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A
Welcome
to
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee
meeting
I
want
to
make
one
announcement.
The
matter
of
1726
Hinman
is
going
to
be
held,
the
request
of
both
the
applicant
and
the
property
owner.
So
if
you're
here
for
that-
and
you
didn't
want
to
speak,
you
can
stay
and
enjoy
the
show
or
you
can
go
home
and
have
a
good
evening
or
you
can
stay
and
speak
alright.
A
So
just
yeah,
June
12th
will
it'll
it'll
absolutely
be
on
our
agenda.
No
continuances
it'll
be
heard
on
June
12,
so,
okay,
so
welcome
to
the
meeting.
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming.
First
item
on
our
agenda
is
a
call
to
order
decorate
declaration
of
corm.
We
do
have
one
first
item
on
our
agenda.
Is
approval
of
the
minutes
of
April
24?
A
We're
going
to
go
we'll
we'll
use
our
same
method
as
we
use
in
administration.
Public
Works.
First
item
on
our
agenda
is
p1
community
partners
for
affordable
housing,
application
for
home
and
affordable
housing
lending
I
think
we
have
people
signed
up
for
p1.
So
with
the
committee
mind,
if
we
have
our
speakers,
okay,
first
person
is
sue,
Carlson
sue,
so
to
speak.
We
have
sue
Carlson,
Sherri,
shamble.
A
C
Many
of
you
know
I'm
an
advocate
for
affordable
housing
and
particularly
an
advocate
for
the
Community
Land
Trust,
affordable
housing
model
and
I
want
to
point
out
that,
first
of
all,
the
affordability
standard
for
the
Land
Trust
is
99
years.
So
when
we
start
figuring
out
what
the
cost
for
these
affordable
units
are,
we
need
to
take
that
into
account
and
I
was
looking
at
the
three
hundred
and
twenty
six
thousand
dollars
in
affordable
housing
funds
in
Evanston's,
affordable
housing
funds,
that's
being
asked
for
and
I
also
took
a
look.
C
Well,
we've
got
two
three
bedroom,
affordable
rental
units,
we're
proposing
over
99
years,
I
figured
that
something
on
the
order
of
five
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
people
to
live
in,
affordable
housing.
That
seems
like
a
pretty
good
investment
to
me
and
so
I'm,
hoping
that
you
folks
will
support
that.
Thank
you.
D
Hi,
my
name
is
Shari
Chandi
and
I
live
at
14:26,
Fowler
Avenue
I
am
excited
and
glad
that
I
was
able
to
get
an
affordable
unit.
I
have
a
large
family
I
have
a
three-bedroom
and
I.
Have
a
disabled
son
I
have
lived
in
Evanston
for
18
years.
I
have
rented
that
entire
time,
so
to
be
able
to
have
something
as
mines
and
to
give
that
opportunity
to
the
next
person
when
I'm
able
to
move
out
of
it
into
something
else.
D
A
E
Hi,
my
name
is
carly
shay
Spencer
I
am
a
resident
of
1409
Darrow
Avenue
before
affordable
housing,
I
have
four
children
I'm
a
single
mom
before
affordable
housing.
It
was
very
hard.
The
number
one
the
price
to
rent
in
Evanston
I,
want
to
stay
in
Evanston
because
of
school.
The
price
to
rent
in
Evanston
is.
E
It's
a
lot
for
four
children
and
being
a
single
mom
I
work
with
not
sure
eirick
Glenbrook
hospital,
but
it
was
very
hard
to
afford
something
that
can
fit
all
my
family.
My
family
for
children
me
two-bedroom,
1100,
before
affordable
housing,
I
couldn't
afford
anything.
It
was
like
we
were
keep
moving
because
we
couldn't
find
anywhere
suitable
that
we
could
afford.
So
when
I
met
Amy,
it
was
amazing.
She
introduced
me
to
Antipa.
E
Tell
me
about
the
program
we
signed
up
the
cost
to
rent
a
house
three-bedroom
right
now,
I'm
paying
nine
hundred
and
seventy
five
dollars
in
Evanston
is
two
thousand
dollars
to
rent
a
home.
So
my
kids
are
drivin
this.
They
are
more
comfortable,
they
have
their
own
room,
you
know
it's,
they
need
funding
and
to
give
someone
else.
A
single
mom
like
me,
an
opportunity
so
they're,
comfortable
and
shouldn't
not
everyone
have
money.
You
know
thanks.
F
I'm
Tucker
of
1941,
Jackson
I
think
there's
a
great
need
for
programs
like
this
me
having
this
house
I've
rented
most
of
my
life
in
Evanston
and
I've
had
much
less
space
spaces
that
were
not
nearly
as
nice
and
paid
a
lot
more
to
provide.
My
son
with
a
place
that
he's
confident
in
and
comfortable
in
at
a
at
a
price
that
I
can
afford
is
very
important.
Not
only
that
Amie
Kaufman
and
other
people
in
the
friend
community
partners
really
kind
of
us.
