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A
A
Great
and
not
making
the
cash
benefit
too
restrictive,
I
think
you
know
it
should
just
be
a
fourth
option
that
particularly
the
ancestor
should
be
able
to
take
I.
Think
it'll
allow
us
to
get
through
the
Distributing
the
payments
a
lot
faster,
because
we
know
with
our
limitations
of
capacity,
particularly
for
the
housing,
Improvement
Grant
and-
and
you
know,
we
know
that
cipa,
our
current
partner
can
only
do
one
per
month,
roughly
so
take
years
and
years
for
us
to
be
able
to
get
through
the
seniors.
A
A
direct
cash
benefit
really
eliminates
a
lot
of
the
procedural.
You
know.
Bottlenecking
that's
happening
currently.
B
Thank
you,
council,
member
Reed
for
that
public
or
I'm.
Sorry
for
that
comment,
I
could
not
agree
with
you
more
in
this
case
very
happy
to
see
the
work
of
the
law
department
and
the
committee
for
pushing
us
to
be
able
to
get
to
more
solutions.
We
have
a
significant
amount
of
funding
that
is
being
held
up
because
of
operational
capacity,
and
this
will
be
a
solve
for
that.
B
So
just
want
to
say
thanks
to
all
of
those
that
have
gotten
to
this
point,
I
think
it's
important
to
start
with
an
understanding
on
how
we
got
here
being
directed
by
our
Law
Department
for
a
narrow
tailor,
coloring
framework
legal
framework
for
our
reparations
initiative.
Being
that
our
25
000
direct
benefit
is
in
direct
correlation
to
the
specific
harm
that
we
are
addressing
at
this
point,
which
is
an
anti-black
zoning
laws
and
housing
policies
and
those
that
are
are
not
up
to
date
on
how
we
landed
here.
B
Starting
with
2019
Community
feedback
that
is
also
available
online,
so
I
would
really
encourage
those
that
are
curious
on
how
we've
come
to
this.
How
we
have
evolved
here
to
visit,
cityofevinson.org,
backslash
reparations
and
learn
more
about
the
process
and
evolution
of
this
work.
I
support,
council
member
Reed's
comment,
council,
member
Burns.
C
Oh
sorry,
we
may
want
to
move
both
of
these
amendments
or
both
of
these
items
together.
I,
don't
think
councilmember
Reed
recognized
that
I
think
the
amendment
that
I
propose
is
item
a
which
we
moved
and
I
think
what
he
proposed
is
actually
Item
B.
C
So
we
may
want
to
move
both
of
them
together,
because
the
amendment
is
Attorney
Johnson
said
was
was
was
something
I
proposed
if
the
committee
was
not
willing
to
go
as
far
as
the
crate
or
allow
direct
cash
benefits
for
all
the
remaining
ancestors
or
perhaps
even
everyone
else
in
the
program
and
at
the
very
least,
I
thought,
it
was
important
to
make
sure
that
whatever
standard
the
white
we've,
you
know,
we
feel
the
wide
men's
met
that
that
same
exception
is
off,
is
extended
to
you
know
all
the
ancestors
or
everyone
else
in
the
program
so
I'll
hold
there
I
want
to
you
know
we
might
want
to
move
both
of
these
together
and
then
I
would
love
to
hear
from
the
rest
of
the
committee.
C
Members
I
think
my
position
on
this
has
been
pretty
clear
that
that
I've
always
been
interested
in
seeing
direct
cash
benefits
in
the
program.
B
E
D
F
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
one
clarification,
given
the
possibility
of
moving
these
together,
even
though
we're
not
proceeding
in
that
direction.
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
the
exception
that
we're
currently
speaking
of
in
regard
to
the
amendment
would
be
limited
as
in
in
the
Liu
option
of
declining
the
payment,
and
then
the
potential
cash
payment
program
is
something
that's
separate.
That
also
has
separate
legal
advice
attached
to
it.
B
Thank
you
for
that
clarification.
I
was
clear
on
that.
Definitely
clear
on
that.
