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A
A
The
first
item
on
your
old
business
is
the
application
for
917
engineer
court,
and
there
are
a
couple
of
things
that
I
want
to
mention
specific
to
this
one,
because
we
have
a
fairly
long
agenda
tonight.
The
applicants
have
been
asked
to
really
focus
on
the
changes
to
their
design,
since
the
September
5th
meeting.
I
also
want
to
mention
that,
for
those
of
you
in
the
audience
that
want
to
comment.
B
My
name
is
Fred
Wilson
from
organza
Wilson.
Architects
would
like
to
focus
primarily
on
items
one
two,
four
and
ten
of
the
standards.
We're
also
going
to
touch
on
standard
three
a
bit
as
well.
We
feel
we've
tried
to
focus
on
a
lot
of
the
Commission
comments
from
from
the
last
meeting
and
I
will
point
out
the
the
differences,
this
drawing
sorry
photo.
B
We've
added
this
is
the
photo
from
1997
the
aerial
it
actually
shows
the
the
original,
or,
if
you
will,
a
home
that
was
demolished
and
in
there
was,
it
did
have
a
flat
roof
at
that
time.
So
we
just
wanted
to
include
that
in
there
I
think
everybody
knows
the
site.
So
these
are
the
the
three
site
photos
for
the
next
one
Eliot.
This
is
actually
where
we're
showing
the
setback
lines
for
the
250
feet
within
to
every
50
feet
and
the
entire
block.
B
But
we
also
wanted
to
point
out
that
the
line
to
the
north
touches
the
facade
of
our
front
entry
sequence,
where
we
feel
that
that
is
a
line
of
continuum,
and
then
it
draws
the
line
at
the
south.
That
then,
also
touches
on
the
facades
that
are
to
the
buildings
to
the
south
of
us
go
to
the
next
one.
This
shows
the
actual
buildable
area
that
sorry
led
I
keep
drawing
on
your
head
here.
That's
okay,
I
got
really
so
that
this
shows
the
buildable
area
that
is
allowed
per
zoning.
B
As
of
right.
There
were
some
questions
as
a
right
means
that
it's
just
zoning
compliant.
We
are
not
asking
for
any
variations
and
there
was
some
other
question
about
window
wells.
We
did
not
have
any
window
wells
and
the
courtyard
on
the
southern
side
reduces
the
mass
that
comes
down
along
the
southern
expanse,
this
drawing
what
I
want
to
go
back
to
there.
This
I
want
to
point
out
what
we
have
studied
significantly
the
front
facade
of
the
building
and
the
materiality
of
the
building.
B
The
original
parapet
wall
that
is
along
here
in
our
very
first
submission,
was
33
foot
6,
and
we
listened
to
the
Commission
and
lower
that
down
to
30
foot
10th
the
front
entry
Bay,
which
is
right
here.
That's
the
line
of
it
was
32
feet
and
we
brought
that
down
to
27
feet.
I
think
Suzy.
That
was
one
of
the
comments
that
you
were
making,
then
the
lower
level.
This
is
now
two
feet
above
grade
and
it
was
five
feet,
so
we
brought
the
front
entry
sequence
down
to
two
feet.
B
The
other
is
over
here
on
the
southern
edge
of
ours,
where
we
then
have
the
one-story
garage
that
were
next
to
we
have
lower
this
down
to
20
foot.
It
used
to
be
20
foot
8,
and
it's
now
19
foot
8.
So
though,
the
entire
sort
of
front
facade
has
been
lowered
down.
The
other
element
is
that
the
glass
on
that
slide,
that
we'll
be
showing
later
the
percentage
of
the
glass
to
the
facade,
was
22%
and
we've
reduced
the
glass
to
15%
on
the
front
facade.
B
B
We
have
removed
to
calm
down
the
front
facade
and
we
now
have
a
thin
brie
Soleil.
That
is
here
along
the
front.
It's
a
it's
about
8
inch,
thick
brie
Soleil,
and
then
we
also
have
that
same
bristle
a
along
the
back.
We've
removed
the
C
shaped
structure
that
was
along
the
back
and
it
does
not
project
out
as
far
so
good
an
excellently
the
the
rear
portion.
Also,
the
back
went
from
six
feet
down
to
five
feet
for
the
entire
structure
and
the
Florida
ceiling
was
fourteen
and
is
now
down
to
thirteen.
B
So
we've
lowered
the
whole
structure
and
the
rear
by
two
feet:
the
other.
These
are
the
condenser
locations,
they're
behind
the
parapet
wall.
They
actually
have
a
reading
of
72
decibels.
That's
what
this
states
up
here
and
just
as
a
comparison,
the
sound
of
normal
conversation
standing
three
to
four
feet
away
is
60
decibels,
so
it
kind
of
gives
you
a
sense,
and
these
are
only
required
to
be
eight
feet
and
we're
about
15
feet
off
the
property
line
and
they
discharged
straight
up.
So
in
terms
of
the
sound
go,
the
next
one
Elliot.
B
This
is
now
the
the
way
it
fits
in
and
Commissioner
Vogel.
You
had
mentioned
about
the
scale
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
true
computer,
rendering
this
is
the
photo
that
was
taken
where
the
tree
is
in
the
back.
So
you
see
that
tree,
and
this
is
actually
what
you
will
see
going
down
the
side
of
the
structure.
This.
B
The
30
foot
10
parapet
height
here
so
it's
I
can
lower.
This
is
the
27
foot
so
Susy.
This
is
where
we
lowered
the
front,
kept
it
as
a
flat
roof
you're,
seeing
the
windows
that
march,
along
with
the
vertical
orientation
the
front
entry,
is
now
only
two
feet
above
grade
here
is
grade
and
we
go
up
two
feets
to
that
front
door.
B
You're,
seeing
the
brie
Soleil
that
comes
through
the
C
shape
is
gone,
which
was
here
so
this
is
now
just
a
thin,
breeze
LA
and
then
this
shows
it
was
really
kind
of
behind
here.
But
this
shows
the
19
foot.
It's
19
foot
8
for
the
pair
for
the
handrail
for
the
for
the
front
entry
for
sorry
the
front
terrace.
This
is
the
start
of
the
roof
for
that
garage.
B
So
the
idea
is
that,
where
we're
coming
through
you'll
see
there's
another
drawing
where
it
starts
to
come
through
and
steps
down
in
between
these
two
struts
really
these
from
the
building
here
to
this
building
it
steps
through.
In
that
regard,
you
can
also
see
the
back.
You
can
see
the
materials
and
our
just
all
stuck
out
here
and
the
stone
spine,
you're,
seeing
it
from
the
middle.
This
is
metal
and
the
windows
are
a
bronze
metal
as
well.
B
Okay
go
to
the
next
one,
so
this
again
shows
you
the
tree.
That
is
the
actual
photo.
You
can
see
the
van
that's
here
that
is
that
tree
right
there
Commissioner
Bogle
again,
that
is
what
you
see
from
the
front.
That's
an
actual
computer
rendered.
You
can
see
the
spine
that
goes
out
over
it.
What
we
did
with
the
garage
door
is,
we
took
the
horizontal
bristle,
a
line.
We
lined
it
up
with
a
panel
above
and
then
we
have
sconce
lights
that
go
through
and
line
up
over
the
door.
B
B
So
this
now
is
a
rendering
how
it
looks
walking
down
the
street
so
that
you're,
seeing
Harry's
building
now
here
coming
up
and
you're
going
to
see
how
we
nestled
in
back
behind
here
again,
that's
what
you
actually
see
the
garage
then
to
our
south.
As
you
come
to
the
South
alakh
you're
crossing
the
street
you're
walking
now
north
you're,
seeing
the
building
again
in
terms
of
the
scale
of
it
that
again
right.
There
is
the
the
length
you
will
see
and
then
you're
coming
to
the
north.
B
And
then
what
we
also
the
next
slide,
let's
show
the
next
one
then
Eliot.
This
just
shows
you
also
when
we
did
the
animation.
This
is
now
from
the
southern
portion
of
the
street.
The
animation
obviously
does
not
have
landscape.
So
we
wanted
to
show
you
the
density
of
what
is
happening
on
the
street,
the
density
with
the
landscape
from
here
looking
back
at
it.
B
B
B
B
There
we
go,
this
is
showing
the
height
kind
of
looking
at
the
context
of
these
four
structures,
but
really
looking
in
between.
We
are
trying
to
then
nestled
in
between
the
height
of
these
two
buildings
here,
and
it
doesn't
even
actually
work
to
the
building
to
two
doors
to
our
north,
but
the
idea
is
that
now
the
tip
of
that
with
that
new-
it's
it's
you
know,
drop
down
by
about
three
feet-
is
now
actually
utilizing
that
line
as
the
piece.
So
the
next
slide.
B
B
It
is
a
four
bedroom
home,
there's
a
kid's
bedroom
here,
kids
bedroom
here
and
then
the
master
bedroom
right
here.
This
is
a
home
office
on
this
side.
This
is
a
craft
room
and
then
upstairs
we
have
a
guest
room.
So
this
is
a
four
bedroom
home.
This
is
a
two-car
garage.
So
again,
I
think
keeping
it
in
modest
scheme.
This
is
this
play
our
play
area
courtyard.
You
can
now
see
also
the
spine.
We
brought
as
an
architectural
element
all
the
way
through
the
structure,
so
it's
no
longer
just
a
little
front
piece.
B
It
actually
knits
the
whole
front
to
the
back
together.
Okay,
go
to
the
next
one,
so
this
now
is
that
fourth
bedroom
again,
these
are
not
huge
rooms.
The
idea,
then,
is
that
this
is
the
sort
of
livable
habitable
space,
so
family
room,
dining
room,
kitchen
breakfast
area
and
a
music
room
with
the
center
stair.
Here.
This
is
the
spine
again
that
comes
through
the
second
floor
and
becomes
the
chimney
and
then
comes
up
in
the
rear.
B
And
this
just
wanted
to
point
out
this:
is
there
we
go
there
we
go.
This
is
required
to
be
8
feet.
That's
the
8
foot
line.
We
are
17
foot
8
off
of
the
property
line
for
the
condensers
and
we
are
10
foot
4
from
the
property
line
to
the
to
the
generator.
The
generator
will
exercise
as
they
call
it
once
a
week,
so
it
will
run
for
approximately
20
minutes
once
a
week
so
that
it
is
working.
B
Then
the
next
slide
just
really
shows
you,
the
progression
of
where
we've
been
with
the
large
pieces
of
glass,
the
c-shaped,
the
multiple
materials,
the
siding
that
was
in
here.
We
then
simplified
it
the
next
time
and
where
the
see
again
is
now
it's
stucco
now
you're,
seeing
where
the
spine
is
not
reading
as
an
element,
the
vertical
windows
that
march
through
and
the
brie.
So
a
piece,
that's
here
so
just
a
visual
of
where
we
were
and
how
we
came
I.
B
Think
I
would
attribute
to
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
the
Commission
has
has
been
helping
us
with
go
to
the
X.
