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B
Evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
Sean
Jones
I
represent
Sheridan
VF,
Inc
property
owner
of
52:20
650
Sheridan.
My
client
is
here:
if
there
are
any
questions
that
you
may
have
for
my
client
directly
I'm
happy
to
bring
him
forward.
I
am
here
seeking
zoning
relief,
but
what
we
really
want
is
just
to
keep
things
the
way
they
were
when
my
client
purchased
the
property,
which
is
a
curb
cut
in
front
and
a
garage
and
back.
B
This
has
been
an
unfortunate
series
of
circumstances
that
having
to
do
with
timing
of
the
issue
in
that
my
client
had
to
take
steps
to
split
this
pen
and
get
utilities
hooked
up
as
soon
as
possible.
Because
of
this
Sheridan
road
repaving
projects,
it
had
to
be
done
right
away
and
we
were
scrambling
like
crazy.
He
was
scrambling
like
crazy
to
work
with
the
city
to
get
this
split
pen
to
take
care
of
that
before
the
Sheridan
Road
project
got
underway,
because,
once
that
happens,
we
can't
tear
it
up
and
utility
Connect
utilities
again.
B
So
we
had
to
do
it
that
way
we
had
to
split
the
pen.
First,
that's
really
what's
caused
the
problem
here.
If
my
client
had
purchased
a
property
and
built
a
house
and
then
split
the
pen
and
built
a
second
house,
there
would
be
no
issue
at
all.
With
its
curb
cut,
the
curb
cut
would
remain
all
we're.
Seeking
is
exactly
what
was
there
before
we
had
a
curb
cut
up
front
and
a
driveway,
and
him
back.
There
was
a
garage.
B
My
client
was
frankly
very,
very
surprised
when,
after
purchasing
this
property,
he
drives
up
and
sees
that
the
curb
cut
has
been
paved
over
the
reason
the
curb
cut
was
paved
over
apparently,
and
the
email
that
I
passed
out
to
you
is
because
city
staff
had
a
neighbor
standing
out.
There
told
the
contractor
just
covered
over
because
he's
gonna
put
it
back
in
a
different
place
anyway,.
B
Well,
he
was
maybe
he
wanted
to
put
it
in
a
different
place,
but
that
wasn't
the
plan
necessarily
and
now
he
does.
He
is
willing
and
able
and
would
actually
prefer
to
put
it
in
a
slightly
different
place.
But
as
the
email
sets
forth,
everybody
expected
the
curb
cut
to
come
back
even
when
the
contractor
covered
it
over
and
you've
got
the
email.
You
got
the
pictures
how
it's
been
covered
over
as
part
of
the
project.
B
We're
just
here
trying
to
again
keep
the
curb
cut.
That
was
already
there
we're
not
seeking
to
add
an
additional
curb
cut,
we're
actually
interested
in
keeping
this
one
and
maybe
shrinking
it.
It
will
be
smaller,
not
as
wide
as
the
current
curb
cut
or
what
was
there.
You
can
still
see
the
driveway
so
we're
here,
I'm
asking
for
this
zoning
relief
to
allow
a
curb
cut
upfront,
I
think
it
is.
According
to
code,
the
code
says:
if
property
is
improved
with
an
existing
curb
cut,
the
curb
cut
can
remain
that's
what
the
code
says.
B
Now
the
city
takes
the
position
that
as
soon
as
there's
a
demolition,
even
if
there's
a
new
plan
for
a
new
house
as
soon
as
there's
a
demolition
that
instantaneously
renders
the
property
unimproved
and
then
you
start
from
scratch.
I,
don't
believe,
that's
a
proper
interpretation
of
the
law.
The
property
is
improved.
It
has
a
curb
cut.
It
allowed
for
offs
for
a
street
parking
from
the
curb
things
have
gotten
even
worse.
In
demolishing
this
property,
my
client
was
told
by
the
city
that
he's
not
even
allowed
to
bring
equipment
over
the
curb.
B
He
had
to
pull
a
special
permit
to
be
able
to
do
that.
This.
This
has
just
been
trouble
from
the
start
and
I
I
wish
there
was
I
wish.
We
could
go
back
and
I
guess
start
over
on
this,
and
at
least
ask
for
his
input
when
the
city
is
covering
over
with
concrete
property
owners
curb
cut.
But
that
didn't
happen,
and
here
we
are
today
forced
to
seek
zoning
relief
in
order
to
get
what
was
already
there
just
keep
things
exactly
the
way.
They
are
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
A
So
p1
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
and
staff
recommend
an
isle
of
ordinance.
64,
oh
19,
authorizing
a
major
variance
to
establish
the
curb
cut
and
driveway
from
the
street
frontage
Sheridan
Road
on
a
newly
subdivided
property
with
alley
access
in
the
r-1
single-family
residential
district.
The
property
currently
features
a
single-family
residence
with
the
curb
cut
and
driveway
from
the
street
frontage.
The
existing
single-family
residence
will
be
demolished
and
a
new
residence
will
be
constructed.
The
proposal
does
not
meet
the
standard
for
variants.
A
Specifically,
the
proposal
is
not
keeping
with
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance
does
not
have
a
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
peculiar
to
the
property
is
based
upon
a
desire
to
extract
additional
income
from
the
property
and
is
not
limited
to
the
minimum
change
necessaries
for
introduction.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
this
automated
Ravel.
C
Well,
I
agree
with
mr.
Jones
that
it's
a
whole
lot
of
unfortunate
events,
kind
of
coming
all
together
here,
but
I'm
just
to
kind
of
review.
The
history
the
applicant
for
the
subdivision,
which
was
the
previous
owner,
was
made
aware
at
the
time
of
the
subdivision
that
alle
excess
would
be
required
for
the
new
homes,
and
it
was
clear
at
the
time
of
the
subdivision
that
the
existing
house
was
going
to
have
to
be
demolished
because
it
really
straddled
the
to
what
would
be
become.
C
The
two
new
Lots
and
the
surveyor
in
February
of
2018
submitted
a
preliminary
site
plan
for
the
subdivision
on
behalf
of
the
property
owner
at
the
time,
and
it
showed
detached
garages
with
alley
access
for
both
properties.
So
that
was
the
understanding
at
the
at
the
time
that
we
were
talking
with
the
previous
owner,
and
it's
obviously
unfortunate
that
this
information
was
not
conveyed
to
the
current
owner.
