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B
B
All
the
ms
knight,
would
you
recall
the
rule.
B
Ocean
passes
so
the
next
item
of
business
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
of
the
regular
meeting
of
october
26
2020.
move
approval.
Second,
ms
knight,
and
would
you
call
the
role.
D
B
All
right
we
have
approval
of
the
minutes.
So
moving
on
to
our
next
item
is
public
comment
with
public
comment:
we're
going
to
allow
everyone,
two
minutes
to
speak,
miss
nine.
Do
we
have
many
people
signed
up.
C
Oh
yeah
looks
like
we
do
yes
and
you're
we're
taking
all
the
items
at
once
for
public
comment
right.
Is
that
the
plan?
Why
don't
we
do
that.
C
Okay,
then
your
first,
I
first
speaker
is
polycule,
followed
by
sarah
vanderwicken
and
then
bonnie
wilson.
E
Thank
you.
My
name
is
paulie
keel
and
I
live
in
ward
in
ward
6
and
I'm
making
comments
in
support
of
item
p4,
which
is
the
rezoning
of
1900
sherman
and
granting
a
special
use
permit
for
that
for
their
pub
at
that
at
that
location.
E
I
wear
three
hats.
First
of
all,
I'm
a
long-term
evanston,
rhett
resident
a
senior
citizen
now
and
I'm
certainly
proud
to
live
in
a
community
that
supports
diversity,
has
creatively
developed
its
downtown
area
and
kept
it
alive
where
other
communities
have
had
to
deal
with
shrinking
and
declining
central
areas
and
in
a
community
that
also
recognizes
the
need
for
affordable
housing,
especially
for
seniors.
E
I'm
also
a
commissioner
on
the
housing
authority
of
cook
county
board
of
directors
who
can
assure
the
community
of
hacc's
long-term
commitment
to
the
project,
its
experience
in
managing
affordable
housing
and
its
creativity
and
development
and
service
delivery.
Certainly
hacc
has
put
its
heart
and
soul
into
this
proposed
development.
E
I
also
have
a
40-year
career
in
developing
and
managing
affordable
housing,
both
in
the
private
sector
and
the
public
sector
and
the
nonprofit
sector,
and
I
know
how
difficult
it
is
to
provide
truly
mixed
income
housing,
especially
meeting
the
needs
of
those
in
the
middle.
Those
people
who
are
above
the
subsidy
eligibility
level
yet
can't
afford
to
pay
market
rent,
and
that
affects
more
seniors
than
you
than
you
would
realize.
E
This
project
actually
provides
a
much
larger
number
of
affordable
units
compared
to
almost
any
other
mixed
use,
property
that
I've
that
I've
seen
or
been
involved
with.
I
think
that
the
art,
architectural
design
actually
improves
the
corner
that
sits
in
question
and
provides
a
beautiful
entry
into
the
downtown
area
from
the
residential
area.
On
the
north,
I've
heard
comments
from
people
about
its
height
and,
frankly,
from
the
street
level.
I
don't
think
you'll
even
notice,
much
of
a
height
difference
between
the
proposed
building
and
the
two
larger
apartment
buildings
that
all
that
already
exist.
E
F
Are
you
with
us
I'm
with
you?
My
picture
is
not,
but
I'm
here,
okay,
my
name
as
you
know.
Oh
let
me
start
my
video
okay.
There
we
go
is
sarah
vanderwicken.
I
live
across
the
street,
just
south
of
the
proposed
new
building
on
sherman
and
emerson
in
the
wonderful
sherman
garden.
Cooperative
apartments.
F
Sherman
gardens
is
a
five
building
complex
next
door
to
lou.
Malnati's
was
built
in
1947
as
housing
for
veterans
with
seven
stories
and
a
massive
footprint
it
was
at.
The
time
undoubtedly
objected
to
as
not
in
keeping
with
the
neighborhood,
but
the
veterans
coming
back
from
world
war
ii
needed
housing
and
it
was
built.
F
The
primary
objection
to
this
project
appears
to
be
the
perceived
incursion
of
a
relatively
tall
building
into
a
neighborhood
that
to
the
north
is
comprised
of
shorter
buildings.
The
picture
I
get
is
of
residents
with
their
fingers
in
the
dike
protecting
against
a
flood
that
will
ruin
the
character
of
their
community.
But
what
is
that
flood?
F
F
My
community
and
my
city
value
diversity
and
prioritize
care
of
people
in
need.
We
accept,
as
with
the
reparations
ordinance
that
making
progress
in
meeting
our
social
priorities
and
goals,
may
require
citizens
to
change
some
of
their
expectations
and
assumptions
with
reparations.
It's
giving
up
the
use
of
some
otherwise
available
tax
revenue.
Here
some
may
have
to
give
up
skyline
views,
people
in
our
neighborhood
enjoy
living
within
walking
distance
of
the
l,
the
lake
and
downtown
evanston.
D
G
Ms
wilson
hi,
I'm
bonnie
wilson,
I
live
in
the
first
floor,
used
to
be
the
third
ward,
but
now
it's
the
first
award.
I
have
been
a
real
estate
agent
evanston
for
for
over
35
years
and
I'm
a
senior
real
estate
specialist,
I'm
also,
as
you
know,
the
evanston
pass
past
evanston
township
assessor.
G
I
am
a
member
of
the
joining
forces
for
affordable
housing
committee
as
a
realtor
in
evanston.
I've
seen
many
of
the
senior
clients
who
have
raised
their
children
in
evanston
and
not
being
able
to
afford
to
pay
the
rent
in
evanston
anymore.
I've
been
involved
in
affordable
housing
for
the
past
12
years.
I
was
on
the
affordable
housing
for
all
committee
with
the
ywca.
G
I
have
also
worked
closely
with
the
staff
of
cje
senior
life
and
asking
me
to
help
their
senior
clients
find
affordable
rental
apartments
in
evanston,
which
is
close
to
transport
transportation
and
shopping.
I
usually
have
to
tell
these
clients
that
there
is
not
housing
available
in
their
price
range
in
evanston
and
certainly
not
in
an
elevator
building.
G
H
Hello,
I'm
larry
donahue,
I'm
the
chair
of
evanston's
housing
and
homelessness
commission,
and
I
strongly
support
the
project
that
is
proposed
for
1900
sherman.
There
are
three
main
reasons
I
support
the
project.
First,
this
project
will
provide
a
significant
number
of
new
affordable
units
for
seniors
in
evanston
51
new
units.
H
There
is
an
acute
need
for
more
affordable
housing
in
general,
but
one
demographic
group
that
is
facing
an
especially
acute
shortage
is
seniors,
including
low-income
seniors.
We
on
the
housing
and
homelessness
commission
learned
of
this
through
a
presentation
by
the
age
friendly
evanston
task
force
to
us
back
in
january.
H
H
J
K
Good
evening,
I'm
calling
I'm
talking
on
item
p4,
1900
sherman,
although
I
might
appreciate
the
affordable
housing
aspects
of
this
project.
All
of
what
is
described
as
mitigation
relative
to
its
mass
outlined
in
the
proposal
ultimately
fails,
as
there
is
nothing
that
can
overcome
the
building
being
something
way
too
massive
and
out
of
scale
for
its
location.
K
The
developer
requests
that
the
city
approve.
Two
zoning
changes,
one
a
map,
amendment
to
change
the
zoning
from
r6
residential
to
c1a,
commercial
and
two,
then
a
special
use
of
the
c1a
to
allow
for
a
multi-family
residential
and
commercial
zone.
This
would
seem
inappropriate
what
the
developer
refers
to,
as
zoning
gymnastics
appears,
rather
to
be
just
finding
a
loophole,
exploiting
our
zoning
code
to
avoid
a
two-third
majority
vote
requirement
at
council.
K
Additionally,
how
can
we
allow
a
c1a
commercial
zoning
where
no
commercial
is
even
contemplated?
There
is
no
commercial
activity
proposed
for
this
project.
Can
a
commercial
zoning
even
be
permitted
in
such
a
case?
That
would
make
no
sense
developers
come
to
our
town
proposed
projects
that
are
way
out
of
line
with
our
zoning.
They
do
so
in
full
knowledge
of
our
zoning
requirements
and
they
expect
us
to
make
major
adjustments.
They
say
that
their
project
is
just
not
feasible
without
the
city
granting
enormous
variances.
K
It
is
not
our
job
to
make
our
zoning
conform
to
their
project.
It
is
their
job
to
make
their
project
conform
to
our
zoning,
or
do
something
else.
Evanston
is
more
than
justifiably
fed
up
with
giving
away
the
store
further.
The
developer
states
that
the
development
is
consistent
with
established
city
plans
and
development
policies
included
in
the
north
downtown
plan.
K
Nor
should
this
project
ignore
is
this
project
transitional
in
height
and
further,
the
height
of
the
link
was
intentionally
constrained
to
the
height
of
the
existing
perlin
building,
and
so
should
this
project
be
so
so
constrained
very
importantly
and
bottom
line,
this
project
is
only
masquerading
as
an
affordable
housing
project.
It
is
not
at
all
what
is
set
out
to
be
months
ago.
What
was
originally
a
30
market,
70
percent,
affordable
project
has
somehow
been
transformed
into
a
seventy
percent
market.
Thirty
percent
affordable
project-
that's
becoming
really
just
another
regular
residential
project.
Mr.
C
Johanna
who's
next
next
up,
melissa,
upheld
then
mike
masilco,
then
peter
miller,
okay,.
B
D
We
know
it's
a
very
challenging
problem
for
all
of
us,
but
we
believe
the
proposed
hacc
development
at
emerson
and
sherman
presents
an
opportunity
not
only
for
the
addition
of
51
affordable
units,
but
also
for
the
innovative
approach
to
the
complexities
of
funding
it.
We
urge
you
to
take
advantage
of
the
opportunity
and
approve
this
project.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very.
L
I
guess
I
am
I'm
speaking
in
opposition
to
p4.
I
mean
I've
been
listening
carefully
to
everyone.
Who's
been
speaking
ahead
of
me,
at
least
those
who
are
speaking
in
in
support
claiming
there's
so
many
or
51
or
more
affordable
housing
units.
But
I
I'm
having
difficulty
understanding
where
that
is
reality,
because
what
I've
heard
is,
and
what
I've
read
is
that
some
of
these
units
or
the
so-called
affordable
units
are
still
going
to
cost
1700
a
month
for
a
small
studio
or
a
one-bedroom.
L
I
mean
for
somebody
who
is
seeking
affordable
housing,
and
I
think
that
term
is
just
so
misused,
but
regardless
of
seventeen
hundred
dollars
a
month
is,
is
not
affordable
for
most
people
who
are
striving
on
a
small
salary,
small
income
to
live
in
evanston.
So
I
oppose
that.
I
mean
once
again
throw
zoning
out
the
window.
That's
his
owner.
L
Evanston
appears
not
to
really
have
a
zoning
code,
because
I
haven't
seen
a
project
come
before
you
rarely
come
before
you
that
actually
meets
stoning
out
of
the
box,
they're
all
asking
for
more
than
what
current
zoning
applies
allows
for,
and
it
just
seems
ridiculous
that
you
know
our
staff
and
this
committee
seems
to
gravitate
towards
again
throwing
the
zoni
code
out
the
window
and
just
starting
from
scratch
and
doing
what
a
developer
wants.
So
I
post
this,
I
don't
see
the
affordable
housing.
M
M
It
is
in
fact,
simply
a
measure
that
would
enrich
a
single
landowner.
It
will
lead
to
an
intolerable
increase
in
traffic
in
the
one
lane
alley.
That
is
the
only
way
in
and
out
of
the
property
it
will
thereby
endanger
children
on
bicycles
and
other
pedestrians
who
are
who
use
the
alley
to
get
to
leahy
park.
M
It
will
lead
to
a
further
deterioration
of
the
alley
and
the
reduction
in
the
quality
of
life
for
those
living
in
houses
bordering
the
album.
Second,
the
subdivision
enables
construction
on
2404
ridge
property
that
threatens
to
increase
the
already
substantial
flooding
of
the
properties
on
colfax
street
and
in
leahey
park.