This
shows
you
again
where
the
siding
and
the
stone
is
a
blend,
and
we
now
are
just
doing
at
a
stucco
the
same
with
the
blend
here
and
now
we
are
just
doing
it
was
stucco
there
and
then
the
same
with
the
southern
element.
We
did
pull
this
forward
so
that
we
get
a
modulation
from
front.
It.
C
D
D
D
Come
down
significantly,
that
was
a
comment
that
we
heard
from
the
Commission
and
we
feel
like
we've
addressed.
We
think
it's
important.
We
think
it's
important
to
to
see
that
transition
between
these
three
particular
houses.
That
seems
to
be
the
focus
that
the
Commission
has
been
looking
for.
There.
D
D
Standard
number
two,
which
was
the
proportion
of
the
facades
we
provide
this
diagram
again,
showing
these
these
heavy
red
outlines
are
the
vertical
facade
to
the
prominent
facades
against
the
street
wall.
You
can
see
now
that
the
modulation
and
in
movement
between
the
foreground
and
the
background
of
this
house
are
now
much
more
in
keeping
with
with
what
the
adjacent
houses
are.
D
This
house,
of
course,
having
sloped
roofs,
but
this
house
having
a
tall
gable
wall,
you'll
notice
in
the
in
the
subsequent
diagrams
that
these
rear
surfaces
of
the
house
set
back
aligned
with
the
vertical
faces
of
prominent
vertical
faces
of
the
houses
to
the
south.
The
forward
facing
facade
the
prominent
facade
here
is
aligned
with
the
prominent
face
of.
D
Slide
number
number
three
proportions
of
openings.
As
Fred
mentioned,
we've
responded
to
commissions
concerns
the
purporting
or
the
windows
that
we're
not
showing
in
this.
Our
vertical
rectangular
window
is
much
more
in
keeping
with
the
windows
on
the
immediately
adjacent
houses,
the
ones
in
the
north
and
what
the
South,
particularly
the
large
panels
of
glass,
are
now
excluded
from
the
front
facade,
and
the
rhythm
is
more
in
keeping
with
what
you
would
see
these
homes
in
this
home
on
the
home
on
the
examples
of
ours
on.
D
We
think
this
is
a.
This
is
an
important
point
to
make
as
well.
We
we've
talked
specifically
with
a
couple
of
the
commissioners,
the
past
meetings
about
Adam's
alignments
relative,
these
houses,
the
red
line
that
you
see
across
the
top
takes
roughly
the
center
the
center
second-story
window
of
the
major
houses
to
the
north
and
continues
it
across
you'll,
see
here
that
it
is
roughly
the
midpoint
of
the
second-story
windows.
Here.
It's
the
sill
of
the
second-story
windows
on
this
house.
D
It's
the
midpoint
of
the
house
of
the
windows
on
the
house
and
media
to
the
north.
It
aligns
with
the
sill
again
on
our
house
and
finally
in
the
midpoint
of
the
second-story
windows
on
the
house
of
the
south
of
us
on
the
first
floor
again
by
lowering
the
first
floor
by
that
by
the
two
feet
a
to
two
feet.
We
also
pick
up
the
center
lines
of
the
entry
doors,
the
entry
sequences
and
the
promised
and
prominent
forward
facing
facades
of
these
houses,
including
the
house
meeting
to
the
north
and
immediately
to
the
south.
D
C
D
D
E
D
Rhythms
of
solids
and
voids
in
the
decided
we've
revised
the
diagram,
as
we've
shown
you
before,
showing
the
relationship
of
the
front
facade
the
lighter
hatch
being
the
northernmost
side
of
the
building,
which
picks
up
on
these
lines,
which
align
with
the
facades
much
further
to
the
north
and
address
the
forward.
The
forward
nature
of
the
house
to
the
north,
the
darker
section,
addressing
the
house,
the
houses
and
the
vertical
facades
to
the
south
of
this
building.
We
spoke
about
a
moment
ago.
Anyone
in
the
proportion
of
facades
and
the
rhythm.
D
So
again,
looking
at
nice
again,
looking
at
the
setback
lines
that
that
Fred
mentioned
earlier,
the
green
line
you
see
here
corresponds
with
the
forward-facing
facade,
the
most
prominent
facade
of
the
house,
which
addresses
the
how
the
structure
is
immediately
to
the
north,
which
said
which
set
a
precedent
to
the
south.
The
higher
second
story,
the
main
facades
of
the
houses
beyond
the
garages
which
aligned
with
the
setback
on
the
front
face
of
our
house.
That
is
a
slight
provision.
D
D
The
next
one
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
about
the
spacing
on
the
street.
You
can
still
see
you
can
see
as
the
rendering
and
the
model
also
showed
the
spacing,
and
the
rhythm
between
these
structures
remains
compatible
with
with
the
rest
of
the
block.
We
showed
you
a
rendering
last
time
that
shows
a
blue
void
space
between
these
buildings,
which
indicated
a.
D
There
we
go
there,
we
go
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
last
time
there
was
there
were
some
comments
about
the
about
the
they
scale.
The
structure
relative
to
the
street
we've
shown
here
this
the
lot
widths
and
the
occupancy
of
the
houses
along
the
street.
We
had
shown
you
before
in
the
diagrams
of
the
solid,
devoid
or
the
building
to
opening
showing
that
rhythm
was
consistent.
D
That
obviously
hasn't
changed,
as
the
width
of
this
building
hasn't
changed,
but
you
can
see
that,
based
on
the
width,
the
width
of
the
lot
and
the
width
of
the
structure
on
the
lot
we
are
in
keeping
with
the
average
of
how
each
of
these
structures
occupies
its
own
site.
We
are
occupying
80%
of
the
live
front.
The
house
immediately,
the
south
is
79
to
the
south
of
that
is
79
to
the
north,
is
82
82
up
here.
The
largest
of
the
Lots
is
at
67.
D
D
D
F
Okay,
hi
everybody,
I'm
sue,
save
owner
of
9:17
edge
McCourt,
along
with
my
husband,
Adam,
he's
actually
traveling
for
work
this
week,
so
he
couldn't
be
here.
We
just
wanted
to
say
we
appreciate
the
time
here
and
we've
worked
really
hard
over
the
past
month
and
months
and
years
with
our
team
here
to
try
and
respond
to
the
comment
that
we've
heard
here,
and
we
really
believe
that
we've
addressed
all
the
points
that
have
been
raised
in
the
last
meeting.
C
C
A
We
begin
public
comment.
We
have
a
few
folks
signed
up
to
speak
specifically
to
this
case.
We
did
receive
a
communication
from
mr.
William
Goldstein
who
lives
at
9:40,
Edgemere
Court,
and
he
writes
it's
addressed
to
me.
I-
am
writing
to
express
my
opposition
to
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
property
at
9:17
edge
of
our
Court
has
presented.
The
design
still
fails
to
comply
with
issues
cited
by
architect,
preservationist
of
gilbert
and
architect,
preservation,
Commissioner,
Julie
hacker.
Please
reject
this
request
until
plans
are
brought
into
compliance
sincerely.
Mr.
A
goldstein,
okay,
we're
gonna
begin,
probably
comment.
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
specific
to
979
Mary
will
all
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
There
will
be
no
seating
of
time
or
passing
a
long
time.
We
we
need
to
move
things
along
tonight,
as
you
likely
all
see
it.
We
do
have
a
lot
of
cases
tonight.
We
want
to
be
fair
to
all
of
the
applicants.
So
first
up
is
Harry
Lawrence.
H
I
What
I've
done
is
that
this
is
the
same
model
that
was
at
the
last
meeting
back
in
September
on
September,
2
and
I.
Had
the
model
makers
pull
out
the
house
that
was
here
before
and
then
insert
their
new
plans
and
the
plants
that
are
presently
being
presented
now,
even
though
they
allege
that
moment
they
say
they
lowered.
It
makes
me
feet,
it
still
has
felt
too
high.
It's
just
way
too
high
into
NASA.
There
are
deltas
we
might
get
out.
This
is
the
narrowest
a
lot
on
the
block.
This
is
only
50
feet.
I
I
All
right
right
here,
if
you
see
here
this-
is
this:
isn't
even
that
girl,
but
look
how
much
the
Lord
is.
This
is
919.
That's
my
help.
It
was
substantially
lower
than
my
house
and
the
other
homes
that
they
made
comparable
to
this
Lake
Shore
Boulevard
and
the
Greenwood
home.
That's
under
construction
now
are
much
they're
like
20
25
feet.
I
You
can
hear
me
without
a
mic,
so
in
any
event,
those
are
my
comments.
I'm
still
here
with
respect
to
height
and
mass,
and
it
just
seems
like
there's
still
way
too
high,
because
it's
hitting
my
it's
not
even
below
it's
not
even
below
down
to
the
ridge
of
the
roof
and
I
mean
there.
It
is
you
see
it
on
both
models.
You
can
see
it
on
both
model.
The
massiveness
of
that
of
that
building.
I
A
You
and
if
you
could
state
your
address
to
please
sure,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
you
may
want
to
pull
the
microphone.
Just
a
touch
is.
K
This
better,
yes,
okay,
I
meant
911
right
next
door.
K
Concern
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
really
do
believe
that
this
commission
is
trying
very
hard
to
preserve
and
protect
this
little
historic
neighborhood
on
edge
mayor
within
the
larger
historic
neighborhood
of
the
lakeshore
district
and
by
rigidly
applying
the
standards
for
appropriateness
of
a
new
house.
It
is
the
standards
and
not
a
sentiment
for
the
applicant
or
how
many
times
that
they
have
appeared.
That
should
be
the
deciding
factor
here
tonight.
There's
already
one
grossly
out
of
place
in
the
house
on
the
east
side
of
engineer
built.
K
If
this
large
house-
and
it
gives
a
large
house
it
looms
over
our
house
to
the
south-
is
allowed
to
be
built,
this
is
going
to
open
the
door
even
wider
to
as
tight
more
this
type
of
development
by
those
who
feel
that
it's
their
right
to
do
so
on
valuable
property.
This
is
the
second
largest
house
of
harry
said
on
the
narrowest
lot,
but
we
basically
got
a
10-pound
sausage
in
a
five-pound
casing
and
what
will
be
left
to
preserve
this
kind
of
building
on
that
Street
continues,
which
it
is
likely
to
well.
K
Some
might
feel
sympathy
for
the
applicant
and
that
they
do.
This
is
not
a
basis
on
which
to
issue
a
CoA
simply
being
the
worn
down.
The
standards
must
dictate.
There
have
been
changes
made
to
the
design,
but
the
fundamental
problems
with
the
size
and
height
and
mass
have
not
been
sufficiently
addressed.
K
There
are
no
other
fight
foots
above-ground,
basements
I
know
it's
only
two
feet
right
in
the
front,
but
it
is
a
five
foot
above-ground
basement
in
this
house,
which
there
are
none
of
those
on
the
street
incompatibility,
especially
with
the
two
neighboring
houses,
which
a
commission
member
earlier
said
is
the
most
important
consideration.
