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Referrals Committee - May 12th, 2022
A
A
I'm
great,
I
am
great,
it
is
summertime
and
the
sun
is
shining,
and
you
know
this
meeting
is
being
recorded.
So
I
have
no
need
to
talk
about
my
you
know:
crippling
anxieties.
A
A
A
A
Well,
this
is
going
to
be
amazing.
This
is
going
to
test
our
our
track
record
of
unanimous
votes
if
we
lack
anonymity,
it's
going
to
be
a
calamity
this
morning.
Oh
all
right,
oh
actually,
speaking
of
calamities,
probably
would
have
been
the
right
thing
for
me
to
pull
up
the
agenda
before
this
began.
A
C
A
I'm
also
here,
oh
sorry,
now
councilmember
severn,
so
with
two
members
present
we
have
a
forum
and
are
prepared
to
do
our
work.
The
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
public
comment.
Is
there
any
member
of
the
public
in
the
zoom
seeking
to
give
a
comment?
If
so
use
the
raise
your
hand
function
or
since
there's
only
one
of
you
just
convince
yourself
and
make
them
giving
hillary
comment
seeing
none
we
move
on
to
the
next
item
on
our
agenda,
which
is
approval
of
minutes.
C
A
I
second
so
council
member
available's
approval
of
the
april
26
meeting
minutes
mayor
bis
seconds.
Any
discussions
seeing
none
council
member
revell.
C
A
The
minutes
are
approved,
and
this
brings
us
to
the
actual
purpose
of
our
time
here,
which
is
the
review
and
scheduling
of
referrals.
By
my
count,
we
have
kind
of
three
different
types
of
referrals.
There
is
one
referral,
an
old
referral
on
the
active
referrals
tab
of
our
referral
spreadsheet.
In
fact,
I
think
it's
row
22
of
the
actual
referrals
tab
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
A
There
are,
I
believe,
six
referrals
on
the
new
referrals
form
tab
of
our
spreadsheet.
That
need
to
be
addressed.
I
think
that
would
be
rows
8
through
13.,
and
then
there
are
two
other
referrals
that
were
made
late
enough
last
night
that
I,
I
suppose
clerk
mendoza,
just
you
know
had
literally
no
work
out
was
just
not
at
work
at
all
between
when
they
were
made
and
now
and
so
was
unable
to
add
them
to
the
spreadsheet.
A
B
I
believe
clerk
mendoza
needs
to
like
approve
them
for
them
to
kind
of
come
through,
and
so
I
saw
those
come
in
last
night.
I
think
they're
going
to
have
to
wait
for
the
next
meeting.
A
Oh,
no,
no,
no,
there's
two
different
issues:
there's
the
there's
a
technology
issue,
which
is
because
the
referrals
form
is
not
like
a
password-protected
thing
that
only
the
council
has
it's
just
out
there
in
the
world.
We
don't
want.
You
know
for
reasons
of
spam
and
abuse
and
the
like.
We
don't
want
a
a
referral
to
appear
on
the
spreadsheet
when
it's
made.
We
just
want
a
human
being
to
look
at
it
and
make
sure
it's
a
real
referral
from
an
actual
elected
official
before
it
appears
in
the
spreadsheet.
A
That's
that's
clerk
mendoza's
job
and
I
think
that's
the
right
technology
solution
to
the
problem.
You
know
I
mean
we've,
given
the
zoom
bombings,
we've
seen
in
ward
meetings.
I
don't
think
we
want
to
have
a
completely.
A
That
has
the
n-word
in
it,
for
example,
given
what
I've
seen
and
yeah
I
mean
it's,
it's
like
I've.
There's
been
really
vulgar.
You
know
graphic
sexual
hateful
things
that
have
appeared
in
one
of
these
zoom
bombings
and
board
meetings,
and
so
to
have
it
show
up
on
the
official
city
website,
as
a
referral
made
by
councilmember.
Revell
is
not
something
we
want.
I
think,
okay,
so
the
process
just
having
it
just
having
a
question
does
have
to
click
a
button
after
having
verified.
Oh
this
looks.
A
Real,
I
think,
is
a
is
a
good
process.
The
question
that
we're
posed
with
in
this
moment
is:
do
we
want
for
the
purposes
of
transparency?