F
Nice
housing,
I,
just
people
in
my
neighbor
I
mean
there's
this
houses
in
my
neighborhood,
where
people
are
renting
in
the
the
owners.
Don't
don't
really
show
that
many,
you
love
any
care,
basically
slumlords.
We
know
that
that's
going
on
and
shouldn't
be
like
that
people
should
be
able
to
have
a
nice
place,
and
we
should
invest
in
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
Good
evening
my
name
is
Tina
Payton
and
I'm,
actually
talking
about
p2
the
tenant
based
rental
assistance
program.
Currently
we
have
five
tenants
on
the
program.
There's
11,
total
and
two
are
getting
ready
to
graduate.
One
of
our
tenants
is
getting
ready
to
graduate
and
she's
done
very
well.
She
finished
her
college
degree
and
she
is
now
a
caseworker
and
she
is
a
social
worker,
so
she
helps
others
do
what
the
program
has
done
for
her,
so
I'm
very
proud
of
her
I'm
glad
that
she
followed
instructions
and
indeed
what
the
program
required.
G
G
The
landlord
what
I
like
about
the
program
that
is
close
on
it,
like
I
work
with
the
caseworker
Maria
she's,
very
good,
with
the
clients
and
landlord
context.
So
if
there's
any
problems
with
the
family
and
the
landlord
or
there,
she
will
always
work
it
out.
So
I
work
closely
with
Maria
and
she's
done
a
very
good
job,
so
I
hope
that
she'll
be
able
to
release
the
money
to
have
more
families
on
the
program.
So
your.
G
Another
and
it's
effective
yes
and
I've,
been
my
family,
has
a
rented
since
the
inception
of
the
program.
We've
had
approximately
ten
families
on
the
program
so
far,
and
several
of
them
have
graduated
through
and
went
to
purchase
their
own
place
or
rent
on
their
own
and
they
had
children
graduate.
We
had
a
family,
we
were
the
only
ones
to
house
a
family
of
nine.
It
was
a
mother
and
her
husband
and
seven
children,
so
we
housed
them
for
two
years
and
they
both
finished
school.
A
H
Thanks,
my
name
is
Lee
Smith
I
reside
at
1632,
South
Boulevard
in
Evanston
I'm,
the
vice
president
of
the
board
of
community
partners
for
affordable
housing
and
have
been
involved
with
the
organization
in
one
way
or
another
since
its
inception
and
I'm
here
tonight
to
request
that
you
support
the
funding
that
has
been
requested
by
the
organization.
To
repeat
what
sue
Carlson
said.
H
Also
in
an
organization
that
has
a
proven
track
record
with
the
city
over
a
number
of
years
now
and
is
working
towards
becoming
a
vital
community
institution
in
terms
of
providing
affordable
housing
for
a
diverse
range
of
households.
In
Evanston
both
for
home
ownership
and
for
rental
housing,
there
are
not
many
organizations
that
are
doing
that
in
the
city
at
this
present
time.
In
fact,
one
of
the
ways
that
this
organization
becomes
an
institution
not
only
for
the
community
but
for
its
residents
is
we
provide.
H
The
organization,
provides
financing
workshops
for
home
for
home
finance
and
home
budgeting
type
of
workshops
for
its
residents.
Home
maintenance
works
out.
They
get
the
community,
the
renter's
and
the
homeowners
involved
in
community
picnics
in
community
parades.
So
it's
not
just
these
people,
the
renter's.
H
The
tenants
are
less
to
sort
of
make
do
with
their
own
devices,
while
they're
in
the
housing
that
SEPA
provides,
but
in
fact,
Seaport
provides
a
community
and
it
helps
build
the
homeowner,
the
the
renters
towards
success
in
their
rental
tenancy
and
hopefully
move
towards
moving
out
of
the
rental
and
into
possibly
homeownership
either
provided
by
seapower
on
the
regular
market.
But
we
look
at
this.
H
H
Just
to
reiterate,
the
rents
in
these
units
for
three-bedroom
units
will
be
between
nine
hundred
nine
hundred
seventy
five
and
a
thousand
dollars
a
month.
Typically
in
Evanston,
a
household
cannot
find
a
rental
for
a
three-bedroom
unit
for
less
than
fifteen
hundred
dollars
a
month,
and
it's
not
that
these
rentals
will
be
in
any
way
substandard.
These
units
will
be
fixed
up
and
impeccable,
and
the
organization
is
here.
H
The
board
is
composed
of
members
of
this
community,
the
communities
of
Lake,
Forest
and
Highland
Park,
where
this
organization
has
been
around,
and
you
could
speak
to
any
I.
Think
of
those
kids,
City
Council
people
plan
commissioners
involved
in
those
communities
and
ask
them
about
the
track
record
of
this
organization.
You'd
find
it's
an
excellent
track
record
and
an
organization
that
is
well
worth
the
investment
of
the
city's
funds.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
H
So
it's
five
approximately
five
hundred
seventy-five
thousand
dollars
of
government.
