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A
Good
afternoon,
everyone,
this
is
New
York,
Mayor,
Steve
Haggerty,
welcome
to
the
first
in
a
series
of
conversations
that
we're
going
to
have
as
a
community
about
policing
here
in
Evanston.
We
are
right
now
scheduled
to
have
five
I
am
open
to
adding
additional
topics
of
conversation
here
in
the
community.
My
purpose
of
hosting
these
meetings
is
to
create
a
foundational
level
of
knowledge
among
all
of
us,
including
including
myself,
about
the
different
procedures,
training
budget
items
and
so
forth,
related
to
policing
here
in
Evanston.
A
So
the
first
five
series
that
we
have
this
is
the
first
one.
Today
it's
going
to
be
focused
on
police
training
and
I'll.
Have
the
participants
introduce
themselves
in
a
minute
the
next
one
we're
going
to
have
is
going
to
be
on
July
13th,
and
that
is
going
to
be
focused
on
the
Evanston
Police
Department
budget
I've
received
a
lot
of
emails
from
individuals
in
the
community
asking
us
to
defund
the
police.
If
we're
gonna
examine
our
Police
Department
in
our
police
operations,
we
have
to
examine
the
budget.
A
B
A
Findings
and
recommendations
from
the
task
force
that
I
appointed
a
couple
of
years
ago.
It's
also,
we
will
talk
about
how
all
that
works
here
in
Evanston.
We
are
live
right
now
on
the
local
TV
channel,
which
is
channel
16
as
well
as
Facebook
line.
If
you
have
questions
as
this
is
going
in,
please
post
those
questions,
Patrick
big
news,
our
public
information
officer
will
make
an
effort
to
push
those
to
me
through
the
zoom
chat
function
and
try
to
get
those
questions
in
we've
already
received
several
questions
from
the
community.
A
So
we'll
get
those
answers
today,
as
well.
So
before
we
get
right
into
the
questions.
What
I'd
like
is
for
each
of
the
panelists
just
to
introduce
themselves
really
quickly
and
if
they
work
in
the
city
of
Evanston,
what
their
role
is
here
with
the
city
events,
and
then
we
have
an
outside
guest
as
well.
She
gave
us
he
does
a
lot
of
training
and
like
him
to
introduce
himself.
So,
let's
start
with
you
chief
cook
and
your
folks,
there
yes.
E
A
You
and
she,
chief
chief
right
when
you
speak,
you
were
just
a
little
muffled
I
think
because
of
the
masks.
So
when
you
do
speak,
if
you
can
see
there
speak
louder,
so
folks
can
hear
you
all
right
and
then
we
have
a
outside
guest
as
well.
Chief
Davis,
would
you
just
like
to
introduce
yourself
particularly
your
role
in
other
organizations
that
work
with
police
departments
around
the
state
country?
Absolutely.
B
Mayor
it's
an
honor
to
be
here.
Thank
you
for
having
me
my
name
is
Mitchell
Davis
I'm,
the
police
chief
in
the
village
of
Hazel
Crest
I'm.
Also,
the
president
of
the
South
Suburban
Association
of
Chiefs
of
Police
I
am
the
first
vice
president
for
the
Illinois
Association
of
Chiefs
of
Police.
Next
year,
when
I
become
the
president,
I'll
be
the
first
african-american
in
the
80
year,
history
of
the
organization
to
hold
that
office
I'm
also
on
the
board
of
directors
for
the
International
Association
of
Chiefs
of
Police
and
I'm.
B
Also,
a
national
executive
board
member
for
the
national
organization
of
black
law
enforcement
executives
do
a
lot
of
teaching
on
exactly.
What's
going
on
right
now,
I've
traveled
around
the
country.
You
have
a
class
called
leadership
and
law
enforcement
from
a
Black
Keys
perspective
that
I've
traveled
the
country
teaching,
in
addition
to
other
classes,
I'm
also
a
member
of
the
Illinois
law
enforcement
training
and
standards
board.
B
B
A
You
know
I
think
I'm
gonna
start
start
with
you,
chief
chief
Davis,
because
of
all
your
experience
and
all
the
training.
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
demands
out
there
from
the
public
for
a
change
within
policing
in
all
different
ways.
Right
people
saying
we
want
demilitarization,
we
don't
want
any
schools
anymore.
We
want
police
defunded
and
all
of
that,
as
someone
who
is
a
leading
trainer
out
there,
could
you
just
share
with
our
audience
what
are
the
two
or
three?
B
You
know
talk
about
de-escalation
and
thanks
to
that
effect,
that
those
have
been
things
that
the
community
has
been
has
been
fighting
for
for
some
time
and
they've
been
implemented
to
some
extent
in
law
enforcement.
For
me,
everything
that's
going
on
right
now
is
opportunity.
That's
the
way
I'm
looking
at
it,
I.
Actually,
as
I
mentioned
to
you,
I've
been
fighting
for
some
of
the
changes
that
are
being
demanded
now
I've
been
fighting
for
some
of
those
changes
for
many
many
years
as
a
police
chief
and
they've
been
heard.
B
But
now
it
appears
as
though
you
know,
there's
gonna
be
more
action
as
far
as
the
training,
that
is,
that
is
taking
place.
The
escalation
school
officers
that
the
different
things
that
should
mention
I've
worked
in
schools
for
I,
worked
in
school
for
about
25
years
and
having
the
police
out
of
schools.
In
my
opinion-
and
my
experience
is
not
it's
not
about
not
having
them
in
schools,
it's
about
having
the
right
officers
in
school
and
having
the
right
program
in
school.
B
If
you
have
a
structured
program
in
school
and
the
officers
are
aware
what
their
expectations
are
and
you
have
the
correct
officers,
officers
that
are
good
with
young
people
in
the
schools
there,
there's
over.
My
thousands
of
young
folks
I've
had
positive
interactions
with
that
that
contact
me
today,
they're
adults,
they
got
their
kid.