I
mean
we
could
go
ahead
and
refer
those
you
know,
discuss
them
and
refer
them,
but
for
the
purpose
of
transparency,
do
we
want
to
establish
a
policy
that
something
that's
not
literally
appeared
on
the
spreadsheet
before
the
meeting
begins
doesn't
get
taken
up?
That's
the
only
question.
A
They're
certainly
legitimate,
there's
no
question
about
that
and
you
know
to
make
matters
a
little
bit
more
confusing
one
of
them.
I
think
really
kind
of
needs
to
be
discussed
together
with
line
eight
right.
There's
two
different
reparations,
related
referrals
from
the
same
council
member
and
I
do
think,
that's
valuable.
A
So
I
guess,
if
you're
saying
we
just
go
ahead
and
and
act
on
them
as
long
as
kelly
doesn't
think,
there's
any
kind
of
you
know
technical
problem
with
that
from
a
you
know,
notice
or
open
meetings,
act
or
whatever
standpoint,
I'm
comfortable
going
ahead.
If
that's
your
preference
kelly,
do
you
do
you
want
to
weigh
in
on
that.
A
Well,
look,
I
think
it's
fine
for
us
to
go
ahead
in
this
case,
but
we
should.
We
should
seek
clarity
going
forward
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
enclosed
any
boundaries
on
this,
but
I
guess
since
the
well
hold
on.
Let
me
go
to
the
agenda.
A
Well,
let's
just
decide
this
and
move
on
since
we're
halfway
through
the
conversation,
members
of
the
committee
shall
review
the
list
of
referrals
made
to
date,
which
includes
the
ones
the
two
last
ones,
but
then
it
says
available
online
here
with
a
link
to
the
spreadsheet.
I
think
I
would
argue
just
let
that
we
wait
until
they've
appeared.
A
C
A
All
right,
so
the
the
first.
The
old
item
is
line
22
on
the
tracker,
which
is
council
member,
reads:
referral
to
ban
water,
water
shutoffs.
That
was
made
no
typo
july
20th
of
last
year
and
the
the
reason
that
it's
reappearing
now
is
you
know,
councilman
reid
had
the
suggestion
you
may
remember.
If
your
recollection
of
these
things
is
uncanny,
that
we
we
talked
about
it
and
you
know
I
was
directed
to
go
back
to
council
member
reid
and
kind
of
ask
him
some
follow-up
questions
about.
A
You
know
how
he
would
what
his
view
is
of
a
couple
different
options,
those
conversations
kind
of
petered
out.
We
never
landed
anywhere
and
therefore
I
never
came
back
to
the
committee
and
said:
hey.
Let's
refer
this
in
the
meantime
now
for
several
meetings
in
a
row,
staff
has
sought
to
put
something
on
the
agenda
dealing
with
water,
shut-offs
and
I've
said
well,
but
the
it's
not
been
referred.
We
can't
do
that.
A
So
I
think
it's
clearly
time
for
us
to
refer
this
and
I
would
recommend
we
just
refer
to
apw
and
encourage
them
to
take
it
up
now,
because
that's
been
both
council
member
reed
and
staff's
preference
here.
A
Okay,
so
how's
my
rebel
move
that
we
refer,
the
water
shot
off
referral
line,
22
of
the
active
referrals,
tab
of
our
spreadsheet
to
the
administration
and
public
works
committee,
with
the
recommendation
that
they
hear
it
at
their
next
meeting.
There
have
been
seconds.
Is
there
any
discussions,
saying
none
councilmember
revell?
A
I
vote
I
and
with
two
voting
in
favor
and
voting
against
the
motion
passes
and
that
recommendation
will
be
delivered
to
the
chair
and
staff
of
the
administration
and
public
works
committee.
A
And
I
suppose
we
might
as
well
go
in
chronological
order,
beginning
with
line
eight.
So
this
is
council
member
reid's
referral
to
amend
the
reparations
program
to
allow
direct
cash
payments
to
recipients.
C
Allison
has
a
has
a
comment.
Sorry.
B
I
just
want
to
clarify,
I
think
you
misspoke,
you
said
that
we're
going
to
move
to
the
active
referrals,
we're
actually
going
to
move
to
the
new
referrals
form
just
for
anybody
following
sorry.