M
If
you
must
consider
a
subdivision
resolution
for
this
property,
make
it
one
that
contains
clear,
binding
and
verifiable
restrictions
on
parking
and
on
the
type
placement
and
drainage
impacts
of
any
buildings
that
are
on
the
subdivided
subdivided
plot.
You
cannot
rely
on
the
owner
to
further
the
public
interest
prospectively
on
his
own
thanks
very
much.
B
N
N
Last
year
in
december,
I
believe
we
put
together
a
presentation
presented
in
person
to
city
city
staff
regarding
our
specific
concerns
around
traffic
management
and
drainage
management,
that
a
subdivision
would
create.
Those
concerns
apparently
fell
on
deaf
ears.
We
never
received
any
feedback,
and
the
resolution
that's
being
put
before
city
before
this
commission
today
doesn't
address
any
of
those
things.
So
if
a
subdivision
is
to
move
forward
these,
these
concerns
around
the
amount
of
cars
that
can
park
on
that
property
and
use
the
alley
the
concerns
are
on
the
flooding.
N
These
need
to
be
addressed
up
front
because
we
allow
the
the
developer
to
subdivide
the
land
without
an
actual
plan,
for
what
he's
going
to
build
on
it,
then
we're
opening
up
a
pandora's
box
that
he'll
be
able
to
do
whatever
we
can
and
we'll
be
fighting
an
uphill
battle
to
prevent
any
undesired
outcomes.
Moving
forward,
thank
you.
O
O
This
project
not
only
provides
a
substantial
number
of
affordable
units,
but
also
establishes
a
new
model
by
designing
a
mix
of
affordable
and
above
market
units
leveraging
its
high
rent
units
to
pay
for
the
affordable
ones.
Our
congregation
supports
a
covenant
that
states
we
will
work
against
injustice
and
to
protect
the
vulnerable,
providing
secure,
affordable
housing
with
amenities
for
all
residents
fulfills
these
goals.
It
also
builds
a
community
not
segregated
by
income
levels.
Please
support
this
opportunity
to
bring
a
unique
residence
for
seniors
to
evanston.
P
Q
My
name
is
steine
yantrons
and
I'm
a
ninth
ward
resident
at
848
ridge
avenue
been
there
almost
20
years
now,
a
long
time
renter
and
I'm
also
a
member
of
joining
forces
for
affordable
housing.
Q
Q
We
need
a
lot
more
affordable
housing,
including
for
seniors,
so
50
units
may
not
seem
like
much
may
seem
like
a
drop
in
the
bucket,
but
think
about
that
in
terms
of
equivalent
smaller
residences
or
developments
where
in
evanston
do
we
have
room
to
build
16,
three
flats
or
eight
six
flats.
Even
this
is
a
major
addition
to
the
affordable
housing
stock.
We
have
here
in
evanston,
larger
developments
like
this
house,
more
people
on
a
smaller
footprint
than
single-family
homes
or
smaller
developments,
and
that's
important
in
cities.
Q
Like
ours
with
scarce
land
for
housing,
development,
compact
housing
also
improves
energy
efficiency
over
single
family
or
smaller
developments.
According
to
the
u.s
energy
information
administration,
households
living
in
apartment
buildings
with
five
or
more
units
use
about
half
as
much
energy
as
other
types
of
homes,
denser
residential
areas
have
shorter
distances
between
homework
and
school,
food,
health
care
and
various
other
amenities
and
necessities
that
allows
people
to
walk
by
or
use
public
transportation
instead
of
cars,
which,
in
turn
conserves
fuel,
reduces
emissions
and
decreases
the
number
of
parking
spaces
required.
Q
B
B
R
Thank
you
hi,
I'm
tony
ray.
I
live
at
10
20
grove,
which
is
an
independent
living
senior
building,
and
I
can
testify
there's
a
great
need
for
affordable
senior,
affordable
housing
in
evanston.
I'm
not
going
to
repeat
all
the
other
things
you've
already
heard.
I
support
us
building,
1900
sherman.
It
sounds
like
something
that
evanston
really
needs,
and
I
echo
the
people.
Who've
said:
let's
walk
the
talk.
Thank
you.
S
Hi,
my
name
is
melinda
russo
and
I
live
in
the
third
ward,
I'm
also
a
member
of
the
joining
forces
for
affordable
housing
coalition
and
I'm
speaking
in
support
of
agenda
item
p4.
The
housing
authority
of
cook
county's
proposed
development
at
1900,
sherman
avenue
and
the
related
rezoning
and
special
use
permit.
S
I
appreciate
that
expand,
affordable,
housing
options
is
one
of
the
five
goals
for
this
year
in
the
city
of
evanston's
strategic
plan,
and
I
believe
that
supporting
this
project
is
an
opportunity
to
take
real
action
on
this
goal.
This
past
summer,
I
began
to
learn
more
about
affordable
housing
in
our
community,
and
one
thing
that
I
learned
is
that
a
building's
height
is
a
tool
that
can
be
used
to
create
more
affordable
housing
more
efficiently.
S
I
can
understand
some
neighbors
concerns
about
building
height
and
in
the
past.
I
might
have
shared
this
concern
myself,
but
my
thinking
has
changed
since
learning
more.
I
now
believe
that
I
cannot
truly
be
in
favor
of
affordable
housing
and,
at
the
same
time,
object
to
taller
buildings
in
evanston.
The
height
of
this
building
provides
stable
homes
for
approximately
50
families.
That
is
more
important
to
me
than
any
other
consideration
if
we
want
to
move
towards
a
more
equitable
society.
The
undeniable
fact
is
that
we
need
to
share
resources.
S
O
U
Okay,
I'm
starting
my
video,
I'm
ann
weatherhead
and
I
am
representing
three
three
hats
today,
I'm
a
resident
of
the
first
ward,
I'm
a
member
of
evanston
lighthouse,
rotary
and
also
joining
forces
for
affordable
housing.
U
U
As
a
member
of
rotary,
I
chair
the
housing
committee
with
a
focus
on
advocacy
for
increased,
affordable
housing
in
evanston.
You've
heard
already
many
comments
about
the
the
facts
around
this
and
other
types
of
support.
So
I
will
not
repeat
those
I
am
presenting
my
views
and
those
of
that
I
work
with
from
an
equity
and
diversity
lens,
and
I
encourage
you
please
to
support
the
development
as
as
presented.
V
D
W
Hello,
everybody,
I'm
sue
lolbach
and
I
work
at
connections
for
the
homeless
and
lead
our
advocacy
coalition
called
joining
forces
for
affordable
housing.
I'm
here
to
ask
you
to
support
development
of
the
emerson
in
1900
sherman.
W
W
However,
according
to
the
depaul
institute
on
housing
studies,
there's
a
shortage
of
more
than
6
000,
affordable
units
in
evanston
and
skokie
combined
without
significant
change.
Evanston
will
never
be
able
to
address
its
affordable
housing
goal.
We
ask
you
to
make
the
meaningful
choice
for
change
and
for
affordable
housing
and
to
support
the
emerson.
Thank
you.
P
Hi,
I
am
here
to
ask
that
you
please
advise
the
hacc
housing
for
county
developers
to
come
back
with
a
better
proposal.
I
sort
of
feel
like
I'm
in
the
twilight
zone
a
little
bit
because
the
first
version
that's
hack
presented-
and
I
think
everyone
still
thinks
on
the
table-
was
palatable
and
reasonable
and
wonderful
11
stories.
80
units
70,
affordable.
P
Yet
that's
transformed
into
an
over-the-top
ask
in
an
unacceptable
building
at
16
stories,
which
is
a
hundred
percent
beyond
our
zoning.
It
has
168
units,
so
that's
more
than
double
and
70
luxury,
not
70,
affordable
anymore.
Even
you,
city,
council
last,
you
heard
the
presentation
it
was
70
percent,
affordable,
70
luxury
is
the
last
thing,
evanston
needs
and
all
the
people
speaking
to
affordability,
think
about
this
there's.
P
According
to
our
I
ihl,
that's
all
it's
34
units,
actually,
the
10
missing
metal
units
are
are
priced
at
almost
seventeen
hundred
dollars
for
small
studios
and
one
bedrooms,
and
this
is
what
we
understand
from
the
developer-
has
driven
the
height
up
to
16
stories
and
they
so
so
the
neighborhood
is,
let's
see.
Oh,
I
was
going
back
to
the
these.
These
units
1700
are
really
still
pricey
and
comparable
to
the
non-luxury
units
that
are
available
in
evanston.
It's
not
the
equivalent.
P
The
ask
that
they
are
making
this
neighborhood
does
not
there's
not
grounds
for
these
still
very
expensive
units.
The
precedent
here
or
that
there's
two
to
four
story:
buildings,
north
of
this
property
and
beyond-
and
this
creek
will
create
a
precedent,
especially
with
its
proximity
to
northwestern
developers.
Will
love
would
love
to
build
an
equally
large
luxury
housing
for
for
northwestern
and
we'll
certainly
use
this
as
a
precedent.
P
The
way
that
hack
used
links,
height
and
luxury
offerings
that
we
were
worried
about
at
the
time
sure
enough
they
are
using
link-
and
this
will
be
a
precedent
for
other
developments
like
this
to
be
built
down.
Sherman,
please
be
advised
that
a
majority
of
the
plan-
commissioners,
the
majority
of
the
conversation,
the
meeting-
was
concerned
over
the
height
zoning
versus
the
diminished
public
benefits.
They
said,
and
they
actually
tried
to
to
make
an
amendment
recommending
the
height
be
reduced,
but
they
were
prevented
from
doing
that.
P
They
said,
although
in
favor
of
the
concept
we
have
to
draw,
the
line,
16
stories
is
too
tall
at
this
site.
It's
asking
too
much
of
the
neighborhood.
They
also
said
concern
about
the
balance
between
the
public
benefit,
which
has
been
reduced
and
the
size
and
the
mass
of
the
building,
mostly
what
it
does
to
the
neighborhood.
P
Now
they
said,
height
is
an
issue
change
the
pro
forma
lower
the
height,
pursue
the
tax
subsidies,
and
I
know
that
you
know:
there's
they're,
proud
of
holding
off
on
the
available
low
income
tax
credits,
but
and
they're
trying
their
hand
at
being
luxury
developers.
This
is
a
prototype.
Okay.
This
is
a
prototype
and
I
think
it's
too
big
to
take
a
chance
and
we're
wondering
why
hack
is
going
into
the
business
of
being
luxury
developments.
We'd,
like
another
proposal,
we're
all
for
this
building
for
your
reasonable
level.
B
Are
you
able
I'm
sorry
johanna,
you
you
froze
for
a
second
there?
Could
you
say
that
again.
X
Yes,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
thank
you.
I
just
wrote
this
up
as
I
was
listening,
so
I
apologize
for
the
format.
It's
not
what
I
was
preparing
to
present,
but
I
just
wanted
to
comment
based
upon
what
I've
heard
and
what
I
think
are
the
real
issues
here.
So
I'll
go
as
fast
as
I
can.
I
haven't
pretended
I'm
very
much
in
favor
of
providing
affordable
housing
but
very
much
question
that
evanston
residents
will
occupy
the
affordable
units
that
will
be
available
in
this
proposed
development.
X
Hacc
had
a
waiting
list
for
vouchers
that
was
closed
for
20
years.
It
had
6
000
people
on
it.
It
was
reopened.
In
october
of
this
year,
10
000
more
people
were
added
to
the
list,
and
the
list
is
now
closed
again
after
a
month.
When
will
it
reopen?
I
don't
know
it
was
closed
for
20
years
before
that,
before
october
of
this
year
there
is
no
opportunity
to
be
added
to
the
waiting
list.
X
It
would
be
wonderful
to
be
able
to
provide
affordable
housing
for
those
in
cook
county
outside
of
evanston,
in
addition
to
evanston
residents,
but
obviously
we
are
not
in
the
financial
condition
to
serve
evanston
residents,
as
well
as
the
rest
of
cook,
county
and
so
having
to
choose.
We
obviously
need
to
prioritize
evanston
residents
and
their
families
and
those
who
work
in
evanston.
