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A
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
July
9
2019
meeting
of
the
Evanston
Preservation
Commission,
we
have
a
quorum
of
seven
members
present
before
starting
on
the
scheduled
business.
I
think
we
had
concluded
that
one
of
the
items,
our
new
business
8:28
call
facts-
could
be
administratively
approved
due
to
the
minor
nature
of
the
work
and
didn't
require
Commission
approval.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
there
was
no
one
in
the
audience
who
is
here
other
than
the
applicants
architect
to
speak
to
that.
A
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
Using
again
the
light
gray
rather
than
the
black
go
composite,
shingles
and
I
know
a
number
of
the
commissioners
came
over
and
actually
looked
at
it.
I
didn't
happen
to
be
there
when
anybody
did
but
I
know
a
number
of
people
inspected.
It
know
it
was
a
an
initial
point
of
information
that
people
have
requested.
B
A
Okay,
so
what
why
don't?
We
follow
a
methodology,
I'm
trying
to
ask
questions
and
then
ask
you
to
be
seated
and
see
if
anybody
else
wants
to
speak
and
have
discussion,
so
I
just
want
to
understand
the
kind
of
the
setting
the
alternatives.
So
the
the
first
alternative
is
you
have
the
right,
I
believe
without
approval,
just
simply
replace
the
existing
roof
with
the
same
materials,
and
we
don't
have
any
say
in
color.
Is
that
correct?
So
in
that
case,
no
approve
will
be
needed.
A
A
I
wasn't
sure
that
details
were
clear.
The
I
think
I'd
read
in
the
company
materials
that
you
were
proposing,
I
think
it's
at
fifteen
stacking
plant
at
the
edge
of
every
call
correctly
and
then,
when
we
went
to
see
the
sample,
I
think
Ike
and
I
saw
the
pictures
of
it
in
here.
I
counted,
maybe
eight,
and
then
you
know
this
riff
I
realize
isn't
your
roof,
but
it
looks
different.
Is
their
precise
plan
for
the
new
roof
that
you're
proposing?
Yes,.
B
The
the
we
use
a
this
composite
cedar,
roofing
system
with
the
15
courses,
which
will
add
to
my
cost
and
roughly
an
additional
seventy
eight
thousand
dollars,
and
the
reason
why
I
am
willing
to
spend
the
money.
The
extra
money
is
that
it
comes
with
a
50
year
warranty
and
my
experience
with
the
cedar
shingles
stained
black
as
they
are
and
I
think
that
may
be
one
of
the
major
reasons,
but
the
deterioration
is
simply
it's
not
it's
not
a
cost-effective
solution
have
I
stand
corrected
the
total
price
for.
B
A
Said
that
the
the
reason
I'm
asking
these
questions
is
I,
think
everybody's
gonna
want
to
know
what
the
proposed
riff
is.
Gonna
look
like
and
I
realize
it's.
You
know
it's
not
so
simple,
but
the
the
15
courses
seemed
quite
different
than
the
sample
that
was
on
the
roof.
Is
that
sample
just
kind
of
a
partial
sample
and.
B
A
B
A
All
right,
so,
where
is
there
any
I
mean
I
didn't
see
in
the
drawings
any
I
realize
it's
not
easy,
but
tempted
depict
with
a
new
roof.
Would
look
like
beyond
those
samples,
I
mean
I
know.
It
is
really
helpful
that
you
brought
in
the
the
the
building
from
California
I'm,
not
sure
that
you're
I
mean
is
your
intent
that
it
look
like
that
or
is
it.
B
B
B
A
B
D
A
E
Of
the,
in
addition
to
the
cost
differential,
obviously
the
synthetic
is
more
expensive.
Now,
in
the
hopes
of
saving
money
on
maintenance,
did
you
get
a
and
they
said
that
that
has
a
fifty
year
warranty
for
that?
Yes,
is
it
a
couple
of
clarifications?
Is
it
just
the
shingles
themselves
or
does
the
whole
installation
is
warranted?
Do
you
know
I.
B
E
B
That's
one
of
the
serious
drawbacks,
the
manufacturer's
warranty,
the
cedar,
shingle
aways
differences
between
shingles
and
shapes.
Occasionally
you
don't
care
about
these
things
which
I
didn't
used
to
the
manufacturer's
warranty
on
the
shingles
is
voided
if
you
stain
the
shingle.
So
if
I
went
with
a
cedar,
shingle
I
would
have
zero
warranty.
B
That's
where
the
non
deterioration
is
of
the
the
fire
retardant
requirement.
No,
it's
you.
The
the
city
house,
I
think
it's
a
great
sea
fire
retardant
requirement,
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
difference
is
between
a
B
and
C
with
shingles,
but
you've
got
okay.
You
ask
the
question:
you've
got
fire
retardant
issues,
you
know
material,
you
can
do
the
you
know
the
wood
preservation.
Are
you
call
it
the
guacamole
wood
with
a
impregnate,
the
pine
with
you
should
be
copper,
arsenate
I,
don't
know
what
it
is.
Now
you
can
put
on
anti
moss.
B
B
Each
one
of
those
is
supposed
to
help
with
different
things:
it's
not
clear
at
least
to
me
how
well
they
interact
together
or
whether
you
need,
for
example,
to
have
the
the
if
you've
got
a
fire
protective
coating,
whether
you
also
need
to
do
the
wood,
preservative,
coating
and
I
can't
find
any
information
that
says
one
way,
one
way
or
the
other,
but
I
was
still
specifically
once
I
stained
it,
which
of
course,
I
have
to
do
was
make
it
black.
No
warranty
can.
D
We
just
talk
about
I
just
have
a
question,
so
the
material
as
wood
I,
wonder
if
and
I,
don't
know
how
the
Commission's
going
to
vote,
but
would
it
be
acceptable
if
he
did
because
I
think
staining
it
just
if
there's
no
warranty-
and
we
know
that
staining
a
shingle
roof
is
not
a
great
thing
for
preserving
it.
Is
that
something
it's
just
something
to
think
about.
Is
that
an
acceptable?
If
that
was
a
decision?
Would
that
be
acceptable.
A
F
Don't
think
we
do,
although
I
did
want
to
say
just
from
my
previous
life
at
the
Park
Service
excetera,
it
I
agree.
If
you
put
a
roof
on
and
then
painted
it,
then
that's
not
good
for
a
shingle.
However,
the
typical
method
of
shingling
roofs
when
you're
dealing
with
things
like
this
is
actually
dipping.
The
shingles
before
you
put
them
on
the
roof
with
actually
extends
the
life
of
the
shingle
and
gives
it
more
UV
protection.
B
F
A
G
I
have
a
question
you,
you
indicated
that
it's
$42,000
to
pre
dip.
What
is
it
if
you
had
just
gone
out
there
with
a
I
guess
what
you're
describing
is
post-installation
staining,
which
I
wouldn't
recommend
either,
but
I
don't
understand
that
that
to
make
it
black
was
gonna
cost
you
something
as
well.
Yes,.
B
B
Probably
bastardizing
what
the
terminology
is,
what
sort
of
preservation
spray,
which
is
a
couple
grand,
so
you
know
when
you're
trying
to
compare
apples
and
apples
you
get
into
a
question
of
you
know:
what's
the
cost
and
then
what's
the
the
maintenance
but
I
think
clearly,
if,
if
you
were
to
take
a
look
at
the
what
the
cost
is
over
thirty
years,
you
know
let
alone
50
years.
There
are
certain
with
the
cedar.
F
Although
in
theory
of
trying
to
protect
your
shingles
from
you
be
etc,
that
I
mean
typically
pre
dipping
is
recommended
so
you're,
actually
that
forty
thousand
is
actually
going
towards
the
longevity
of
your
roof.
I
sympathize
with
you.
They
have
a
an
Evanston
landmark
with
a
35
year
old,
cedar,
shingle
roofing.
So.
H
H
G
B
B
B
Ventilation,
you
know
all
sorts
of
other
things
the
the
problem
I
have
is
it's
premature
deterioration
and
I.
Think
as
I
mentioned
before
since
I
moved
in
22
years
ago,
I've
already
spent
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
repairs,
including
you
know,
staining
and
what-have-you,
and
now
faced
with
a
significant
cost
and
I.
H
B
H
A
A
D
I,
just
unfortunately,
I
think
that
the
synthetic
material
just
will
never
never
ever
look
like
the
cedar
roof.
That's
there
and
not
it's
just
not
the
eve
condition.
It's
just
the
way.
It's
sort
of
organically
folds
around
the
shapes
and
not
a
regular
pattern,
and
because
I
mean
I
I
know
it's.
You
know.
There's
there
is
an
upkeep
that
there
is.
There
are
places
where
there
hasn't
been
upkeep
and
I'm
sure
that
is
added
to
the
deterioration.
D
F
I
have
to
agree,
and
thank
you
for
doing.
The
mock-up
I
spent
a
considerable
amount
of
time
in
your
yard
and
across
the
street
to
knock
around,
and
you
know
hoping,
as
I
said,
even
from
a
person
with
a
cedar,
shingle
roof
that
you
know
the
product
said
had
you
know
they
would
replicate
I,
suppose
the
benefit
and
the
downside
of
living
in
a
beautiful
house
that
is
such
a
incredible
landmark
in
Evanston
for
the
way
that
the
roof
is
constructed
and
for
those
you
know
every
part
of
it,
the
eaves,
the
top
the
rules.
F
A
Okay,
well,
nobody
else,
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
replacement
of
the
existing
cedar,
shake
roofing
material
with
synthetic
composite
shingles
from
enviro
single,
using
the
15
stacking
pattern,
in
accordance
with
applicable
standards
for
alterations,
one
through
six,
nine
and
ten.