I
I
I
think
we
ended
last
meeting
with
just
wanting
direction
from
your
department
on
how
this
fourth
option
would
live
if
it
would
be
a
fourth
option
or
a
fourth
option
once
others
are
exhausted
and
I
don't
know
if
that
language
has
been
crafted
yet.
But
that
was
the
point
of
clarification
as
it
relates
to
the
cash
benefit
being
an
option
on
this
existing
existing
program.
That's
been
developed,
yeah.
A
And
and
point
of
order
for
information,
my
my
motion
at
the
top
of
the
meeting
was
to
allow
create
a
fourth
option
for
the
ancestor
category.
That
was
the
motion
that
I
made.
C
G
C
Is
which
is
different
from
the
amendment
and
that's
what
I
was
trying
to
point
out?
I
recognize
that
B
is
to
develop
a
program
which
even
that
may
be
a
little
bit
different
than
what
I
described
earlier,
because
that
would
take
it
away
from
the
existing
program
and
not
make
it
a
fourth
option.
But
I
think
what
I
was
trying
to
highlight
is
that
the
amendment
that
Attorney
Johnson
described
is
different
from
councilman
Reed's
motion.
D
So
I'm
a
little
confused,
it's
9
A.M,
but
what
I
wanted
to
talk
about
and
ask
and
put
on
the
floor,
especially
for
legal,
is
if
we
allow
Tech
cash
options
and
again
I
came
into
this
conversation
two
years
behind
as
a
council
member,
are
there
tax
implications
to
the
recipients
as
when
they
participate
and
get
their
luxury
tax,
or
you
know
something
of
that
nature
that
then
changes
that
amount
that
a
resident
would
get
am
I
making
sense?
D
H
E
F
D
F
Of
course,
thank
you
for
asking
that
so,
as
you
know,
the
tax
opinion
has
been
circulated
amongst
the
council,
members
and
so
I
can't
get
into
the
legal
leads
in
regards
to
that,
because
it
is
returning
client
privilege.
But
what
I
can
say
is
that,
in
order
to
avoid
any
sort
of
tax
consequences,
we
may
need
to
add
an
income
reporting
component
for
the
recipients.
F
So
that
may
be
something
that
we
will
have
to
do
to
assist
with
the
tax
implications,
but
that's
something
that
we
would
have
to
do
on
a
case-by-case
basis
likely.
B
So
to
to
add
more
explanation:
councilwoman
Harris-
that
was
the
initial
concern
on
taxation
it
being
outside
of
the
purview
of
municipal
government
we've
since
had
multiple
tax
memos,
and
we
certainly
wouldn't
move
forward
with
anything
that
would
jeopardize
or
be
a
further
burden.
B
So
there
would
be
extreme
effort
in
preventing
any
type
of
Taxation
concerns
and
I
believe
in,
even
in
the
two
that
we
have
already
had
a
committee
approval
on
offering
a
cash
benefit,
the
legal
department
is
working
on
the
appropriate
way
to
disperse
that
twenty
five
thousand
dollar
cash
benefit
so
I'm
hoping
at
some
point.
We
can
get
more
explanation
on
that.
Beyond
Case
by
case
council
member
Burns.
A
Yeah
yeah,
thank
you.
So
one
thing
I
want
to
note:
I
appreciate
the
attention
to
the
potential
tax
liability
that
beneficiaries
recipients
May
face
and
and
is
count
as
our
chair
woman
noted.
A
We
do
have
opinions
that
show
that
this
would
be
seen
as
a
general
wealth,
general
welfare
benefit
and
thereby
would
not
be
taxed,
but
I
think
even
if
you
know
somehow
those
multiple
legal,
determinations,
Were
Somehow
wrong
and
the
federal
government
said.
Yes,
we
are
going
to
tax
this
I
think
as
long
as
we
have
a
clear
understanding
of
what
the
liability
is,
and
we
express
that
to
folks
the
tax
liability
I
think
even
if
there
was
one
we
should.
A
Let
folks
make
that
determination
for
themselves
whether
or
not
they
feel
it's
appropriate
to
have
to
face
that
tax
liability.