The
house
has
now
been
demolished
and
I'm
I'm
sorry
to
hear
that
we're
even
penalizing
you
for
demolish.
C
C
It's
it
just
seems
to
me:
it's
not
a
difficult
alley
to
navigate,
not
difficult
to
get
in
and
out
of
what
would
be
garage
on
the
back
and
then
also
I,
guess,
I
am
concerned
as
the
alderman
about
precedent.
I
did
have
another
homeowner
at
the
very
north
towards
the
very
north
end
of
the
block,
who
asked
to
have
a
curb
cut
and
a
parking
pad
put
in
front
of
her
house,
and
we
declined
to
to
do
that.
C
We
talked
with
her
extensively
about
making
better
use
of
the
parking
pad
off
of
her
alley
and
that's
what
she's
doing
now
without
needing
to
have
that
curb
cut
so
I
I
do
worry
about
additional
property
owners,
particularly
on
Sheridan
Road,
wanting
to
ask
for
a
curb
cut
and
a
driveway
or
something
across
the
public.
Sidewalk.
D
D
D
You
know
I,
you
know
I
understand,
you
know
this
is
I,
feel
like
this
kind
of
falls
into
the
category
of
form
over
substance,
and
you
know
it
probably
shouldn't
have
been.
You
know
they
probably
shouldn't
use
those
forms
in
the
first
instance.
So
you
know
the
driveway
was
there.
It
almost
seems
like
it
was
a
mistake
and
because
of
the
yeah
I,
don't
know
the
mistakes
right
word,
but
not
the
intention
and
then
because
of
the
something
that
was
done
without
intent.
Now
you're,
you
know
kind
of
suffering.
D
B
I
should
have
referenced.
This
is
EBA
struggled
with
this
a
good
bit
and
you
will
see
in
their
recommendation
that
several
of
them
were
leaning
toward
granting,
but
the
the
strict
again
form
over
substrate
interpretation.
Subject:
interpretation
they
couldn't,
but
he
would
have
a
three
point
turn
around.
So
you
would
come
out
forward
and
that's
a
requirement
that
we're
happy
to
comply
with
and.
D
D
D
E
C
Just
to
go
back
to
the
house
immediately
to
the
north
that
did
get
approval
to
put
a
second
curb
cut
in
there.
There
coach-house
on
the
alley,
has
no
access
from
the
alley.
It's
a
it's
a
access
from
the
Sheridan
Road
driveway.
So
they
did,
they
didn't
have
an
option
of
using
a
garage
from
the
alley.
A
F
Okay
good
evening,
I
just
wanted
to
sue
Lola,
Bach
I'm,
with
connections
for
the
homeless
and
joining
forces
for
affordable
housing.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
we
hope
that
you
will
recommend
approval
of
p2.
We
feel
that
the
changes
to
the
inclusionary
zoning
and
the
zoning
ordinances
that
are
related
to
it
here
are
really
increasing
the
possibility
for
inclusionary
zoning
to
really
make
a
difference
and
results
in
more
affordable
units.
It's
really
going
in
the
right
direction
and
we
hope
you
will
support
it.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
sue.
F
A
A
P3
we
have
no
public
comment.
Petrey
staff
recommends
adoption
of
ordinance
6500
19
to
extend
the
time
for
commencement
of
construction
of
the
planned
development
at
101
28
through
132
Chicago
Avenue,
originally
approved
on
June
26
2008
een.
The
ordinance
would
grant
a
one-year
extension
for
building
permit
issuance
to
June
24
2020.
This
is
her
introduction.
G
G
G
They
need
to
have
this
extension
approved
and
they
have
no
intentions
of
dragging
this
out
a
whole
year.
But
since
the
first
thing
ends
on
June
30th,
they
need
that
extension
now.
So
if
you
will,
please
approve
suspension
of
the
rules,
so
we
can
take
action
on
that,
so
they
can
move
ahead
with
the
two
additional
units.
That
would
be
great.
Thank
you
not.
G
F
D
I
A
J
K
Good
evening
at
first,
this
item
seems
to
be
yet
another
solution
in
search
of
a
problem,
but
after
some
research
it
becomes
clear
for
why
this
is
being
proposed.
Ted
Rosenbaum,
a
former
resident
of
Evanston
who
currently
lives
in
Melbourne
Australia,
sent
a
letter
on
April
2nd
to
the
mayor
and
members
of
the
Evanston
City
Council.
It
appears
as
a
result
of
this
letter,
alderwoman
Fisk
submitted
a
formal
proposal
for
a
pilot
to
evaluate
the
temporary
closure
of
Elgin
Road
between
Emerson,
Street
and
or
inton
Avenue
from
mr.
K
K
For
the
reasoning
behind
this
proposal,
what
might
appear
as
a
road
closure
becomes
a
bigger
project
which
will
affect
everyone
in
the
city
in
ways
that
you
may
not
have
considered
or
want
heaven
stone
Ian's
to
know
about
what
are
your
future
plans?
Are
you
planning
on
selling
the
Lorraine
H
Morton
Civic
Center
in
building
a
new
Civic
Center?
Well,
the
current
Civic
Center
be
threatened
with
demolition.
Again.
K
K
Is
it
prudent
for
the
city
to
issue
another
bond
sale,
but
it's
also
clear
to
important
to
understand
that
is
common
for
cities
to
issue
municipal
bonds,
to
raise
capital
to
fund
a
special
project,
but
remember
that
the
interest
owned
to
lent
lenders
is
paid
by
taxes
levied
on
the
community
benefiting
from
the
particular
bond
funded
project.
Some
residents
will
be
paying
a
disproportionately
higher
increase
in
taxes
in
terms
of
income.
As
says,
Ed's
has
been
previously
presented.
K
L
Pleasure
thank
you
for
having
me
here
tonight.
My
name
is
Julie.
Workman
apologies
for
my
terrible
handwriting
on
the
sign-in
sheet,
I'm,
an
attorney
at
Levin
Feld
Pearlstein
in
Chicago.
Our
firm
represents
the
condominium
association
for
800
elgin
and
the
property
management
of
the
building
at
that
location.
The
board
and
the
property
manager
of
the
building
asked
me
to
be
here
tonight
to
express
their
concerns
regarding
the
proposed
pilot
program
to
evaluate
the
closure
of
Elgin
Road
Emerson
and
oaring
ttan.
