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A
A
Want
to
welcome
everyone
to
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee,
it's
Monday
April
23rd,
it's
808
and
we're
ready
to
begin.
We
do
have
a
quorum
and
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
approval
of
the
regular
meeting
minutes
of
April
9th
2018
is
their
motion
to
approve
so
move
any
Corrections
or
changes
all
those
in
favor
say:
hi
I,
look
any
opposed.
B
A
One
signed
up
for
p1:
is
there
anyone
else
who
wanted
to
speak
tonight?
Who
is
not
on
here?
Okay,
but
I'm,
gonna,
close
citizen
comment.
First
item
is
p1
its
granting
vacation
rental
license
for
1500
Main
Street
city
staff
recommends
approval
of
a
vacation
rental
license
for
the
property
located
at
1500,
Main
Street.
It
meets
all
the
standards
and
procedures
for
license
approval.
It's
on
for
action.
Is
there
a
motion.
C
A
A
D
Spoken
to
the
applicants,
it
may
seems
to
make
sense
and
I
haven't
heard.
Any
issues
are
concerns
from
the
neighbors.
So,
okay.
A
Good
any
comments,
all
right,
all
those
unless
you
want
to
say
something,
I
mean
you're
more
than
welcome
to
okay.
B
E
B
B
A
F
Good
inion,
I
read
the
material
that
was
in
the
package
in
kana
was
confusing,
understand
some
of
the
changes
that
you
did
make,
but
is
this?
It
talked
about
how
about
making
a
district
or
historical
site
of
something
that
is
not
architectural
in
nature.
So
really
wasn't
quite
clear
on
how
that
was
going
to
be
fitted
in
with
the
regular
code
you
have,
and
the
state
regulation
about
historical
sites
and
things.
F
What
usually
is
architectural
and
if
you
do
happen
to
grant
a
section
of
the
community
historical
because
of
maybe
one
of
the
building
in
there
or
whatever
the
nature
will
be
that
you're
setting
to
be
able
to
do
this.
How
will
this
affect
those
properties
that
are
within
there
when
the
people
get
ready
to
do
something
to
their
homes?
Are
they
going
to
be
held
to
the
preservation
standard?
Do
they
have
to
come
and
talk
to
you?
It's
not
clear,
and
it
need
to
be
kind
of
spelled
out.
How
is
this
really?
F
F
What
am
I
going
to
be
facing
so
I
think
before
this
is
passed,
it
need
to
be
really
spelled
out,
and
so
that
one
would
know
these
facts
in
everything,
and
maybe
the
evasion
committee
could
do
a
presentation
on
this
so
that
we,
the
public,
can
understand
what
is
happening.
Are
you
moving
away
from
saying
the
architectural
in
the
community
we
want
to
have
both
architectural
and
historical?
Is
that's
what
you're,
saying
or
not
I
think
it
need
to
be
clarified.
A
F
A
Think,
thank
you,
mr.
staff,
do
you
want
to
comment
on
that?
Miss
Williams,
aye
you're,
currently,
chair
of
preservation,
are
you
still
chair?
Do
you
want
to
address
just
comment
on
that.
G
For
those
of
you
that
don't
know
me,
I'm
Diane,
Williams
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
Preservation
Commission,
in
terms
of
the
criteria
for
landmark,
designation,
whether
it
be
individual
or
a
district,
there's
been
very
little
changed
to
what
the
criteria
are.
Most
of
the
language
that
was
changed
in
the
new
ordinance
was
really
points
of
clarification
as
much
as
anything
else
in
terms
of
the
processes.
G
A
H
G
But
that
there
are
provisions
for
that,
but
in
terms
of
how
they
are
how
those
criteria
are
actually
described
in
the
ordinance
there's
very
little
change,
but
our
archeological
architectural,
historical
and
there's
also
provisions
as
there
are
in
most
ordinances
for
the
potential
for
association
with
a
particular
place
where,
with
people
or
with
a
particular
story
specific
to
Evanston.
Okay,.
A
P4
is
ordinance,
47
hold
18
amending
the
definition
of
coach-house
in
the
city
code,
section
618
three
staff
recommends
adoption
of
ordinance
4700
18,
to
modify
the
definition
of
a
coach
house.
A
previous
version
of
the
proposed
text.
Amendment
did
not
receive
a
recommendation
from
the
plan
commission
and
it
was
held
on
April
9th
until
tonight.
For
introduction
is
there
a
motion
to
introduce?
Is
there
a
second
okay,
so
I'm
going
to
open
that
up
for
discussion.
A
No
discussion:
okay,
okay,
all
right,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
all
right.
Moving
right
along
p5
is
ordinance.