They
got
kids
just
explaining
how
they
were
grateful
for
the
relationships
that
they
had.
B
They
serve
the
community
and
they
police
the
criminals
in
black
communities,
they
police,
everybody
and
that
mindset
and
that
culture
is
just
off.
You
know
if
you
look
back
in
history,
you
got
the
slave
catchers.
They
were
slave
catchers,
where
you
look
at
civil
rights
movement
back
in
the
50s
and
60s,
the
police
were
the
persons
who
were
putting
dogs
and
fire
hoses.
B
B
He
already
had
things
in
place
where
he
was
going
to
change
change
the
uniforms
out
of
the
camo
type
of
uniforms.
They
there's
a
job
to
be
done,
but
it's
not
what
you
do
is
how
you
do
it.
So
you
know
you
got
great
leadership
like
that.
It's
the
combination
of
that
and
attacking
these
concerns.
That's
gonna
make
the
the
change
that
needed
change.
That
needs
to
happen
in
law
enforcement.
A
Thank,
You,
chief
and
I
know
we're
gonna
talk
about
implicit
bias
and
in
other
items
on
the
when
we
get
to
the
training,
questions
and
again
we're
going
to
do
resource
officers
and
all
that
in
a
different
session
that
we're
gonna
have
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
So
why
don't
we
start
with
you
or
one
of
your
folks
there?
A
E
E
When
an
officer
is
hired
by
them
in
some
Police
Department,
they
are
sent
to
the
police
academy.
We
in
Evanston
we
use
a
few
different
academies.
We
send
our
members
to
the
scoville
police
academy,
we
send
them
to
the
Cook
County
sheriff's
police
academy,
and
then
we
also
use
the
south
suburban
law,
Enforcement
Academy,
which
is
at
the
College
of
DuPage.
E
The
state
of
Illinois
has
laid
out
standards
of
what
the
academies
need
to
cover
as
far
as
training
as
well
as
the
amount
of
time.
So
the
state
standard
is
now
560
hours
of
training.
Now
that
training
includes
defensive
and
control
tactics,
it
could
includes
firearm
spraying.
It
includes
classroom
training
over
law
it.
E
So
the
recruits
at
that
point
will
ride
with
the
field
training
officer
in
uniform,
responding
to
calls
the
service
handling
everything,
and
that
is,
is
what
you
call
kind
of
the
on-the-job,
on-the-job
learning
and
then,
like
I,
said
that
continues
for
20
weeks,
there's
weekly
and
mainly
evaluations
of
the
recruit
officers
done
not
only
by
the
field
training
officer
but
the
ship
sergeant.
And
then
we
also
have
a
field
training
coordinator
that
oversees
the
entire
program
and
monitors
the
effectiveness
of
the
program
itself,
as
well
as
prior
system
users.
E
A
A
A
Are
you
on
probation
at
that
time?
You
know:
can
you
talk
to
our
viewers
about
that
and
have
we
ever
had
a
situation
where
somebody
has
either
been
in
the
Academy
and
not
a
good
fit
and
then
tossed
out
or
you
know,
for
the
20
week,
training
program
just
didn't
have
what
we
expect
officers
don't
have
here
in
Evanston,
yet.
E
Yes,
sir,
there
we've
had
both
both
circumstances
that
he
mentioned
either,
for
whatever
reason:
discipline
just
not
a
good
fit.
Like
you
said
in
the
Academy,
they
can
be
asked
to
leave
during
the
Academy
and
then
again,
if
they're
not
meeting
the
standards
that
we're
setting
once
they
come
to
us
after
the
Academy.
Yes,
they
can
be
asked
to
leave
them
as
well.
Now,
as
far
as
the
probation
new
officers
are
actually
on
probation
for
much
longer
than
that,
their
probation
begins
when
they
graduate
the
Academy
and
actually
start.
E
Here,
it's
a
two-year
probation
and
within
that
two
years
they
you
know
they
don't
have.
If
you
want
to
call
it
the
protection
of
the
Union
they're
Apple
employees,
and
if
there
are
any
issues
that
come
up
while
they're
on
probation,
it's
a
different
process
to
terminate
them
or
ask
them
to
leave
than
it
is
with
established,
but
it
isn't
a
constant
evaluation
and
review
throughout
probation.
That's
just
the
field
training
program.
F
E
I
would
also
like
to
add
any
collective
dimension
that
a
couple
years
ago
we
here
in
Abington,
we
incorporated
a
lot
of
Edison
specific
training
and
information
in
the
field
training
program.
You
know
we
recognize
the
special
community
that
we
have
here
the
the
unique
history,
and
we
recognize
the
fact
that
the
training
that
the
officers
received
in
the
police
academy
may
not
well
while
they're
learning
the
laws,
while
they're
learning
best
practices.
E
A
Education,
wise
it
sounded
like
they
have
to
have
a
high
school
degree
or
that
you
said
they
could
have
a
GED,
but
they
have
to
have
at
least
sixty
hours
of
college
credit,
so
memory
serves
me.
That's
basically
like
an
associate's
degree
is
that
is
that
right,
I
mean
because
120
credits,
at
least
when
I
graduated,
that
was
about
what
it
was.
E
Yeah
and
that's
an
easy
thing
to
come
up
with
a
bit
later:
I
can
get
it.
You
know,
I
will
say
a
majority
of
officers
here.
Do
you
have
a
college
degree
and
as
far
as
promotional
purposes,
promotion
to
the
command
level
requires
a
bachelor's
degree.
Anything
above
above
sergeant
so
commander
deputy's,
you
can
see,
does
require
a
college
degree.
A
number
of
sergeants
and
commanders
do
hold
advanced
degrees
as
well,
but
I.