Friday
is
just
not
there
there's
a
lot
for
every
house
and
a
help
for
every
log
and
the
house
for
1913
must
fit
the
lot
and
belong
in
the
history.
K
J
C
L
I'm
Joan
Rothenberg
I
live
at
901
Edgemere
court.
The
house
at
the
south
end
the
smallest
house
on
the
block
and
I.
Don't
really
have
anything
to
add
just
to
say
that
I
really
support
what
both
of
my
neighbors
have
said.
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
short
and
long
term
impact
on
our
neighborhood
of
building
such
a
large
house
I
think
it
is
a
beautiful
building.
That's
been
proposed,
I
think
it
deserves
a
space
of
its
own.
M
M
However,
I
do
think
that
it's
still
up
on
a
five
foot
high
basement,
which
at
least
three
commissioners
objected
to
at
the
last
meeting.
It
really
boosts
it
up
and
although
the
entrances
were,
you
know
lower
to
two
closer
to
grade
once
you
get
inside
the
house,
there
are
more
steps
inside,
so
the
mass
of
the
house
is
still
boosted
up
by
five
feet,
which
seems
unnecessary
for
a
basement
that
is
just
mechanical
space
and
storage
and
unoccupied,
especially
because
you
can
get
away
with
lower
ceiling
heights
by
code
in
such
spaces.
M
The
total
reduction
in
height
from
the
beginning
to
this
point,
as
far
as
I
can
calculate,
is
at
most
two
feet:
seven
inches,
which
is
not
really
a
great
reduction
in
height
and
I,
think
there's
still
room
by
lowering
the
basement
and
perhaps
lowering
the
floor
to
floor
Heights.
You
could
I
think
take
out
another
couple
of
feet:
every
standard
that
they
were
they
compared
to
other
contemporary
houses
in
a
neighborhood
that
had
such
inverted
plans.
M
They
compared
to
two
buildings,
mostly
1030
Lake
Shore
Boulevard,
which
I
think
won
an
award,
and
that
house
is
only
twenty
feet.
Eight
inches
high
at
the
back
and
it
slopes
up
slightly
at
the
front
to
what
I
can
calculate
it.
Best
is
21
feet
six,
and
if
you
look
at
these,
you
can
go
up
and
maybe
show
them
the
you
can
see
how
that
house
they're
all
the
images
are
really
tightly
cropped
and
they
don't
show
the
house
in
context.
M
C
M
Wants
what
was
built
at
night
25
to
happen
again?
We
all
wonder
how
did
this
happen?
How
was
it
approved?
It
really
is.
You
know
two
wrongs.
Don't
make
a
right
and
taking
a
mistake
as
a
standard
I,
don't
think
is
gonna
help
in
the
long
run
and
then.
Finally,
as
far
as
lot
coverage
goes,
that
courtyard
is
also
elevated,
five
feet
above
grade
and
we're
wondering
if
the
basement
extends
under
that
area
and
if
that
would
be
included
in
lot
coverage
and
the
area
of
the
house
and
then
finally,.
A
M
I'm,
just
the
last
thing
I
would
recommend,
is
given
the
large
areas
of
blazing
facing
the
lake.
You
might
want
to
consider
using
some
kind
of
a
fretted
pattern
on
the
glass,
because
you
might
wind
up
with
a
lot
of
dead
birds
in
your
backyard
because
they
do
tend
to
crash
into
the
glass.
Thank.
C
A
N
O
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Phil
okra
feel
colder
of
9/11
at
the
last
meeting.
I
stated
that
the
application
should
not
be
considered
at
this
time
because
it
is
based
on
a
faulty
zoning
analysis.
The
same
holds
true
here.
A
portion
of
the
land
on
the
east
side
of
the
lot
is
reclaimed
public
land
and
should
not
be
considered.
In
this
analysis.
It's
not
within
your
purview
to
evaluate
that,
but
I
am
reserving
all
rights
with
respect
to
that
issue
going
forward,
the
applicant
has
focused
your
attention
on
the
street
side
of
Edgemere
Court.
O
However,
the
overriding
test
of
standards,
one
three
four
and
ten-
is
visual
compatibility
with
the
property's
structures,
sites,
public
ways,
objects
and
places
to
which
it
is
visually
related.
Therefore,
the
street
is
not
the
only
frame
of
reference
for
this
analysis.
You
should
be
looking
at
the
totality
of
this
proposed
structure
in
relation
to
its
neighbors.
O
A
P
Good
evening,
dr.
gilberto
drug
was
covered
architects,
220,
South,
maple
and
oak
park.
I'm
here
representing
and
consulting
with
the
intramural
court.
Neighbors
I
also
would
state
to
begin
with
a
number
of
the
design
changes
that
have
been
made
have
made
considerable
improvements
to
the
aesthetic
character
with
the
neighborhood.
But
my
evaluation
still
maintains
that
the
height
is
an
overriding
issue.
Could
you
flip
to
actually
can
start
with
number
nine,
because
it's
probably
come
up
on
the
slides
there.
P
This
image,
you
can
see
sort
of
an
elevation,
the
height
of
the
parapet
of
the
upper
parapet,
will
be
30
foot
10.
That's
just
a
couple
feet
shorter
than
the
ridge
line
of
the
neighboring
house,
and
the
eave
line
of
the
neighboring
house
is
at
23
feet.
So
it's
considerably
more
than
the
eave
line,
and
if
you
kind
of
look
at
this
drawing
and
kind
of
do
a
visual
or
take
a
straight
edge
across
you
can
see
that
the
eave
lines
of
the
neighboring
house.
P
P
This
represents
also
the
height
issue,
pretty
well,
because
it
was
a
nice
direct
comparison
to
919
Edgemere
and
again,
you
can
see
that
the
parapet
of
the
essentially
the
the
top
part
of
the
house,
not
counting
the
stone
spine,
is
30
foot
10,
that
the
ridge
line
of
the
roof
of
919
is
30
foot,
434,
foot
4,
so
just
forth,
just
not
even
about
3
feet
shorter.
The
eave
line
is
marked
at
23
feet,
so
it's
over
7
feet
taller
than
the
eve
line
and
that's
the
top
of
including
the
parapet.
P
That's
the
top
of
the
second
floor
of
a
two-story
house
to
the
eave
line
of
the
two-story
house.
It's
a
23-foot!
So
that's
that's
the
difference
here
in
height
that
we're
really
talking
about
I.
Think
this
really
illustrates
that
pretty
well.
Additionally,
the
top
of
the
porch
element
is
at
nineteen
foot-
eight,
it's
not
marked
on
there
in
this
case
and
that
drawing,
but
that
compare
that
again
to
the
eave
line,
that's
the
top
of
the
porch
for
the
second-floor
balcony
off.
P
There
I
think
it's
their
playroom
and
that's
just
about
two
feet:
shorter
or
two
or
three
feet
about
three
feet
shorter
than
the
at
the
eave
line
as
well.
So
we
maintain
that
the
height
is
an
issue.
There
seemed
to
be
ways
to
address
that
it's
a
little
bit
misleading
in
the
models
that
you
see
in
that
they've
pushed
the
house
fairly
far
back,
which
kind
of
mitigates
that
appearance
of
the
height,
because
it's
set
back.
A
P
I
B
A
A
C
B
The
words
I'd
appears
to
be
taller
than
it
is
it
it
visually
is
not
being
represented
accurately.
This
is
what
it
will
look
like
in
the
neighborhood
and
we
can
do
the
rent,
the
driver.
You
know
the
walk
through
the
neighborhood
again
to
show
you
how
that
feels.
The
pushing
back
of
it
I
mean
yes,
Harry's
house
is
abnormally
pushed
forward.
We
then
pushed
back
with
what
we
consider
the
two
anomalies.
B
Q
You
guys
a
great
job
I
think
it's
a
lot
more
refined
and
more
elegant.
The
new
design,
it's
simpler,
I
think
less
is
more.
The
animation
is
very
helpful.
Your
model
is
very
helpful
and
I.
Think
that
facade
matching
being
lowered
three
feet
really
does
help
it
nestled
into
the
block
and
I
think
that
the
chimneys
fine
lining
up
with
you
know
in
the
middle
of
the
house,
kind
of
like
slows
it
down.
Q
Look
at
that
guy
wearing
a
black
suit,
with
an
oyster
I
mean,
though
so,
hey
so
I,
think
those
things
actually
helped,
but
I
still
feel
the
neighbors,
because
I
like
the
front
is
perfect
right,
like
we
all
love
it,
it's
super
elegant,
it's
modern,
it's
cool,
but
then
it's
gonna
be
like
this
giant
thing
like
plunked
into
the
mill
that
Street
the
problem
is
neighbors.
Is
that
it's
no
matter
what
is
built
there?
It's
gonna
be
this
giant
thing
plunked
into
the
middle
of
that,
like
it's
a
50
by
300,
you.
Q
Matter
who
builds
something
they're
like
it's?
Not
you
don't
ask
you
for
a
zoning
variance.
That's
you
can
build
that
like
this,
isn't
something
you
can't
build
but
to
get
took
a
really
hard
like
every
time
I
hear
you
guys,
I'm,
like
okay,
I,
agree
and
every
time
we
get
the
neighbors
I'm
like
I
agree
with
them.
Q
So
I'm
like
befuddled,
because
it's
like
you're
both
right
so
I,
don't
know
like
what
the
answer
is,
because
you
are
literally
both
correct,
like
you
guys
have
done
so
much
bent
over
backwards
to
make
this
so
much
more
elegant.
It's
so
much
more
simple
and
beautiful
right,
but
it's
still
like
an
apartment
block.
That's
going
to
be
in
the
middle
of
spot
and
like
that's
like,
but
that's
their
right
to
build
an
apartment
block,
because
you.
A
Q
F
R
H
Way
what
I've
had
to
do
much,
like
you
know,
didn't
think
the
conflict
that
you
expressed.
It's
just
remember
that
our
purview
is
the
public
way
and,
while
I
feel
for
neighbors-
and
you
know
in
the
situation
and
have
my
own
opinions,
I
have
to
remember
that
we
are
restricted
to
the
public
way
and
much
to
my
disappointment
that
the
lake
is
no
longer
for
whatever
reason
according
to
legal.
But
there
is
the
calm,
part
and
parently.
So.
A
A
U
I,
don't
have
a
question
but
I
do
echo
Karl's
comments
on
it's
a
very
narrow
lot
and
I?
Don't
think
you
guys
could
have
done
any
better
with
this
and
I
I
appreciate.
You
know
how
you
significantly
reduced
the
height
and
scale
or
a
man.
So
I
should
say
yeah,
that's
about
it.
It's
really
really
really
tough
illan,
so
I
would
probably
I
would
probably
say
yes.
H
O
We're
not,
we
did
not
have
the
opportunity
to
produce
those
photos,
given
the
short
time
available.
