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A
The
first
I
want
to
describe
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
tonight,
because
we
have
a
very
large
crowd
before
we
get
started
with
the
formal
order
of
things
in
terms
of
under
will.
It
will
approve
the
minutes
in
a
minute
and
in
a
minute
and
then
we're
going
to
have
citizen
comment.
We
have
36,
people
signed
up
to
speak
and
each
person
will
get
one
minute
because
we
we
do
need
to
get.
We
have
a
lot
to
consider
tonight,
so
each
person
will
get
one
minute
I'll
give
you
hold
on
one
second,.
B
I,
just
there
are
so
many
people,
speaking
and
I-
think
they're
mostly
here
for
one
item.
We
do
have
two
other
items
on
the
agenda.
Maybe
we
could
do
the
public
comment
a
pertinent
to
the
particular
agenda
item,
in
other
words,
so
the
p1
and
p2
don't
have
to
wait
through
the
entire
lengthy
presentations
and
such
okay.
A
A
Okay
and
I'd,
like
us
all,
to
move
forward
with
this
in
a
civil
way,
if
you
I'd
really
prefer,
if
you
didn't
all
applaud
after
any
particular
issue,
I
recognize
everyone
is
here
who
you
know
you're
here,
because
you
care
compassionately
about
issues,
but
we
really
do
want
to
all
at
least
maybe
go
home
the
day
we
came,
you
know.
So
that's
that's
our
goal
and
also
deliberate
when
we
all
are
awake.
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you.
So
first
item
is.
A
A
A
E
E
F
Mostly
the
changes
we're
concerned
about
is
the
safety
issue.
We're
also
easy
about
accepting.
You
know,
commenting
about
Airbnb
ease
and
people,
making
those
comments
open
it
up
to
possible
criminals.
It's
a
very
quiet,
neighborhood,
it's
a
dead-end.
We
are
in
southwest
Evanston,
a
lot
of
seniors,
live
on
our
street
and
in
our
area,
and
a
lot
of
children
are
starting
to
show
up.
So
that's
wonderful,
but
what
we're
worried
about
is
the
long
term
effect,
and
then
it
only
takes
one
one
criminal.
F
F
G
F
A
I
Yes,
so
we
had
similar
in
our
neighborhood
and
noticed
went
out.
I
would
like
to
know
from
staff
the
difference
between
a
vacation,
rental,
Airbnb,
a
short-term
rental,
what
liberties,
or
what
restrictions
it's
unclear
and
I'm
asking
that.
Maybe
we
hold
this
so
that
we
can
get
some
more
answers
on
this.
G
J
J
F
It's
only
been
three
months:
I
mean
we
really
can't
say
that,
so
what
I'm
suggesting
is
that
if
we
were
given
extra
time
to
study
this
better,
you
know
I,
don't
know
if
the
majority
of
people
here
live
in
southwest
Evans
I
do,
but
so
my
parents
owned
that
for
43
years,
I
inherited
it,
and
it
has
been
the
same
for
all
that
time.
We
have
to
concern
ourselves
about
the
safety
and
agree
and
seniors
who.
F
F
F
E
Re
excuse
me,
but
I,
don't
think
it's
fair.
The
reaction
that
you're
giving
to
what
she's
saying
I
mean
she's
entitled,
and
so
are
we
I'm
to
feel
that
way.
Even
though
you
live
in
the
same
neighborhood
and
you
think
differently,
I'm
not
rolling
my
eyes
at
what
you
know
what
you're
saying
I,
don't
I,
don't
really
think
that's
fair.
J
E
J
A
B
Think
miss
Mason
come
the
licenses
are
good
for
one
year.
Is
that
right
and
they
have
to
be
renewed,
correct?
Okay,
so
it's
not
indefinite,
so
they
don't
get.
If
it's
not
a
one-time
thing,
so
they
don't
get
to
do
it
forever.
They
have
to
renew
it
correct
so
for
everybody
out
there,
not
just
yourselves,
but
if
you're
aware
of
an
Airbnb
in
your
neighborhood,
that's
an
issue.
You
should
definitely
call
and
raise
that
that
concern,
because
when
it
comes
up
for
renewal,
if
there's
a
trend,
you
know
the
paper
trail.
B
M
F
Those
we
were
sort
of
surprised
and
disappointed,
because
Steve
has
been
a
friend
in
the
neighborhood
and
two
other
people
are
missing
right
now,
who
were
even
closer
to
him
and
couldn't
make
it
and
we're
disappointed
that
he
couldn't
just
come
to
us
and
tell
us
and
I
think
I,
know
you're
trying
to
be
professional
Steve.
But
it's
just
really
a
disappointment
that
we
couldn't
really
have
a
good
discussion
of
what.
M
Well,
my
hope
is
that
everyone
can
use
the
time
between
these
meetings
to
get
together
and
listen
to
your
concerns.
We
can't
do
that
here,
but
I
then
I
don't
know
whether
he's
here
tonight,
but
if
you
can
okay,
you
all
can
get
together
and
and
and
talk
about
it,
but
I
I
do
support
the
hold
over
okay.
All.
J
N
N
Well,
I
started
Airbnb
in
June
of
this
year
and
called
the
city
of
Evanston
to
find
out.
Is
there
a
permitting
process
for
Airbnb
and
was
told
that
this
vacation
rental
ordinance,
which
was
put
in
place
in
2013,
would
be
the
process
that
they
would
use
to
approve
it?
So
I
was
sent
a
letter
for
450
neighbors
and
and
and
did
send
that
out.
A
Well,
I
think
that
the
council
is
urged
the
committee
is
urging
you
to
sit
down
with
your
neighbors
and
discuss
their
concerns.
I
would
be
happy
for
that
before
our
next
meeting
in
two
weeks,
and
perhaps
you
all
can
come
to
some
better
understanding
of
what
the
proposal
is
and
quiet
the
minds
of
your
neighbors
sure.
N
A
A
G
A
O
Hi,
my
name
is
Joshua
Hubbard
I
live
at
26,
30
Crawford,
which
is
pretty
much
across
the
street
from
26-28
Grosse
Pointe
two
corner
lot:
I
actually
sent
a
letter
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
about
the
parking
so
I'm,
assuming
you
guys
have
that
and
I
don't
have
to
repeat.
The
parking
is
really
bad
there
already.
O
But
since
this
proposed
Nix
has
been
talked
about
all
summer
they've
been
saying
the
the
people
promoting
it
have
been
saying
there
are
in
discussions
with
Sarkis
cafe
about
getting
to
use
their
practices
parking
lot
which,
from
the
beginning,
didn't
sound
right,
because
the
one
existing
knicks
restaurant
there
peak
hours
are
11:00
a.m.
to
1:00
p.m.
and
Sarkis
peak
hours
are
11:00
a.m.
to
1:00
p.m.
and
Sarkis
any
day
that
the
local
high
schools
are
closed.
O
Sarkis.
Their
lot
is
full.
Their
customers
are
parked
illegally,
all
over
the
neighborhood,
so
they
don't
have
enough
parking
already,
but
they've
been
there
50
years
and
they
they're
not
asking
for
a
permit.
I
realized
that
the
zoning
requirement
is
like
almost
no
parking
but
they're
also
asking
for
several
special
use
permits
and
zoning
variations,
and
they
have
not
done
anything
to
show
that
they
have
parking.
They've
got
a
plan
for
a
very
nice-looking
but
large
building
on
a
lot.
O
That's
not
that
big,
and
whenever
the
question
comes
up,
maybe
your
restaurant
is
too
big
for
a
lot.
They
say:
well,
we
already
bought
a
lot,
but
that
was
their
choice.
They
didn't
check
on
the
permission.
First,
they
bought
a
lot
fine
they're
talking
about
up
to
35
seats
in
four
parking
spaces
and
they
they.
Finally,
a
few
days
ago,
produced
I
think
you've
seen
what
they
call
an
agreement
for
parking
with
Sarkis
cafe,
but
there
are
a
few
problems.
O
The
first
one
is:
there's
nothing
there
to
show
that
Sarkis
has
any
rights
over
that
parking
lot
and
I
know
that
when
neighbors
complain
about
the
trash
from
the
parking
lots,
Sarkis
says
it's
not
their
lot.
It's
CBS's
lot,
so
they've
been
asked
I'm
pretty
sure
by
our
aldermen
in
the
city
to
produce
proof
that
they
have
some
rights
and
they
have
not
come
up
with
anything.
Secondly,
the
agreement
is
not
signed
by
all
parties.
At
least
the
copy.
O
That's
in
the
packet
is
not
signed,
so
it
wouldn't
be
valid
anyway
and
thirdly,
it
says
it
can
be
revoked
at
any
time.
So
I
really
think
that
that
agreement
is
just
a
trick
to
get
the
city
to
give
them
permission,
and
then
the
day
after
they
got
permission,
it
will
be
revoked.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
formally
revoked.
They
just
won't
be
any
parking
fornix
in
a
lot.
So
I
would
ask
you
not
to
give
them
permission
all.
K
A
P
Suffering
sure,
in
light
of
the
parking
situation
I'd
ask
that
nobody
support
this
the
whole
time
since
our
first
meeting
the
issue
was
the
lack
of
off
street
parking,
their
agreement
that
they
had
with
Sarka,
sees
a
lot
I
appreciate
that
they're
willing
to
aive
sarkis
lot
and
create
six
new
spots,
but
there's
nothing
to
show
that
they
have
any
permission
from
the
owner
of
a
lot
to
use
it
and
that's
an
issue.
It's
been
clear
from
the
beginning
that
off
street
parking
for
their
employees
and
customers
is
a
problem
there.
P
M
What
was
it
moved?
Yeah,
no
okay,
who's.
B
A
P
M
Well,
this
is
not
something
that
I
can
support.
I
was
actually
when
I
was
reading.
The
packet
I
was
extremely
concerned
about
the
use,
the
intensity
of
the
use,
the
fact
that
there
are
going
to
be
semi-trailer
trucks
delivering
to
the
site,
I,
don't
think,
is
appropriate.
Given
given
the
neighborhood
and
and
access
we
had
I
just
doesn't
don't
think
it
fits
into
the
neighborhood,
so
I'll
be
voting
no
on
it.
M
B
I
can
see
the
obvious
parking
issues
it
looks
like
it
is
a
primarily
at
least
it's
intended
to
be
a
drive-through
business.
For
the
most
part.
That's
that's
the
way
it
looks
to
me.
I
hesitate
to
just
say
no
out
of
the
box.
I
mean
you
know.
I
know
that
to
understand
you've
been
working
with
them
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
solution
on
the
parking
stuff,
but
you
know,
in
view
of
the
of
the
tone
of
the
committee
you
know.
Maybe
there
is
something
they
can
do
to
come
up
with
a
solution.
P
Here's
the
thing
that
the
neighborhood
not
crazy
about
it,
but
I
think
everyone
was
all
right
with
everything,
except
for
the
customers
using
street
parking
employees
using
street
parking.
There
that's
been
clear
from
the
you
know:
the
concept
is
fine,
but
without
an
enforceable
parking
agreement,
I
can't
support
it
and
I've
been
clear
about
that.
From
the
beginning.
All.
B
P
A
A
J
P
Q
Ben
Britt's
and
I'm
CEO
of
Nick's
organic
okay.
We
worked
really
hard
to
obtain
this
parking
agreement.
I'm
working
with
her
attorney
now
her
who's,
her
Marla,
the.
P
P
That's
what
I'm
saying
that's
not
satisfactory
to
me
or
the
neighbors.
That's
the
problem.
You
need
an
enforceable
agreement
and
if
you
want
to
hold
it
and
find
that
either
with
Sarkis
or
CBS
or
another
parking
lot
somewhere,
I
mean
I'm
not
trying
to
chase
you
away.
I
think
it's
a
great
concept!
I
think
you
know
you
work
to
overcome
a
lot
of
the
challenges,
but
this
one
hasn't
overcome
it's
too
early
to
be
here.
Q
P
What
I
don't
understand
your
point?
Well,
we've
talked
the
entire
time
about
that.
You
need
to
have
off
street
parking
for
your
employees,
which
we
do
know
you
don't.
So
you
can
restriped
a
lot
as
agreed
right
and
I'm
and
I
appreciate
your
creative
problem-solving
here
right
then
you're
gonna
get
six
more
spots
out
of
a
lot.
Sarkis
could
say
you
know
what
no
we
don't
want
you
to
use
these
spots,
we'll
take
them.
Thank
you
for.
Q
Q
A
P
Q
P
A
Second,
that
motion
so
okay,
so
this
is
a
chance
to
get
that
stuff
in
order
this.
This
will
be
held
here
in
this
committee
until
the
next
committee
meeting,
which
is
in
two
weeks
and
I,
think
you
should
sit
down
with
ultimate
safranin
in
person
and
have
them
explain
to
you
why
it's
it's
very,
very
important
that
you
have
an
enforceable
agreement
with
the
actual
owner
of
the
or
the
person
who
controls
the
lot.
Okay,
okay,.
S
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Coming
all
right
now,
we're
gonna
move
on
to
p3
and
first
we're
gonna,
make
our
way
down
this
list
and
I
have
my
timer
here.
So
we
will,
let's
all
try
to
stay
because
I
think
I
would
like
to
say
to
all
of
you
that
all
of
us
up
here
have
read
everything.
We
have
watched
everything
we
have
talked
to
everyone
who
has
tried
to
get
in
touch
with
us.
We've
gone
to
many
meetings,
so
we
appreciate
your
coming
out
tonight
very
much.
A
We
would
like
to
hear
from
you
briefly
and
then
we
would
like
to
deliberate
on
this
and
ask
questions
of
the
developer
and
also
the
citizen
group,
so
to
the
extent
that
someone
else
says
something
that
you
agree
with
and
you'd
like
to
take
your
name
off
the
list,
we
we
would
be
very
happy
to
do
that
for
you.