As
you
know,
800
Elgin
is
a
16
story.
L
L
Approximately
50%
of
the
population
is
students,
many
of
whom
are
Kellogg
MBA
students
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
them.
In
a
moment,
families
singles
empty
nesters
and
a
significant
elderly
population,
and
essentially
a
very
broad
swath
of
of
of
individuals
in
the
building.
As
you
know,
primary
pedestrian
and
vehicular
access
to
this
building
is
via
its
front
entry
on
Elgin
Road,
which
is
between
Sherman
and
Benson.
L
Emergency
vehicles,
delivery
vehicles,
moving
trucks,
all
access,
the
building
from
Elgin
Road,
the
building
receives
over
200
packages.
Every
day
there
are
food
deliveries,
grocery
deliveries,
rideshares
all
of
these
occur
via
the
access
to
the
main
and
via
access
to
the
main
entry
on
Elgin
Road
I
mentioned
the
students
earlier
about
half
of
the
students
of
excuse
me,
the
building's
population
is
comprised
of
students.
The
proposed
pilot
closure
of
Elgin
Road
is
intended
was
proposed
for
July
in
August
of
this
year.
L
July
and
August,
as
you
can
imagine,
is
the
prime
time
for
moving
students
in
and
out
of
housing
for
Northwestern
I'm
told
by
the
property
manager
that
between
July
and
August,
every
single
weekday
from
8
a.m.
to
4
p.m.
the
building
is
booked
solid
with
with
students
moving
in
and
out
and
the
moving
trucks
access
the
building
from
Elgin
Road.
It
should
be
fairly
obvious.
I
think
that
this
proposal
has
the
potential
to
very
seriously
and
materially
adversely
affect
the
access
of
our
owners.
L
Our
residents
and
our
guests,
800
Elgin,
the
sheer
volume
of
traffic
into
and
out
of
the
property
that
would
need
to
be
rerouted,
is
in
and
of
itself
questionable,
and
it
makes
you
question
the
wisdom
of
this
proposal.
The
proposal
would
effectively
eliminate
the
delivery
and
pick
up
points
for
people
and
packages
at
800.
Elgin
I
will
acknowledge
that
the
board
and
the
property
manager
are
in
favor
of
evaluating
improvements
to
pedestrian
and
vehicular
safety
on
Elton
Road.
L
The
property
manager
told
me
just
today
that
she
was
looking
out
her
window
at
somebody
trying
to
dart
traffic
on
Elgin,
Road
and
climbing
over
a
bumpy
median
to
get
to
the
other
side
of
the
street.
Obviously
not
a
safe
thing
to
do,
and
perhaps
there
are
improvements
that
could
be
made
to
improve
safety
there,
but
those
improvements
cannot
and
should
not
be
imposed
in
a
vacuum.
L
Change
should
not
be
made
impulsively
and
without
considering
the
impact
on
property
owners
in
the
vicinity
in
order
to
move
forward
with
any
modification
of
traffic
or
pedestrian
patterns
on
Elgin
Road.
A
full
traffic
study
and
feasibility
studies
should
be
performed
prior
to
any
of
those
modifications,
including
and
ten.
A
L
Especially
closures,
the
building
absolutely
needs
to
maintain
in
total
access
for
its
owners
and
residents.
Any
reduction
of
their
access
would
result
in
a
taking
of
their
property,
which
would
violate
both
their
federal
and
state
constitutional
right
against
having
property
taken
without
due
compensation.
Thank.
F
M
Good
evening
my
name
is
Carol
bass,
I'm,
a
member
of
the
downtown
Evanston
Board
and
I'm.
The
president
of
the
condo
association
at
Optima,
Horizons
residence
building
at
800,
Belgian,
Road
Optima
horizons
is
a
great
place
to
live.
We're
well
managed.
We
have
a
wonderful
mix
of
residents
were
considered
the
friendliest
residents
in
downtown
Evanston,
and
we
have
just
astonishing
views.
Our
residents
and
our
board
were
surprised
today
to
learn
that
the
street
that
our
entrance
faces,
Elgin
Road,
will
possibly
be
closed
for
several
weeks
this
summer
and
may
be
closed
permanently.
M
We
were
surprised
because
no
one
from
the
city,
not
our
mayor,
not
our
aldermen-
contacted
our
board
or
our
manager,
nor
any
of
our
residents.
I
was
astonished
to
find
that
closing
our
street
was
to
be
the
major
discussion
item
at
this
council
meeting
and
none
of
us
were
ever
notified
on
behalf
of
my
fellow
residents.
I
am
insulted
at
the
disrespect
that
we
have
been
shown.
The
letter
that
was
referenced
earlier
was
sent
on
April,
2nd
I
presume
that
that
the
council
got
it
during
April.
Why
have
has
no
one
mentioned
anything
to
us?
M
I
was
intrigued
with
the
letter
that
this
council
received
in
April
from
Ted
Rosenbaum,
a
former
Evanston
resident,
who
explained
that
he
can't
be
here
tonight
because
he
lives
in
Melbourne
Australia.
His
report
is
I
understand
the
basis
for
the
closing
of
Elgin
Road
I
was
surprised
in
reading
mr.
Olson
bones
report,
which
states
and
I
quote.
Despite
existing
for
50
years,
no
development
has
taken
place
along
Elgin
Road,
which
interacts
with
the
street
along
the
entire
half
mile
stretch
of
road.
M
The
only
building
that
faces
Elgin
Road
in
a
meaningful
way
is
North
Western
School
of
Music,
which
all
of
us
know.
It's
not
existed
there.
For
the
last
three
four
years,
the
nearly
500
resin
800
Elgin
Road,
are
more
than
mildly
surprised,
to
have
our
building
characterized
by
omission
as
having
no
meaningful
interaction
with
Elgin
road.
Our
building
is
a
block
long,
it's
16
stories
tall.
It
is
a
presence.
M
M
M
O
Miss
Michael
Miller
I
own,
a
condo
in
800,
Elgin,
Road
and
I
never
received
a
notice
before
this
morning
that
came
from
the
manager
of
the
building.
I
am
on
the
board.
I
would
expect
it
to
least
got
something
before
this
time.
Second,
I'm
just
curious.
