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D
E
A
I'm
here
so,
if
we
have
a
forum,
we
can
do
our
work.
We
begin
with
public
comment.
Is
there
anybody
any
member
of
the
public
seeking
to
give
a
public
comment
this
morning.
A
Say
none
we
come
to
the
approval
of
minutes.
Is
there
a
motion
regarding
google
minutes.
A
Council
member
revel
moves
approval
of
the
minutes
of
the
october
28
2021
meeting
council
member
fleming
seconds
during
discussion.
Seeing
none
council
member
rebel.
D
E
A
I
hope
I
as
well
on
a
vote
of
three
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
the
myths
have
been
approved
so
now.
First,
we
wanted
to
first
item
on
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
review
of
of
the
new
stuff,
so
so
first
I
have
a
question
for
kelly,
so
it's
two
weeks
ago
we
actually
made,
you
know,
made
a
series
of
referrals
and
I
presume
they
were
communicated
to
the
relevant.
Oh
hey.
Can
you
guys
hear
me
my
computer's
telling
me
that
it's
not.
G
A
Sorry
about
that,
we
have
this
theory
in
our
house,
which
seems
like
maybe
maybe
some
kind
of
primitive
superstition,
but
we
have
this
theory
that
the
rain
really
affects
our
internet
significantly.
C
C
A
There
you
go,
it's
not
just
us,
so,
let's
cross
our
fingers,
so
I
don't
know
where
I
got
cut
off
but
anyways
two
weeks
ago,
we,
you
know
referred
a
number
of
items
and
I
wanted
to
get
an
update
from
kelly
on
what
happened.
A
Next,
I
my
understanding
is
that
kelly
had
communicated
them
to
the
various
committee
chairs
and
then
the
question
is:
what
did
we
ever
hear
back
from
from
them,
because
at
least
according
to
the
the
new
system,
this
mini
chairs
were
supposed
to
tell
us
kind
of
when
they
were
planning
on
putting
those
items
on
an
agenda.
F
Hi,
yes,
I
sent
over
whatever
was
forwarded
to
me
is
approved
and
I
have
not
heard
back
from
anyone.
I
don't
believe.
A
Okay,
well,
that's
real
bad.
I
guess
there
are
a
few
possibilities.
One
is
you
know
hey.
It
was
the
first
time.
That's
just
how
things
start
one
is.
I
wonder
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
communicate
more
clearly
with
them
and
the
other
is.
I
guess
that
there's
some
genuine
resistance
to
doing
this.
F
H
E
H
Put
together
for
kelly's
recommendation,
a
template
which
I'll
utilize
today
once
you
know,
we've
got
some
recommendations
for
referrals
that
very
clearly
says,
like
per
rule
9.7,
you
have
one
week
to
respond
to
this
so
yeah.
I
think
the
the
clarity
and
the
email
that
I
created
and
forwarded
to
kelly
that
then
went
to
the
committee
chairs.
Wasn't
you
know
it?
Just
it
wasn't
clear
to
them,
like
you
absolutely
have
to
respond
to
this
within
a
week.
So
hopefully
this
new
template
might
help
a
little
bit
as
well.
H
I
I
don't
know
that
it'll
solve
the
problem,
but
just
one
more
one,
more
nudge.
A
C
B
I
mean
I
would
like
to
I'm
not
very
optimistic,
so
to
say
that
I
would
think
that
it's
because
it's
new
is
probably
not
true
right,
because
we've
been
between
daniel
eleanor,
and
I
also
reached
out
to
these
things
about
these
things,
and
I
can't
ever
stop
so
I
guess
my
question
concern
is
and
maybe
tell
you
different.
I
think
we
need
to
wrap
in
the
staff
also
because,
quite
honestly,
across
the
board,
as
council
members,
you
know,
there's
a
variety
of
and
we're
seeing
down
right,
so
some
people
are
really
into
it.
B
Some
people
are
not
doing
a
whole
lot,
and
so,
even
with
that,
I
think
if
we
don't
loop
in
some
kind
of
staff,
you
know
council
members
might
just
you
know.
Historically,
it's
like
okay.
Well,
the
staff
presents
to
me
what
the
agenda
items
are
for
my
committee
and
I
kind
of
look
and
say:
okay
or
maybe
add
some
things
on
there,
like
the
degree
in
which
council
members
are
actually
putting
together.