A
A
B
The
training
for
the
academies
is
dictated
specifically
by
the
Illinois
law
enforcement
training
and
standards
board,
so
there's
so
many
hours
in
each
subject
matter
that
it
has
to
happen
and
hours
that
those
total
hours
actually
just
got
increased
over
the
last
couple
years
due
to
additional
training
forward,
dealing
with
mental
illness
and
things
to
that
effect.
But
the
training
standards
board
specifically
dictates
what
is
required
and
the
Academy
is
certified
by
the
Illinois
law
enforcement
training
and
standards
board.
So
all
the
academies
across
the
board
are
gonna.
A
With
the
George
Floyd
incident,
we
saw
not
only
the
officer
who
had
his
knee
on
mr.
Floyd's
neck,
which
is
hard
for
anyone
to
watch.
We
saw
other
officers
not
injured,
intervene
and
from
a
training
perspective,
our
officers
in
general,
chief
Davis
and
then
specific
to
Evanston
chief
cook.
Are
they
trained
that
if
they
are
with
another
officer
who
is
not
following
protocol
to
intervene?
A
B
Historically,
I
think
I,
don't
think
that
has
been
pushed.
You
know,
that's,
that's.
A
cultural
thing
is
becoming
more
of
a
policy
thing.
People
are
are
specifically,
people
are
specifically
putting
those
measures
in
their
policies
now
I
know
we
have
now
in
my
policy,
and
it
was
not
that
specific
thing.
You
would
think
that
you
wouldn't
have
to
tell
somebody
to
stop
killing
this
guy.
You
know
you
would
think
that
that
would
be
that
wouldn't
be
something
policies
and
procedures
are
supposed
to
be
guidelines.
B
They
don't
cover
every
little
thing,
but
that's
where
culture
comes
into
place.
Culture
comes
into
place
and
there's
the
culture
within
the
organization
affects
the
way
that
people
act
with
any
organization
and
and
for
somebody
not
to
have
the
wherewithal
to
have
stopped.
That
incident
was
a
cultural
thing
and
my
purse,
all
the
training
in
the
world.
It
doesn't
change
the
culture.
So
it's
got
to
be
a
two
pronged
approach
and
putting
systems
in
place
so
that
officers
not
only
are
held
accountable
from
a
policy
standpoint,
but
they're
safe.
B
They
feel
safe
and
to
be
able
to
report
these
these
officers
and
report.
These
circumstances,
that
is
all
those
things,
have
to
be
taken
into
account
for
things
to
happen.
So,
to
answer
your
question,
quite
honestly,
it
hasn't
been
I,
don't
believe
it's
been
taught
whole
lot.
It
is.
Maybe
now
is
at
the
forefront
now
things
are
at
the
forefront,
but
you
know
once
again
you
would
think
that
you
wouldn't
have
to
specifically
put
that,
but
we've
got
we've
gotten
to
the
point
where
it.
Obviously
we
do
yeah.
C
Yes,
I
agree
with
chief
Davis
I
could
remember
that
code
of
silence
with
respect
to
how
people
were
handled
in
the
past,
where
it
was
clearly
several
officers
on
the
scene
watching
a
particular
incident
go
down
and
it
was
an
injury
to
a
person
and
by
the
time
that
people
were
was
completed,
everybody
had
the
same
story
or
you
had
individuals.
That
would
say:
I
was
there,
but
I
didn't
see
anything.
C
But
remember
years
ago,
in
my
perspective
from
here
in
Avastin,
under
Chief
Frank
Kaminsky,
they
started
holding
officers
accountable,
who
were
on
the
scene
who
should
have
known?
You
know
if
I'm
on
the
scene-
and
this
was
proud
of
body
cameras
if
we
felt
that
you
were
at
the
scene
and
you
were
actively
involved
in
whatever
investigation
or
arrest
was
going
on.
It
is
your
duty
to
say
some,
and
that
always
didn't
happen
if
chief
Davis
said,
but
it
has
become
more
prevalent.
C
In
again,
policy,
in
particular,
is
is
part
of
the
Alexa
phone
policies,
the
Alexa
poll.
It
is
a
standard
General
Order,
based
on
common
knowing
law.
Then
a
number
of
police
departments
utilized
but
I
think
cost
prohibits
a
lot
of
departments
from
purchasing
both
orders
and
in
the
use
of
force
order
under
the
less
Epona
policies.
It's
a
it's
a
section
for
duty
to
intercede
and
that
that
basically
says
that
it
is
your
duty
as
a
police
officer
to
stop
another
police
officer
from
overstepping
the
law
and
was
permissible
under
the
law
against
a
suspect.
C
So
we
we
have
that
in
our
policies
here
and
the
like
chief
thing
to
say
the
organizational
culture
and
law
enforcement
is
a
problem.
So
how
do
you?
How
do
you
deal
with
changing
an
organizational
culture?
You
constantly
preach
what
you
expect
whenever
we
review
these
situations.
A
use-of-force
first
thing
we
go
to
ism
is
the
body
cameras
and
we
look
at
who's
around.
A
I
appreciate
you
mention
it
in
that
sheet,
because
Jeff
I
think
it's
Jerrica,
you
know
Jarek
right
Jessica
may
have
been
his
type
tear
in
my
group.
Chat
did
just
ask
that
question
about.
How
does
cultural
change
happen
so
I
appreciate
I,
appreciate
you
mentioning
that,
because
I
think
that's
the
big
thing
that
needs
to
occur
in
a
lot
of
police
departments
across
this
across
this
country.
How
so
you
mentioned
body
cameras?
Can
you
talk
to
us
about
how
body
cameras
are
used
to
monitor
performance?
I
mean
obviously
they're
used?
A
If
someone
feels
disrespected
by
the
police
or
there
was
a
serious
incident
and
then
the
body
camera
footage
is
reviewed,
but
there
there
are
tens
of
thousands
of
hours
of
body
camera
footage,
that's
captured.
Do
you
use
that
in
training
in
any
way
or
to
monitor
performance
of
your
officers
are
just
a
spot
check?