If
this
committee
has
done
any
Studies
on
the
effect
of
closing
Elgin
Road
and
the
effect
it
will
have
on
the
property
taxes
of
the
building,
because
in
my
full-time
job,
I'm
in
the
appraisal,
business
and
I.
O
Didn't
think
about
it
till
this
morning,
but
if
Elgin
Road
is
closed
and
we
have
no
fire
in
a
police
and
ambulances
being
able
to
use
Elgin
Road,
it
decreases
the
value
of
the
property.
In
my
mind
at
least
fifty
percent.
We
pay
in
total,
roughly
twenty
million
dollars
in
taxes
that
would
affect
the
budget
of
Evanston
the
city
of
Evanston
by
roughly
ten
million
dollars.
I
have
nothing
mentioned
in
any
of
the
information
sketchy
information
that
I
received
and
I
look
over
at
mrs.
Miss,
Fiske
and
she's
smiling
that
she's
happy
about
this.
O
P
Name
is
Claire
cammer
and
I
come
to
you
today
to
speak
as
a
resident
of
Optima
horizons.
Today
our
address
is
800
Elgin
Road,
but
under
the
proposed
closure
of
Elgin
Road
by
Councilwoman
Fisk,
my
home
and
the
safety
are
at
risk.
The
heart
of
the
Optima
horizons
community
is
anchored
on
Elgin
Road,
everything
from
our
mailboxes
to
our
staff.
Access
from
this
entrance
by
design,
there
is
no
other
public
access
to
these
central
resources
via
any
other
Road.
P
I
repeat
that
there
is
no
access
via
any
other
Road
to
the
central
lobby
of
our
building.
Visitor
access
was
routed
here
for
the
safety
of
our
residents.
The
study
circulated
by
mr.
Ted
Rosenbaum
misses
the
fact
that
246
residential
units
face
Elgin
Road,
a
glaring
error
and
evidence
that
this
proposal
was
drafted,
half
a
world
away,
forgetting
this
fact
and
the
hundred
of
lives
affected,
causes
you
to
miss
one
of
the
most
critical
issues
in
the
proposal
safety.
P
The
proposed
closure
would
eliminate
access
for
fire
and
ambulatory
access
to
our
building,
forcing
first
responders
to
access
units
from
a
block
away
on
the
other
side
of
the
proposed
park
or
through
a
gated
parking
garage
to
which
fire
trucks
and
ambulances
could
not
access.
This
exposes
myself
and
my
neighbors
to
dangerous
delays
in
response.
This
is
further
burdened
by
the
location
of
the
building
fire
panel.
The
panel
serves
as
a
critical
interface
for
responders
for
incident
management.
P
This
is
even
more
dangerous
with
the
proposed
July
August
trial.
This
is
days
away.
It
allows
no
time
for
our
city
to
consider
safety
implications,
build
out
alternative
processes
or
bypass
routes,
educate
associated
first
responders,
develop
signage,
to
reroute
pedestrian
traffic
and
on
and
on.
Even
as
all
of
this,
you
can
expect
confusion
and
delays.
Contractors,
home
health
care,
aides,
delivery,
drivers
and
others
who
support
our
building
and
our
residents
would
have
access
cut
off
long
term.
Solutions
aren't
much
better
retrofitting.
Our
building
to
support
other
access
points
would
caught
be
costly
and
burdensome.
P
It
would
require
completely
reconfiguring
our
first
floor,
including
moving
boilers
and
industrial
equipment,
as
well
as
fire
and
industrial
fire
and
security
systems
at
a
cost
of
millions
of
dollars.
This
proposal
is
flawed
and
the
recommended
pilot
to
just
throw
up
some
barricades
to
see
what
happens
in
the
next
months
is
ridiculous.
The
plan
is
not
built
two
unsound
fact:
it
has
no
defined
goals
or
milestones
for
what
is
intended
to
be
achieved
in
this
pilot,
ignores
community
engagement
and
implications
for
Evanston
businesses
and
restaurants.
P
I
applaud
the
city's
commitment
to
carbon
reduction
in
optimizing
design
for
walkability
I
support
this
vision,
but
don't
believe
it
can
be
achieved
with
this
plan.
Additional
bike
paths
and
measures
to
conserve
safe
pedestrian
practices
in
this
section
are
ones
I
would
consider,
but
eliminating
Elgin
road
is
not
roads
are
more
than
residential
traffic.
They
Devine.
Thank
you.
Q
The
way
this
information
was
rolled
out,
whether
intentionally
or
not,
has
I
think
caused
a
lot
of
problems
and
a
lot
of
stress
when
I
first
read
about
this
yesterday
in
the
newspaper
I
said
close
Elgin
Road.
What
where's
all
that
traffic
going
to
go.
The
truck
traffic
is
one
thing.
The
vehicle
traffic
is
another
I
would
say
walking
and
driving
along
those
intersections
quite
regularly.
I
would
see
a
lot
of
traffic.
Q
Staying
on
Emerson
wrote
to
Sherman
and
actually
going
through
the
two
blocks
of
Northwestern
to
Sheridan,
which
I
don't
think
northwestern
is
going
to
like
very
much,
but
neither
will
the
drivers
because
there's
traffic
coming
in
that
area.
The
truck
issue
is
a
big
one
that
needs
to
be
taken
care
of.
So
today,
I
read
mr.
Rosenbaum
letter
and
some
of
the
things
mr.
Rosenbaum
says
are
interesting.
He's
proposing
a
number
of
public
benefits
from
closing
a
road
that,
in
some
ways,
might
be
too
big
and
too
busy
for
what
we
really
need.
Q
But
what
I
find
myself
asking
is:
what
is
the
and
vision
of
the
City
Council
and
of
our
government
in
a
process
like
this?
If
we
free
up
all
this
land
did
we
think
we're
going
to
use
it
for
public
benefits,
because
the
packet
doesn't
talk
about
that
at
all,
or
is
there
any
kind
of
vision
at
all
our
public
process?
For
it,
one
vision,
I,
would
not
be
supportive
of
is
abandoning
Elgin
Road
and
attaching
that
land
to
private
parcels
for
private
development
of
more
high-rises.
Q
Q
So
why
do
the
pilot
now
the
duration
seems
way
too
long
one
month,
especially
during
all
these
busy
times
so
I'm
left
concluding
since
I've
seen
a
lot
of
development
around
where
I
live
recently
and
more
of
it
even
14
seconds
that
we
had
once
heard
about
a
potential
plan
for
the
North
downtown.