Finding
that's
why
you
requested-
and
you
know
over
the
course,
as
Miss
Carlson
said
over
the
course
of
the
99
years,
it's
approximately
five
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
three
units
and
at
the
end
of
this
time,
the
community
organization
still
owns
the
land.
Still,
you
know,
owns
the
building
and
be
able
to.
You
know
way
off
down
the
line
utilize
that
further
and
and
some.
H
H
A
Jim
Cole
bus
is
Magic
right.
You
love
to
think.
Okay,
all
right.
Anybody
else
wish
to
speak
before
we
get
started.
Okay,
thank
you
alright.
So
we
have
community
partners
for
affordable
housing,
application
for
home
and
affordable
housing
funding
approval
discussion
and
when
it
hasn't
been
a
chairman
for
a
while,
so
bear
with
me
on
the
lights,
all
right
go.
I
Okay,
the
difficulty
I
had
before
and
I'm
still
kind
of
struggling
with
is
the.
Of
course
it
is
the
cost
for
the
number
of
units.
Obviously,
we
want
to
have
as
great
an
impact
as
possible
for
for
the
amount
of
funds,
and
you
know
kind
of
looking
myself
a
little
bit
also.
We
appreciate
them
the
market
analysis,
which
reflects
essentially
what
out
of
curiosity
I,
saw
myself
in
the
market.
I
It's
just,
it
really
gives
me
pause
to
dedicate
the
whole
five
hundred.
Seventy
nine
thousand
for
the
two
units
I
understand
that
the
the
understanding
is
that
it
would
be
for
ninety
nine
years,
I,
honestly,
I'm,
I,
don't
really
know
I,
don't
have
a
super
high
degree
of
confidence
that,
in
50
years
circumstances
aren't
going
to
change
so
I
have
a
little
bit
of
a
difficult
time.
You
know
mentally
committing
to
the
idea
that
that
this
will
be
in
place
for
the
99
years
or
that
it
would.
I
You
know
that
the
subsidy
would
be
where
the
cost
would
be
the
same.
It's
it
it's
it's
to
me.
It's
largely
unpredictable.
You
know.
If
you
get
a
certain
period
of
time
out
the
road.
J
Well,
I've
said
over
time
on
the
council
that
the
problem
that
I
have
with
the
affordable
housing
that
we've
been
doing
is
part
of
our
development
plans
is
that
the
units
are
not
affordable
in
perpetuity
and
I.
Think
99
years
is,
as
close
to
perpetuity
is
good.
We're
going
to
find
at
least
it's
our
perpetuity,
so
I
I
agree
with
you.
I
think
the
cost
is
extraordinarily
high,
but
I'm
I'm
willing
to
go
with
that
because
of
the
99
years
and
because
I
think
that
we
really
need
this
for
larger
families.
J
L
Good
evening,
thank
you
very
much
we're
doing
very
similar
things
in
Highland
Park.
Our
newest
grant
is
for
four
rental
units
and
those
will
be
a
mixture
of
we
don't
know
we
haven't
identified
whether
they'll
be
some
of
them
will
be
for
family.
Some
of
them
will
be
two
bedrooms,
there's
a
little
more
two
bedrooms
that
are
very
close
to
the
Train.
That
would
be
helpful
for
a
couple
of
people
that
we
have
on
our
waiting
list
and.
L
Park
gives
us
every
year.
It
depends
on
how
many
units
we
have
scheduled,
but
this
year
was
four
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
four
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
do
to
go
towards
this
project,
and
then
lake
county
puts
in
they're
matching
it
with
it's
a
little
over
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
they
put
and
they
also
plunder
operating
they
fund.
Eighty
five
thousand
a
year
to
are
operating
to
do
projects
in
Highland
Park
in
Lake
Forest.
L
We
do
we,
we
have
five
senior
rental
units
there
and
but
the
next
project
there
is
scheduled
to
be
a
home
to
purchase.
So
we
don't
have
any
any
rental
right
now
on
the
horizon
for
Lake
Forest,
but
we
just
completed
that
the
AG
grant
that
we
did
with
we
partnered
with
the
city
of
Evanston
and
brynn
Shore
and
with
the
Attorney
General
money,
and
we
did
ten
units.
L
We
had
the
AG
money
with
that,
so
that
made
that
a
little
more
affordable
for
the
city
of
Evanston
and
because
we
were
combining
those
pots
of
money
it
also
when
it
started
was
at
a
time
when
acquisition
costs
were
down
and
construction
was
almost
nil.
You
know,
so
we
were
getting
great
prices
for
our
construction.
My
last
house
that
we
did
that
we
finished
up.
It
was
actually
Sherry's
house
on
fowler
street
back
in
the
construction
cost
in
that
house.
World
was
over
two
hundred
thousand
and
we
paid
165
for
that
house
the.
L
So,
as
the
economy
got
better,
it's
getting
a
little
harder,
and
so
it's
it's
a
great
thing
that
housing
prices
are
going
out
and
that
construction
is
going
up
because
it
means
the
economy
is
getting
better,
but
it
makes
our
job
just
a
little
more
comfortable
and
we
work
with
a
realtor,
and
we
do
that
in
all
of
our
communities.