Is
there
a
second.
A
I
J
A
C
Mr.
Ross
I
want
to
thank
you
very
much
for
all
the
time
you
put
together
the
information,
the
mock-up
the
opportunity,
and
you
gave
the
Commission
to
visit
your
home,
and
we
hope
that
the
decision
does
not
discourage
you
from
maintaining
the
home,
which
is
a
landmark,
a
very
important
art
market
in
Evanston.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
personally
about
that.
C
J
I
K
K
K
Smaller
than
the
garage
I
mean
it's,
it's
a
pretty
small
front
volume
and
then
there's
a
kind
of
equally
sized
but
lower
roof.
In
the
back.
The
front
volume
has
the
parlor
dining
room
library
on
the
first
floor
and
two
bedrooms
and
one
bath
on
the
second
and
the
rear
volume.
On
the
first
floor
is
the
kitchen
family
room,
combo,
that's
new
and
dining
room
and
master
dining
room,
and
then
the
master
suite
is
above.
K
On
the
second
floor,
the
design
goals
were
to
create
an
informal
open
kitchen
and
living
space
in
the
back
and
get
a
real
indoor/outdoor
feel
in
the
in
the
back
volume
and
a
variety
of
outdoor
spaces
with
year-round
appeal.
My
clients
are
very
interested
in
a
mix
of
contemporary
and
original
features.
K
One
of
the
challenges
is
that
the
ceiling
heights
in
the
back
volume
are
a
lot
lower.
Their
desire
to
have
this
big
open
space.
We
we
decided
to
and
and
also
their
desire
to
have,
the
back
connect
to
the
outdoors
a
little
better
than
it
does
right.
Now
we
are
lowering
the
floor
in
the
entire
back
volume
of
the
house,
but
let
me
start
with
the
front,
though
so
the
front
volume
remains,
as
is
with
the
exception
of
restoring
a
buried
transom
at
the
front
door.
K
So
we
can
see
it
on
the
inside,
but
they've
covered
it
with
siding
on
the
outside
and
then
replacing
the
wood
duck
staircase
in
the
back
with
same
size,
but
a
stone
with
with
a
metal
rail,
okay.
So
the
in
the
rear,
the
roof
volume
of
the
original
house
is
there
and
we're
adding
a
perpendicular
volume
going
in
the
north-south
direction
and
removing
the
screened-in
porch
and
just.
I
K
Yes,
I
think
most
of
you
have
copies
of
these
photos,
but
I
think
the
top
one
is
your
shows
kind
of
in
context
how
small
small,
the
houses
I
think
I
mentioned
briefly,
that
the
garage
is
there's
a
four
stall
garage
in
the
back.
It's
brick
that
goes
almost
flat
line
tool
outline
so
that
takes
up
a
lot
of
the
lot
cover.
K
K
I
C
H
L
C
E
Could
you
could
you
just
explain
a
little
more
about
the
what
the
materials
and
configuration
are,
especially
at
the
kind
of
either
side
on
the
South
elevation?
You
have
the
you
have
the
new
projecting
wing,
but
then
to
either
side
of
it
is
some
kind
of
a
glazed
wall.
Can
you
explain
better
what
what
that
system
is,
what
the
materials
are,
how
it.
K
We
are
pricing,
a
steel
frame
window
and
also
a
an
aluminum
frame
window
that
is
Western
Western
windows,
which
is
meant
to
look
like
this
steel
frame
window,
so
the
the
very
small
moly
on
Sun
on
that
window,
while
that's
the
stair,
the
new
stair
that
goes
from
the
basement
to
the
second
floor,
there's
no.
It's
just
attic
space.
There's
no
third
floor
in
this
house,
siding
on
the
entire
addition
to
match
the
front
and.
K
G
K
G
L
K
G
K
I
can
I
think
maybe
this
one
will
speak
to
it.
The
best
my
my
ideas
are.
The
addition
is
sort
of
a
hybrid
where
on
one
hand,
from
the
street
tying
in
with
the
existing
house
and
using
the
glass
tack
more
like
a
void,
then
a
solid.
You
know
it's
it's
more.
The
transition
and
I'm
trying
to
make
those
two
volumes
read
differently
like
this
is
the
addition-
and
this
is
the
original
house
and
the
glass
is
the
transition
between
the
two
and
would
like
it
to
be
read.
As
you
know,
just
avoid
not
there.
K
H
L
G
K
J
I
mean
I
think
I.
Take
my
biggest
concern
is
the
standard
7
under
the
construction?
Is
the
relationship
of
materials
and
texture
to
the
existing
structure?
I
think
that
that
what
you
were
talking
about
Eliot
with
the
glass
I,
think
that
that
is
something
that
is
introduced
into
the
the
structure,
but
wasn't
originally
there
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that
keeps
with
that
standard.
7
would
be
my
concern.
I.
F
Actually
was
when
I
looked
at
the
design,
just
I
thought
it
directly
expressed
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards
where
it
it
complements
and
pays
homage
to
the
front
volume
and
the
historic
volume
and
and
to
the
front,
is
very
in
keeping
complimentary
and
historic.
But
then
you
have
the
very
kind
of
void
that
says:
okay
from
the
in
the
back,
we're
complementing
the
historic
structure,
but
this
is
new
and
it
varies
and
city
to
city
and
preservation.
D
D
D
G
G
Is
that
correct,
but
but
then
it
becomes
the
the
way
openings
are
handled
and
it
does
get
to
you
know
proportion
of
openings
and
that
rhythm,
that's
completely
lost,
and
this
this
is
the
view
that
probably
gives
it
away
more
than
anything
else
that
we
no
longer
have.
You
know
whether
it's
the
you
know,
solids
within
the
voids
or
I'm
sorry
voids
within
solids
or
or
the
proportions
of
the
openings
and
and
then
even
the
kinds
of
openings
that
we
have
you.
Can
you
don't
have
to
duplicate
them
and
I?
G
Don't
think
you
have
to
replicate
them,
but
you
have
to
at
least
I,
don't
want
to
say
pay
homage
to
them,
but
at
least
respect
them
in
some
way
or
another,
and
this
seems
to
be
a
combination
of
sort
of
flat,
roofs
and
other
things
which
are
not
even
compatible
with
the
volumes
of
the
space.
I
think
the
additional
cross
volume
is
not
the
issue.
G
I
know
it
took
me
a
while
to
look
at
the
elevations
and
understand
why
Windows
changed
heights
when
you
look
from
the
street
and
it
had
to
do
with
where
you'd
set
the
floor
and
how
you'd
lower
the
floor,
as
you
went
to
the
back,
to
maintain
the
height
of
the
volume
but
I
think
it's
much
more.
This
view
from
the
back
that
says,
we're
not
gonna
worry
about
all
these
other
openings,
at
which
point
I
could
say.
G
Why
do
we
even
see
those
few
windows
still
using
the
same
openings
on
that
on
that
right
side?
Let's
call
it
at
the
south
end,
because
at
this
point
the
rear
end
of
the
house
is
no
longer
respecting
the
I.
Guess
I'll
call
it
the
east
side
of
the
house
at
all
and
I'm
not
convinced
that
that
glass
stair
tower
is
really
a
way
of
differentiating
between
front
and
back.
You
can
do
it
with
a
recess.
G
A
A
K
M
I'm
Jeff
Cohen,
one
of
the
owners,
I,
think
the
most
important
thing
that
Holly
said
you
know
in
wrestling
with
how
to
make
this
expansion.
You
know
tasteful
and
small
in
modern
in
some
ways,
but
still
reflective
of
what
this
you
know
very
very
old
house,
is
that
the
key
thing
for
us,
which
is
why
we
didn't
come
a
month
ago,
was
to
actually
create
that
void
between
the
two
spaces.
I
mean
that
was
very,
very
purposeful,
because
so
many
houses
I
think
we
see
around
Evanston
have
this
kind
of
two-story.
M
You
know
blow
out
the
back,
put
a
kitchen
and
a
family
room
on
the
back
and
just
kind
of
make
it
look
like.
It
was
always
like
that,
and
we
thought
that
that
was
it.
It
just
didn't
work,
especially
because
we
wanted
to
keep
the
I'm
not
an
architect,
but
to
keep
that
the
roofline
that's
coming
out
towards
us.
M
A
simpler
thing
to
do
would
have
been
a
chop
that
all
off
and
just
put
a
two-story
addition
on
the
back
and
make
it
you
know
kind
of
quote,
look
like
in
a
look
like
it
was
always
there.
So
the
void
that
we
tried
to
create
this
was
very,
very
purposeful,
because
the
main
view
from
the
front
of
the
house
is
almost
unchanged.
M
You'll
start
to
see
it
as
you
come
around
the
side
on
the
south
on
the
south
view,
but
that
whole
trans
I'm
coming
out
is
why
we
still
have
the
windows
kind
of
the
same,
mirroring
the
old
windows
in
the
front,
and
then
it
doesn't
really
turn
modern.
Until
you
can't
see
the
void
from
the
front
can't
see
it
from
the
Southside,
and
all
of
this
is
really
directly
into
the
back,
which
is
it's
funny.
It
looks
big
here
it's
actually.
This
is
a
pretty
small
volume.
M
So
it's
unapologetic,
you
know
it's
we're,
not
an
apology,
apologetic
about
it
being
modern,
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
do
something,
modern
and
still
keep
a
lot
of
what
was
old
without
kind
of
a
monster
like
mishmash.
You
know
Frankenstein
to
pretend
that
it
was
always
old.
