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A
B
In
that
regard,
given
the
level
of
consternation
and
controversy
related
to
the
development
of
the
17
14
to
17,
20
Chicago
Avenue
property
design,
Evanston
has
decided
to
engage
in
a
design
charrette
to
investigate
and
propose
appropriate
development
solutions
for
that
property.
We
believe
that
the
results
of
such
an
effort
would
add
valuable
information
and
context
for
any
future
RFQ.
B
B
B
C
D
Hi
I'm
Vicki
Burke,
representing
the
WCTU
local
historic
site,
which
is
frequently
called
the
Willard
property
north
of
the
library
parking
lot
and
I'm
gonna
change
my
comments
a
little
bit
based
on
what
was
just
said.
We
would
love
for
something
like
this
to
happen
and
we
would
love
to
provide
information,
historical
information
about
the
property
north
of
the
library
parking
lots.
D
I
was
pretty
appalled
to
hear
her
and
see
that,
because
we
have
had
one
meeting
in
three
years
with
alderman
Fisk
August
14th
2017
by
my
standards
that
doesn't
even
come
close
to
being
extraordinary
measures
in
that
same
time
period.
We
repeatedly
asked
aldermen
to
this
and
many
older
people
who
some
of
you
came
to
meet
with
us,
come
to
our
property
and
she
never
took
advantage
of
those
opportunities.
D
So
we
finally
stopped
asking
I
sit
at
meetings
and
I
hear
her
speak
about
us
and
the
future
of
a
future
expectations
of
the
property,
as
if
she
has
first-hand
knowledge
which
she
does
not
I
would
really
like
you
to
consider
following
through
with
what
many
of
you
have
indicated,
you
would
like
to
see,
which
is
community
involvement,
to
determine
the
best
future
of
this
community
on
property,
and
we
would
be
more
than
happy
to
have
answer
any
questions
that
you
would
have
directly
to
us.
Ask
us
directly
come
to
our
site.
D
E
We
would
be
I'm
Janet's
title.
We
would
be
putting
the
cart
before
the
horse
again
with
this
RFQ
for
the
library
parking
lot.
Three
years
ago,
the
city
decided
to
put
that
property
up
for
sale
for
the
development
of
an
office
building
without
any
input
from
the
community.
That
I
am
aware
of.
Why
would
anyone
want
to
repeat
that
scenario?
I,
certainly
don't,
but
that's
exactly
where
we
are
heading
with
this
proposed
RFQ,
it's
time
for
a
new
approach
driven
by
the
community
in
partnership
with
the
city.
E
We
have
guidance
for
the
appropriate
use
of
this
site
from
zoning
laws
and
urban
plans.
We
have
need
for
its
current
use
from
the
library
to
nearby
restaurants,
residents,
professionals,
retailers
and
visitors,
and
that
need
is
not
going
away.
Instead,
the
fate
of
this
open
land
is
even
more
important
now
because
of
housing
and
office
developments
proposed
for
the
1600
block
of
Chicago
Avenue.
Just
one
block
south
I
urge
you
to
vote
no
on
item
P
1
the
RFQ,
because
it's
just
premature,
let's
start
fresh,
let's
take
time
to
gather
expert
input.
E
F
Mike
Basilico
27,
28,
Reese,
I,
guess
you
know,
there's
only
two
pages
and
the
packet
regarding
this
there's.
No
development
of
requirements
for
what
people
are.
What
you're
asking
people
to
put
on
paper
again,
I
agree
with
the
previous
speaker,
it's
half-baked
and
why
it
keeps
coming
back
to
counsel
is
just
a
mystery
to
me.
It
keeps
coming
back
I've
heard
about
this
now,
for
probably
over
a
year
going
back
and
forth.
If
not
longer-
and
the
question
is
why
people
said
no,
they
don't
want
this
development
it
took
to
occur.
They
don't
want.
F
You
know.
All
of
them
to
win,
has
something
that
she's
driving
at
I'm.
Sorry,
not
all
of
them.
The
win
almond
Fisk
has
something
that
she's
driving
at
to
get
this
property
developed
and
I,
don't
understand
it
and
it's
I.
It
could
be
because
you
know
there's
money
to
be
had
I
guess
if
you
sell
the
property
and
that
would
go
towards
Robert
crown
supposedly,
but
that's
not
what
we
want
to
do.