X
Additionally,
those
middle
units
are
not
very
inexpensive
and
the
same
rents
can
be
found.
Naturally,
in
the
immediate
area
I
forgot
to
say,
I
live
within
500
feet
of
1900
sherman,
so,
additionally
repeating
my
last
sentence.
Additionally,
those
middle
units
are
not
very
inexpensive
and
the
same
rents
can
be
found.
Naturally
in
the
immediate
area.
I
appreciate
that
it
is
nice
to
live
close
to
downtown.
I
like
it
very
much,
and
I
would
like
it
to
stay
the
way
it
is
seniors.
X
Please
join
us
in
the
smaller
buildings
in
the
area
right
around
here
that
have
apartments
with
the
same
rents
as
the
rents
proposed
for
the
middle
income
units
we'd
love
to
have
more
seniors
in
the
area
for
those
lower
income
seniors.
Who
can't
afford
the
middle
units
and
qualify
for
the
affordable
units,
your
vouchers
could
be
used
elsewhere,
and
if
that
is
a
problem,
it
is
a
problem
we
can
solve
in
another
way.
X
Unfortunately,
this
building
is
not
serving
what
I
think
of
as
the
people
most
need
of
affordable
housing,
those
who
make
more
than
50
percent
of
the
ami
and
therefore
don't
qualify
for
the
affordable
units
in
this
building.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
yes
right,
but
make
less
than
the
ami
and
can't
afford
the
middle
units
this
building
is
providing.
These
are
the
people
not
served
by
the
proposed
development?
However
much
they
purport
to
be
serving
the
missing
middle.
The
missing
middle
are
those
making
between
80
to
21
20
percent
of
the
ami.
X
According
to
this
development,
I'll
sum
up,
the
real
people
that
are
missing
are
those
making
between
50
and
80
percent.
Ami.
This
building
is
not
using
experts,
I'm
so
sorry.
I
know
I.
I
also
have
just
two
sentences.
X
C
Next
robinson,
marcus,
then
darlene
cannon,
then
claire
kelly.
Y
All
right
good
evening
to
planning
and
development
committees,
city
staff
residents
in
attendance-
I
hope
you
all
are
staying
healthy
and
well
these
days
my
name
is
robbie
marcus,
I'm
a
fourth
ward
resident,
also
a
worker
owner
employee
owner
with
the
evanston
development
cooperative.
Y
Y
I
think,
looking
at
the
city's
2020
consolidated
plan
around
four
in
ten
of
evanston's
households
are
cost-burdened
or
severely
cost
burdened,
and
given
that,
in
some
publications,
folks
are
calling
the
coven
19
recession,
one
of
the
most
unequal
recessions
in
history,
given
its
predominant,
given
that
it's
predominantly
affecting
the
working
class
and
black
and
brown
folks,
I
think
the
needs
for
affordable
housing
have
only
been
exacerbated
in
2020.
Y
I
think
to
say
yes
on
this
project
is
to
say
and
agree
that
we
need
racial
and
socioeconomic
diversity
in
our
neighborhoods
now
and
for
the
future,
so
I'm
in
full
support
of
this
project
and
hope
that
pmd
committee
can
support
it
as
well.
Thank
you
very.
Z
Z
Hi
hi,
okay,
let's
see
the
residents
in
the
park,
jane
pearlman
building
are
very
upset
and
do
not
want
the
building
because
they
think
it's
too
much.
It
will
be
too
much.
Congestion,
noise
and
they'll
lose
their
parking
and
be
forced
to
park
two
blocks
away
at
e2.
The
perlman
residents
would
like
the
right
for
first
refusal
of
the
apartments
and
should
be
able
to
enjoy
this
the
same.
The
amenities
of
the
new
building,
since
they
don't
have
any
amenities
in
their
own
building.
Z
The
building
is
too
high
and
will
create
a
terrible
wind
tunnel
in
between
the
buildings
and
for
seniors.
It
will
create
a
greater
risk
for
them
to
lose
their
balance
and
possibly
fall.
More
neat
units
need
to
be
set
aside
that
are
affordable
in
the
30
to
60
percent
ami
range
and
less
than
the
80
to
120
and
luxury
range.
Z
I
like
I'd
I'd,
also
like
for
folks,
because
I
keep
hearing
people
talk
about
using
the
equity
lens
I'd
like
for
folks
on
this
committee
and
then
joining
forces
to
use
the
equity
lens,
and
let's
address
the
difference
between
the
amis
between
black
and
white
people.
In
everything,
because
that
will
directly
impact
which
seniors
can
live
in
this
development,
the
handicap
handicap
accessibility
should
be
allowed
to
live
there,
regardless
of
the
age,
because,
if
they're
handicapped,
they
should
not
be
restricted
as
to
where
they
can
live.
Z
And,
lastly,
I'd
like
to
see
this
development
be
different
than
all
the
rest,
which
would
mean
to
allow
young
adults
of
color
to
receive
work
contracts
and
employment
with
the
contractors,
as
we
saw
with
rival
crown
and
the
numerous
other
developments
that
did
not
take
place.
Thank
you.
Z
B
You
all
right,
miss
kelly.
Are
you
here.
B
V
Kelly,
yes,
I'm
here
so
first
I'd
like
to
say
that
I
feel
strongly
that
mixed
income
buildings
are
a
very
positive
objective
and
they
should
be
supported.
However,
there
are
serious,
serious
problems
with
this
project
and
I
want
to
first
talk
about
the
process.
V
This
really
has
felt
like
a
bait
and
switch
and
primarily
for
the
residents
who
are
most
impacted,
who
are
the
residents
of
the
pearlman
building?
There
has
not
been
a
single
community
meeting
about
this
building,
the
last
one
that
was
held.
It
was
when
it
was
nine
stories
with
a
hundred
units
and
there
hasn't
been
a
meeting
to
meet
a
community
meeting,
particularly
with
the
pearlman
with
everybody,
but
those
are
the
ones
most
impacted
when
it
went
up
to
168
units
and
16
stories.
This
is
not
tweaking
a
project.
V
We
need
to
own
that
this
is
a
new
project.
This
is
an
entirely
new
project
and
everybody,
including
the
pearlman
residents,
have
a
right
to
quality
of
living
and
their
voices
should
be
heard,
and
they
are
feeling
right
now
and
I'm
going
to
tell
you
40
40
people
in
that
building
are
very
upset
with
the
project
and
feel
voiceless.
They
feel
disregarded
and
I
have
to
say
I
am,
to
put
it
mildly,
dismayed
at
all
these
people
getting
up
here
tonight
and
applauding
you
know,
affordable
units
and
and
and
saying
they're.
V
You
know
about
the
black
and
brown
people,
but
who's
walked
into
that
building.
To
talk
to
the
residents
of
low-income
residents
of
the
pearlman
building,
they
feel
threatened,
they
feel
intimidated.
The
planned
commission
notice
that
was
put
up
was
torn
down
by
management,
so
they
didn't
even
they
thought
it
was
over,
that
it
wasn't
happening.
They
pulled
it
down
off
the
wall.
How
many
of
you
have
walked
in
there
to
to
talk
to
them
and
about
their
concerns,
and
I'm
really
anyway.
This
is
really
upsetting.
V
Furthermore,
I
want
to
say
tying
the
117,
the
51
units
to
117
market
rate
units.
I
feel
like
everybody
up
here,
needs
to
really
put
on
their
critical
thinking
caps
in
order
consult
with
affordable
housing
experts,
because
truly
there
are
other
options.
If
mr
minocchio,
as
he
states
the
objectives,
is
to
create
more
affordable
units,
there
are
other
options.
The
50,
affordable
units
do
not
need
to
be
tied
to
117
market
rate
units,
nor
does
the
additional
heightening
needed.
We
could
have
even
more
units
as
sealer
the
previous
woman
stated.
V
We
could
have
more.
We
could
have
up
to
60,
affordable
units
with
the
original
proposed
11-story
building
with
a
90
unit.
Building
by
having
the
housing
authority
designate
30
units
for
project-based
vouchers,
the
rental
income
generated
from
the
project
baked
vouchers
would
be
at
fair
market
rents.
That
would
be
by
definition,
match
what
is
forecast
from
the
market
rate
units.
V
V
Wait,
wait!
I
have
to
say
this,
please,
I'm
sorry
but
jeanne
linwall
was
appointed
to
the
plan
commission
and
she
is
a
principal
consultant
for
camrose,
which
is
one
which
is
the
developer.
That
is
partnering
with
hacc
all
the
way
through
on
paper,
and
she
was
appointed
this
summer
to
plan
commission
at
best.
That
is
inappropriate
for
her
to
be
appointed
to
a
vote
environment.
C
We
do
lori,
keenan
is
up
next,
then
trisha,
connolly
and
then
elliott,
dashin.
B
Okay,
I
would
just
ask
if
anyone
any
of
the
other
speakers.
We
really
would
like
to
deliberate
this
in
committee
and
still
end
up
on
time
for
our
city
council
meeting
and,
as
you
all
know,
we
have
the
budget
tonight
which
we
we
really
do
want
to
get
to.
So
if
someone
else
has
said
what
the
points
that
you
are
going
to
make,
you
could
just
say
ditto,
because
we
really
do
want
to
deliberate
and
hear
from
the
developer
and
be
able
to
ask
questions.
AA
I've
heard
many
people
on
this
call
say
they
support
the
project
because
of
affordable
housing
that
it
will
provide,
but
I
wonder
if
they
know
that
this
project
has
changed
dramatically
from
its
original
plan.
I
can
tell
you,
over
the
past
several
weeks
as
I've
been
collecting
signatures
from
evanston
registered
voters
on
petitions.
AA
Not
one
person
has
told
me
they
don't
think,
there's
enough
luxury
development
in
town,
I've
heard
about
a
lack
of
affordable
housing
and
how
people
are
being
priced
out
of
town,
I've
heard
about
our
rising
taxes
and
how
people
can't
afford
to
live
here
anymore.
I've
heard
a
lot
about
parking
complaints
too
much
density,
but
not
one
single
person
has
said
gee.
AA
I
wish
we
had
more
luxury
high-rises
and
while
this
project
may
have
started
as
affordable
housing,
it
no
longer
truly
is
I
have
been
in
the
senior
housing
and
senior
living
sector
for
a
not-for-profit
for
about
10
years,
and
I
know
what
affordable
housing
looks
like
especially
for
seniors.
This
is
not
it
since
the
project
began.
It's
flipped
from
providing
70,
affordable
housing
to
70
luxury
units.
AA
The
project
now
includes
20
percent
low
income
housing,
as
required
by
our
inclusionary
housing,
ordinance,
20
percent
and
10
middle
units
or
80
to
20
ami,
the
average
median
income.
So
it's
only
slightly
reduced
luxury
rent
rents
for
studios
and
one
bedrooms
at
seventeen
hundred
dollars
a
month.
This
would
be
the
sixth
such
project
of
its
kind,
which
has
been
approved
in
the
last
few
years.
The
link,
the
albion,
the
avador
1815
ridge
and
now
601
davis,
and
now
this
enough
is
enough.
AA
Even
the
rendering
looks
horrendous
as
it
dwarfs
all
of
the
adjacent
structures
stick
to
what
the
zoning
allows
and
please
end
the
giveaways
that
compromise
our
community,
while
not
creating
true
benefits,
people
who
actually
live
here
now.
If
this
were
truly
going
to
be
70,
affordable
housing,
as
ms
kelly
just
laid
out,
it
could
be,
then
I
could
see
supporting
it,
but
as
it
is,
this
plan
should
be
opposed.
Thank
you.
AB
Okay,
miss
connolly,
hi,
I'm
tricia
conley.
I
live
in
the
fourth
ward.
I
oppose
this
project
and
for
similar
reasons
that
have
been
stated
through
the
evening.
I
think
it's
time
we
all
look
in
the
mirror
and
we
take
a
real
close
look
about
equity
inclusion.
AB
You
know
race
and
ethnicity,
and
this
kumbaya
moment
if
we
will
and
really
get
down
to
it
and
really
think,
are
we
really
doing
what
we
need
to
do
here?