A
Certainly
I
want
to
also
make
sure
that
we're
informing
folks
as
to
whether
this
could
jeopardize
any
existing
benefits
such
as
Social,
Security
or
anything
else,
I.
Think
we
need
to
have
all
of
that
clear
and
inform
people
as
to
what
the
potential
is
here,
but
but
I
do
think.
We
should
give
folks
that
option,
even
if
somehow
we
figure
out
that
a
liability
does
exist.
H
D
Transparent
about
that
that
there
may
be
liability,
there
may
be
costs,
it
may
be
individually,
figured
out,
you
know
per
person,
but
people
need
to
hear
that
people
need
to
know
that
we
know
we
recognize
that
I
just
wanted
the
103
people
on
this
call.
You
know
to
understand
that
we've
thought
about
that.
We're
looking
at
that.
So
yes
most.
Definitely
thank
you.
B
Thank
you
additionally,
I
would
move
as
we
move
forward
with
these
actions.
We
would
definitely
need
to
have
updated
info
sessions,
as
we
had
when
we
announced
the
initial
program,
so
we'll
do
that.
We'll
have
info
sessions
for
the
community
to
go
in
more
detail
over
the
legal
memos
as
we're
able
and
the
outcomes
of
these
changes.
Council,
member
Burns.
C
Yeah,
more
of
a
part
of
information,
because
I
think
there's
a
it
might
be
a
bit
of
confusion.
Attorney
Johnston.
Can
you
again
describe
the
the
amendment
and,
and
you
know
what
situations
it
would
apply
to.
C
I,
don't
think
there
is
I
didn't
see
this
spelled
out
in
the
packet,
which
is
why
I'm
asking
for
the
clarification,
because
I
think
the
motion
you
made
and
then
the
the
statement
that
Attorney
Johnson
made
are
in
Conflict.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
on
the
same
page,
a
fourth
option.
B
Has
been
moved
and
seconded
so,
let's
discuss
that
is
there
any
further?
Actually,
if
Attorney
Johnson
wants
to
offer
any
feedback
on
that
before
we
complete
discussion
and
call
call
the
question.
F
Thank
you
for
that.
I
think
that
the
proper
Amendment,
because
there
technically
is
already
a
fourth
option.
The
fourth
option
is
to
decline
the
benefit,
so
the
amendment
would
be
in
lieu
of
declining
the
benefit.
A
Yeah
and
and
yeah-
thank
you
for
for
that.
My
emotion
is
not
that
I.
Don't
think
that
it
should
be
that
the
person
has
to
not
meet
the
criteria,
because
technically
everyone
meets
the
criteria.
It's
a
choice.
If
you
want
to
buy
a
house
or
if
you
don't,
and
just
because
your
70
doesn't
mean
that
you
cannot
buy
a
house
it,
you
may
not
want
to
and
so
hold
on.
Let
me
finish
yeah,
but.
C
I
still
have
the
forecast
where
we,
this
is
what
I
was
trying
to
explain
before
I
got
cut
off
twice
so
if
I
can
continue
having
the
floor,
this
is
what
I've
been
trying
to
say.
The
whole
time
is
that
what
Attorney
Johnson
described
and
what
you
motioned
is
different
and
so
I
don't
want
to
compute
confuse
people
I'm
happy
to
move
forward
discussing
the
motion
that
was
made
and
seconded
by
me,
but
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
that
the
amendment
as
Attorney
Johnson
was
explained
would
have
limitations.
C
It
would
be
if
you
don't
have
any
direct
descendants
and
you
do
not
want
to
purchase
a
home
or
don't
have
a
mortgage
to
pay
down,
so
it
would
be
limited.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
council
member
Reeves
motion
was
properly
moved
and
seconded,
so
we
can
discussion
to
vote
on
it.
I
just
didn't
what
I
want
this
to
be
confusing
for
committee
members
or
the
folks
observed
in
this
meeting,
and
that's
all
true
thank
you.
B
So
I
think
another
point
that
we
should
make
is
this
is
for
the
existing
program
that
the
applications
are
currently
closed.
So
those
that
have
applied
under
this
restorative
housing
program
have
already
applied
with
some
indication
of
either
home
ownership
or
working
towards
home
ownership.