F
A
P
one
staff
recommends
that
City
Council
authorize
the
city
manager
and
his
designee
to
issue
a
request
for
qualifications
to
identify
interest
by
parties
for
the
redevelopment
of
property
at
seventeen
fourteen
to
seventeen
twenty
Chicago
Avenue,
with
following
terms
qualification,
summary
statement,
development,
team
overview,
representative
projects,
and/or
experience,
current
projects,
financial
information,
reference
and
points
of
contact
for
projects
for
action.
Is
there
any
discussion?
Oh.
A
C
G
H
Well,
I
appreciate
design
Evanston
and
it's
their
offer
to
do
a
design
charrette
for
us.
I.
Think
that
we'll
be
providing
the
really
important
expert
assistance
that
we
need
to
really
help
determine
what
would
be
appropriate
for
this
site.
I
I
think,
as
I
said
at
our
last
council
meeting,
I
felt
it
was
really
time
to
get
some
input
about
what
type,
what
what
kind
of
a
building
would
really
be
most
appropriate
for
this
site,
given
its
historic,
landmark,
neighbors
and.
I
E
H
This
design
charrette
would
really
give
us
this
very
important
information.
I
think
we
also
want
to
find
a
way
for
the
community
as
a
whole
to
give
us
some
input,
but
I'm,
particularly
interested
in
focusing
first
on
this
expert
design
input
that
we
could
get
from
design
Evanston.
So
I
can't
support
going
ahead
with
this
RFQ,
while
we're
still
basically
taking
I
think
as
Janet
said,
a
fresh
look
at
the
that
those
property
and
I
really
want
us
to
hear
from
some
design
experts
before
we
move
ahead.
J
In
my
opinion,
we
got
a
proposal
that,
in
the
end,
wasn't
going
to
be
appropriate,
so
I
feel
like
the
appropriate
next
step,
is
to
make
a
determination
on
whether
or
not
we
a
want
to
sell
the
property,
and
if
we
do
what
we
want
that
to
look
like.
So
we
in
the
luxurious
position
of
owning
this
parcel,
so
we're
not
gonna
build
anything
on
it
ourselves,
presumably,
but
at
the
same
time
we
have
the
ability
to
get
input
from
the
community
and
make
a
decision
on
what
the
parameters
of
what
of.
J
If
there
is
a
building.
What
that
should
look
like
how
high
it
should
be,
what
the
zoning
should
be
so
I
feel
like
what
we
should
be
doing
is
making
a
decision
on
what
that
would
look
like
in
advance
of
going
out
and
getting
the
proposals.
We
could
get
just
a
random
list
of
things
that
could
be
completely
inappropriate,
caused
a
lot
of
consternation
in
the
community,
even
though
there
might
be
things
we
wouldn't
otherwise
pursue.
J
But
I
really
think
it's
useful
for
the
people
who
would
be
interested
in
pursuing
a
project
to
have
specific
parameters
to
know
what
they're
getting
to
know
what
kind
of
price
they
could
offer
us
and
and
not
waste
a
lot
of
people's
time.
So
I
think
that
should
be
our
next
step
and
I.
Don't
want
to
do
this
I,
don't
think
we
should
do
this
RFP
proposal,
Thank.
K
Fisk,
yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
The
the
purpose
behind
this
really
was
to
respond
to
those
people
who
had
contacted
us
during
the
process
and
said,
if
anything
doesn't
happen
to
this
particular
project,
would
you
please
let
us
know
we're
interested
in
developing
the
site
and
without
us
moving
forward
on
this?
We
wouldn't
really
have
that
information.
I
know
there
are
a
couple
of
people
who
have
contacted
us
already
and
I.
K
My
guess
is
that
there
are
a
few
more
out
there
and
I
think
it's
incumbent
on
us
to
respond
to
them
and
hear
what
they
have
to
say
and
what
their
vision
for
the
site
is.
I.
Think
that,
as
we
all
know,
the
site
is
currently
zoned
r6
that
allows
for
a
building.
That's
85
feet
tall
with
four
more
floors
of
parking,
either
residential
or
something
close
close
to
it.
Under
our
zoning
code
and
I
would
like
to
have
more
information.
