in
a
common
two
or
three
bedroom
condo
unit,
the
other.
The
other
issue
is
how
the
downtown
is
used
and
how
we
make
decisions
about
developments
again.
C
I
had
this
conversation
with
alderman,
Wilson
and
the
other
day,
and
it
was
just
something
that
popped
into
my
mind
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
need
in
the
downtown
again
from
my
experience
as
a
small
business
owner
is
you
need
accessibility?
You
need.
You
need
people
if
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
reenergize,
agree
tale
in
the
downtown
and
bringing
in
in
people
in
the
downtown
to
shop
and
dine.
C
C
It's
it's
almost
like
I,
don't
know
whether
you
remember
when
some
time
ago
when
people
were
talking
about
Wrigley
Field
and
how
outmoded
it
was
and
did
anybody
you
know
really
want
to
go
there
and
should
it
be
torn
down
and
something
you
know
no
should
be
built,
and
then
people
looked
at
Sox
Park
and
went
oh,
you
know.
We
don't
want
that
and
then
Camden
Yards
was
built
and
everyone
went.
Oh,
this
is
really
great
because
it's
kind
of
like
Wrigley
Field.
Well,
that's
the
way
I
kind
of
feel
about
downtown.
C
Is
that
there's
an
incredible
economic
value
to
the
character,
the
walkability,
the
context
in
our
downtown?
We
haven't
considered
that
yet
we
need
to
have
that
discussion
at
council
and
when
we
make
decisions,
especially
especially
about
the
buildings
that
are
coming.
These
are
large
buildings,
I
mean
there
and
I'm
stunned
and
how
large
they
are.
It's
gonna
change
our
downtrodden
downtown
dramatically
and
we
need
to
really
think
about
that.
So
I.
Think
of
this
building
sort
of
as
I
think
of
succs
Park
is
that
is
it
the
right
building?
I'm,
not
sure
it
is?
C
Is
there
a
better
building,
I
think
there
is
and
I
think
there's
a
actually
a
better
building
that
could
achieve
the
developers
goals,
because
this
block
doesn't
need
development
when
I
was
selling
real
estate
I
had
an
office
I
was
in
an
office
on
that
block.
I
know
that
block
really
well.
The
alley
is
horrible.
It's
such
a
tight
location,
I
I,
honestly,
just
can't
see
it
working
with
the
building.
C
That's
designed
right
now,
but
could
there
be
a
building
that
the
developer
could
do
that
would
achieve
what
they're
wanting
to
achieve
yeah
I
think
so?
Could
it
be
lower
I?
Think
so?
Could
it
make
them
a
lot
of
money?
Yes,
I!
Think
so,
and
I
want
to
challenge
them
to
do
that.
I
think
it's
important
to
take
a
look
at
that
and
think
about,
and
for
our
council
and
committee
to
think
about
what
it
is.
C
John
moore,
wherever
you
are
spoke
about
the
public
benefits,
I,
absolutely
agree
with
that.
I
really,
frankly,
I'll
tell
the
committee
right
now:
I,
don't
want
to
hear
about
divvy
bike
stations
anymore,
I,
don't
consider
that
to
be
a
public
benefit
nor
the
transit
ticker
in
them
in
the
building
I.
Just
don't
I,
don't
see
it,
I
don't
get
it.
These
are
our
downtown
is
precious
it's
so
small
and
and
we
need
to
plan
for
it.
So,
let's
all
work
together
on
this:
let's
do
something
beautiful
and
and
let's
forward
tonight,
I'll
be
voting.
C
AN
Well,
I
appreciate
alderman
Fisk's,
mention
of
the
need
to
I
think
reached
some
kind
of
consensus
about
what
is
our
vision
for
the
downtown.
We
have
all
these
really
big
developments
just
coming
fast
at
us
and
I,
don't
think
we
have
among
us
on
the
council.
We
haven't
really
had
an
opportunity
to
dig
in
and
talk
about
what
what
we
really
do
want.
We
we've
got
a
zoning
ordinance.
It's
all.
AN
We've
got
a
2009
downtown
plan
that
we
never
codified
and
I
think
we're
kind
of
floundering,
because
we
don't
have
an
agreed-upon
vision
of
where
we
want
to
go
and
I'm
not
looking
forward
to
having
these
can
continued
agonizing
discussions.
