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The
wording
of
the
petition
sounded
innocuous
enough,
but
in
actuality,
a
special
use
would
nullify
the
memorandum
of
understanding
that
is
in
place,
as
well
as
all
aspects
of
their
operations
that
were
contained
in
their
original
business
plan
that
enabled
them
to
open
as
a
permitted
use
in
their
ally
location.
In
the
first
place.
This
was
going
to
be
a
major
change
on
October
15th.
They
submitted
a
special
use
application
for
a
permit
to
be
both
a
craft
brewery
and
a
banquet
hall
in
their
current
space
with
Allie
only
access
they
later
withdrew
this
application.
D
D
When
and
I
met
with
the
Brewers
that
day
and
heard
about
their
plans,
it
was
wonderful
to
hear
that
all
retail
operations
and
publish
publish
access
to
events
tours
classes,
parties
etc
would
take
place
in
the
storefront
and
there
would
be
no
access
to
the
storefront
from
the
alley
moving
all
the
customers
and
guests
and
their
cars
out
of
the
alley
was
good
news.
Indeed,
because
illegal
parking
has
been
an
ongoing
problem.
We
also
discussed
a
topic
that
I
felt
needed
to
be
addressed
during
the
special
use
process.
D
Orders
from
the
brewery
I
told
them
that
strong
brewery
orders
made
me
cough
and
asked
if
a
longer
exhaust
pipe
might
solve
the
problem.
Sean
Decker
said
that
he
thought
it
would
help,
because
the
vapor
would
condensate
and
run
back
down
the
pipe
before
it
reached
the
top.
He
said
it
would
be
expensive,
but
that
they
would
run
the
pipe
which
currently
ends
above
the
first
floor
windows
up
the
wall
to
above
the
roof
line
of
the
second
floor.
I
asked
why
they
didn't
put
in
a
longer
pipe.
In
the
first
place.
D
He
replied
that
the
city
did
not
require
them
to.
He
sounded
confident
that
the
longer
pipe
would
work,
but
not
totally
so
I
sent
them
in
them
an
email
before
the
dapper
meeting,
letting
them
know
that
without
the
longer
pipe
already
in
place,
I
had
no
way
of
knowing
whether
or
not
would
effectively
prevent
the
brewing
odors
from
escaping
into
the
air
and
without
knowing
that
I
could
not
support
an
increase
in
their
production
level.
I.
D
Let
them
know
this
with
the
hope
that
they
would
come
to
the
meeting
with
information
about
the
efficacy
of
a
longer
pipe.
Instead,
they
came
with
emissions
reports
from
which
they
calculated
that
a
parked
car
emits
more
volatile
organic
compounds
than
a
small
brewery
does
in
the
production
of
a
thousand
barrels
of
beer
for
the
record
odors
from
parked
cars.
Do
not
affect
me
in
any
way
wanting
to
know
what
the
city
had
said
about
orders.
D
Inventing
I
read
through
all
of
the
minutes
of
all
of
the
meetings
that
were
held
last
year,
involving
the
amendment
to
the
zoning
ordinance
to
establish
the
definition
and
land
use
regulations
for
micro
breweries,
which
was
later
changed
to
craft
breweries.
Craft
breweries
were
going
to
be
brand
new
special
uses
in
the
BCD
and
RP
zoning
districts,
but
the
only
discussion
that
I
could
find
regarding
orders
was
one
comment
made
by
a
member
of
the
zoning
committee
of
the
plan
commission
at
their
may.
D
Twenty
first
meeting,
the
minutes
say
chairman
sure,
pointed
out
that
micro
breweries
could
also
have
a
negative,
could
also
have
negative
effects
associated
with
odors
and
fumes,
but
acknowledged
that
fire
/
debt
prevention
and
health
department
inspects
such
facilities
regularly.
That's
all
there
was.
It
appears
that
no
other
discussion
was
had
by
any
board
commissioner
committee
about
possible
orders
produced
by
a
brewery
or
any
venting
requirements.
My
neighbor
page
Riggs
is
still
away
on
vacation.