B
So
in
the
case
that
they
have
decided
not
to
purchase
or
use
it
in
any
other
way,
they
would
have
a
fourth
option
and
I
hear
the
distinction
that's
being
made.
I'm
I
feel
that
we
can
get
to
the
same
outcome
though,
and
so
Attorney
Johnson.
If
you
could
give
us
any
further
information
on
why
we
are
landing
on
a
fourth
option,
giving
the
residents
the
option
to
use
it
as
initially
designed
or
the
option
to
take
a
cash
benefit.
B
Then
here's
a
here's
more
specificity
to
that
question.
Is
it
a
in
terms
of
say
they
have
exhausted
or
are
declining
the
other
options?
What
is
necessary
other
than
signing
on
to
the
fourth
option,
any
type
of
due
diligence
or
anything
else
that
would
be
I,
think
unreasonable
to
have
additional
proof
of
decline.
Mortgage
application
or
proof
of
you
know
not
having
title
to
any
home,
like
what
type
of
thought
was
put
into,
what
a
decline
on
the
initial
options.
What
does
that
look
like
it's.
B
Because
that's
where
we
get
into
that's,
where
we
would
get
into
complications,
anything
of
that
nature
would
be
of
concern
to
me.
F
Right
so
part
of
my
advice
for
these
separate
cash
payment
program
is
that
the
city
will
need
to
have
Actuarial
evidence
that
shows
that
the
remedy
is
related
to
the
harm.
F
So
for
the
original
for
the
housing
program,
having
the
limited
options
of
renovation
paying
down
a
mortgage
and
passing
on
to
beneficiaries
was
to
actually
tie
the
harm
to
the
remedy,
and
so
by
offering
a
standalone
cash
payment
option
as
a
fourth
option
and
not
an
option
that's
in
declining
because
they
don't
meet
the
other
three
requirements:
we're
effectually,
creating
a
standalone
cash
payment
program,
which
is
an
option,
preferably
as
a
separate
program,
with
the
advice
that
we
Garner
that
Actuarial
evidence
that
we
need,
and
so
that's
the
danger
of
creating
a
standalone
cash
payment
option
under
the
restorative
housing
program
is
that
we
don't
necessarily
have
that.
F
Actuarial
evidence
to
stay
that
flat
out
cash
is
related
to
the
harm,
whereas,
if
it's
in
lieu
of
declining
the
payment,
because
the
the
recipient
actually
cannot
meet
the
other
requirements
of
renovation,
paying
it
down
a
mortgage
or
passing
their
benefit
to
a
beneficiary,
we're
still
able
to
tie
the
harm
to
the
remedy.
If.
A
If
point
of
information
there
to
me
I
get
that,
but
you
know
the
reason:
I
support
moving
forward
for
the
clean
fourth
option
and
I
do
agree
that
we
should
create
a
separate
program
as
well
for
cash
benefits
and
maybe
even
a
cleaner
way
to
do.
This
would
be
to
just
you
know,
move
option
b
and
let
folks
that
have
already
applied
for
this
program
for
the
housing
program
to
be
at
the
front
of
the
line
for
the
Direct
Cash
payment
program,
but
to
to
be
clear
here.
A
Anyone
who
registered
for
this
program
should
have
had
an
understanding
that
this
was
a
housing
benefit,
so
to
create
a
cash
benefit
only
in
lieu
of
after
folks
have
to
jump
through
hoops
to
prove
that
they
actually
didn't
qualify
for
the
program
that
they
applied
for
initially
I
think
just
adds
unnecessary
barriers
that
that
don't
seem
to
do
anything
to
very
concretely
strengthen
legally
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
program
here
and
so
the
reason
I
put
forward.
The
motion
that
I
put
forward
is
I
think
we
should
particularly
for
the
ancestors
right.
B
Thank
you,
Committee
Member,
Sutton,.
I
Thank
you
Robin
before
I
call
the
previous
questions.
I
I
think
we
need
an
explanation.
The
only
thing
that
we
can
vote
on
right
now
is
the
current
Amendment,
which
makes
an
exception
for
those
two
individuals.