It
never
came
to
fruition
and
I
highly
urge
that
would
go
back
to
that
thought
of
a
community
planning
process
for
a
plan
for
North
downtown
Thank
You.
R
You
I'm
also
at
800,
Elgin,
Road
and
I'm
gonna,
be
short
on
this
I
feel
like
you're
very
kidding
my
Maya,
my
condo,
that
I've
been
here.
I
was
the
second
one
to
move
in
19
years
ago
and
when
I
saw
this
this
morning
that
you're
just
going
to
go
ahead
and
barricade
our
main
access
into
the
building.
You're
gonna
kill
property
value
you're.
All
the
health,
health
and
uber
I
take
over
I
dive,
so
I
sold
them
drive,
take
uber
lyft
to
get
around
I
go.
R
A
S
Grammar
school
I'm,
not
gonna,
say
much
because
the
people
that
preceded
me
really
did
a
nice
job
of
explaining
what
the
problems
are,
particularly
the
access
of
fire
trucks
and
police
vehicles
that
come
down.
Elgyn
I,
don't
know
what
would
happen,
how
they
could
come
in
so
Roy's
that
I'm
much
smaller
and
the
access
is
worse.
So
I
just
want
to
emphasize
what
they
did
before
me
and
I.
Think
it's
a
bad
idea
and
I
think
the
pilots
closing
is
also
a
bad
idea
and
the
timing
is
terrible.
Thank.
I
I'm
Gail,
Miller
and
I
live
at
800,
Elgin,
Road
and
just
to
to
go
along
with
what
Jim
said.
I
think
many
of
our
residents
have
eloquently,
given
all
the
reasons
why
this
is
a
bad
idea
and
I
just
want
to
add
that
I'm
just
incredulous
that
we
live
in
Evanston,
a
a
city
that
we
all
prize
ourselves
as
being
one
educator,
dwell
informed
that
our
representative
would
buy
into
a
plan
so
full
of
flaws
and
errors.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
E
E
So
I'm
asking
you
to
really
think
about
this,
because
you're
really
disadvantaging
some
people
who
have
moved
into
downtown
Avastin,
primarily
because
of
the
convenience
that
it
provides
for
the
elderly
and
the
disadvantaged
people
and
for
those
reason,
I'm
asking
that
you
reconsider
and
disapprove
this
project.
Thank.
T
I'm
totally
shocked
at
the
lack
of
communication
at
the
ignorance
when
it
comes
to
planning
or
thinking
about
what
we
can
do
in
order
to
have
the
city
function
properly.
I'm
shocked
that
some
person
outside
of
the
city
is
influencing
the
city
at
a
distance,
not
knowing
what
is
currently
going
on,
and
as
a
76
year
old
man
married
to
a
75
year
old
woman
for
51
years.
T
We
chose
to
move
into
this
place
because
of
its
many
ease
of
acts,
issues
not
the
least
of
which
you
should
know,
though
you
probably
don't
that
on
the
elgin
road
entrance,
there
are
two
elevators
at
the
Clark
Street
side,
there's
one
elevator
during
moving
time,
which
actually
is
probably
most
of
the
year,
but
most
definitely
significantly
during
the
May
June
July
August
September
time
there
is
one
elevator
on
each
side
that
will
be
used
for
moving.
Typically,
so
the
elevator
on
the
south
side
gets
busy.
T
That
means
many
of
us
are
using
the
elevator
on
the
north
side.
It
would
be
horrible
to
go
to
the
elevator
on
the
north
side
go
down
and
as
an
elderly
person,
then
have
to
walk
over
to
Benson
Avenue
when
you
could
just
get
there
with
the
south
elevator,
and
it
would
be
fine.
But
what
I'm
really
concerned
about
is
a
lawsuit
to
the
city
of
Evanston
with
regard
to
citizens
with
disabilities
and
you're,
ignoring
that
by
blocking
off
Elgin
Road
and
blocking
ease
of
access,
emergency
vehicles,
deliveries
and
pickups
for
people
with
disabilities.
T
We
may
only
have
fifty
percent
of
our
population
at
eight
hundred
elegent
that
our
Elgin,
that
our
elderly
I
include
myself
in
that
I'm,
pretty
physically
adept.
In
fact,
I
ride
my
bike
on
Elgin
Road
to
Sheridan,
Road
and
then
up
Sheridan
Road.
Now
that
you
have
a
bike
path
there
and
could
easily
put
one
on
Elgin
Road
for
bikers
and
you
could
improve
the
pedestrian
walkways
with
signs
like
you
have
in
front
of
jewel
on
Chicago
Avenue
that
tell
people
to
stop
if
somebody
gets
on
the
path.
T
A
N
A
Not
necessary,
you
can
go
ahead.
Okay!
Thank
you.
That's
what
I
thought
Ottoman
Fiske
proposes
a
pilot
to
evaluate
the
temporary
closure
of
Eldon
Elgin
road
between
Emerson
Street
and
Oregon
Avenue.
The
purpose
of
this
pilot
is
to
consider
the
potential
benefits
of
restoring
the
original
Street
grid
system
at
the
northern
edge
of
downtown
business.
District
staff
seeks
further
direction
from
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee.
N
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
everybody
who
came
and
spoke
tonight.
I
had
a
long
conversation
with
Ashley
I,
don't
know
whether
Ashley
are
you
here
and
over
there.
Some
Ashley's,
not
here
tonight,
okay,
had
a
long
talk
with
Ashley
this
afternoon.
This
is
on
our
agenda
tonight
for
discussion.
N
This
is
the
earliest
moment
that
we
have
taken
to
consider
the
some
some
good
ideas
of
that
I
think
were
raised
by
former
Evanston
resident
Rosenbaum
that
addressed
some
of
the
issues
that
I
have
been
trying
to
work
with
neighborhood
residents
on
for
many
years
now.
For
those
of
you
who
read
mr.
Rosenbaum
x'
letter,
the
letter
was
divided
into
basically
two
parts,
one
he
addressed
elgin
road
and
the
second
one.
He
addressed
the
possibility
of
moving
the
civic
center
I'm
not
interested
tonight
in
talking
about
this
fix
it.
That's
not
my
purpose.