B
An
agenda
is
pretty
varied
in
my
experience
and
she
probably
needs
to
try
to
put
something
out
for
alice's
play,
but
probably
need
to
bring
in
house
and
working
also
with
the
staff
for
that
stuff
for
that
meeting,
because,
historically
it's
really
just
been
the
city
manager's
office
or
whoever
putting
together
agenda
and
council
members
just
kind
of
been
like
thumbs
up
or
thumbs
down
on
uncertain
items,
but
I
don't
know
how
much
council
members
will
know
like
hey.
I
have
these
things
in
the
pipeline
for
my
agenda.
B
D
Well,
and
pnd
in
particular,
has
so
much
stuff
that
just
comes
to
it
from
other
other
committee,
other
commissions
and
from
that
staff
knows
about
so
yeah.
I
would
anything
that
needs
to
go
to
p
d.
I
would
think
would
be
best
to
go
to
the
well
copy
the
chair
and
the
staff
member.
A
Yeah,
I
think
that's
just
I
just
I
completely
agree.
I
think
that's
true
across
the
board,
just
I'm
in
practice
like
just
they
said.
Like
councilmember
fleming
said
you
know,
people
are
used
to
you
know.
Well,
if
you
forget
what
people
used
to
the
only
way,
this
will
ever
anything
of
this
letter.
Work
is
if
the
chair
and
then
the
staff
member
are
working
together
on
the
agenda.
So
I
think
that's
right
and
I.
B
F
B
A
Yeah,
I
think
that's
right
and
I
mean
look
if
if
this
continues
to
be
a
challenge,
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
do
just
some
basic
things
like,
for
example,
you
know
if
they
have
a
week
to
respond
and
six
days
have
passed
and
we
haven't
heard.
We
send
a
reminder
saying
we
need
to
hear
about
you
from
tomorrow.
If,
if
this
you
know
if
this
continues
to
be
just
people
are
just
unwilling
to
put
their
own
colleagues
items
on
agendas
for
the
meetings
they're
they're
sharing,
then
you
know
I
mean
listen.
A
I
can,
I
can
just
say
well,
hey
I
control
the
council
agenda
and
nothing
that
comes
out
of
your
committee
is
going
to
be
on
the
council
agenda
next
time,
unless
you
show
your
colleagues
the
respect
of
of
putting
their
their
items
on
on
agenda.
So
I
mean
there's
ways
for
us
to
to
be.
You
know
progressively
heavy-handed
about
this
and
I
hope
that's
not
necessary,
but
I
think,
if
it
is,
it
is
and-
and
you
know
change
is
a
little
difficult
and
I
get
it
this
all
sort
of
feels
kind
of
cumbersome.
A
A
Would
so
we
should
in
that
communication,
sort
of
re-upped
the
previous
one
as
well,
and
so
I
guess,
maybe
today
an
email
should
go
out.
I
don't
know
if
that's
again
from
kelly
or
somebody
else,
but
from
whoever
that
you
know
first
of
all
uses
allison's
new
template.
That's
very,
very
clear
second
says:
here's
the
new
stuff
and
third
says:
hey
here's,
what
here's
what
went
out
two
weeks
ago
this
time
we
really
mean
it
when
they
say
we
want
a
response.
A
Exactly
is
I,
I
know
that
allison
and
luke
have
worked
on
a
new
forum,
and
I
was
wondering
if
allison
could
give
us
an
update
on
that.
H
Yeah,
because
of
the
amount
of
licensing
we
have
for
the
program
that
we
use
for
the
form,
I
don't
have
one
right
now,
so
the
a
test
form
went
out
last
night.
H
I
don't
have
access
to
the
back
end
of
it,
but
the
plan
at
this
point
is
for
me
and
luke
and
clerk
mendoza
to
get
together
after
this
meeting,
to
probably
just
like
in
the
same
room,
to
look
at
the
back
end
of
it,
and
I
think
you
know
from
the
the
council
members
perspective,
and
hopefully
you
know
also
from
the
staff
perspective,
because
we're
going
to
be
asking
the
staff
to
use
this
form
as
well.
Not
much
will
really
change.