Then
we
can
entertain
another
amendment
where
we
could
add
not
only
the
cash
payment,
but
also
some
Provisions
for
beneficiaries,
where
the
person
who
applied
is
deceased
have
a
lot
of
concern
about
that.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
Sutton,
so
with
that,
if
there
is
no
further
discussion
or
clarification
needed
on
the
amendment.
B
C
Says
correctly
too,
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we,
the
motion
and
maybe
councilman
Reed.
You
can
just
clearly
State
your
motion,
but
again
this
would.
It
would
not
be
an
exception
for
people
who
don't
don't
have
they.
This
is
not
an
ex.
His
motion
is
not
an
exception
for
people
who
do
not
have
any
direct
descendants
and
who
do
not,
who
aren't
interested
in
purchasing
a
home.
It's
there's,
no
restrictions,
no
limitations.
C
A
No,
that
that's
exactly
it
I
I
think
you
know
in
order
to
streamline
this
process,
to
make
sure
that
you
know
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
load
anything
more
on
to
to
Chic
or
a
law
department
where
they'd
have
to
verify.
You
know
whether
or
not
folks
have
children
or
direct
descendants
where
they'd
have
to
verify
whether
or
not
they're
eligible
for
a
home
loan
or
whether
or
not
they'd
have
to
verify
you
know
all
of
these
other
things.
I
think
you
know
we
should
trust
our
ancestors
trust.
A
The
folks
who
have
been
lived
through
this
period
of
harm
and
allow
them
to
without
jumping
through
hoops
choose
the
fourth
option
of
Direct
Cash
payment,
which
is
the
most
efficient
way
to
get
this
repair
to
folks.
So
we're
not
losing
more
and
more
seniors
or
ancestors
to
you
know
we're
not
losing
more
and
more
of
them
as
they're
waiting
to
have
this.
These
disrepair
distributed
to
them
and
so
I'm
hoping
folks
will
Vote
for
This
option.
A
So
we
can
streamline
this
process,
get
our
ancestors
to
compensation
that
they
have
long
waited
for
and
deserved.
B
Let
me
jump
in
and
I.
Let
me
let
me
jump
in
and
add
this.
In
the
event,
this
program
has
already
been
designed:
those
that
applied
applied
with
some
understanding
that
it
was
to
repair
harm
by
Building
Wealth
through
home
equity.
If
we
council,
member
Reed,
were
to
with
no
sort
of
restrictions
or
verifications
just
allow
the
recipients
to.
B
Decline,
the
others
and
choose,
and
and
if,
if
our
attorney
Johnson
could
jump
in,
if
we
if
they
can
decline,
the
others
without
any
type
of
proof
or
due
diligence
on
Beats
on
behalf
of
our
city
staff
or
Law
Department
decline,
the
others
and
choose
the
fourth
option
instead
of
having
a
fourth
option,
I
feel
that
that's
the
same,
this
the
same
based
on
how
the
program
was
designed
and
what
those
applying
were
applying
for
for
home
equity
through
I'm,
sorry
for
wealth
through
home
equity,
and
if
we
could
do
that,
I
mean
I.
B
Think
that's
what
that's
what
our
Corporation
Council
has
put
before
us
understanding.
What
you're
asking
is
something
different,
but
I
believe
we
can
get
to
the
same
option
as
for
having
cash
with
declining
the
other
three
options
and
then
get
to
what
is
the
second
agenda
item
a
cash
benefit
program,
because
this
amendment
is
not
to
develop
a
cash
benefit
program.
There
isn't
a
there.
Is
a
agenda
item
to
discuss
that,
and
would
you
would
would
that
be
acceptable
for
you,
council,
member
Reed.
A
Can
you
state
the
the
so
you're
saying
moving
in
line
with
what
Attorney
Johnson
has
stated,
which
is
it's
only
an
exception
of
folks,
somehow
prove
that
they
don't
have
direct
descendants,
prove
that
they're
unable
to
purchase
a
house
and
prove
that
they'd
don't
want
or
somehow
can't
have
home
improvements.