N
What
interested
me
about
the
discussion
on
Elgin
Road
were
many
conversations
that
I've
had
with
folks,
both
at
Sherman
Gardens
and
in
800
Elgin
about
problems
getting
across
Elgin
Road.
As
you
know,
the
median
on
Elgin
Road
is
rounded
at
the
top.
There's
no
easy
crossing
over
the
median
for
pedestrians,
it's
actually
an
extremely
dangerous
situation
and
I
myself
when
I
was
riding.
My
bike
was
hit
by
a
car
in
the
middle
of
the
intersection.
I
mean
Elgin.
N
Road
is
a
very
busy
street
where
people
are
going
from
point
A
to
point
B
pretty
much
as
fast
as
they
can
and
in
the
vicinity
of
Elgin
Road,
especially
between
Maple
and
Chicago
Avenue.
Would
there
have
been
several
instances
of
people
being
hit
crossing
the
street,
so
we
have
a
problem
that
I
see
for
pedestrian
safety,
all
the
way
from
Orange
and
Avenue
all
the
way
up
to
Maple
and
I
think
fairly
within
the
past
few
years.
N
N
So
all
of
these
are
just
on
the
other
side
of
Sherman
Gardens,
and
then
we
have,
as
we
said,
several
hundred
residents
of
Sherman
gardens
as
well
crossing
crossing
into
downtown.
So
our
pedestrian
traffic
in
terms
of
coming
into
the
down
on
the
north
is
going
to
increase
by
many
people.
During
my
conversation
with
Ashley
today,
I
said
that
I
I
have
always
tried
to
be
responsive
to
certainly
to
the
residents
of
Sherman
Gardens
and
800.
N
Elgin
and
I
would
never
do
or
advocate
for
anything
that
would
compromise
your
enjoyment
of
your
building
and
your
access
in
any
way.
But
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
shouldn't
work
together
to
try
to
see
if
there
isn't
a
way
to
make
that
stretch
of
road
safer,
because
it's
not
safe,
I'm,
absolutely
convinced
that
it
is
not
safe
and
in
returning
in
returning
to
the
original
grid
plan,
there
seems
to
be
a
way
to
move
traffic
around.
You
know
in
a
way
that
doesn't
directly
impact
the
safety
of
pedestrians.
N
I
would
like
our
staff
to
look
at
that,
and
that
was
really
be
the
reason
behind
my
reference
to
staff.
How
best
do
we
do
that?
Now?
We
don't
do
things
in
a
vacuum
and
I'm,
not
all
powerful,
so
I
add
in
conversation
with
staff.
It
was
recommended
that
we
bring
this
to
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee
and
that
we
talked
about
whether
this
is
even
worth
further
discussion.
N
That's
the
only
reason
we're
here
now
we're
not
here
to
advocate
closing
Elgin
Road
or
any
of
that
we
don't
have
enough
information,
so
I'm,
sorry,
if
that
has
not
been
communicated
directly
to
you,
but
that's
where
we're
at
now
we're
at
the
very
beginning
of.
Does
this
make
sense?
What
can
we
do
at
the
northern
end
of
our
downtown
to
make
it
safer
and
so
I'm
asking
my
colleagues
tonight?
N
My
understanding
is
that
we
don't
really
need
to
have
a
pilot
of
this
length
and
and
I
hear
that
you
have
move-ins
and
moves
move
out.
Maybe
that
doesn't
make
any
sense
at
all
I'm
absolute.
We
in
agreement
with
you
on
that,
but
I
would
like
to
get
some
more
information.
I.
We
have
a
big
table
here
in
Evanston.
I
mean
all
of
this.
N
If
this
isn't
going
to
be
a
win-win
for
everyone,
then
it's
not
going
to
work
and
I'm
not
going
to
support
it
if
it
isn't
a
win-win
for
everyone,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
planning
planning
starts
early
when
we
were
talking
about
Chicago
Avenue
and
the
bike
lanes
that
we've
now
received
all
so
many
awards.
For
everyone
loves
them.
Everyone
uses
them.
Everyone
is
safe,
I,
don't
think.
We've
had
an
accident
on
them
and
they're
working
really
well.
That
came.
N
They
came
to
us
in
the
first
Ward
that
bike
lane
wasn't
going
to
exist
and
it
was
through
meetings
and
through
conversations
with
residents
of
the
war
that
we
really
looked
at,
that
we
advocated
for
bike
lane
connecting
to
Northwestern
University
and
we've
ended
up
now
with
the
state
of
the
art.
Buy
claim
that
we
can
all
be
proud
of.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
conversation
that
goes
on
here,
and
this
is
not.
This
is
not
unusual.
Fountain
Square
is
another
example
of
that.
N
When
we
looked
at
the
possibility
of
building
Fountain
Square,
that
meant
creating
a
public
space
that
would
hold
hundreds
of
people,
we
didn't
have
one
in
Evanston
and
in
the
center
of
downtown.
That
was
our
vision
to
do
that.
That
meant
rerouting
traffic
around.
So
you
can
have
hundreds
of
people
in
the
middle
of
downtown
and
still
traffic
can
move
around
it.
N
That
was
a
huge
discussion
and
we
involved
not
only
the
first
word
with
the
4th
Ward
and
all
the
condominium
owners
that
lived
around
there
and
that
took
us
what
five
years
it
took
us
a
long
time
to
do
that.
So
this
is
how
planning
takes
place
in
Evanston.
If
somebody
with
a
good
idea
comes
and
and
says,
I
have
a
good
idea
what
we
should
listen
to
it
absolutely
listen
to
it.
This
is
a
young
man
who
sent
us
a
letter
out
of
the
blue.
N
He
lives
in
Evanston,
his
parents,
so
here
they
live
in
the
sixth
Ward
he's
obviously
very
interested
in
what
goes
on
here
and
that
clicked
with
me
because
of
my
concern
about
safety
on
Elgin
Road.
So
we're
not
I,
don't
know
what
the
committee
wants
to
do.
I
mean
my
recommendation
is
that
we
ask
staff
to
give
some
thought
to
this
and
again
this.
The
studies
that
would
be
involved
would
involve
all
of
you.
N
It's
not
going
to
happen
without
all
of
you
and
at
this
point,
I'm
not
sure
that
it
would
happen
at
all,
because
these
traffic
issues
are
very
important
issues
to
us.
So
before
you
shake
your
heads
and
say
nothing,
this
is
never
going
to
happen.