H
We
just
you
know
we're
using
the
prompts
and
the
questions
that
you
all
have
approved
and
really
the
question
on
the
back
end
is
more
like
things
that
I
can
manage
like
tracking
the
legislation,
as
opposed
to
just
like
wondering
where
it
is,
those
are
the
those
are
going
to
be
the
biggest
changes.
So
from
your
perspective
and
staff's
perspective,
it
won't
be
a
big
change.
It's
really
making
sure
that
the
back
end
works
in
a
way
that
works
for
our
committee
and
so
that
we
don't
lose
things.
A
Great,
and
so
I
guess
you
haven't
sort
of
unfair
question
to
ask
you
since
you
haven't
seen
it,
but
is
the
expectation
that
it'll
be
ready
to
share
you
know
soon.
B
Yes,
allison.
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
to
you
that
on
the
referrals
committee
web
page,
in
that
context,
where
it
says,
like
the
criteria
used
to
write
the
referrals
click
here-
that
actually
takes
you
to
the
referral
like
google
form
it.
Doesn't
it
no
longer
takes
you
to
the
criteria?
So
if
we
can
fix
that
part,
while
you're
working
with
a
loop,
which
is
like
thank.
A
Yeah
thank
you
for
that.
I
noticed
that,
like
roughly
every
three
weeks
and
then
I
always
forget
to
tell
anybody
so
thank
you
yeah,
because
I
think
I
think
whenever
that
change
happened,
the
the
criteria
has
gone
all
together,
which,
given
that
we've
all
acknowledged
that
their
those
numbers
just
appearing
by
themselves,
that
explanation
is
a
little
confusing
to
folks.
I
think
it'd
be
great
to
have
the
the
the
description
the
council
member,
built
up
all
the
time
to
write
up
available.
Folks.
A
A
Okay,
so
now
we
get
to
the
part
of
the
morning
where
daniel
struggles
with
tabs
on
browsers
by
my
count,
we
have
10
items
to
go
through.
I
think
that
is
eight,
that
we
just
didn't
get
to
last
time,
plus
two
new
ones.
A
Does
anyone
is
that
do
others
have
this?
Does
that
match
what
others
have.
B
A
Okay
and
that
that
could
be
so,
it
looks,
like
god,.
A
B
Just
for
the
sake
of
the
public
record
on
33,
the
anti-displacement
gentrification
stuff,
let
me
make
sure
I'm
looking
right
doesn't
have.
I
remember
we
talked
about
it.
It
doesn't
have
a
number
or
anything,
and
I
don't
remember
exactly
what
we
said
about
it,
but
it
might
be
nice
somewhere
on
our
maybe
in
the
status
column,
to
just
update
what
our
discussion
was
there.
B
Just
so
folks
who
are
paying
attention,
don't
feel
like
well
how
come
councilmember
burns
thing
from
you
know
all
guesses
sitting
here
like
unscheduled
and
unscored
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
A
That's
a
great
point,
and
I
think
it's
a
great
example
of
why
having
a
better
kind
of
status
tracker
will
be
helpful
in
that
particular
example.
There
was
a
period
a
few
weeks
ago,
where
I
was
having
a
lot
of
conversations
with
councilmember
burns
about
how
he
wanted
to
handle
this,
and
it
seems
like
he
was
just
going
to
ask
me
to
appoint
a
ad
hoc.
A
You
know
short-term
committee
or
task
force,
and
I
was
happy
to
do
it
and
then
then
those
discussions
kind
of
fell
off
the
the
front
burner,
and-
and
so
I
should
in
fact
check
back
in
with
him
and
see
what
his
intent
was
about.
That.
A
This
is
why
it
didn't
happen
that
I
asked
him
questions
like
that,
and
you
know
he
was
working
on
it
and
talking
with
nick
cummings,
and
you
know
he
was
really
engaged
and
and
figuring
out
the
right
way
to
do
it,
and
then
I
I
think
it
just
you
know
there.
There
were
so
many
different
balls
in
the
air.
I
think
this
one
would
have
gotten
dropped.
B
H
Yeah
so
per
the
minutes
that
we
just
approved
so.
B
H
Yeah
I
mean
I
have
so
for
wine.