All
your
officers
yeah.
D
We
do
there
so
when
we
first
implemented
body
cameras,
we
worked
with
the
unions
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
put
in
policy
is
that
a
sergeant
sort
of
first
line
supervisors
they're
required
to
do
monthly
checks,
just
random
checks.
So
what
they
do
is
they
look
at
each
individual
officer?
They
look
at
the
calls
of
service
that
they
responded
to
over
the
course
of
a
month
and
then
what
they
do
is
they
do
random
checks
of
those
calls
for
service.
D
So
it's
one
make
sure
that
the
officer
activated
their
body
camera
according
to
policy
and
then
two
to
look
at
that
interaction
and
make
sure
that
the
officer
had
them
to
call
appropriately.
So
that's
done
every
one
by
the
first
five
supervisors
with
every
patrolman,
also
within
a
police
department,
good.
D
Have
just
to
take
it
a
step
further.
We
have
had
situations
where
you
know:
supervisors
have
done
those
random
checks
and
couldn't
find
the
body
Emer
and
just
so
everyone
knows
that's
the
violation
of
policy
also,
so
the
supervisor
does
a
check
and
that
body
camera
footage
doesn't
exist
and
it
should
exist,
and
we
issue
discipline
based
on
violations
of
the
policy
for
not
having
a
body
camera
activated
when
it.
E
So
I
can
speak
to
that
I
mean
the
short
answer
to
that
is
yes,
and-
and
you
know
the
response
to
that
one
kind
of
touches
on
some
of
the
other
questions
that
were
raised,
but
de-escalation
is
taught
to
every
police
officer
from
their
days
in
the
Academy
and
it
you
know
now,
people's
a
lot
of
people
aren't
speaking
about
de-escalation,
but
it's
something
that
officers
have
been
trained
in
one
way
or
another.
For
you
know
throughout
the
history
of
law
enforcement,
so
it
is
incorporated
into
a
lot
of
other
trains.
E
For
example,
firearms
training
isn't
just
walking
up
to
a
target
and
shooting
theirs
commands
that
the
officers
give
prior
to
shooting.
There
are
situations
where
we
call
it
a
no
shoot
situation
where
an
officer
may
have
their
firearm
out,
but
they
are
instructed
to
use
gee
escalation
and
verbal
judo
tactics
to
de-escalate
that
situation,
and
then
it
turns
into
a
no
suit
situation.
That's
just
an
example:
taser
training
same
thing,
any
of
our
use
of
force
training
incorporates
de-escalation
training
into
it.
E
She
cook
had
mentioned
flexible,
which
is
how
we
manage
and
distribute
our
policies.
There's
daily
training
bulletins
from
the
lexical
policies
that
are
distributed
to
all
officers.
All
the
members
of
the
department-
and
you
know,
one
of
the
most
frequent
daily
training
sessions
is
on
use
of
force
and
the
escalation.
How
to
do
it.
The
department
works
with
outside
entities
to
conduct
training,
one
of
which
is
me
Mert,
which
stands
for
the
Northeast
multi
Regional
Training,
and
that
is
an
arm
of
the
Illinois
law
enforcement
training
standards
board,
which
chief
Davis
mentioned.
E
We
Mert
has
specific
de-escalation
training
courses
that
will
send
officers
to
throughout
the
year.
You
know,
depending
on
budget
schedule
officer
availability
will
send
people
to
that
that
we
identify
that
could
benefit
from
it
and
then
they
bring
that
training
back
to
the
department
for
their
shifts
or
their
bureaus.
In
addition
to
that,
the
department
uses
police
another
online
training
platform,
which
every
month
is
a
different
topic.
It's
an
online
lesson
followed
by
a
test
that
the
officers
need
to
complete
and
pass
just
as
recently
as
I
have
it.
E
F
C
C
Believe
have
completed
the
critical
incident,
training
that
teaches
officers
how
to
deal
with
individuals
in
mental
crisis
distress.
We've
had
officers
that
have
completed
that
training,
talk
people
down
from
committing
suicide
and
things
of
that
nature.
This
is
a
very
critical
part
of
our
training.
Is
this
CIT
trained
officers?
And
if
anybody
that
listens
to
the
scanner
in
Chicago
you're,
here
a
lot
of
times,
they're
calling
for
CIT
trained
officer
to
respond
to
it
to
a
scene,
FP
animal
s.
A
You,
chief
I'm,
sorry
I'm,
sorry,
massive
computer
failure
and
went
out
completely
went
out
completely.
Did
you
the
sergeant
levy?
I'm
Patrick
may
have
asked
us
when
I
got
cut
off
and
had
to
be
logged
back
on
what
training
to
officers
receive
on
a
yearly
basis.
Did
you
cover
that
and
if
you
did
that's
great,
could
you
tell
us,
like
the
number
of
you
know,
professional
development
of
continuing
education
hours
that
officers
have
here
in
Evanston?
C
Just
want
to
speak
on
the
command
level
first
and
then
I'll
that
sergeant
leaving
the
city
of
Emerson
has
considerable
a
lot
of
money
in
investing
in
the
education
of
officers
in
a
management
area
and
I.
Consider
management.
From
sergeant
on
the
sergeant
commander,
deputy
chief
and
chief
last
year,
we
sent
about
seven
or
eight
officers
through
the
center
for
public
safety
sergeants
at
Northwestern
University,
and
they
graduated
through
the
Stanford
command
program.
C
There
we
also
sent
I
think
three
or
four
officers
through
that
three-week
executive
leadership
class
there
and
either
these
are
some
of
the
best
classes
you're
going
to
find
their
law
enforcement
anywhere
in
America.
We
currently
have
a
couple
of
officers
scheduled
to
attend
the
SMR
P,
which
is
the
senior
management
institute
police
at
Harvard
University.
Those
are
our
upper
management
of
personnel.
