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A
You
know
as
in
compared
to
the
majority
of
supportive
people
that
they
feel
that
it's
retiring
earlier
rather
than
later,
is
in
the
best
interest
for
them
and
their
families.
So
how
is
it
affecting
you
guys?
It
has
had
a
negative
effect
on
morale
there's.
Our
present
workforce
is
being
taxed
as
it
has
never
been
before
it
has
had
a
negative
health
or
negative
effect
on
the
health
and
morale
of
our
personnel.
A
B
And
so
then,
in
terms
of
these
staffing
shortages,
how
how
are
you
handling
it
and
how
is
it
affecting
day-to-day
operations
so.
A
A
A
So,
with
regards
to
trying
to
address
our
staffing
issues,
we
have
instituted
a
lateral
program.
Like
many
departments
have
we've
recently
posted
a
openings
for
new
recruits,
we
are
trying
we
are
trying
to
recruit
people
and
hire
people
to
fill
those
vacancies.
However,
there
we
face
again
those
obstacles
that
a
lot
of
departments
do
and
a
lot
of
departments
of
a
similar
political
climate
where.
A
I
don't
think
it's
a
mayor
problem,
it's
a
it's
a
totality,
I
think,
of
the
circumstances
problem
there.
Again
I
referenced
earlier
in
our
interview
we
do
face,
I
would
say
a
minority
of
residents
that
are
very
loud.
They
are
well-intentioned,
but
I
would
say
grossly
under-informed
and
they
kind
of
come
with
a
defund
or
bust
mentality.
A
That
does
is
not
does
not
facilitate
the
efforts
that
the
city
and
the
department
need
to
do
to
hire
and
value
first
responders
to
do
their
job
and
do
them
effective.
Do
it
effectively
day-to-day
walking
around.
I
think
the
average
officer
probably
gets
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
support
by
the
majority
of
evanston
residents,
but
it
is
the
perceived
lack
of
political
support,
whether
it's
by
some
community
groups
or
individual
residents
and
just
the
kind
of
general.
A
So
we
did
the
12-hour
shifts
to
boost
our
coverage
on
patrol.
Unfortunately,
we've
had
a
number
of
detectives
lateral
out
of
our
police
department.
That
is
an
unheard
of
decision
typically
made
by
officers
to
leave
a
detective
spot
in
one
agency
to
consume
a
patrolman
spot
in
another
agency
is
alarming,
so
our
detective
bureau
is
down
probably
50
percent
compared.
A
It
was
a
couple
years
ago
and
because
of
that,
we've
had
to
reduce
some
routine
services
that
we
would
provide
our
citizens
with
regards
to
what
we
will
and
will
not
follow
up
in
an
investigation,
which
is
why,
when
solvability,
basically,
when
solvability
factors
are
low,
people
are
uncooperative
or
people
are
unidentifiable.
A
There's
not
a
great
monetary
loss.
We
have
to
prioritize
serious
crimes
of
a
felony
nature,
personal
crimes,
violent
crimes.
We
need
to
put
our
resources
there
as
much
as
possible
and
have
had
to
kind
of
walk
away
from,
not
us
routinely
assigning
those
cases
where
solvability
factors
were
low,
but
we
still
wanted
people
to
receive
service.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
the
case
didn't
have
things
that
we
initially
didn't
see
as
being
beneficial
to
solving
it,
and
we
just
right
now
we
routine,
we
don't
have
the
resources
to
routinely
assign
those
cases.
A
A
It
is,
I
would
say,
some
of
the
other
services
that
we
provide.
Unfortunately,
such
a
casualty
of
the
reduction
of
the
community
policing
unit
is
they
were
responsible
for
a
lot
of
public
education
and
a
lot
of
engagement,
and
unfortunately,
that
is
something
that's
either
going
to
be
diminished
or
delayed.
A
You
know
all
those
services
can't
be
provided
and
provided
in
the
timely
fashion
they
were
before
right
now.
The
community
policing
unit
unfortunately
has
to
prioritize
quality
of
life
issues
and
crimes
associated
with
downtown
in
the
main
street
business
district,
which
are
struggling
with
a
homeless
homeless
problem
and
what
that
brings
and
also
has
to
prioritize
engagement
with
our
spanish-speaking
population.
A
That
is
very
important.
We
have
a
diverse
community.