We
know
we
have
an
acute
need
for
affordable
housing.
Are
we
going
to
ride
on
the
back
of
for-profit
developers
to
get
there?
Is
this
what
we're
going
to
continue
to
do?
We've
been
doing
this
for
several
years
now
and
we're
barely
getting
forward.
We
need
to
really
get
brave
and
we
really
need
to
ask
questions
and
we
really
need
to
push
hard.
AB
C
We
have
two
more
after
that
sorry,
so
elliott,
zashan
jacqueline
eddie,
then
claire
weight
ball.
B
Okay:
let's
go
on
to
jacqueline
eddy.
I
B
AC
AC
I
think
it's
an
innovative
model
to
create
and
fund
affordable
housing
in
a
way
that
will
not
segregate
people
based
on
income
levels
on
our
website,
the
city
of
evanston
state's
a
vision
to
create
the
most
livable
city
in
america.
That
celebrates
the
diversity
of
the
city's
residents
and
is
a
vibrant
community,
comprised
of
many
strong
neighborhoods
races,
religions
and
levels
of
income.
AC
AC
Our
2000
comprehensive
housing
plan
says
we
should
work
to
address
the
concerns
about
cost
and
affordability
and
recently
that
senior
housing
is
lacking,
affordable
senior
housing
lacking
in
evanston.
I
believe
the
unique
community
character
of
our
livable
city
that
celebrates
economic
and
racial
diversity
is
at
risk,
and
I
support
this
project
and
the
city
council
for
making
affordable
housing
one
of
its
top
priorities.
AC
I
am
extremely
proud
to
live
in
a
city,
that's
leading
the
country
in
conversation
and
actions
around
reparations
and
the
commitment
made
by
our
city
council
to
end
structural
racism
and
achieve
racial
equity.
A
strong
commitment
to
create
affordable
housing
options
across
our
community
will
be
one
of
the
most
effective
tools
we
can
use
towards
recreation
efforts.
If
evanston
wants
to
maintain
its
special
character,
we
should
support
all
these
types
of
proposals
and
put
teeth
in
our
commitment
as
the
first
city
in
the
country
to
adopt
and
implement
a
plan
for
reparations.
B
Thank
you,
ms
eddie.
Okay,
so
my
understanding
is
johanna.
The
the
last
person
on
the
list
is
claire.
Waitsell.
AD
Okay
alderman,
when
I
have
a
citizen
presentation
that
we
emailed
about
is
now
the
time.
No
now.
B
It's
not
the
time
this
way.
So
can
you
please
wait
until
we
have
the
item
before
us
and
then
I
will
call
on
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay.
Thank
you
all
right.
That
completes
our
citizen
comment.
I
would
like
to
clarify
something.
Mr
scott
mangum.
B
If
you
are
you're
on
the
line,
there
was
a
statement
from
one
of
our
speakers
that
one
of
the
planned
commission
members
should
have
recused
herself
gene
lindwald,
and
I
want
to
ask
you
specifically
what
what
did
miss
linwald
do
when
this
p4
was
before
the
planned
commission.
T
Thank
you.
Man
of
chairman
members
of
planning
development
committee,
miss
linwall,
did
recuse
herself
from
when
this
item
was
first
at
plan
commission
in
september
and.
V
B
V
I
said
she
was
appointed
to
the
commission,
which
was
inappropriate
to
be
appointed
to
a
commission
when
her
company
was
in
the
midst
of
vying
for
zoning
variances
for
her
company
in
partnership
with
hacc.
That
is
inappropriate
at
best
melissa,
and
you
know
it,
and
she
knows
it
and
judy
fist
knows
that
you
do
not
jump
on
a
commission
and
she,
when
she
recused
herself,
she
also
did
not
state
the
reason
why,
which
is.
V
You
have
not,
you
have
not,
she
did.
She
should
never
have
been
appointed
to
a
commission
when
her
company
was
in
throat
and
she
failed
to
explain
why
she
was
accu
recusing
herself,
which
is
also
stated
in
the
rules
that
she
should
state
and
she
did
it
and
she
stayed
at
the
meeting.
She
didn't
even
leave
the
meeting.
B
Okay,
miss
kelly.
I
I
believe
that
she
acted
appropriately
from
what
our
city
staff
has
told
us
and
we're
going
to
move
on.
Thank
you
all
right.
Next,
we
are
going
to
move
to
our
items
on
the
agenda.
B
Let's
see
here
first
item:
would
someone
on
the
committee
like
to
take.
B
A
All
right,
p1
is
ordinance.
35020
amending
title
vi
regarding
ground
floor
uses
in
the
d2
district
staff
is
recommending
that
the
planning
and
development
committee
deny
ordinance
35020
due
to
the
current
coven
19
pandemic
and
the
economic
uncertainty
over
the
retail
market
and
the
inability
to
hold
in-person
meetings
with
key
stakeholders.
A
Previously,
the
planned
commission
staff
had
recommended
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
to
modify
the
currently
permitted
ground
floor
uses,
including
offices
and
financial
uses,
to
special
uses
in
order
to
encourage
active
ground
floor,
uses
that
promote
pedestrian
activity
and
an
economically
developed,
economically
vibrant
downtown
corridor
in
the
d2
downtown
retail
core
district,
however,
giving
the
uncertainty
staff
wishes
to
bring
the
issue
back
at
some
point
in
the
future.
It's
for
introduction.
B
All
right
is
there
a
second
second,
okay,
shall
we
have
discussion
from
staff
on
this
issue,
or
is
this
self-apparent.
AE
Can
I
can
you
call
on
me?
Yes,
alderman,
fisk,
okay,
wait
one
second
I'll
screw
it
up
here
there
we
go,
I'm
wondering
from
staff.
Why
we
don't
just
table
this
rather
than
deny
it
I
mean.
If
it's
going
to
be
coming
back,
then.
AE
B
Table
it
again,
no
we've
exhausted
our
resource,
the
administrative
steps
we
can
take
on
this
all
memphis.
C
C
So
we
can
better
define
what
these
uses
might
be
just
so
we
we
can
understand
what
you
might
there
might
be
another
use
that
is
out
there
that
we
wouldn't
want
to
put
on
a
ground
floor
that
is
akin
to
these,
but
is
not
as
clearly
defined
as
this,
so
that
the
the
actual
use
might
might
need
a
different
description
in
a
year
or
six
months.
B
Okay,
do
we
need
to
take
a
vote
on
this,
but
I
have
a
question:
oh
alderman
rainey
I
apologize
and
then
alderman
wilson.
I
Well,
I'm
wondering
why
would
we
deny
this?
Why
don't
we
just
simply
remove
it
from
the
agenda
based
on
the
covet
issue?
I
I
would
hate
for
some
other
council
to
get
hold
of
it
and
say
well,
this
was
denied,
I
mean
we
don't
we
don't
really
mean
to
deny
it.
We
just
want
it
off
our
agenda
so
because
we
don't
want
to
deal
with
it.
A
A
You
know
I
I
I
understand
and
respect
the
idea
that
we
have
to
like
look
at
how
things
are
going
to
be
in
the
post-covered
world,
but
I
think
what
we
maybe
want
to
consider
is.
We
have
to
be
I'm
looking
for
the
right
word,
but
you
know
ready
and
able
to.
B
A
Agile
agility
right,
I
think
we
would
maybe
want
to
have
some
agility
in
the
present,
because
you
know
this
is
likely
to
take
months
longer
and
things
are
already
changing
and
things
have
probably
already
changed.
So
I
have
a
bit
of
an
inclination
to
go
ahead
and
proceed
just
to
provide
people
with
some
options.
You
know
the
things
are
closed.
A
Things
are,
closing
people
are
desperate
to
fill
space,
and
you
know,
I
think,
when
things
come
back,
they're
just
simply
not
going
to
be
exactly
the
same
as
they
were,
and
you
know
if
we're
short
on,
for
example,
restaurant
space
or
whatever
else,
because
we
allow
for
these
other
things.
You
know
there
certainly
are
a
number
of
buildings
in
other
spaces
that
are,
you
know,
going
to
be
thrilled
to
you
know
have
occupants,
because
we've
got
a
lot
of
empty
space.
R
B
Okay,
thank
you
luke
all
right,
ms
knighton,
would
you
like
to
respond
to
that?
Mr
well,
mr
wilson's
alderman
wilson's
points.
C
And
we're
we're
perfectly
happy
to
have
this
move
forward
with
an
approval.
I
think
the
response
when
we
discuss
this
mid
mid
of
our
current
covet
state
was
concern
over
what
what
might
the
future
hold.
So,
if
I
think,
if
we're
feeling
more
comfortable
about
making
this
especially
moving
forward
making
this
a
special
use,
we're
you
know,
we've
heard
we
could
always
come
back
with
some
other
tweak
down
the
line
if
that
needs
need
be
so
that
we're
fine
either
way.
AH
B
Alderman
randy
in
order
to
remain
flexible.
Perhaps
we
should
move
forward
with
this
and
see
what
comes
out
after
what
comes
forward
after
eventually
after
covid
has
resettled.
B
Okay,
so
alderman
wilson,
would
you
like
us
to
move
forward
and
introduce
this.
A
I
would
I
mean
I,
don't
I
don't
see
a
compelling
reason
to
hold
off
on
it
and
you
know
what
things
things
are
going
to
change
and
then
we're
going
to
change
it
again
later.
But
I
guess
for
for
right
now
it
provides
the
potential
for
some
flexibility
and.
B
Special
use
so
with
the
special
use
it's
still
going
to
have
to
go
through
the
special
use
process.
I
I'd
argue
that
we
should
move.
I
agree
with
you,
aldrin
wilson.
I
think
we
should
move
forward
and
if
we
discover
that
we
have
some
special
uses
or
an
overwhelming
number
of
them,
that
we
think
that
this
wasn't
a
smart
idea.
We
can
always
revisit
that,
but
I
have
a
feeling.
We
won't
have
that
many
come
forward
very
quickly.
A
A
I'm
not
going
to
do
it
right
now,
but,
let's
just
before
we
it's
for
introduction
now
right
so
yeah
before
we
go
take
action,
let's
just
double
check
the
red
line,
but
yeah
I
feel
like
we
should
go
ahead
and
proceed
and
and
just
make
these
uses
available
to
people
if
they've
got
something
that
turns
out
like
you
know,
if
it
looks
like
a
good
idea.
B
Okay,
so
before
our
next
meeting
I'd
urge
the
the
committee
members
to
to
read
through
this
carefully
and
use
your
imagination
in
terms
of
how
this
would
apply
so
that
we
feel
that
feel
good
about
moving
forward
with
it.
So
that's
been
moved
and
introduced.
Do
we
need
a
roll
call
for
that.
AE
W
R
B
All
right,
so
this
has
been
moved
and
introduced
all
right
item
p2.
B
I
Okay,
okay,
I
got
it
right
here.
This
is
p2
ordinance,
101,
oh
20,
amending
ordinance
136.018
regarding
the
city
of
evanson,
permit
fees
and
move
approval.
B
Yes,
that's
right.
Any
discussion.
B
Does
everyone
do
we
need
anything
from
the
staff
to
explain
this,
or
is
this
self-explanatory
as
well
no
hands,
ms
knighton,
would
you
call
the
role
please
for
introduction.
AI
Sure
so
staff
recommends
adoption
of
resolution
73-r-20
approving
a
re-subdivision
of
2-404
ridge
avenue,
subject
to
conditions
of
approval
requiring
a
six-foot
dedication
of
land
for
alley,
widening
a
view
easement
for
the
existing
landmark
house,
disconnection
of
utility
services
and
capping
and
sealing
of
a
well.
This
item
was
held
at
the
september
14th
planning
and
development
committee
meeting
and
enabled
to
our
meeting
today
november
9th,
and
this
is
for
action.
A
So
I
guess
there's
a
threshold
question:
it's
my
impression
from
our
prior
discussion
that
there
was
not
I'll
call
it
a
meeting
of
the
minds
or
an
agreement
on
the
conditions
that
are
in
the
resolution
for
the
property
owner-
and
I
guess
that's
sort
of
my
starting
point-
is
whether
that
circumstance
has
changed
or
not
changed.