That
class
gives
them
the
insight
into
critical
incidents.
C
How
to
handle
some
really
complex
ethical
dilemmas,
big
topics
that
perf
is
race.
How
many
you
racial
equity
issue
program
within
your
Police
Department?
So
it's
been
a
number
of
classes
on
the
command
level
that
you
know
aren't
necessarily
required,
but
in
the
interest
of
good
public
service
it
has
been
something
that
the
city
has
invested
greatly
in.
A
D
E
E
Some
training
is
annually
as
I
mentioned,
and
some
is
over
two
years
of
the
three
years
and
it's
broken
down
and
every
department.
Everyone
has
access
to
see
what
needs
to
be
done
when
it
needs
to
be
done,
the
frequency
and
whatnot.
So,
for
example,
you
had
mentioned
you
know
mental
health
and
she
cooked
mention
the
CIT
training
additionally,
that
that
not
CIT
training
specifically
of
mental
health
awareness
is
a
state
mandate
and
it
is
required
that
annually
officers
every
three
years
officers
go
through
a
mental
health
awareness
training
program.
E
Now
we
work
with
the
Illinois
law
enforcement
training
and
standards
board
to
to
take
that
training
to
our
officers
either
we
send
them
to
a
class
or
they
are
able
to
take
that
one
in
particular
online.
So
that's
just
one
example:
I
know
their
example
is
firearm
qualifications.
Just
because
of
the
seriousness
of
that,
that
is
obviously
an
annual
requirement
for
qualification
law
updates,
which
changed
only
annual
mendick
annual
training.
You
supports
annual
train,
something
like
constitutional
and
proper
use
of
authority.
That
is
a
mandate
that
is
every
three
years
requires
rating.
D
E
D
Just
ahead
know
the
chief
and
Sergeant
need
to
talk
about
crisis
intervention
training
we
do
have
maybe
70%
of
our
department
trained
in
crisis
intervention
I
think
we
are
I,
have
a
lot
of
departments
just
based
on
date.
You
know
initiative
from
our
individual
officers.
This
training
started
some
years
back
and
we
just
such
a
couple
of
officers
to
this
training.
It
was
the
word
of
mouth
for
those
officers
that
came
back,
saying
hey.
D
This
was
a
great
training
mincing
it
to
the
trainers
that
this
is
something
that
everyone
to
attend,
and
then
we
start
pushing
on
officers.
You
know
with
the
help
of
outside
training
facilities,
two
or
three
people
in
a
month,
sometimes
four
or
five
back
in
2016
and
2017,
and
we
were
able
to
snatch
up
a
lot
of
those
classes
that
other
departments
and
those
seats,
those
classes
that
other
departments
for
utilizing.
Another
thing
that
I
think
shows
the
effectiveness
of
that
training
is
that,
in
addition
to
the
ologist
diamondback
stand
misses
a
good
training.
D
A
Thank
You,
deputy
chief
chief,
did
chief
Davis
a
question
for
you.
You
know.
We've
talked
about
some
of
the
some
of
the
training
here,
hey
I'm
curious.
If
you're
hearing,
if
you're
not
hearing
anything
that
we
ought
to
be
hearing
in
terms
of
what
we're,
what
we're
doing
here
in
Evanston
but
I'm
also
curious.
A
B
Well,
I
would
say
no,
but
what
what
has
happened
is
when
our
social
programs
were
eliminated.
So
we're
talking
this
this
kind
of
goes
into
DV
funding.
Yeah,
you
hear
the
terminology
and
request
to
defund
the
police,
or
what
happened
was
there
were
social
services
that
have
already
been
defunded
and
what
happened
with
those
social
services
is
now
they
are
fallen.
On
law
enforcement,
the
you
know
dealing
with
the
homeless,
dealing
with
the
mentally
ill
dealing
with
substance,
abuse
issues,
we're
gonna.
B
Do
we're
just
cut
that
where
we're
going
to
do
what
we
have
to
do
to
serve
our
communities,
but
when
no
social
service
programs
working
for
they
were
defunded
those
pros
now
services
fell
primarily
on
law
enforcement
and
once
again
we
adapt
in
Concord.
We
keep
going.
We
train
our
officers
to
try
to
equip
them
as
best
we
can.
But
you
know
what
what
hasn't
happened
is
with
the
response.
The
added
responsibility
we
didn't
get
at
it
funding.
B
You
know
we
just
had
to
do
what
we
had
to
do
in
order
to
prepare
ourselves
to
deal
with
these
things.
So
do
I
think
that
you're
the
community
that
society
is
asking
too
much
I,
don't
because
once
again
we
do
what
we
do,
but
there
are
areas
where
we
can't
improve
to
provide
us
with
assistance,
and
there
are
when
I
went
on
spoke
on
Capitol
Hill
back
in
October,
and
it
was
specifically
National.
B
League
of
Cities
was
hosting
a
panel
and
it
was
specifically
about
law
enforcement,
handling,
homelessness,
substance
abuse
and
mental
illness,
and
I
was
so
pleasantly
surprised
that
there
are
communities
out
there
and
most
of
them
are
larger
communities
they're
like
Evanston's,
or
something
like
that.
They're,
not
Hazel
Crest.
We
just
don't
have
the
resources,
but
there
are
communities
out
there
that
are
being
proactive
that
have
people
on
their
payroll
that
you
know
when
a
dispatcher
gets
a
call
of
a
certain
type.
B
This
is
an
opportunity
for
resources
to
be
re-implemented,
those
some
of
those
social
programs
that
were
taken
off
the
table
that
can
now
assist
us
and
allow
us
to
partner
with
those
true
professionals
that
really
know
what
they're
doing
as
far
as
the
training,
what
you
guys
are
doing
or
may
not
be
doing.
You
know
the
you
know,
chief
chief
cook
is
you
know,
as
far
as
I
believe
walks
on
water.