They're
very
versed
on
what's
going
on
and
I
also
have
my
real
estate
license
and
have
done
lots
of
development.
L
We
didn't
just
pull
those
numbers
out
of
the
sky
I
the
first
application
I
submitted,
those
were
listing
sheets
from
projects,
I
looked
from
projects
I
looked
at
and
we
anticipated
what
the
cost
to
rehab
them
and
we
kind
of
did
a
middle-of-the-road.
We
had
some
prices
that
were
a
little
bit
lower
and
some
that
were
higher,
so
we
kind
of
went
in
the
middle
of
hoping
to
get
that
project.
L
This
is
an
estimate
because,
of
course,
we
can't
go
out
and
buy
anything
until
we
have
city
approval,
so
it
is
an
estimate
and
we
it's
an
educated
estimate.
Obviously,
if
we
can
find
a
property
that
we
can
do
cheaper,
we
certainly
will
I
mean
we
agree
with
you.
It
costs
a
lot
of
money,
and
but
this
is
when
you
develop
in
high
opportunity
areas
and
we're
seeing
this
in
all
of
our
in
Highland
Park
and
in
Lake
Forest.
It
becomes
more
difficult
for
us
to
do
that
and
we
do
not
do
big
big
rental.
L
L
A
L
L
A
L
Correct
you
know
the
thing
about
rental
is
because
of
the
regulations,
and
it
should
be
very
a
concern
for
all
of
you.
Is
it
isn't
just
that
first
upfront,
money
that
we
have
to
spend
is
we
have
to
show
that
we
can
have
this
property
can
sustain
itself
for
you're
on
the
hook
for
15
years
to
HUD,
when
when
we
do
a
rental
unit,
when
it's
a
rehab,
so
it's
it's
making
sure
that
we
have
enough
operating
in
it
but
that
it
performs
out
and
that
each
year
it's
paying
you
know
it
can
sustain
itself.
L
L
So
what
we
did
with
this
property
is,
we
received,
you
can
receive
up
to
twelve
percent
of
developer
fee
and
we
did
six
instead
of
the
twelve
and
we
put
ten
thousand
of
that
developer
fee
into
the
reserve.
So
we
have
money
for
the
capital
improvements
down
the
road.
The
last
thing
you
want
is
to
have
rental
units
where
they
can't
sustain
themselves.
So
there
is
a
cost
to
that.
We
take
very
little.
We
take.
L
My
operating
budget
is
at
minimal,
really
we
taking
$100
management
fee
for
the
year
and
basically
that
probably
won't
cover
the
credit
checks
or
any
you
know.
So
we
we
realize
that
there
is
a
cost
and
we
are.
We
did
the
best
we
could
with
what
we
had
and
we
have
a
very
short
window
to
purchase.
So
you
know
we
kind
of
had
to
do
an
estimate
and.
I
J
M
Clarify
on
the
975,
it
really
depends
on
the
financial
profile,
the
specific
person,
because
you
would
look
at
not
only
income
but
other
deaths,
and
so
if
the
person
had
no
deaths,
no,
they
would
not
need
to
make
thirty.
Six
hundred
a
month
there's
a
forty
five
percent
debt
to
income
ratio,
including
your
rent,.
L
You
know
the
home
program
is
one
of
the
programs,
the
only
program
where
you
can
serve
higher
income
levels.
I
absolutely
agree
that
you
know
we
need
to
help
all
income
levels.
I
worked
with
the
homeless
at
my
last
position
and
I
understand
the
need
that
there
is
also
a
great
need
in
Evanston
for
people
who
are
working,
but
they
cannot
afford
the
rent,
and
this
is
one
of
the
few
programs
that
serves
people
earning
sixty
and
eighty
percent
of
the
area,
median
income
in
the
bottom
line.
L
N
I
L
Correct,
however,
the
home
program
is
all
about
units,
it's
all
about
creating
permanently
affordable
units.
So,
unfortunately,
you
don't
have
a
proposal
for
a
multi,
large
multifamily
development
here
and
you
have
TD
RA.
You
are
giving
money
to
TB
RA
and
that's
a
great
program,
but
it
would
be
a
shame
to
do
give
all
your
money
to
TB
RA
and
not
have
any
permanent
units.
Tvr
a
goes
away
after
24
months,
so
and
believe
me
HUD.
L
Why
should
it
develop
some
units
and
even
though
this
isn't
ideal,
we
would
like
to
develop
more
than
two
units
as
well.
It
is
what
we
could
do
it
with
the
current
situation
and
without
having
other
funding
to
put
into
it.
You
know
those
those
grants
we
get
at
different
times,
the
AG
grant
and
they
come
along
them.
We
just
don't
happen
to
have
one
right
now.
K
So
you
with
the
the
unit's
it's
more
of
a
long-term
solution
for
families,
and
maybe
I
mean
some
of
these
families
are
making.