So
last
time
we
started
on
line
40
line
43
there
was
a
decision
not
to
vote
line
44
the
rules
committee
can
simply
create.
This
committee
doesn't
need
to
go
through
referrals
line,
46
and
947.
H
You
decided
hold.
There
wasn't
enough
info.
B
A
A
H
B
When
46
and
47
just
for
clarity,
I
think
we
were
gonna,
get
some
clarity
from
legal,
not
like
an
approval
in
terms
of
the
foia,
but
like
is
that
something
that
we
can
do
so?
I
think
that
was
a
combination
between
legal
and
councilman,
marie
making
sure
what
he
was
asking
for
something
we
can
do
under
fourier
law
and
I
believe,
the
same
thing
for
46.
A
E
B
Then
it's
the
expectation
that
we
as
a
committee
would
do
that
or
who
would
be
doing
that.
Follow
because
we've
had
a
lot
of
follow-ups
and
we've
broken
some
things
up
as
committee
members.
But
I
think
in
these
cases
we
should
decide
who's
doing
that,
because
we
don't
want
to
come
back
again
and
no
one
has
done
that.
A
A
Yeah,
I
know
I
mean
I
do
think
when
allison's
back
that,
whether
or
not
she's
doing
all
of
the
stuff,
I
think
she'll
kind
of
be
the
project
manager
on
it
and
you
know
which,
which
I
think
will
be
enormously
helpful,
but
yeah
she's.
You
know
tomorrow
is
his
last
day,
and
so
that's
that's
just
not
the
way
things
are
going
to
be
for
a
little
bit.
B
H
Yeah
yeah,
I
think.
H
B
H
H
They
would
just
be
able
to
answer
the
question
better
in
the
future,
and
I
know
that
sarah
had
some
conversations
with
some
folks
about
it.
I
don't
know
where
it
is.
I
think
it's
worth
checking
in,
but
I
don't
know
that
it
would
be
a
policy
change.
I
think
it's
an.
A
B
Which
doesn't
address
my
issue
because
I
would
like
a
policy
change.
Okay,
part
of
the
policy
change
was
like
show
me
what
has
been
happening.
So
we
know
where
we
need
to
go
and
part
of
the
discussion
was
like
we
don't
know,
what's
been
happening.
We
think
it's
just
what
we
don't
know
so
all
right
daniel,
maybe
that's
when
you
and
I
can
kind
of
flesh
out,
because
I
mean
I
don't
want
them
to
like
start
tracking
it
and
then
three
years
down
the
line
we're
like.
Oh,
this
is
a
problem.
Yeah.
G
A
All
right,
this
is
all
this
is
all
good
anything
else
before
we
dive
into
row,
50.
D
I
gave
it
a
2,
4
time
sensitivity,
a
three
four.
Let
me
get
my
little
cheat
here
whatever
the
next
number
is
three
for
demand
on
staff
resources,
one
for
connection
to
existing
policy,
three
for
community
interest
and
one
for
goals
and
priorities.
B
A
Okay,
well
on
the
one
that
the
two
of
you
had
a
three
and
a
one.
I
gave
it
a
two
so
and
then
I
I
only
disagree
with
you
by
one
and
one
other
spot
which
we
can
ignore.
A
B
G
A
That
seems
fine
to
me.
I
mean
it
seems
like
a
good
thing
to
talk
about.
You
know,
like
you
said
well
in
advance,
you
know,
I
don't.
I
don't
think
it.
I
think
it'd
be
just
sort
of
unpleasant
for
everybody
if
it's
happening
under
the
gun
with
you
know
looming,
and
then
someone
gets
upset
that
it
didn't
get
quite
finished
in
time.
You
know
it
should
be,
should
be
handled
in
advance.
G
A
G
A
Second,
all
right
councilmember
moves.
We
attend
this
jpw
encouraging
them
to
do
it.
Early
june
22
comes
over
20
seconds.
There
are
discussion,
no
councilmember,
rebelle
hi,
that's
my
flag!.
E
A
I
vote
I
as
well.
The
motion
passes
three
to
zero.
That
brings
us
to
row
51,
which
is
the
council
member
and
mayoral
stipend
of
7
200
annually
per
member.
Anybody
want
to
share
their
thoughts
on
this
one.