Okay,
first
person
is
rich
Cahan.
H
Hi,
my
name
is
richard
kahan
I'm,
a
member
of
the
board
of
the
Interfaith
action
of
Evanston,
an
association
of
42,
Evanston
communities
of
faith
and
spirit.
We
recently
received
a
packet
of
information
that
outlines
a
proposal
from
the
developer
that
calls
for
the
construction
of
15,
affordable
housing
units
at
the
Sherman
Avenue
site.
We
believe
this
proposal
is
faithful
to
the
2016
inclusion.
Inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
15
downtown
units
is
a
start
in
the
city's
effort
to
create
more
affordable
housing.
Interfaith
action
of
Evanston
is
neither
in
support
nor
against
the
proposed
development.
H
We
focus
on
the
developers
responsibility
under
the
ordinance.
We
are
pleased
that
the
developers
have
responded
to
the
ordinance
and
we
applaud
the
city's
effort
to
come
up
with
a
negotiated
agreement.
We
believe
this
agreement,
which
amounts
to
more
than
five
million
dollars,
shows
the
value
of
the
new
ordinance,
but
we
recognize
that
the
ordinance
should
be
carefully
studied
to
be
certain
that
it
encourages
the
construction
of
affordable
housing
units
instead
of
encouraging
the
pain
of
fees
instead
of
pain,
pain
of
fees,
interfaith.
H
U
Go
ahead:
hello,
Council
I
want
to
confine
I'm
gonna
confine
my
remarks
just
to
the
perspective
of
someone
living
in
the
middle
of
all
this
construction
I
bought
into
the
condo
at
1570
Elmwood
had
a
bird's-eye
view
of
1571.
Maple
going
up
saw
a
10-month
loss
of
access
to
Elmwood
Street,
both
pedestrian
and
vehicular.
U
It
was
you
know,
on
a
global
scale,
perhaps
a
minor
inconvenience,
but
now
I
want
to
transpose
that.
You
know
1450
Sherman.
That
is
not
some
minor
street
that
only
the
inhabitants
of
the
street
know
about
where
you
know
I
see.
There
are
seven
restaurants
there
that
I
frequent
I
can't
believe
from
the
pictures
that
I've
seen
that
some
of
them
are
not
going
to
have
to
close
I,
see
a
lot
of
chaos
and
I.
U
V
Good
evening
my
name
is
Jennifer
grandi
and
I'm,
an
homeowner
on
the
1500
block
of
maple.
That's
roughly
1,000
feet
from
the
proposed
building
and
I'm
here
to
voice
my
support
for
this
development.
In
my
neighborhood.
Several
commentators
on
this
project
here
and
before
at
the
Planning
Commission
will
note
how
downtown
Evanston
has
changed
in
the
past
decade.
I
can't
speak
to
that
change.
I
wasn't
here
for
it.
However.
I
can't
speak
to
why
my
husband
and
I
came
here
in
the
first
place.
V
We
purchased
our
home
in
downtown
Evanston
half
ago
because
of
the
vibrant
walkable
downtown
and
the
proximity
to
public
transit.
However,
here,
like
anywhere
economic
vibrancy,
does
not
happen
in
a
vacuum.
We
need
people
to
sustain
it.
Several
business
owners
publicly
specifically
praying
moon,
Pete,
Miller's,
boat,
wood
and
Lulu's
and
taco
Diablo
have
spoken
to
the
need
for
residential
development
in
the
area.
Now
I
grew
up
in
Oak
Park.
The
Albion
folks,
who
are
fairly
familiar
with
it
and
I,
know
that
10
years
ago,
that
downtown
was
a
ghost
town.
V
For
years,
it
was
a
ghost
town
because
of
the
lack
of
development
for
10
more
seconds,
and
now
I
mean
it's
not
because
of
more
development.
I
realized
there's
no
magic
bullet,
however,
and
to
fix
economic
development.
However,
nourish'd
just
succeeds
100
percent
of
the
time
in
keeping
the
status
quo
as
a
homeowner
and
resident
of
downtown
Evanston
I
urge
this
committee
to
continue
the
mission
of
thing
forward
and
to
continue
with
economic
development
in
this
city.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
W
Evening,
my
wife
and
I
are
home
owners
in
downtown
Evanston.
We
live
one
block
west
of
the
proposed
Albion
development
and
we
want
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
proposal
to
do
so.
I
think
it
may
be
useful
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
lifestyle
and
I
do
promise
to
make
it
relevant.
We
own
an
apartment
in
a
multi-unit
building.
It
means
a
little
extra
noise,
but
it
keeps
our
energy
cost
significantly
lower.
We
share
a
single
car
that
we
use
two
or
three
times
a
week.
W
We
walk
or
take
public
transportation
to
almost
everything
we
bought
an
apartment
in
downtown
Evanston
because
it
was
consonant
with
our
values
we
believe
in
vibrant
walkable
communities.
We
believe
it
takes
a
critical
mass
of
people
to
support
the
businesses
and
other
activities
that
make
communities
vibrant
and
welcome.
We
believe
in
public
transportation
and
ride,
sharing
and
biking
because
they
are
cheaper
and
environmentally
responsible
and
we
believe
in
multi-unit
housing
and
dense
urban
cores
as
general
principals,
since
the
alternative
is
Houston
or
worse
Schaumburg.
W
We
believe
these
things
and
we
live
by
these
principles
and
we're
not
alone.
You
know
they
like
to
say
that
Kevin
Stan's,
a
progressive
town
with
forward-looking
values
and
I
think
that's
largely
true
and
I.
Think
the
really
the
truth
of
the
matter
is
that
cities
are
growing,
changing
and
thriving
or.
W
X
My
name
is
Rick
Lynn,
council
members.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
say
a
few
words
I
was
raised
in
Evanston,
I
went
to
Oakton
Grammar
School
junior
high
and
Evanston
Township
High
School,
while
growing
up
in
Evanston,
we
went
to
downtown
frequently
we
went
downtown.
We
went
to
Tom
Thumb,
which
is
no
longer
there.
We
bought
our
bell-bottoms
at
C
leagues,
which
is
no
longer
there,
and
we
bought
our
gifts
at
caylor's,
which
is
also
no
longer
there
caylor's
as
an
many
other
city
areas
within
the
Chicago
area.
Why
aren't
they
here?
X
They
don't
feel
that
there's
enough
economic
benefit
to
the
area.
The
new
generation,
both
millenniums
as
well
as
seniors
and
I'm
on
the
senior
side,
are
looking
for
new
balance
between
life
work
and
play.
The
Albion
project
provides
the
design
for
the
new
generation
with
great
features,
environmental,
friendly
transportation,
convenient
and
the
design
that
allows
enough
space
in
an
apartment
to
live
comfortable
and
have
all
the
amenities
that
one
needs
has
shown
that
they
will
be
a
great
neighbor
members
of
the
council.
X
A
Y
Hans
Mickelson
I
live
on
Elmwood
a
couple
hundred
yards
away
from
the
proposed
building
in
one
of
the
historic
neighborhoods,
and
so,
if
I
need
to
change
something
on
the
outside
of
my
house,
I
actually
have
to
come
and
get
permission
for
that
which
I
understand
and
I'm
good
with
that
right.
But
when
you
look
at
this
building,
which
is
nestled
in
between
a
bunch
of
this
historic
buildings,
it's
absolutely
hideous
to
look
at
and
sticks
out
like
a
sore
thumb.
I,
don't
think
it
represents
at
all
any
sort
of
transition.
Y
I
think
it's
going
to
be
very
shuttering.
Jarring
change
and
I
also
think
that
those
of
us
who
are
talking
about
that
the
2,000
people
who
have
signed
on
at
least
represent
a
considerable
more
amount
of
tax
revenue
than
this
is
going
to
bring
in.
If
we
think
that
this
isn't
going
to
get
developed
with
the
current
laws,
then
I
think
the
thing
to
do
would
be
to
properly
address
the
laws
in
a
way
that
everybody
agrees
with
and
then
move
on
from
there.
Rather
than
just
pushing
the
laws
to
the
side.
A
Y
C
That
dudes,
wife
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I
just
wanted
to
state
that
I'm
kind
of
the
opposite
of
an
earlier
recent
transplant.
Here
we
moved
from
Chicago
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago.
We
specifically
wanted
a
lot
of
the
wonderful
character,
but
still
vibrant
town.
That
Evanston
is-
and
you
know,
I
think
it
is
already
quite
vibrant.
C
I
know
that
we
need
to
always
move
forward
and
consider
future,
but
I,
don't
think
it's
being
stuck
in
the
past
to
appreciate
what
we
do
have
there's
an
awful
lot
of
places
with
a
lot
of
glass
buildings
in
this
world
and
they
are
shooting
up
pretty
quickly
and
I'm,
not
quite
sure
that
that
is
what
serves
the
beauty
of
this
town.
I.
Think
the
people
who,
like
me,
who
actually
all
of
my
friends
from
Chicago
who
come
to
visit,
are
so
enchanted
and
also
concerned
about
exactly
this.
C
Z
Z
So
at
this
point
in
time,
the
buildings
are
in
a
state
of
condition
that
you
either
tear
them
down
or
you
you
know
just
limp
along
like
it
currently
is,
and
we
have
a
we
have
a
builder
here
or
a
developer
here.
That's
willing
to
take
the
risk
and
put
the
put
a
beautiful
new
building
up
walkable,
though
everything
that
everybody
wants
these
days
and
adds
a
lot
of
it's
almost
not
a
lot
of
money
to
your
coffers,
which,
from
your
earlier
meetings,
I
think
you
need
so
I
would
think
about
that.
Thank.
AA
Good
evening,
chairs
of
the
committee
I'm,
a
condo
owner
here
in
Evanston
I,
still
have
a
concern
about
the
alley
for
this
new
project.
Is
it
wide
enough
for
two
vehicles,
one
the
size
of
a
moving
truck
or
delivery
truck,
and
if
there
were
a
fire
called,
can
a
fire
truck
pass
in
the
alleyway
of
the
base
of
this
project
with
the
megacity,
creating
it's
creating
density?
A
lot
of
this
is
being
approved
by
some
people,
who's
paying
for
the
extra
firefighters,
their
equipment.
The
fire
truck
staffing
allegedly
now
is
at
three
maximum.
AA
A
AB
Evening,
thank
you
I'm,
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
Pete
Miller's
steakhouse
I,
fully
support
this
development.
We've
experienced
decrease
in
revenue
year
over
year
for
the
last
three
years
due
to
foot
traffic.
It's
been
hard.
There
are
certain
evenings
that
have
been
fairly
good
for
us,
but
majority
of
the
evenings
we've
seen
a
steady
decline
and
that's
due
to
the
decline
of
traffic
in
that
area.
It
hurts
hurts
business.
It's
hard
to
reinvest
in
business
when
there
isn't
that
foot
traffic
that
we
are
used
to
in
accustomed
to.
AB
We
want
to
be
a
great
business
for
the
community.
What's
great,
for
the
community
is
great
for
business
and
what's
great,
for
business
is
great
for
the
community.
I
fully
support
this
development.
The
bottom
line
is,
we
need
more
people
in
that
area.
More
people
drive
more
revenue
for
in
the
city.
Thank
you.
Thank.
K
G
AC
AC
AC
It
up
the
construction
will
so
clean
up
toxic
waste
from
our
former
gas
station
under
Nevins
and
there'll,
be
no
additional
parking
distrain
that
partial
and
the
reduced
height
will
greatly
reduce
the
wind
zone
and
reduce
the
shadow
on
holiday
inn
and
provide
a
much
nicer
transition
from
rotary
down
to
the
lower
buildings
to
the
south.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
AD
AD
I'll
leave
it
at
22
coal
factory
in
Evanston,
in
the
first
Ward
my
wife
and
I,
moved
to
Evanston
about
two
years
ago.
The
main
reason
we
moved
here
was
because
of
the
culture
and
architecture
that
Evanston
offers.
You
know
the
old
buildings
and
everything
I
think
that's
what
makes
the
charm
of
heavens,
then
new
developments
are
always
hard
on
the
community
and
tend
to
divide
neighbors,
as
we
can
see
tonight.
I
understand
that
there's
a
need
to
increase
revenue,
but
as
a
business
owner
I
know,
it's
important
to
focus
on
our
strengths
and
Evan.
AD
Sustained
strength
is
not
building
high-rises
Evanson
strength
is
its
diverse
community,
the
two
great
college
campuses.
We
have
safety
and
it's
rich
history
and
enshrine
ten
more
seconds
in
the
house
and
building
around
town.
By
approving
this
high-rise,
you
will
sell
a
few
expensive
condominium,
but
you
will
lose
residents
who
appreciate
what
Evanston's
has
to
offer
today
and
thank
you.
A
AE
Alderman
wrote
it
like:
rowboat
hit
a
ball
okay,
so
I'm
the
one
of
the
owners
of
Tommy
Nevins
as
well
as
Pete
Miller's,
and
the
one
thing
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about.
Actually
there's
a
couple
things:
we
put
this
location
up
for
sale
voluntarily,
and
we
did
that
for
several
reasons,
one
of
which
was
declining
revenue
year-over-year
to
the
point
where
now
we're
very
we're
struggling
and
we're
at
a
point
where
the
location
is.
AE
Obviously
we
sold
it
to
Albion
in
doing
the
site
remediation,
we
found
out
that
the
soil
was
contaminated,
and
that
meant
that
the
only
way
for
us
to
really
sell
this
property
is
to
someone
who's
going
to
develop
it,
and
this
develop
sentence.
Okay,
sorry
and
this
development
is
is
very
integral
not
only
to
us
personally
but
to
the
city
of
Evanston.