You
know
they're
working
and
they
have
master's
degrees,
doing
social
work
and
they'll
never
make
enough
money
to
afford
market-rate
right
now
instance.
So
this
is
a
long-term
solution
for
families
like
that.
L
L
N
Just
wanted
to
say
that
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
have
both
kinds
of
programs.
The
TBR
a
program
for
that
helps
people
for
24
months,
but
the
idea
of
these
units
that
are
there
for
the
longer
term
and
a
family
as
you've
just
been
pointing
out
often
will
need
more
than
24
months
of
a
much
more
stable
situation
for
those
large
families.
I,
really
like
the
idea
that
these
are
going
to
be
three
bedroom
units,
there's
clearly
a
need
in
the
community
to
provide
for
families
that
of
that
size.
L
L
Just
moves
up
slowly
as
a
percentage
of
their
income
and
then
usually
what
happens
is
once
they
start
making
money.
Then
they
eventually
don't
want
to
be
in
the
affordable
unit
anymore,
and
they
want
to
go
somewhere
else,
and
so
it
kind
of
has
worked
naturally
for
us
where
people
then
move
on
or
even
a
couple
of
our
clients
have
purchased,
have
gone
on
to
the
our
home
buyers
as
well.
They.
A
K
Ottoman
Ottoman
Rainey,
if
I
made
just
really
quickly
the
home
program
once
you
get
above
80%
of
area
median
income,
it
requires
the
household
to
start
paying
30
percent
of
their
income
towards
rent.
So
usually,
what
that
ends
up
doing
is
that
it
they
often
end
up
seeking
other
housing,
because
then
they
becomes
expensive
for
them.
So
I
articulated
that
exactly.
A
A
See
that
as
a
major
flaw
of
this
program,
people
who
are
you
know,
talk
about
graduating
out
of
the
the
tenant-based
rental
program.
You
must
graduate
out
of
that
program.
This
program,
you
do
not
graduate.
You
do
not
have
to
graduate
out
of
that
program.
You
may
continue
to
stay
there
and
a
lovely
renovated
property
and
you
can
pay
30
40
50
%
of
your
rent
flaw
in
the
program
you.
I
You
have
any
guess:
YouTube
data,
like
research,
data
tracking
results
on
how
these
report
out
for
other
organizations
over
you
know
a
longer
period
of
time.
I.
L
Of
the
reasons
why
home
has
us
do
this
Performa
this
30
page
pro
forma
that
they
look
at
and
the
staff
have
to
underwrite
to
make
sure
that
the
it
is
affordable,
and
it
is
something
that
will
sustain
over
the
period
of
affordability,
is
to
ensure
that
the
project
is
is
sustainable
and
so
I
believe
you
know,
we
have
a
system
that
you
put
all
the
anything
that
we've
accomplished
for
home.
That
goes
into
a
national
system
and
they
have
that.
L
L
O
Do
we
listen
I
just
want
to
give
you
some
of
the
properties
that
we
have
invested
home
in
in
the
past
that
are
still
in
their
affordability
periods
and
still
are
successful.
319
Dempster,
743
Rummel
is
actually
just
out
of
its
affordability
period,
but
it
was
home
funded.
The
properties
on
Wesley
I
cannot
remember
all
the
addresses
but
they're
at
the
top
end
of
Wesley,
where
it
dead-ends
into
the
where
the
self
storage
place
is
right.
O
I
I
Just
being
totally
blunt
I've
had
people
in
the
community
saying
to
me,
are
you
kidding
me
like
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
two
units
of
housing
wants
to
just
buy
four
and
give
them
away
so
that
that's
the
kind
of
reaction
and
I
don't
think
it's
an
unreasonable
reaction.
I
don't
see
it
that
way,
because
I
sit
up
here
and
I
get
the
packet
I
get
this
material,
but
I
think
we
have.
I
You
know
it's
incumbent
on
us
to
be
able
to
to
make
sure
that
we're
making
a
good
decision
with
$79,000,
so
I,
don't
I,
believe
you
but
I
just
accept
about.
O
A
We
can
my
my
inclination
and
my
information
as
of
late
from
you
know.
Social
media
and
various
blogs.
Is
that
there's
a
desperate
need
for
immediate
housing,
rental
housing
for
families,
mostly
the
information
I,
have
is
single
moms
with
few
kids
needing
needing
housing
now
now
and
the
the
perfect
answer
to
their
problems
because
they
have
other
problems
other
than
just
laughing
just
needing
housing.
Is
the
tenant
based
rental
assistance
program?
A
My
inclination
would
be
to
say,
let's
divide
this
money
up,
give
half
of
it
to
to
this
program
and
half
of
it
to
connections
so
that
they
can
add
to
their
program
and
to
provide
more
I,
mean
I
know
it's
two
years:
maybe
they
can
even
add
an
additional
year
on
to
it,
but
add
some
more
housing
to
their
stock.
I
I
am
very,
very
worried.
A
I
keep
hearing
about
people
being
sent
to
this
plains,
who
have
got
kids
in
there
in
the
schools
here
and
yet
they're,
finding
housing
and
DesPlaines
these
various
programs.