There
is
a
copy
of
her
letter
to
the
ZBA
in
your
packet.
D
D
This
reaction
to
an
order
is
not
experienced
by
all
people
who
smell
wine,
but
this
doesn't
make
her
personal
physical
reaction,
any
less
real
I,
don't
have
asthma,
no
orders
give
me
headaches,
but
like
perfume,
which
I
absolutely
cannot
tolerate
at
all.
Some
Brewer
and
odors
are
so
strong
that
they
stick
in
my
throat
and
make
me
cough
for
an
extended
period
of
time.
Perhaps
it
has
to
do
with
the
hops
I,
don't
know
if
any
of
you
experienced
anything
like
this.
D
I
only
know
that
this
has
been
my
personal
reaction
to
some
of
the
brewery
o
odors
and
when
a
strong
wind
blows
from
Northwest
the
borders
can
blow
across
the
alien
into
my
windows.
For
this
reason,
I
am
particularly
concerned
with
the
large
increase
in
the
frequent
frequency
of
brewing
sessions.
That
would
result
from
the
much
higher
production
level
cap
that
the
special
use
would
allow.
Sketchbook
stated
that
the
realities
of
time
and
space
would
not
allow
them
to
reach
the
7500
barrel
limit.
D
But
how
much
can
they
produce
I
confirmed
with
Zoning
Administrator
latina
Vic
today?
That
sketchbook
would
not
need
any
permission
to
add
more
brewing
equipment
to
their
brewing
space.
Nor
would
they
need
permission
to
repurpose
the
room
currently
identified
as
their
storage
room
on
their
plans.
This
room
could
also
be
filled
with
brewing
equipment
pronouncing
those
wrong.
The
only
things
they
can't
do
without
permission
is
brew,
more
than
7,500
barrels
of
beer
or
expand
into
any
other
areas
of
the
building.
D
So
the
reality
of
the
situation
is
that
really
we
really
have
no
idea
what
sketchbooks
maximum
production
capabilities
are
now
or
what
they
will
be
in
the
future.
Increasing
their
brewing
equipment
will
allow
them
to
brew.
More
often,
odors
are
produced
every
time
they
brew.
Could
they
brew
seven
days
a
week?
Could
they
brew
twice
a
day?
I
don't
know,
can
you
send
a
rep
well
I'm
at
the
end,
I
spent
some
time
online
and
discovered
that
last
November
Oak
Park
approved
their
first
special
use
permit
for
their
first
craft
brewery.
D
This
brewery
start
is
starting
with
a
limited
500
barrel
production
for
the
first
year
and
moving
up
to
a
five
year,
maximum
product
production
of
2,000
barrels
in
the
minutes
of
the
Oak
Park
Plan
Commission,
it
states
the
applicant
said
they
would
reduce
older
from
the
brewing
process
by
using
a
condensation
process
that
would
condense
the
steam
to
water,
and
they
would
also
use
an
air
filtration
system
to
remove
the
smell
from
the
steam
I.
Don't
know
if
Oak
Park
required
these
systems
or
if
the
brewery
opted
to
install
them.
D
So
a
longer
exhaust
pipe
is
not
the
only
option.
There
are
vapor
condensers
and
carbon
filtration
system,
and
who
knows
what
else
sketch
book
will
be
the
first
craft
brewery
located
outside
the
industrial
district?
More
may
follow
I
believe
that
there
should
be
a
way
for
the
city
to
promote
economic
development,
support
and
encourage
the
growth
of
small
business
enterprises
and
make
provisions
to
protect
the
quality
of
life
for
neighbors,
as
well,
rather
than
just
requiring
sketchbook
to
install
a
longer
exhaust
pipe.
D
I
would
like
to
suggest
that
the
city
take
an
interest
in
the
matter
of
brewery
orders
and
investigate
venting
length
of
exhaust
pipes,
vapor
condensers
air,
filtration
systems
and
any
other
options
that
are
available
in
order
to
determine
which
would
be
most
effective
for
breweries
in
the
new
special
use.