AF
That
has
not
changed.
This
was
a
fully
compliant
subdivision.
The
zoning
analysis
had
no
issues
with
it.
There's
plenty
of
room
for
setbacks.
The
lot
size
is
well
more
than
big
enough.
There
were
conditions
added
which
were
some
were
inappropriate
and
some
were
just
not
contrary
to
evanston
code,
such
as
the
view
easement.
AF
AF
AF
We
don't
have
an
issue
with
attaching
the
sewer
whenever
the
new
lot
is
developed.
We
don't
have
an
issue
with
that,
but
the
remainder
of
the
conditions
were
just
kind
of
stuck
on.
AF
According
to
the
code,
the
historic
preservation
commission
gets
to
chime
in
on
the
effect
of
the
proposed
subdivision
and
whether
or
not
it
is
consistent
with
standards
or
inconsistencies.
That
does
not
mean
they
get
to
impose.
If
you
isn't
on
any
proposed
subdivision,
it's
kind
of
a
yes
or
no
thing.
It's
not
a
view.
Easement
can
be
added,
so
staff
sticking
that
on
was
even
the
language
of
the
proposed
conditions
say
that
my
client
is
supposed
to
resubmit
plans.
AF
Clearly
I
don't
believe
you
can
have
a
subdivision
resolution
that
calls
for
my
client
to
resubmit
plans
for
a
subdivision
resolution.
It's
just
these
conditions
aren't
making
any
any
sense
and
are
contrary,
I
believe,
to
the
evanston
code.
So
I
would
like
you
to
proceed
with
this,
but
remove
these
conditions.
AI
Committee,
so
maybe
our
corporation
council
could
address
the
conditions,
particularly
the
alley,
vacation,
the
easement
issue.
AJ
Well,
I
think
also.
We
should
hear
it
good
evening,
kelly
gandersky
corporation
council,
good
evening,
alderman,
mr
jones.
I
think
scott
magnum
from
zoning
can
can
weigh
into
that
with
more
technical
efficiency
than
I
can,
but
I
will
say
that
the
issue
is
if
this
work
property
were
to
be
subdivided
the
way
that
the
city
sees
it.
AJ
I
know
it
may
not
be
mr
schweitzer's
intention
to
build
a
second
parcel
on
the
subdivided
land,
but
it,
but
if
the
property
were
subdivided,
my
understanding
is
nothing
in
the
future.
Should
he
convey
the
property
to
another
owner
would
prevent
someone
from
putting
a
parcel
on
that
second
plant
of
land
and
if,
if
so,
we
would
have
no
means
of
ingress
or
egress
from
that
property?
AJ
Aside
from
the
alleyway
and
right
now
as
it
stands,
anyone
who's
been
out
to
the
property,
knows
that
that
turnaround
and
that
alleyway
is
very
narrow,
and
so
the
city
has
a
concern
about
providing
city
services
and
having
access
to
that.
What
would
be
the
second
parcel
of
land
but
I'll?
Let
mr
magnum
weigh
in
on
the
other
issues
as
well.
Since
he's
worked
on
this
property
for
more
than
a
year
now,
megan.
T
Yes,
thank
you
good
evening.
So
the
specific
code,
sections
relating
to
these
conditions
deal
with
subdivisions
and
title
four
chapter
11..
It
states
that
there
should
be
a
report
by
the
director
of
public
works,
describing
the
public
improvements
available
or
required
to
serve
the
parcels,
and
then
the
city
council
may
condition
any
such
approval,
based
on
applicants,
dedication
to
the
city
of
any
land
required
for
public
streets,
alleyways
or
other
rights
of
way
identifying.
The
report
of
the
directors
of
public
works
utilities.
T
So
that
is
where
the
condition
regarding
the
alleywidth
came
from
and
as
far
as
the
condition
regarding
the
subdivision
view.
Easement
from
preservation
preservation
does
make
a
recommendation
on
subdivisions
the
recommendations,
the
design.
The
subdivision
shall
both
provide
location,
design,
new
structures
and
objects
that
are
visually
compatible
with
the
landmark
or
sites,
building
structures
and
objects
in
the
district
and
not
result
in
blocking
or
otherwise
obstructing,
as
viewed
from
a
public
street
or
public
way.
AF
I
could
briefly
address
both
of
those
I
mean
we
can
argue
these
in
court,
which
I
guess
maybe
that's
where
we're
gonna
head,
but
I,
the
historic
preservation
commission,
is
not
permitted
under
this
to
impose
a
view.
Easement,
it's
permitted
to
give
a
report
to
you
a
recommendation
whether
this
is
consistent
or
inconsistent.
AF
As
far
as
the
alley
dedication,
the
law
is
just
clearly
designed
for
new
developments.
If
they
need
to
put
in
alleys
or
new
developments.
If
they
need
to
put
in
streets,
then
the
developer
is
required
to
dedicate
that
property
to
the
city,
so
the
city
may
maintain
those.
This
is
an
already
existing
alley.
We're
not
dedicating
any
new
land,
for
this
is
an
already
existing
alley.
The
problem
is,
the
alley
is
partially
my
client's
property
and
always
has
been,
and
we've
been
trying
to
resolve
that
issue.
AF
My
client
has
agreed
to
accept
payment
of
the
appraised
value.
We've
obtained
an
appraisal
if
the
city
wants
to
purchase
that
sliver
for
the
appraised
value,
we
are
really
open
to
it
and
would
agree
to
that.
But
forcing
a
dedication
as
part
of
this
subdivision
is
heavy-handed
and
contrary
to
the
law,
so
we
could
end
up
in
court
if
you'd
like,
I
was
hopeful
that
we
could
resolve
this.
AF
I
still
hope
that
we
can
come
to
a
decent
resolution,
but
you
you
just
don't
come
up
with
lots,
this
size
for
single
family
homes
in
evanston.
Very
often,
as
you
know,
this
is
going
to
result
in
real
estate,
transfer
taxes,
building
permits
and
then
property
taxes
when
a
structure
is
put
on
there
of
probably
north
of
20
000
a
year
in
new
taxes.
So
it's
up
to
you,
but
this
I
can't
stress
enough
when
you
look
at
the
zoning
analysis.
This
lot
is
plenty
big
enough.
T
We
can
just
have.
The
city
code
allows
to
be
within
the
right
city
council
to
attach
conditions
of
dedication
within
the
subdivision
and
again
that
the
preservation
commission
did
make
that
recommendation
based
on
the
standards
and
the
view
would
be
available
for
the
landmark
structure.
B
And
we
do
have
view
easements
on
a
number
of
properties,
historic
properties
in
evanston,
another
one
bridge.
As
a
matter
of
fact,.
AJ
I
can't
this
is
kelly
gandersi,
I
can't
say
at
this
time
it
would
be
against
the
manifestoid
of
the
evidence,
which
is
a
pretty
high
standard
to
meet
on
review,
but
we
also
still
you
know.
There
are
some
zoning
issues.
Is
my
understanding
with
this
property
and
the
property
may
not
be
in
compliance
with
our
existing
zoning.
AJ
Be
that
as
it
may,
you
know
the
the
council
is
is
free
to,
of
course,
vote
how
it
wants
to.
I
understand
mr
jones
arguments.
I
think
mr
magnum's
points
are
well
made
and
I
think
I
think
the
council
is
within
its
rights
to
approve
the
conditions
if
it
wants
to
so
I'll.
Just
leave
it
with
that.
AF
B
AI
Well,
I
guess
I
do
want
to
just
make
a
couple
of
quick
comments.
I
was
disappointed
actually
that
the
preservation
commission
went
ahead
and
granted
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
subdivision,
given
that
they
they
had
requested
to
see
a
drawing.
I
mean
the
plan
of
what
the
house
might
be.
AI
That
would
be
on
the
second
lot
and
I
would
have
preferred
that
they'd
hold
off
on
granting
that
so
to
give
it
an
appropriateness
till
they
actually
could
see
what
was
being
proposed
to
be
built
there,
and
then
I
guess
my
really
big
concern
about
the
possibility
of
a
second
home
on
that
property
is
the
impact
that
it
would
have
on
that
very
narrow
alley.
AI
AI
To
add
additional
traffic
both
if
there
were
a
house
that
built
and
people
living
there,
as
well
as
just
the
idea
of
the
construction
traffic
to
actually
build
the
house
there,
I
just
think
would
be
inappropriate
and
a
you
know,
really
serious
burden
for
the
neighborhood.
So
I
I'm
going
to
be
voting
no
on
this
request.
AI
B
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
on
the
committee
all
right,
I
see
no
more
hands.
Ms
knighton,
would
you
call
the
role.
AE
R
R
B
All
right,
so,
the
the
resolution
fails
all
right,
p3
that
we're
finished
with
p3
now
we're
moving
on
to
p4
alderman.
AE
When
yes,
p4
and
p5
are
both
in
my
ward,
could
we
take
p5
first?
Yes,
thank.
B
You
first
I'll
read
it
in
it's
resolution.
C
Sorry
p5,
I
believe
that
was
that
was
already
voted
out
of
committee.
Is
that
correct
scott.
B
B
Go
right
ahead.
Would
you
like
me
to
read
the
item
first,
or
would
you
like
to
make
your
statement?
No,
why
don't
you
go
ahead
all
right?
This
is
ordinance
109
020,
amending
the
zoning
map
to
rezone
1900
sherman
avenue
from
the
r6
general
residential
district
to
the
c1a
commercial,
mixed
use
district
and
granting
a
special
use
permit
for
a
planned
development
at
1900,
sherman
avenue.
This
is
for
introduction.
I
move
introduction.
AE
Fisk,
yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
communicated
this
to
previously
to
the
mayor
and
and
alderman
nguyen
a
longtime
friend
and
treasurer
of
my
2021
revolution
campaign
that
he
is
employed
by
camaro's
limited
consultant
to
the
housing
authority
of
cook
county
on
the
1900
sherman
project,
to
avoid
any
appearance
of
a
conflict
of
interest
and
to
ensure
public
trust
in
the
process.
I
am
abstaining
from
the
discussion
and
vote
on
the
proposed
development
at
committee
and
at
council.
AE
V
Fisk
wilson.
A
V
A
And
I
appreciate
I
appreciate
the
extensive
comments
we
got
tonight.
It
was
it's
good.
Can
you
hear
okay,
I.
B
Apologize,
we
do
have
presentations.
B
Yeah
not
being
in
person,
I
I
don't
have
that
trigger
so
a
visual
reminder,
so
we
do
have
a
presentation
from
the
neighbors
and
a
presentation
from
the
developers.
So
why
don't
we
start
with
the
presentation
from
the
developer?
First
and
ms
knight,
can
you
tell
us
remind
us
again,
who
is
that
who
will
be
presenting
that.
AH
Well,
I
I
can
tell
you
this
is
william
james
from
camaros,
rich
monachio,
and
I
will
both
be
making
this
short
presentation.
AH
Thank
you.
So
we
do
have
a
10
minute
presentation.
We
understand
that
the
council
has
viewed
all
the
project
materials,
our
original
full
presentation
before
the
planned
commission
and
have
heard
public
comment
about
the
project.
This
presentation
will
really
focus
on
the
key
takeaways
from
all
of
that.
I
will
be
talking
about
the
technical
planning
and
zoning
aspects
of
the
project,
and
rich
menocchio
will
be
talking
about
the
affordability
aspect
of
the
project.
AH
AH
Yes,
okay,
and
so
there
were,
I,
I
think
well
first,
I'd
like
to
say
that
we
we
appreciate
all
the
support
that
we've
gotten
all
the
comments
in
favor
of
our
project.
We,
we
certainly
recognize
the
objectives
as
well.
I
think
there
were
some
inaccuracies
in
some
of
the
objectives.
Comments
we'll
address
some
of
them,
but
really
want
to
keep
this
at
a
high
level.
So
then,
are
we
in
presentation
mode
here
I.
AK
Appear
to
be
unable
to
go
to
full
screen,
none
of
these
tabs
are
currently
working.
Let
me
try
and
close
it
out
and
restart
it.