You
know
Family
Promise,
these
other
programs
and
the
kids
are
being
sent
to
families
are
being
uprooted
and
sent
to
desplaines,
so
I'm
I'm.
A
Very
concerned
about
that
and
when
I
saw
that
one
of
the
alternatives
that
we
could
use
some
of
this
money
for
was
to
add
to
the
connections
for
the
homeless
program
and
I
and
and
I
would
love
to
add
to
that
and
I
know.
It
is
only
for
two
years,
but
maybe
they
could
add
a
few
more
units
of
housing
and
add
another
year
to
their
program
and.
I
A
O
All
the
Marini-
and
I
would
like
to
clarify
our
our
memo
on
paper.
What
is
confusing
we
actually
have,
because
we
know
we're
getting
our
2017
money.
Now
we
can
allocate
to
home
money,
we're
talking
and
the
affordable
housing
fund
money
for
the
two
units
for
SEPA,
and
we
will
have
we
have
the
capacity
and
are
recommending
that
we
allocate
also
tonight
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
forty
brooks
we,
the
home
funding.
The
home
program
was
funded
at
level
funding
for
2017
level
funding
with
2016
in
2016.
O
We
also
have
this
requirement
that
this
chotto
reserve
be
spent
on
bricks
and
sticks.
We
cannot
use
it
for
tea
bruh
and
the
collective
chota
reserves
over
those
three
years
we
have
to
we.
What
our
plan
is
to
use
the
2015,
2016
and
2017
show
the
reserve,
which
will
be
about
a
hundred
and
twenty
one
thousand
of
home.
If
it
is
not
used
for
bricks
and
sticks,
we
will
have
to
give
it
back
to
HUD.
O
A
A
P
P
What
what
we've
all
been
talking
about
here
tonight
and
while
alderman
Rainey
I
appreciate
the
issue
that
you're
raising
about
splitting
up
the
money.
I
also
see
the
value
of
having
providing
some
permanency
to
a
family,
and
that
you
know
two
years
goes
by
in
no
time
and
then
we
housing
costs
are
astronomically
expensive
and
I.
That
I
think
that
we
have
to
chip
Adam
away
at
it
in
some
way.
So
I
am
I'm
going
to
support
this
program
tonight
and
then
additionally
support
the
next
item
on
the
agenda.
P
Justice
enthusiastically
and
I
think
we
should
look
to
adding
more
money
to
that
program
as
well,
so
that
we
can
stabilize
people
and
then
allow
them
the
opportunity,
then
to
stabilize
their
life
and
potentially
move
into
something.
But
I
think
the
value
of
two
three
bedrooms
is
so
important
because
there
just
aren't
enough
of
those
in
Evanston.
I
L
No,
we
didn't.
We
don't
know
what
units
we
don't
know
what
units
were
going
to
get
so
we
kind
of
we
can't.
We
won't
have
time
to
come
back
if
we
get
something,
maybe
for
a
great
acquisition
price,
but
it
needs
significant
construction,
so
the
units
I
toured
and
submitted
those
and
my
last
sheets,
the
first
time
we
took
an
overall
average
of
what
we
thought
it
was.
There
was
one
that
was
in
pretty
good
shape
and
then
it
was
two
that
needed
significant
work.
L
L
This
is
an
estimate,
so
we
can
go
out
and
purchase
if
we
find
something
cheaper
and
if
we
can
do
it
under
I
mean
we
do
that
all
day
long
so
and
we
whenever
we
submit
proposals,
they're,
always
estimates
and
when
they're
educated
estimates,
but
by
the
time
you
go
down
and
actually
purchase,
it
depends
on
what's
on
the
market
and
and
what
the
sellers
price
is,
and
so
we
very
melt
very
well
may
come
in
with
something
much
much
less.
Every.
B
O
There
is
enough
for
the
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollar
KIBRA.
In
addition,
and
then
we
will
have
in
the
neighborhood
of
based
on
our
2017
estimate,
seventy
five
thousand
of
home
entitlement,
yet
to
potentially
allocate
and
also
every
year
we
get
about
between
twenty
and
thirty
thousand
in
home
program
income,
which
we
have
to
program
as
well
and
use.
So
the
challenge
is,
we
have
a
couple
moving
targets,
we
don't
know
our
home
grant
amount
for
2017
and
we
will
not
when
you're
going
to
get
it.
O
O
Expect
will
get
access
to
it,
probably
in
September
or
October,
but
the
keeper
program
being
a
two-year
program,
won't
get
into
spending
that
money.
Then
we
can
allocate
a
hundred
thousand-plus
from
existing
funds
and
SEPA
will
not
complete
its
project
till
probably
year-end
or
even
early
in
2018.
So
it's
we
will
have
the
money
in
access
to
the
money
and
time
to
fund
both
things.
So.