Zoning
districts
that
are
in
very
close
proximity
to
residential
neighbors
if
the
unexpected
cost
of
this
equipment
is
too
much
for
sketchbook
to
afford
at
this
time.
D
Perhaps
the
city
has
funds
available
for
a
low-interest
loan
or
could
provide
some
other
financial
aid
to
help
cover
the
expense.
Thank
you,
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
it,
but
condition
d
of
the
special
use,
ordinance
nuisance,
orders
or
the
applicants
can
decide
who
the
majority
of
neighbors
are
I
have
a
real
problem,
but
thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
Ok,.
E
F
So
I'm
Sean
Decker,
one
of
the
co-owners
of
sketchbook
brewing
Cesar
Marin,
so
one
of
the
things
I
would
bring
up.
Is
it
we've
worked
with
ms
hill
one
on
a
number
of
different
issues
and
with
ultimate
win
over
the
course
of
the
nine
months
that
we've
now
been
in
operation.
We've
been
in
operation
since
last
October
up
until
the
point
where
we
actually
applied
for
our
craft
brewery
special
use
application
to
that
point
there
had
been
no
complaints
from
miss
Hilton
or
anyone
else.
Regarding
odors,
these
complaints
suddenly
started
once
we
made
this
application.
F
So
we've
had
a
history
of
actually
operating
and
brewing
on
a
regular
basis
in
the
neighborhood.
Without
a
single
complaint
for
nine
months
that
we've
I
checked
with
the
city
that
haven't
been
complaints
to
the
city,
there
haven't
been
complex,
directed
at
us,
so
we've
had
it.
I
know
one
meeting
with
alderman,
wind
and
Miss
hope
mine
a
while
back,
probably
was
about
three
or
four
months
ago,
and
we
were
talking
and
in
fact
this
I
forget
who
brought
it
up
with
a
result
was
all
admit
wind.
F
But
the
question
of
voters
came
up
and
in
fact
miss
Helen
specifically
said
that
she
didn't
have
any
problem
with
our
odors,
that
that
wasn't
the
thing
she
was
concerned
about
it
was
the
the
parking
and
the
alley
access
where
the
really
points
of
concern
for
her
so
I'm,
not
quite
understanding
where
the
sudden
odor
problem
has
come
from.
During
our
zoning
application
meeting,
we
had
a
number
of
neighbors
come
forward,
many
of
whom
were
actually
much
closer
to
this
exhaust
pipe.
F
Then
then
miscellaneous
reached
out
across
the
LA
and
several
that
several
down,
and
they
were
there
in
support
of
our
brewery
and
basically
saying
that,
in
fact,
there
were
no
specific
odors
that
they'd
ever
smelled
I
believe
specifically,
they
said
they
had
actually
smelled
us
brewing
one
time.
This
would
be
one
time
out
of
probably
about
a
hundred
bruise
that
we
had
done
over
the
last
nine
months
and
that
it
wasn't
a
problematic
small
at
all.
I.
G
B
G
One
part
of
process,
exactly
as
so,
there
are
many
different
compounds.
They
may
come
out
of
the
hole,
the
entire
process
on
this
literature
that
we
we
reference
it's
in
the
packet.
Actually,
that
was
done
by
the
EPA
in
the
blue
2008,
the
boiling
the
boil
kettle
is
where
you
get
most
of
your
volatile
compounds.
It
basically
like
like
boiling
a
big
big.
You
know,
pot
of
pasta,
you're
going
to
fill
up
your
room
with
steam.
Well,
obviously,
whatever
flavors
in
there
you're
going
to
get
some
of
that
aroma.
G
If
you're
boiling
pasta
versus
you
know
versus
a
shrimp
or
something
like
that
or
seafood
you're
going
to
get
much
more
different
flavor.
So
what
you
get
there
is
grains
and
hops.
Some
of
those
compounds
will
come
out
depending
on
on
your
on
your
recipe,
but
it's
can
go
anywhere
from
smelling
like
a
bakery
to
maybe
a
little
more
slightly
so
freaking,
no.