B
A
I
think
right,
yes,
so
I
gave
it
a
three
for
time
sensitivity
and
I
actually,
I
actually
feel
pretty
strongly
about
that.
I
I
do
think
it's
really
not
appropriate
for
elected
officials
to
change
their
own
salary
during
a
term.
A
It's
probably
legal
to
increase
it,
it's
definitely
illegal
to
decrease
it,
but
I
just
think
it's
even
if
it's
legal,
it's
just
not
right,
and
so
I
I
don't
feel
like
there's
any
time
sensitivity
on
this
in
terms
of
doing
it
before
you
know
it
should
be
done
well
in
advance
of
the
even
before
petitions
are
filed
for
2025,
so
folks
know,
but
I
I
just
I
feel
like
it
really
would
be
deeply
problematic
to
do
it
earlier
than
that.
Oh
my
god,
I'm
so
bad
at
tabs.
I'm
sorry!
A
So
I
gave
it
a
three
for
time
sensitivity.
I
actually
gave
it
a
two
for
a
scope,
but
I
think
that's
really
pretty
clearly
wrong.
I
think
you
guys
are
right
that
it's
a
it's
a
one.
I
gave
it
one
for
connection
to
existing
policy
and
then
a
three
for
each
of
the
other
two,
and
so,
if
we
average
those
out,
we
got
a
three
of
one
one.
A
Oh,
it
looks
like
it
averages
out
exactly
the
council
number
rebels,
of
course,
rating,
which
is
three
one,
one,
three
three
for
a
total
of
eleven.
I
presume
this
would
go
to
rules.
D
F
B
So
my
I
actually
don't
think
this
is
a
salary
issue,
so
I
don't
for
me
it's
not
like
we're
increasing
our
salaries,
although
I
can
see
how
you
say
that
I
do
think-
and
I
brought
this
up
before
so
we
you
know
we
do
get
the
money
for
ourselves
on
whether
or
not
you
feel
like
it's
enough.
It's
a
different
situation.
We
don't
get
money.
I
think
we
get
70
dollars
telling
that
right
for,
like
sales,
internet
or
whatever
it
is,
I
think
it's.
B
My
experience
is
that
if
you
want
to
join
a
professional
organization,
I've
only
really
done
that
when
wally
was
here,
but
he
always
was
fine
doing
that
and
the
city
just
paid
for
it
or
if
I
paid
for
it,
I
got
a
reimbursement.
So
there
is
that
available
the
home
office.
B
You
know,
I
will
say
that
you
know
there
definitely
can
be
costs
there,
and
I
guess
if
if
people
wanted
to
have
a
discussion
now
about
that,
I
would
be
supportive
of
that,
because
I
don't
think
that's
like
money
in
your
pocket
necessarily,
but
we
you
know,
we
don't
have
an
office
at
city
hall.
B
B
Maybe
they
are,
but
I
don't
know
what
happened
with
that
discount
orientation
and
I
know
you
want
to
charge
it
up,
but
maybe
it's
worth
letting
folks
know
again
about
any
kind
of
internet
phone
reimbursement
or
stipend
that
we
do
have
as
well
as
like.
If
you
want
to
join
a
professional
organization,
I
know.
B
This
around
magazine
subscriptions
or
newspaper
subscriptions,
so
maybe
it's
worth
telling
people
that
we
do
have
these
benefits,
including
travel,
because
I've
gone
to
a
couple
conferences
because
they
they
just
might
not
know
right
and
again.
If
we
don't
want
more
people
without
information,
we
can't
fault
them
for
not
knowing
what's
available
to
them.
B
F
G
B
Then,
at
this
point,
kelly
with
this
work
at
home
policies,
now
that
we
have
do
people
do
other
staff
get
any
kind
of
financial
support
for
home
office
expenses.
F
B
All
right
so
then,
I
guess
in
my
commentary
for
this.
If
we
take
it-
and
I
don't
necessarily
care-
but
if
we
did
not
want
to
wait,
is
maybe
a
conversation
around
if
staff
get
whatever
kind
of
stipend
or
support
for
home
office
cost.
I'm
not
really
sure
why
the
city
council
members
wouldn't
have
access
to
those
same
things,
not
something
new
or
extra,
but
you
know
just
parody
to
what
other
staff
have
for
home
office.