The
other
thing
to
know
about
this
house,
which
I
think
you
know,
but
maybe
not,
is
that
it's
really
got
to
kind
of
unimpressive
additions
that
were
built
from
the
original
structure.
M
The
house
didn't
have
a
kitchen
that
weekend
what
so
that
was
one
addition
done
some
time
when
1900
or
so,
and
then
a
second
edition
done
to
put
on
it,
was
still
tiny
to
put
on
another
kitchen.
So
it's
the
nice
cottagey
thing
you
see
in
the
front
plus
to
kind
of
intermediary
what
I
would
say,
or
you
know
less
than
architecturally
pleasing
additions
to
try
to
get
the
original
volume,
and
this
is
this
is
a
way
to
kind
of
I.
Think
ameliorate,
that
so
anyway,
that
was
my
commentary.
J
I
was
gonna,
provide
some
clarification
from
my
perspective.
I
think
it
would
be
something
that
could
come
back
if
you
were
willing,
as
far
as
my
items
would
be
the
materials
and
the
proportions
specifically
relating
to
the
West.
Were
you
calling
it
the
mudroom?
What
was
that
back
room
that
kitchen
yeah?
J
It's
it's
not
only
it's
the
glass
projection,
I
think
also
I'd
like
to
know
more
of
the
glass
railings
and
how
that's
gonna
look
right
now.
It's
just
showing
an
Associated
volume,
I
just
think
the
materials
and
the
proportions
of
that
could
be
refined
so
that
they
reflect
a
little
bit
more
of
the
relationship
to
the
other
portion
of
your
addition,
which
I
think
is
very
very
sensitive
to
the
front
of
the
house.
I
think
the
front
of
the
house
with
your
new
proposed
addition,
looks
very
nice.
J
It's
very
relation,
I
see
how
you're
trying
to
relate
that
and
then,
when
you
get
around
to
the
rear
of
the
building,
you
have
a
little
bit
more
freedom,
which
is
totally
agreed.
I.
Just
think
you
still
need
to
carry
some
of
that
relationship
of
proportions.
Even
if
you
do
change
the
materials
it
has
to
there's
a
little
bit
of
your
you're
holding
on
you're,
not
going
so
far
to
go
contemporary
you're
still
holding
to
some
of
it,
but
I
don't
know
it
just
to
me
it
seems
like
it
needs
some
refinement
on
that
back.
A
N
Kim
Cohen
I'm,
one
of
the
other
owners
I
just
wanted
to
get
clarification
like.
So
are
you
saying
that
if
she
went
even
more
modern,
that
would
be
because
I
was
the
one
that
was
pushing
for
a
more
interesting
I
mean
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
all
you
guys
are
probably
all
architects
right.
No,
maybe.
J
I
think
so,
obviously,
in
the
construction,
there
is
one
of
the
standards
that
allows
you
to
do
something
that
is
still
sensitive
to.
What's
there,
the
standard
14
allows
you
to
do
a
contemporary
or
modern,
innovative
design
right
back,
I.
Think,
from
my
perspective,
what
I'm
seeing
right
now
is
you're
going
half
way
on
both
you're
kind
of
trying
to
insert
innovative
or
more
contemporary
elements
within
a
volume
that
is
similar
to
what
your
home
is.
J
N
J
A
The
the
approach
that
you,
both
you
and
your
husband
are
describing
is
fine.
Okay,
it's
it's
really
the
you
know
the
execution
of
it
so
as
not
to
completely
lose
the
relationship
with
the
rest
of
the
house.
I
mean
the
I
mean
you're.
Certainly
permitted
under
the
standards,
have
innovative
elements,
and
you
know
I
think
there's
some
really
good
ideas
that
I
think
everybody
really
likes
here.
I
think
and
again,
I
think
this
is
a
project
that
can
be
approved.
N
H
F
G
G
K
Yeah
I'm,
sorry,
the
the
plans
that
I
gave
you
this
has
all
been
built
in
a
3d
model
and
the
model
when
Carlos
asked
me
for
plans
yesterday
isn't
ready
to
present
so
I
had
to
go
back
and
update
just
the
AutoCAD
know:
schematics
so
they're.
You
know
it's
lacking
a
lot
of
the
detail
of
the
model,
but
you
come
in
off.
You
come
in
off
of
the
patio
and
into
the
living
room.
So
you'll
see
the
you
come
in
on
the
long
side
of
the
glass
volume.
G
K
Walk
into
the
long
face
and
you
would
enter
and
there's
a
closet,
then
in
between
the
breakfast
room
and
the
mudroom.
And
then
you
continue
into
the
house
into
in
between
the
kitchen
and
the
living
area.
There's
the
circulation
and
that
the
stair
to
the
basement
is
directly
across
in
the
stair
violently
across
the
room.
D
You
know
can
I
just
I
think
that
you
can
be
innovative
and
you
can
transform
things
and
I.
Just
think
this
is
to
the
degree
to
which
it
is
transformed
based
on
the
standards
that
makes
it
difficult.
So
it's
not
like
you
can't
have
I,
don't
think
you
couldn't
have
larger
openings
and
you
don't
you
know
and
it,
but
somehow
it
is
so
different
from
the
house,
and
so
many
you
know
it's
that
back
addition,
that
it
makes
it
difficult
when
you're
actually
reviewing
the
standards.
K
Into
this
before
me,
as
as
a
designer
I've
got,
how
do
you
it
when,
when
tasked
with
adding
a
contemporary
addition,
it's
the
you
know
the
eternal
question:
is
it
the
glass
box
on
the
traditional?
Is
that
the
IM
Pei
addition
to
the
Louvre,
you
know
or
is
it
you
know,
I
mean
it
it's
the
no
one
is
ever
I'm.
Never
gonna
get
seven
people
to
agree
on
that,
let
alone
maybe
three
to
agree
on
it.
So
I
think
it's
a
matter
of
you
know
a
matter
of
opinion.
K
D
I
E
It's
traditional
design
piece
and
what
is
the
innovative
piece
and
I
think
where
it
kind
of
gets,
lost
and
goes
arise
where
we
have
things
like
the
master
bedroom
volume
with
hesita
same
gable,
roof
in
the
same
gable
trim,
but
then
has
the
steel
sliding
doors.
So
it's
kind
of
a
in
one
mass
as
a
mishmash
of
both
traditional
and
innovative.
And
if
there's.
F
K
Sympathetic
a
step
further.
Imagine
because
these
conversations
we've
been
having
these
conversations
the
whole
time
we
talked
about,
knocking
off
the
back
volume
and
doing
a
completely
contemporary
volume
off
the
back.
How
do
you?
How
then
do
you
address
the
street?
So
then
it
became
well.
I
really
do
want
someone
to
drive
by
and
and
not
necessarily
see
this
glass
box
in
the
back.
So
that
was
one
issue
and.
K
Secondly,
again:
interpretation,
leaving
that
do
you
leave
that
original
two-story
volume
on
the
back
the
roof
in
this
design
is
added
on
or
do
you
take
it?
You
know
because
at
one
point
we
talked
about
just
knocking
off
that
roof
and
and
doing
the
you
know
it.
The
separate
volume
but
again
I
see
you.
G
K
G
Yet
I
think
Ken's
point
is
you've
tried
to
keep
some
of
the
elements
of
the
front,
but
you
haven't.
Quite
you
look
at
the
way
you
did.
The
windows.
You've
got
double
hung
windows.
Sometimes
some
look
like
they're
casements.
Well,
they
all
seem
to
be
with
mutton
in
the
front.
No
in
that
second
edition,
and
yet
you
don't
trim
them
out
the
same
way.
F
G
K
G
G
But
you're
you're
coming
out
further,
so
you
could
be
doing
similar
things
with
it
to
the
front
of
the
house.
Look
at
your
South
elevation.
I
mean
we're
not
seeing
the
chimney.
That's
behind
I
mean
I.
Think
there's
a
chimney
in
there
somewhere
for
the
living
room,
I'm,
not
clear
on.
What's
there
there
seems
to
be
a
fireplace
at
the
south
end.
Isn't
there.
G
F
The
header
are,
the
header
is
the
same.
It's
hard
to
tell
with
the
shadow
on
the
are
they
similar
in
the
back.
K
The
headers
on
the
back
volume
match
the
old
headers
of
the
windows
that
were
there,
but
I'm,
not
I,
need
to
check
I
think
they
might
be
a
little
lower
because
the
ceilings
aren't
the
whole
back
volume
is,
is
like
three
feet
lower,
so
the
the
ceiling
height
in
the
in
the
existing
master
suite
is
only
if
I
eat
something
at
the
you
know.
It's
where
you
have
the
wall
and
then
part
part
of
the
roof
and
then
and
then
the
ceiling
is
flattened.
G
K
H
G
H
G
H
A
If
you
do
have
questions
in
the
interim,
I
mean
you
know,
we
would
like
to
see
you
get
through
the
processing
get
approved
it's
you
know.
You
know,
you're,
welcome,
to
send
things
to
Carlos
that
there
may
or
may
not
be
I
mean
it
depends
on
what
the
questions
are.
Sometimes
it's
possible
to
give
some
kind
of
interim
feedback.
You
know.
Sometimes
you
just
have
to
use
your
judgment
about
how
to
not
necessarily
seven
people
but
try
to
make
it
respond,
as
you
can
to
the
some
of
the
ideas.
So
thank
you.
H
O
O
Yeah
north/south,
we
have
rich
Avenue
and
East
West
is
Greenwood
Street.