We
will
drive
more
revenue
to
our
other
stores
and
to
other
businesses
and
I
think
that
this
is
what's
best
for
Evans
them
and
speaking
for
Tommy
Nevins,
where
we're
about
to
close.
S
Councilmembers
I'll
do
an
abbreviated
version,
I
believe
the
addition
of
286
apartments
and
some
350
additional
residents
in
the
downtown
corridor
can
only
help
the
ongoing
revitalization
of
our
downtown
neighborhood.
These
additional
new
residents
will
use
services,
restaurants,
shops,
etc.
To
quote
dan
couch
owner
of
Lulu's
taco
Diablo
and
five-and-dime
quote.
Each
person
is
going
to
eat
close
to
1,100
meals
a
year,
representing
that
many
additional
opportunities
for
downtown
restaurants
to
increase
their
business.
Unquote
by
my
math.
That
means
almost
three
hundred
and
eighty-five
thousand
business
opportunities
for
restaurant
owners
each
year.
S
Add
this
to
the
additional
retail
business
opportunities
used
by
our
new
neighbors
for
goods
and
services,
and
this
is
a
significant
boost
to
the
downtown
economy.
The
property
tax
is
estimated
to
be
a
million
dollars
annually
over
750
thousand
dollars.
More
than
current
does
Evanson
move
forward
or
simply
stay
in
place.
I
believe
we
as
a
city
should
move
forward
into
the
21st
century
with
thoughtful
and
beautifully
designed
development
that
adds
to
the
vitality
of
our
city.
Ten
more
seconds.
S
We
should
follow
the
steps
of
Oak
Park,
whose
Village
Board
just
last
Monday,
approved
a
similar
Albion
development
to
quote
park.
Mayor
quote:
I
know
that
I
am
not
in
love
with
high-rises
I
am
in
love
with
Oak
Park.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
I
believe
that
we
have
a
project
that
is
good
for
the
village
of
Oak,
Park,
unquote,
I,
Tomas,
Wesley
and
in
love
with
Evanson,
and
believe
that
Aldi
and
development
is
good
for
the
city
of
Evanston.
Thank.
A
G
AF
Representatives
here
from
Evanston
Township,
High
School
for
a
proclamation
for
llamó-
are
you
here
anyone
here
from
Evanston
Township,
High,
School,
okay,
they're
there
in
the
back.
Thank
you.
We
were
going
to
Mary
Mary
hacker
he's
going
to
give
them
their
Proclamation
a
little
early,
so
they
don't
have
to
wait
and
tell
them.
A
T
Everything
every
person
on
my
block
who
has
lived
here
on
that
block
for
at
least
35
years,
there's
four
four
or
five
couples
here
and
they're
really
concerned
not
only
about
the
building
going
up,
but
the
construction
of
the
building
Tim
we
haven't
and
also
if
all
zoning
laws
are
just
thrown
out,
our
street
elm
wood.
All
the
way
down
is
susceptible
to
having
developers
put
up
high-rises
there,
because
it's
not
in
the
lakeshore
histor
to
historic
district
and
it's
not
in
the
rich,
historic
district.
That's
what
I
wanted
to
say.
AG
AG
These
are
my
personal
notes
for
one
of
the
dapper
meetings.
August
2nd
2017
I
would
like
to
send
that
to
the
members
so
that
you
can
compare
it
with
the
packet
that
you
have
before
you,
which
I
submit
to
you
is
incomplete
and
does
not
include
comments,
such
as
the
comments
made
by
a
small
businessman
who
said
that
this
large-scale
development,
which
would
on
most
certainly
cause
conditions
qualifying
for
a
nuisance
case
in
Illinois
towards.
AG
Joining
property
owners.
His
statement
was,
after
over
a
year
and
a
half
to
carrying
up
the
streets
by
the
city
for
another
project.
Another
18
months
to
tear
up
for
a
two
hundred
and
eighty
six
unit.
Development
time
is
up
where
only
ninety
three
units
should
go
would
almost
certainly
put
a
number
of
small
businessman.
AH
Today,
at
risky
33-year
resident
I
haven't
been
involved
in
this
issue.
Much
but
I
will
state
I
was
at
the
meeting.
We've
talked
about
planning.
There
is
no
plan
here
in
Evanston
over
the
Tribune
wrote
an
article
title
10
15
years
ago
about
planning
here,
I,
responded
and
said:
the
city
needs
a
permit
design.
They
actually
published
my
comments
in
the
magazine
and
the
next
issue.
I
had
to
find
it
the
bottom
line.
Is
you
had
a
meeting
at
6
o'clock?
No
one
attended
about
planning.
There
is
no
plan
in
the
downtown.
AH
The
city
needs
to
build
a
model,
have
models
built
in
3d
of
the
downtown
looking
at
the
different
densities
and
what
would
be
built
here
not
just
this
project,
but
other
projects,
just
like
the
budget
is
messed
up.
The
planning
process
is
messed
up.
I,
don't
believe
you
have
people
in
the
department
that
have
any
leadership
to
lead
it
and
it's
a
mess
here.
You
need
to
take
control
again
of
something:
that's
a
mess.
AI
Hello,
my
name
is
sue
Hulbert
and
I
have
more
questions
than
answers.
I'm,
not
an
expert
at
all.
It
just
seems
to
me
that
we
have
lots
of
development
in
Evanston
and
then
we
have
lots
of
empty
spaces
and
we
get
more
and
more
little
shops
downtown
dot
with
no,
no
one
in
them,
empty,
storefronts
and
so
forth.
AI
I,
don't
understand
why
we
get
more
density,
but
it
leads
to
less
downtown
traffic
and
how,
if
you're,
going
to
get
more
density,
you're
going
to
have
more
traffic
and
that's
going
to
help
everybody
I,
don't
understand
why
this
building
needs
to
be
so
big
and
out
of
scale
and
I.
Don't
understand
why.
AI
AJ
Name
is
Barbara
white
and
I
live
within
a
thousand
feet
of
this.
Building
going
up
and
I
came
to
have
a
son
in
1961
and
I've,
been
here
about
55
years
I've
seen
many
changes,
many
changes
in
those
years
and
keep
the
city
vibrant,
growing
and
I
really
feel
a
personal
pride
in
living
in
Evanston.
I
always
have,
but
I
really
I
really
am
concerned.
I
have
so
many
concerns
about
this
building
or
about
all
the
developments
coming
forward.
AJ
If
the
zoning
laws
are
allowed
to
be
overridden,
it
just
seems,
like
there'll,
be
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
continuing
overrides.
It
was
set
a
precedent,
so
I'm
asking
this
council
to
slow
this
train
down
in
order
to
have
time
to
assess
more
clearly
what
could
lie
ahead
for
Evanston's
long
term.
Future
I
think
the
brakes
should
be
applied.
There
are
tempting
carrots
presented
by
the
developers
to
fill
our
spaces
and
add
to
our
coffers
and
they're.
Being
there
quick
fixes,
perhaps.
G
AJ
AJ
L
My
name
is
Brooke
Harper
I'm,
a
recent
transplant
to
Evanston,
like
some
of
the
other
people,
who've
spoken,
and
some
of
the
things
that
I
have
loved
on
coming
to
Evanston
are
the
wildlife,
the
trees,
the
wonderful
air
quality
in
Evanston
in
the
beautiful
architecture
and,
while
I
support
sustainable
development
in
downtown.
To
the
extent
that
this
plan
is
going
to
be
reconsidered,
or
there
are
going
to
be
questions
asked
about
it.
I
think
that
the
council
should
question
the
extent
of
parking,
a
number
of
cars
that
are
being
added
to
the
downtown
core.
L
That's
near
train
stations,
this
building
to
the
extent
that
it
goes
in,
will
be
right
on
top
of
to
CTA
Purple
Line
stations
close
to
the
Davis
metro,
stop
and
the
more
safe
the
city
could
do
a
lot
to
reduce
congestion
in
the
downtown
core
by
reducing
the
number
of
parking
spaces
that
are
being
added
to
this
building
and
encourage
trends
that
are
already
taking
place
in
Evanston,
where
people
come
to
the
downtown
want
to
have
a
walkable
community
and
not
traffic
congestion
and
noise.
Thank
you.
AL
Gotta
go
fast
right.
I'm
a
39
year
Evanston
resident
I
was
a
retailer
on
Davis
Street
for
40
years,
I've
been
in
business
Evanston
for
46
years,
I'm
in
favor
of
the
city's
relief
from
what
currently
seems
a
dead-end
situation
for
Tommy
and
Evans,
and
the
adjacent
property
I'm
in
favor
of
housing
that
will
allow
15,
or
so
families
or
individuals,
an
opportunity
to
stay
in
Evanston
I'm
in
favor
of
millions
of
dollars
in
property,
tax
and
fees
to
our
city,
I'm
in
favor
of
the
Elven
project.
AL
There's
been
discussion
here
about
gentrification
our
home,
visible
from
this
window
has
in
39
years
we
have
lived
here
gone
from
the
largest
house
within
a
block
in
every
direction
to
a
house
of
average
or
smaller
size.
The
newest
house
is
within
our
immediate
neighborhood.
Formerly
mixed
grace
area
have
almost
no
people
of
color
and
single-family
homes
are
now
sold
for
over
a
million
and
a
half
dollars
to
those
looking
to
preserve
a
storybook
Evanston.
We
need
to
realize
that
the
changes
you
fear
are
in
our
neighborhoods
and
not
in
our
downtown
development.
Thank
you.
AL
AM
Of
the
committee,
my
name
is
Irv.
Chuckle
I've
been
a
resident
everson
for
more
than
40
years.
There
seems
to
be
a
concern
that
we
maintain
a
reputation
of
being
friendly
to
developers
this
al.
This
Albion
development
proves
that
we
have
that
reputation
or
they
wouldn't
ask
for
such
extreme
variances.
AM
If
albion
offers
changes
now,
we
would
like
some
time
to
review
those
changes
and
postpone
any
kind
of
a
vote.
If
there
are
changes,
I
noticed
this
white
model.
Here,
that's
probably
there
to
compare
the
proposed
building
each
other
downtown
buildings.
Ten
versus
like
it
misses
the
point.
We
have
to
look
at
that
building
in
the
location
that
is
designed
for
not
compared
to
other
downtown
buildings.
This
is
supposed
to
be
a
transitional
area.
Time.
G
AN
Kruger
for
the
record,
I
object
to
one-minute
comment
on
this.
90
million
dollar
building
I've
heard
a
lot
recently
about
FOIA
victims,
so
I
want
to
talk
about
FOIA
victims
and
what
I
want
to
talk
about
is
1,600
people
that
signed
a
petition
against
this
development
that
I
filed
a
FOIA
on
behalf
of
my
client
on
September
13th,
the
city
held
it
for
a
week
and
then
the
law
department
summarily
denied
our
FOIA
in
its
entirety.
AN
We
resubmitted
a
second
at
six
six,
thirty
six
weeks,
it's
a
minute,
a
second
streamline
FOIA
containing
search
firms
that
was
held
by
a
weak
summarily
denied
from
the
city.
After
that
we
again,
we
reduce
it
for
you
by
two
thirds
and
again
today
we
were
summarily
denied
by
the
city.
So
there's
sixteen
hundred
people
that
want
information.
We
will
get
the
information
whether
we
get
in
this
form
or
we
get
in
another
form.
That
will
be
fine,
but
there's
nothing
hid
that
will
not
be
uncovered.
Think
that's
in
a
book
somewhere.
So
we.
AN
AO
My
name
is
dawn
Charlaine,
Berger
I
live
at
1864,
Sherman
I'm,
not
here
to
speak
for
or
against
the
allbeing
project.
What
I
am
concerned
about
is
an
overall
project
on
zoning
and
height
here
in
Evanston.
This
is
something
I
really
think
that
the
City
Council
needs
to
look
at
I
mean
I
Evanston
is
it's
a
city
within
itself,
although
it
adjoins
the
city
of
Chicago,
it's
not
a
bedroom
community,
like
will
matter
Winnetka.
AO
AP
Good
evening,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
me
to
speak,
my
name
is
Marilyn
Brewers
I'm,
a
resident
of
downtown
Evanston
and
a
resident
of
of
Evanston
for
over
42
years.
You're
talking
about
my
neighborhood
I
live
at
Sherman
and
Davis,
and
people
I,
don't
think.
I
have
heard
one
people.
One
person
here
speak
about
the
residents
of
downtown
Evanston
as
a
neighborhood.
AP
This
is
my
place.
This
is
where
I
shop
I
go
to
the
dentist,
the
dry
cleaners
and
all
of
the
food
establishments.
I
want
more
density.
I
want
all
of
those
small
stores
to
stay
exactly
where
they
are
and
to
grow.
I've
been
a
member
of
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
I've
had
several
businesses
of
brick
and
mortar
stores
in
Evanston
I'm,
a
co-founder
of
the
mainstream
Merchants
Association
and
I've
also
been
businesswoman
of
the
year
for
North
Shore
in
1995.
I,
basically
have
loved
Evanston
I
want
to
stay
here.
I
want
everything
to
thrive.
AP
AQ
Good
evening,
I'm
Wendy
Pollak
I
live
at
1410,
Oak
Avenue,
it's
about
three
and
a
half
blocks
away
from
this
proposed
development
and
I'm
joining
those
who
are
strongly
opposed
to
it.
I
I
want
to
say
I'm,
not
at
all,
opposed
to
density.
In
urban
settings.
I've
lived
in
cities,
my
entire
life,
I,
walk,
I,
take
my
bike
and
yeah.
We
need
density
downtown,
it's
good
for
the
environment,
it's
it's
makes
for
vibrant
downtown's,
but
this
is
just
too
big.
It's
out
of
scale.
AQ
It's
inhuman
I
have
to
say
it's
really
ugly
too
I
just
I
have
to
say
that
I
mean
I,
don't
want
it
in
my
name,
but
aside
from
that
it
and
the
process
has
been
really
questionable.