F
People
need
help,
I
think,
if
people
need
help
with
computers
or
a
setup
or
something
they
can
certainly
talk
to
me
and
luke
stowe
and
I
mean
luke's,
been
really
accommodating
to
people
during
the
last
year
and
a
half
to
try
to
help
them
get
into
a
situation,
that's
comfortable
to
work
from
home
when
they
need
to.
So
I
don't
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
that
we
need
legislation
behind
it,
but
if
we
do,
then
I
think
it
has
to
go
to
rules.
B
A
Well,
so
I
think
it
makes
sense
for
you
know
for
kelly
to
check
in
on
on
that
and
report.
Back
to
the
council,
I
mean
my
own
view.
Is
that
you're
absolutely
right?
This
isn't
all
salary
by
any
means,
but
I
think
it
is
all
compensation.
A
So
I
I
don't
know
there's
a
better
place
to
have
the
discussion
than
the
compensation
committee.
But
again,
if,
if
people
want
that
conversation
to
happen
sooner,
then
the
fact
that
there
isn't
a
compensation
committee
is
is
relevant.
You
know,
so
I'm
happy
to
sort
of
address
this
as
folks
want,
but
my
instinct
would
be
that
the
compensation
committee
is
the
right
place
for
the.
D
B
A
All
right,
so
are
we
comfortable
taking
no
action,
but
you
know
waiting
to
see
what
we
hear
back
from
kali
and
our
okay.
A
Great
that
brings
us
to
row
52,
which
is
and
park
closures.
A
Is
there
someone
want
to
go
first.
B
D
A
Got
it
okay,
so
I
had
three
and
then
a
whole
bunch
of
twos
so
relatively
similar.
So
I
think
three
and
two
and
one
for
the
first
three
as
you
both
did
this
makes
sense
and
then.
A
F
B
A
Yeah,
that's
exactly
what
I
understand
and
the
reason
I
said
human
services.
I
think
you're
right,
that
parks
and
rec
is
better
is
what
he's
saying
is
end
police
intervention
for
mere
presence
at
a
park,
and
so
I
think
that
the
point.
The
point
is
that
you
know
there
are
interactions
between
police
officers
and
youth
that
are
just
generated
by
being
being
harmless
in
a
part
because
of
the
time
of
night
that
it
is
and
he's
recommending
that
that
be
changed.
A
A
And
it
seems
like
nobody
thought
that
it
was
especially
urgent,
including
the
referrer.
Do
you
all
have
a
have
thoughts
about
the
the
timeline
that
we
should
request.
A
A
So
I
think
not
urgent,
but
before
it
gets
warm
is
probably
what
I
would
say,
which
I
know
sounds
a
little.
B
A
E
A
I
vote
I
had
a
vote
of
three
to
zero.
The
motion
to
ask
the
parks
and
rec
board
to
take
this
on
early
in
2022
passes,
and
this
brings
us
to
the
sro
referral
which.
B
So
I
didn't
rate
this
phone
cause.
I
thought
we
already
got
this
from
going
right.
I
made
a
budget
referral.
We
kind
of
had
a
little
bit
of
back
and
forth
about
that.
Then
I
thought
that
I
remember
if
we
were
going
to
kelly
and
or
nick
we're
going
to
have
some
discussions
about
where
we
are,
there
was
some
confusion
around
whether
they're
supposed
to
be
paying
us
already
or
not,
paying
us
already.
F
I
have
any-
or
at
least
for
d65
it
has,
I
heard
from
their
attorney,
there's
nothing
in
the
district's
budget
for
sros,
nor
does
it
plan
to
budget
for
them.
F
E
All
right!
What,
in
my
in.
B
My
what
to
say-
and
I
think
my
referral
was
specific
to
eths,
because
some
time
ago
we
had
that
whole
thing
with
65
and
the
sros.
Although
they're
still-
and
I
pointed
this
out
to
kate
kelly-
it's
still
listed
in
the
line
item
budget
for
the
police
for
officers.