I
would
just
add
that
last
it
the
last
meeting,
you
considered
a
project
out
of
the
Northwest
Evanston,
where
the
question
was
public.
Wasn't
that
was
the
Golf
Course
a
public
way
and
you've
answered
that?
Yes,
you
evaluated
from
the
perspective.
Q
C
B
V
So
it
just
says
my
comments,
I
think
the
suggestions
that
I
made
at
the
last
meeting
I
think
you
guys
have
met
my
requests
of
those
I
think
you
have
significant
significantly
reduce
the
height
and
the
small
site
and
the
constraints
that
you
have.
You
change
the
proportions
and
you've
adjusted
the
front
so
that
it
looks
more
appropriate
from
the
street
publicly.
V
I
C
C
C
N
N
C
N
You
don't
have
to
yeah
I'm,
just
gonna
do
a
quick
handoff
here,
so
my
name
is
Matt
Rogers
I'm,
a
zoning
consultant
worked
with
this
particular
property
we've
presented
to
you
back
in
June.
We
were
seeking
a
zoning
variation
for
the
front
yard
and
we
moved
the
process
through
zba
and
have
been
given
a
a
approval
for
a
42
inch
fence
with
52
inch
piers
in
the
front
yard,
and
so
we
are
now
moving
into
the
next
phase.
N
G
I
A
N
That's
what
I
was
going
to
do?
That's
what
I
was
going
to
do
so,
since
we
were
last
here,
we
did
receive
permission
from
the
city
to
place
a
temporary
fence
in
so
we
have
installed
a
a
chain-link
6-foot
chain
link
fence
around
to
secure
the
properties
perfect
for
the
owners,
as
well
as
installing
a
six-foot
wood
fence
across
the
lot,
which
is
actually
at
92
Kedzie
there
to
the
right
of
the
house.
N
So
that's
the
conditions
as
they
stand
right
now
that
temporary
fence
is
due
to
to
be
removed
in
November,
and
so
that's
why
we're
moving
ahead.
Now
with
this,
and
just
this
point
of
reference,
the
wood
fence
that
you
see
there
has
not
been
secured
into
the
ground,
it
is
purely
a
cosmetic
approach
so
that
people
were
not
looking
at
a
chain-link
fence.
We
wanted
to
have
something
nicer
there
for
neighbors
to
look
at
so
now.
I'll
turn
it
over
the
choir.
W
N
C
W
F
W
W
Is
for
a
six
foot,
wood
fence
to
be
permanently
installed
on
the
side
and
rear
lot
lines,
which
is
the
bottom
image,
but
we're
proposing
landscaping?
There
will
be
faced
with
an
evergreen
hedge
flowering,
trees
and
flowering
shrubs
so
from
the
public
right-of-way.
You
actually
won't
see
the
wood
fence
and
the
second
image
is
the
Frank
yard
fence
that
we've
been
granted
42
inches
in
height
iron
fence,
with
52
inch
height
masonry,
piers,
the
bridge
we're
hoping
to
use
a
stash
of
brick
from
the
house.
A
A
W
A
W
H
A
U
A
G
A
G
H
A
T
A
C
C
M
A
Y
Y
Various
windows
around
the
house,
some
new
paneling
at
the
southeast,
Bay
and
wood
storm
windows,
all
around
the
house
at
all
of
the
existing
and
new
double-hung
windows.
Oh
and
the
last
thing
is,
we
are
asking
for
a
canopy
above
the
rear
entrance,
partly
as
just
cover
for
an
entrance
that
they
have
a
detached
garage,
and
so
they
would
like
somewhere,
where
you
can
be
safe
from
the
rain
or
the
snow.
What
you're
trying
to
fumble
with
your
keys?
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
We
just
wanted
to
highlight
the
entrance
and
provide
protection.
It
will
have
a
a
metal
roof
as
well,
something
that's
durable,
something
that
is
in
keeping
with
what
might
have
been
used
at
the
time
the
house
was
built,
something
the
rubberized
membranes
or
men
didn't
seem
appropriate
to
put
on
a
structure.
T
Y
Going
to
add
a
couple
of
round
windows,
some
wooden
windows
that
will
operate
the
window
on
the
right
is
for
Brett's
office.
The
window
on
the
left
we're
tucking
a
bathroom
into
that
corner.
So
we
wanted
to
have
some
natural
light
in
that
corner.
The
thinking
behind
the
round
windows
is
that
there
are
round
windows
in
different
parts
of
the
house
and
because
of
the
placement
between
the
pilasters
and
the
central
window.
The
round
shape
seems
to
navigate
that
complicated
space.
Y
Let's
see
and
then
on
the
South
East
Bay
further
to
the
left
on
the
drawing
the
second
floor
has
a
bedroom
in
that
space.
We're
adding
we're
proposing
to
change
the
three
windows
on
that
elevation
to
just
the
two
with
a
panelized
space
in
between
the
paneling
detail,
matches
a
similar
detail
on
the
North
facade
of
the
building
right.
If
I
gotta
have
you
flip
that
around.
Y
Y
Y
Y
So
here
we
are
putting
in
a
single
window.
It's
larger.
We
tuck
it
up
to
the
the
entablature
we're
going
to
add
the
typical
wood
second
floor,
casing
trim
as
a
piece
of
molding
that
wraps
the
entablature
and
then
is
the
casing
on
the
sides
of
the
window.
This
is
a
typical
detail
on
the
other
second-floor
windows
on
the
rest
of
the
house
on
this
elevation
to
the
lower
portion
of
that
that
Bay
we're
going
to
wrap
that
portion
with
style
and
rail
trim
with
paneling.
Y
Y
Y
F
Y
Y
U
Y
So
here
are
some
of
the
details
that
were
including
all
of
the
new
windows,
a
close-up
of
the
detailing
on
the
paneling
and
the
blank
or
the
the
canopy
and
the
brackets.
What
we're
proposing
for
the
storm
windows?
It's
a
wood
storm
window
with
a
stored
glass
panel
or
it
will
have
to
last
panels.
One
will
be
stored-
will
have
a
separate
screen
on
the
bottom.
F
Y
That
we'll
use
for
any
new
wood
double
hung
windows.
The
the
round
windows
we
do
have
to
use
a
flexible
trim
or
for
the
casing
and
I
show
that
that
detail
at
the
top
of
the
page
there,
let's
see
if
you
could
go
to
page
II,
sorry
I'm,
jumping
around
a
little
bit
here.
So
on
the
front
of
the
house,
we
are
going
to
get
rid
of
the
the
Pella
double
door.
That
is
the
main
front
door.
It's
a
clad,
aluminum
door.
Y
C
Y
Y
C
Y
I
think
I've
explained
every
every
little
bit
that
we're
doing
and
all
of
these
things
the
owners
love
this
house.
They
love
all
of
the
rich
character,
the
symmetry
the
detailing
that
is
still
there,
they're
very
proud
to
be
there.
While
we
are
sad
that
it
has
had
a
fire,
it
is
partly
an
opportunity
now
to
try
to
make
it
a
better
house
than
it
was
so
that's
what
we're
hoping
for.
Okay,.
R
Y
F
R
R
Y
Y
M
M
U
A
I,
my
only
other
concern
and
I
didn't
I
haven't
heard
this
from
Jamie
or
from
any
other
folks
is
on
age
and
the
the
size
of
the
one
panel.
That's
on
the
second
story
seems
a
little
large
to
me
compared
to
you
know
what
was
there
and
what
the
openings
are.
Can
you
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
thinking
there.
Y
J
V
Y
A
A
H
A
G
A
Z
We
were
doing
a
crawl
space
since
we
got
more
budget
numbers.
As
we
went
down
the
road
we're
going
to
working
drawings,
we
realized
that
we
can
actually
afford
it
to
a
basement
under
the
addition.
So
that's
the
first
reason
why
these
are
different,
because
now
there
are
basement
windows.
That's
that's
the
cat,
overarching
bigger
change,
the
massing,
the
heights
with
plan.
Everything
is
identical,
the
things
that
have
changes,
basically
windows
and
windows
and
numbers
on
the
east
elevation.
For
instance,
you
see
the
approved
Carl's
Cape
Ella.
Thank
you.
Z
Oh
there,
I
can
see
the
on
the
left
side,
that's
where
we
had
approved
few
months
ago.
In
the
meantime,
after
me,
with
kitchen
consultant
and
starting
to
work
with
cabinets
in
the
kitchen
on
the
lower
right
hand
corner
there,
we
determined
that
four
windows
was
too
much
and
we
couldn't
get
what
we
needed
in
there.
So
we
did
a
reduce.
They
had
three
windows
on
the
upper
left-hand
corner.
We
had
a
master
bath
that
had
three
full-sized
double
Hong's
and
we
just
felt
there
was
a
privacy
issue
there.
Z
We
decided
to
sort
of
truncate
that
down
to
two
which
sort
of,
in
my
mind,
helped
the
elevation,
because
it
helped
fit
a
little
bit
with
the
symmetry
which
always
sort
of
wasn't
my
favorite
thing,
because,
as
an
entrepreneur,
Prairie
tiles,
it's
typically
not
a
symmetrical
arrangement
to
begin
with.
So
that
made
us
happy
if
you
go
around
to
the
let's
say:
what's
next
one
extra
on
there
Carlos?
Z
What's
that
the
North
elevation
thinks
so
the
North
elevation
basic
remains
unchanged,
except
because
we
took
a
staircase
access
out
on
the
north
side,
I'm
sorry
in
the
south
side,
and
we
replace
it
with
a
simple
bulkhead
for
getting
bikes
and
big
things
in
out
of
this
new
basement.
So
it
sort
of
changed
the
rules
for
us
a
little
bit.
That's
why
we
ended
up
just
doing
this
very
little
profile.
Z
Okay
and
again,
the
basement
window
appears
because
there's
a
full
basement
and
then
on
the
South
elevation,
it's
more
or
less
the
same.
The
again
the
basement
windows
are
added
and
oh
I'm,
sorry,
you
know
what
on
the
East
elevation
I
meant
to
mention.
There
were
a
pair
of
French
doors
and
we
reduced
that
to
a
single
thunderstorm.
The
real
reason
for
doing
that
was,
as
we
got
further
and
further
into
detailing
how
downspouts
and
collector
boxes
were
working
stuff
to
realize.
Z
Mike's
got
all
these
big
things
coming
down
and
just
it
just
made
sense
to
reduce
it
to
a
single
opening.
That's
why
that
happened,
and
you
can
see
on
the
back
to
the
South
elevation.
We
reduced
that
stair
that
you
see
that
as
a
railing
going
down
to
the
basement
so
that
it's
gone,
we
pulled
piers
up
on
the
platform,
just
to
give
it
a
more
finished
look
and
to
match
the
front
of
the
house
more
and-
and
we
have
the
two
basement
windows.
So
that's
it
I
think
differ
some
questions
or
for
us.