If
you
don't
mind
giving
me
just
one
minute.
AH
Give
you
a
couple
seconds
so,
while
ben
is
doing
that,
let
me
just
say
that
really
what
the
project
is
all
about
is
affordable
housing.
AH
AH
AH
It
was
done
that
way
in
the
distant
past,
with
very
negative
outcomes
for
the
people
who
lived
in
that
housing.
Creating
you
know:
a
concentration
of
poverty,
poor
outcomes
for
people
in
terms
of
education,
employment
and
economic
mobility,
the
way
moving
forward
to
provide
affordable
housing.
Thank
you,
ben
move
to
the
next
slide,
please,
and
in
the
next
slide,
the
way
to
to
do
affordable
housing
in
this
day
and
age.
The
best
practice
is
to
do
mixed
income
housing,
where
people
of
all
income
levels
live
together.
AH
Really
the
concentration
of
low
income,
households
into
100
percent,
affordable
or
low-income
housing
is
a
thing
of
the
past
and
hud
who
is
really
the
leader
in
terms
of
affordable
housing
policy,
emphasizes
mixed
income
communities
through
its
choice,
neighborhoods
initiative
so
calls
to
make
this
all
100.
Affordable
housing
is
really
the
wrong
way
to
go.
AH
We
think
that
this
particular
project,
using
this
innovative
financing
structure
that
harnesses
the
strength
of
the
evanston
market
to
subsidize
affordable
units
is
the
right
way
to
go
if
every
apartment
building
that
was
built
in
everything
had
20
or
30
percent.
Affordable
housing
we'd
make
a
big
dent
in
the
need
for
affordable
housing.
AH
We
didn't
use
tax
credits,
we
think
that's
a
great
achievement.
These
are
available
for
other
projects
in
the
region
and
we
think
that
this
could
be
a
model
for
other
developments,
and
not
only
will
this
provide
51,
affordable
housing
units,
but
they
will
be
provided
in
a
state-of-the-art
building.
A
top-of-the-line
building
with
the
affordable
residents
will
benefit
from
all
the
amenities
that
the
market
rate
people
benefit
from
next
slide.
AH
AH
We've
been
at
this
for
two
years
and
yes,
we
did
bring
a
11
story,
building
before
the
council,
for
for
advice
and
and
as
an
informative
staff,
probably
a
year
or
so
ago,
and
it
was
our
intention
to
to
do
an
11
story
building,
but
we
just
couldn't
make
it
work.
I
don't
think
we
ever
proposed
70
percent
affordable
the
most.
AH
I
think
we
ever
thought
we
might
be
able
to
get
was
50,
but
as
it
turns
out
as
we
actually
move
forward
to
get
conventional
financing
for
the
bank,
it's
become
a
minimum.
I
want
to
emphasize
a
minimum
of
of
20
percent
at
50
ami
and
the
10
percent
missing
middle.
AH
So
we
think
that
two-thirds
of
market
rate
and
one-third
affordable
is
really
a
very
healthy
ratio
of
affordable
to
market
rate,
and
I
think
you
should
appreciate
also
that,
since
the
adoption
of
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
as
we
understand
it,
all
developments
have
opted
to
pay
the
fee
in
lieu
of
nobody's
actually
provided
affordable
housing.
I
think
that
suggests
how
difficult
it
is
to
do,
and
only
a
government
entity
like
hacc
is
willing
to
do
it.
The
for-profit
developers
haven't
been
willing
to
do
it.
AH
Unfortunately,
we
can't
accommodate
every
concern
next
slide,
then
ben.
Thank
you
thank
you.
So
the
number
one
concern
we
we
couldn't
address
was
was
reducing
building
height
because
it
really
isn't
possible
to
do
this
and
still
retain
a
meaningful,
affordable
housing
program
to
reduce
building
height
would
reduce
the
number
of
market
rate
units
that
we
need
to
subsidize
the
affordable
units.
AH
The
reduced
microwaves
require
a
reduction
in
the
affordable
units
and
given
the
effort
and
the
commitment
of
resources
to
actually
make
to
actually
develop
this
building,
it
wouldn't
make
sense
for
hacc
to
do
a
building
that
had
only
you
know,
30,
affordable
units
or
35
or
horrible
units
or
25
or
4
billion.
So
we
think
51
is
kind
of
the
threshold
we
need
to
have
a
meaningful,
affordable,
housing
component.
Next
slide
hack
has
directed
the
project
design
team
to
mitigate
the
impacts
of
building
height
as
much
as
possible.
AH
We
think
we've
done
a
really
good
job
of
this.
There
are
these
six
points
you
see
here,
I'm
not
going
to
go
over
all
of
them,
but
I
think
we
really
have
done
as
much
as
we
possibly
could
to
to
break
up
the
mass
of
the
building
to
to
create
amenities
to
create
green
space
at
the
ground
level
to
mitigate
height,
and
obviously
you
were
the
judge
of
whether
we
have
done
a
good
job
with
that.
But
we've
really
spared
no
effort
in
trying
to
do
this
next
slide.
AH
And
when
you
look
at
building
height,
it
really
should
be
done
within
the
context
of
all
the
factors
not
just
height.
So
as
we
see
on
the
left-hand
view,
height
context,
west
view,
you
see
the
the
link
links
building
in
the
foreground
with
the
emerson
building
behind
it.
Yes,
it
is
taller.
We
don't
think
it's
a
huge,
a
huge
impact.
You
see
the
sherman
gardens
building
buildings
across
the
street
over
on
the
right-hand
side.
AH
You
see
a
ground-level
view
of
the
emerson
looking
from
west
to
east
at
sherman
and
emerson.
We
think
this
is
a
you
know.
A
very
attractive
view.
Contrast
this
to
the
lynx
building
that
has
no
greenery
at
all
in
front
of
it.
You
know
which
would
you
rather
have
a
16-story
building
that
looks
like
this
at
the
ground
level
or
a
10-story
building
that
looks
like
the
lynx
building
does
when
you
look
at
it
from
the
north.
We
see
the
jane
perlman
building
in
the
foreground
with
the
emerson
behind
it.
AH
Yes,
it
is
taller,
we've
really
achieved
a
lot
of,
I
think,
context,
sensitive
sensitivity
in
our
design.
The
brick
color
that
we
picked
is
a
very
similar
color
to
both
the
lynx
building
and
the
perlman
building
and
the
sherman
gardens
building
so
that
we
tend
to
blend
in
rather
than
contrast
with
these
other
buildings
that
surround
us,
and
I
think,
as
you
look
at
the
bottom
left-hand
corner,
we
do
think
that
this
is
a
beautiful
building
and
I
think
the
attractiveness
of
the
building
also
mitigates
the
height.
You
know.
AH
AH
AG
AG
First,
I
want
to
thank
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
allowing
us
this
opportunity,
and
I
agree
that
it's
you
know
really
good
to
hear
from
the
public.
That's.
This
is
what
it's
all
about.
We
know
there's
some
folks
who
don't
agree
with
us.
I'm
gonna
address
some
of
those
concerns.
I
think
because
there's
some
misunderstanding,
but
but
first
you
know
after
listening
to
all
this
and
it
really
dawned
on
me
this
word.
AG
Innovation
is
used
a
lot
and
unique,
but
it's
someone
that
has
been
doing
this
in
many
many
different
capacities
at
many
different
levels
of
government.
For
much
of
my
career,
I
can
tell
you
that
this
is
absolutely
unique.
That's
one
and
I'll
explain
why,
just
to
give
a
little
flavor,
it's
really
already
been
explained.
AG
That's
what
we
do
we're
not
masquerading
as
anything,
but
people
that
are
trying
to
to
to
fulfill
our
mission
and
we're
doing
it
smart,
because
we're
leveraging
the
land
that
we
have
so
it
makes
no
sense,
not
leverage
the
land
and
build
some
market
rate
units
on
this
site,
so
those
rents
can
subsidize
the
affordable
and
the
missing
middle
units
very,
very
difficult
to
build
anything
new
today,
regardless
of
what
you're
building
and
who
you're
building
it
for
so
you
know
make
no
mistake:
the
the
land
in
this
location
is
really
allowing
us
to
bring
the
51
affordable
apartments
to
downtown
evanston.
AG
That's
that's!
Why
we're
doing
it-
and
you
know
the
need
has
been
talked
about
a
little
and
I
heard
some
person
a
person
talking
about
our
waiting
list.
AG
The
voucher
waiting
list
wasn't
open
because
we
didn't
get
any
new
vouchers
from
hud
and
everybody
stays
in
their
unit,
because
housing
is
so
expensive.
The
first
day
we
opened
the
list,
it
was
28
000
applicants
now
they're,
sixty
thousand
the
need
is
massive.
Clearly
it's
massive
in
evanston
skokie
area.
Clearly
it's
massive
throughout
the
county.
AG
These
51
are
gonna.
Go
a
long
way
to
ameliorating
that
here.
The
other
thing
I
I
want
to
say
two
other
things
and
you
know
we'll
take
questions
pearlman.
AG
I
know
most
of
the
residents
of
berman,
alicia
hussah
knows
most
of
the
residents
occurring,
we've
been
to
pearlman
many
times.
I
know
so.
Folks
are
thrilled
with
their
new
apartments.
We
built
we
totally
rehabilitated
that
building
and
it's
a
beautiful,
beautiful
place.
So
I
would
take
you
know,
invite
anybody
into
the
building
with
me
take
a
tour
of
pearlman,
because
we
have
substantially
increased
standard
of
living
and
the
quality
of
life
of
life.
AG
For
those
folks
that
that
live
there
talking
about
tax
credits,
so,
first
of
all,
a
new
tax
credit
building
is
very
expensive.
Even
if
you
were
lucky
enough
to
get
the
credits,
you
still
have
to
come
up
with
30
extra
and
for
a
building
a
new
building,
that's
millions
and
millions
of
these
so-called
soft
hours
that
aren't
there
so
we'd
be
coming
to
the
city
of
evanston
we'd
be
going
to
the
state
we'd
go
to
the
county.
AG
We
we'd
be
going
every
everywhere,
but
it'd
be
very,
very
difficult
to
to
get
the
money
to
build
a
new
building.
It
just
would,
and
secondly,
as
I
said
before,
it
wouldn't
make
any
sense
bill
bill
just
showed
how
beautiful
this
building
is.
Tax
credits
are
great
they're.
The
only
way
really
in
this
country
that
affordable
housing
is
built
today,
but
tax
credit
buildings
are
no
frills,
no
frills.
This
is
a
huge
corner
in
evanston
that
we
have
proposed
using
our
land
and
100.
AG
AG
AG
So
these
are
absolutely
51
portable
apartments,
beautiful
apartments
and
in
a
mixed
income
context
which,
as
we've
heard,
is
absolutely
the
way
to
go.
But
economically,
there's
no
other
way
to
do
this
and
we
do
really
appreciate
evanston.
AG
I
have
to
say
in
closing
we
I
chose
evans,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
communities
in
our
jurisdiction,
but
I
think
evanston's,
the
best
one,
the
diversity,
the
capacity,
the
creativity
and
the
leadership
I
think
in
this
city
or
that
we've
gotten
and
the
help,
even
from
those
who
maybe
didn't
think
that
it
was
the
best
thing
from
from
the
mayor
to
all
of
the
elected
officials
to
the
staff
has
been
absolutely
extraordinary.
AG
So
I'm
very
confident
that
we
made
the
right
choice
and
I
respectfully
ask
for
your
positive
consideration
of
this
report.
B
Thank
you.
Does
that
conclude
your
your
presentation?
Yes,
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
Any
questions
for
the
the
presentation
presenters
from
the
committee.
B
If
you
alderman,
writing,
would.
B
Well,
why
don't
almond
rainy?
Why
don't
we
have
the
next
presentation
from
the
community
members
and
then
have
a
discussion,
but
the
staff
has
reminded
me
that
we
may
not
have
did
we
move
this.
I
I
would
like
to
whoops,
you
know
what
I
just
lost
it
off
my
computer,
so
okay,
wait.