B
So
I'm
not
saying
prove
with
any
type
of
invasive
or
unnecessary
documentation.
I'm
saying
sign
off.
Just
in
the
case
of
the
two
exceptions
that
we've
made,
we
had
two
applicants
that
were
awarded
a
benefit
that
were
not
able
to
purchase
renovate
transfer
down
or
pay
down
any
mortgage
and
they
declined
those
options
and
are
now
have
been
given
this
option
because
they
declined
the
others.
We
haven't
asked
them
for
any
sort
of
proof
of
you
know,
ownership
or
any
other
documentation.
G
B
It
would
allow
for
this
the
exception
of
the
two
that
we
made
an
exception
on
in
our
last
committee
meeting.
That
would
be
consistent
throughout
the
remainder
of
the
applicant.
A
Well,
you
know:
I
I
I,
hear
that
I
with
what
you
just
said,
even
allowing
this
exception
doesn't
align
with
the
program
goals
so
in
in
that
vein,
you
know,
I
think
it's
either.
We
if
we're
willing
to
amend
the
program
for
folks
who
don't
qualify
for
the
program
to
allow
direct
cash
benefits.
I
think
we
should
just
allow
direct
cash
benefits
because
they
they're
still
not
meeting
the
program
goals
unless
we
were
to
directly
pay
their
rent
down.
For
you
know
up
to
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
A
It's
either
we
offer
the
right
cash
benefits
or
we
very
closely
which
I
disagree
with
stick
to
what
we've
said
in
the
past,
which
this
all
has
to
relate
to
housing,
and
then
in
that
case
the
proper
amendment
should
be
that
we're
doing
rental
assistance,
but
even
the
rental
assistance
wouldn't
help
build
generational
wealth
for
for
anyone,
because
they,
you
know
it
would
just
be
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
toward
rent
that
would
go
toward
a
Latin
property
owner.
A
So
I
I
think
you
know
I
think
we're
getting
a
little
too
lost
in
something
the
sauce.
The
weeds
I,
don't
know,
but
I
I
think
we
I
I
maintain
that
the
motion
that
I
put
on
the
floor,
which
would
create
a
fourth
option
for
folks
direct
cash
benefits,
is
what
our
ancestors
are
looking
for.
You
know
we.
A
We
know
that
our
ancestors,
yes,
housing,
is
a
huge
issue,
but
at
72
73
77,
their
other
cost
health
care
cost
other
things
that
they
have
to
cover
and
I'd
like
to
see
us
create
this
cash
benefit
option
for
our
seniors.
B
So
I
want
to
jump
in
and
say
that
there
is
no
shortage
of
harms
and
areas
that
we
need
to
be
addressing
as
a
municipality
and
further
as
this
community
Evans
and
other
institutions
in
town
as
well.
But
we
do
have
a
program
that
was
designed
by
Community
input
that
happened
already
and
we
have
designed
this
program.
We
have
applications
that
are
in.
We
have
residents
that
are
waiting
to
receive
their
benefit
and
we
have
the
funding
to
disperse
that.
B
If
we
can
get
to
a
path
forward
on
the
over
100
ancestors
that
we
know
we
are
losing
and
I'm
sure
Mr
Sutton
wants
to
talk
about
that
appropriately.
B
I
think
that
is
going
to
be
in
the
best
interest,
as
we
you've
made
it
very
clear
and
some
others
in
community
that
a
cash
benefit
program.
Standalone
program
is
desired
and
we
can
do
that
work
to
accomplish
that.
But
right
now
we
have
a
program
we
have
awarded
or
we
have
designated
recipients
and
we
need
to
move
forward
with
a
path
that
is
going
to
allow
us
to
continue
disbursing
this
with
some
clarity
and
so
I
see
more
comments.
B
I'm
not
sure
if
Mr
Sutton
was
first
or
council
member
Burns
But,
whichever
was
first,
if
you
could
unmute
yourself
and
have
your
comment.
Robin.
C
I
I
You
Robin
a
parliamentary
procedure,
did
not
include
all
those
options
in
the
First
Amendment
now
I'm
directly
in
favor
of
all
the
other
new
Provisions
that
will
come
with
a
separate
Amendment.