G
F
There's
literature
that
was
referred
to
that
was
also
in
your
pack,
that
was
in
the
zoning
packet
was
a
study
done
by
the
EPA,
where
they
looked
at
breweries
per
thousand
barrels
that
they
did
in
the
amount
of
emissions
of
harmful.
You
know,
by-products
was
so
small
that
literally
a
car
sitting
on
the
street.
You
know
the
gasoline
evaporating
is
going
to
actually
emit
more
harmful
things,
because
everything
in
there
is
basically
food,
it's
organic
and
they
really
aren't
any
harmful
compounds
and.
B
F
Also,
throughout
this
process,
we've
met
with
the
neighbors
and
we've
been
trying
to
as
much
as
we
can
to
be
a
good
neighbor
to
everyone
else
in
the
in
that
area.
We
will
continue
to
do
exactly
that.
We
will
continue
to
be
sensitive
to
two
issues
such
as
owners
and
and
make
whatever
adoptions
we
can
to
deal
with.
This
do.
A
G
G
H
E
G
Correct
so
inside
of
the
brewery
of
the
vent
that
goes
up
captures
the
condensate
right
there.
So
out
of
out
of
a
brew
day,
we've
been
a
boiling
about
10,
gallons
or
so
of
liquid
of
water,
and
we
capture
about
seven
to
eight
of
that,
if
not
more
inside
of
the
brewery
itself,
that's
where
all
those
any
of
those
volatile,
czar
and
then
the
rest
with
capturing
and.
G
Definitely
going
to
capture
a
lot
more,
it
really
depends
on
the
of
the
day
the
differential
pressure
between
side
and
outside
warm
or
cold.
It
is
outside
it's
very
much
like
a
it's
very
much
simpler
than
a
restaurant.
That's
in
the
area
as
well,
so
we
have
company,
although
we
have
lucky
platter,
we
have
a
couple
other
restaurants,
equidistant
from
from
the
neighborhood
basically
and
they
so
any
of
the
smells
that
are
going
out
there
right
now.
Ours
is
definitely
less
than
that.
Alright,.
E
I
am
very
glad
that
you
have
a
retail
location
on
Chicago,
Avenue
I
think
it's
going
to
go
a
long
way
towards
expanding
your
business
even
further
from
what
it
is
now.
The
other
question
I
wanted
to
ask
you
about
is
with
this
expansion
in
your
ability
to
brew.
What
is
that
you
don't
plan
to
brew
seven
days
a
week,
correct,
correct.
G
G
Yeah,
so
we
have
space
cement
space
issues
in
the
in
the
in
the
entire
building.
Actually,
if
we
were
to
take
the
entire
building,
you
know
it
doesn't
you
can't
occupy?
You
can't
do
the
same
thing
as
revolution.
Brewery,
for
example,
does
in
the
space
that
we
have
the
7500
barrel
number
comes
from
the
fact
that
we
are
self
to
shoot
the
distributors
and
we
can
self
distribute
up
to
7,500.
So
it's
not
just
an
arbitrary
number.
Okay.
F
Often
the
the
limits
in
the
bottle,
next
to
how
much
you
would
be
able
to
produce,
is
not
necessarily
how
often
you
brew.
It's
actually
how
much
cold
storage
you
have.
So,
for
instance,
all
of
this
beer
has
to
be
caged
and
put
into
cold
storage,
which
takes
a
lot
of
space,
and
so,
given
the
limited
space
of
the
coolers
that
we
have
there's
only
so
much,
we
can
grow
okay,.
E
Then
then,
the
other
point
I
wanted
to
make
is,
if
you
change
the
amount
that
you
brew,
that
changes
your
federal
license
correct
are.
G
I
I
Hi
Jen
five
or
six
days
a
week,
okay,
I'd
like
to
give
the
neighbors
of
respite
from
this
I
mean,
even
though
what
you're
spewing
is
not
toxic,
smells
can
be
very
irritating
to
some
people
and
they
can
develop
a
sensitivity
to
them
and
it
really
impacts
their
quality
of
life.