We
try
to
serve
all
facets
of
it,
but
when
you're
dealing
with
a
english
as
a
second
language
or
people
that
do
not
speak
english
speak
spanish,
we
have
to
keep
those
lines
of
communication
open
to
alleviate
the
concerns
of
that
are
specific
to
that
community.
B
A
I
would
I
would
characterize
it
as
a
very
significant
challenge
that
could
easily
turn
into
a
crisis
the
fact
that
we've
had
to
contract
our
cp
unit
to
the
degree,
the
community
police
union,
to
the
degree
that
we
have
diminish
those
services
which
are
part
of
the
dna
of
this
department
and
are
expected
by
the
community.
A
Also,
we've
had
to
you
know
our
our
detective
bureau
is
very
taxed,
handling
some
long-term
violent
crime
investigations
and
making
sure
that
those
are
completed,
and
those
are
things
that
are
not
easily
walked.
We
cannot
those
are
the
mon,
the
things
that
we
must
do
and,
unfortunately
put
a
lot
of
stress
on
the
department
and
the
detectives
and
again
I
want
to
revisit
the
day
in
and
day
out,
challenges
faced
by
our
patrol
officers.
A
It
is
a
interesting
community
to
police.
It
has
traditionally,
more
often
than
not
been
a
great
place
to
be
a
police
officer.
Unfortunately,
in
the
recent
past
and
unfortunately
in
the
recent
future,
we
have
a
challenge
to
work
through
to
restore
them
and
our
patrol
officers,
our
rank
and
final
officers
are
answering
their
calls
and
dealing
with
the
community
every
day
are
feeling
a
lot
of
that
pressure
and
it's
negatively
affecting
them.
C
A
I
think
it's
come
to
that
level
because,
like
you
said
you
said,
we're
we're
past
a
significant
challenge
and
we're
on
the
cusp
of
crisis.
So
that
is
something
that
the
community
needs
to
know.
I
think
the
rec,
the
department
of
the
chief
feels
that
that
needs
to
be
on
record.
A
You
know
this
is
a
city,
a
community,
a
department
that
values
transparency
that
we're.
You
know
that
the
average
citizen
is
accessible
to
officers
and
elected
officials,
and
we
need
to
say
in
a
no
uncertain
terms
what
the
situation
is.
It
does
not
benefit
anybody
and
it
doesn't
benefit
the
community.
Member
to,
I
would
say
not
necessarily
pretend
that
it's
not
occurring
but
not
to
make
everybody
aware
of
it
and
going
back
to
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
I
think.
Recently
a
publication
said
it's
in
the.
B
A
Of
evanston
to
be
involved
with
the
local
politics
and
and
kind
of
tinker
with
things,
there
is
a
large
portion
of
the
city
of
evanston
and
its
residents
that
really
value
public
safety
that
really
value
the
safety
of
their
children
and
their
families
and
myself
living
in
town.
I
speak
to
people,
they
tell
me
they
confide
in
me
that
that's
something
that's
worrisome
to
them,
and
you
know
those
individuals.
Those
residents
too,
need
to
be
informed
and
that
they
need
to
become
engaged
and
make
their
concerns
known.
C
C
A
You
know
they
may
be
allowed
to
leave
earlier
so
on
and
so
forth,
but
with
the
with
the
staffing
crisis
and
less
people
to
deal
with
these
issues,
our
officers
that
are
here
are
are
dealing
with
them.
More
often,
a
second
one
of
the
officers
also
providing
life-saving
measures.
That
13-year-old
was
on
a
shooting
10
months
ago,
where
he
was
providing
life-saving
measures
to
another
young
person
in
the
community
that
suffered
a
critical
gunshot
wound
and
is
now
struggling
with
the
long-term
effects
of
that.
A
So
it
is,
you
know
we
are
evolving
our
care
to
our
officers,
post,
critical
incident
and
for
prolonged
stress,
but
the
less
officer
the
the
the
incidents
are
not
decreasing.
One
could
argue:
they're
increasing
and
there's
less
officers
to
deal
with
it,
which
means
the
average
patrol
officer
and
the
average
detective
and
all
officers
in
the
department
are
going
to
be
facing
those
situations
more
and
more
because
there's
less
people
to
handle
more
situations.
A
A
Very
proactive
in
evolving
our
approach
to
officer
mental
health.
Part
of
that
is
because
the
safety
act
part
of
that
is
something
that
I
think
that
we
had
to
face
as
an
organization,
but
unfortunately,
during
in-progress
incidents,
things
get
missed
and
we
can't
revisit
them
until
later.