I
would
like
to
know
what
the
development
community
is
saying
to
us.
L
You
I
I
think
that
there
are
a
lot
of
good
ideas
up
here.
I
I
have
to
say
I,
agree
well,
I
want
to
thank
design
Evanston,
because
I
think
this
is.
That
would
be
a
great
service
to
us
here
in
Evanston,
hair
have
to
have
a
Charette
by
Evan
stone
into
our
design
experts.
Who
will
give
us
some
ideas
of
what
can
happen
there
then
and
I
agree
with
alderman,
Ravel
and
and
alderman
Wilson.
That
I
think
that
an
RFQ
is
premature
here.
L
Eventually,
if
we
picked
what
we
wanted
at
this
site,
then
I
think
an
RFQ
is
absolutely
the
next
step,
because
we
want
to
be
able
to
compare
qualifications
to
other
qualifications
so
that
we
make
sure
that
we
get
someone
who
can
do
the
job
that
we
are
asking
him
to
do.
So
I
would
suggest
that
we
table
this
until
the
or
or
or
or
just
decide
to
bring
this
idea
back
at
some
point,
but
I
would
first
say
we
should
have
this
Charette
from
design
Evanston
we've
had
charettes
before
that
had
been
very
useful.
L
We
had
one
about
regarding
Fountain
Square,
that
that
really
gave
us
the
seeds
for
the
idea
for
what
we
have
now
there
and
it's
it's
an
excellent
process
and
and
and
it's
one
that
many
people
can
participate
in,
not
just
design
professionals.
So
I
think
that
that
that
would
be
the
next
step
we
should
go
to
because,
as
Aldrin
Wilson
said,
otherwise
we
get
a
wide
assortment.
That
net
isn't
necessarily
some
something
there
might
be
something
we
want
to
do.
But
then
it's
apples,
oranges,
grapefruits
watermelon!
You
can't
really
compare
them.
L
L
L
C
M
A
M
A
B
G
M
M
Much
could
I
just
finish
my
thoughts
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much,
and
then
she
can
go
after
this.
So
my
point:
what's
going
to
be
okay,
so
this
is
going
to
be
a
close
group
of
the
design
oven,
some
people
who
some
some
my
disciplines
around
design,
ovens
and
some
of
my
longest
oldest
firms
run.
However,
however,
what
I'm
wondering
is
why
why
would
we
not
that?
Why
does
one
exclude
the
other
I
think
it
would
be
fascinating
after
this?
What
I
think
was
one
next
to
Harley,
Clark
I
think
this.
M
This
fiasco
with
the
library
parking
lot
was
one
of
the
most
disappointing
experiences
of
my
time
on
the
council
I.
You
know
we
went
through
two
different
phases
of
the
library
parking
lot.
I
think
it
would
be
fascinating
to
this
is
this
is
not
a
request
for
proposals.
We
don't
want
to
know
what
they're
gonna
bill.
We
want
to
know
who's
out
there.
That
has
any
interest
in
a
project
at
this
location.
That's
what
we
want
to
know.
We
want
to
know
and
how
much
money
do
you
have,
how
deeper
your
pockets?
M
Who
is
your
team?
Who,
who
would
be
your
your
builder?
Who
would
be
your
design
people
that
that's
the
kind
of
thing
we're
looking
for?
What's
your
reputation,
have
you
ever
done
anything
before
you
know?
Do
you
have
awards?
You
know
how
big
are
you
help
famous?
Are
you?
Those
are
the
things
we
want
to
know
what
would
be
so
bad
to,
while
they're
doing
their
thing
to
have
to
find
out
who
the
qualified
people
are
in
this
country?
Who
would
be
interested
in
doing
it?
M
I'm
thinking,
I,
remember
when
we
talked
about,
let's
get
something
brilliant
done
here:
I'm
the
first
thing
that
came
to
mind
when
I
saw
this
item
on
planning
and
development.
I
was
thinking
the
library,
the
library
across
the
street.
That's
what
I'm
thinking.
We
got
such
interesting
proposals
and
you
won't
believe
this,
but
the
proposals
that
the
staff
selected
when
that
thing
was
going
to
be
built.