So
at
this
intersection,
which
is
not
a
signalized
intersection
on
the
west
side
of
the
street,
in
both
the
northwest
corner
and
the
southwest
corner,
there
currently
exists
stairs
to
both
cross
Greenwood
and
to
cross
Ridge.
That
is
not
a
DA
compliant.
There
have
been
some
issues
with
that,
so
we
are
seeking
to
change
that
to
a
proper
ad,
a
compliant
ramp,
but
that
requires
us
actually
to
adjust
the
slopes
of
the
sidewalk
adjacent
to
it.
O
As
you
go
west
of
Greenwood,
Street
there's
actually
a
pretty
substantial
slope
for
Evanston.
It's
not
San
Francisco,
but
it
is
one
of
our
steepest
slopes
in
town
and
it
turns
out-
and
so
we
to
do
that
we
are
actually
having
to
construct
retaining
walls
and
that's
where
you
see
the
very
dark
lines
in
the
northwest
and
the
Southwest
that
are
bordering
the
the
sidewalk.
Those
are
retaining
walls
that
will
be
constructed
to
match
the
existing
Indiana
limestone
that
we
have
the
on
the
retaining
wall.
O
So
this
is
the
southwest
corner.
You
can
see
the
stairs
and
the
Indiana
limestone
retaining
wall
as
it
is
existing.
This
is
the
northwest
corner.
The
slope,
is
you
go
back
on
the
northwest
corners
go
west
is
actually
much
steeper
than
the
slope
on
the
southwest
corner.
So
well,
we
have
to
do
some
relatively
short.
Retaining
walls
on
the
southwest,
the
the
one
that
is
more
challenging
is
West
we're
going
up
Greenwood
Street.
In
order
to
lower
that
sidewalk
and
install
the
the
appropriate
slopes,
we
will
need
to
remove
two
to
three
trees.
O
We've
been
in
contact
with
the
homeowners.
They
that
border
this
property,
those
trees
upon
review
by
our
arborist.
He
says
they're
healthy
enough,
but
they
won't
survive
this
kind
of
construction.
The
homeowner
actually
does
not
like
the
trees.
They
are
kind
of
scraggly.
Looking
the
way
they've
grown,
they
don't
really
leaf
out
and
beautiful
green
leaves,
and
they
are
really
they
grow
very
fast,
but
they're
really
only
about
eight
years
old.
So
we've
been
talking
with
the
homeowner
about
planting
three
additional
trees.
O
If
we
remove
three
trees
but
providing
a
different
species
that
would
work
better.
Perhaps
in
that
area,
one
of
the
things
that
was
requested
when
we
were
here
last
time
was
to
have
a
rendering
of
the
retaining
walls.
So
this
would
be
much
better
if
this
pointer
were
brighter.
The
top
one
is
as
you're
standing
on
Greenwood
Street.
Looking
at
the
north
side,
that
is
approximately
the
retaining
wall
that
we
would
have
to
build.
The
south.
O
O
One
of
the
the
second
concern
that
we
were
here
to
address
is
how
do
we
terminate
the
wall
where
it
comes
into
the
sidewalk?
We.
Actually
it's
not
entirely
consistent
as
you
go
along
Ridge
how
the
walls
terminate
at
each
intersection,
but
the
prevailing
or
dominant
way
that
the
wall
terminates
is.
There
is
a
slight
slope
down
to
the
sidewalk
and
then
there
is
a
hard
90
degree
angle
in
a
short
wall,
so
you
can
see
that
here
kind
of
slopes
down
to
the
sidewalk,
but
right
at
the
end,
there's
a
vertical
wall.
O
D
So
thanks
I
know
it's
I
have
no
I
personally
have
no
issue
with
the
way
this
looks.
I
have
a
question
which
I
think
was
raised.
The
last
meeting,
which
is
probably
not
it's
neither
here
nor
there,
but
the
safety
of
actually
crossing
the
street
once
it's
so
much
easier
to
get
to
the
street
is
really
there's.
No.
This
was
raised
before
there's
no
plans
for
a
crosswalk
or
anything
there.
So
I'm
just
really
curious.
D
O
It
is
a
legitimate
question,
and
so
and
this
this
is
a
subject
that
actually
we
have
debated
quite
a
bit
in
the
engineering
group
as
to
the
best
way
to
handle
this.
But
this
is
a
historic
district
and
as
much
as
we
love
as
engineers
go
around
changing
things
and
making
everything
perfectly
compliant
with
every
great
design
practice
evanston,
whether
it's
a
historic
district
or
not,
is
older
in
its
character
and
not
everything
is
easily
adapted
to
the
best
modern
practice.
O
In
this
particular
case,
the
issue
that
we
have
had
is
some
as
some
as
these
stairs
somebody
has
on
a
bicycle,
gone
off
the
stairs
in
the
Greenwood.
We've
also
had
situations
where
we
have
had
people
older
people
come
to
us
and
say
the
stairs
are
impossible
to
navigate
when
it's
snowy
or
icy,
and
we
really
need
a
railing
that
is
not
a
DEA
compliant.
So
the
city
has
a
legal
responsibility
to
make
it
a
DA
compliant.
O
But
if
we
start
expanding
the
scope
of
the
project,
we'd
have
to
be
doing
work
across
the
street
as
well,
because
there
are
ramps
that
are
88
compliant
that
enter
into
bridge.
On
the
opposite
side
of
the
street,
so
we'd
have
to
be
removing
and
modifying
sidewalk
on
the
opposite
side
of
street
and
in
fact,
Ridge
itself
is
not
a
perfect
street
design.
So
there
was
just
where
do
we
stop
on
this?
In
our
opinion,
it
actually
doesn't
make
the
intersection.
O
Oh,
it
doesn't
make
it
more
likely
that
people
are
going
to
end
up
in
the
street
because
we're
putting
in
88
ramps
it
makes
it
more
likely
that
they
can
navigate
it
safely
and
won't
accidentally
end
up
into
the
street,
because
they've
slipped
or
fallen
or
weren't
aware
there
were
stairs
and
did
something
drastic
in
an
uncontrolled
way.
So,
philosophically
we
decided
to
try
to
do
the
minimum
improvement
we
can,
which
actually
happens
to
be
a
fairly
big
improvement
for
the
intersection,
but
we
didn't
want
to
keep
expanding
the
scope.
Okay,.
G
O
P
P
O
P
P
We
took
some
feedback
from
the
homeowner
there
and
you'll
see
on
this.
This
elevations
change.
From
the
last
time
we
we
were
previously
meeting
all
the
standards
for
a
curb
ramp,
but
we
went
ahead
and
added
just
to
alleviate
the
the
long
distance
to
landings
every
30
feet
which
is
similar
to
what
they
would
ask
for
in
a
private
development
ramp
or
another
ramp.
Road
I
mean.
G
P
G
A
G
You
know
what
is
that:
how
does
it?
How
do
we
move
that
I'll
be
happy
to
do
it
about?
What
are
we
simply
we're
not
issuing
a
certificate?
So
are
we
simply
I
move
that
we
visor
approval
an
advisory
approval
for
the
project
at
Ridge
and
Greenwood,
for
a
DA
of
improvements
and
regardless
of
no
certificate
of
appropriateness?
There
are
still
the
applicable
standards
for
alterations,
one
through
10
one
through
six
for
demolition
and
one
through.
A
O
So
Garden
Park
is
a
park
that
is
located
in
the
southeast
corner
of
the
city
of
Evanston,
bordering
Sheridan
Square
and
just
north
of
South
Boulevard
Beach.
We
are
doing
a
project
where
we're
going.
Here's
the
diagram
of
Garden
Park
we're
doing
a
project
where
we're
going
to
do
a
sort
of
whole
park.
Rehabilitation.
O
O
O
We
have
had
three
public
meetings
with
the
neighbors
and
residents
and
I
have
also
presented
this
to
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Board
and
through
quite
a
lot
of
discussion
have
reached
something
that
people
are
generally
very
happy
about,
and
that
is
the
playground
equipment
here
is
moving
to
the
north.
This
is
actually
the
edge
along
Lake
Michigan.
This
is
the
new
playground
equipment.
It
was
located
more
along
here
and
what
we
are
doing
is
a
more
natural
style
playground.
So
it
is
a
series
of
mounds
that
are
built
up
with
a
rubberized
surface
material.
O
We
have
some
fallen
logs
here
along
here,
there's
also
some
tree
stumps
for
children
to
climb
on,
and
then
here
here
in
here
we
have
boulders
and
various
rocks
for
them
to
climb,
and
then
this
is
actually
being
raised
up
to
a
little
bit
higher
elevation,
just
a
few
feet
off
the
ground,
and
here
we
have
a
short
slide.
So
children
can
interact
in
a
more
natural
way
with
their
environment
through
some
very
intentional
nature
elements
they
can
navigate
up
the
hill
they
can
climb.
O
On
the
rocks
the
rocks,
we
want
them
to
climb
on
to
be
clear,
not
these
rocks
over
here
they
can
slide
down
the
slide,
and
so
this
was
something
that
was
specifically
vetted
and
requested
through
the
neighborhood.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
that
went
into
it
and
it
was
fairly
unanimous.
There
are
also
some
some
swings
that
are
located
here
and
here
the
colors
that
we're
talking.
Oh
here's
a
close-up.
Sorry,
so
here
you
can
see
Boulder
Boulder,
Boulder
slide.
This
pathway
has
like
a
gentle
slope
up.
O
Here's
just
some
pictures
of
elements.
Things
like
tree,
stumps
fallen
trees,
we're
actually
utilizing
at
evanston
tree,
but
not
from
this
site
that
will
be
milled
and
sort
of
treated
so
that
it
can.
Last
for
more
than
one
season,
the
colors
we're
looking
at
the
rubberized
surfacing
materials
sort
of
a
green
black
mix
of
flecks.
The
plastic
slide
is
a
beige
color.
We
haven't
got
the
exact
shades
finally
selected
yet,
but
that's
the
color
palette.
A
Q
I
got
a
notice
for
this,
but
most
of
the
neighbors
did
not
so
they're,
probably
not
here.
People
I
I'm,
not
sure
why
the
addresses
listed
is
there
that
would
be
like
the
beach
address,
so
people
who
are
adjacent
to
it
or
right
across
the
street.
Do
you
notice
we.
C
C
Q
C
C
O
O
Q
Yeah
I
just
I
guess
the
first
thing
is
I
I,
don't
know
if
I
can
I'm
the
only
one
here
from
the
neighborhood.
There
were
a
lot
of
people
at
these
meetings
and
and
they're
very
interested,
and
it's
not
really
clear
what
you
know.
If
I
don't
think
I
can
represent
what
everybody
else
was
gonna
say:
I
would
say:
maybe
you
know,
delay
it
and
try
and
get
a
better
Norfolk
ation
out
I.
A
Issues
at
stake
care
about
what
kind
of
equipment
replaces
that
are
not
really
preservation
issues
in
any
material
way,
so
I
mean
our
role.
The
processes
is
immaterial.
I
mean
this.
It
really
isn't
the
right
forum
to
decide
what
kind
of
playground
equipment
should
go
there.
So
what
exactly?
Are
you
deciding?
I
mean
they're
really
coming
before
us
to
ask
for
a
recommendation
whether
this
would
in
any
way
violate
the
Historic,
Preservation,
ordinance
and
I.
A
Think
at
least
my
opinion
is
virtually
nothing
to
do
with
the
ordinance,
and
so
our
advice
will
just
be
that
we
don't
have
any
objection
to
this.
It's
not
that
we're
the
decision-maker
in
terms
of
what
kind
of
the
forums
you
already
went
to
or
the
place
at
which
those
issues
were
discussed.
Not
this
meeting
right.
G
Me
try
I
mean
part
of
it.
Is
this
happens
to
fall
within
the
historic
district,
which
is
why
it's
here
to
begin
with,
but
the
criteria
that
we're
even
recommending
has
to
do
with
alteration
and
you're
gonna
say
what
are
we
altering
because
we're
not
altering
a
building
and
anything
else
and
I'm?
Looking
at
the
standards,
even
though
you
wrote
1
through
10,
it's
really
things
like
that.
G
A
reasonable
efforts
been
made
to
adopt,
let's
call
this
project
and
to
have
minimal
alteration
to
the
character
of
the
environment,
that
none
of
the
distinguishing
characteristics
of
the
property
have
been
really
are
being
altered
and
are
being
recognized.
So
you
can
look
at
it
and
say:
is
this
construction
of
the
mound
and
so
on
and
so
forth
disturbing
to
the
environment?
G
Q
It's
really
very
minimally,
I've
been
I'm,
not
here
but
I.
You
know
I've
done
this
like
in
Santa,
Fe
and
stuff,
where
it's
very,
very
strong
guidelines
for
that
as
well,
but
yeah
I
guess.
The
only
thing
would
be
the
grading
that
the
lookout
hill
is
the
only
grading
difference
but
yeah,
okay,
I
guess,
that's
all
I
understand.
Thank
you.
Don't.
C
Chair
just
want
to
I
had
a
phone
call
this
afternoon
of
a
resident
in
the
neighborhood
who
just
want
to
know
what
the
project
was
all
about.
I
explained
to
her
I
directed
her
to
the
website,
and
she
just
said
that
what
that
means
I,
don't
he
need
to
attend
the
meeting
as
it's
up
to
you,
it's
open,
so
that
was
the
only
call
I
got
or
email
about
this
project.
A
S
Good
evening
the
chair
and
the
Commission
and
city
staff,
I'm
peachy
and
Greco,
my
wife,
Laura
Tucker
and
I,
bought
this
house
in
2007.
The
previous
owners
had
done
really
meticulous
job
of
restoring
the
house
back
to
the
1891
when
it
was
constructed.
The
big
change
that
they
made
was
in
the
rear,
where
there
was
a
underground
garage,
the
underground
garage
was
filled
and
a
porch
was
built
and
about
15
years
ago
they
added
a
three-car
garage.
So
the
garage
is
fairly
new
compared
to
the
rest
of
you
know
the
buildings
on
the
property.
S
As
you
can
see,
the
solar
panels
only
face
the
ally,
they're
not
visible
from
the
street
they're,
not
visible
from
the
house,
and
in
fact
the
front
of
the
garage
has
a
little
cupola
and
you'll
see
that
big
oak
tree.
There
would
make
it
not
very
feasible
to
have
solar
there
anyway,
you
and
you,
and
really
it
wouldn't
be
you'd-
only
be
able
to
fit
a
panel
or
two.
So
there's
nothing
on
the
front,
both
from
an
aesthetic
point
of
view
and
a
preservation
point
of
view
and
a
practical
point
of
view.
S
The
only
place
that
there
would
be
solar
panels
is
on
the
back.
It's
as
you
can
see
a
fairly
new
structure
in
the
last
15
years
and
I.
Don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
technical
background
on
this,
for
mr.
Rees
came
out
the
other
day
and
did
inspect,
and
the
city's
been
really
helpful
in
term
of
in
the
process
along
so
I
I.
Don't
have
a
whole
lot
more
to
add
on
that
other
than
that
I'll
answer
any
questions
that
I
can.
S
G
G
J
Have
a
question
on
the
reflectivity
of
the
panel
itself:
you
have
the
two-story
building,
that's
on
the
other
side
of
the
alley,
mm-hmm
and
the
windows
that
are
right
there,
but
what
is
I
mean?
How
is,
is
there
a
reflection
that
is
gonna
be
significant
off
of
these
when
the
Sun
hits
them.
S
J
J
S
E
H
H
T
T
Are
working
on
a
porch
on
a
house
on
40/29
Lee
Street
that
was
built
in
the
late
1800s
in
the
1890s?
It
was
moved
for
the
construction
of
Lincoln
school
and
in
the
course
of
the
moving
of
a
house,
the
front
porch
was
lost
removed
from
the
house.
We
have
no
images
of
the
original
house
with
its
front
entry,
but,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
the
front
of
the
house.
The
organization
of
the
house
suggests
that
this
is
the
actual
front
of
the
house,
and
yet
it
has
no
entry
other
than
a
mudroom.
T
T
The
problem
the
front
stairs,
which
are
concrete
with
a
steel
railing,
are
deteriorating
severely.
There
are
no
longer,
you
can't
walk
them
at
all.
The
their
mail
gets
delivered
to
the
curb,
so
the
owners
are
hoping
to
replace
with
a
porch
with
an
overhang
that
suggests
an
entry
and
protects
the
door
which
is
deteriorating
because
it
has
another
function,
and
in
this
we
would
like
to
take
cues
from
the
existing
house.
T
So
on
the
back
side
of
the
house
sort
of
looking
for
information,
there
are
these
kind
of
exaggerated
brackets
that
hold
up
a
deep
shed
overhang,
a
four-foot,
deep,
shed
overhang
on
the
back
of
the
house
that
is
framed
by
bound
by
parapet
walls
on
either
side.
So
our
solution
is
really
just
a
continuation
of
this
existing
language
of
the
house.
We're
proposing
to
remove
the
front
or
South
parapet
wall
from
what
is
this
volume
that
goes
up
to
the
belt
course.
T
A
G
I
recommend
that
we
issue
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
4:29
least
read
for
the
removal
of
the
concrete
Steve
stoop
at
the
front.
Facade
that's
crumbling
anyway,
so
I'm
not
sure
we
have
to
remove
it
and
construct
a
new
front
entry
and
porch
to
match
the
existing
rear,
porch
and
match
other
details
of
the
building
using
materials
that
match
the
existing
siding,
etc.
Applicable
standards
are
the
only
alteration
in
this
case
Carlos,
or
would
there
be
new
construction
as
well
I.
U
Hi
there
:
McLain
I'm
the
owner
at
two
401
Lawndale
Avenue
and,
let's
see,
did
I
excellent.
We
hit
a
button
there,
we
go,
I
bought
the
house
in
2008
and
we
bought
the
house
from
you
know
the
previous
owners,
because
they
had
been
really
meticulous
in
maintaining
the
property
and
I
think
they
actually
sought.
The
historic,
designation
and
the
house
was
really
well
preserved.
U
We
we
added
a
master
bedroom
in
2010
and
we're
here
with
the
in
front
of
you
all
and
at
that
point
and
and
we
tried
to
really
keep
the
the
aesthetic
of
the
house
and
going
through
that
process.
A
request
today
is
just
to
replace
a
south-facing
window
and
an
east-facing
window
on
what
was
originally
a
screened
porch,
and
you
can
see
it
here.
So
this
is
the
south-facing
window
and
the
original
plans.
You
know
it
was
a
screened
porch
and
this
is
the
east-facing
window
and
they
were
in
sometime
in
the
1950s
I
think.
U
U
The
transom
at
the
top
on
both
windows
are,
they
are
fixed
single
pane
windows
and
we
are
seeking
to
remove
the
windows
both
on
the
south
and
on
the
east
side
and
replace
them
with
thermopane
marvin
wooden
windows.
That
would
keep
the
transom
at
the
st.
at
the
in
the
same
place
at
the
top.
Keep
that
line
that
runs
across
beneath
the
transom
in
the
same
place
across
both
sides
of
the
windows,
and
then
the
windows
would
actually
be
casement
style
windows.
U
That
would
be
more
reminiscent
of
what
you
see
in
both
in
the
turret
on
either
side
of
the
leaded
glass
in
the
middle
there
and
the
bay
window
up
at
the
up
at
the
top.
So
we'd
like
to
put
something
there.
That
is
these,
this
just
a
close-up
of
the
windows,
and
so
you
can
see
here
the
design
that
we
would
like
to
implement.
This
being
the
South
window
and
this
being
the
East
window.
A
L
U
Ones
they
actually
have
a
mixture,
so
in
the
window
and
the
bay
window
they
are
actually
marvin
clad
windows
on.
H
D
U
U
H
D
I
have
one
I'm,
sorry,
everyone
more
question.
So
when
you
go
to
the
casements
which
look
good
but
they're
not
divided,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
because
you
are
the
other
windows
on
the
house
as
casements
are
divided
so
I'm
just
except
for
the
stain
the
weather,
those
are
not
saying
glass
but
except
for
the
adjacent
windows,
so
y-yeah
the
leaded
windows,
yeah.
L
U
U
Oh,
the
casements
in
the
turret:
yes,
they
are,
they
are
there.
They
are
divided.
I,
think
that
our
concern
was
just
the
you
know,
taking
up
too
much
of
the
glass
surface
with
a
wood,
you
know
pain,
to
divide
the
light
and
also
kind
of
thinking
that
the
you
know
they're
side
by
side.
These
two
windows
in
particular
on
the
front
and
the
leaded
glass,
does
not
have
that
kind
of
understand.
L
G
U
G
U
The
the
arch,
the
casements
on
both
the
the
south
and
the
east
that,
where
it
divides
the
transom
from
the
case
encasement
that'll,
be
just
like
it
is
today,
they'll
be
the
same,
and
the
wind
that
the
casement
windows
will
be
the
height
will
be
the
same.
I
think
the
width
of
them.
You
have
to
look
at
the
just.
J
H
A
A
A
M
V
V
Wanted
to
provide
just
a
little
bit
of
background
on
the
property.
I
thought
it
was
pretty
interesting.
This
piece
of
property
was
originally
a
teen.
57
was
actually
moved
in
the
late
19th
century,
a
few
blocks
south
to
its
to
its
current
plot
at
1206
and
then
in
the
earliest
earliest
20th
century.
It
got
in
addition,
so
you
can
see
the
original
home
in
the
top
picture.
V
The
the
levels
of
the
first
and
second
floor
weren't
actually
kept
at
the
same
height,
and
so
there
was
actually
they
made
use
of
the
attic
space
in
the
rear
part
of
the
home,
but
the,
but
the
roofline
was
kept
the
same
so
just
wanted
to
provide
that
context.
Additionally,
you
can
see
here
in
this
picture
that
the
the
the
porch
that
is
now
closed
in
was
once
once
an
exterior
porch.
V
You'll
see
kind
of
a
before
and
after
picture,
and
with
with
the
with
the
proposed
or
the
after.
The
proposed
there's
references
to
the
the
lines
specifically
in
the
Marvin
window,
call-out
that
we'll
be
putting
in
that
elevation
and
then
the
red
indicates
if
there's
been
a
movement
in
location.
So,
for
example,
in
in
this
elevation.
This
is
the
East
elevation.
You'll
see
that
the
the
the
window
to
the
furthest,
south
or
left
of
that
image
has
been
moved
and
the
the
purpose
of
this
is
to
be
symmetric
about
its
center.
V
V
This
is
the
the
West
elevation
or
the
rear
of
the
home,
as
you
can
see.
Firstly,
there's
a
door
that
that
were
proposing
to
replace
with
half
simulated
light,
fiberglass
door
on
the
rear
of
the
home.
Additionally,
there's
a
third
well,
it
was
a
third
floor
window
and-
and
now
just
basically
gives
light
to
the
attic
and
we're
proposing
to
remove
that
and
and
and
I
should
just
say,
any
removing
or
movements
of
windows
will
be
patched
with
with
stucco
in
kind.
V
So
this
this
is
a
good
example
of
kind
of
what
I
was
being
too.
This
is
the
South
elevation,
and
so,
as
you
can
see
here,
in
kind
of
that
middle
photo,
the
the
windows
at
the
rear
of
the
home
drop
and,
and
so
the
proposal
here
and
where
the
red
is,
is
basically
just
taking
them
that
there's
no
movement,
I
should
say
to
the
east
or
the
west.
It's
it's
simply
taking
those
windows
in
place
and
moving
them
up
the
elevation
to
be
level
across.
V
And
then
similar
for
the
for
the
North
elevation
and
I'm.
Sorry
I
had
to
split
this
over
two
pages,
but
here
you
can
see
the
firstly
that
there's
two
windows
at
the
top.
That
would
also
get
moved
higher
and
then
we're
proposing
here
to
expand
the
the
window
to
the
furthest
to
the
right
as
part
of
a
basically
services,
a
pantry,
sorry,
a
dining
nook.
V
I
should
say
a
lot
of
the
a
lot
of
the
windows
on
the
second
floor
were
double
hung
and
in
terms
of
this
style
you
can
see
most
of
them
do
not
have
any
grills
or
or
anything
of
this
sort
like
I
was
saying
that
that
front
door
does
have
some
grill
patterns
to
it.
There
are
three
windows
in
this
sin.
Stand
in
this
elevation.
There's
two
in
this
elevation
than
one
in
the
in
the
rear
of
the
home
that
actually
do
have
a
grid
pattern.
V
It's
tough
to
say,
I'm,
not
sure
that
they
don't
seem
to
be
the
original,
given
that,
as
you
can
see
in
the
the
the
the
earliest
photo,
the
first
photo
that
there
is.
You
know
you
know
a
grid
pattern
represented
within
those
those
windows,
but
I
I'm
not
familiar
with
with
what
age
they
are
they're
wooden
windows.
They
are
wooden,
they're,
they're,
quite
fragile,
there's
a
lot
of
them,
then
some
of
the
reason
for
the
fragility
is
a
lot
of
them.
A
V
V
Do
have
I
documented
all
the
whole
out
of
this
project.
This
has
honestly
been
quite
fun
for
us,
so
I
have
tons
of
photos
I
just
you
know,
I
I,
don't
know
how
much
to
provide-
and
you
know
this
this
seems
to
be
a
fair
amount
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
currently
exists,
and
you
know
what
we
want
to
do
with
it.
V
V
J
C
V
V
On
the
on
the
west,
the
8-foot
fence-
again,
some
of
that's
it,
like
you
said,
does
exist-
is
falling
over.
There
is
some
on
the
south,
but
it
would
get
extended
further
down
to
me
where
my
neighbor's
fence
comes
in
and
then
on
the
you
know,
it's
the
north
east
side.
Basically,
there
would
be
a
4-foot
fence,
that's
about
half
way
back
on
the
property,
and
that
would
be
new
as
well.
E
I,
let
me
I
can
start
it
off.
I
guess,
I!
Think
in
thinking
about
this.
One
I
think
the
it's
really
key
to
look
at
how
the
house
evolved
historically,
so
it
did
start
as
a
Greek
Revival
house.
But
as
the
survey
notes,
it
was
basically
transformed
in
1910
by
this
almost
prairie
Scott
style,
wraparound
porch,
and
presumably
they
replaced
all
the
windows
at
that
point
with
these
single
one
over
one
windows,
if
not
before
and
I
I,
think
it's.
E
I
think
that
transformation
that
happened
historically,
in
which
the
survey
describes
as
a
historic
alteration
in
which
I
agree
is
kind
of
significant
in
its
own
right
as
a
design.
Intervention
I
think
that
has
certain
implications
and
I
think
it
means
that
you
probably
shouldn't
necessarily
think
that
you're
going
back
to
the
Greek,
Revival
style
I
think
you
have
to
embrace
the
kind
of
hybrid
you
have,
and
so
because
of
that,
I
would
not
put
in
divided
mutton
grilles
and
the
new
windows
I
would
stick.
I
would
match
what
exists
with
the
one
over
one.
E
E
A
Mean
just
for
clarity,
the
the
ordinance
does.
It's
really
standard
for
for
alteration
does
state
that
changes
have
taken
place
over
time.
I
really
considered
part
of
the
historic
structure
and
we
have
fairly
often
had
people
come
in
I
mean
doing
much
more.
You
know
violence
the
house
than
you
are,
whose
theory
was
that
patient?
You
know
remove
massive.
You
know.
Sometimes
architectural
II
significant
features
because
they
weren't
part
of
the
original
house.
So
III
don't
know
that
I
yes,
I
mean
the
particular
alterations.
You're
doing
are
not
major
alterations
and
I.
V
Just
if
I
could
comment
and
in
terms
of
the
the
Greek
Revival
style,
III
struggled
with
this,
the
thing
I
struggled
with
the
most
was
actually
the
placement
of
the
window.
To
be
honest
with
you,
because
I
think
you're
pointed
in
its
own
right,
you
know
it
does
tell
the
story
of
the
home
and
I
I
struggled
balancing
that
with
the
design
of
the
you
know.
What
I
think
is
a
Greek,
Revival
style
and
I
understand
the
point
that
you
know.
Perhaps
you
shouldn't
think
of
going
back
to
that
style.
V
What
has
led
me
to
that
was
not
only
this
initial
photo,
but
in
doing
the
interior
renovation,
you
can
actually
see
the
old
wood
siding,
that's
basically
been
it
hasn't
been
removed.
It's
basically
been
laid
over
and
and
for
me
that
again
I'm
not
proposing
that
here
today,
but
it
left
this
idea
of
okay.
V
J
D
D
H
G
G
I
think
the
point
is
it:
it
wasn't
and-
and
you
know,
you're
you're
trying
to
replicate
something-
that's
not
really
happening
on
the
first
floor
anyway,
you're
not
lining
it
up
with
the
door,
that's
suddenly
symmetrical
and
all
the
rest
and
I
don't
see
why
just
moving
it
I
mean
I
was
having
a
real
problem
when
I
was
looking
at
the
thing
before
you
presented
it
this
afternoon
and
looking
at
your
drawings
and
trying
to
figure
out
what
does
the
red
really
mean?
Why
is
he
moving
this
and
I
kept
thinking?
G
V
In
terms
of
the
again
I,
I
truly
did
struggle
with
the
the
one
in
window
I'm
in
the
front
elevation
in
terms
of
moving
it
over.
It
was
really
about
the
this
symmetry
as
I.
Think
I've
talked
to
the.
The
doorway
is
all
the
way
over
to
the
right-hand
side
now.
So
it's
it's
sort
of
out
of
the
out
of
the
main
frame
of
the
house
and
then
and
then
to
the
other
point
about
the
moving
the
other
windows.
J
Moved
to
issue
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
1206,
Hinman
Avenue
for
the
replacement
of
the
kitchen
windows
and
large
when
a
dining
window,
placement
of
the
pantry
window,
replacement
of
seventeen
windows
and
removal
for
smaller
windows
and
adding
a
picture
window
and
then
the
window
openings,
creating
created
for
moving
windows
will
be
patched
to
match.
Stucco
and
brick
mold
replace
the
door
on
the
rear
west
elevation
and
install
an
eight-foot
fence
on
the
West
six-foot
fence
on
the
south
side
yard
and
six-foot
fence
on
the
interior
in
North.
Carroll
standards
include
alteration
one
through
ten.
A
A
C
G
A
I
think
we
could
approve
the
minutes
of
due
to
the
the
typos
and
so
forth.
Would
anybody
like
to
make
a
motion
I
think
we
need
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
of
the
Eliot.
H
A
Guess
in
the
staff
reports
on
that,
we
had
approved
the
a
statement
to
the
City
Council's
to
the
Heritage
Tree
ordinance
last
time
in
circulated.
I,
don't
know
if
there
was
anything
else
to
do,
maybe
just
make
sure
nobody
I
think
we'd
already
approved
it.
Do
we
just
need
to
confirm
nobody
objected
to
the
exact
word
well.
C
The
way
if
I
can
go
back
to
the
last
meeting,
the
it
was
discussion,
so
you
agree
that
you
will
write
something
for
the
Commission,
but
you
didn't
really
approved
anything
because
you
were
not
supposed
to
prove
anything.
It
was
only
a
discussion
so
now
you
have
received
what
mark
our
chair
has
written
and
I
got
only
one
response,
so
comment
that
was
from
Jamie
and
I
haven't
heard
anything
else.
So
now
it's
time
to
I,
guess
formalize,
your
maybe
Scott.
Do
you
have
any
something
to
write
about
sure.
A
V
Described
last
time,
the
Commission
is
not
really
being
asked
to
make
a
recommendation
on
it
just
to
give
your
thoughts,
so
those
are
encapsulated
and
what
we
have.
This
will
go
on
to
the
planning.
Development
Committee
of
the
City
Council
will
be
discussed
further
as
far
as
tree
preservation
and
potential
for
new
ordinance
or
changes
existing
ordinance
tentatively,
that's
scheduled
for
August
12th
will
include
this
without
those
materials.
Okay,.
G
In
the
text
of
that
statement
that
we
approved
it's
in
that
second
paragraph
mark
because
it
says
that
conflicts
occur
between
owners
who
wish
to
construct
additions,
etc
and
citizens
who
object
to
the
impact
on
trees,
on
the
applicants,
property
but
I
think
often
it's
also
the
impact
of
either
removing
or
the
trees
on
the
neighbor's
properties.
I
think
we've
gotten
more
objections
from
that
side
than
it
is
know.
What
are
they
going
to
do
with
their
tree
and
I'm
wondering
whether
we
should
clarify
that
it's
in
the
middle
of
that
second
paragraph.
C
G
Well,
the
complaints
are
sometimes
they're.
Gonna
cut
down
the
tree,
so
you
know,
whereas
the
person
proposing
to
cut
down
the
tree
is
not
going
to
come
in
and
say,
I'm
cutting
down
the
tree,
I
hope
I'm
not
going
to
cut
down
the
tree.
So
the
complaints
have
been
lodged
from
neighbors
towards
the
proposed
project,
and
this
reads
as
if
its
citizens
impact
you
know
and
I'm,
not
sure
the
word
is
on
trees
and
it
says
on
trees
on
the
applicants,
property.
So
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
you
meant
by
that
said.
I.
A
A
G
A
A
A
H
A
A
W
Very
quick,
my
name
is
Leslie
shad
I'm
already
on
your
list.
I
live
at
11:10,
Judson,
Avenue
and
I'm.
A
lead,
co-lead
natural
habitat
Evanston
I
just
want
to
say
that
central
to
the
historic
preservation
ordinance
is
fostering
civic
pride
and
the
beauty
and
noble
accomplishments
of
the
past,
safeguarding
historic
and
cultural
heritage,
preventing
urban
blight,
fostering
the
welfare
of
the
people
of
Evanston.
Imagine
a
historic
district.
W
Without
old
trees,
it
would
be
a
huge
loss,
but
even
worse,
imagine
a
climate
changed
world
where
we
lose
the
tree:
benefits
of
cooling,
our
homes
and
streets,
filtering
our
air
and
water
and
quieting
noise.
That's
why
the
climate
action
plan?
The
city
cares
about
trees
and
junit
alone.
I'm
gonna
summarize
this,
but
basically
I
got
five.
You
know
five
big
oaks
and
elements
were
coming
down
only
in
June,
not
including
the
2
from
2390
oaring
ttan.
W
In
addition,
therefore,
other
tree's
age
70
to
90
year
olds,
that
years
old,
only
in
June
that
all
of
these
trees-
that
are,
you
know,
slated
to
come
so
I'm,
just
letting
you
know,
oh
and
why
it's
for
multifamily,
rentals,
expanding
a
garage
office
and
splitting
a
house
into
two
townhouses.
Some
of
these
were
before
you
all,
so
this
trees
we're
losing
big
trees
now
I'm,
just
letting
you
know,
we
are
losing
big
trees
now
and
they
are
an
important
part
of
our
history.
W
A
certificate
of
appropriateness
says
that
it
doesn't
have
to
cover
everything,
but
the
route
and
the
rules
specifically
refer
to
landscape
and
trees.
Our
landscaping,
the
rules
say
when
no
CoA
is
needed.
It
says
if
the
appearance
of
grounds
is
check,
the
grounds
has
changed.
Then
the
certificate
is
required.
It
talks
about
the
rhythm
and
spacing
structure
on
the
streets.
It
considers
whether
the
proposal
is
compatible
with
the
place
to
which
is
visually
related.
Someone
of
the
COA
looks
at
the
aesthetic
integrity
of
the
landmark
and
character
of
local
historical
districts.
W
The
construction
standards
of
review
talk
about
walls
of
continuity.
There.
It
says
it
addresses
site
structures,
comma,
such
as
land
masses,
land
masses
actually
included
in
site
structures.
Okay,
changes
in
the
footprint
also
requires
submitting
a
landscaping
plan.
In
addition,
the
rules
say
major
work
includes
significant
significant
changes
in
landscaping
features
and
which
removing
a
big
tree
would
be
a
significant
change
in
landscaping
features
other
landscaping,
work
reviewed
by
staff
come
back
to
the
Commission
if
their
substantial
I
appreciate
your
letter
to
planning
and
development.
However,
our
history
includes
the
oldest
things
in
Evanston.
W
It's
your
mandate
to
preserve
the
character
and
culture
of
Evanston.
The
historic
preservation
ordinance
should
be
modified
to
explicitly
adjust
trees
and
historic
landscaping.
They're
irreplaceable
and
yours
is
the
only
historic
lens.
Reviewing
the
overall
character
of
our
historic
districts.
I
recognize.
You
may
feel
that
you
lack
this,
have
expertise.
Evanston.
Has
it
the
staff,
forestry
and
environmental
services?
Have
this
expertise?
In
addition?
So
does
the
community?
You
could
add
somebody
to
the
Commission.
There
are
Forestry
Service,
US
Forestry
Service
people
in
the
in
this
community,
as
well
as
lots
of
tree
keepers
and
others.
W
A
tree
is
a
landscaping.
Mass
trees
were
either
planted
or
preserved
into
Evanston's
landscape
design.
We're
talking
about
the
living
history
of
Evanston,
an
individual
tree
may
be
the
oldest
thing
in
Evanston,
or
one
of
the
oldest
the
trees
from
2030
2390
Orange
end
date
from
George
Washington,
James
Monroe,
older
than
all
the
other
stuff
you're.
Talking
about
the
idea
that
the
historic
Commission
approval
would
take
out
the
oldest
things
in
Evanston
for
a
new
construction
or
addition
is
just
extremely
problematic.
That's
my
comment.
Thank.
A
You
I
mean
just
to
be
clear:
the
Evanston
has
a
tree
ordinance
which
the
City
Council
passed
the
City
Council
or
decided
that
lots
of
under
two
acres
are
not
subject
to
the
tree
ordinance.