If
we
have
a
plan,
as
others
have
mentioned,
how
did
we
end
up
here
with
something
that
is
so
out
of
keeping
with
a
plan,
so
I
think
that
that
also
really
needs
serious
consideration.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
AR
Hi,
my
name
is
Robert
Strom
I'm,
the
owner
and
operator
of
Prairie
moon
restaurant
in
downtown
Evanston.
This
development
directly
affects
us
and
I
want
to
come
out
and
tell
everybody
with
without
question.
We
are
in
favor
of
this
development.
We
have
been
in
a
situation
in
our
in
our
space
for
some
time
now,
directly
adjacent
to
two
empty
Lots,
which
will
need
development.
AR
Albion,
develop
lien,
has
come
to
us
and
came
to
us
in
July
of
last
year,
along
with
the
Goldberg
family,
and
we
have
worked
out
a
scenario
in
which
we
will
come
back
into
the
base.
Development
and
I
guarantee
everybody
in
Evanston
that
we
will
be
part
of
this
community.
We
will
make
sure
that
the
base
level
that
Prairie
moons
identity
will
will
maintain.
We
will
be
your
local,
we
always
have
been.
We
will
continue
to
be
so
I've
lived
here.
AR
AS
AS
Elmwood
is:
is
the
kind
of
currently
I've
been
here
20
years,
the
alternative
parking
space
where
the
businesses
on
Sherman
and
Greenwood
and
Lake
so
I
have
I,
have
major
concerns
about
the
the
relative
lack
of
parking
that
that
this
building
is
proposing
and
have
a
hard
time.
Imagining
the
that,
with
that
many
units,
there
won't
be
an
overflow
parking
on
our
street.
AS
The
second
concern
I
have
about
this
project
is,
has
been
referenced
earlier
and
that's
that
the
ad
hoc
nature
of
building
where
there
is
or
was,
an
existing
plan,
which
alderman
Wilson
has
pointed
out,
has
not
been
adopted
officially,
but
did
have
the
the
what
I
think
is
a
very
useful
notion
of
transition
from
neighborhood
like
mine,
which
is
definitely
neighborhood
and
into
more
dense
urban
center.
Thank.
A
AT
Good
evening
my
name
is
Adam
chess
I'm,
a
resident
of
the
Third
Ward
and
I've
been
pretty
much
a
lifelong
resident
of
Evanston
I
opposed
the
Albion
development.
I
come
to
this
with
a
very
open
mind
and
I'm
for
thoughtful
development
in
Evanston.
But
when
the
former
chair
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals,
says
quote,
I
cannot
recall
any
building
that
was
as
inappropriate
for
the
site
proposed
as
this
development
that
speaks
volumes
to
me.
The
building
seems
totally
out
of
scale
for
this
human
scale.
AT
Block
I,
just
don't
think
it's
a
thoughtful
development
for
this
part
of
Evanston
I'm
also
concerned
about
too
many
high-end
luxury
rentals
and
what
it
does
for
haven't
since
affordability
and
I.
Just
think
that
this
development
threatens
the
character
of
a
very
unique
neighborhood
and
part
of
that
town.
Evanston.
So
I
heard
you
to
be
thoughtful
about
this
and
ultimately
I
oppose
that
development.
Thank.
AU
A
A
D
You
good
evening,
I'm
Donna,
Pugh
I'm,
a
partner
in
the
law
firm,
a
Foley
and
Lardner
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
Albion
I
you're
gonna
hear
a
little
more
about
this,
but
I
just
wanted
to
emphasize
the
number
of
changes
that
have
been
made,
all
less
relief.
That
Andrew
will
walk
you
through,
but
there's
been
numerous
reductions
in
height
units
additional
parking
and
I
really
do
want
you
to
know
that
how
much
effort
has
gone
into
that
now.
I
just
again
wanted
to
note
that
the
staff
supports
it.
The
Planning
Commission
supports
it.
D
D
AU
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
your
service.
As
an
alderman
I
know,
you
know,
as
we
sit
and
listen
everyone's
concerns.
Its
and
I've
heard
you
guys
go
pretty
late
in
the
night,
so
you
know
I
know
we
appreciate
it
just
a
little
bit
about
us.
My
name
is
Jason
Kidd
I'm,
president
Albion,
we
were
Chicago
based
real
estate
company.
All
we
do
is
apartments.
We
don't
do
condos,
we
don't
do
senior
housing,
we
don't
do
student
housing.
Also,
we
do
is
his
apartments.
AU
We
are
a
part
of
village
green.
We
are
sister
companies,
village
green
manages
about
38,000
units
across
the
United
States,
but
the
vast
majority
of
them
are
located
right
here
in
the
Midwest
and
including
we
manage
about
7500
you
it's
here
in
the
Chicagoland
area
and
then
a
little
bit
about
us.
So
we're
wholly
owned
by
a
company
called
Patriot
capital
they're
located
in
Dallas.
They
are
a
subsidiary
of
a
company
called
Salmons
enterprises.
Salmons
is
a
is
a
very
large
company
with
assets
approaching
eighty
six
billion
dollars.
AV
AV
Right
so
you're
gonna,
see
me
here
and
I
might
handed
off
to
Paul
elisandra
architect,
I'm,
going
to
come
back
to
finish
off
what
I'm
gonna
do
here.
Just
react:
lament
you
at
the
site.
I
know
you're
already
familiar
with
it,
but
Tommy
Nevins
is
to
the
far
south
part
of
the
site.
The
vacant
lot
was
the
former
funeral
home
Prairie
moon
extends
its
way
north
there's
a
month-to-month
lease
with
the
Pilates
studio
and
the
vacant
retail
in
office
throughout
the
rest
of
the
of
the
site.
AV
So
this
next
slide
here
shows
you
a
transitional
olive
elevation
map
and
what
we're
trying
to
show
you
here
is
from
Dempster
Street
to
Church
Street.
What
we're
trying
to
explain
is
what
we're
looking
at
in
terms
of
mass
as
you
get
up
into
the
downtown
district.
Our
building
is
located
in
the
d4
downtown
district.
It
is
a
downtown
district,
and
what
you
can
see
here
is
that
right
in
front
of
us
is
the
Holiday
Inn,
which
is
145
feet
in
height.
AV
The
top
of
our
roof
line
is
at
165
feet
in
height
and
then,
as
you
go
north
to
the
rotary
building,
that's
240
feet
in
height,
and
it's
also
demonstrated
by
the
model.
That's
shown
there
in
front
of
you,
so
the
building
itself
we
feel,
is
transit
in
nature
as
you
as
you
go
up
to
the
downtown
district
as
it's
located
in
what
happened
in
the
downtown
district.
AV
The
next
slide
here
walks
through
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
understand,
but
this
walks
through
what
is
actually
in
the
anticipation
of
the
downtown
d4
district
today.
So
the
anticipation
allows
a
building
of
185
feet
in
height
now,
that's
inclusive
of
40,
feet
of
parking
garage,
so
parking
garage
and
today
zoning
law
is,
is
allowed
to
be
extracted
out
of
the
height
of
that
building.
So
the
building
technically
could
be
145
feet
of
residential
plus
40
feet
of
parking
that
allows
for
185
feet.
AV
AV
So
where
have
we
gone
so
we
started
off
in
a
neighborhood
group
meeting
and
in
early
May
you
know
we
started
off
with
a
building
that
was
an
extra
storey,
298
feet,
I'm,
sorry
298
units
and
it
now
has
been
reduced
into
the
PD
submittal
and
then,
as
of
today,
down
to
286
units,
the
the
building
height
itself
has
been
reduced
by
16
feet.
We
continue
to
make
modifications
as
we
started
the
project
hearing
the
concerns
of
the
neighbors
and
the
size
of
the
city
we
reduced.
AV
The
scale
of
the
FA
are
naturally
by
reducing
some
of
the
unit's
out
of
the
building
and
we've
increased
parking,
and
we
have
followed
and
watched
closely
with
the
parking
ordinance
that
has
been
moving
its
way
along
the
City
Council
and
we
think
we're.
We
are
pretty
close
to
that
today.
What
we
are
still
asking
for
some
relief.
AV
So
on
the
design
related
revisions
that
we've
had
so
far
today,
you
know
they've
been
really
great
in
nature.
They've
allowed
us
the
opportunity
to
have
these
neighborhood
groups,
so
we
had
the
neighborhood
group
meeting
at
Prairie
moon.
It
was
a
very
packed
room.
We
got
to
hear
a
lot
of
feedback.
We've
then
continued
down
having
some
isolated
conversations
with
some
local
stakeholders,
and
then
we
went
to
Chu
dapper
meetings
and
we've
been
through
two
Planning
Commission
meetings.
AV
So,
along
the
way,
we've
heard
a
lot
of
comments
and
I've
tried
to
incorporate
as
much
feedback
as
I.
Could
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
originally
working
on
the
elevation
itself
of
Sherman
Avenue
modernizing
the
building
it
looked
like?
It
was
more
of
a
historic
building
and
nature
as
the
way
we
came
out
and
we
decided
with
the
help
of
staff
and
the
neighbors
did
make
it
a
little
bit
more
modern,
a
big
issue
from
the
beginning,
as
we
were
looking
to
park,
the
building
off
Sherman,
we
thought
it
was.
AV
The
best
benefit
is
to
match
where
the
Holiday
Inns
parking,
garage,
ingress
and
egress
was
there's
a
current
curb
cut
at
Prairie
moon
already
today,
keeping
that
in
place-
and
we
listened
to
the
neighbors
and
staff,
and
they
said
no,
that's
not
the
right
thing
to
do.
It
should
be
in
the
alley,
but
now
the
alley
needs
to
get
widened.
So
we
took
that
upon
ourselves
to
work
with
Council
several
different
councils.
Is
we
couldn't
figure
out
what
the
actual
true
owner
of
that
alley
is?
AV
So
it's
now
not
worried
about
two
ways
of
traffic
inclusive
and
there
was
also
widening
of
the
alley
to
allow
multiple
vehicles
to
go
by
and
then
we
also
heard
a
lot
about
bird
strike
and
we've
we've
been
working
really
hard
with
our
sustainability
and
lead
consultants
to
make
sure
that
we
can
comply
with
as
much
of
the
leap
55
practices
we
can
to
eliminate
bird
strikes
within
the
bill
place
without
the
building.
Looking
like
a
prison.
AV
So
then,
here's
where
we're
at
today,
with
the
with
the
rendering
of
the
Northeast
and
as
you
can
see,
were
bordered
to
the
west
by
both
train
lines
were
bordered
to
the
east
by
the
Holiday.
Inn
were
bordered
to
the
mountain
that
led
to
the
north
by
the
downtown
district,
and
you
know
to
the
south
of
us
as
a
park.
AV
Harper
Park
I
call
it
it's
the
cue
calm
small
park
and
what
we
decided
to
do
here
was
to
build
our
own
buffer
park
off
of
Harper
Park,
so
that
the
density
and
the
mass
didn't
feel
like
it
was
coming
all
the
way
to
this
to
the
streets,
and
that
Park
is
about
4,000
square
feet
in
nature.
Only
up
to
about
25%
of
it
will
be
able
to
be
used
by
the
restaurants.
R
Thank
you,
I'm
Paul
sander,
with
hearts
when
in
Concord
architecture.
Thank
you
board
members
for
allowing
us
to
speak
this
evening.
Heart
Cernan
placard
is
a
50-person
firm
located
in
the
West
Loop
we've
been
around
since
1987,
and
we
work
primarily
in
urban
infill
sites.
New
construction,
mixed
used,
rehab
specializing
in
housing
of
all
types.
R
Just
some
bullet
points
on
the
building,
I
won't
read
them
for
you.
These
are
the
things
that
some
of
them
are
the
comments
that
andrew
has
already
made
one
of
the
things
that
had
come
up
a
couple
of
minutes
ago
with
a
question
about
loading
docks.
We
are
providing
off
alley
loading
docks
so
that
the
alley
is
never
blocked
with
our
loading
traffic.
R
There
we
go.
Our
building
is
set
back,
40
feet
off
of
Lake
Street
and
aligns
with
the
Holiday
Inn
Tower.
Our
public
park
at
the
front
is
a
combination
of
public
park.
25%
maximum
will
be
used
by
the
restaurant
that
is
located
at
the
quarter.
That'll
speed
out
onto
the
sidewalk,
the
rest
is
reserved
for
public
space.
R
Pulling
this
building
back
opens
up
these
corner
views
and
allows
a
safer
transition
on
to
Sherman
Avenue,
and
our
building
then
starts
tat,
this
40-foot
line
and
then
continues
back
to
the
back
of
the
property
setting
back
as
it
moves
north,
achieving
a
43
foot
setback
at
the
northern
end.
So
this
setback
is
about
250
feet
of
the
length
of
the
building.
R
R
Our
safe
plan,
our
lobby,
is
in
the
middle.
Our
lobby,
then,
is
directly
between
the
two
retail
outlets.
These
two
retail
outlets
will
also
open
up
into
the
lobby.
One
of
the
characteristics
of
an
Albion
building
is
that
the
lobbies
are
large
and
open
and
public
spaces,
so
that
somebody
who
wants
to
come
and
grab
a
bite
here
but
doesn't
want
to
sit
in
the
restaurant
for
three
hours
can
come
into
our
lobby
and
use
the
lobby
as
a
place
to
sit
down
do
some
work.
R
We
also
have
an
additional
retail
spot
at
the
North
parking
at
the
back,
which
is
all
accessed
off
of
the
alley.