40
Oh,
18
amending
the
city
code,
permitted
obstructions
and
required
yards
general
provisions
relating
to
front
porches
following
input
from
the
current
and
former
zoning,
a
Board
of
Appeals
chair
of
staff,
recommends
direction
from
the
committee
regarding
the
scope
of
amendments
to
the
front
porch
regulations.
A
If
the
front,
if
the
proposed
amendments
are
limited
to
sections
of
the
zoning
ordinance
that
were
included
in
the
plan,
commission
legal
notice,
ordinance
for
to18
can
be
approved
and
or
amended.
However,
if
the
committee
desires
to
amend
other
regulations
such
as
the
appropriate
determining
body
for
porch
variations,
author,
a
planned
Commission
meeting
would
need
to
be
Reno
'test.
Accordingly,
this
item
was
held
on
April
9th
until
tonight.
For
introduction
is
there
a
motion
to
introduce.
A
J
Slowly
start
moving
forward,
okay,
and
so
all
of
a
sudden,
where
you
used
to
have
maybe
20
foot,
was
the
average
setback
in
20
years,
suddenly
you're
at
15
feet
or
something
like
that,
and
so
we
had
spoken.
Basically,
we
had
come
to
this
board
about
a
month
ago,
a
little
over
a
month
ago,
I
guess
and
expressed
our
concerns
about
that.
We
were
asked
to
submit
a
memorandum
by
alderman
Winn,
who
was
currently
there
was
chair
at
that
time.
So
we've
submitted
that
and
we're
just
following
up
on
that
discussion.
What.
I
J
J
Enclosed
porch
suddenly
becomes
livable
space
and
then
the
next
owner
decides
they
want
to
have
a
front
porch
and
so
they're
putting
a
front
porch
in
front
of
what
was
a
front
porch
or
they
decide
that
they
want
to
add
a
second
story
on
top
of
what
was
a
front
porch,
but
is
now
considered
habitable
space
and
suddenly
you're
bringing
the
mass
forward
on
the
street
as
well.
Okay,
how.
I
J
It's
a
problem
and
how
we
do
things
and
in
comparison
to
other
in
other
communities
around
us,
and
there
are
certain
neighborhoods
that
this
this
would
never
impact.
There
are
other
neighborhoods
where
it
would
impact
some
of
the
larger
homes.
Obviously,
along
you
know,
Sheridan,
where
some
of
the
setbacks
are
very
great
would
never
really
be
impacted
by
this,
in
the
same
way
that
you
have
houses
that
were
built
much
closer
to
the
property
line
to
start
with.
J
J
A
I
had
a
question:
I
was
lightly
unaware
that
we
had
anything
less
than
a
twenty
seven
foot,
front
yard
setback,
and
so
I
was
a
little
bit
surprised
to
read
that,
in
fact,
we
are
moving
already
into
that
side.
Yard
I
mean
just
based
historically
on
neighbors.
That
I
know
who
have
at
some
point.
Let's
say
in
the
1950s
or
60s
their
front.
Porch
was
removed
and
they
wanted
to
add
it
back
and
they
actually
found
the
original
piers
for
the
front
porch.
They
they
were.
J
Way
of
instance,
ordinance
currently
is
written,
the
rule
for
not
does
not
matter.
Okay,
it's
whether
it
is
livable
space
or
an
enclosed
front,
porch
or
an
open
front
porch.
Any
of
those
definitions
would
be
the
same
in
terms
of
something
that
was
historical,
that
somebody
would
want
to
bring
back.
Obviously,
there
is
still
a
variation
process
that
people
can
go
through
and
in
the
time
that
I
served
on
GBA,
we
would
have
people
come
and
say
here's
a
picture
of
my
house
from
the
1920s
of
the
1940s.
J
This
is
the
historical
porch
that
was
on
it.
We
would
like
to
return
to
that,
and
that
makes
a
very
strong
argument
in
favor
of
granting
set
variance
because
it
is
restoring
the
home
to
its
natural
state.
What
what
we
were
looking
at
trying
to
prevent
is
this
encroachment
of
people
adding
porches
in
front
of
porches
and
just
slowly
starts
to
move
forward
right.
A
And
and
I
think
that's
important
and
it's
actually
helpful
for
us
to
hear
what
your
experience
has
been
as
a
as
a
board,
so
I
I
would
I
would
recommend
adoption
of
this
I.
Don't
know
how
everyone
else
feels,
but
I
I
do
think
the
front
yard
setbacks
are
a
real
important
part
of
what
sort
of
creates
the
entire
streetscape
of
of
Evanston
and
green
space
is
obviously
really
important
Aldrin.
When
did
you
well.
K
Oh
I
I
agree
with
you
on
this
and
I
do
think.