A
A
You
know
portion
of
the
reparations
program
to
allow
direct
cash
payments,
which
obviously
should
be
discussed
at
the
reparations
committee,
and
you
know
I
think,
actually
it's
an
extremely
healthy
discussion.
I
don't
know
if
the
same
is
true
for
you,
council
member
avail.
A
I
have
been
hearing
all
sorts
of
different
rumors
dribbling
out
about
what
the
operations
committee
has
in
mind
for
the
next
tranche
of
of
of
of
support
and-
and
I
think
it'd
be
really
great
for
the
public
discussion
you
know
about-
what's
what's
next
and
and
and
for
the
proposal
that
that
some
people
feel
very
passionately
about
to
include
cash
payments
in
that
to
be
to
you
on
that,
you
know
to
be
a
center
stage
in
that
discussion
and-
and
you
know
to
go
through
both
the
programmatic
and
you
know,
legal
questions
around
that.
A
But
then
you
get
to
column
h
in
this
entry
and
it
says
that
the
budget
implication
is
a
10
million
dollar
transfer
to
the
reparations
fund
which
right
this
seems
like
an
issue
for
the
budget
and
finance
committee.
So
we
kind
of
have
it
we're
kind
of
confronted
with
the
choice
here.
C
Well,
I
hadn't
quite
focused
on
that
second
part
there.
It
seems
to
me
that
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
at
the
very
beginning
about
whether
cash
payments,
whether
or
not
to
make
cash
payments,
because
I
think
there
was
this-
the
understanding
that
that
would
be
taxable
income,
and
so
I
think
that
the
everybody
wanted
to
avoid
that
so
yeah.
So
the
whole
question
would
have
to
go
back
to
the
reparations
committee
and
get
some
legal
advice
about.
C
You
know
what
the
implications
for
that
would
be,
and
I
guess
so
that
part
would
go
to
the
reparations
committee.
I
mean
the
idea
of
of
an
actual
dollar
amount
should
go,
I
guess
to
budget
and
finance.
So
I
it's
it's
a
two-part
referral.
A
Here
I
agree
with
that
completely.
I
would
add
that,
in
my
opinion,
the
parts
sequence
naturally
in
other
words,
I
think
the
question
of
do
we
want
to
do
this,
precedes
the
question
of
how
much
money
do
we
want
to
spend
on
it.
So
my
own
inclination
is
send
it
to
the
reparations
committee,
not
with
the
notion
that
they
would
say.
A
Okay,
you
know
we're
going
to
do
this
and
we
need
10
million
dollars
moved
over
to
the
representations
fund
immediately,
but
rather
that
they
they
really
grapple
with
the
question
of
where
are
they
on
this
specific
proposal
and
then
also
more
generally?
What's
next
kelly,
you
switched
your
camera
on
and
then
off
against
us
sorry,
I
was
filibustering.
D
No,
I
was
just
agreeing
with
councilmember
ravel
when
I
was
corporation
council.
This
issue
came
up
and
the
idea
of
cash
payments
is
problematic
for
tax
reasons
and
other
reasons
as
well.
A
Yeah,
so
it
seems
like
having
a
whole
discussion
about
the
budget
implications
before
actually
putting
the
proposal
you
know
deciding.
If
the
proposal
makes
it
to
that
stage,
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense.
I
mean
I
would
I
would
say
you
should
go
through
operations
committee
and
that
would
and
that's.
C
B
C
A
Exactly
okay,
so
then
we
have
to
think
about
timeline,
and
I
I
mean:
where
are
what
day?
Is
it
it's
the
well?
So
so
the
reparations
committee
met
last
week
and
they
meet
in
early
early
in
each
month,
kelly
and
al
or
allison
do
either
one
of
you
have
any
idea
kind
of
how
crowded
their
agendas
are.
A
C
Based
on
some
of
the
media
report
about
their
last,
I
think
they
were
talking
about
the
idea
that
the
ancestors
are
getting
on
in
years,
and
time
is
running
out
to
provide
the
repair
to
that
group.
And
so
that's
you
know.