B
I've
been
a
witness
to
the
value
of
the
long,
stable
housing
for
families
and
the
challenge
to
find
housing
for
families
and
I've,
seen
families
be
stabilized
and
their
children,
thrive
and,
and
the
mother
find
better
improvement
in
employment
and
I
have
witnessed
it
from
people
that
I
care
about.
But
at
the
same
time
there
is
a
tremendous
need
for
emergency
situations
and
I'm
still
unclear
on.
B
If
there
are
other
funds
or
other
programming
available
to
help
the
families
that
have
emergency
needs
for
whatever
reason,
maybe
they
were
living
in
a
home
that
was
distressed
and
they
didn't
know
it
and
they
had
to
move
or
they
had
an
income
change
or
some
sort
of
trauma
or
whatever
reason.
What
other
options
do
we
have
for
the
families
that
need
emergency,
immediate
housing.
O
Home
other,
unless
they
are
eligible
for
t
bro,
you
can't
do
I
mean
there
are
some
families
with
the
emergencies
that
can
be
helped
through
t,
but
home
funding
is
not
flexible
in
terms
of
anything
other
than
the
housing
cost.
So
when
we
use
home
vertebra,
it
pays
only
for
the
housing
subsidy,
the
rent
subsidy,
and
it
can
do
a
utility
subsidy.
It
cannot
be
used
for
any
other
needs
that
the
family
may
have
and
that's
by
statute
other
programs.
We
get
emergency
solutions,
grant
funding
which
can
help,
in
some
cases
with
short-term
housing
costs.
O
It
again
has
limits
and
are
primarily
housing
to
be
used
primarily
for
housing.
It
can
also
be
used
for
case
management
for
the
organization's
managing
that
program,
which
is
connection
through
the
homeless
in
Evanston,
the
I'm,
not
sure
quite
what
types
of
expenses
that
you
are
thinking
of
other
than
that.
A
O
L
All
three
that
Janelle,
but
we
have
on
all
of
our
units
in
Evanston,
the
single
family,
home,
buyer
and
the
rentals
we
had
them
all
rented
before
we
even
finished
I
mean
we
have
a.
There
is
a
definite
need
for
our
slice
of
the
pie
and
Evans
and
people
who
are
working
but
still
can't
afford
the
rent
do.
M
So
that's
been
our
experience.
You
know
how
many
moves.
We
have
one
moving
right
now,
because
thankfully,
the
affordable
apartment
gave
her
a
lot
of
upward
mobility
and
she's,
really
thriving,
which
is
fantastic,
so
she's
moving
now,
and
then
we
had
the
other
one
who
segwayed
into
homeownership
and
that's
really
been
it.
A
lot
of
people
who
are
in
affordable
rentals
are
there
because,
as
Savannah
mentioned,
whatever
their
chosen
work
is
or
whatever
their,
what
they're
doing
to
earn,
an
income
is
not
going
to
change
that
much,
and
so
we
don't
have.
M
We
don't
typically
see
a
huge
fluctuation
in
people's
incomes.
They
do
get
income
recertified
every
year.
So
two
months
out,
60
days
out,
we
recertify
everybody.
We
ask
for
documentation
again
and
we
make
sure
that
the
unit
is
serving
the
population
for
which
it
was
supposed
to
serve.
You
know
you
want
to
create
you're
trying
to
create
long
term
stability,
so
you
really
don't
want
to
toss
people
out
of
their
affordable
apartments.
M
M
We
can
so
the
word
stewardship
is
often
used
a
lot
with
land
trust
you
steward
both
the
land
and
you
Stewart
in
your
residents,
as
our
residents
can
tell
you,
we
just
had
a
landscaping
seminar
for
our
people
who
live
in
single-family
homes.
Last
year,
homeowner
education
focused
on
financial
literacy.
We've
brought
in
people
from
insurance.
We've
made
financial
planners
available
to
our
residents.
We
really
try
and
support
them
any
way
we
can.
Mr.
Smith
talked
about
the
community
that
we
create.
M
It
is
in
fact
a
way
that
helps
us
succeed,
because
it
keeps
us
in
touch
with
our
residents
and
so
that
you
know
they
sign
the
lease.
That's
not
the
end,
there's
an
ongoing
relationship
that
really
helps
people
succeed,
and
we
really
do
feel
that
that's
part
of
the
reason
that
we're
so
successful.
So,
yes,
we
have
a
lot
of
support
given
to
our
residents.
M
The
other
thing
is:
if
you
can
keep
those
lines
of
communication
open
and
you
can
hear
about
a
problem
before
it
becomes
giant,
we
can
help
direct
some
resources
and
try
and
and
back
it
up.
We
had
a
situation
with
somebody's
tax
bill
that
we
helped
with,
and
so
we
try
and
get
involved
wherever
we
can
so.
A
A
K
P
P
Q
Alderman,
thank
you
for
your
continued
support.
I
really
appreciating
appreciated.
Excuse
me
hearing
your
enthusiasm
for
the
program.
That's
been
very
successful
over
the
last
three
years
and
it
makes
a
tremendous
difference,
even
though
it
is
only
a
two-year
program.