The
alley
is
14
feet
wide,
which
allows
for
two
cars
to
pass
and
then
for
our
loading,
docks
to
be
recessed
from
that
through
alley
and
pulled
completely
off
the
alley
in
order
to
keep
the
alley
open
in
case
of
any
emergency
vehicles
that
need
to
walk
through,
as
I
said
here
is
the
park
at
the
front
end
in
our
40
foot
setback
and
a
strip
that
is
dedicated
to
the
restaurant.
R
This
is
a
drawing
of
the
fourth-floor,
which
shows
our
setback
floor.
Our
setback
floor
is
surrounded
by
green
planted
landscape.
These
units
walk
directly
out
to
a
private
deck,
as
well
as
a
public
debt
that
is
located
at
the
southern
end,
as
well
as
our
amenity
and
fitness
area.
We're
also
providing
an
indoor
and
outdoor
dog
run
on
this
level
against
the
tracks
to
keep
noise
down
from
the
street.
R
This
shows
our
typical
floor
and
our
traditional
market
mix
to
serve
all
levels
of
housing
requirements.
We
have
about
33%
studios
that
are
in
the
just
under
500
square
feet,
which
is
a
typical
studio
size
in
this
market,
we're
about
50
percent
convertibles
in
one
bedrooms
that
are
averaging
somewhere
around
700
square
feet
and
then
the
rest
are
in
2
and
3
bedrooms.
R
All
of
our
units
are
fully
equipped
with
appliances,
full-size
appliances,
washers
and
dryers
dishwashers,
disposals,
microwaves,
I
think
there
was
a
comment
again
really
I'm
concerned
about
the
size
of
these
units.
That'd
be
too
small,
but
we're
providing
basically
full-size
appliances
for
everyone.
You.
R
And
then
our
top
roof
deck
amenity,
in
addition
to
the
deck
demented
amenity,
that's
facing
south.
This
is
also
a
co-op
sing
space.
So
anyone
who
lives
in
this
building
who
works
from
home
can
come
up
to
this
amenity
level
and
use
this
as
coefficience
pace,
so
they
can
get
out
of
their
apartment
if
they
want
to
and
work
together
community
with
other
people
with
that,
I
am
going
to
turn
this
over
to
Ted
Wolfe,
our
landscape,
architect.
AW
Want
to
talk
first
about
the
pocket
park,
we're
very
excited
by
this
public
open
space
at
the
south
end
of
the
development
it's
about
2700
square
feet.
We
think
we've
designed
a
park
which
well
it
is
a
park
which
will
be
public
we've
designed
it
to
be
permeable,
so
it
allows
people
to
walk
in
and
to
walk
through.
AW
So
we
think
the
through
traffic
activates
and
animates
that
it
will
be
shared
with
about
560
or
so
square
feet
of
designated
commercial
seating
for
the
restaurant
that
we
think
that
too
will
animate
the
park
and
provide
a
stakeholder
there,
which
makes
it
a
safer
and
and
more
busy
and
more
attractive
space.
It's
green
and
we've
made
a
commitment
to
a
sculpture
or
art
piece
in
the
park
as
well.
AW
I
want
to
talk
briefly,
then
about
the
public
streetscape
on
Sherman
Avenue
we've
got
a
nine
foot,
six
sidewalk
I
know
the
sidewalk
width
is
a
concern
and
Evans
said
on
some
projects:
nine
foot
six
for
point
of
reference
has
been:
maybe
a
foot
less
than
Michigan
Avenue
in
Chicago,
it's
an
adequate
sidewalk.
It's
a
generous
sidewalk
it'll
accommodate
all
the
pedestrian
circulation.
The
very
short
sidewalk
on
the
south
end
is
ten
feet
wide.
AW
More
than
enough
we're
meeting
the
evidence,
then
the
streetscape
standards
with
trees
and
planters,
with
a
little
concrete,
curb
to
keep
the
salt
out
then
the
brick
pavers
it
goes
around
it.
So
we
think
this
is
or
completely
consistent
with
what
your
standards
aren't
going
to
be
an
attractive,
functional,
streetscape.
AV
So
the
last
few
slides
here
we
want
to
talk
about
are
the
public
benefits
and
what's
going
on
the
affordability
initiatives
in
in
the
impacts,
you
know
from
an
affordability
initiative
stamp
standpoint
when
we
started
this
process.
The
idea
of
the
project-
and
it
was
correlated
to
us-
was
the
fee
in
lieu
of
that
was
the
way
to
take
the
position
of
the
site.
You
know
something
that
happens.
Tim
was
looking
to
do.
AV
AV
Something
else
there,
you
know
what
I
think
we're
gonna
look
to
do
is
is
waiting
moving
fees.
So
what
we're
gonna
do
is
the
top
10
employers
of
Evanston.
We
want
people
from
Evanston
to
live
in
this
community,
we're
not
necessarily
saying
we're
gonna
go
pull
all
these
Chicago
residents
and
bring
them
here.
We
want
a
place
where
Evan
stone,
Ian's
can
call
home
as
well.
By
doing
that,
we're
going
to
be
working
with
the
top
ten
employers
of
Evanston
and
we're
going
to
waive
all
the
move
in
fees.
AV
We're
gonna
create
initiatives
to
try
to
get
them
to
understand
why
they
could
live
here.
What
we
can
do
to
help
them
try
to
bring
the
idea
of
you
can
live
here.
You
can
stay
here.
Some
of
the
other
site
initiatives
that
we're
looking
to
do
the
on-site
parking
pocket
park,
we're
contributing
money
to
a
landscape
general
landscaping
fund
where
that
money
could
be
directed
by
you
as
the
councilmembers
to
improve
public
parks.
AV
We're
looking
to
take
the
Harper
Park
maintenance
program
off
of
your
rolls,
it's
easier
for
us
to
maintain
it
we're
already
out
there
we're
already
doing
the
cleanup
of
the
streets
and
sidewalks
and
streets
every
day
with
our
maintenance
team.
We
will
enter
into
some
form
of
a
landscaping
contract
and
we'll
have
our
team
making
sure
that
it's
pruned
it's
cleaned
in
it's
in
an
orderly
fashion.
Mr
Ewell.
Can
you
start
to
wrap
it
up?
Absolutely
we'll
have
a
public
art
contribution.
AV
AV
Ross
restoration,
we're
committed
to
fully
working
with
the
high
school
levántense
Evanston
Township
High
School.
We've
already
started
conversations
with
Shelby
gates
in
the
geometry
and
construction
class.
We're
going
to
be
working
with
her
in
order
to
teach
classes
in
the
classroom,
bring
the
students
to
an
actual
job
site
and
allow
them
to
see
the
opportunities
of
what
it's
like
in
construction
and
then
our
finally,
our
impact
on
the
municipal
services.
You
know:
we've
had
this
confirmed
from
the
staff
and
from
third
party
consultants
that
we
are
no
impact
to
Public
Works.
AV
We
will
not
be
an
impact
for
the
fire
department.
We
are
a
fully
sprinkled
building
with
fire
command
center.
We
will
not
be
a
drain
on
the
police
department,
as
we've
done
an
investigation
and
how
many
police
calls
are
already
going
on
to
the
site.
We
know
that
will
be
a
reduction
and
also
we
will
be
a
benefit
to
the
to
the
school
districts,
as
SP
Friedman
has
verified
that
only
15
or
less
students
will
be
attending
schools
from
our
project.
I
mean
that
could
include
private
school
as
well.
AV
AV
We
are
not
asking
for
a
TIF,
we
are
not
asking
for
a
tax
abatement.
We
are
taking
on
this
full
liability
ourselves.
It's
something
a
developer
hasn't
been
able
to
do
this
stand
up
in
front
of
a
council
and
say
we
don't
want
any
of
this
and
by
the
way
we
also
want
to
be
part
of
the
affordable
housing
initiative
on
our
own.
We
haven't
been
able
to
do
that
in
the
past.
AV
It's
our
first
time
doing
it
and
are
very
excited
for
it,
and
I
just
want
you
guys
to
know
that
we
are
committed
to
have
instant
or
long-term
holders
we're
going
to
be
here
for
the
long
haul.
We
want
to
be
part
of
the
fabric
of
Evanson
I.
Think
what
we're
seeing
today
is
why
we
want
to
be
here
the
conversation
on
both
sides
of
the
arguments.
It's
really
important
to
us
and
we're
committed
to
to
making
sure
we
hire
Evan
Stoney
ins
and
we're
committed
to
the
cause
to
help
with
anything.
AK
Okay,
good
evening,
my
name
is
Claire
Kelley
and
I'm.
I've
lived
in
Evanston
for
over
45
years,
we're
here
this
evening,
representing
over
1,900
1,800
people
who've
signed
on
to
a
petition
against
the
Albion
proposal
and
we're
here
this
evening,
because
we,
along
with
many
ovens
and
residents
who
care
tremendously
about
our
city,
have
very
very
serious
concerns
about
this
proposed
texas-based
salmon's
Albion
development.
We
appreciate
being
allocated
time
this
evening
to
present
and
discuss
a
few
of
the
very,
very
serious
issues
with
this
development.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
allocating
us
this
time.
AK
As
you're
all
aware,
many
of
in
Stoney
ins
have
given
up
countless
hours
of
time
to
study
and
expose
important
aspects
of
the
Albion
development,
and
we
found
that
this
development
would
undermine
our
sense
of
community
undermine
fairness
and
housing
for
our
residents
and
would
negatively
impact
the
aesthetic
appeal
of
our
downtown.
Some
of
our
concerns
involve
zoning
issues
and
variances
fair
housing
and
an
already
segregated
Evanston.
This
would
only
exacerbate
segregation.
AK
Environmental
lead
concerns,
negative
impact
on
Evanston's
economy,
services
and
taxes,
the
negative
impact
of
the
quality
of
living
income
incompatibility
with
the
design
and
the
scale
with
regard
to
our
Evanston
community.
And
finally,
we
also
have
serious
concerns
about
the
process
by
which
city
staff
and
the
plan
commission
have
recommended
this
project
and
we
feel
the
lack
of
commitment
to
fully
vet
a
project
of
such
scale
requiring
so
many
variances.
Several
Evanston
members,
members
of
the
Evanston
community
are
here
to
address
some
of
these
specific
aspects.
AK
Unfortunately,
one
of
our
experts
at
University
of
Chicago
Argonne
lab
economist
Tim
Allison,
can't
be
here
this
evening,
but
he
would
be
happy
to
meet
with
you
all
to
discuss
the
negative
economic
fallout,
the
impact
on
our
city.
Should
we
proceed
with
the
Albion
project,
I'd
like
to
start
by
presenting
introducing
Seth
Weinberger
he's
the
former
chair
of
the
oven,
stand
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals.
He
will
address
some
of
these
zoning
issues.
Thank
you,
sir.
AX
Thank
you,
I'm
Seth,
Weinberger
I
was
in
little
retirement
from
zoning
issues
until
this
project
was
introduced
and
got
as
far
as
it
did.
I
appreciate
that
you've
read
the
entire
record,
so
I
really
just
want
to
focus
on
three
slides
that
are
in
the
record.
This
is
the
first.
It
is
from
page
7.
It
is
just
trying
to
show
the
impact
of
the
ziggurat
setback.
That's
a
technical
term.
It
is
really
the
tower
setback
portion
in
any
of
our
major
streets
in
downtown
Evanston.
AX
It
is
required
above
40
feet
to
setback
an
additional
40
feet
from
the
sidewalk
in
order
to
create
a
sense
of
a
livable
scale
and
a
walkable
scale,
and
this
is
all
of
our
streets.
It's
been
reflected
in
our
zoning
ordinance
for
years
for
decades.
It's
reflected
in
our
downtown
plan.
All
of
our
plans,
if
you,
if
you
look
at
the
property
from
the
north
end
of
it,
which
is
the
right
side,
it
is
approximately
40
feet
away.
They
they.
AX
They
were
coming
compliance
with
that
requirement,
but
only
to
that
very
small
portion
to
the
right
as
it
has
this
s-curve.
It
moves
closer
and
closer
to
the
sidewalk
until
it
is
right
on
the
sidewalk.
So
it
is
completely
in
non-compliance
for
for
at
least
half
of
it,
if
not
80%,
of
the
building
and
it's
in
non-compliance
in
the
worst
spot
right,
because
it's
in
the
south
part
of
the
of
the
property
that
it's
non-compliant
right
across
from
the
street
of
the
Holiday
Inn,
which
is
also
right
on
the
sidewalk.
AX
So
the
second
of
the
three
slides
is
is
one
that
you've
seen
before
done
by
the
developer.
It
they're
as
of
right
design,
so
first
I,
don't
believe
it
is.
It
is
accurate
because
it
should
only
it
should
be
four
stories
smaller
than
that
they
are
including
as
of
right,
that
developers
allowance
under
planned
development,
but
that's
not
as
of
right.
That's
a
discretionary
allowance.
So
if
they
came
as
of
right,
it
would
actually
be
shorter
than
this.
AX
But
what's
more
of
a
salient
is
look
how
narrow
this
building
is
it's
it's
in
order
for
them
to
achieve
that,
I'm,
not
even
sure
they
could
put
units
and
a
corridor
on
this,
but
I
can
guarantee
you
they
could
not.
They
would
not
build
anything
like
this
if
they
had
to
do
it
as
of
right.
This
really
speaks
in
and
of
itself
of
just
how
inappropriate
it
is
to
put
a
tower
on
the
south
side
of
this
block
in
over.
What's
now
Nevins,
when
it's
so
narrow
right
on
a
major
street.
AX
AX
This
is
one
of
the
four
blocks
and
you
know
keep
in
mind
that
when
we
go
to
the
37
story,
north
light,
that's
one
of
the
other
blocks
that
is
going
to
be
at
risk,
but
that
one
at
least
it
isn't
the
entire
block.
That's
at
risk
and
there's
a
substantial
public
benefit
that
it's
at
least
being
proposed
in
terms
of
a
theater
okay.