A
A
A
V
A
G
D
Had
sent
me
a
note
and
asked
me
to
do
some
additional
drawings
for
the
purpose
of
this
meeting,
my
name
is
Gary
shoemaker
with
shoemaker
design/build
associates.
We
are
back
presenting
a
revision
to
a
previously
approved
application
at
704
Judson.
As
you
see
the
existing
house
as
a
prairie
style
house,
this
porch
we
originally
proposed
tearing
off
and
reconstructing
to
the
side.
D
D
Subsequently,
we
have
begun
working
with
our
landscape
architect
and
the
client
has
asked
us
to
revise
this
to
relocate
the
front
entry.
As
you
see
here,
this
is
zoning
compliant
it's
been
turning.
It
meets
all
the
all
the
requirements
for
setback,
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
read
it,
but
in
your
packet
you'll
see
that's
a
permitted
encroachment
beyond
the
front
yard
setback
Carlos.
Would
you
give
me
the
next
please?
D
This
is
the
previously
approved
application
in
which
we
extended
a
platform
extended
the
wing
walls
brought
to
staredown
and
screened
in
the
entirety
of
the
existing
screened
porch.
We
are
reconstructing
that
porch
that
was
approved
on
the
previous
application,
we're
going
to
continue
that
the
revision
is
to
rotate
that
stair
to
the
front.
We
are
uncovering
this
existing
front
door,
which
original
to
the
house
are
taking
off
the
storm,
the
storm
door
and
surroundings.
D
We'd
like
this
to
be
more
visible
and,
as
you
saw
in
this
site
final
moment
ago,
more
accessible
to
pedestrians
on
the
street
right
now,
the
entry
is
still
a
bit
hidden
off
to
the
side.
We
are
still
enclosing.
Half
of
that
screen
porch,
as
you
see
here,
by
sliding
this
wall
in
creating
a
square
landing,
we'll
have
a
coach
light
on
it.
The
barrel
vaulted
ceiling
of
the
original
of
the
existing
porch
will
remain
Carlos.
Can
you
get
the
next
slide
for
me?
D
Please,
these
drawings
show
you
the
before
and
after
here
and
when
I
say
before.
This
is
what
was
approved.
This
is
what
we're
permitted
as
a
currently
under
construction
light,
so
the
port
just
off
to
the
side.
One
of
the
things
that
we
discussed
when
we
were
here
last
time
was
the
railing
obstruction
in
front
of
this
living
room
window
pre.
Currently
the
house
that
does
not
have
a
railing
on
that
front,
porch
we're
required
by
code
to
add
one.
D
So
this
was
the
side
view
looking
from
the
south
toward
the
north,
as
that
porch
was
was
planned
to
enter
the
side
porch
the
battery's
dying
here.
This
is
the
revised
for
an
entrance.
You
see
that
this
is
the
dormer.
We've
constructed
the
dormers
in
place
and
stuccoed.
Now
this
is
a
projecting
balcony
off
of
what
was
a
jack-and-jill
bathroom
when
the
house
was
originally
constructed,
it's
now
a
master
bathroom.
D
This
is
the
new
opening
where
the
front
door
is
the
front
door
is
centered
on
the
house
on
the
flat
of
the
cable
and
the
hip
and
again
opening
this
up
to
give
access
both
for
entry.
In
for
visual
visual
access
to
that
front
door,
it
was
something
that
both
the
landscape,
architect
and
the
owner
had
asked
us
to
explore.
D
We
do
eliminate
the
wrought
iron
railings,
because
the
wing
walls
were
proposing
extend
out
just
as
the
existing
do
they
extend
into
the
front
yard,
so
we
have
a
handrail
but
not
a
not
a
picketed
guardrail
any
longer.
So
it's
a
simpler,
more
more
discreet,
railing,
more
keeping
with
the
period
of
this
house
and
the
Arts.
A
crest
detailing
with
this
house
was
the
next
slide.
For
me,
this
is
from
the
other
side.
You
see
that
this
porch
looks
no
different
than
than
our
previous
proposal.
The
rear
is
unaffected
by
this
change.
D
The
only
change
in
the
front
yard
is
the
extension
of
these
two
small
wing
walls
that
continue
the
battered
ship
web
site,
which
is
painted
from
the
porch,
maintaining
original
details
and
replicating
craftsmanship
of
this
porch.
It
should
be
noted
also
in
our
building
permit
application.
We
are
rebuilding
this
porch
from
below
the
foundations
have
failed
and
the
porch
is
sinking
so
stabilizing
missing,
raising
it
as
part
of
the
scope
we're
getting
like
that,
but
we
are
not.
D
This
is
the
landscaping
plan.
I
think
it's
important
to
show
you
that
the
reasoning
behind
this
the
owners
have
a
more
contemporary
aesthetic.
The
landscaping
will
include
large
blue
stone
papers
which
reorient
the
front
walk.
Currently,
the
walk
comes
off
of
the
side,
look
here
and
kind
of
meanders
around
to
a
landing
and
a
couple
of
awkward
steps
and
then
enter
the
portion
the
side,
so
we
will
reorient
it
from
the
sidewalk
a
direct
entrance
to
the
front
porch.
D
And
establishes
a
larger
aesthetic
in
the
front
of
the
house.
This
rendering
shows
an
existing
tree,
an
existing
tree
on
the
side
and
the
balance
we're
trying
to
create
in
there
if
you've
gone
by
this
house,
you'll
see
that
the
evergreen
trees
that
surround
this
create
a
pretty
rigid
symmetry
on
that
site,
as
it
is
so
our
intention
is
to
again
recenter
the
house
on
the
projecting
Bay,
the
new
dormer
above
and
the
front
door
on
the
front.
Porch
Carlos
is
the
next
slide
for
me.
D
That
so
this,
this
they've
got
any
better
batteries
again.
This
is
the
this
is
the
site
plan,
as
we
currently
have
the
job,
the
project
permitted.
That's
the
existing
walk.
There
are
two
uneven
steps
about
right
here
that
lead
up
to
this
porch.
What
precipitated
the
revision
is
the
inability
for
us
to
make
that
grade
without
significantly
recontouring
the
front
yard,
which
we
would
prefer
not
to
do
and
I'm
sure
that
Ingrid
would
prefer
us
not
do
that.
This
is
the
revised
site
plan,
the
landscaping,
so
there's
the
new
front,
walk.
D
There's
the
side,
decide
access,
walk
made
of
stepping
stones
that
curve
around
the
side
as
well.
Next
slide.
For
me,
these
are.
These
are
renderings
of
the
religious.
Of
course.
This
you've
already
seen
this
was
approved
previously.
Unfortunately,
the
quality
of
the
slide
is
not
fantastic,
but
you
can
see
that
the
that
the
shiplap
paneling
that
exists
on
the
on
the
porch
today
was
extended
in
these
wings
also
becomes
the
extension
of
the
wings
on
the
new
porch.
D
A
A
A
P
A
H
AA
D
C
D
Thought
we
stole
his,
but
I
think
there
was
one
down
here
today.
Thank
you.
This
project
is
a
nine
thirteen
Monroe
Street.
This
is
a
very
simple
window
replacement.
We
are
proposing
to
replace
eighteen
existing
insert
windows
this
this
house,
we,
our
best
guess,
is
probably
ten
to
twelve
years
ago,
had
the
original
windows
removed
from
it
and
it's
an
entirety.
They
were
replaced
with
with
weathershield
inserts
as
I
explained
to
Carlos
the
jamb
liners
and
Jam
pockets
were
not
insulated.
The
sashes
removed
the
stops
pulled
out
and
windows
inserted.
D
We
are
proposing
to
replace
these
with
mark
with
Pella
architects
series
reserved
windows
that
are
putty
glazed
simulated.
We
are
asking
us
the
National
Park
Service
recommends
that
we
use
a
landmark
series
window
with
a
clad
exterior,
so
I
have
marked
on
here.
The
windows
are
replacing.
Not
all
of
the
windows
are
being
replaced
this
time.
This
is
a
newer
casement
window
that
was
replaced.
It's
not
failing
the
windows
on
the
second
floor
in
the
front
here
have
failed.
D
They
are
covered
by
storm
windows,
but
that
is
because
the
Weather
Shield
windows
didn't
work
because
the
jams,
the
weight
pockets
were
still
full
of
weights
and
the
jams,
though
James,
were
not
insulated.
So
we're
planning
to
do
this.
The
proper
way
we
are
pulling
these
windows
entirely
out,
taking
out
the
old
weight,
pockets,
the
frames
and
installing
the
windows.
A
D
Are
no
original
windows
in
this
house
I
mentioned
that
to
Carlos
he
sent
me
thee.
He
sent
me
a
copy
of
that
there.
There
are
some
wood
weathershield
windows.
They
are
all
behind
storm
panels,
but
there
are
no
original
windows
left
in
this
house
on
the
back
of
the
house
in
this
edition,
where
we
are
not
replacing
any
windows
on
the
first
level.
These
are
also
weather
shield
windows
more
recent,
but
they
have
they
have
millions
in
them.
Millions
are
not
original,
nor
are
they
appropriate
for
this
house.
D
D
The
windows
on
the
west
side
on
the
side
of
the
house,
again
all
Weather,
Shield
inserts
that
are
being
replaced.
There
are
two
casements
in
the
stairwell
which
Carlos
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
For
me,
please,
you
can
see
the
casement
window
here
which
I
I'm
sorry
not
casement.
It's
a
fixed
casement
that
will
replace
with
the
fixed
casement
from
Pella
in
the
same
series.
There
is
a
closet
underneath
the
stair
that
has
a
that
has
the
only
single
glazed
window.
It
is
not
original.
D
It
looks
like
a
sash
panel
that
was
hard
from
somewhere
else
and
installed
there,
but
we'll
replace
this
in
the
window
directly
below
it
as
you'll
see
in
the
elevations.
In
a
moment,
we,
the
interior
casings,
will
remain
the
existing
jamb
stop
is
in
there
we're
going
to
cut
it
down
as
necessary
to
get
the
new
window
to
fit.
There
are
photographs
of
the
weathershield
windows,
they
look
fine,
they
do
not
work,
so
there
is
no
original
fabric
and
no
value
to
retaining
an
insert
window.
I
kind
of
the
next
slide,
please.
D
These
are
the
elevations
of
the
exterior
the
house.
If
you
look
every
designation
that
has
a
number
as
a
window
we're
placing
their
total
of
18
of
those
windows
that
do
not
have
at
exit.
The
designation
are
part
of
a
more
recent
renovation,
not
by
our
client,
but
by
someone
who
replaced
these
windows.
Our
best
guess
is
that
these
windows
on
the
first
floor,
which
were
part
of
kitchen
remodeling,
were
in
fact
replacement
windows,
not
inserts.
They
probably
have
a
few
years
of
life
left
in
them.
D
D
Excuse
me,
these
large,
fixed
glass
windows
are
direct
set
insulated
glass
windows.
They
were
direct
sets.
Angle.
Pane
originally,
would
be
our
best
guess.
They
have
also
been
replaced.