I
Is
it
or
yes,
it
is
ordnance,
let's
see
ordinance,
109
020
avending
the
zoning
map
to
rezone
1900
sherman
avenue
from
the
r6
from
the
r6
from
the
r-6.
Let's
see
what
is
it.
I
D
B
AD
Good
evening
my
name
is
claire
wastel
and
I
live
within
500
feet
of
the
pearlman.
I
am
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
group.
1900
sherman
concerns
the
group
formed
in
response
to
receiving
this
postcard
at
the
end
of
august
to
notify
us
of
the
proposed
high-rise
building
going
before
the
plan
commission.
I
hope
I
proved
that
we've
done
our
homework
in
order
to
support
our
opposition.
AD
We
are
aware
that
as
city
council
members,
you
prioritize
housing
for
low
and
moderate
income
residents
as
a
goal
for
evanston,
and
we
thank
you
for
again
recognizing
that
citizen
need.
Therefore,
I'm
sure
you
were
as
surprised
as
we
were
to
discover
that
in
the
proposal
currently
under
consideration,
the
housing
authority
has
significantly
decreased
the
number
of
affordable
housing
units
they're,
offering,
while
significantly
increasing
their
expectations
on
changes
in
our
city
zoning
code.
The
developer
claims
they
are
giving
quote
immense
public
benefit
in
exchange
for
these
excessive
zoning
changes,
and
we
disagree.
AD
AD
We
believe
that
the
iho
compliance
and
the
public
benefit
should
be
discussed
as
separate
numbers.
The
public
benefit
the
housing
authority
is
offering
is
that
they
will
provide
17
units
at
a
reduced,
top-of-the-market,
rent
to
middle-income
households.
We
recognize
that
for
17
people
this
would
be
very
beneficial.
However,
we
disagree
that
this
is
the
best
the
housing
authority
should
be
expected
to
create
for
evanston,
especially
since
there
is
no
offering
at
the
city's
prioritized
moderate
income
level
of
50
to
80
percent
ami.
AD
When
we
received
the
postcard
neighbors
were
surprised
that
what
began
as
something
called
an
addition
have
become
a
16-story
additional
building
of
significant
bulk
and
scale
that
required
a
zoning
change.
The
developers
claim
that
the
c1a
zoning
is
not
a
problem
because
no
commercial
will
be
in
their
building,
thus
not
acknowledging
the
impact
their
building
will
have
on
overall
evanston
zoning.
The
housing
authority
cites
the
link
across
the
alley
from
their
property
as
justification
for
this
requested
c1a
change
and
then
claims
that
other
developers
would
not
further
cite
their
new
building
as
a
precedent.
AD
If
the
developers
of
the
link
claimed
their
building
would
not
set
a
precedent
for
zoning
or
height
and
they
cited
the
perlman
which,
when
constructed
in
1976,
also
came
with
assurances
that
it
would
not
set
a
zoning
precedent
because
it
was
an
affordable
housing
building
on
the
camera's
website,
it
is
stated
that
quote:
zoning
changes
appear
to
be
feasible
due
to
recent
zoning-related
actions
in
the
immediate
area.
Thus,
our
group
presumes
the
setting
of
another
precedent.
AD
AD
At
the
plain
commission
meetings,
many
citizens
ask
questions
and
presented
concerns
about
the
impact
on
the
immediate
vicinity
of
the
project.
The
standard
for
planning
development
includes
shall
be
compatible
with
surrounding
development
and
not
be
of
such
a
nature
in
height,
bulk
or
scale
as
to
exercise
any
influence.
The
developer
claimed
the
11
story
problem
and
building
to
the
north
matched
some
of
the
proposed
building's
height,
while
the
link
building
to
the
west
will
also
mask,
but
dapper
determined.
AD
The
developers
shared
this
image
for
the
scale
and
context
at
the
september
9
planning
commission
meeting
the
blue
in
the
center
is
the
existing
11
story.
Pearlman
and
the
glass
and
brick
on
all
three
sides
is
their
proposed
new
building.
It
would
clearly
impose
height,
bulk
and
scale
on
the
block.
The
red
square
represents
the
nearby
four
story,
brick
buildings
and
the
view
for
residents
on
sherman
to
the
north
and
the
neighborhood
to
the
east.
AD
We
believe
the
housing
authority
is
asking
for
special
privilege
to
create
their
prototype
by
making
excessive
demands
on
our
zoning
code.
At
your
recent
meeting
on
the
proposal
for
the
downtown
block
on
chicago
ab,
alderman
fisk
pointed
out
that
it's
important
to
walk
the
site
and
know
it
from
all
sides.
AD
Since
I
know
sherman
avenue
quite
intimately,
I
took
another
approach
and
walked
the
perimeter
of
downtown
to
get
a
clear
idea
of
the
context
as
part
of
a
perimeter
of
downtown
we're,
often
referred
to
as
a
transitional
zone
that
allows
for
buildings
to
step
down
in
a
height
as
a
transition
to
the
residential
neighborhoods.
I
saw
the
diversity
of
existing
buildings
and
construction
and
progress
such
as
another
new
senior
building
at
ridge
and
clark.
AD
I
noticed
that
the
mather
building
at
11
stories
is
the
tallest
that
is
positioned
immediately
across
the
street
from
downtown.
I
also
kept
looking
into
the
core
and
wondering
about
high-rise
heights.
I
learned
that
the
1900
sherman
project
would
be
the
10th
tallest
building
in
evanston
and
a
major
spike,
not
a
transition
and
outside
downtown.
AD
This
is
the
third
proposal
for
this
project.
The
first
in
the
left
column
was
a
presentation
in
2018
to
the
ward
about
an
addition
to
the
perlman
that
would
include
mostly
affordable
housing.
Next,
the
middle
column
represents
the
update
from
the
2019
city
council
special
session
on
affordable
housing.
It
was
presented
that
evanston
would
receive
60
units
designated
for
missing
middle.
The
current
proposal
is
on
the
right.
AD
While
the
housing
authority
has
increased
their
building
by
another
48
units
to
a
new
total
of
168,
they
have
significantly
decreased
the
number
of
units
to
help
middle
income
citizens.
The
building
has
now
flipped
to
a
70
top
of
the
market
rate.
Building
dapper
asked
for
clarification
and
questioned
the
balance
of
public
benefit
versus
building
height.
Their
report
found
that
the
developer's
compliance
with
the
iho
is
comparable
to
some
of
the
newer
developments
that
have
also
provided
on-site
senior
house,
affordable
housing.
AD
AD
The
dapper
report
continues:
building
height
versus
the
public
benefit
of
on-site.
Affordable
housing
is
a
concern.
The
maximum
allowed
height
with
the
site
development
allowance
is
97
feet.
The
number
of
missing
middle
units
decreased
from
50
percent
in
an
early
version
of
the
project
to
10
of
the
proposed
number
in
the
current
one.
The
developer
responded
that
the
numbers
of
the
units
have
quote
evolved
over
time.
It
appears
the
housing
authority's
2019
focus
on
housing,
for
the
missing
middle
has
shifted
the
plan.
AD
Excuse
me,
the
plan
commission
deliberations
seemed
tough.
They
were
clearly
aware
that
you
have
identified
affordable
housing
as
a
priority.
However,
their
comments
also
reflected
significant
concerns
about
the
balance
between
public
benefit
and
the
size
and
mass
of
the
building
about
the
bulk
and
zoning
changes.
We
have
to
go
through
to
make
this
work.
AD
AD
AD
Another
question
raised
at
the
planning
commission
meetings
was
regarding
prioritizing
evanston
residents,
our
iho
states.
It's
not
only
possible.
It
is
expected
if
there
is
a
reason
why
the
county
cannot
comply
and
prioritize
evanston's
iho.
We
respectfully
ask
why
the
city
is
considering
this
proposal
at
the
planned
commission
meetings.
People
cited
various
studies,
so
we
looked
at
the
ones
we
could
find
like
the
april
2020
study
done
for
the
city
by
jones,
lang
and
lasalle.
It
indicates
we
do
not
need
more
market
rate
units.
AD
Many
of
us
moved
to
this
block
after
the
promo
was
billed,
and
thus
we
were
aware
that
we
purchased
in
a
mixed
income
neighborhood.
That
also
includes
a
variety
of
housing
such
as
student
groups,
family
renters,
co-ops
and
historic
single-family
homes
across
the
alley.
We
view
each
as
an
asset
to
the
neighborhood.
AD
We
also
bought
with
the
confidence,
knowing
that
this
is
an
r5
block,
with
the
exception
of
the
r6
corner,
and
knowing
that
evanston
has
clear
zoning
ordinances,
the
developers
say
they
chose
evanston.
We
hope
it
is
not
because
our
zoning
ordinances
live
up
to
their
quote:
feasible
changes
that
they
advertised
on
their
website.
AD
The
bottom
line
is
that
evanston
is
being
offered
17
apartments
for
middle
income
in
exchange
for
a
permanent
high
rise
outside
downtown.
That
requires
a
change
to
commercial
zoning
in
a
residential
neighborhood,
and
it
requires
an
extraordinary
height
increase,
even
after
allowances,
for
compliance
with
the
iho.
AD
Two
weeks
ago,
your
committee
commented
that
anyone
should
be
able
to
look
at
emerson
zoning
codes
and
see
what's
allowed,
that
it's
how
we
live
and
work
together.
The
boundaries
should
be
respected,
so
we
know
what
to
expect
that,
like
that
proposal,
we
believe
your
comments
also
fit
here
that
it
is
too
much
until
too
little.
The
area
is
transitional
to
adjacent
residential
and
not
so
sensational,
an
additional
public
benefit
to
make
up
for
the
schedule.
AD
D
B
All
right,
thank
you
now,
committee,
it's
time
for
our
deliberations.
If
all
of
you
would
turn
on
your
your
video,
so
I
can
see
you
that
would
be
helpful.
A
Did
I
pre,
like
I
started
to
say
I
appreciate
the
level
of
feedback
we've.
I
think
collectively
heard
both
tonight
and
leading
into
tonight.
You
know
it's
clearly.
You
know
two
sides
to
a
question.
I
think
both
sides
have
done
a
lot
of
research
and
a
good
and
a
lot
of
thought
and
both
sides
have
some
very
legitimate
points.
So
then
we
have
to
kind
of
come
up
with
you
know.
Hopefully
it's
the
best
decision.
A
A
I
think
the
last
meeting
we
turned
down
a
building
because
we
didn't
feel
like
it
was
appropriate,
but
this
council
in
this
community
has
really
identified
and
focused
on
creating
affordable
housing
options
and
opportunities
and
for
the
most
part,
none
of
them
end
up
being
perfect,
and
this
is
an
evolution.
A
I
think
that
you
know
if
we
took
you
know
all
of
the
you
know,
complaints
for
any
given
project
and
applied
them.
What
would
happen
is
we
wouldn't
get
any
of
them
built
and
we
wouldn't
be
getting
any
of
the
affordable
housing?
A
I
appreciate
the
efforts
that
that
our
community
partners
have
been
putting
into
trying
to
assist
in
developing
alternative
ideas
and
concepts.
We've
tried
a
few
things
we
have.
I
think,
some
of
the
materials
that
mentioned
that
all
of
the
projects
had
that
none
of
our
projects
had
included
affordable
units
on
site,
but
that's
not
the
case.
We
actually
do
have
some
on
site
and
in
in
more
than
one
building
and
we're
getting
more.
So
I
appreciate
that
this
does
up
that.
You
know
up
that
opportunity
and
option.
A
So
you
know
again:
I've
tried
to
balance
this.
I've
tried
to
come
up
with
you
know
what
the
best
answer
is,
and
I
think
that,
as
as
housing
as
our
communities
and
as
our
population
are
evolving,
that
this
is
this
is
something
that
we
ought
to
go
ahead
and
be
supportive
of.
AI
Well,
I
do
have
a
question
for
the
a
housing
authority.
Folks,
so
is
it?
Is
it
not,
it's
not
possible
for
you
to
draw
from
our
existing,
affordable
housing.
Wait
list
to
fill
this
to
fill
this
building.