As
each
proposal
comes
to
us,
it's
I
know
all
of
us
spent
a
lot
of
time
just
reading
through
the
proposals
and
answering
your
emails
and
trying
mightily
to
think
about
what
is
the
right
answer?
AN
It's
really
a
big
balancing
act
of
how
do
we
have
development
that
I
think
we
do
want,
because
we
know
it's
going
to
bring
greater
tax
revenues
to
the
city
in
our
schools
and
that's
really
important
to
the
extent
that
it's
really
bringing
some
affordable
housing
units
to
some
of
these
developments
in
our
downtown
I.
Think
that's
really
exciting.
AN
It
fails
to
serve
as
a
transition
to
the
lower
density
and
lower
height
neighborhood
to
the
south.
It's
just
minimally
shorter
than
the
rotary
building,
and
so,
rather
than
creating
a
transition,
it
really
doesn't
create
a
transition,
then
down
to
the
height
and
the
mass
from
the
mass
of
a
core
downtown
to
the
resident.
Does
residential
areas
around
it.
AN
I'm
intrigued
about
we've
got
these
maximums
that
can't
be
exceeded,
and
yet
they
don't
seem
to
be
consequences
for
the
fact
that
the
number
of
dwelling
units
being
proposed
Dwarfs,
the
number
of
units
that
are
permitted
in
the
d4
district
273
units
proposed
compared
to
the
maximum
we
say
of
93
units
permitted.
So
how
do
we
I?
AN
Don't
know
what
the
I
guess
the
consequences
are
of
doing
that
and
and
I
do
continue
to
continue
to
be
concerned
about
how
the
building
is
going
to
feel
at
street
level
with
the
South
half
of
the
building
that
fails
to
provide
the
ziggurats
setback.
That
arm
is
required
in
our
zoning
code
for
Sherman,
Avenue
and
I'll.
Just
read
it
in
recognition
of
the
importance
of
maintaining
the
existing
pedestrian
scale
and
orientation
of
certain
specified
street
fronts
within
the
downtown
districts.
AN
In
keeping
with
the
policies
contained
in
the
plan
for
downtown
Evanston,
ziggurats
setback
is
hereby
established
and
required
for
the
street
fronts
along
the
following
streets
and
it
names
five
streets
in
Kurt,
including
Sherman,
Avenue,
so
I,
so
I
guess.
The
reason
I'm
kind
of
harping
on
this
is
given
the
number
of
major
development
proposals
that
are
just
on
our
immediate
horizon.
I.
Think
it's
really
important
for
us
to
be
clear
about
what
our
requirements
are
as
they
relate
to
maximum
building
height,
scale
density
and
setback.
AN
A
You
all
Nouvel
I
Gerald,
oh
I'll,
go
next
normally,
as
you
I,
normally
don't
prepare
a
statement,
but
because
I've
been
thinking
about
this,
so
much
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
did
not
leave
anything
out.
I
have
written
something
that
I'm
gonna
read
from,
but
I'll
I'll
extemporize,
someone
as
well
I
too,
want
to
thank
everyone.
Who's
been
in
contact
with
me.
I'm
sorry
I
have
not
been
able
to
return
every
single
email
that
I've
received
over
the
weekend.
I
have
read
them
all.
A
I
and
I
appreciate
the
community
discussion
and
dialogue
that
we've
had
about
this
and
the
passion
that
people
feel
about
this
and
I
have
to
say.
I.
Do
think
that
my
colleagues
on
the
council
have
I
agree
with
everything
that
they've
said
about
this
project
and
the
importance
that
that
we
have,
in
terms
of
considering
very
very
carefully
what
we
do
with
our
downtown.
With
respect
to
Albarn
rusyns
point
about
public
benefits.
A
As
chair
of
this
committee,
I
asked
miss
Leonard
to
have
the
staff
prepare
an
initial
memo
for
us
to
start
the
discussion
about
what
the
City
Council
thinks
are
appropriate
public
benefits
so
that
we
have
a
list
that
we
can
at
least
start
the
discussion
with
with
future
developers
that
we
all
agree
are
significant
enough
to
be
counted
as
public
benefits,
and
that
will
be
coming
at
a
later
meeting
for
a
discussion
when
we
have
time
for
it.
But
I
do
want
to
say
some
things
about
about
this
development
and
I
do
think.
A
This
project
is
very
compelling
for
a
number
of
reasons:
the
15
units
of
affordable
housing,
which
is
so
much
more
than
anything
we've
ever
had
before
in
a
project.