Several
members
of
the
oven
since
City
Council
said
but
I
mean
we
got
hundred
I,
don't
know
how
many
hundreds
we
died.
It
was
a
competition
we
rejected
them.
M
We
said
wait
a
minute
how
many
proposals
and
you're
giving
us
three
or
four:
we
want
to
see
them
all
and
we
went
through
them
all.
A
group
of
us
and
the
one
the
one
we
picked
was
not
in
that
top
category.
We
found
others
that
were
so
much
more
exciting,
so
there
there
are
people
out
there
that
didn't
even
know
about
the
library
parking
lot
that
might
come
forward.
If
we
put
something
out
like
this,
you
just
never
know
so.
M
I
think
I
think
we
are
I,
think
we're
shortchanging
ourselves
by
not
putting
something
out.
Let's
say
nobody,
nobody
sends
us
anything.
Let's
say
we
get
a
hundred.
There
might
be
something
really
brilliant
in
it.
There
might
be
not
something
because
we're
not
asking
for
some
we're
asking
for
who
who's
out
there
I
think
we
ought
to
give
it
a
shot.
K
Thank
You,
Aldrin,
rainy,
I,
think
I
think
that's
a
really
good
idea.
I
mean
I.
I
have
certainly
no
objection
to
design
Evanston.
Taking
a
look
at
this,
but
I
do
think
we
would
be
hurting
ourselves
by
not
by
not
finding
out
more
information
and
there's
nothing
binding
in
the
information
we
would
be.
We
would
be
seeking
it's
just
who's
out
there,
who's
interested.
That's
all
we're
asking
is
who's
out
there,
who's
interested
and
I
again.
K
Think
that
has
gotten
lost
over
time.
But
I
do
I.
Do
think.
It's
real
important
that
that
everyone
out
in
the
public,
as
well
as
my
colleagues
on
the
council,
understand
that
we,
we
really
have
a
commitment
to
try
to
keep
our
community
and
our
central
business
district
as
strong
as
it
can
be
and
work
together
to
do
that
and
I
see
aldermen
Rainey's
suggestion
as
a
way
to
do
it.
K
I
would
just
encourage
design
Evanston,
rather
than
keeping
this
very
insulated
and
working
on
it
to
open
it
up
to
the
general
public
and
I'm
sure.
The
parasol
room
is
available,
I'm
sure
that
everyone
has
ideas.
There
have
been
a
couple
of
people
up
at
the
microphone
over
time
who
have
expressed
ideas
and
an
interest,
but
the
larger
picture
really
is
the
equal
economic
viability
of
our
central
business
district.
That's
the
most
important
thing
to
me.
So
thank
you
all
during
rainy
for
that.
That
idea.
J
In
Memphis
you're
right
and
this,
this
really
started
when
a
local
business
approached
us
about
building
an
office
building
for
there
to
keep
the
business
in
town
and
they
made
a
different
choice.
But
that's
how
this
all
was
initiated
into
my
recollection
and
and
I'm
an
agreement
that
this
is
about
the
benefits
to
the
downtown.
But
in
order
to
to
pursue
that,
I
really
feel
like.
We
need
to
establish
some
some
parameters
based
on
what
the
community
is
expecting.
J
I
think
that
we
we
run
the
risk
we've
not
already
done
so,
of
alienating
our
constituents
and
leading
them
to
think
that
we're
disregarding
what
they
value.
As
far
as
as
far
as
the
downtown's
concern
we
hear
from
businesses,
we
hear
from
residents,
we
hear
from
a
lot
of
different
interests
and
I
think
that
if
we
just
you,
know
open
this
up
completely,
businesses
are
going
to
be
worried
that
it's
going
to
be
a
high-rise
apartment
building.
J
J
M
Well,
once
again,
alderman
Wilson
we're
not
we're
not
looking
for
a
project,
we're
looking
we're
looking
for
that
quality
gem
out
there
who
does
buildings
and
who
will
build
the
right
building,
we're
not
asking
for
projects
and
by
giving
it
to
a
very
narrowly
focused
design
group.
We're
you
know,
we
don't
know
what
we're
gonna
get
from
them.
We
might.
We
might
get
a
project
that
you
know
it's
beautiful,
but
maybe
we're
just
gonna
get
a
building.