What
is
the
substantial
benefit
that
we
are
being
asked
to
get?
We
are
getting
for
a
really.
You
know,
destroying
one
of
the
last
four
blocks
of
character
in
Evanston.
AX
Is
it
the
marginal
tax
dollars?
Is
it
a
pocket
park?
Is
it
a
few
more
affordable
housing
units?
What
what?
How
cheaply
are
we
going
to
give
up
the
character
of
the
last
four
blocks,
and
so
that
gets
the
last
slide
you've
seen
this?
This
is
the
property.
I
just
want
to
focus
your
attention
on
the
right,
that's
the
character
of
Evanston
in
the
last
four
blocks,
and
then
I
want
you
to
look
at
this
building.
AX
It
is
a
hundred
percent,
more
mass
than
allowed
under
current
zoning.
If
you
take
into
account
that
cigarettes
that
back
it
is
fifty
percent
higher,
then,
as
of
right
really
as
of
right
under
current
zoning,
it
is
four
hundred
percent
higher
than
what
we
had
agreed
to
under
the
plan.
This
really
can't
be
negotiated.
It's
just
too
big.
AX
AY
Besides
being
so
grossly
oversized
and
dense,
this
proposal
at
the
ground
floor,
which
you
see
here,
really
is
plagued
by
two
fundamental
planning
mistakes,
which
will
condemn
the
retail
spaces
to
failure
and
cause
extreme
difficulty
for
every
delivery
on
the
whole
development,
though
this
site
has
over
300
feet
of
alley
frontage,
the
planning
mistake
blocks
off
every
surface,
possibility
to
the
retail
by
a
two-lane
highway,
which
every
service
must
cross
congested
through
one
single
door.
Additionally,
the
location
of
the
residential
lobby
and
elevators
severs
the
retail
spaces
into.
AY
AY
Every
single
service
element
must
cross
this
Highway,
and
the
only
access
to
the
alley
is
the
single
door.
The
plans
show
a
truck
space
actually
blocking
this
door.
The
tower
has
to
stair
exits
by
code.
One
is
allowed
to
go
through
the
lobby
and
out,
but
the
other
stair
has
to
be
a
pure
fire
barrier
and
nothing
else
can
be
in
that
corridor.
AY
AY
These
lines
are
all
the
paths
of
all
the
service
activity.
The
orange
is
loading
and
green
is
trash
and
blue
is
a
line
of
all
the
couches
and
mattresses
that
are
wandering
out
here
through
the
trucks
in
the
alley.
Every
single
thing
that
happens
on
this
site
crosses
that
little
spot.
This
is
the
collision
corner
where
a
car
coming
down
here
runs
into
a
couch
crossing
the
path
there,
the
trash
they
show
a
tiny
little
trash
room
here.
AY
AY
AY
And
this
retail
area
could
have
just
a
small
service
corridor,
that's
directly
related
to
loading
docks
off
the
alley,
trash
off
the
alley,
a
trash
room,
okay,
this
is
so
simple.
You
know
no
one's
out
in
the
alley.
No
one's
crossing
any
traffic,
the
the
tower
could
have
its
own
loading,
docks
and
and
trash.
You
know
without
any
any
complications
it
just.
It
should
be
so
simple:
there
should
be
retail
home
plus
they
could
have
retail
parking
with
a
easy
access
out
to
the
street.
There
could
be
retail
parking
in
the
basement.
AY
Okay,
this
this
is
the
second
and
third
floor
would
have
actually
no
change
to
what
they
have
and
just
as
the
conjecture,
the
building
could
have
you
know,
shape
with
with
color
corners
and
more
protection
for
the
solar
loading
just
to
wrap
up
my
mind,
yeah.
Yes,
this
is
a
fantastic
site,
it
should
be
developed,
but
this
is
really
the
wrong
project.
It's
really
poorly
planned.
That's
a
disaster
that
ground
floor
and.
AY
AZ
We
all
love
I'm
here
to
respectfully
let
you
know
that
I
oppose
this
project
for
everything
you've
heard
here,
the
scale
it
it's
by
right
should
not
be
developed,
so
I'm
gonna
give
back
my
time,
but
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know,
since
my
name
is
on
that
plan,
I
think
you
guys
should
honor
it
and
pay
attention
to
it.
When
you
vote
on
this
project,
Thanks.
BA
We
weren't
up
to
speed
when
Seth
went
here,
but
this
is
the
slide
regarding
the
downtown
planning.
Even
currently
the
d4
current
zoning
does
reference
ensure
consistency
with
a
plan
for
downtown
Evanston,
and
we
know
it's
a
guiding
document,
but
it's
still
very
much
in
in
the
City
Council.
It's
on
the
website.
It's
like
I
said
referenced
in
the
zoning,
so
it
is
something
that
should
be
considered
when
you
look
at
this
block.
BA
Now
we're
going
to
talk
about
really
looking
at
these
rental
projects
and
the
Wall
Street
Journal
title
really
says
it
all.
New
luxury
rental
projects
add
to
rent
squeeze
a
focus
by
builders
on
high-end.
Apartments,
helps
explain
why
rents
are
soaring
across
the
country,
and
you
know
we
see
that
we
have
so
many
luxury
high-rises
in
this
relatively
small
to
medium
sized
town
and
there's
a
good
chance
that
it
is
increasing
overall
rents
and
leading
to
decreasing
diversity.
BA
Albian
will
be
that
10th
luxury
rental
high-rise
in
Evanston
and
one
still
needs
to
be
built
and
Everson.
This
is
just
as
big
as
the
Albion.
We
have
fulfilled
this
type
of
housing
in
the
of
insane
market
eye.
We
understand
that
there
is
a
need
for
this
for
the
micro
units
for
the
luxury
units,
but
we
have
fully
fulfilled
it.
At
this
point,
like
I,
said
one's
coming,
what
was
just
built
on
Elmwood
Street.
We
are
adding
the
wrong
type
of
housing
right
now.
We
really
don't
need
any
more
micro
luxury
units.
BA
Mostly
this,
this
building
has
80%
450
square
foot
studio.
Maybe
they
were
bigger
than
that
also,
but
studios
in
one
bedrooms
is
kind
of
just
wrapping
up
what
I
just
said,
but
there's
a
list
of
all
the
high-rises
we
have
and
then
the
ones
on
the
docket,
possibly
Albion,
600
cf6.
Oh
one
day
this
1700s
Sherman,
so
we
already
have
1910
luxury
rental
units
from
these
high-rises.
You
can
just
look
up
and
see
our
entire
small
downtown.
It's
just
covered
with
these
ok
and
so.
D
BB
Good
evening,
the
Albion
project
and
the
local
boosters
using
affordable
housing
issue
as
a
smokescreen
for
their
real
intent,
which
they
stated
that
their
primary
target
market
is
to
attract
young
professionals.
As
they
said,
any
anyone
earning
fifty
one
thousand
or
more
could
live
in
the
least
expensive
units.
As
an
alder
person
has
stated
during
council
meetings
that
the
average
black
Everton
resident
earns
43004.
The
development
for
Alvin
said
that
any
black
person
who
earns
fifty
one
thousand
can
live
in
the
smaller
studio
units.
BB
This
is
eight
thousand
less
than
the
income
which
Angela
you
love.
A
Leone
resident
said
would
be
the
mineral
salary
to
qualify
for
the
least
expensive,
Albion
micro
luxury
unit
under
Sherman
Avenue.
If
the
average
Evanston
income
is
seventy
one
thousand
and
average
Chicago
Metro
income
is
seventy
nine
thousand
and
the
average
white
Evanston
income
is
eighty
six
thousand.
Then
it's
clear
that
the
target
population
of
Alban
residents
who
the
target
practice
is
for
the
alien
residence.
BB
The
Albion,
the
Albion
proposed
micro
units
are
too
small
for
families
not
accessible
to
for
the
disabled,
further
violating
the
fair
housing
ordinance,
the
city
of
evolution
should
not
approve
the
Albion
proposed
development
because
the
city
receives
federal,
Community,
Development,
Block,
Grants,
CDBG
funds,
the
1974
Community
Development
Act
states
that
the
city
accepting
CDBG
funds
must
affirmatively
further.
The
cause
of
integration,
Everson
has
not
situated
its
affordable
housing
units
in
accordance
with
the
act
in
the
approval
of
the
Albion
proposed
development
would
further
violate.
BB
The
federal
act
would
make
the
city
vulnerable
to
a
federal
action
for
the
continued
violation
of
those
performed
acts.
Developments
are
advancing
to
the
building
permit
stage
and
you
haven't
acknowledged
the
complaint.
Some
citizens
about
those
projects,
such
as
the
one
at
1305
1305
pitner,
where
a
permit
has
not
been
issued.
BB
Council
members
might
ask
city
staff
about
those
projects
to
determine
that
the
process
was
fair
and
thorough
prior
to
the
issuance
up
to
now,
as
to
zoning
fair
and
thorough,
before
you
advise
city
staff
to
each
departments,
it's
clear
that
the
city
is
to
blame
for
the
excess
of
blacks
due
to
taxes,
affordability
and
the
practice
of
placing
of
affordable
housing,
predominantly
in
minority
and
black
areas.
Thank.
D
A
A
BA
Okay,
well
I
was
going
to
talk
about
this,
but
we've
lost
43
percent
of
our
affordable
housing
units-
and
you
know
15
micro-units
is
really
not
a
solution
when
the
building,
when
another
luxury
building
might
make
this
core
problem.
Worse.
According
to
The
Wall
Street
Journal,
past
construction
cycles
as
new
apartment
buildings
come
online,
other
older
buildings
reduce
rate
or
they
didn't
raise
it,
but
that's
not
happening
in
part
to
a
supply
shortage,
but
I
don't
think
that
it
can.
BA
BA
G
BA
D
Yes,
we
weren't
sure
we
were
going
to
say
anything,
but
there
have
been
a
number
of
things
that
were
said
both
in
and
outside
of
this
room
that
are
proved
provably,
false
and
we've
attempted
to
correct
them,
and
yet
these
things
that
continue
to
be
set,
one
example
is
with
reference
just
now
about
a
1700
but
named
petition,
which
we've
identified
numerous
people
that
sign
the
petition
are
not
even
from
Evanston.
So
there
been
things
like
that
and
we're
not
sure
if
you
would
like
us
to
actually
rule
on
them
or
raise
them.
D
AV
You
I
typically
wouldn't
come
up
here
and
talk
in
a
rebuttal
form,
but
that's
out
of
line
is
out
of
line.
I've
never
said
that
I
wanted
to
be
known
for
the
record
that
there
was
never
a
comment
of
race.
Anyone
that
could
afford
to
live
in
this
building
will
be
able
to
live
in
this
building.
I
would
never
say
something
of
the
sort
and
I
just
want
that
to
be
known
for
the
record.
It's
absolutely
appalling
that
someone
would
say
that
about
me.
So
I
apologize
that
I
had.
AP
AG
A
J
Let's
get
right
to
it,
I
would
like
Sarah
flex
to
come
to
the
podium,
and
perhaps
she
could
explain
to
us
how
the
charge
that
approving
this
project
could
could
be
a
federal
violation
of
the
fair
housing
ordinance.
I've
heard
this
several
times
and
I
I
mean
we've
been
involved
with
Community
Development
Block
Grant
funds
for
the
30
years,
I've
been
here
and
I
I'm,
trying
to
drill
down.
BC
All
during
the
rainy
members
is
a
committee
Sarah,
flax,
housing
grant,
administrator
I
do
not
see
approval
of
this
building
in
any
way
violating
fair
housing.
The
we
cannot
tell
developers
what
size
units
to
make.
That
is
not
something
that
is
a
fair
housing
issue.
We
also
are
attempting
to
integrate
units.
The
developer
has
actually
come
back
with
a
proposal
to
integrate
units
affordable
units
in
the
development
there
is
no
restriction
by
who
can
who
would
be
eligible
based
on
race
or
anything
of
the
kind.
BC
Obviously,
it
would
be
people
who
are
income
eligible
for
those
units.
The
developer
had
originally
met
the
requirements
of
the
affordable
housing
ordinance
by
proposing
to
pay
and
the
full
fee
in
lieu
of
a
million
nine
and
have
two
portable
units.
In
addition,
so
they
came
back
in
response
to
the
request
at
plan
commission
and
from
residents
who
are
concerned
about
anything
to
do
with
federal
laws.
Our.
J
B
Of
the
things
I
continue
to
be
confused
about
this.
For
example,
The
Wall
Street
Journal
article
keeps
getting
cited,
but
I
read
The
Wall,
Street
Journal
article
and
I,
read
it
to
the
end
and
the
Wall
Street
Journal
article
had
suggestions,
and
now
one
of
the
primary
ones
was
to
increase
the
supply
of
housing.
So
this
seems
to
do
that.
The
article
also
specifically
said
that
regulary
regulatory
restrictions
that
make
development
so
costly
and
lengthy
and
it
can't
have
kept
rates
of
construction
low,
another
plate,
low
in
other
places,
should
be
removed.
B
Zoning
should
be
relaxed
and
developers
should
be
allowed
to
build
smaller
micro
units,
so
maybe
I'm
just
a
little
confused
on
the
point
of
the
article,
but
the
article
seems
to
say
it
describes
a
building
exactly
like
this.
So
that's
a
little
confusing
to
me,
but
what
I
can't
seem
to
find
anywhere
is
how
something
like
this
would
negatively
impact
our
segregation
problem
and
everything
I
seem
to
figure
able
to
locate
in
doing
research
and
looking
into
this
and
trying
to
be
thoughtful
about
it
is,
is
the
opposite?
It's
just
so.
B
If
anybody
you
know
over
the
course,
the
next
couple
of
weeks
has
anything
that
can
get.
They
can
show
me
how
this
would
adversely
affect
our
segregation
problem.