We
don't
really
have
something
to
tell
you
what
it
would
even
look
like
so
I
think
it's
worth
I
think
it's
it's
worth.
N
So
that's
my
that's
my
two
cents
here
and
I
wish
Ashley
were
here
tonight,
so
she
could
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
our
conversation
this
afternoon,
because
again,
I
want
to
stress
that
I
know
a
lot
of
people
in
your
building.
I
appreciate
all
of
them.
I've
worked
hard
for
the
building
and
I
would
not
do
anything
that
would
negatively
affect
you
in
any
way.
I
think
well,
nothing.
Nothing
is
happening
so
Ottoman.
D
An
alderman
Fisk-
these
are
legitimate
concerns.
I
think.
The
one
thing
that
probably
everybody
in
the
room
could
agree
on
is
that
this
road
could
be
safer.
I,
don't
think
if
there's
anybody
who
could
take
issue
at
that
point
and
autumn
fest
talked
about
this.
This
is
a
discussion
item.
So
this
is
not
up
for
a
vote.
It's
not
up
for
approval
or
not
approval.
D
D
There
are
bad
plans,
so
you
might
have
you
know
you
vet
the
ideas
you
might
choose
to
pursue
a
bad
plan,
but
that's
why
we
go
through
this
process.
So
it's
helpful
to
have
people
come
out
and
share
their
thoughts
and
perspectives
on
it
and
and
I
do
think
it's
extremely
important
to
encourage
ideas
and
to
bring
out
this
kind
of
conversation
and
dialogue.
So
if
you
see
an
item
on
any
time
ever,
if
it's
up
for
discussion
in
one
of
our
subcommittees,
that's
the
whole
point.
D
The
point
is:
we're
soliciting
input
from
the
committee
members.
We're
gonna
be
soliciting
input
from
the
community,
but
that's
that's
kind
of
the
first
step.
It
can't
start
in
a
vacuum.
You
know
you
wouldn't
want
to
get
a
bunch
of
public
notices.
Hey
city
of
Evanston
is
gonna
close,
your
road
and
you
know
official
post
cards
and
all
of
that
stuff
because
you
know
you're
concerned
now,
but
you
would
really
panic
if
you
got
that
and
there
would
be
no
reason
to
do
that,
because
again,
the
idea
hasn't
been
vetted.
D
So
you
know
all
of
that
said.
You
know
I've
heard
what
people
have
had
to
say.
I've
looked
at
the
road
I'm
familiar
with
it
with
with
my
own
personal
use,
I,
don't
think
closing.
It
is
the
right
way
to
go,
and
but
I
am
interested
in
in
pursuing
ways
to
make
that
general
area
safer,
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
that's
something
that
could
be
done
and
assuming
that
we're
not
going
to
do
this
road
closure.
D
This
conversation
is
probably
the
first
point
that
leads
to
conversations
that
will
create
a
safer
environment
for
the
800
building.
For
the
neighborhood,
so
that's
what
we're
out
to
do
we're
out
to
make
sure
that
this
is
the
best
possible
traffic
flow
safety
and
comfort.
For
all
of
you
guys,
that's
the
point
of
it,
so
we
don't
want
to
make
it
worse.
D
U
You
well
thank
you.
I
first
I
want
to
say
to
everyone
who
came
out
I
agree
with
almost
everything
everyone
said
and
apologized.
You
should
not
have
heard
about
this,
like
you
did.
This
is
our
fault
this
this
we
really
if
we
were,
if
this
was
an
idea
that
the
council
wanted
to
entertain,
then
having
community
meetings
and
very
pointed
discussions
with
everyone
who
lives
on
elgin
road
or
would
have
been
a
much
better
idea.
U
So
I
also
think
that
obviously
thinking
about
things
and
other
other
ways
to
look
at
our
city,
especially
because
transportation
methods
are
changing,
is
really
part
of
our
job.
So
in
that
sense
we
we
should
be
looking
at
these
things
and
we
shouldn't
be
engaging
the
community
in
that
every
step
of
the
way,
and
we
try
to
do
that.
A
transportation
of
parking
all
the
time
and
to
hear
from
people
about
I
mean
we
all
know
that
scooters
are
coming,
for
instance.
U
Well,
we
need
to
be
prepared
for
that,
but
we
have
lots
of
tools
available
to
us
to
model
traffic
to
figure
out.
We
don't
need
to
shut
this
road
to
find
out.
What
would
happen
if
we
did?
We
have
modeling
computer
modeling
that
we've
had
at
the
city
for
years
to
determine,
for
instance,
years
ago
whether
we
should
have
a
left
turn
off
Ridge
Avenue,
and
we
saw
exactly
what
would
happen
on
that.
U
If
you
turned
left
onto
Dempster
coming
south,
we
didn't
need
to
close
start
doing
that
and
have
one
accident
after
another
and
backups
to
find
out.
That
was
the
case.
So
there
are
lots
of
other
ways
to
study
this
without
actually
closing
the
road
I
mean,
among
the
other
things
that
I
see
this
I.
This
is
my
route
to
the
Civic
Center
I
live
on
Hinman
Avenue,
south
of
south
of
Dempster
I
Drive
up
north
on
him
and
Avenue
I
cross
across
Clark
and
Elgin,
and
turned
north
on
Foster.
U
So
this
is
my
diagonal
route,
along
with
almost
everybody
who
lives
in
my
area
of
the
city.
If
we
close
it,
then
we
have
to
find
another
route
across
Evanston.
The
other
routes
are
Davis
filled
with
pedestrians
places
I,
don't
necessarily
want
to
go
Dempster
or
turning
north
on
Ridge
I
do
my
best
never
to
drive
on
Ridge,
because
for
the
assorted
reasons
we
all
know
this.
This
Elgin
has
been
in
place
since
by
my
calculation
57
years.
That's
one
third
of
Evanston's
history.
U
If
we're
going
to
alter
something
that
much,
we
need
a
really
significant
community
discussion
about.
What's
the
value
of
doing
that,
I
look
at
the
truck
traffic
that
would
have
to
be
rerouted
a
lot
of
it
would
come
up.
Chicago,
Avenue,
Chicago
Avenue
is
already
a
really
crowded
busy
street.
What
would
the
impact
be
there
on
Chicago,
Avenue
or
if
it
has
an
alternative
routes?