They
were
likely
replaced
when
the
inserts
were
put
in.
We
are
not
changing
those
the
glazing
beads
on
these
fixed
units
differ
slightly
from
a
distance.
They
might
as
well
be
putty
glaze.
They
have
a
slight
og,
but
where
our
preference
is
to
stick
with
a
putty
blaze
reserved
window,
that's
more
historic,
yet
historically,
accurate.
D
The
other
thing
we're
doing.
I
know
that
the
statement
of
significance
mentions
the
shutters
on
the
front
of
the
house.
They're,
not
original
they're,
fiberglass
they're
falling
apart.
It's
our
intention
to
remove
those
and
not
replace
them.
They
don't
belong
there
disproportionate
and
the
owner
doesn't
like
them.
So
we're
asking
to
take
those
away
from
the
house.
D
What's
that
the
shutters?
Yes!
So,
let's
see
that
they
as
I,
said
the
window
on
the
front,
we're
keeping
fixed
units.
The
existing
front
door
is
going
to
be
taken
down,
stripped
reseal
the
glass
the
glass
replaced
in
it
all
the
hardware
brass
seals
the
size
of
the
place,
then
its
existing
to
remain
we'll
service
it,
but
it'll
go
back
in
the
next
slide.
Please
these
are
the
drawings
morosa
guys
need
to
generate
showing
you
the
differences.
This
is
obviously
a
difference
between
an
insert
window
and
a
new
window.
D
The
weather
shield
insert
window
does
not
match
the
frame
profiles
of
the
landmark
series.
Pella
reserved
window,
the
pel
observed
windows
window
approved
by
the
National
Park
Service
for
use
in
such
things.
The
comparison
with
that
in
this
application,
I
think
is
incorrect.
I
would
argue
that
we
shouldn't
be
trying
to
match
or
replicate
a
weather
shield
window.
You
give
me
the
next
slide
is
that
the
last
one
cause
I
sent
you
any
more
here.
D
This
is
the
window
schedule
showing
the
sizes,
the
locations
of
all
the
windows.
I.
Think
the
subsequent
pages
are
all
the
cut
sheets
data
information
required
for
a
window
submittal
showing
that
these
windows
are
insulated
and
UV
rated
and
confirming
that
they're
Helen
Reserve
series
putty
glazed
windows.
D
The
other
thing
that
Carlos
had
asked
me
to
prepare
for
today
is
a
drawing
showing
you
the
difference
between
the
interesting
insert
window.
The
amount
of
glass
shown
relative
to
the
proposed
new
window,
which
again
is
a
landmark
series
approved
for
preservation
window.
The
the
windows
are
taller
of
a
big
glass
area.
Is
there
we
go
the
classier.
The
glass
area
vertically
is
slightly
taller.
The
glass
area
in
width
is
about
two
inches
wider
again,
because
when
you
put
these
windows
in
you
take
out
D
when.
D
In
you
keep
the
frame
when
you
take
an
insert
out
and
you
take
the
frame
out,
you
get
a
larger
window,
the
other,
the
other
difference
between
the
existing
windows,
which
again
is
a
weather
shield
insert
window.
The
Stiles
and
rails
are
disproportionate
to
check
rail
and
the
bottom.
Rail
are
not
tall
enough.
They
don't
match
they,
they
don't
match
what
would
have
been
historic
fabric
for
this
particular
house.
So
we
would
kindly
ask
this
Commission
to
approve
a
landmark
series
window
for
the
replacement
plan
on
this
house
and
I.
Think
that's
that.
A
J
G
E
H
J
J
We're
gonna,
we
have
a
sidewalk
that
currently
goes
to
the
side
of
the
south
side
of
the
garage
and
we're
going
to
leave
the
sidewalk
where
it
is
and
so
the
door
the
new
door
would
be
on
the
yard
side
of
the
garage.
Currently,
the
passage
door
is
on
that
side,
so
we
would
put
the
door
right
where
the
sidewalk
business
and
then
2
windows
as
they
currently
are,
and
that's
about
it.
G
G
G
N
J
That's
why,
anyway,
I
guess
I
didn't
need
to
tell
you
about
the
sidewalk,
but
so
we're
gonna
have
the
door
on
this
side,
as
opposed
to
the
side
where
it
currently
is
so
for
better
access,
because
we're
only
will
have
three
feet
south
of
the
garage.
So
this
will
be
better
access
and
I
think
nicely
balanced
with
the
two
windows,
because
we
currently
have
the
two
windows
there.
G
X
A
G
J
A
G
A
A
H
I
move
that
we
issue
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
2125,
Sherman
Avenue,
for
the
demolition
and
of
the
existing
attached
garage
and
construction
of
new
detached
in
that
constructions.
Standards
1
through
5
7,
8
10
through
14
and
16,
along
with
the
standards
for
demolition
1
through
6,
apply,
and
regarding
zoning.
C
E
AA
AA
Our
objectives
are
twofold:
number
one
is
to
preserve
the
historical
characteristics
of
the
exterior
of
the
home
and
also
to
all
alterations
of
the
exterior
are
to
be
consistent
with
the
home
as
it
stands,
and
new
additions
are
to
blend
into
the
existing
context
of
the
home
as
well,
and
then
on
the
front
page.
We
have
the
existing
photos
of
the
home.
AA
As
you
can
see,
it's
again,
simple
in
design
single
or
a
lap,
siding
wood,
siding
with
front
porch
on
it,
and
then
there
has
been
a
few
additions
over
the
years
on
the
home
from
what
we
can
tell
from
the
original
1892
design.
The
front
porch
was
recessed
into
it.
As
you
can
see,
there's
a
45-degree
angle
on
the
southeast
corner
and
then
on
the
interior
and
the
family
room.
You
can
see
that
there
is
a
window.
AA
As
you
see
on
the
back
of
the
home,
there
is
an
addition
done
with
the
thing
about
30
to
40
years
ago,
a
single-story
addition
on
the
rear
that
we
are
going
to
retain,
but
add
a
second
story,
master
suite
above
that
problems.
Next
slide,
please
for
the
front
of
the
home.
Again,
most
of
the
windows
on
the
home
have
been
replaced.
There
are
some
original
windows
on
the
second
floor.
Those
windows
are
mostly
in
disrepair.
They
are
again
a
wood.
AA
Know
120
year
old
window,
sash
is
falling
out
and
quite
a
bit
of
rot,
they've
been
sealed,
shut
in
most
cases
for
most
homeowner
can
attest
safety
of
the
applicants.
Eps
the
sashes
are
falling
outs.
All
the
windows
on
the
first
floor
have
been
replaced
again
in
that
30
to
40
year
range
window,
a
grill
between
glass
replacement
window.
Our
intention
is
to
replace
all
of
the
windows
of
the
home,
with
the
exception
of
the
windows
in
the
dormer
on
the
attic
level.
They
have
a
diamond
pattern,
the
one
on
as
on
the
front,
rendering.
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The
left
on
the
one
on
the
right
is
more
of
a
cross,
lift
or
some
form
of
prairie
style
and
then
on
the
dormer
on
the
north
side.
Again
we
have
a
original
sort
of
cross,
prairie
style,
grille
pattern.
While
those
are
disrepair,
they
are
unique
to
this
house,
so
our
goal
is
to
retain
those
and
repair
them.
Also
on
the
north
there
in
the
foyer
there
is
a
three
panel
window
that
is
initiated.
We
are
going
to
retain
that
one
as
well.
AA
Also
on
the
front
porch
there
is
a
canopy
in
columns
and
Carl's.
Could
you
flip
back
one
page,
please,
as
you
could
see
in
that
photo
and
further
along
you'll,
see
that
well,
that
is
not
original
to
the
home.
As
far
as
we
can
tell
back
in
the
50s,
we
have
a
photos
showing
it
is
there,
but
again
it
is
somewhat
disproportionate
to
the
rest
of
the
home
and
in
the
style
of
the
house.
Well,
it
is
very
simple:
facade.
Every
detail
counts
every
bit
of
proportion
of
this
front.
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Porch
is
really
going
to
make
a
difference.
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
our
proposal
is
to
beef
that
up
into
making
historically
accurate
in
proportion
and
also
in
detail
and
then
on
the
back
of
the
home.
We
are
proposing
a
second-story
addition
over
the
one-story
addition
that
mimics
the
roof
lines
and
religious
carries
that
single-story
roof
up
to
the
second
floor,
adding
a
mudroom
and
a
back
porch
on
to
the
rear
elevation
and
then
continuing
the
roofline
of
an
of
the
dining
room
bump
out.
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That's
on
the
south
of
it
to
wrap
that
around
and
pick
up
the
railing
detail,
that's
existing
to
the
home
now
and
carry
it
over
the
new
front.
More
from
sir,
the
new
rear
porch
next
slide.
Please
we
included
a
series
of
photos
from
the
neighborhood
again
all
homes
unique
in
their
own
character,
and
ours
will
continue
to
again
carry
that
tradition
throughout
next
slide.
Please
in
this,
you
can
see
how
we
are
just
showing
the
elevation.
Not
much
is
changing
on
the
street
side
elevation.
With
exception
of
the
detailed
front
porch.
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AA
This
is
the
existing
will,
be
North
elevation
and
you
one
item
you
can
see
on
just
above
sort
of
between
the
first
and
second
floor,
there's
sort
of
a
well.
It's
really
an
end
cut
wood
grain
pattern.
That's
existing
that
as
far
back
as
we
could
find
is,
is
the
only
part
of
the
house
where
this
exists
and
it's
not
a
scallop.
It's
really
a
six
by
six,
that's
been
in
cut
and
then
added
in
this
area.
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AA
Here
we
can
see
how
we
are
adding
an
addition
onto
the
second
level
and
then
replacing
the
windows
and
the
slightly
new
configuration
the
dormer
on
the
Attic
level.
We
are
putting
new
windows
in
of
the
larger
of
the
dormers.
The
windows
are
a
little
bit
larger
than,
what's
there
now
to
meet
the
light,
invent
requirements
for
that
attic
space
and
then
the
smaller
dormer
to
the
left.
We
will
rehab
that
window
as
well
as
the
first-floor
window
on
the
left
that
three
panel
will
be
kept,
as
is
as
it
is
in
good
condition.
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AA
And
in
this
one,
showing
the
existing
footprint
and
on
the
next
slide,
you'll
see
the
footprint
that
we're
adding
is
the
rear
portion.
Also
the
mudroom
next
slide,
please
existing
second
floor's
that
sits
now.
If
we
click
to
the
next
one,
you
can
see
where
we
are
reconfiguring.
Quite
a
bit
of
the
second
floor.
The
staircase
had
been
closed
in
over
the
years
to
create
a
large
bedroom.
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24
by
26
I'm,
sorry
for
about
28
garage,
so
just
get
a
larger
garage.
The
garage
is
in
disrepair
right
now,
slabs
cracking
and
we
are
going
to
try
to
mimic
the
aesthetic
of
it
with
copper,
gutters
same
detailing
and
windows
as
well
with
just
a
slightly
larger
garage
to
house,
more
current
vehicles
and
then
next
slide.