So
if
you
in
your
talks
with
alderman
win,
if
you
can
work
with
the
neighbors
to
limit
that,
I
would
say
especially
on
weekends
and
be
sensitive
to
that.
That
will
go
a
long
way
toward
I.
Think
developing
good
relationships
with
an
the.
G
I
F
Of
the
other
things
you
might
add
is
that
one
of
the
big
restaurant
I
mean
sorry
brewery.
Businesses
is
tours
and
you
give
a
lot
of
Tours
and
tour
days.
You
do
not
want
to
be
actively
brewing
because
you're
going
to
bring
people
into
that
space
and
most
of
those
tours
will
happen
on
weekends.
That's
obviously
the
time
that
people
want
to
come
and
visit.
So
it's
a
fairly
natural
thing
that
it
for
many
reasons
we
actually
wouldn't
really
want
to
brew
on
weekends.
So,
okay,
thanks.
A
E
Item
p2
ordinance,
70
80,
15
zoning
ordinance
text
amendment
regarding
minor
variations
for
second
floor
additions
to
non-conforming
structures.
The
plan
commission
is
staff,
recommended
option
of
ordinance,
70
90
15,
a
zoning
ordinance
text
amendment
to
allow
variation
requests
for
all
second
floor
additions
to
existing
non-conforming
single
family
and
to
family
residential
structures
to
be
processed
as
a
minor
variation.
I
move
introduction
is.
C
J
Evening,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
this
was
an
all
dramatic
reference
from
alderman
Miller,
who
had
a
conversation
with
zba
members
about
caseload
and
these
particular
types
of
variations
that
that
are
our
can
swell
their
schedule
and
we're
practically
almost
always
approved
because
they
are
covering
an
existing
addition,
they're
all
legal
non-conforming
setbacks
and
aesthetically
and
structurally
why's.
It
makes
sense
to
permit
these
additions.
There's
also
still
public
comment,
they're,
still
notification
that
is
sent
out
so
that
the
neighbors
are
aware
that
this
is
mean
plan.
C
All
right,
I,
just
I,
just
hesitate
a
little
bit
because
it
we've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
about
property.
That's
getting
you
know,
build
bigger
and
bigger,
and
bigger
and
affordability
of
the
housing
stock
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
it
causes
me
some
pause
to
reduce
the
the
vetting
process.
So
that's
that's
why
I
was
interested
to
know
all
right.
It's
just
for
introduction
right
right.
A
I
Ordinance
ato
15
plan
development,
extension
for
church
street
village,
1629
to
1691
church
street
city
staff,
recommends
adoption
of
ordnance
ato
15
to
extend
the
time
for
completion
of
the
church
street
village
plan
development
originally
approved
in
april
2006.
The
ordinance
grants
of
the
approval
to
obtain
a
building
permit
to
construct
the
final
eight
unit
building
within
one
year.
It's
building
10.
K
Very
quickly,
madam
chair
Peter
Braithwaite,
all
in
2nd
Ward,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
I
just
wanted
to
this
is
just
for
introduction.
What
I
did
wanted
to
take
a
moment,
and
we
have
both.
The
developers
are
here
today
to
give
a
quick
little
update
on
Church
Street
Village
we've
been,
you
know.
Ever
since
I've
been
on
council,
we've
discussed
his
property
and
some
of
the
complications
with
the
property
and
I'm.
Just
you
know
here
to
say
that
these
developers
came
in
and
they
did
an
excellent
job.
I
met
with
them.
K
Several
weeks
ago
at
the
site,
I
had
an
opportunity
to
see
the
improvements.
Just
a
reminder.
During
the
turn
of
the
economy,
there
were
a
number
of
units
over
at
that
location
that
were
left
unfinished.
The
situation
with
the
owners
of
the
condominium
is
that
there
was
no
condo
association.
They
were
behind
on
their
condo
fees
and
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
I'm
here
to
report
that
through
the
developers
they've
paid
up,
and
they
now
have
a
very
active
condo
association.