So
there
is
kind
of
the
question
about
how
that's
that's
more
of
the
funding
part
rather
than
the
how
what
type
of
funding
it
should
be.
A
A
D
A
A
They've
got
to
figure
out
an
answer
that
they
believe
in
and
can
stand
behind
and
support
and
then
persuade
counsel
to
to
vote
on
yeah
before
we
even
know
who
gets
the
next
check.
Yeah.
C
Right,
well,
I
I
would
think
they're,
probably
their
agenda
is
ready
ready
for
this
issue
where
they're
kind
of
circling
around
it
already
right,
probably
so
I
I
think
I
I
would
move
that
we
forward
this
item
to
the
reparations
committee
and
asked
that
it
be
on
the
agenda
for
their
next
meeting.
A
I
second
that
so
council
member
revell
moves
that
row.
Eight
of
the
new
referrals
form
tab
of
our
spreadsheet.
You
refer
to
the
preparations
committee
with
the
recommendations
be
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
meeting
mayor
best
seconds
their
discussion
and
seeing
none
councilmember.
C
A
D
C
I
I
didn't
go
ahead
and
score
it.
I
gave
it
a
three
for
time
sensitivity.
A
two
four,
whatever
two
is
two
is
scope,
three,
a
one
for
connection
to
existing
policy,
a
three
for
community
interest
and
a
two
or
a
three
for
goals
and
priorities.
A
A
C
D
It's
not
that
complicated
something
we
looked
at
new
before.
D
C
D
I
think
that's
a
good
idea,
but
also
health
or
human
services
might
be
another
services
might
be
the
better
place
to
take
it
just
because
of
the
feelings
behind
it.
Yeah.
C
A
You
know
we
need
a
committee
on
advice,
yeah,
exactly
councilmember
suffered
and
pushing
for
for
video
gaming
too
yeah
there
we
go
well.
I
could
I
mean
if
somebody
doesn't
sit
in
either
of
those
committees
and
completely
understands
the
argument
for
either
one.
I
have
no
reference
to
you.
Do
you
a
council
member.
C
Well,
I
do
think,
given
that
the
the
real
discussion
around
it
is
going
to
be
more
of
the
health
impact
aspect
it
does.
It
does
seem
like
sending
it
to
human
health
and
human
services
makes
sense.
A
Okay,
great
and
how
kelly
or
allison
do
you
know
how
sort
of
how
or
maybe
are
you
the
chair
right
now,
councilmember,
I'm.
C
No
longer
the
chair,
but
there's
there
are
a
ton
of
things
waiting
in
the
wings
for
human
services
because
we
have.
We
have
council
members,
reads
the
rest
of
his
packet
of
crime
related
amendments.
We
still
have
the
noise
ordinance
coming
back,
and
so
I
would
say
we
could
put
it
on
the
agenda
january
march
april
may
june.
A
Great,
so
do
you
want
to
make
that
motion.
A
My
second
so
council,
member
of
elements
that
row
nine
of
the
new
referrals
tab
be
referred
to
human
services,
with
the
recommendation
that
it
appeared
on
the
agenda
during
the
third
quarter
of
2022
mirabis
seconds
in
a
discussion.
Seeing
none
councilmember
bell.
C
A
I
vote
aye
and
two
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
this
motion
passes
and
the
item
is
julie
referred,
so
we
now
have
four
items
left
that
are
all
referrals.
These
are
rows
10
through
13
of
the
new
referrals
form
tab.
A
These
are
all
referrals
from
council
member
burns,
proposing
very,
very
specific
adjustments
to
parking.
You
know
creating
free
parking
on
a
particular
block
and
imposing
to
our
limits
on
a
different
particular
block
and
and
so
forth,
and
I
have
to
confess
to
just
having
been
sort
of
just
not
being
up
to
speed
on
how
we
ordinarily
handle
this
kind
of
situation.
A
C
Well,
the
last
time
that
I
remember
this
just
because
it
happened
in
the
seventh
ward
was
back
when
we
had
a
transportation
and
parking
committee,
and
but
first
first
there
were
lots
of
months
of
conversation
with
mike
rivera.
There
was
there
were
neighborhood
meetings.