You
know,
that's
that's.
B
B
I
know
he's
the
key
and
his
staff
are
doing
the
things
that
need
be
done,
but
just
one
thing:
that's
important
for
the
viewers
to
know
that
in
addition
couple
years
ago,
in
addition
to
it-
and
she
cook
was
instrumental
in
some
of
this
stuff
too,
in
addition
to
our
annual
use
of
force,
a
percentage
of
that
use
of
force
has
to
be
scenario-based.
So
it's
not
all
just
theory.
B
We
and
one
of
the
ways
that
we
get
that
scenario-based
training
is
through
simulators
and
things
like
that
and
she
cooked
was
I
will
say
he
was
pretty
much
solely
responsible.
We
have
a
system
out
in
the
south
suburbs
that
all
of
our
departments
are
utilized
for
scenario
based
training
and
when
he
was
in
the
south
suburbs,
he
was
the
man
that
was
pretty
much
single-handedly
responsible
for
us.
I
think
it
was
almost
a
million
dollar
system
and
he
was
responsible
for
us
obtain
a
net
so
guys
are
in
great
hands.
Thank.
A
C
But
my
goals
are
to
network
more
and
try
to
see
we
used
to
be
able
to
do
in-house
training
through
our
own
in-house
experts,
but
now,
under
with
the
Illinois
law,
enforcement,
training
and
standards
for
all
of
our
classes
have
to
be
certified
through
them,
and
we
have
people
in-house
that
have
the
credentials
to
teach
it's
just
a
matter
of
their
curriculum
being
certified
through
the
Illinois
and
all
of
the
training
standards
board.
So
one
of
my
goals
is
to
have
us
get
somewhere.
C
Our
in-house
trainers
write
a
program
and
get
them
certified
where
they
can
teach
in-house,
and
we
receive
credit.
I
do
believe
in
having
strong
relationships
with
our
neighbors
and
skokie
has
been
a
really
good
neighbor
since
I've
been
here
in
terms
of
utilizing
equipment.
There's
a
million
dollar
should
be
simulated.
That
chief
Davis
was
talking
about.
C
Skokie
has
won
and
chief
Scott
Pelley
last
week,
which
everybody
said
he
wouldn't
let
us
use
I
called
him.
He
said
no
problem,
so
we're
going
to
be
able
to
send
the
people
from
the
Citizen
Police
Commission
through
that
simulator,
to
give
them
an
opportunity
to
a
few
real-life
use
of
force
situations
involving
handguns.
They
never
give
them
a
greater
perspective
on
how
to
view
what
the
police
officer
does
so
again
getting
on
training
certified
network.
What
our
neighbors
thank.
A
You
thank
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Chief
I'm
gonna
ask
all
of
us
now
we're
going
to
go
into
a
wrap
it
around,
because
we
got
a
lot
of
questions
from
folks
and
I
want
to
get
through
them
and
wrap
this
up
in
no
more
than
15
minutes
that
that
will
have
given
us
an
hour
here.
I
do
want
to
remind
everybody
watching.
We've
received
a
lot
of
questions,
so
thank
you.
We're
focusing
today
just
on
training
the
other
questions
for
our
series
that
we're
gonna
have.
In
other
conversations,
we
will
get
those
questions
answered.
A
E
The
bias
training
goes
in
hand
a
lot
of
times
with
procedural
justice
training.
For
us,
we
have
three
in-house
instructors
that
did
a
department-wide
training
up
a
couple
years
back
we
before
Cove
in
nineteen
Evan.
We
were
working
with
the
anti-defamation
league,
who
has
a
specific
program
for
law
enforcement,
about
implicit
bias,
training
we're
working
to
try
to
get
that
back
once
things
normalize
a
little
bit
and
as
well.
The
monthly
online
training
that
we
conduct
that
every
officer
goes
through.
C
Well,
we,
the
city
of
Evanston,
sponsored
a
trainer
from
Atlanta,
did
put
on
a
really
good
implicit
bias
program.
I've
been
a
certified
cultural
diversity,
instructor
myself,
which
state
Illinois
for
the
last
twenty
five
years
and
just
recently
I
completed
put
in
the
last
two
years.
The
implicit
bias
training
that
Northwestern
University
put
on
that
the
law
school
down
at
all
superior
street.
C
You
know
to
say
racist
specific.
You
know
it's
a
mixture
of
implicit
bias,
race
and
making
people
understand
what
other
communities
are
about.
That's
done
in
a
number
of
ways
here,
not
only
through
training
but
through
interact,
actual
interaction
with
the
public
through
our
problem-solving
team
who,
in
the
neighborhoods
across
all
sections
of
this
town,
interacting
and
understanding
what
the
concerns
are
and
what
people
feel
about.
The
police
department.
A
A
You
know
march
march
through
Evanston
a
month
ago
and
just
just
take
our
viewers
real
quickly
like
through
the
thought
process
of
how
you
all
wanted
to
you
know
either
police
that
event
are
really
not
even
police
if
I
keep
people
safe
during
that
event
and
how
you
thought
about
that,
especially
with
everything
that
was
going
on
around
the
country.
Well,
it
is.
C
A
unique
town,
you
know
we
understand
our
residents
and
we
understand
that
they
have
a
right
to
protest.
Well,
we
have
a
large
protest
like
that.
Our
perspective
is
just
to
provide
a
safe
route
and
protection
for
our
crowd.
We
don't
want
somebody
driving
through
there
with
a
car.
You
know
that
happens
in
America
these
days.
We
don't
want
people
to
feel
alike,
we
don't
trust
em
by
having
police
real
visible.
C
So
when
we
head
to
lunch
with
the
high
school,
we
had
our
officer
staged
off
of
the
route,
only
two
officers
to
buy
traffic
at
the
intersections,
and
you
know
by
doing
it
like
that,
you
know
we
have
a
situation
in
front
of
the
station
yesterday,
where
we
had
two
of
them
painting.