AG
Yes,
yes,
I'm
here,
so
we,
the
housing
authority,
administers
about
15
000
vouchers,
many
of
which
are
used
like
we're,
proposing
to
use
here
like
we're
doing
on
howard
street,
for
example
in
evanston,
and
we
do
what
we
do
in
it
all
over
the
suburbs.
The
reason
why
we
we
we're
not
going
to,
we
cannot
explicitly
give
a
local
preferences
because
it
does
create
some
fair
housing
issues
for
the
housing
authority.
But,
as
I've
said
many
times
and
and
will
repeat
here,
we
obviously
are
going
to
market
heavily
in
evanston.
AG
The
need
is
great
when
we
have
provided
project-based
vouchers
in
other
suburbs,
like
mount
prospector
chamber,
the
vast
majority
of
the
eventual
occupants
come
from
either
that
town
or
the
or
a
town
next
door,
so
we're
very
confident
that
the
the
affordable
units
will
be
occupied.
AG
AI
So
I
understand
that
then
for
the
project-based
vouchers,
but
the
middle
units
will
not
be
taking
advantage
of
those
vouchers.
Could
those
be
drawn
from
our
affordable
housing,
waitlist.
AG
AI
Is
that
something
that
you
would
agree
to
then?
Yes,
okay,.
B
I
just
want
to
make
this
stop
and
make
that
clear.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
So
mr
monochio
you're
saying
that
that
the
17
units
that
are
at
the
missing
middle,
those
would
be
those
would
be
going
to
evanstonians.
AG
We
we
will,
we
can
work
with
you
alderman
on
the
list
that
you
have
yes
to
draw
to
draw
residents
from
from
that
list
for
the
missing
middle
units.
Yes,.
AI
Okay,
yeah
that
that
would
be
very
helpful.
Yes,
I
guess
I'll
just
acknowledge
all
the
statements
that
we
heard
this
evening,
both
from
supporters
of
the
project
and
from
concerned
residents.
I
thought
the
supporters
of
the
project
were
extremely
persuasive
and
eloquent,
and
they
you
know
cited.
AI
AI
Our
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
talks
both
about
the
importance
of
affordable
housing
for
low-income
residents,
but
also,
we
very
definitely
talk
about
needing
to
provide
affordable
units
for
our
for
the
missing
middle
one.
One
source
of
income
information
that
wasn't
mentioned
tonight
is
the
outreach
work
that
the
affordable
housing
plan.
Commission
committee
did
last
fall
where
we
talked
to
a
number
of
residents
from
all
different
walks
of
life
in
evanston
to
just
to
find
out
what
people
thought
were.
The
real,
affordable
housing
needs
in
the
community
and
affordable
rental.
AI
Housing
for
low
and
moderate
income
was
just
on
top
of
the
list
from
almost
anybody.
We
talked
to
so
so,
there's
clearly
a
need
for
this
project.
I'm
really
pleased
that
it's
not
only
meeting
our
affordable
housing,
inclusionary
housing,
ordinance
requirement
of
20,
but
it's
also
adding
then
another
10
for
of
a
missing
middle,
affordable
housing
units.
I
I
recognize
that
the
building
is
taller
than
you
know.
I
would
have
preferred
and
the
residents
would
prefer,
but
I
do
think
high
density
residential
development
is
appropriate
for
this
location.
AI
I-
and
I
think,
if
it
were
a
shorter
building,
then
we
would
it
would
not
be
as
attractive
we'd
see
it
pushed
from
lot
line
to
lot
line.
We
would
lose
the
generous
setbacks
on
emerson
and
sherman
that
the
project
proposes
the
nice
landscaping
and
sort
of
a
semi-public
park
effect
right
there
on
the
corner.
I
think
it
will
create
a
much
nicer
pedestrian
environment
for
people,
and
I
guess
finally,
you
know
if
it
were
easy
to
secure
a
site,
secure
the
funding
and
build
affordable
housing.
AI
We
would
be
doing
it
a
lot.
We
would
be
doing
it
and
this
it's
clear
that
it
is
difficult
to
get
both
the
site
and
the
and
the
means
of
funding
it
for
as
they're
doing
with
the
market
rate
units
so-
and
I
do
think
greater
density
is-
is
going
to
be
a
key
to
being
able
to
develop
a
lot
of
the
affordable
housing
going
forward.
So
I
am
going
to
be
supporting
the
project.
B
Thank
you,
mr
minocchio.
B
Many
people
have
addressed
asked
the
question
tonight
about
the
change
in
the
building
concept
and
design
from
when
you
first
came
to
the
council,
and
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
what
has
caused
that
change?
AG
Yes,
and
and
trying
to
think
back
so
when
we
initially
thought
about
this,
the
idea
was
to
try
to
make
it
commensurate
with
the
building
we
already
own.
But
after
spending
a
year,
pretty
intense
year
of
of
analyzing
and
trying
to
come
up
with
a
model
that
worked
that
could
be
financed
and
we
could
afford
and
also
provide
some
scale
for
affordable
housing.
AG
It
became
clear
that
we
had
to
go
this
high
and
you
know,
as
I've
said
previously,
you
know
we're
not
saying
we
need
the
15
or
16
with
the
rooftop
just
to
negotiate
it.
No,
I
I
came.
I
came
back
to
the
the
group
with
a
with
a
you.
AG
Of
what
height
we
needed
in
order
to
not
only
provide
the
51
apartments,
but
so
that
we
could
get
it
financed
by
a
lender,
so
I
I
yeah,
I
think,
a
few
years
ago
there
there
was
the
discussion
and-
and
I
think
I
might
have
said,
an
affordable
housing
platform
meeting
on
a
monday
night
that
you
know
we
would
like
to
see
it
commensurate
with
the
building
next
door.
But
the
fact
is,
as
we
did,
our
due
diligence
and
explored
it
and
looked
at
the
financial
ramifications,
the
construction
costs
the
design
costs.
AG
You
know
it
became
clear
that
to
build
an
architecturally
significant
building
at
this
corner,
this
very
critical
corner
that
we
would
need
that
much
height
and
that
much
density
and
with
the
obvious
added
benefit,
the
main
benefit
of
this
entire
project
would
be
bringing
51,
affordable
apartments
on
a
site
that
would
otherwise
have
so
that's
alderman.
The
best
of
my
to
the
best
of
my
recollection.
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Would
anyone
else
like
to
speak
before
oldman
rating.
I
I
We
don't
always
hear
that
when
it
comes
to
a
new
development
and
to
hear
them
supporting
primarily
the
affordable
housing-
and
I
I
was
just
joyful
to
hear
sue
lowbach
agreeing
that
the
way
you
do
this
now
the
reality
is,
you
have
to
balance
market
rate
housing
with
affordable
housing,
market
rate,
housing
plus,
affordable
housing
gets
you
more
affordable.
Housing
is
the
formula,
and
I
I
liked
hearing
that
we've
all
known
the
the
firm
of
camaros
for
years
and
years
and
years
they
worked
on
our
zoning
ordinance.
I
I
know
I
know
bill
james.
He
lives
in
my
ward
and
he
is
about
as
scrupulous
as
you
can
get,
what
a
wonderful
person,
what
a
wonderful
professional
I
I've
known
rich
for
a
long
time.
He
was
very
supportive
in
the
building
of
the
howard
street
project,
which,
by
the
way,
probably
was
one
reason
why
he
didn't
want
to
touch
any
any
subsidies
from
ida
or
anyplace
else.
That
was
a
very
painful
project
to
put
together,
and
so
I
I
just
couldn't
be
more
supportive
of
this.
I
All
you
have
to
do
is
look
at
811
emerson
and
say
to
yourself.
That
is
why
we
have
to
embrace
more
height.
Height
is
not
a
bad
thing.
It
makes
for
more
beautiful
buildings.
There's
nothing
wrong
with
height
at
this.
At
this
location-
and
you
know
it
is,
it
is
a
very
good
looking
building.
I
think-
and
I
do
have
one
one
bone
to
pick
with
bill
james
on
this.
There
is
no.
There
is
no
no
information
that
tells
us
seniors.
Living
together
of
in
affordable
housing
is
a
negative
thing.
I
Maybe
when
it
comes
to
young
families
who
are
living
in
subsidized
housing
together.
Maybe
that
is
better.
I
would
agree
to
have
mixed
incomes,
but
seniors
actually
have
no
problem
living
together.
They
have
supportive
services
etc.
So
I
I
well,
I
think
it's
great,
that
seniors
do
live
in
mixed
income
housing.
I
I
don't
think
it's
a
negative
for
seniors
to
live
together
in
affordable
housing,
as
is
going
to
happen
on
howard
street,
but
I
I
just
think
you
know.
I
I
was
concerned
that
this
project
on
sherman
would
not
happen,
and
I
I
couldn't
be
more
happy
that
it
is
happening.
A
lot
of
good
things
happen
this
week
in
this
country,
and
this
is
this
is
one
really
special
thing
and
I
was
wondering
if
rich
had
any
insight
on
who's
going
to
be
the
next
director
of
hud.
AG
Alderman
rainey,
I
do
not
have
that
insight,
but
I'm
sure
it's
going
to
be
somebody.
Who's
got
a
great
commitment,
like
everybody
who
I've
heard
here
tonight
to
affordable
housing.
I
B
I
I'll
just
speak
briefly
about
to
give
my
my
opinion
about
this,
and
I
do
recognize
that
I
certainly
recognize
that
I
am
someone
who
has
been
very
reluctant
and
vocal
about
accepting
height
and
density
in
parts
of
anywhere
in
evanston,
and
certainly
in
our
last
meeting,
I
had
tremendous
objections
to
the
proposal
we
had
on
church
street
the
volume
and
massing
of
it
just
completely
overwhelmed
the
site
and,
I
think,
are
very
different.
B
What
has
a
very
different
effect
would
have
had
a
very
different
effect
on
the
immediate
neighborhood
to
this
one,
and
also
another
difference
to
me
is
the
that
project
at
our
last
meeting
was
the
public
benefits
were
almost
we're,
just
poetry.
There
was
nothing
there,
and
I
know
how
hard
this
council
has
worked
to
get
even
two
or
three
are
a
handful
of
affordable
units
and
the
difficulty
that
that
that
entails.
B
I
think
that
perhaps
the
community
doesn't
recognize
how
much
that
costs
and
how
hard
it
is
for
us,
as
a
city,
to
balance
off
or
or
make
headway
in
in
that
number,
that
huge
number
and
to
have
affordable
housing,
51
units
at
this
income
level
at
this
location
and
then
another
17
at
that
income
level
at
this
location,
which
is
easy
to
transport,
easy
access
to
transportation,
the
downtown
and
the
lake.
B
B
We
have
buildings
that
are
taller
than
we
think,
but
when
the
architectural
design
is
excellent,
you
don't
notice
the
height,
and
I
think
this
is
an
example
of
that.
B
Certainly,
it
is
taller
than
I
would
have
liked,
but
I
understand
the
financial
markets
are
not
always
very
friendly
towards
affordable
housing,
and
so
for
me,
the
value
of
51,
affordable
units
in
a
mixed
income
building
at
this
location
outweighs
the
the
height
issue,
and
I
do
think
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
this
you
left
some
green
space
and
that
it
is
a
tall
glassy
building
which
I
know
makes
a
difference.
So
balancing
that
for
me,
I
come
out
in
support
of
the
building.
So
thank
you
very
much
so
with
it.
AI
When
do
we
need
to
or
johanna
will
you
make
note
of
the
idea
of
the
middle
income
units
being
that
the
residents
be
taken
from
the
affordable?
Our
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
wait
list.
Is
that
something
that
we
don't
need
to
make
a
special
mention
of
right
now
or
should
do?
We
have
to
add
that,
as
to
an.
C
Emotion,
how
about
you
make
how
about
you
amend
the
ordinance,
make
a
motion
to
amend
the
ordinance.
AI
I
AI
B
Yes,
do
we
have
to
vote
on
that
amendment
first.
C
C
Alderman
fisk,
I'm
sorry
alderman
wayne,
hi
aldrin,
wilson,
hi
alderman,
sufferden.
R
B
C
B
B
I
believe
that
concludes
our
agenda
and
we
are
ready
to
adjourn.
Is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn.