►
From YouTube: Preservation Commission Meeting 6-22-2021
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
A
B
C
A
And
I'm
an
I
so
in
addition
to
whatever
other
background
cade,
what
wants
to
give?
I
did
go
look
at
the
state
law
and
it
does
it
says
it's
the
open
meetings
law
which
you
know
is
intended
to
make
it
so
that
you
couldn't
have
seek
backroom
deals
and
so
generally
requires
that
all
public
meetings,
including
commission
municipal
commissions,
be
open
to
the
public,
and
it
says
that
at
least
a
quorum
of
the
members
of
the
body
have
to
be
physically
present.
A
It
does
say
that
there,
the
commissioners
can
allow
virtual
participation
by
other
commissioners
as
they
wish,
and
we
can.
You
know,
still
certainly
encourage
the
public
to
only
participate
virtually,
but
unfortunately,
there's
no
way
around
it.
It
was
there
was
a
section
of
the
law.
That
said,
if
a
whole
bunch
of
things
happen,
including
the
governor
suspending
the
rules,
it
could
be
not
in
person,
but
that's
what's
running
out
june
30.,
so
so,
in
other
words,
it's
not
the
city's
choice.
A
There's
there's
nothing!
It's
a
state
law
that
you
know.
If
you
know
if
it
was
passed
a
while
ago
and
doesn't
you
know,
one
wishes
could
be
different
today,
it's
not
something
the
city
can
do
anything
about
realistically
other
than
we
can.
You
know
talk
today
about
rules
to
about
shorten
the
meetings,
allow
staff
more
discretion.
It
was
like
okay
that
circulated,
and
then
you
know
we
can
have
rules
to
minimize
contact
with
you
know
with
with
other
people.
A
A
So
that's
the
the
setting
what
you
know
kind
of
leaves
us
where
we
are
so
again.
My
hope
was,
we
could
get
a
july
quorum
and
if
anybody
beyond
the
quorum
wanted
to
attend
virtually
that
that
would
be
their
choice
and
then
try
to
control
the
meeting
as
best
we
can
try
to
shorten
it
as
best
we
can
and
just
do
our
best.
So
that
was
my
thought
about
just
you
know
what
we
should
try
to
accomplish.
A
D
I
think
one
thing
to
note:
I
talked
to
the
city
attorney.
He
did
just.
He
said
that
virtual
participation
outside
of
that
physical
quorum
is
okay,
but
it
should
be
reflected
in
the
in
the
commission's
rules
that
that's
permitted,
which
was
one
of
the
proposed
changes
and
then
also
just
have
it
in
the
rules
that
it's
not
just
participation.
D
It's
full
members
vote
numbers
virtually
as
well
and
then
outside
of
that
yeah,
like
you
said,
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
this
wasn't
a
decision
by
the
city
and
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
very
sympathetic
to
making
people
come
back.
I
do
know
that
one
of
the
reasons
why
the
city
decided
to
push
this
hybrid
model
was
so
that
we
could
limit
the
amount
of
people
that
would
be
in
council
chambers.
D
So
I
would
imagine
the
majority
of
the
public,
the
majority
of
applicants,
just
because
it's
so
convenient
will
continue
to
participate
virtually
and
then
I
know
facility
is
also
some
separate
issues
or
not
issues
but
kind
of
resolutions.
For
if
members
of
the
public
or
applicants
do
come
where
they
might
be
seated
in
the
ante
chamber
before
they
give
a
presentation
and
then
they
enter
the
enter
the
chamber
and
then
adding
some
some
more
separation
between
commissioners
with
some
kind
of
like
two-tier
setup.
A
So
we
could
ask
that
members
of
the
public
stay
in
the
anti-chamber,
except
when
they're
speaking.
D
Correct
yeah,
the
other
thing
that
I
think
you
should
make
just
kind
of
internal
rules
about
or
have
a
discussion
about
is
whether
you
all
wear
masks,
even
when
you're
conversing
when
you're
talking.
I
think
that
that's
something
that
you
or
you
can
certainly
decide
as
a
commission,
I
know
that
city
council,
for
example,
some
of
the
members
wear
masks
some
of
them
don't,
but
I
the
some
of
the
members
of
city
council
who
do
wear
their
masks.
It
actually
is
very
audible.
D
I
think
they
met
for
the
first
time,
maybe
two
months
ago,
john,
so
they've
and
they've
had
quite
a
few
meetings
since
then,
maybe
six
or
so,
which
is
actually
relatively
lucky
for
us,
because
that
hybrid
system
they're
using
is
pretty
well
developed
at
this
point.
But
I
don't
expect
many
many
hiccups
or
kinks
with
that.
D
C
A
Okay,
can
we
put
on
the
agenda
that
I
mean
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
or
just
do
it
in
front
of
that
virtual
participation
instead
of
in
person
attendance
is
still
encouraged.
D
I
think
I
think
I
would
either
yeah
you
could
either
say
something
like
that
or
not
say
anything
at
all.
I
think
I
think
so
many
members
of
the
public
are
so
used
to
participating
virtually
you
would
at
least
say
that
public
comment
can
still
happen.
Virtually
I've
talked
to
most
of
the
applicants
who've
submitted
kind
of
recently,
and
I've
told
them
that
they
can
still
participate.
E
This
anti-chamber
for
those
that
members
of
the
public
that
are
showing
up
in
person
is
this
a
tight
space?
Is
it
a
generous
space?
Is
there
going
to
be
any
issue
with
packing
people
in
there?
It's.
D
Probably
I'm
trying
to
in
my
head-
it's
probably
a
fifth
of
the
size
of
the
council
chambers,
it
maybe
seats
20
to
30
people,
I'm
trying
to
to
think
about
it.
But
I
I
think
it
would
be
difficult
for
city
council
to
have
everyone
in
there,
but
I
think
for
the
public
comment
that
we
typically
receive
it
would
it
would
be
a
very
generous
space.
E
C
And
it
separates
sorry,
it
separates
the
main
chamber
from
the
antechamber,
but
the
anna
chamber
is
open
to
the
rest
of
the
corridor.
A
Hallway
I
mean
as
long
as
we
don't
have
any
matters
that
you
know
like
a
brand
new
house
with
a
lot
of
neighbors
showing
up,
I
mean
most
of
them
are
meetings.
Last
few
months
have
been
very
little
public
participation,
and
so
you
know
hopefully
for
the
first.
You
know
for
a
little
while
that'll
be
true
that
hardly
anybody
would
come
anyway.
F
If
I'm
a
good
good
evening,
carlos
hi-
I
don't
know
if
you
discussed
this
earlier,
but
before
you
enter
the
civic
center,
you
have
to
sign
up
and
they
they
take
your
temperature
for
everybody
who
goes
in
so
they're
screening
there.
F
The
other
thing
I
talked
to
kate
earlier
much
earlier.
You
know
this
discussion
was
brewing
about
the
in
person
meetings
after
we
announced
it
that
last
meeting,
we
need
to
coordinate
with
the
health
department,
because
you
know
it's
one
thing
that
we
come
with
our
plan
and
another
thing
that
you
know
we
don't
want
to
necessarily
interfere
with
the
city
as
an
entity
is
trying
to
do.
F
I
think
all
the
things
that
has
been
discussed
through
kate
and
today
are
reasonable,
but
we
just
don't
know
and
sort
of
have
our
own
rules
how
to
conduct
the
city's
commission's
meetings
when
we
have
the
monday
from
the
state
and
the
city
is
trying
to
comply
with
those,
so
I
just
want
to
double
check
on
whatever
would
be
favorable
to
continue
or
initiate
the
in-person
meetings.
That
would
not
be
contrary
to
what
the
city
is
doing.
F
Right
now
I
don't
know
exactly
what
the
city
will
be
doing.
I
asked
our
department
director
yeah.
I
asked
johanna,
you
know
earlier
when
she
announced
you
know
if
we're
going
to
have
more
direction
from
the
health
department,
and
she
said
basically
that
would
be
coming
and
we're
not
just
there
yet,
but
on
july
1st
it's
around
the
corner
and
we're
going
to
get
that
information.
So
yeah.
A
I
mean,
if
you
could,
let
us
know
before
the
meeting
I
mean
I
guess
our
first
meeting
is
until
the
13th
yeah.
I
think
we
all
want
to
know
you
know
the
rules
well
before
we
sign
off,
I
mean
I
think
none
of
us
want
to
walk
in
the
room
and
be
told
that
the
city
is
won't,
follow
any
of
our
dictates
and
be
very
uncomfortable.
The
situation
I
think.
A
F
D
I
I
think
that
you're
able
to
within
kind
of
that
general
framework
you
can
set
some
of
your
own
rules
for
how
these
meetings
are
are
conducted,
is
my
understanding,
some
of
the
things
that
we
don't
have
really
a
final
determination
are
or
some
of
like
how
the
room
will
be
set
up.
D
I
haven't
gotten
that
back.
I
know
that
I
had
to
send
everybody
that
and
manages
any
of
these
meetings
had
to
send
their
schedules
to
facilities,
because
they
want
to
make
sure
that
they
don't
have
multiple
meetings
happening
at
the
same
time
that
are
in
close
proximity
to
each
other,
and
then
they
were
looking
at
ways
to
basically
mitigate
the
risk
and
that's
some
of
what
we
already
discussed
were
things
that
they
were
looking
at.
A
Okay,
in
terms
of
the
proposed
changes
to
the
rules
you
circulated,
so
I
think
one
was
to
allow
commissioners
to
attend
virtually
as
long
as
there
was
a
quorum
in
person.
Another
was
to.
I
can't
remember
what
you
would
use
defer
to
the
staff
more
major
work
to
shorten
the
agenda.
A
And
I
don't
I
mean
it,
you
know
people,
it
might
still
be
a
good
idea.
I
mean
it's
pretty,
you
know,
maybe
we
need
that
left,
but
on
the
other
hand
there
might
you
know
if
we
come
up
with
a
meeting
with
nine
things
on
the
agenda
and
three
of
them
seem
like
what
we
always
approve.
Maybe
we
would
rather
have
that
a
little
more
leeway
for
you
guys,
stewart.
G
Yeah,
there
are
a
number
of
things:
the
things
that
constantly
reoccur
are
things
like
window
replacement
and
siding
replacement,
siding
and
trim
replacement,
and
I
would
be
happy
to
have
carlos
and
kate
determine
those
with
the
commission,
then
giving
them
some
recommendations,
for
instance,
with
respect
to
siding.
I
certainly
would
want
to
see
final
sighting
replacing
wood
siding.
I
would
want
to
see
you
know:
12
inch,
cladberg,
replacing
four
inch
clabber
the
same
thing
with
windows.
G
D
G
Kate,
I
don't
know
that
the
the
that
the
standards
necessary
I
mean
the
standards
ask
for
a
replacement
in
kind,
which
means
that
if
you
have
a
wood,
a
double
hung.
Wood.
E
G
It
with
a
double
hung
window.
We
encourage
people
to
restore
things,
but
frankly,
in
this
day
and
age,
that's
a
very
costly
proposition.
Most
people
would
rather
replace
with
something
that's
high
quality,
and
we
would
just
want
to
trust
you.
Although
the
the
you
know,
it's
not
written
anywhere
that
things
like
vinyl
or
you
know,
vinyl,
siding
or
or
egregiously
airsoft's
materials
will
not
be
accepted
on
landmark
houses.
F
There
are
houses
that
you
know
happen
to
be
in
the
district,
but
they
don't
have
the
same
quality
or
relevance
or
significance
as
others
that
might
not
be
landmarks
but
still
contributing
on
significance
and
would
be.
Oh
sorry,
and
there
are
others
other
applications
that
the
commission
recently
approved
for
not
by
now
by
the
composite
material
windows,
including
including
a
case
where
it's
a
double
house,
where
one
house
had
the
well
the
whole
building
had
the
steel
windows
but
then
half
of
it.
They,
the
commission,
approved
the
composite
window
by
anderson.
F
So
you
know
that
was
again.
The
house
was
not
a
landmark,
not
a
contributor
or
significant,
but
happened
to
be
a
steel
window.
The
application
did
not
ask
for
replacement
in
kind.
So
we
need
to
be
very
conscious
about
that,
and
we
still
think
that-
and
I
have
through
my
tenure
with
the
commission,
I
consulted
with
you,
know
the
chair
or
the
vice
chair.
Occasionally,
when
I
don't
have
a
definite
answer
in
my
mind,
you
know
this
is
okay,
I
always
consult
you
know,
and
sometimes
you
know
they
will
say.
F
No,
this
is
fine,
go
go
ahead
or
sometimes
they
will
say
no.
I
would
prefer
to
see
it
in
product
commission,
so
we
have
may
make
that
effort
to
have
consensus
and
the
other
thing
is
now.
We
have
to
formalize
the
pre-meeting
committee,
where
they
look
at
applications
for
completeness
and
they
make
recommendations
as
well
to
the
applicant
to
make
the
application
more
to
perfect
the
application.
So
that's
another
instance
where
we
could
ask
them
if
certain
projects
should
or
could
be
revealed
administratively
so
yeah.
F
G
Yeah,
the
the
only
thing
I
wanted
to
add
to
that
is
that,
with
respect
to
both
contributing
and
non-contributing
structures,
as
opposed
to
landmark,
you
know
again
with
respect
to
window
replacement
and
siding
and
trim
replacement,
I'm
certainly
willing
to
rely
on
you
and
on
kade,
you
know
with
respect
to
windows,
you
probably
went
to
the
most
extreme
example,
which
are
you
know,
old
steel
casement
windows,
which
were
single
glazed
with
you
know,
I'm
perfectly
willing
if
all
of
the
windows
are
being
replaced
or
or
the
windows
being
replaced,
are
not
adjacent
to
remaining
windows
to
accept
thin
profile,
wood
windows.
G
G
So
there
again
it's
a
kind
of
judgment
call,
and
I
don't
think
we
can
ask
anybody
in
this
day
and
age,
to
put
in
a
eighth
inch
window
glass,
putty,
glazed
steel
window
to
replace
something
that
may
have
rusted
through.
B
May
I
may
I
just
make
a
just
a
quick
note
when
kate
asked
whether
I
was
available.
I
said
you
know
I'm
only
available
for
about
a
half
hour
tonight.
So
if
we
only
have
six
people,
we
only
have
a
quorum
until
I
have
to
leave
right.
So
I'm
a
little.
G
Do
we
have
a
quorum
of
people
attending
the
july
meeting?
Is
that
for
sure,
because
I
will
come
if
there
is,
you
know
if
there
isn't
a
quorum,
I
will
be
there
to
make
up
the
quorum.
I
might
come
in
person,
but
my
first
choice
would
be
to
to
attend
virtually.
D
D
A
You
know
just
since
you.
A
I
mean
why
don't
we
vote
to
immediately
rules
and
then
we
can
keep
talking
before
you
go?
Will
would
you
be
willing
to
attend
the
meeting
or
you
know
to
answer
on
the
spot
of
just
trying
to
get
a
count
to
see
if
we
can
get
a
quorum
and
have
the
meeting?
A
B
Well,
I
sort
of
depends
on
what
the
rules
are
going
to
be.
You
know,
since
I
have
unvaccinated
people
in
my
in
my
household,
I
have
to
be
careful.
I
would
certainly
I'd
absolutely
commit
to
doing
it
virtually,
but
in
person.
I
would
like
to
know
what
the
change
rules
are
going
to
be.
A
Okay,
that's
fine
understandable!
Why
don't
we
vote?
I
mean
I
think
we
want
to
vote
to
do
the
minor
rule
cleanup
that
kate
had
circulated
if
we
could
just
pass
that
which
doesn't
determine
the
issue
of
I
mean
it,
gives
the
city
staff
more
leeway
to
cover
for
us
if
we
can't
meet
but
it
you
know,
it
obviously
isn't
going
to
solve
the
the
issue,
but
it
would
be,
I
think,
better,
to
pass
it
than
not
pass
it.
F
A
A
D
D
E
B
E
D
Okay,
so
the
first
was
article
two
meeting
section,
one
meeting
notice
this
one
was
the
one
mark
said
they
changed
in
the
ordinance
for
the
a
quorum
being
five
members,
but
in
the
rules
it
says
six,
so
I
the
proposed
rule
change
was
that
it'd
be
a
simple
majority
of
appointed
members.
D
And
then
the
second
was
article
two
meeting
section
6
remote
participation,
so
this
just
added
a
section
for
remote
participation
that
aligns
with
with
state
law
and
then
creates
it
specifies
that
members
outside
of
the
physical
quorum
can
participate
fully,
including
voting
virtually
so
it
says
remote
participation,
a
quorum
of
the
commission
must
be
physically
present.
Additional
members
unable
to
attend
physically
because
of
personal
illness
or
disability
employment
purposes,
the
business
of
the
public
body
or
a
family
or
other
emergency
may
attend
and
participate
fully
remotely.
B
So
so
I
had
a
question
about
that.
Where,
in
there
is
it,
you
know
if
we
have
unvaccinated
people
in
our
household,
which
one
is
that.
D
D
And
then
there's
one
cleanup,
one
in
article
5
certificate
of
appropriate
list
on
applicability.
I
just
proposed
adding
a
section
that
that
describes
what
are
considered
non-permanent
line
of
sight
obstructions.
So
there's
an
addition
that
says
vegetation,
fences
and
walls
are
not
considered
permanent
line
of
sight
obstructions.
D
This
is
something
that
we
reiterate
to
applicants
all
the
time,
but
it's
not
really
it's
not
codified
anywhere,
and
it's
not
in
the
commission's
rules,
but
it's
it's
pretty.
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
It's
pretty
sensible
in
that
it
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
that
you
could
plant
a
hedge
or
build
a
fence
or
even
a
small
masonry
wall
and
get
out
of
the
ordinance,
because
you
can
claim
that
it's
not
visible.
D
So
the
idea
is
that
you
would.
You
would
have
a
separate
motion
saying
that
you
want
to
defer
and
then
a
specific
you
know
you
might
just
say
you
know
all
all
windows
or
something
for
the
next
two
meetings
and
then
after
that
time
it
would.
It
would
revert
back
to
being
something
the
commission
would
look
at,
and
I
think
that
was
at
least
important
to
me
just
because
it's
sensitive
in
that
it.
This
is.
This
is
something
that's
provisional.
D
It's
it's
not
it's
not
staff
trying
to
take
away
something
that
the
commission
is
responsible
for
reviewing
it's
just
something
that
in
unforeseen
circumstance
like
this
or
maybe
a
natural
disaster,
or
something
where
we
might
have
a
thousand
siding
permits
that
come
through
and
it
just
completely
inundates
the
commissions
commission's
work.
E
D
Correct
so
like,
if
you
wanted
to
do
that
tonight,
you
would
have
one
motion
to
adopt
the
amended
rules
with
or
without
additional
amendments.
And
then
you
would
have
a
separate
motion
to
defer
specific
types
of
work
and
then
specify
for
how
long.
C
And
so
would
we
be
alerted
of
the
list
of
potential
deferrals
through
the
agenda
and
then
we
would
vote
on
that
list
or
like
how
are
we
made
aware
of
what's
being
deferred
or
what's
being
proposed
to
be
deferred.
D
I,
in
this
instance,
I
did
propose
a
certain
number,
but
this
is
something
that
the
commission,
just
you,
could
propose
whatever
you
want,
but
I
did
propose
the
following:
number:
eight
alteration
of
existing
accessory
structures:
number
nine
additions
to
existing
accessory
structures;
number
10,
construction
of
new
accessory
structures,
number
34,
replacement,
alteration
of
roofing
materials;
number;
47,
alteration,
removal
replacement
of
existing
windows
and
doors;
and
then
this
one
doesn't
have
a
number
but
reciting.
When
there's
a
general.
C
D
C
D
A
A
A
Okay,
so
it
does
seem
like
we
can
get
a
meeting
and
the
goal
is
maybe
more
just
some
future
flexibility
and
to
maybe
minimize
you
know,
reduce
the
agenda.
B
Yeah,
I
I
I
mean
I've
been,
I
thought,
maybe
we
might
vote
on
these,
so
I
was
sort
of
holding
out.
I
could
I
have
like
two
more
minutes,
so
if
you
wanted
to,
we
could
vote
on
it.
Otherwise
I'll
take
off.
A
B
Okay,
all
right,
well,
the
it
seems
fine
to
me,
but
if
you
guys
are
going
to
vote
later,
then
that's
fine
I'll
just
say
goodbye.
B
A
All
right
should
we,
the
rule
change
just
seems
like
the
easy
part.
A
F
A
Someone
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
the
written
rule,
changes
that
katie
circulated,
which
again
don't
determine
what
we're
deferring
in
in
those
real
changes.
C
I'll
make
a
motion.
Let's
see,
I
make
a
motion
to
amend
the
commission's
rules
and
procedures
to
revise
article.
Should
I
just
read
this
part:
article
2,
to
reflect
a
quorum
being
a
simple
majority
of
members
appointed
as
well
as
adding
a
subsection
defining
remote
participation
and
article
5
to
define
line
of.
C
I
make
a
motion
to
amend
the
commission's
rules
and
procedures
as
as
read
and
defined
earlier.
A
Okay
roll
call
vote,
commissioner
cohen.
G
E
A
Mr
morrow
hi,
okay,
all
right,
so
we
got
that
done
so
it
sounds
like.
A
So
I'm
wondering
if,
particularly
since,
we
think
we're
going
to
have
a
meeting
if
we
could
have
a
maybe
a
less
specific
deferral.
D
I
I
wonder
if
the
point
that
someone
brought
up,
I
wonder
if
there's
some
way
just
to
defer
some
of
these
projects,
but
have
the
pre-review
committee,
or
maybe
a
subset
of
commissioners
control,
for
example.
One
that
is
very
broad
is
that
I
know
we
talked
about
mark
as
new
construction
for
accessory
structures,
because
that's
everything
from
a
garden
shed
to
an
adu,
a
coach
house
and
there's
a
huge
difference
in
in
those
two.
A
A
A
Mean
I
mean
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at
is
that
if
you
can
approve
some
more
projects
that
seem
I
mean
like
and
a
lot
of
times.
You
guys
will
ask
us
like
if
susie-
and
I
is
this
okay
and
we'll
say
like
it's
very
routine,
we
know
it'll
get
passed,
but
it's
definitely
something
that
technically
requires
commission
approval.
A
So
the
extent
we
cut
out
25
or
30
percent
of
the
projects,
the
next
three
months.
That
just
seemed
like
you
know
very
much
in
line
with
what
we've
always
done
and
not
involving
major
issues.
I
mean,
I
don't
think,
there's
any
way
to
make.
That
really
specific.
I
mean,
as
you
know,
stuart
said
it's.
You
know,
siding
it's
windows,
it's
probably
accessory
structures,
new
garages,
it's
just
kind
of
routine
stuff,
which
you
know
the
accessory
structure,
could
be
a
large
adu
or
something,
and
that
probably
you
shouldn't
be
approving.
G
Okay,
well,
well,
can
we
I'm
sorry,
can
we
give
with
respect
to
accessory
structures?
Can
we
give
carlos
and
kade
discretion
as
to
whether
they
want
to
approve
it
administratively
or
have
the
commission
review
it,
because
I
mean
you
know
if
somebody's
got
a
landmark
mark
house
and
they
want
to
spend
twenty
thousand
dollars
and
put
up
a
danby
garage
behind
it?
I'm
not
so
sure
that
I
would
approve
that.
F
F
So
we
have
enough
experience.
I
believe,
to
be
able
to
determine
what
the
commission
should
review
and
what
the
commission
would
allow
staff
to
review
and
again
we
will
always
consult
if
necessary
and
if
you
feel
comfortable,
the
advantage
that
I
have
now
is
that
I
have
someone
I
can
share
ideas
with
that.
It
would
be
kate
before
it
was
only
one
person
and
then
myself
with
the
chair
or
the
vice
chair.
F
F
G
G
F
Personally,
I
think
that
we
don't
know,
because
you
know
we
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
winter,
people
are
going
to
gather
again
in
their
homes.
We
don't
know
if
we're
going
to
need
a
new
booster
for
the
vaccine,
we're
all
hoping
for
the
best,
but
we
can
always
bring
this
periodically
for
renewal.
F
A
D
I
in
my
head,
I
was
thinking
at
least
the
next
two
or
three
meetings
made
sense
to
me.
One
just
allows
members
that
are
participating
in
person
to
fully
understand
if
they're
completely
comfortable
with
that
to
get
comfortable
with
it,
and
it
allows
members
that
are
meeting
virtually
to
kind
of
see
how
that
functions
too.
D
I
mean,
I
think
you
you
guys,
could
rotate
too.
I
always
thought
about
that.
If
there's
you
know,
if
you
want
to
rotate
who
meets
in
person,
that
might
make
some
sense
too,
but
I
yeah
in
my
head
that
some
kind
of
deferral
I
like
mark's
idea.
I
think
it
should
be
maybe
a
little
more
discretionary
and
broad,
but
have
it
be
reviewed
by
a
subset
of
of
commissioners
or
the
officers
of
the
commission
to
look
at,
and
I
think
particularly
that
applies
to-
I
mean
technically
that's
what
accessory
structure
says
right
now.
D
It
says
either
or
administrative
or
major
work,
and
then
we
consult
with.
We
always
send
those-
and
I
might
say
you
know
hey,
I
think
we
can
approve
this
and
and
sometimes
you
know
they
say
no,
but
I
think
it's
it's
more
important
for
like
windows
when
there's
a
change
in
the
appearance
or
something
where
right
now
it
says
that
that
has
to
go
the
commission
so
that
we
don't.
We
don't
have
a
any
discretion
when
it
comes
to
something
like
that.
A
All
right
so
we're
talking
about
like
for
the
period
ending
september,
30
2021,
the
staff
may
elect
in
this
discretion,
in
consultation
with
commissioners,
to
approve
administratively
projects
which
do
not
involve,
and
that
are
consistent
with
test
crisis
which
do
not
involve
major
or
significant
policy
issues.
Just
something
like
that.
It's
really
leaving
any
discretion
to
manage
the
agenda
and
react
to
circumstances
over
the
next
90
days.
F
I
mean
even
if
it's
before
the
september
30th
I
just
want
to
just
we
will
bring
to
your
attention
any
changes
that
we
don't
have
have
been
having
foreseen
or
anything
anything
unusual.
F
F
A
A
C
C
A
I
do
think,
as
you
can
hear
everybody
wants
to
know
before
we
come
what
to
expect
and
then,
if
you
know,
if
there's
some
crazy
thing,
we
will
have
time
beforehand
to
work
it
out.
You
know,
I
just
don't
think
we
want
to
show
up
and
have
nasty
surprises.
C
Oh,
just
sorry,
just
a
question:
did
we
vote
into
or
did
we
just
discuss
having
a
a
built-in
break
for
really
really
long
meetings?
Where
did
that
land.
A
A
Okay,
all
right
should
we
adjourn.
A
A
C
E
C
F
Making
this
possible,
we
appreciate
it
sure
thanks.