You
know
it'll
do
more
harm
than
good
to
intercede
under
that
they
think
long
as
people
aren't
harming
each
other
they
voice
and
they
rights.
We
try
to
manage
it.
C
C
Yes,
now
we
have
at
the
city
manager
level
now,
but
when
I
came
here,
you
know
I
wanted
to
increase
the
interaction
with
youth.
So
we
took
the
model
that
that
is
currently
in
the
districts
in
Chicago
and
I.
Had
mr.
David
cherry
and
commander
Connor
research,
the
Youth
Advisory
Committee
and
all
the
district
level
interactions
in
Chicago
that
they
have
with
youth
and
I,
had
been
involved
with
the
STEM
program
here
in
Evanston
that
I
was
in
high
school
and
I
found
it.
C
We
have
some
incredibly
smart
students
at
that
school
and
their
opinion
is
going
to
shape
the
future.
So
we
want
to
have
that
Advisory,
Youth,
Advisory
Committee
in
our
department.
We
have
a
young
lady
right
here
now:
Maya
she's,
one
of
the
hippie
pile
foundation,
students,
who's
interested
in
law
enforcement
and
she's
shadowing
me
to
see
how
I
operate
and
and
they
rotate
around.
So
we
do
a
lot
to
interact
with
you
soon.
A
Right
not
not
to
mention
we
have
a
community
outreach
group
here
in
Evanston.
That's
that's
been
in
our
city
for
many
many
years
that
is
out
there
doing.
You
know
outreach
to
young
people
throughout
our
community
as
well
as
working
on
workforce
development
issues
for
them
as
well
as
working
with
the
summer
who
may
or
some
of
you
can
join
their
program.
A
I
think
people
would
be
very
interested
cheap,
especially
at
this
moment
on
the
Youth
Advisory
Council
that
you
talked
about
setting
up
something
similar
to
Chicago,
so
I
think
the
sooner
you
could
set
up
such
a
committee,
probably
the
better
and
again,
you
know
we're
having
a
series
of
these
so
for
the
future,
one
you
have
details
and
you
want
to
share.
We
can
that
we
can
get
folks
I'm
sure
that
would
be
interested
in
applying
to
beyond
that
all
right.
A
C
Well,
you
know
we
tried
to
use
only
the
force
necessary
to
affect
the
arrest.
That's
what
the
state
law
says,
only
the
force
necessary
to
affect
the
arrest
constant.
You
know
the
state
mandates
that
we
qualify
with
our
weapons
once
a
year.
We
do
that
many
times
a
year,
so
that
we
can
be
as
proficient
as
possible
with
any
weapon.
We
have
whether
it's
a
tailor
or
a
handgun
and
in
the
event
of
a
situation
we'll
be
able
to
show
the
amount
of
training
that
far
exceeds
what
is
required.
Clattering.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
How
about
chief
Davis
security
training
all
over
and
this
seems
to
be
a
standard
protocol?
Why
are
police
officers
this
person's
asking?
This
is
Karen
as
well?
Why
are
police
officers
not
trained
to
ask
a
person
that
has
pulled
over
to
step
out
of
the
car
instead
of
remaining
in
the
car,
and
she
says:
wouldn't
that
provide
the
officer
in
the
individual
with
better
protection
they
were
outside
the
vehicle.
B
Asking
somebody
to
exit
their
vehicle
is,
is
more
invasive
and
and
that's
why
the
circumstances
dictate
whether
or
not
we
ask
somebody
out
of
their
vehicle
once
again,
you
know
most
times
we're
stopping
folks
is
is
for
some
type
of
traffic
violation,
and
you
know
asking
them
to
get
out
of
their
car.
It
just
is
more
invasive,
so
you
know
we.
We
are
trained
to
deal
with
individuals
that
are
in
their
car,
so
you
know
we're
adequately
trained
to
be
able
to
manage
those
situations
and
being
in
the
car.
B
A
So
I'm
all
the
training
that
we
get
when
we
learn
to
drive
and
everything
if
an
officer
pulls
you
over
correctly,
everybody's
had
an
officer
pull
them
over
at
one
time
or
another
for
something
you
stay
in
the
car
and
you
keep
your
hands
on
the
wheels.
That's
what
we're
trained
to
do
right
so
and
I
know
when
people
jump
on
the
car
makes
officers
pretty
nervous
yeah.
A
A
This
is
from
Sharon.
What
is
the
what
is
the
same
in
what
is
different
now
after
that
2015
Lawrence
Crosby
incident
that
that
we
had,
and
that
was
over
on
Ridge
Avenue
yeah.
So
what's
what's,
and
we
did
a
big
review
after
that,
and
the
city
changed
some
police
policies.
Can
you
just
talk
real
briefly
about
that
and
let
our
viewers
know
is
that
still
on
the
minds
of
a
lot
of
us.
C
The
video
mr.
Crosby
accosted
by
the
police
and
I
had
conversation
in
which
he
mentioned
about
that
and
got
its
perspective
on
it.
When
I
came
here,
they
were
in
the
final
phases
of
allocation
of
money
for
making
a
mr.
Crosby
whole
from
the
actions
of
the
police.
My
job
became
dead
is
to
ensure
that
the
officers
involved
had
the
proper
training
to
not
do
that
again.
C
It
was
a
supervisor
involved
in
that
and
in
order
to
make
him
whole
I
had
to
send
him
to
no
Western
University
staff
had
come
in
and
he's
in
the
process
of
completing
completing.
That
course
not
so
you
know,
anytime,
you
have
an
incident
that
is
catastrophic,
like
that.
You
have
to
provide
the
proper
training
so
that
people
know
what
they
did
is
wrong,
and
that
makes
it
easier
for
you
to
move
forward
in
the
future
if
they
do
something
with
a
disciplinary
action.
Yeah.
A
A
Deplete
the
police
went
when
is
an
incident.