U
What
are
the
ultimate
is
the
effects
of
Chicago
of
truck
traffic
on
maple
or
Foster,
and
if
we
actually
did
read
avert
the
traffic
to
the
streets
north,
it
would
be
coming
directly
past
this
new
senior
building
on
Emerson
and
811
Emerson,
so
actually
we're
not
making
it
particularly
safer
for
pedestrians.
I
do
think
that
I
see
people
regularly
coming
across
that
that
median
we
need
to
come
up
with,
as
alderman
Fisk
said,
better
ways
for
people
to
cross.
It's
too
long
a
length
of
stretch
without
a
good
crosswalk.
U
There
that's
well
marked
and
well
policed,
but
we
don't
need
to
destroy
the
street
to
make
the
streets
safe.
What
we
need
to
do
is
look
really
seriously
about
the
pedestrian
safety
issues
and
the
traffic
slowing
issues
and
and
analyze
it
from
a
really
granular
level
and
understand
who
uses
the
street
and
all
the
different
ways
of
it's
used,
because
it's
used
lots
of
different
ways.
So
I
would
support
analyzing
it
from
safety
safety
standpoint,
but
not
closing.
It.
G
G
The
survey
of
making
Elgin
safer
and
also
with
the
the
a
the
building
on
Emerson
coming
on
line
I,
mean
I,
think
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
nuances
and
changes
happening
because
there
aren't
just
going
to
be
200
people
in
that
building.
There
there's
going
to
be
more
than
one
person
in
unit
there
and
that's
not
a
senior
building
by
the
way.
So
there's
going
to
be
lots
of
changes
taking
place
there.
N
H
N
Guess
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
is
have
a
meeting
in
the
parasol
room
and
invite
the
community
to
come
in,
and
we
would
talk
about
what
what
comments
that
we've
received
tonight
and
maybe
suggestions
about
how
to
make
and
the
area
between
maple
and
Chicago
Avenue
is
really
the
problem
as
it
starts
to
shift
right
at
a
Torrington.
And
it's
not
only
the
the
800
block.
N
N
H
So
we
will
work
to
schedule
something
of
the
parasol
room
Tinky
and
then,
if
you
would
like,
we
can
also
go
on
out
on-site
and
perhaps
do
something
on-site
now
that
isn't
a
pilot.
But
that
collects
information
and
we
could
invite
members
of
the
community
to
participate
in
that
as
well.
So
they
can
see
our
staffs
work
as
they
go
forth
and
do
those
things
right.
N
Because
there
are
lots
of
lots
of
issues
to
I
mean
you
know:
where
are
the
trucks
going?
Are
the
trucks
going
somewhere
in
Evanston
or
are
they
going
to
Chicago?
Are
they
going
somewhere
else?
How
are
they
going
to
the
University
where,
where
is
all
the
traffic
coming
and
going
in
that
in
that
neighborhood?
And
how
can
we
possibly
control
it
better
than
we
are.
V
V
Chair
members
of
the
committee
there's
a
lot
of
potential
staff
work
being
discussed
regarding
this
I
think
that
if
the
committee
is
interested
in
pursuing
this,
that
the
next
step
perhaps
could
be
the
the
single
community
meeting
that
we're
talking
about
they.
Maybe
we
come
back
to
you
before
additional
studies
are
done.
I'm
just
concerned
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
committee
is
on
the
same
page
before
we
go
too
far
into
this.
N
And
and
again
I
mean
this
is
a
problem,
that's
long-standing!
It's
and
it's
not
gonna
solve
itself.
Unless
we
actually
take
some
action,
I
mean
we
don't
want
anyone
else
to
be
injured
or
killed,
and
what
can
we
do
to
make
it
to
make
it
safer
and
ensure
everyone's
access
to
their
property
and
enjoyment
or
their
property
and
all
those
other
things
as
well
so
and.
V
After
I
think,
a
meeting
that
this
miss
Leonard
is
described,
I
think
we'll
have
a
better
sense
of
what
the
scope
of
next
steps
could
be
and
I
think
then
we
would
be
able
to
share
with
the
committee
what
we
thought
the
resources
required
would
be
to
fulfill
those
next
steps,
so
we
can
commit
to
one
meeting
then
come
back.
That
would
be
great,
so.
A
We
have
Ottoman
Rainey
and
Ottoman
Wilson
I,
just
like
to
add
that
I'm,
just
learning
that
and
I
take
that
route
when
I'm
coming
home
to
get
from
work,
but
I'm,
just
learning
that
it's
unsafe
street
and
I
would
like
us
to
prioritize
safety
before
development
and
I'm.
Only
now
hearing
about
the
concerns
just
like
with
the
library
parking
lot,
it
was
when
the
sell
of
the
lot
became
a
discussion
that
I'm
hearing
that
the
alley
is
unsafe.
So
I
just
asked
that
we
prioritize
safety
first
before
anything,
Ottoman
Rainey
did
you
have
further.
A
And
I
agree.
I,
really
appreciate
everyone
coming
out
to
comment
at
first
read
of
the
proposal.
It's
you
know,
exciting,
I'm,
all
for
innovation,
but
hearing
from
the
residents
that
would
be
impacted
in
that
visual
of
I
live
on
dodge
Avenue.
What
would
it
feel
like
to
be
barricaded
onto
Dodge
Avenue
I
appreciate
those
comments.
It's
helped
me
have
a
different
perspective
on
this.
We
have
autumn
and
Wilson.
Do
you
have
further
console.
D
N
And
I
think
after
we
heard
from
people
about
how
they
actually
use
it
and
healthcare,
and
all
all
of
this-
that's
that's
a
good
reason
not
to
have
the
pilot,
but
it
is
really
important
to
have
the
discussion
and
I'm
just
I'm
the
and
at
the
point
I
was
trying
to
make
when
I
first
started.
My
comments
was
that
young
mr.
A
Everyone,
so
an
announcement
will
go
out
with
a
date
and
an
invitation.
It
is
going
to
be
a
public
meeting
and
we
invite
everyone
to
come
and
participate.
We
have
any
communications.
I
would
like
to
ask
that
staff.
There
was
a
recommendation
by
Robert
mark
for
additional
signage
elgyn.
That's
something
that
we
could
do
just
by
directing
staff.
I've
done
it
before.
Is
that
something
that
we
could
do
just
additional
safety,
signage.