We
work
extraordinarily
hard
with
these
families
to
ensure
their
ability
to
take
over
a
market
rate
rental
unit
after
two
years.
Thus
far,
we've
been
successful.
I
can't
how
much
a
hundred
percent
success
in
perpetuity,
but
we've
been
very
successful
with
this
program
that
families
work
very
hard.
Q
Our
staff
work
very
hard
and
it
really
enables
educational
continuity
for
the
children
in
these
families,
which
is
the
focus
of
the
program.
This
is
only
open
to
families
who
have
children
in
the
district,
65
and
202,
and
so
that's
where
our
focus
is
we're
currently
coming
up
on
the
end
of
the
first
year
of
this
program.
Q
Q
A
Q
We
do
have
some
flexibility
within
the
program
to
provide
extensions
to
families
if
they
appear
to
be.
You
know
like
on
the
cusp
of
being
able
to
achieve
this,
so
it's
not
a
hard
stop
and
again,
if
someone
graduates
early,
we
also
can
work
with
that.
We
were
able
actually
this
year
to
accommodate
an
11th
family,
because
the
rental
units
that
we
found
were
just
of
a
you
know.
Our
per
capita
cost
was
coming
in
a
little
lower,
so
we
were
able
to
squeeze
someone
else
in.
Q
Current
waiting
list
is
about
six
families
that
we
only
just
reopened
it
I.
We
get
calls
all
year
round
about
this,
and
our
cycle
is
generally
toward
the
end
of
the
school
year,
which
we're
approaching
now
is
when
we
reopen
that
waiting
list,
because
families
do
happy.
Families
can't
wait
nine
months
in
order
to
have
their
needs
address,
so
sometimes,
unfortunately,
they
do.
They
do
have
to
move
out
of
the
community
or
they
find
another
way
around
things.
So
we
do
not
keep
a
waiting
list
for
nine
months.
Q
G
I
like
to
speak
to
that
I'm
getting
calls
bananas
because
I
talked
with
Tracy
her
family
promise.
All
the
time
I've
had
five
people
in
the
last
two
months
go
to
Des,
Plaines
or
partridge.
So
it's
very
terrible.
There's
no
funding
I
can't
do
anything
if
they
don't
have
any
money
and
yes,
I,
think
on
an
extension
of
another
year,
it's
beneficial
because
some
people
aren't
able
to
pay
afterwards.
G
A
Q
Boy
I
wish
I'd
known
you
were
going
to
ask
me
a
question:
I
would
have
come
up
with
a
miraculous
answer.
I
think
I
have
to
say
that
the
root
cause
of
many
of
the
individuals
that
we
serve
the
root
cause
of
their
homelessness
is
a
lack
of
good-paying
jobs
and
so
I
can't
get
away
from
the
issue
of
wages.
When
it
comes
to
the
impact
on
homelessness.
Q
I
know
this
might
not
serve
our
direct
purposes,
but
it
would
be
my
great
delight
if
we
put
ourselves
out
of
business
somehow
by
creating
enough
wages
creating
enough
employment
that
paid
well
enough
for
people
to
be
able
to
live
in
this
community
as
employers.
We
have
a
difficult
time,
hiring
people
who
don't
live
miles
and
miles
and
miles
away
from
us,
and
it
impacts
our
ability
to
hire
people,
and
we
do
pay
reasonably
well
for
a
social
service
agency.
So
I
can't
even
imagine
what
it's
like
trying
to
hire
somebody
for
$8.75
an
hour.
Q
Q
Q
Right,
ideally,
I
guess
we
would
all
agree
that
being
people
being
able
to
afford
housing
without
subsidies
is,
is
the
ideal
situation.
I
would
I
would
strongly
advocate
for
a
$15
an
hour
minimum
wage.
That
would
mean
that
people
would
not
have
to
be
working
two
or
three
jobs
to
afford
even
a
small
market
rate
unit.
So
that's
if
I,
if
I,
were
to
go
back
to
the
beginning.
I
think
the
TV
program
is
fantastic
because
it
serves
a
population
that
is
otherwise
very
difficult
to
serve.
Q
If
there
is
no
disability
in
the
household,
those
families
are
very
difficult
to
serve,
and
so
the
TV
program
or
a
program
that
was
it's
parallel
for
even
for
people
who
don't
have
kids
would
is,
is
an
excellent
way
for
us
to
go,
because
those
are
folks
that
really
do
have
the
capacity
to
increase
their
income,
sometimes,
unfortunately,
by
taking
on
an
inordinate
number
of
jobs.
But
all,
but
at
least
they
have
the
capacity
to
do
that
rather
than
being
disabled.
A
M
D
A
All
right,
so
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
for
the
capelet
program.
All
those
in
favor
of
funding
it
say,
aye
I
in
the
opposed
will
recommend
that
to
the
council,
as
I
said
earlier,
ordinance
47
Oh
17
is
being
held
at
the
request
of
both
parties,
the
applicant
and
the
owner.
So
we'll
have
that
on
our
agenda.
June
12.