The
police
always
respond
to
the
residents,
questions
or
whoever
again
I'm,
not
quite
sure,
I,
understand,
Charles
he's
the
specific
questions.
Why
aren't
police
required
to
respond
to
residents
questions?
Is
this
part
of
their
training?
So
I
mean
we
have
two
situations?
We
have
someone
who
might
be
a
suspect
of
something
thing
or
pulled
over
and
they
may
have
questions
long
as
I
pulled
over.
A
D
You
said
he's:
each
situation
will
be
different
if
you're
a
suspect
and
you're
being
pulled
over
and
you're
asking
questions
as
to
why
you're
being
pulled
over
the
police
officer.
Tell
you,
police
officer
should
tell
you
at
that
initial
contact.
You
know
this
is
the
reason
why
I'm
stopping
you.
You
know
this
is
who
I
am
and
give
them
an
explanation
of.
Why
they're
being
stopped
at
that
present
time
and
in
that
moment,
and
it
should
be
cleared
so
the
person
that's
being
stopped.
D
Why
they're
being
stopped
as
it
relates
to
just
a
general
call
for
service
and
you're
a
bystander
walking
by
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
may
come
into
play,
primarily
the
privacy
of
the
individuals
that
we
may
be
there
to
serve.
Not
every
situation
would
dictate
us
and
forming
a
citizen
right
away.
You
know
as
to
what's
going
on
at
that
particular
time
we
may
be
able
to
give
them
just
general
information.
Hey
we're
responding
to.
D
You
know
a
call
of
a
service
and
someone
someone
you
know
that's
asking
for
help,
but
that
may
be
all
we've
been
able
to
tellement
at
time
just
for
privacy
issues.
In
addition
to
that,
you
know
if
we
have
like
a
big
crime
scene
out
and
we're
conducting
a
serious
investigation,
a
lot
of
the
things
we
don't
want
to
put
out
right
away
to
protect
the
integrity
of
the
investigation.
A
C
A
The
public,
okay,
Thank,
You
chief
and
then
chief
Davis,
won't,
will
and
end
on
you.
You
just
heard
she
cooks
response
to
that.
How's,
the
Evanston,
EPD
and
officers
improve
and
learn
from
their
mistakes.
Is
there
anything
that
you
would
want
to
add
in
terms
of
how
other
departments
are
continuously
improving
and
learning
from
from
past
mistakes?
A
B
There's
an
expression
that
I
heard
some
time
ago
that
I
used
in
my
some
of
my
trainings,
and
it
says
that
it's
hard
to
hate
up
close
and
with
that
in
mind,
that's
some
of
the
things
from
a
leadership
standpoint
that
I
try
to
saw.
It
I
believe
that
almost
everything
in
life
revolves
around
relationship
and
if
we
can
get
our
officers
to
experience
and
understand
empathy
for
those
that
they
serve.
That
is
how
we
move
forward.
B
You
know
I
might
be
arresting
you
for
something
and
but
I
know
you
and
I
understand
you
I
might
understand
why
you
did
what
you
did
and
it
doesn't
necessarily
excuse
what
you
did,
but
I'm
gonna
treat
you
in
a
different
light
and
going
so,
and
so
those
are
the
things
that
I
push
is
is
get
to
know
those
folks.
So
there
are
people
there,
there's
gonna
be
people
within
our
ranks
that
may
or
may
not
have
proper
mindset.
B
I'll
just
put
it
that
way
they
may
have
by
not
necessarily
implicit
but
explicit
bias
that
they
are
well
aware
of,
and
they
just
that's
just
their
train
of
thought,
but
as
a
leader
you've
got
to
make
it
clear
that
you
know
our,
you
may
feel
those
things
are
against
what
my
leadership
philosophies
are.
They
will
not
be
tolerated
and
there
will
be
consequences
for
them
and
we
want
to
just
treat
people
old
and
rule
comes
into
play,
treat
people
the
way.
You
would
want
yourself
if
this
was
your
family
member.
A
Thank
You
chief
and
thank
you
for
spending
some
time
with
us
today.
We
really
appreciate
it
that
was
chief
Mitchell
Davis
is
the
vice
president
of
the
Illinois
Association
of
Chiefs
of
Police
and
a
board
member
of
the
Illinois
law
enforcement
training
and
standards
board,
and
also
the
Chief
of
Police
of
Hazel
Crest,
Police
Department,
and
so
thank
you.
Thank
you,
chief
cook,
Thank
You,
deputy
chief
Wright
and
sergeant
levy,
as
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning.
This
is
a
series
of
conversations
on
policing
here
in
Evanston
this
was
the
first
one.
A
Today
this
will
run
on
channel
16
throughout
the
week.
Probably
if
it's
live
right
now,
but
come
Wednesday,
it'll
be
up
there
and
run,
and
then
next
Monday
we
will
have
our
second
in
the
series,
and
that
is
going
to
be
on
the
Evanston
Police
Department
budget.
We
will
have
a
few
of
our
folks
from
the
Budget
Office
here
and
we'll
actually
do
a
split
screen
of
sorts,
so
you'll
actually
be
able
to
see
the
numbers.
We
won't
just
talk
about
the
numbers
and
can
have
that
conversation.
So,
thank
you.
A
Everybody
for
tuning
in
Evanston
when
it
comes
to
our
police,
I
think
is
doing
a
lot
of
things
right
here.
I
think
we
have
implemented
a
lot
of
progressive
changes
over
the
years,
including
our
alternatives
to
arrest
committee
and
handling
that
here
locally
instead
of
in
the
in
the
county,
Criminal
Court
and
you
know
having
our
citizens
review
our
complaint
process,
as
well
as
the
nine
citizens
recently
who
are
just
appointed
to
the
Citizen
Police
Review
Commission
will
start
to
review
complaints
that
come
up
as
well
as
implementing
high
camera.