I
would
be
interested
in
seeing
that,
but
so
far
the
materials
I've
been
provided
with
either
don't
do
that
or
describe
the
opposite
so
I'm.
Looking
for
that,
the
a
lot
of
conversations
I've
had
in
the
community
talk
about
you
know,
lovely.
B
You
know,
upscale
dining
experiences
that
doesn't
help
our
housing
problem
at
all,
I
mean
I,
an
upscale
dining
experience
doesn't
address
what
we're
trying
to
it.
What
we're
trying
to
manage
here,
I
vote
on
things,
not
whether
I,
like
you
know,
I
I
have
my
own
opinions
on
what's
attractive
or
not
attractive.
As
far
as
a
building
goes,
I
like
certain
kinds
of
cars,
I,
don't
like
other
kinds
of
cars.
Those
are
taste
questions.
What
I'm
really
trying
to
look
at
is
how
this
is
going
to
impact
our
community.
B
Is
this
going
to
be
a
net
benefit
for
our
community
and
you
or
the
other
alternatives
that
can
come
after
this
going
to
be
better
or
worse,
when
I
consider
the
as
of
right
options,
the
as
of
right
options,
didn't
look
particularly
appealing
when
I
saw
I
think
it
was
mr.
Williams
I
appreciate
the
time
and
energy
that
went
into
that
alternative
proposal,
but
looking
at
that,
the
93
units
with
a
hundred
and
ninety
one
spaces
among
the
people
opposed
to
it.
B
People
were
talking
about
how
we
want
to
be
transit,
oriented,
that's,
not
transit
oriented
if
we
want
to
make
it
more,
affordable,
great
big
units
that
are
going
to
be
really
expensive
and
and
totally
prohibitive.
That's
not
helping
the
problem
either
so
I'm
interested
in
looking
at
solutions
to
problems
and
and
again
I
think
we're
gonna.
Have
you
know
this
isn't
gonna
get
you
know
if
you
voted
on
up
or
down
the
tonight,
but
I
would
really
like
people
to
be
thoughtful
about
the
things
that
they
say
but
to
you
know,
dig
a
little
deeper.
B
You
know
if
you
think
this
is
going
to
negatively
impact.
Something
give
me
the
reasons:
I've
been
spending
time,
trying
to
find
reasons
on
both
sides
of
the
equation,
and
you
know
it's
trending.
One
way
so
I've
heard
from
a
number
of
people,
I
haven't
been
able
to
answer
all
the
emails,
but
I'm,
listening
and
and
I
want
to
make
a
good
decision.
So
I'm
looking
to
you
to
to
back
up
some
of
the
claims,
Baldwin.
M
M
It
sounded
like
this
was
going
to
be
open
and
accessible
to
the
public,
but
then
there
was
some
discussion
about
how
you're
going
to
also
be
providing
for
an
outdoor
seating
area
for
the
restaurant
and
in
a
way
to
sort
of
control
who's
in
and
who's
out
of
the
park.
So
it
becomes,
in
my
mind,
less
of
a
public
park
and
more
of
auxiliary
seating
for
restaurants,
and
so,
if
you
could
clarify
that,
for
me.
AV
Sure
absolutely
Alderman,
so
the
the
general
intent
of
the
park
never
was
for
an
outdoor
dining
experience.
However,
in
speaking
with
with
robb,
it's
something
that
becomes
open
to
him
is
is
having
some
doors
that
opens
some
French
doors
or
a
sliding
door
window
that
sliding
glass
door
that
would
open
to
allow
some
indoor/outdoor
feel
but
it'll
be
restricted
to
just
a
small
portion
of
that
park.
The
remaining
balance
of
the
park
will
be
for
the
public.
The
site
area
is
about
four
thousand
square
feet.
AV
The
park
will
be
in
the
range
of
about
three
thousand.
You
know
working
with
staff
to
create
in
the
ordinance
the
only
allowed
'add
amount
of
space
for
the
restaurant
that
is
allowed.
The
intent
is
for
the
public,
it
will
have
sculpture
work,
it'll
have
strong
lights
above
it,
it'll
have
a
lot
of
benches,
located
all
around
the
seating
areas
to
sit
and
read
a
book
to
bring
your
lunch
from
rotary.
The
idea
of
the
park
is
to
create
energy
to
bring
people
to
the
site.
AV
We
want
random
people
just
to
kind
of
show
up,
pushing
a
stroller
sit
down.
Take
a
phone
call.
We're
engaging
in
that
so
we're
gonna
restrict
that
dining
area
just
for
some
outdoor
dining
area
and
then
we're
going
to
put
up
a
planter
bed.
Essentially,
there
would
be
a
separator
from
the
restaurants
portion
to
the
rest
of
the
portion
so
that
the
two
don't
intermix
together
at
the
end
of
the
day,
they
become
two
separate
entities:
okay,.
M
Thank
you
very
much,
I
wanted
to
say
to
mr.
Weinberger.
Where
are
you
wherever
you
are?
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
You.
Actually,
it
was
very
helpful
for
me
to
talk
about
the
cigarette
for
you
to
talk
about
the
cigarette
setback,
because
I
I
really
didn't
realize
until
you
spoke
about
how
the
lack
of
the
setback
at
the
South
or
gross
street
and
nut
growth.
Yes,
growth,
link.
G
M
Like
it's
running
that
way
at
the
Lake
Street
end
really
does
create
a
sort
of
Canyon
entrance
into
the
downtown,
which
I
think
is
exactly
the
wrong
thing.
I
think.
If
the
building
were
flipped,
it
would
be
a
better
idea
to
and
I
don't
see
that
there's
much
way
that
you
could
do
that,
but
I
think
that
would
be
at
least
visually
better
to
what
we
want.
I
I
do
want
to
say
to
everyone
that
this
is
a
really
tough
project,
because
it's
on
a
site
that
is
very
difficult
it.
M
You
have
heard
me
talk
in
the
past
about
my
interest,
my
very
strong
interest
in
in
preserving
the
niche
retail
that
we
have
in
Evanston
the
problems
that
I
see
in
my
ward-
and
this
is
in
the
4th
Ward.
But
the
problems
I
see
in
my
with
the
new
buildings
that
have
been
constructed
as
that
when
they're
constructed
with
ground-floor
retail.
What
you
end
up
with
is
retail
at
a
market
rate
that
our
Evanston
businesses
can't
afford,
and
so
that
accounts
for
some
of
the
vacancy,
and
so
at
the
last
one.
M
The
meeting
we
had
last
week,
I
asked
for
staff
and
downtown
Evanston
to
take
a
look
at
this,
so
that
I'm
not
making
a
wrong
assumption,
but
I
think
that's
something
that
we
as
a
council
need
to
look
at,
because
the
last
thing
I
want
to
do
is
build
a
building
like
this
and
then
have
ground-floor
retail,
that's
empty.
That
doesn't
do
us
any
good,
and
especially
it
I.
M
Don't
please
don't
clap,
because
I
don't
I'm,
really
not
going
to
be
able
to
speak
very
long,
but
that
does
exactly
the
opposite
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
I
also
feel
real
strongly
that
I
don't
remember
who
mentioned
it,
but
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
where
we're
at
with
the
downtown
historically
Evanston.
The
perception
was-
and
this
is
a
myth.
An
urban
myth
that
keeps
sort
of
feeding
on
itself
was
that
it
was
hard
for
developers
to
work
in
Evanston.
M
So
I
think
various
councils
in
the
past
leaned
over
backwards
to
try
to
be
more
more
encouraging
to
development
and
to
be
easier
to
work
with,
because
to
counteract
that.
That
was
the
word
on
the
street.
I.
Think
we've
gone
way
too
far
and
I
think
that
it's
time
for
us
to
step
up
and
be
be
the
leaders
that
we
need
to
be
in
determining
the
future
of
the
downtown
I
mean
there
are
I.
M
Don't
think
anyone
would
disagree
with
a
fact
that
there
are
character
giving
blocks
in
the
downtown
that
actually
enhance
business
and
wanting
to
come
to
Evanston,
and
if
we
throw
these
away
with
too
much
concrete
and
glass,
then
we've
lost
our
downtown,
and
these
are
not
little
buildings
anymore.
Not
talking
about.
Oh
you've
got
a
target
over
in
some
parking
lot
that
you
could.
If
you
decided
you
didn't
want
that
there
anymore,
you
could
tear
the
building
down
in
24
hours,
you're
talking
about
large
buildings
here
that
are
going
to
be
basically
defining
our
downtown.
M
So
I
I
appreciated
Alderman
Revell
calling
the
meeting
last
week.
It
was
helpful.
We
are,
we
do
look
at
the
guide
of
the
2009
downtown
plan.
I
appreciate
it
again
the
person
who
who
brought
that
up,
because
that
does
mean
that
there
is
a
consistency
in
the
way
that
that
various
councils
have
looked
at
the
plan
to
retain
these
character,
giving
blocks,
and
it
may
be
mr.
Weinberger
also
who
mentioned
this
there,
not
very
many
of
them,
and
so
we
should
take
our
time
to
try
to
get
it
right.
M
Aside
from
that,
the
density,
the
size
of
the
units-
all
of
that
is
causing
me
an
immense
amount
of
trouble.
Thank
you
to
the
architect
who
brought
up
the
the
possibility
of
looking
at
things
a
little
bit
differently.
I
thought
that
was
very
interesting,
but
I'm
struggling
with
this
right
now.
Thank
you.
J
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
ever
going
to
be
a
chance,
we've
heard
people's
perceptions
of
everything.
That's
wrong
with
this
today,
today,
I
heard
that
this
was
a
condominium
I
heard
today
that
there
were
only
going
to
be
two
units
of
affordable
housing
in
this
project
and
that's
what
was
wrong
with
it.
I
heard
today
that
we're
as
smart
as
Oak,
Park
and
Oak
Park
defeated
this
when
in
reality,
Oak
Park
did
not
defeat
it.
J
It
it
passed
it
this
past
week,
six
to
one
tonight,
I
heard
that
it's
exacerbating
segregation
I
heard
tonight
that
there
were
too
many
parking
spaces
in
this
building
and
that
it
was
area
of
transportation
and
it
was
a
a
Tod
and
we
should
reduce
the
number
of
parking
spaces
here.
I
think
it's
so
interesting.
There
are.
There
are
many
good
things
about
this
and
to
to
dismiss
the
idea
that
there
are
15
units
of
affordable
housing.
Here,
I
think
is
is
deplorable.
This
I
was
talking
to
sue
low
back
from
connections
from
the
homeless.
J
A
J
J
If
the
if
this
happens,
this
is
a
historical
event
and
and
we
should
embrace
it,
there
are
other
there
we
had.
We
had
merchants
coming
before
us
tonight
saying
that
this
is
going
to
help
them.
We
had
the
people
who
owned
these
these
properties
right
now
saying
we're
going
out
of
business.
The
place
is
going
to
be
vacant.
There
are
two
lots
of
contaminated,
so
it
filled
with
contaminated
soils.
Nothing's
going
to
happen
here,
nobody's
going
to
take
it
on
the
lenders.
By
the
way
are
the
new
environmental
police?
J
They
are
nobody
nobody's
going
to
lend
money
unless
you
have
people
with
deep
pockets
like
these
developers.
This.
This
is
an
opportunity
that
we
really
can't
turn
down
in
my
mine.
You
know
there
are
there.
The
taste
police
are
out
granted
some
people,
don't
like
this
design.
I
wanted
to
speak.
One
minute,
maybe
times
ten
about
what
people
think
about
the
character
of
Evanston,
the
character
of
Evanston
used
to
be
marshal
feels
Branson's,
Joseph's
shoes,
Stephens
department
store,
Rothschilds,
we
bolts,
I
could
go
on
and
on.
J
Oh,
the
varsity
theater,
the
corn
at
the
Valencia
theater
a
bunch
of
little
restaurants,
a
bunch
of
little
cafes
that
used
to
be
the
character
people
thought
we
were
all
going
to
just
die.
If
any
one
of
those
clothes,
then
Along,
Came
old
orchard
and
this
town
collapsed
literally
collapse.
All
those
stores
closed
I
mean
there
must
have
been
ten
major
department
stores
in
this
town
that
no
longer
exist.
That
I
think
the
only
remaining
building
is
really
Marshall
Field's
and
some
semblance
of
the
varsity
theater
along
came
the
research
part.
J
Oh,
that
was
going
to
save
save
Evanston.
Of
course
it
was
a
miserable
failure.
Then
Along,
Came
aldermen
went
and
myself
and
the
class
of
nineteen,
but
ninety
seven,
ninety
seven
and
we
we
talked
about
having
a
massive
project
of
the
the
hill
development
on
Maple
Street.
Oh,
if
you
think
you
have
a
campaign
going
here
against
this
one
little
building,
you
should
have
seen
that
Evanston
Evanston
you,
everybody
was
moving.
We're
going
to
move
to
will
Matt
to
Highland
Park
we're
going
to
move
to
Martin
Grove
it
didn't
matter.
J
Everybody
was
leaving
town
because
the
streets
were
going
to
be
filled
with
cars.
It
was
going
to
be
gridlock.
People
who
lived
out
on
Church
Street
would
not
be
able
to
people
who
lived
on
or
inton
would
never
be
able
to
get
home
again.
It
was
going
to
be
a
horrible
mess.
Well,
we
actually
were
responsible
for
building
the
theaters,
the
hotel.
J
We
had
the
largest
single
surface
parking
lot
in
the
world
on
Maple
Avenue
between
Church,
Street
and
Emerson,
and
look
at
it
now
and
they
took,
and
they
told
us
also
when
we
built
it,
Sherman
Avenue
would
be
dead
because
there
was
no
way
to
connect
that
development
was
Sherman
Avenue.
When
we
shut
down
the
levy.