K
Also
through
the
developers,
they've
they've
they've
done
$100,000
of
sight,
repairs
along
the
properties
to
improve
it
and
I'm
really
confident
to
say
that
I
think
they'll
do
an
excellent
job
if
you
grant
them
this.
This
extension
and
they'll
speak
to
this
when,
if
you
want
one
of
the
things
they're
also
looking
to
do
with
with
the
improvement
or
with
the
site
is
possible,
affordable,
rentals,
and
so
that's
something
that
we've
discussed
over
the
past
couple
of
months
and
with
that
I
will
introduce
them.
If
you
have
any
additional
questions.
K
H
There
were
14
units
that
were
finished
or
not
completed
various
stages
from
just
framing
to
some
of
the
mechanicals
to
drywall,
and
we
put
together
a
program
for
them
to
demonstrate
to
not
only
is
it
good
for
the
community,
but
it's
also
better
for
them
on
the
return
on
their
investments,
where
we
finish,
the
14
townhomes,
we've
sold
nine
have
closed
in
that
property,
ranging
from
320,000
to
387
thousand
dollars.
So
our
average
sales
price
has
been
over
three
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
H
By
doing
that,
we,
you
know
it's
incumbent
and
for
them
to
make
sure
that
the
homeowners
association
is
very
strong,
so
they
came
back
as
alderman
mentioned.
We
went
ahead
and
brought
up
all
of
the
HOA
fees
current
and
also
a
hundred
thousand
plus
dollars
in
site
improvements
that
the
the
prior
developer,
you
know,
obviously
left
behind
our
unfinished
without
having
to
do
a
special
assessment
to
the
other
people
that
have
made
their
commitment
than
financial
commitment
to
that
project.
H
B
E
H
They
won't
look
similar.
They
look
a
lot
more
it'll,
look
more
pedestrian
friendly.
It
will
look
a
little
bit
more
residential
nature,
they'll
be
Gables
and
there'll,
be
a
combination
of
brick
and
either
stuck
or
Hardie
siding
and
different
types
of
materials
to
make
it
more
fun
me
not.
So
you
know
those
other
buildings
are
like
three
stories.
High
I
was
just
strictly
brick
and
I.
H
H
Be
three-story
structures
right,
they'll,
be
still
still
be,
three-story
structures
and
there's
some
amenities
that
we're
going
to
make
those
a
little
bit
different
there'll,
be
a
little
bit
smaller
in
size.
They'll
have
an
a
deck
off
the
back
side
of
the
property
as
well,
so
it'll
I
think
everyone
will
be
satisfied
with
what
we're
trying
to
do
there
all.
L
I
wish
you
all
the
luck
in
the
world
I
think
it's
a
great
project
and
just
for
the
city
of
Evanston
we're
very
lucky
because
over
time
recently,
many
of
these
stalled
projects
have
been
reborn
and
they're
they're
being
built
now
and
they're
being
finished.
And
it's
just
it's
just
a
great
thing.
Not
every
community
has
that,
but
not
every
committed
community
is
the
most
livable
city,
and
hopefully
you
will
promote
all
of
our
awards
in
your
marketing.
There.
H
Will
be
tomorrow
for
sure
yeah,
but
our
company,
you
know
before
the
tsunami
hit
in
the
real
estate
market.
You
know
we
were
doing
development
and
then
we
got.
We
focused
on
this
re
working
and
repurposing
and
finishing
of
projects,
and
you
know
we've
done
very
little
here
with
you
guys,
but
you
know
we're
open
to
helping
that
process.
If
there's
other
opportunities
within
the
different
words
that
you
may
have
we're.
Definitely
here
and
we
have
relationship
with
private
equity
firms
and
different
financial
institutions
that
we
we
work
with.
H
A
And
you
can
see
the
difference
in
the
streetscape
or
landscaping
as
you
drive
down
Turk
Street
now,
so
it
looks
very
nice.
Thank
you
this
thank
you.
Seeing
no
other
lights,
all
it's
been
moved
in.
Second,
all
in
favor
any
opposed.
Alright.
That
concludes
our
agenda.
Is
there
a
motion
for
adjournment?
We
are
adjourned
and
we.