Please.
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AA
And
for
the
front
porch,
the
image
that
we
show
is
how
it
sits
right
now,
as
you
can
see
it
is,
it
does
have
lack
of
detail
to
it
and,
like
we
said
there,
our
goal
is
to
keep
the
simplicity
of
the
front
elevation
of
the
home
and
really
with
that
being
said,
the
pieces
that
are
there
need
to
have
details
need
to
be
proportionally
correct.
So
we
used
to
reference
point
from
a
text
that
you
know
we
were
reference
regularly.
It's
called
get
your
home
right.
AA
It
shows
historic
proportions
of
homes
and
again,
I
think
what
they
are
showing
in
that
detail
is
very
similar
to
what
we're
proposing
that
we
do
for
the
new
front.
Porch,
we
are
keeping
the
columns
in
place.
We're
going
to
put
new
column
covers
on
them,
as
those
are
very,
very
simple
and
lack
of
black
detail
and
black
scale
and
then
do
a
new
roof
asphalt,
shingles
to
match.
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AA
So
with
the
Pella
reserved
line,
look
at
this
one
I'm
showing
the
putty
glaze,
but
on
the
inside
it
will
show
that
has
the
og
profile
as
well,
so
we're
looking
to
replicate
the
og
profile
and
then
also-
and
this
is
doing
it
in
white,
but
they
have
a
1
by
4
trim
and
then
what
we're
proposing
is
doing.
The
clad
trim
that
snaps
into
this
window
frame
and
to
replicate
the
sill
profile.
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Really
comes
to
as
far
as
the
blank
wall
space
for
the
master
bedroom,
we
really
wanted
to
emphasize
the
we
needed
or
wall
form
about,
and
that
was
the
wall
we
came
up
with,
because
Ben
wanted
to
really
get
some
natural
light
going
out
to
the
rear
yard.
So
we
did
put
our
windows
there
and
also
to
the
area
overlooking
the
over
the
porch
roof.
We
want
to
get
some
natural
light
in
those
southern
exposures
as
well.
So
that's
where
really
why
we
have
that
blank
wall
up.
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AB
AA
The
back
of
the
house
existing
West
elevation.
We
do
have
a
8
over
8,
that's
original.
As
far
as
we
can
tell
is
original.
We
did
have
our
window
manufacturer
come
out.
Even
look
at
the
you
look
at
the
dormer
windows
on
the
attic
level,
because
there
is
an
inconsistency
between
that
diamond
pattern
and
the
other
pattern
and
from
what
they
can
tell
I
mean
they're
there.
As
he
said,
there
are
all
hundred
plus
year
old
windows.
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AA
Most
of
the
trim
is
in
disrepair.
There
is
quite
a
bit
of
rot
in
there,
especially
at
the
the
sill,
where
the
the
trim
that
meets
the
sill.
So
we
were
wanting
to
actually
peel
that
off
and
then
do
a
proper
window
installation
and
these
and
flash
these
properly
versus
trying
to
go
from
the
inside
and
replace
them
and
thought.
Well,
while
we
were
there,
let's,
let's
do
this
properly.
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V
And
but
you
do
have
those
ones
that
are
on
the
first
floor
in
the
addition
that
are
over
the
ones
so
I
would
maybe
a
clarification
would
be
on
the
front
facade,
that's
very
clear
on
the
side.
Facades
I
would
pick
one
or
the
other
so
that
you
don't
just
move
one
or
two
windows
that
are,
you
know
over
one
and
then
understood
you
may
just
want
to
do
the
same
proportion
of
obviously
agretti,
so
I
think
on
the
proposed
West
elevation.
That's
most
notably,
you
know
it
expressed
with
you.
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A
G
V
Do
my
guys
yeah
so
of
a
record,
you
know
I
moved
to
issue
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
14:26,
Forest
Avenue
for
the
construction
of
a
second-story
addition
at
the
rear
of
the
house
and
an
open
porch.
On
the
first
floor,
the
exterior
alterations
include
the
repair
replacement
in
addition
of
the
windows
on
the
east
north
west
and
south
elevations.
V
We
ask
that,
on
those
elevations,
the
mutton
grid's
are
revised
to
show
a
more
consistent
appearance,
namely
on
the
North
elevation.
The
second
floor
window
perhaps
has
a
similar
pattern
to
the
remaining
proposed
windows.
Same
goes
for
the
proposed
West
elevation
at
the
first
floor
and
then
on
the
proposed
South
elevation
on
the
first
floor
at
the
Judy
can.
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AA
All
right
and
just
to
clarify
it
again.
At
least
the
thought
process
was
behind
it,
considering
like
front
elevation,
since
we
had
all
the
double
lungs
in
that
area
and
those
windows
being
towards
the
front
of
the
house
to
try
to
keep
visual
consistency
from
that
front
view.
That's
why
I
did
go
with
the
double
hung
there
instead
of
encasement.
Well,
then
kept
the
caissons
towards
the
rear
of
property.
To
try
to
you
know,
keep
consistency
in
view,
so
that
was
the
thought
process
behind
that,
but
I
mean
I
completely.
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V
S
V
Is
a
solo
window
double
hung
in
my
opinion,
I
think
it
should
probably
reflect
the
Mont
engraved
on
the
top
both
for
such
and
the
lower.
So
if
anyone
else
has
any
other
opinions
know
if
you
are
willing
to
make
that
change,
if
that's
doesn't
okay,
so
that
will
be
one
on
the
proposed
West
elevation
Diana.
Do
you
have
an
issue
with
those
five
windows
being
open
on
the
bottom?
Alright,
I
would
notice.
I
would
like
to
see
with
big
money
grids,
so
those
would
be
the
nine
over
nine
right.
Okay
for
the
West.
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V
Remain
West
will
remain
as
a
so
right
now
it's
just
the
one
window
on
the
north
and
then
the
proposed
South
I
understand
that
you
were
saying
that
the
windows
that
come
around
the
corner
now
on
the
front
facade
those
windows
that
come
around
the
corner.
Are
they
in
the
same
plane
as
the
whole
South
elevation,
say.
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S
Okay,
so
my
name
is
William
James
I
am
member
of
Bretton
Partners,
LLC,
owner
the
property
and
developer
of
this
property
and
two
others
on
Trident
place,
and
so
I
will
be
leading
the
presentation
and
they
will
be
assisting
at
various
points.
So
this
is
the
the
outline
of
what
I
want
to
present,
starting
with
diamond
design
direction.
The
architectural
plan,
site
plan,
landscape
plan
of
building
materials
of
the
standards
and
a
summary
so
College
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
the
design
direction
for
this
new
house
is
based
on
bio
feedback.
S
I've
gotten
on
my
two
prior
houses,
the
one
in
the
corner
of
s
Barry
and
Dempster,
and
the
one
directly
to
the
east,
which
is
known
as
1244
Dryden
place.
So
the
lots
are
a
little
bit
frankly
awkward
in
their
size.
When
you
put
a
decent
sized
house
on
them,
there's
not
a
lot
of
yard
left
over.
There
was
a
lot
of
pushback
from
prospective
buyers
on
that
point,
there's
no
yard
the
area
between
the
house
and
Dempster's
feet.
People
don't
see
that
as
a
viable
yard.
S
They,
which
leads
to
the
next
point,
Dempster
Street,
is
very
much
a
negative
and
the
design
for
this
house
is
really
intended
to
mitigate
that
negative
and
I
got
so
many
comments
that
people
preferred
a
contemporary
design
to
the
house
rather
than
a
traditional
design.
So
those
are
really
the
three
points
of
design
direction,
and
so,
as
you
can
see
with
this,
drawing
which
is
the
landscape
plan
and
the
eastern
most
lot,
which
is
the
12:22
address,
is
used
for
the
house
and
the
locket
to
the
west,
which
was
twelve.
S
Thirty-Two
is
used
for
the
larger
the
yard
area,
and
so
this
addresses
a
response
to
the
no
yard
issue
and
the
next
slide
Carlos
the
design
of
the
house.
The
floor
plan
is
such
that
it
works
with
the
landscape
plan
and
the
open
space
to
the
west.
The
yard
area
to
the
west,
with
a
patio
adjoining
the
west
wall
of
the
house,
to
create
a
very
distinctive
sense
of
place
through
a
sculptural
element
that
I
call
the
water
wall,
and
you
can
see
examples
of
the
kind
of
thing
I'm
thinking
about.
S
So
in
terms
of
the
preference
for
contemporary
design,
you
know
all
my
22
houses
are
built
in
Evanston.
The
past
were
traditional
houses.
You
can
see
that
three
of
them
across
the
bottom
there,
but
I,
really
believe
that
buyers
today
prefer
contemporary
I
think
we
live
in
a
tank,
techno,
centric
kind
of
society
right
now,
technology
is
celebrated.
It
permeates
all
of
our
lifestyles
where
we
socialize
the
way
we
consume,
entertainment
and
I.
S
Think
people
want
to
see
it
in
architecture
in
the
place
that
they
live
both
in
terms
of
the
form
and
the
materials
that
are
used
so
I
would
like
to
pursue
contemporary
design
and
really
the
latest
form
of
contemporary
design.
Postmodern
is
what
I
would
call
it
where
different
planes
of
the
building
are
clad
in
different
types
of
materials,
and
it
creates
a
very
kind
of
geometric
kind
of
style.
S
There
are
two
other
points
of
egress
along
that
west
wall,
one
for
the
dining
room
and
one
for
the
kitchen
so
that
there
will
be
opportunities
for
actually
I'm
cooking
after
eating
and
actually
outdoor
living
room
along
that
patio
along
the
west.
The
garage
faces
north
and
there
is
a
a
small
driveway,
not
enough
cars,
but
enough
to
facilitate
movement
in
and
out
of
the
garage.
S
It
has
some
richness
and
materials
that
has
some
some
softness,
some
inviting
aspects
to
it.
So
it's
combination
of
wood,
natural
stone,
fiber
board
panels
and
aluminum
for
overhangs
and
and
soffits,
and
obviously
the
the
window
surrounds,
would
be
clad
in
aluminum
as
well.
So
this
is
the
West
elevation
and
the
entrance
would
be
toward
the
left-hand
side
of
the
ground
floor
there.
S
The
next
slide
shows
the
South
oblation
South
elevation
facing
Dempster
Street
and
again
we
see
a
mix
of
materials
here,
the
the
fiber
board,
which
would
be
the
large
microwave
panels.
The
center
would
be
a
projecting
two-foot
bay,
and
that
would
be
clad
in
aluminum,
followed
by
wood
to
the
left
and
stone
in
that
left
and
left
portion
there.
S
S
S
In
terms
of
the
site
and
the
landscape
plan,
so
we
see
the
same
thing
again
in
the
middle.
Drawing
there
would
be
a
significant
effort
to
screen
Dempster
as
the
other
houses
along
this
block
of
Dempster
Street
do
will
be
a
significant
grassy
lawn
area
along
the
western
side
of
the
property.
There
would
be
a
significant
outdoor
patio
adjacent
to
the
building
on
the
west
side
and
again,
dried
in
place,
which
is
a
private
private
street,
is
to
the
north,
and
it
is
actually
part
of
the
lot
area.
S
Existing
vegetation
is
to
the
north
of
Dryden
place
and
on
the
right-hand
side
we
can
see
a
blow-up
of
the
connection
between
the
house
and
the
yard
area
with
the
outdoor
patio,
the
water
wall
at
the
south
end
of
that
patio.
That
would
be
richly
landscaped,
and
you
can
see
an
example
of
a
water
wall
on
the
left-hand
side
of
the
screen,
with
landscaping
in
front
and
behind
it.
S
So
building
materials
as
represented
on
the
elevations,
it
would
be
a
mix
of
materials,
a
combination
of
natural
materials
such
as
wood
and
stone
and
higher
tech,
materials,
federal
board
and
in
metal
panels.
And
so
we
see
examples
of
these
I
actually
have
products
with
me
that
I
can
can
show
you
on
the
wood.
I
would
like
the
wood
to
be
planks,
not
large-scale
panels,
so
that
it
frankly
looks
more
like
actual
natural
wood
rather
than
you
know,
manufactured
product.
S
So
it
would
be
the
look
of
the
image
on,
on
the
left
hand,
side
versus
the
right
hand,
side.
We
use
natural
stone,
I'm
planning
on
doing
a
dry
set
stone,
which
I
think
is
frankly
a
more
modern
look
and
actually
I
think
accents
the
shape
of
the
individual
stones.
More
than
a
mortar
mortar
look
metal
panels,
I
mean
ours
will
be
darker,
not
lighter,
but
you
get
the
the
character
of
the
panels
from
that
image
and
then
the
fiber
board
panels.
S
S
There
would
be
joints
accented
in
all
of
the
panels
so
that
you
know
it
really
accentuates
the
form
of
the
materials,
so
that
is
I
think
how
we
are
going
to
carry
out
the
design
concept
through
the
use
of
materials,
and
so
I
have
actually
in
the
materials
that
you
have
addressed
each
of
the
standards
individually,
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
should
go
through
each
of
them
individually.
I,
don't
think
I.
S
S
And
I
should
mention
one
thing
with
respect
to
the
tool
on
so
there
is
I
found
this
out.
Actually,
after
I
was
working
with
a
set
of
buyers
on
the
previous
plant,
there
is
a
utility
easement
that
runs
along
at
common
lot
line
that
provides
utilities
to
the
mansion,
and
so
it
would
be
very
difficult
to
position
the
house.
You
know
in
a
way
that
crosses
that
easement.
So
we,
the
house,
needs
to
be
kind
of
self-contained
on
that
one
lot
and
the
other
lot
would
be
used
for
yard.
AB
You
can
see
the
actual
site
outline
here.
That's
the
two
different
sites
and
the
red
right
here
is
the
setback
line.
So
it's
because
this
is
the
front
so
we're
30
feet
back.
We've
got
five
foot
setback
on
the
west
lot:
five
foot
setback
on
the
east
section,
the
building
itself,
though,
however,
it
is
five
feet
from
the
split,
so
this
building
can
stand
away
itself
from
the
Lots.
AB
S
A
S
AB
S
A
T
A
T
T
I
put
into
a
letter
that
was
submitted
to
to
Carlos
today
for
him
to
to
share
I.
Think
a
lot
of
what's
in.
There
is
not
necessarily
in
the
purview
of
this
commission,
so
I
wasn't
really
planning
on
formally
presenting
all
of
that,
but
I
guess
I
wanted
to
address
a
couple
of
things,
and
some
of
the
conversation
here
bears
on
that
the
zoning
staff
has
judged.
The
current
proposal
is
compliant
with
respect
to
the
building
life
coverage
in
the
impervious
service
coverage
ratios
by
considering
both
Lots
together.
T
Yet
the
proposal,
the
application,
makes
very
clear.
These
are
two
separate
Lots.
There
are
two
separate
Lots
in
the
definition
of
parcels
to
pens
they're,
also
designed
or
described
in
the
application
as
to
zoning.
What
which
would
suggest
that,
even
from
a
zoning
perspective,
they're
they're
separate
entities,
the
construction
that's
proposed
here
as
you'll
see
was
described,
is
in
the
the
house
is
entirely
on
the
lot
next
to
us
and
maintains
the
five-foot
setbacks
on
both
sides,
because
it's
it's
all
contained
within
that
one.
T
C
T
My
way
outside
of
it,
let
me
burn,
and
let
me
just
make
the
point
whether
we
argue
about
exactly
where
it
is
with
the
size
of
the
house.
The
house
is
15
percent
bigger
than
any
other
house
in
the
subdivision.
I
think
it's
rather
revealing
that
the
first
three
comparative
examples
in
the
proposal
are
a
synagogue
across
the
street
crossed
under
the
Unitarian
Church,
which
is
not
even
in
the
subdivision
and
the
Dryden
mansion.
It
is
much
bigger
than
any
of
the
other
houses
that
are
single-family
residence
in
the
subdivision
on
a
similar
sized
lot.
T
Y
T
The
Lots
are
not
combined,
it
raises
you,
there's
nothing
permanent
on
the
west
lot
and
a
future
owner
somewhere
down
the
road
could
be
led
to
believe
or
could
come
to
his
own
conclusion
that
that's
seventy
two
thousand
seventy
two
hundred
square
foot
separate
lot
described
as
12:30
to
Dryden
or
twelve
well,
I
think
that's!
The
number
could
be
buildable
when
the
city
might
say
no.
Somebody
might
buy
under
a
different
perspective,
so
we
made
some
requests
there.
We
have
some
other
concerns
about
the
nature
of
Dryden
place.
T
The
fact
that
it's
paver
brick
and
is
certainly
going
to
be
disrupted
by
the
construction
and
who's
responsible
for
fixing
that
it
is
an
issue
but
I
did
want
to
mention
the
size
issue
and
the
fact
that,
as
it
relates
to
being
right
next
to
us,
I
mean
I,
understand
the
notion
of
the
overall
Gestalt
of
the
space.
But
as
it
relates
to
us,
it's
putting
a
very
large
home
bigger
than
ours.
I
was
right.
T
A
C
G
G
G
A
G
A
C
A
A
Overall
I
have
no
issues
with
the
design
per
se.
My
concern
is
that
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
different
materials
they're
competing
on
all
of
the
facades
and
some
of
them
don't
necessarily
make
sense
to
me
and
that's
I,
think
if
it
was
simplified
a
little
bit
in
my
mind
you
know
maybe
I
don't
know
if
it
means
less
variation
and
the
number
of
materials
I
don't
know
if
it.
L
S
S
Sorry
Nate,
you
know,
probably
you
know,
drill
holes
in
me
because
this
is
but
but
I
want
this
to
be.
You
know
an
example
of
excellence
in
contemporary
design
and
I
want
it
to
be
distinctive
I
wanted
to
be.
Obviously
it
has
to
be
right
for
a
person
who
wants
contemporary,
but
for
that
person.
I
want
this
to
be
an
excellent
excellent
example.
A
A
AB
AB
S
A
V
V
I
think
I
mean
standards,
like
the
proportion
of
the
openings
of
rhythms
of
the
solids
deployed.
I
understand
what
you
guys
are
saying,
with
the
design
that
I
understand
Nate,
what
you're
saying
with
your
design,
but
I
haven't
really
heard
any
conversation
about
how
it
relates
to
the
buildings
next
to
it.
Okay,
so
this
building
and
in
this
home
I'm
sure
would
be
fantastic
in
another
setting,
but
in
a
historic
district
it
really
needs
to
tie
in
what's
next,
so
it
has
some
great
models.
Next
to
it.
AB
AB
V
V
I
I
think
it
really
starts
to
detract
from
the
houses
that
are
to
the
east
and
the
West
that
have
a
very
strong
rhythm
of
punched
windows,
and
then
this
elevation
specifically
does
not
have
that
rhythm.
I
think
that
that
really
needs
to
start
to
better
address
that
context.
I
understand
that
you
want
to
that.
The
one
across
the
street
meets
your
contemporary
design,
but
unfortunately
you
have
to
address
the
entire
context,
not
just
the
one.
That
is
the
easiest
for
you
to
address.
So.
S
R
AB
N
AB
S
So
one
thing
I
wanted
was
to
have
frankly
richer
materials
on
the
planes
where
people
would
actually
come
up
next
to
it.
Okay,
so
I
wanted,
would
I
wanted
stone
really
on
the
lower
level
of
that
whole
western
elevation,
and
so
you
know,
there's
a
it
is
a
break
up
materials.
Actually,
we
could
frankly
extend
the
the
soffit
material
along
that
native,
if
that
helps
to
create
a
greater
rationale
for
break
up
materials.
S
I
think
that
would
be
a
useful
kind
of
detail,
and
let
me
also
if
I
can
go
back
and
address
your
point
about
how
the
specific
a
context
here
of
the
homes
in
the
the
resub
division
are
more
important
than
the
other
homes
in
the
area.
Okay,
I
mean
I,
I,
know
where
you're
coming
from
on
that.
So
there
are
one
two
three
four
existing
homes.
This
would
be
the
fifth
okay,
the
one
on
Asbury
the
most
recent
one
is
frankly,
very
contemporary.
A
S
I
mean
it's
I,
think
it's
an
excellent
design.
Myself
I
mean
it's
not
something
I
would
have.
This
is
my
first
contemporary
house
and
then
there's
a
on
the
corner
is
a
Georgian
style
and
next
to
that
is
a
Italianate
style
and
then
on
the
corner
is
kind
of
a
modern
version
of
prairie
style.
Okay,
so,
and
so
three
of
those
homes
have
kind
of
regular
placement
of
windows,
and
things
like
that,
I
think
this
is
asymmetrical.
S
If
you
look
at
kind
of
the
total
of
the
of
the
fenestration,
the
spaces
and
voyage
I
think
it
would
compare
with
the
other
houses
in
terms
of
the
total
proportion.
They
are
not,
you
know
symmetrical,
they
don't
have
the
same
rhythm,
but
that
is
a
function
frankly
of
the
style
and
if
the
style
is
not
a.
S
S
AB
T
A
Q
S
Q
Q
Q
N
A
S
A
C
A
C
M
V
V
Specifically
has
to
be
compatible
in
size,
scale,
color,
material
character
and
property
in
the
standard,
neighborhood
and
environment.
So
there's
a
lot
that
has
to
be
chewed
off
there
and
I
think
that
it
would
be
very
helpful
if,
when
this
comes
back,
those
items
are
very
specifically
I
know
included
some
of
them,
but
for
the
immediate
vicinity
buildings
it
has
to
be
very
clear
how
it
is
being
compatible
with
those
entities.
Those
other
buildings.