C
I
think
we
and
we
did
a
postcard
survey
to
basically
see
whether
the
residents
did
want
to
make
this
change
to
the
parking
regulations
on
their
block,
and
once
all
of
that
was
in
place,
then
then
it
came
to
the
transportation
and
parking
committee
and
they
said,
sounds
good
and
then
it
went
on
to
counsel.
C
So
we've,
of
course
eliminated
that
committee.
I
would
think
that
whole
conversation
with
neighbors
part
is
still
very
important.
C
D
A
He
says
yes
right,
he
says
you
know
he
describes
stakeholder
meeting
in
late
2021.
I
guess
he
says
it
for
all
of
them.
Yeah.
C
C
So
if
so,
if
we
send,
if
we
forwarded
it
to
ambw,
then
mike
rivera
would
prepare
a
memo
that
would
outline
the
steps
that
had
been
taken
to
determine
that
there
was
neighborhood
interest
and
support.
C
A
Right
so
our
two
choices
are
just
to
do
that
or
to
kind
of
loop
back
with
him
and
and
ask
if,
if
you
know
he's
confident-
and
the
other
thing
that's
slightly
odd
about
this-
is
that
these
these
engagements
happen
in
2021,
and
here
we
are
in
may
oh.
B
A
So
I
mean
I
could
go
either
way,
but
I
don't
know
allison.
Do
you
have
thoughts
about
me
reaching
out
to
councilmember
burns
and
or
mike
for
that
matter,
just
to
just
just
kind
of
see
how
how
much
engagement
is
done
compared
to
what
people
are
used
to
and
whether
it's
sort
of
ready.
B
I
think
that
it's
worth
just
referring
and
then
I
can
go
ahead
and
do
that
work
and
then
you
don't
have
to
come
back
and
refer
it.
If
it's
ready,
they
can
hear
it
whenever
and
if
it's
not
ready,
then
they
can
push
it
to
a
later
meeting
right.
A
The
recommendation
isn't
binding,
so
that's
fine,
yeah,
okay,
that's
fine!
Council
member.
Do
you
have
thoughts
about
what
timeline
we
would
we
would?
We
would
extremely
tentatively
recommend
well.
C
We're
practically
in
the
third
quarter
anyway,
I
I
have
it
seems
like
a
pw
agenda
is
always
humongous,
but
I
absolutely
packed
the
bills
yeah.
So
I
would
say
third
quarter
would
be
the
soonest
we'd
encourage
them
to
consider
this.
Does
that
sound
about.
A
Right,
it
does
sound
about
right
and
you
know
we're
it's
not
that
long
for
now,
as
you
indicate,
but
it's
it's
a
long
enough
window,
I
mean
there's,
there's
six
ampw
meetings
in
the
third
quarter
and
so
yeah
it
leaves
you
know
it
leaves
time
for
them
to
to
figure
out
the
right.
The
right,
pacing
right.
A
All
right,
councilman
ravel,
moves
that
rows.
10
through
13
of
the
new
referrals
form
tab
of
our
spreadsheet
all
be
referred
to
the
administration
and
public
works
committee,
with
the
recommendation
that
they
appear
on
the
agenda
sometime
during
the
third
quarter
of
2022
mayor
best
seconds.
Is
there
a
discussion
seeing
none
councilmember
revell.
C
A
I
also
vote
aye,
so
two
voting
in
favor
and
voting
against
the
motion
passes
and
the
four
items
are
all
duly
referred,
and
I
think
we
have
nothing
else
to
discuss
at
this
time.
Is
that
right,
yeah
right?
So
our
next
meeting
is
in
two
weeks
on
may
26th
kelly.
You
just
switched
your
camera
on.
Did
you
get
something
on
dad.
D
I
was
just
saying
goodbye.
A
All
right
well,
thank
you
very
much
all
we.
We
ran
the
gauntlet
of
having
an
even
number
of
people
on
the
committee
with
no
deadlocks,
no
bitter
fights.
No,
you
know
we
were
not
just
staring
at
each
other
and
and
confusion
about
what
to
do
next
at
a
single
time,.
B
A
Congratulations,
and
with
that
the
may
12th
meeting
of
the
referrals
committee
with
no
further
items
to
take
up
stands
adjourned.
Okay,
everybody.