F
B
C
A
A
G
A
At
all-
and
you
know,
I
think
the
question
is-
I
mean
fundamentally
the
question's
about
202
and
the
two
possible
changes
one
could
make
or
to
say:
we'd
prefer
to
have
our
officers
not
in
there
or
to
pursue
a
different
financial
arrangement
with
them,
and
I
think
what
we
learned
in
the
last
council
meeting
is
that
the
the
agreement
that
we
have
with
them
sort
of
goes
on
for
a
couple
years.
A
E
B
D
A
I
gave
it
a
one
for
time,
sensitivity
a
one
for
scope,
two
for
connection
to
existing
policy,
a
three
for
community
interest
and
two
for
goals
for
nine.
A
And
if
I
try
to
average
those
you
get
a
one
for
time,
sensitivity,
one
for
scope,
it
looks
like,
and
one
for
community
interest,
sorry,
a
one
for
political
system
policy,
that's
three
for
community
interests
and
a
two
for
connection.
For
you
know
our
existing
goals,
which
adds
up
to
seven.
A
A
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think
I
think,
if
it's
not
a
policy
thing,
then
obviously
we'd
rather
have
them
pay
for
it
than
not,
but
we
should
just
you
know
we
can
decide
to
be
a
little
more
aggressive
in
those
negotiations
and
and
make
an
effort,
but
that's
you
know
like,
of
course,
we'd
like
them
to
pay
for
it.
Why
not?
A
You
know,
but
I
think
you
know
if,
if
we
actually
have,
as
a
policy
judgment,
the
view
that
this
is
not
the
right,
the
right
thing
for
the
city
to
be
doing,
that's
that's,
I
think,
a
more
that's
like
really
a
judgment
call
for
us
to
make.
So
I
agree
with
that.
D
A
Yeah
I
mean:
do
we
have
a
date?
I
mean
I
think
they
are
planning,
I
think
they're.
They
were
initially
planning
on
having
a
vote
at
their
next
board
at
their
december
board
meeting
and
I
have
to
admit
I'm
sort
of
a
couple
weeks
out
of
date.
But
when
I
last
checked
in
I
mean
they
were,
they
spent
a
lot
of
time.
Thinking
about
this
and
talking
about
this
and
and
they
were
going
to
have
a
vote
that
honestly,
I
think
it
was
not
clear
how
how
it
was
going
to
go.
B
A
I
would
say
if
they
determine
that
they
want
to
make
a
change
in
policy
kind
of
analogous
to
what
65
has
done
that
solves
the
problem
for
us,
whereas
if
they
decide
they
want
to
continue
down
the
path
they're
on.
D
No,
I
think
the
conversation
would
be
quite
different
if
the
school
board
had
already
decided
to
make
a
big
change,
because
it
you
know
one
decision
is:
is
it
purely
financial?
Do
we
want
to
say
okay,
fine,
we're
happy
to
send
police
officers,
but
you
need
to
pay
for
them
versus
if
you
really
want
them
or
well.
I
guess
there's
a
question
of
if
we,
if
we
truly
thought
having
armed
police
officers
in
high
school,
was
not
a
good
idea,
we
could
just
say
well
find
your
own
armed
security
guards.
D
I
mean
given
that
we're
moving
towards
alternative
alternative
crisis
response
programs.
You
know
it
does
make.
You
wonder
why
we
want
to
have
an
armed
police
officer
at
the
high
school
anyway.
A
Yeah,
I
mean
look.
I
I've
been
public
about
this
as
a
matter
of
public
policy.
I
don't
think
we
should
you
know
I.
I
don't
think
it's
the
right
thing
to
do.
For
me.
There's
two
situations.
One
is
where
the
school
district
agrees
and
the
answer
the
situation
becomes
extremely
simple
and
one
is
where
they
don't
and
we
have
to
decide
if
we
want
to
really
have
a
difficult,
difficult
interaction
with
them
about
that,
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
saying
I'm
opposed
to
that.
I'm
just
saying
it'd
be
nice
to
know.
B
No,
but
I
have
to
think
we
could
also
revisit
that
right.
I
don't
know
that.
That's
particularly
if
they're
having
some
discussions
about
this
on
their
own,
I
think
we
could,
if
we're
having
discussions
and
they're
having
discussions,
I
think
we
could
probably
revisit
that
without
thinking
they're
going
to
take
us
to
court
or
whatever,
but
anyway
we're
going
down
the
probably.