Given
the
fact
that
Evanston
traditionally
has
fairly
small
lot
sizes,
it's
very
important
to
maintain
as
much
green
space
as
we
have,
and
you
know
it.
It
reminds
me
of
the
fact
that
and
except
in
a
few
neighborhoods,
we
don't
permit
front
yard
fences
and
part
of
that
was
to
have
everyone
be
able
to
enjoy
each
other's
green
space
because
it's
limited
so
I
I
think
this
is
a
this
makes
sense
to
me.
K
J
I
J
Offended,
but
it's
not
necessarily
just
the
people
walking
down
the
sidewalk.
Remember
it's
your
neighbors!
It's
the
whole,
that's
the
it's!
It's
the
block
itself
and
so
we're
not
we're
not
saying
that
anybody
anybody
can
come.
You
could
come
and
propose
building
your
front
porch
right
up
to
the
sidewalk.
If
you
so
chose
I
am
pretty
confident.
I
J
J
Porches
were
always
one
of
the
ideas
behind
front
porches
was
to
get
eyes
on
the
street
to
get
people
engaging
with
their
community,
so
I'm
sitting
out
on
the
front
porch
having
a
drink
and
watching
what's
going
on
in
the
street,
so
that
deters
any
criminal
activity.
It
helps
with
keeping
track
of.
What's
going
on
in
my
neighborhood
encouraging
people
to
talk
to
each
other,
the
thing
that
we've
seen
over
the
years
is
that
front
porches
are
no
longer
serving
that
same
purpose.
People
have
moved
to
the
backs
of
their
houses.
J
People
have
huge
debts
now.
So
if
your
choice
is
between
sitting
on
a
5
or
6
foot,
front
porch
you're
sitting
on
a
20
foot
deck,
most
people
are
moving
to
the
back
of
their
house
where
they
can
barbecue
where
they
can
watch
the
kids
play.
So
it's
a
change
that
has
occurred
over
time.
So,
while
we
feel
front
porches
are
important,
they're
no
longer
serving
the
purpose
that
they
at
one
time
did.
K
It
was
much
more
of
a
shared
green
space.
So
that's
why
I
I
think
it's
important
that
it
isn't
a
about
the
look
it's
actually
about
how
the
homeowners
enjoy
it
and
I
and
I
do
think
that,
as
I
said,
establishing
these
guidelines
now
means
that
we're
not
we're
really
creating
what
the
space
is
that
that
everyone
can
know
that
they
can
move
into
and
it'll
stay
that
way,
because
that's
our
zoning
ordinance.
K
I
K
My
point
is:
that's
that's
what
zoning
is
all
about?
A
social
compact
between
residences,
it's
like
there's
a
sense
of
like
alright
I
know
what
you
can
build
on
your
property,
and
you
know
what
I
can
build
on
my
property
and
we
both
purchased
our
properties,
knowing
that
so
and
that
this
is
going
to
be
the
general
outline
of
the
of
my
neighborhood.
K
So
when
we
have
exception
and
exception
and
exception,
then
it
the
social
compact
of
I'm,
buying,
I'm,
buying
or
living
in
the
neighborhood
that
I
know
is
zoned,
r2
or
I
know
is
owned,
are
three
that
that
loses
its
meaning
when
we
have
exceptions
and
variances.
So
once
we
have
a
guideline
like
this
or
make
a
change
and
say
this
is
this
is
going
to
be
how
front
porches
are
done?
We
are
going
to
maintain
a
set
back
from
the
street,
then
people
can
count
on
that
and
rely
on
that.
D
You
all
right,
I
think
you
inadvertently
now
talked
me
out
so,
but
you
know
I,
like
the
idea
and
I
enjoy
I
appreciate
you
and
enjoy
the
idea
of
people
being
out
in
the
yards
and,
being
you
know,
engaged
in
what's
going
on
around
them
and
I,
when
this
was
first
kind
of
floated,
I
felt
like
well,
you
know
what
this
I
feel
like.
This
is
pushing
people
out
of
the
front
yards
and
into
the
backyards
and
and
I
and
I
think
just
participating
in
the
conversation
here.
D
Listening
I
feel
like
that's
really
one
of
the
unintended
consequences
that
is
likely
to
result
from
this
I'm
also
concerned.
It's
not
going
to
be.
It's
gonna
have
a
greater
impact
in
certain
neighborhoods
in
the
in
the
city,
so
you
know
on
Sheridan
Road,
it's
not
gonna
have
any
impact,
but
other
neighborhoods.
It's
going
to
have
a
pretty
significant
limitation
on
what
people
can
do,
and
you
know
six
front
foot
porches,
you
know.