M
We
don't
know
what
they're
gonna
produce
so
by
not
including
the
community,
we're
gonna
get
what
they
give
us
so
I
think
we're.
We
have
a
balance
here
that
we
need
to
make
so
I,
don't
see
what
could
possibly
be
of
to
anybody
in
this
room
that
we
asked
we
asked
developers
in
this
country.
Are
you
interested
in
working
with
us
here.
G
M
All
we're
asking
for
we're
asking
for
people
with
the
capacity
to
work
for
the
city
of
Evanston,
because
the
very
first
thing
they're
gonna
do
is
look.
Is
look
at
the
press
what's
been
happening
regarding
this
they're
going
to
know
within
ten
minutes
what
the
prevailing
thought
is
about
this
property,
so
they're
gonna
have
to
have
a
strong
stomach
and
a
very
thoughtful
mind
and
I
I
don't
see
what
your
concern
is.
I,
don't
see
why
this
has
to
be
a
quarrel.
I
really
don't
can
we
all
get
along.
H
Well,
I
think
the
response
that
we
would
get
from
the
exciting
wonderful
developers
out
there
will
just
be
much
more
meaningful
if
they
have
some
kind
of
context
that
we
can
give
them
some
indication
of
what
types
of
building
we're
looking
for
and
so
I.
That's.
Why
I
think
it's
premature
to
sort
of
say
to
the
developer
world
tell
us
tell
us
how
wonderful
you
are
I'd,
rather
give
them
a
framework
to
be
responding
to
thank.
L
F
L
A
I
All
right
good
evening
when
reviewing
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee
agenda,
I
found
item
pd-1
discussion
of
City
Code,
section
6-7
for
municipal
use
exemption,
so
I
went
to
the
city
code
and
looked
up
six
seven
four.
It
is
important
important
to
note
that
municipal
use
exemption
in
the
city
code,
states
quote:
city
council
may
approve
buildings
and
structures
owned
and
operated
by
the
city
that
do
not
comply
with
all
of
the
requirements
of
the
underlying
district.
Unquote,
Thank
You,
alderman
druh
Simmons.
I
For
bringing
this
item
to
the
attention
of
City
Council
I
agree
with
you.
It
might
be
best
to
establish
a
public
process
around
zoning
review
and
to
establish
a
public
noticing
requirement.
It
is
also
a
good
idea
to
require
public
community
meeting
beyond
the
dabber
meetings,
but
after
some
further
reflection,
this
municipal
use
exemption
looks
like
to
me.
This
could
be
a
good
way
around
rezoning
the
library
parking
lot.
If
the
city
proper
property
is
developed,
tricity
use.
I
We
all
know
that
the
city
is
looking
to
get
office
space
downtown
on
the
library
parking
lot,
so
I
want
to
know
with
--zs
associates,
going
to
be
the
tenant
of
the
planned
development
for
the
library
parking
lot.
After
some
research
I
found,
the
presentation
from
zs
associates
that
the
city
had
online
on
slide.
Nine
of
this
presentation
from
January
28
2015,
graham
Webster
chief
financial
officer
of
zs
associates,
presented
to
the
city
of
Evanston
that
zs
associates
wanted
to
build
on
the
library
parking
lot.
The
city
of
Evanston
has
given
zs
associates.
I
The
royal
treatment
before
the
Evanston
roundtable
in
2015,
reported
quote
in
total
zest
associates
asked
for
$750,000
in
assistance
from
the
city
as
an
incentive
to
keep
its
headquarters
in
325
employees
in
Evanston.
City
Council
also
passed
two
resolutions:
favoring
Z
s,
associates
resolution,
19,
R
15
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
negotiate
and
execute
a
forgivable
loan
agreement
with
Z
s,
associates
resolution
10
R
15
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
negotiate
a
motel.
A
hotel-motel
tax
sharing
agreement
with
zs
associates
with
all
the
crazy
ideas
brought
before
the
City
Council.
I
G
The
question
I
want
to
raise
I,
don't
have
the
same
questions
about
municipal
I.
Don't
have
the
same
question
about
the
municipal
exemption
that
has
just
been
raised
because
of
the
succeeding
sentence
which
she
did
not
mention,
which
says
that
they
do.
They
may
have
this
non-compliance
if
they
are
necessary
for
the
provision
of
desired
city
services
and
if
the
adverse
impact
on
surrounding
properties
resulting
from
such
non-compliance
is
minimized.
G
The
question
I
want
to
raise
is:
why
is
this
item
on
the
agenda
at
all?
What
has
prompted
the
staff
to
seek
direction?
Whether
continued
use
of
municipal
use
exemption
for
its
projects
in
city-owned
land
should
be
reviewed
by
the
zoning
committee
of
the
plan
commission
unless
they're
thinking
about
narrowing
this
exception?
G
Excuse
me,
by
its
terms,
only
dapper
and
not
the
planned
Commission
reviews
for
adverse
and
proposes
mitigation,
and
perhaps
that's
a
reason
for
considering
this
I
gathered
from
what
I
heard
as
a
permitted
use
any
building
or
structure
to
be
used
for
city
services
may,
but
does
not
have
to
notify
neighbors
or
hold
any
public
hearing
beyond
the
dapper
hearing.
So
again,
that
might
be
a
reason
for
considering
this.
In
other
words,
the
city's
ability
to
provide
city
services
for
properties
they
own
in
a
manner
they
wish
is
very
lightly
controlled.
G
Excuse
me,
my
research
yesterday
and
today,
while
I
was
sitting
waiting
to
be
called
as
a
juror
and
never
called
demonstrated.
The
dev
Evanston's
municipal
use
exemption
is
broader
and
actually
requires
less
review
than
comparable
provisions
and
the
zoning
codes
of
will
met
or
Chicago
or
Philadelphia,
or
any
other
zoning
code
that
I
looked
at
other
than
one
in
Massachusetts.
Different
approaches
to
the
use
of
municipal
properties
tend
to
limit
not
to
expand
municipal
powers
to
contravene
a
business.
G
Pallies
zoning
laws,
I
might
say
with
regard
to
will
Matt,
particularly
having
heard
about
alderman
Simmons
comment
that
well
Matt
makes
municipal
use
a
special
use.
The
presumption
goes
15
seconds.
This
presumption
goes
with
the
city,
but
it
does
therefore
require
the
notice
requirements
that
you
were
apparently
addressing.
An
examination
of
a
published
list
of
city-owned
land
reveals
very
few
parcels
on
which
structures
could
be
built.
Thank.
A
There
were
some
notice
that
would
have
normally
happened.
That
didn't
happen
in
this
case,
although
I
was
very
intentional
about
public
meetings
and
even
a
field
trip
to
a
similar
pumping
station
and
visiting
the
most
immediate
neighbors
block
clubs,
and
it
wasn't
compliant
with
what
we
do
in
most
cases.
A
J
You
covered
almost
all
of
it,
so
thinking
thanks
for
the
reference.
Obviously,
there
were
a
lot
of
people
concerned
and
an
upset
understandably
about
about
process,
despite
the
fact
that
you
know
we
follow
a
process,
but
it
doesn't
it's
not
to
say
that
we
can't
improve
on
the
process,
so
I
think,
certainly
in
circumstances
like
this,
where
we
are
going
to
make
a
significant
infrastructure
investment
that
we
should
have
a
much
more
robust
with
note
notification
process
and
and
not
put
so
much
of
the
burden
on
an
individual,
Ottoman
or
individual
members
of
the
community.
A
You,
and
so
just
had
definitely
library
parking
lot
was
not,
on
my
mind,
zes
whoever
was
mentioned
just
thinking
about
my
neighbors
that
are
didn't
feel
heard,
didn't
feel
included,
and
this
is
a
way
that
we
can
prevent
this
from
happening
in
the
future.
If
we
can
get
some
sort
of
amendment
to
this
code,
Ottoman
rebel.
H
Well,
I
support
you
Ottoman
rule
Simmons
in
this
I
think
this
is
very
much
in
line
with
the
environmental
justice
resolution
or
ordinance
that
might
come
to
us
eventually,
which
includes
an
opportunity
for
meaningful
public
involvement
in
decisions
that
might
affect
them,
and
so
I
think
by
adding
some
kind
of
a
public
notice
and
public
engagement
mechanism
to
our
municipal
use
exemption
would
be
a
very
healthy
thing
for
the
community.
Thank.