The
additional
foot
traffic
in
the
downtown,
which
is
very
good
for
business
and
we've
all
discussed
quite
a
bit
and
I'm
impressed
with
Mr
Ewell
and
his
team
in
terms
of
their
willingness
to
listen
and
to
a
lot
of
criticism
from
the
council
and
the
community
and
the
fact
that
they
were
willing
to
make
changes
for
all
of
you
who
are
out
there.
A
You
have
not
had
the
experience
that
most
of
us
have
had
over
the
years
of
dealing
with
developers
and
I.
Will
that
not
all
developers
listen
at
all
at
all,
but
despite
all
this,
I
cannot
support
this
building
in
this
location.
This
block
plays
an
integral
role
in
our
downtown
plan.
I
know
many
of
us
have
discussed
the
downtown
plan
and
that
it
has
never
been
codified,
but
I
was
on
the
council
when
we
approved
it.
A
But
really
equally
important
is
that
this
is
a
transitional
role
and
our
transitional
blocks
really
provide
several
factors:
they
first
a
bridge
between
the
more
intense
downtown
that
we
have
to
our
lower
density,
our
leafy
green
residential
and
our
low-rise
commercial,
but
the
other
thing
that
they
do-
and
this
is
really
important-
is
they
protect
those
less
dense
areas,
and
so
there
has
to
be
a
transition.
Otherwise
the
edge
of
the
downtown
creeps
closer
and
closer
to
the
lower
density
residential
and
you
have
no
longer
have
a
buffer.
A
These
things
are
all
in
very
close
proximity,
so
it
means
that
the
buffer
is
even
more
important
and
I
think
that
for
the
most
part,
we
get
it
right
in
Evanston,
so
that
our
residential
and
low-rise
areas
continue
to
thrive
and
our
core
downtown
and
some
of
our
commercial
districts
continue
to
thrive.
But
it's
it's
a
it's
such
a
careful
balance
and
it's
very
easy
to
tip
it.
The
wrong
way
and
I
think
approving
this
building
would
be
tipping
it
the
wrong
way.
A
I
think
something
that
we've
all
touched
on
in
the
whole
community
has
touched
on
tonight
is
that
we
need
to
have
a
clear
message:
that's
going
out
to
the
development
community.
What
we're
sending
out
right
now
is
static
and
they
are
thinking
that
they
can
come
in
and
draw
what
they
want
on
a
plan
and
present
it
to
us.
A
So
we
need
to
figure
that
out.
We
need
to
send
a
clear
message
that
about
what
we
value
here
in
Evanston
and
I
think
we
all
can
agree
on
it
and
a
lot
of
that
came
through
in
the
downtown
plan.
That
was
a
very
good
vision
for
downtown
Evanston
and
the
wisdom
of
it
is
unchanged
and
in
fact,
it's
even
more
important
because
we're
experiencing
this
kind
of
pressure
that
we
have
not
had
for
development
since
really
the
late
to
the
late
night,
1990s
early
2000s
and
having
been
on
the
council
during
then
it's.
A
The
last
thing
we
need
to
have
is
fighting
every
single
fight.
We
need
to
have
a
plan
and
we
need
to
follow
the
plan
and
I've
said
this
many
times.
Citizens
should
not
have
to
be
their
own
Zoning
lawyers
and
developers
need
to
have
clear
guidance
from
us.
We
all
have
too
many
other
things
to
do
with
our
lives
and
the
city.
A
The
point
is
whether
I
agree
with
alderman
Wilson,
if
you've
only
lived
here,
six
months,
you're
in
Evans
dhania,
if
you
were
born
and
raised
here
and
have
had
three
generations
of
family
here,
you're
in
Evan,
stone
Ian,
you
know
we're
we're.
We
welcome
everyone
who
wants
to
come
and
live
here,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
come
to
live
here
because
of
what
we
are
because
they've
had
to
live
in
places
that
aren't
Evanston.
A
So
you
know
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
respect
each
other
and
respect
our
differences
and
continue
to
keep
the
kind
of
civil
dialogue
that
Evanston
civil
but
passionate
dialogue.
That
Everson
is
known
for,
but
also
respectful,
because
that's
why
we
moved
here
because
you
have
the
level
of
citizen
engagement
all
right
now
we
need
we
need
a
motion
with.
Are
we
you
sending
this
to
the
council?
What
are
we
doing.