D
So
I
would
move
that
we
refer
this
to
human
services
and
for
early
2022,
so
we
can
have
the
benefit
of
the
conversation
at
the
school
board.
Meeting.
E
A
E
E
A
I
as
well
so
I'm
gonna
go
to
three
to
zero.
This.
This
is
so
referred.
That
brings
us
to
council
member
newsman's
referral
about
the
metro,
bridges
and
the
davis
street
tunnel.
I
was
not
totally
sure
that
this
was
the
right.
F
F
Hayenk
has
already
contacted
council
member
new
sema
on
that
and
she
was
going
to
try
to
contact
union
pacific
to
see
if
they
could
make
some
changes
and
if
we
could
change
some
of
the
lighting
underneath
the
tunnel
he's
talking
about
yeah.
H
A
So
that
brings
us
then,
to
council
member
fleming's
late-breaking
referral
regarding
cannabis.
Dispensaries
is.
Am
I
right
that
the
issue
here
is
that
we
have
no
fee
at
all
for
cannabis,
dispensaries.
B
E
A
So
like
where
we
have
a
special
liquor
license
fee
correct,
we
don't
have
anything
like
that
for
cannabis.
Correct
and
my
understand
I
mean
there's
no
need
to
be
to
be
secretive
about
this.
This
was
an
observation
made
by
clerk
mendoza,
and
I
think
she
observed
this
in
the
context
of
for
some
reason,
seeing
the
fees
that
other
municipalities
were
assessing
and
I
believe
her
understanding
is
that
we're
kind
of
an
outlier
here.
A
D
A
Gun
series
anyways,
but
but
it
does
seem
to
be
a
missed
opportunity
and-
and
you
know,
probably
good
public
policy
as
well
for
kind
of
the
same
reasons
that
having
some
sort
of
licensing
fee
for
liquor
is
probably
a
good
idea.
B
D
B
D
A
A
So
I
think
those
are
both
different
ways
of
getting
to
nine.
I
gave
it
a
two
one,
two
one
two
which
got
me
to
eight.
A
Sure
is,
I
don't
no
comment.
A
G
E
G
D
G
A
B
B
B
F
A
Great
well
speaking,
of
which,
when
do
we
want
this
to
be
in
committee.
Ideally.
A
So
councilmember
fleming
moves
that
this
item
be
in
a
pw,
ideally
early
in
2022
council
member
revell
seconds.
Is
there
a
discussion
council,
member
revell.
G
E
A
And
I
vote
I
as
well,
so
that
also
passes
on
a
vote
of
three
to
zero.
So
that
brings
us
to
the
end
of
our
list
at
the
end
of
our
agenda.
So
allison
and
kelly
will
work
to
get
this
information
out
today
to
the
various
committee
chairs
and
staff
in
a
way,
that's
utilizes
the
template
and
is
clear
and
reiterates
what
was
sent
two
weeks
ago
as
well.
A
A
Great
points,
so
this
meeting
was
sort
of
rescheduled.
So
officially
we
have
a
meeting
a
week
from
today,
which
I
would
argue
we
should
cancel,
and
then
the
next
meeting
is
december.
2Nd
I
have
is
that
is
that
correct.
A
It's
fine
with
me
and
I
we
might
as
well
just
decide
this
now.
We've
been
sort
of
toggling
back
and
forth
between
8
30
and
9
on
the
second
should
we
do
8,
30
or
nine.
F
I
think
8
30
better,
if
possible,
if
we're
all
remote,
so
I
think
it's
helpful
to
you
know
get
it
started
early
end
it
earlier
in
the
day,
as
opposed
to
10
30
right.
A
Yeah,
so
we
just
do
it
at
9
30,
but
nope
at
8,
30
by
zoom,
going
forward
perfect
yeah.
A
All
right,
so,
the
our
next
meeting
is
thursday
december
2nd
by
by
zoom
at
8
30
a.m
and
seeing
no
further
business
to
come
before.
H
H
A
All
right:
well,
hey
good
luck!
Allison
yeah,.
A
And
I
think
that's
all
we
have
so
was
that
the
november
11th
meeting
of
the
referrals
committee
stanza
gerund
thanks
everybody
see
you
all
soon.
Okay,.