Center
people
said:
if
you
don't
build
the
levy
Center
on
top
of
the
corrupt
Maple
Avenue
garage,
all
the
seniors
would
die
and
they
would
never
be
able
to
enjoy
life
again.
J
We
built
it
in
the
middle
of
James
Park.
Nobody
would
ever
go
there.
This
most
magnificent
Senior
Center
he
ever
saw
anyway,
so
life
will
not
come
to
an
end
and
the
character
of
downtown
Evanston
will
not
change
for
the
worst.
If
we
build
a
building
that
some
people
don't
like
and
believe
me,
the
1,700
names
on
that
petition
are
not
1700
Evanson
residents.
We
know
that.
So
it's
an
amazing
project
that
you
got
seventeen
hundred
names,
but
it
is
not
totally
reflective
of
all
the
people
in
Evanston.
J
J
At
the
end
of
the
day,
this
council
is
going
to
support
this
project
because
it's
going
to
provide
housing
for
lots
of
people
who
are
going
to
take
their
money
and
shop
at
these
wonderful
little
shops
that
alderman
Fisk
is
talking
about
I,
don't
care
who
goes
in
the
new
retail?
That's
the
problem
of
the
developer.
That's
our
little!
Our
little
business
small
businesses
aren't
going
to
move
in
they're,
probably
probably
a
couple
of
real
estate.
J
Companies
might
go
in
there
and
have
brokerage
companies,
but
our
little
businesses
need
the
people
who
are
going
to
be
living
in
these
units
shopping
in
their
stores.
They
need
to
be
going
to
taco
Diablo.
They
need
to
be
going
to
Pete
Miller's.
They
need
to
be
going
all
up
and
down
Main
Street,
all
up
and
down
Dempster
they're,
going
to
be
going
up
to
Simpson,
Street
eating
and
ramen
restaurant.
That's
that's
where
they're
gonna
be.
Thank
you.
A
J
200
units
of
housing
in
downtown
Evanston
is
a
phenomenal
thing.
Marilyn
Ruby's
reminded
those
of
you
who
live
up
Norrington
Avenue,
that
is
her
neighborhood.
She
lives
in
downtown
Evanston,
Thank,
You,
alderman.
I
I
have
to
say
that
I
was
and
I
guess,
I
still
AM
less
than
enthusiastic
about
the
aesthetics,
the
architecture
style,
but
understanding
the
needs
of
our
overall
community
I.
Have
this
project
now?
Has
my
attention
15
units
of
affordable
housing
beyond
the
wards
that
generally
have
affordable
housing?
It's
something
that
we've
talked
about
as
a
community
I'm
wanting
to
expand
housing,
and
this
meets
that
goal
in
a
way
that
we
would
really
be
challenged
to
meet
that
goal
with
other
projects.
I
In
addition
to
that,
it's
hard
to
dismiss
the
economic
activity
that
would
support
the
business
community
downtown
and
the
broader
community
in
moving
forward.
I
would
like
to
look
at
reworking
the
public
benefit.
The
divi
bike,
460
and
I
think
that
there
might
be
a
more
thoughtful
used
for
60,000
I
believe
that
there
are
divvied
stations
not
too
far
from
this
location.
I
The
$50,000
for
the
park
is
that,
in
addition
to
the
Harper
project,
or
is
that
you
know
I'm
unsure
I
would
challenge
the
developer
to
meet
our
MWBE
goals
in
contracting
minority,
local
and
women
contractors.
I
would
also
challenge
the
developer
to
be
thoughtful
in
local
hiring
as
well.
If
there
is
a
way
to
have
a
first
opportunity
for
current
Evanston
residents
to
have
access
to
the
affordable
housing,
I,
don't
I,
don't
know.
If
that
is
a
fair
housing
thing
or
not,
I,
don't
it
can't
happen.
I
BD
A
BC
One
of
the
things
that
council
approved
was
funding
to
develop
our
own
waiting
list
for
the
inclusionary
units.
It
would
come
from
that
list.
That
list
will
have
a
priority
through
people
who
currently
live
and
work
in
Evanston,
and
we
will
bring
that
back
for
review
by
the
housing
and
homelessness,
but.
BC
BD
A
local
list
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
anybody
else's.
We
approve,
we
approved
engaging
SEPA
to
keep
that
waiting
list
for
us
because
we
knew
we're
going
to
have
these
portable
units
coming
online.
Well.
I
certainly
do
appreciate
the
economic
vitality
that
a
development
on
this
site
would
bring
to
Evanston
that
the
area
really
does
need
redevelopment
I.
BD
There
are
a
couple
of
well
I
in
the
fact
that
there
are
going
to
be
affordable.
Units
in
the
building
are
really
really
important.
We
know
how
expensive
it
is
to
build
new,
affordable
units,
and
we
heard
the
price
tag
tonight.
Three
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
each
one
of
the
we've
talked
a
lot
about
how
we
keep
saying.
We
want
to
have
significant
public
benefits
and
these
projects,
and
yet
we've
never
really
might
define
what
we
mean
by
it.
BD
BD
I'm,
not
troubled
by
the
parking
number
of
parking
spaces.
I
do
believe
that
it
reflects
the
current
vehicle
ownership
patterns
and
so
I
think
I
think
I
do
think.
The
parking
allowance
is
as
adequate
but
I
guess.
I
am
very
troubled
by
the
scale
and
the
mass
of
the
project
and
I
really
don't
I'm
troubled
by
it
in
that
particular
location,
which
should
be
a
transition
to
the
lower
density
buildings
to
the
south.
A
B
To
pick
up
one
of
alderman
Rainey's
themes:
I,
don't
live
in
Evanston
because
of
the
buildings.
I
live
in
Evanston
because
of
the
character
of
the
people.
So
when
I
think
about
the
character
of
Evanston,
I,
think
about
my
neighbors
I
think
about
my
friends,
I
think
about
the
people.
I
get
the
opportunity
to
interact
with
doing
this
job.
So
to
me,
that's
what
it's
really
about,
and
these
buildings
are
gonna
change.
B
Buildings,
don't
last
forever,
some
last
really
long
time
and
decay,
I
guess
to
kind
of
tie
that
into
the
whole
idea
about
the
plan.
I've
talked
to
a
lot
of
people
about
the
issues
I
have
with
the
plan.
I
don't
want
to
follow
the
plan
as
it's
written.
You
know
there
are
a
lot
of
good
points
and
a
lot
of
good
ideas
in
it,
but
at
the
same
time,
that
plan
would
allow
us
would
allow
developers
to
take
down
existing
awesome
buildings
that
I
love
in
this
city.
B
So
you
could
have
large
swaths
of
two
and
three
and
four-story
buildings
in
the
what's
defined
is
the
core
area.
You
know,
as
of
right,
put
up
a
25-story
30-story
building
and
we
really
wouldn't
have
much
to
say
about
that.
So
that's
that's
really
what
that
part
boils
down
to
it's,
not
that
I
don't
appreciate
the
concepts
in
the
plan.
B
It's
not
that
I,
don't
appreciate
the
ideas
and
the
ideals
I
do
at
the
same
time,
but
while
I'm
here
for
the
character,
the
people
I
don't
want
to
wreck,
you
know
what
does
really
make
this
special
and
in
this
block
you
know
it's
I
get
the
idea
about
the
transitional
nature.
But
you
know
it's:
it's
not!
The
most
special
Block
in
town
I've
tried
to
get
this
petition.
I
can't
get
this
petition
I'm
interested
in
getting
it.
So
that's
the
1,700
person
petition.
B
K
B
I,
just
I
would
like
to
get
it
because
I
haven't
been
able
to
get
it
and
and
again
back
to
that
whole
point
about
the
supply
and
demand
I
talk
about
that
in
a
lot
of
different
contexts,
but
if
there's
other
evidence
out
there
that
shows
that
I'm
wrong
about
that.
I
would
be
interested
to
see
that
more
supply,
if
we
add
housing
to
our
existing
housing
stock
a
lot
there.
The
reference
to
the
loss
of
affordable
housing
keeps
getting
made.
B
I
keep
making
this
point
over
and
over
again
that
a
housing
for
the
most
part
didn't
get
torn
down.
There
are
exceptions
to
that,
but
the
housing
became
unaffordable
because
the
wages
are
not
keeping
up
with
the
rents,
so
there
might
be
two
opportunities
here,
so
we
say
we
want
affordable
housing
and
we
can
raise
the
wages
okay.
B
A
A
A
The
number
of
studios
and
I
know
that
we
do
need
some
studios,
but
that
predominantly
these
are
to
bedroom
or
smaller
and
I
know
that
we
do
have
demand
in
the
community
for
for
affordable
housing
for
our
families,
so
that
that
is
something
that
I'd
like
to
hear
more
about
it,
that
we
can
get
a
different
mix.
But
when
I
look
at
this
I
do
think
the
the
place
where
this
development
starts
is
the
land
price
and,
right
now
this
land
is
looking
for.
A
What
is
the
correct
price
and,
depending
on
what
we
do
up
here,
a
marketplace
will
be
established
for
land
in
Evanston
and
I
understand
that
land
price
then
drives
what
the
development
will
be.
That
can
be
built
on
this
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
think
that
the
the
mass
on
this
and
the
density
is
too
large
for
the
site.
I,
don't
you
know
everyone
has
a
different
opinion
about
architecture.
A
I,
do
think,
there's
good
and
bad
in
Evanston,
but
I
think
fundamentally
the
because
of
the
length
of
this
site
and
because
of
the
height
it
is
going
to
create
a
wall.
I
recognize
as
alderman
fisk
says.
This
is
a
difficult
site
to
build
on
it's
a
trapezoid,
that's
expensive,
to
build
on
a
site
that
looks
like
this,
but
that
should
also
be
part
of
the
land
price
that
this
is
an
expensive
site
to
to
build
on
for
any
developer.
A
So
the
price
should
be
that
reflected
so
I
I,
don't
like
the
mass
I,
don't
like
the
density.
I
think
that
the
southern
end
should
not
be
as
tall
as
it
is.
I
do
appreciate
the
ziggurat
aspect.
It
has
worked
for
us
in
a
number
of
places
and
I
do
and
I'm
I'm
concerned
about
the
precedent
that
this
might
set
for
future
developments,
because
this
then
demonstrates
what
the
city
will
approve,
which
then
changes
the
land
price
throughout
Evanston.
I.
Don't
want
to
send
that
signal.
A
I
want
to
send
a
signal
that
shows
that
we
want
a
different
mix
of
affordable
housing
that
we
don't
want
to
blow
the
roof
off
our
development
allowances
that
they're
there
for
a
purpose
and
that
I
don't
think
in
this
instance.
What
I'm
seeing
so
far
I
don't
believe
that
the
public
benefits
justify
the
size
and
mass
of
this
building
right
now,
so
it
clearly,
the
bloc
clearly
needs
to
be
developed,
its
underdeveloped
right.
Now,
it's
walkable
to
our
downtown.
A
We
should
have
a
good
development
there
and-
and
we
will
get
one
I-
don't
know
that
it
right
now.
It's
this
in
this
form.
I
do
want
to
speak
to
the
community
that
we
have
all
of
the
issues
that
have
been
being
raised.
You
know
I
appreciate
the
advocacy
I
was
a
citizen
in
your
shoes
long
ago.
It's
why
I'm
here
now
and
my
is
she
lost
in
front
of
the
city
in
front
of
the
CBA
and
in
front
of
the
City
Council,
it's
how
I
know
Seth.
A
But
you
know
I
think
it's
really
really
important
to
be
accurate
when
you're
sending
information
out
throughout
the
community.
There's
a
lot
of
inaccurate
information,
that's
going
around
the
community
and
it
really
undermines
our
ability
to
listen
to
the
good
ideas
that
people
are
bringing
to
us.
We
have
never
had
micro
units
until
831
Emerson,
no
one
has
ever
labeled
their
units.
A
It's
really
hard
to
cut
through
the
inaccurate
information
and
just
today,
all
of
us
have
heard
a
lot
of
really
nasty
rumors
that
are
circulating
in
the
community
about
really
worthwhile
groups
here
receiving
money
from
the
developer,
which
are
just
not
true,
and
so
as
I
really
want
to
hear
from
people
about
critical,
constructive
criticism.
But
you
know
the
buzz
of
all
of
the
alcoholic
fake
facts
really
does
a
disservice
to
everyone
in
the
community.
A
So
I
would
appreciate
it
if
everyone
check
their
facts
we're
all
up
here
we
have
a
wide
open
city
website,
I'll
get
answers
for
you
on
occupancy
rates
at
buildings
and
size
of
units.
If
you
want,
but
but
please
don't,
let's
just
stick
to
the
fact.
There's
plenty
to
talk
about
so,
let's,
let's
all
stick
to
that
now,
I
think
we
should
someone
would
I'd
like
someone
to
make
a
motion.
I
would
like
to
hold
this
in
committee,
because
I
want
to
hear
more
from
the
community
moved.
J
Up
on
chair,
I
I
think
that
the
rest
of
the
council
needs
to
weigh
in
on
this,
and
we
can
have
that
if
we
keep
it
here
doesn't
mean
that
we
have
to
pass
it
or
anything.
But
the
rest
of
the
council
needs
to
have
an
opportunity
to
discuss
this
and
they
can't
do
that.
I
know.
I
know.
Alderman
fleming
really
wants
to
talk
about
this.
All.
A
A
It'll,
be
here
a
two
now
with
this
committee
meeting
or
I'm,
hoping
that
we'll
hear
more
information
back
from
the
developer
on
the
issues
that
have
been
discussed
by
by
members
of
the
council
and
the
if
the
community
would
like
to
continue
this
discussion,
we're
here.
Okay.
Thank
you
all
very
much.
Now
we're
going
to
move
on
with
the
rest
of
our
agenda.