We
in
our
recommendation
we've
asked
what
our
recommendation
is
that
the
City
Council
reassessed
that
and
that
there
be
public
comment
and
discussion
on
that,
because
we
realize
that
it's
not
that
protective,
and
we
agree
with
that.
But
again
it.
H
A
E
A
Okay,
sell
their
panels.
It's
been
brought
to
our
attention
that
all
solar
panel
projects
would
require
Commission
approval
that
there's
no
ability
to
staff
to
approve
it:
administrative
Lea,
I,
guess
the
the
simplest
approach
is
the
one
that's
really
written
down
here
is
that
we
could
simply
have
that
solar
panels
in
other
green
roofs
technologies
could
either
be.
You
know
we
checked
by
basically
both
boxes
on
the
chart,
so
we
both
major
Work
Commission
or
line
of
work
staff
or
guess
that's
repetitive,
I
guess.
The
the
question
then,
would
be
what
we
did.
C
C
My
approach
to
it
is
that
if
I
find
a
project
that,
in
my
mind,
the
experience
is
not
quite
meeting
the
standards,
so
I
don't
feel
hundred
percent
comfortable
with
the
provenance
administrator,
then
I
would
consult
with
the
Commission
chair
and
a
structure
whether
or
not
the
project
should
go
to
the
Commission
or
not,
and
that's
why
potentially
a
project
like
the
one
today
1721
Hinman
were
the
solar
panels
were
not
visible
at
all
from
the
street
only
from
the
alley
they
were
not
affecting
them.
The
house
itself
could
be
one
of
those
cases.
C
I
have
met
with
another
citizens
who
would
like
to
put
some
solar
panels
on
their
home,
and
one
of
the
questions
I
received
from
them
is
whether
the
Commission
or
step
could
approve
solar
panels
on
the
side
elevations.
If
the
site
of
the
solar
panels
are
on
the
half
of
the
roof
line,
that
is
away
from
the
street,
there
was
a
project
that
the
Commission
approved
recently
on
Keaney
were
actually
the
panel's,
go
all
the
way
to
the
front
on
the
side
of
the
street.
D
You
know
I
I'm,
just
not
sure,
since
its
kind
of
relatively
new
we're
we're
looking
at
them
and
how
we're
evaluating
them,
I
just
would
wanna.
If
we
put
that
X
in
that
other
box,
just
make
sure
that
you
know
you
might
be
more
conservative
about
the
approach
of
just
pushing
something
through
because
it's
on
the
back
of
the
house
or
something
just
I,
don't
know
how
to
you
know,
I
think.
That's
probably
why
we
just
said
the
Commission
should
review
it
because
of
that
reason,
but
I
so
I,
don't.
H
G
It's
one
thing
to
say:
solar
panels
and
suddenly
we're
talking
and
let's
ignore
green
roofs
momentarily,
but
once
you
start
getting
into
wind
power
generators
and
we're
starting
to
really
put
objects
out
there
and
it's
no
longer
what
we've
been
reasonably
good
about
panels
that
pretty
much
hug
the
surface
and
the
issue
was
always
do
they
look
like
the
shingles.
How
do
they
fit
within?
Can
you
remove
them
and
what
happens
to
the
shingles
and
now
we're
actually
putting
struck?
G
Now,
once
you
start
talking
about
wind
generators
and,
and
whatever
else
now,
you're
really
putting
an
object,
there
I
mean
I'll,
call
it
sculpture
and
a
generous
manner.
But
you
know
what
is
it
it's
no
longer
something
that's
innocuous
and
and
somewhat
not
visible
like
like
today's
I
mean
he
was
talking
about
it
as
if
it's
in
the
alley,
you
don't
see
it
and-
and
you
asked
the
question
about
what
about
across
the
alley.
But
it
also
is
that
the
alley
is
the
public
way,
whether
we
like
it
or
not.
Well,.
C
G
C
Far
I
understand
that,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
that
there
are
certain
standards
out
there
by
the
National
Park
Service
that
I
can
maintain
look
at
and
if
I
don't
feel
comfortable
or
whoever
might
be
doing
this
in
the
future,
you
know
be
able
to
refer
that
to
the
Commission
I.
Don't
think
the
intent
is
that
anything
goes
with
administrative
approval,
I
think.
H
G
L
G
F
D
F
C
G
Panels
right,
my
problem
with
54
is
lumping
all
those
things
into.
One
I
could
see
solar
panels.
I
can
deal
with
the
green
roofs
because
in
most
cases
that's
an
implication
that
it's
probably
a
flat
roof.
There
may
or
may
not
be
some
kind
of
a
parapet
around
that
nobody's
going
to
see
the
quote
green
roof
unless
they
plan
something
who
knows
what
and
that
may
not
be
objectionable
either,
but
I
think
once
we
get
into
you
know
what
kind.
G
E
D
Well,
well,
it
just
means
that
if
it's
a
winter
well
I,
don't
you
know
I
think
some
of
the
problems
is
that
this
is
still
rather
new
for
us
making
decisions
and
so
I
think
Carlos.
What
you
hear
is
like
we're,
maybe
not
all,
but
maybe
some
of
us
are
nervous
about
what
certain
things
imply
down
the
road.
Maybe
so
I
don't
know,
but
if
could
we
separate
that
so
we
don't
have?
We
can
just
separate
the
solar
panels.
You.
C
C
E
G
J
A
C
G
C
That
instance,
he
was
changing
the
size
of
the
windows,
but
maintaining
the
material
and
style
plus
there
were
on
the
rear
on
the
side
away
from
the
street.
So
in
my
mind
that
was
kind
of
between
the
two,
but
still
I
thought
it
would
be
appropriate
to
ask
the
Commission
chair
if
that
would
be
acceptable
and
I
got
the
answers.
Yes,
but
that
was
after
I
seen
the
notices
to
the
neighbors
that
the
president
would
play.
You.
D
D
C
V
G
G
C
G
V
C
G
G
The
hardship
because
the
neighbors
see
it
on
the
agenda
Friday
and
then
you
know,
we've
had
it
where
they
come
here
and
then
they're
told
it's
been
withdrawn
and
I
think
that's
where
you
know,
but
whether
we
call
it
a
penalty
or
something
really
needs
to
be
imposed.
So
it's
one
thing
to
say:
it's,
the
first
of
July
I'm
not
going
to
appear
at
the
August
meeting
and
it's
another
thing
to
say:
it's
August
9th
I'm
not
going
to
appear
this
afternoon
for
this
evening.
I
understand.
A
C
A
G
L
G
D
Know
I
just
think
sorry,
because
I'm
reading
our
list
and
part
of
it
is
also
because
there
was
a
presentation
or
there
was
a
comment
on
landscape
features
and
trees
and
I'm
just
looking
at
55
and
I
am
thinking
that
if
we
can
discuss
this
next
time,
fountains
and
landscape
features
and
we
only
have
minor
work,
staff
and
I
think
that's,
maybe
I'm
thinking
of
something
particularly
like
what
about
a
Jennsen
Gardens
right.
Why
would
that
ever
what?
If
someone
was
ripping
those
apart?
Why
would
that
ever
just
be
minor?
D
We
just
you
know
we
don't.
We
have
not
checked
that
other
box,
so
I
just
think
that
would
that
can
we
bring?
What
do
we
do
bring
that
up
next
time,
but
that
I
think
there
should
also
be
that
major
work
box
and
then
I
suppose
if
there
was
some
significant
landscape
feature
that
someone
was
destroying
that
would
have
to
come
before
us.
It
wouldn't
just
be
administrative,
because
now
there's
just
administrative,
that's
what
it
says.
G
G
L
D
It
just
seems
that
that,
because
one
of
the
things
I
must
say
that
Leslie
brought
up
as
I
mean
this
should
be
thought
of
in
the
same
way
as
buildings
when
we're
thinking
about
things,
if
they're
a
major
influence
on
the
property
or
whatever
I
mean
it
should
come
into
our
dialogue.
However,
we
decide
upon
it.
It
should
not
be
not
part
of
a
dialogue
we
have
and
it
is
listed
in
the
you
know.
It
is
listed
in
the.
C
G
D
A
D
C
A
A
C
So
I
have
at
least
seven
commissioners
who
can
attended
to
lie
to
an
a
thorough
special
meeting.
The
day.
I
am
on
the
agenda.
Repeat:
1215
Church,
it's
an
application
by
the
YWCA
to
the
modest
existing
house
and
also
a
planned
development
to
build
a
new
facility
north
of
where
the
house
currently
is.
That
is
not
in
a
historic
district,
but
it's
adding
a
entrance
for
the
complex
that
would
be
part
of
the
historic
district.
So
it's
a
little
bit
convoluted
in
that
sense,
so
they
they
have
submitted
their
application.
C
Today,
I
received
it
by
sometime
after
my
p.m.
and
tomorrow
I'm
supposed
to
meet
with
the
attorney
to
go
over
the
application,
make
sure
that
everything
is
in
place
and
there
will
be
another
City
project
on
the
agenda
as
well,
or
the
improvement
of
Main
Street
within
a
small
portion
of
it
would
be
in
a
historic
district.
So
that's.
Why
we'll
be
here
too?
So.
I
have
seven
commissioners
that
confirm
third
at
23rd.
C
So
the
you
receive
the
information
of
the
nominations
and
also
we
have
the
reception
this
coming
Thursday
at
6:30
p.m.
and
hopeful
that
you
can
come
I
understand
some
of
you
cannot,
but
we
need
also
some
assistance
to
be
a
good
host.
So
I
like
to
get
your
responses.
If
you
would
like
to
attend,
I'm
like
can
attend,
it
would
be
from
6:30
to
7:30.
It
will
be
very
quick.