That's
not
so
big
I
mean
if
you
want
to
hang
out,
that's
not
much
space.
So
you
know
I.
D
J
We
actually
extended
that
to
a
seven
foot
front
porch
for
four
homes
that
could
accommodate
a
larger
front
yard
and
that
that
number
was
created
by
staff
coming
up
with
the
idea
that
that
was
what
would
be
needed
for
people
to
have
a
small
table
and
chairs
around
that
table
on
their
front
porch
and
so
a
number
of
the
homes
that
have
been
granted.
That's
our
front.
J
Porch
variations
recently
have
gotten
a
six
foot
front
porch
and
on
most
homes
in
the
city
of
Evanston,
we're
granting
somewhere
in
the
five
to
six
foot
range,
which
is
what
is
kind
of
standard
for
most
of
the
communities
around
us.
And
so
that's
why
we
came
up
with
our
numbers,
as
opposed
to
the
numbers
that
were
presented
by
Planning
Commission
I
get.
D
J
Currently
and
I
don't
see
any
Oh,
maybe
mr.
Mangum
can
act
actually
answer
this
for
us
I,
don't
believe
we
currently
have
a
minimum
setback
in
the
front
yards
unders
under
our
current
ordinance.
Do
we
know
no,
no,
no
I'm,
sorry
in
terms
of
being
able
to
encroach
into
the
front
yard,
because
we're
proposing
that
it
always
be
10
feet
always
be
allowed
there.
So
nobody
could
build
8
feet
from
their
front
property
line
and
I,
don't
believe
we
currently
have
that
in
our
zoning
ordinance.
E
Good
evening,
madam
chair
aldermen
should
back
up
a
little
bit,
so
we
do
have
a
front
yard
setback,
that's
required
for
all
properties.
Generally,
it's
27
feet,
but
depending
on
where
other
properties
on
the
block
are
located,
it
could
be
less
right
based
on
that
average.
So,
right
now
our
zoning
ordinance
allows
a
projection
of
up
to
10%
of
that
required
setback.
That's
for
items
like
roofs
and
eaves
and
chimneys
and
bay
windows.
Things
like
that
that
could
project.
E
A
So
if,
let's
just
say
our
no
block
of
ten
houses,
if
various
houses
ask
for
new
porches
and
it's
pushed
out
and
then
suddenly
there's
an
empty
lot
with
new
construction
on
it,
you
would
look
at
an
average
of
the
setbacks
of
the
houses
on
the
block.
So
a
new
house
may
not
have
a
27-foot
setback.
It
may
be
based
on
the
average
of
the
houses
that
have
had
these
additions
on
it.
That's.
E
E
A
Well,
I
I
just
see
that
over
time
this
can
really
change
the
character
of
a
neighborhood
I
mean
suddenly.
Instead
of
the
setbacks,
where
things
are,
you
know,
you've
got
different
styles
of
houses
and
but
they're
set
back.
So
the
green
spaces,
as
alderman
Wynn
was
saying,
was
something
that
was
enjoyed
by
all
suddenly
this
sort
of
disappears
and
I'm
concerned
about
that
is
that
is
that
the
concern
that
you
guys
are
having
it
CBA
so.
A
J
The
house,
the
front
of
the
house,
is
what
determines
that
27
feet.
Okay,
all
right,
so
the
porch
is
not
included
into
that
unless
that
porch
is
converted
from
an
enclosed
porch
into
livable
space,
and
then
that
moves
it
forward.
Okay,
but
otherwise
the
front
of
the
house
is
the
is
what's
used
to
average,
not
the
porches
right.
C
B
C
A
Okay,
great
I,
thank
you
all
very
much
and
if
you
come
up
with
specific.
H
H
A
J
A
That
was
fun:
okay,
we're
going
to
p6
ordinance,
5800
18,
granting
a
special
use
for
a
type
2
restaurant
Falcon,
Eddie's
BBQ
at
8:25,
Church
Street,
Zoning,
Board
of
Appeals
and
city
staff
recommended
option.
Granting
a
special
use.
This
is
in
the
D
to
zoning
district
applicant
has
complied
with
all
zoning
requirements
and
meets
all
of
the
standards
of
a
special
use
for
this
district.
It's
on
our
agenda
for
introduction.
Mr.
A
Pomerance
is
here
tonight
and
he
did
speak
with
staff
last
week
and
unfortunately,
it
reached
out
to
me
for
some
reason:
I
didn't
get
the
communication
asking
that
this
be
on
for
suspension
of
the
rules
so
introduction
and
approval
tonight.
So
as
as
much
as
I
don't
like
to
do
that,
I'm
going
to
suggest
we
do
that,
and
it's
all
done
before
I
finish
talking.
It's.