However,
that's
not
what
we're
supposed
to
be
voting
on
today.
Now,
if
we
vote
on
this
today,
which
is
important,
it
will
set
a
precedent
that
we
will
have
other
options,
but
when
the
amendment
was
first
made
was
my
understanding
that
these
people
should
not
be
denied
a
payment
because
of
nothing
that
they
did
not
do.
I
They
did
in
good
Faith,
completed
all
the
requirements
and
through
a
lottery
they
were
chosen.
Okay,
now,
at
that
time
they
did
not
qualify
and
I
thought.
The
amendment
was.
The
initial
amendment
was
because
we
did
not
have
a
second
on
one
for
cash
payments
to
everyone
else.
I
My
understanding
was
that
this
would
be
an
exception
that
I
was
willing
to
vote
on,
and
yet
we
could
have
another
discussion
on
an
amendment
that
will
open
up
the
program
to
cash
payments
for
all
beneficiaries,
but
that
wasn't
included,
but
to
my
understanding
on
the
amendment
that
were
asked
to
vote
on
today.
At
this
meeting,
thank
you.
C
C
C
G
C
C
Well
again,
I'm
not
saying
in
the
in
the
package:
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
in
the
packet,
but
I'm
saying
the
one
that
she
described
was
would
allow
would
only
allow
direct
cash
benefits.
If
someone
not
just
decline,
you
could
I
guess
you
could
decline,
purchasing
a
home
and
you
don't
have
a
mortgage
to
pay
down,
but
you
can't
decline
whether
or
not
you
have
direct
descendants.
C
That's
just
do
you
have
direct
descendants
or
not
and
and
so
I
just
want
to
I
heard
the
client
twice
that
if
you
decline
it
twice,
but
you
can
decline
that
you
don't
want
to
purchase
a
home.
You
can't
decline
direct
descendants,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
even
in
this
amendment
and
again
all
this
is
a
little
confused
now
what
people
have
to
say.
C
I
do
not
have
a
direct
descendant,
it
doesn't
mean
we
there
needs
to
be
any
additional
scrutiny,
but
would
they
need
to
at
least
say
I,
don't
have
a
direct
descendant
to
provide
this
benefit?
To
or
again
are
we
going
to
move
forward
with
what
councilmember
Reed
has
motion
for
and
was
properly
seconded
to
create?
No
restrictions,
no
limitations,
Direct
Cash
benefit
option
that
people
can
foreign
exercise
for
ancestors,
even
if
they
have
direct
descendants.
C
A
Forward
and
just
point
of
information,
there's
only
one
motion
on
the
floor
right
now,
so
it's
not
to
confuse
things.
B
So
so
that
to
that
point,
your
motion
is
for
a
fourth
option.
Your
emotion
is
not
for.
Excuse
me
the
the
way
that
we
are
being
directed
by
our
legal
department
that.
G
B
Declining
the
initial
program
options
and
having
that
in
lieu
of
the
other
options,
when,
when
the
other
options
are
not
eligible,.
A
Correct
you
know
again
if
the
logic
is
that
the
program
is
about
Building,
Wealth
I,
think
you
know.
Twenty
five
thousand
dollar
down
payment,
Bill
12,
25
000
cash-
builds
wealth
it
all
at
whether
it's
or
a
rental
payment.
It.
I
A
B
Right,
I
and
my
support
would
be
the
second
agenda
item
would
be
to
look
at
the
development
of
a
cash
benefit
program
and
honor
this
one,
with
the
exception
for
those
that
are
unable
to
use
the
benefit,
as
we
did
last
week,.
A
In
that
case,
yeah
in
that
case,
if
we're,
if
the
committee
is
going
to
deny
this
amendment,
if
the
committee
is
going
to
deny
my
Amendment
and
only
allow
an
exception,
such
as
in
the
case
of
the
weidmans,
which
we
can
expect,
you
know
if,
with
the
random
Lottery
with
16
people
drawn
two
people.
Having
had
this
happen,
there
will
likely
be
two
out
of
every
16
people
that
have
a
similar
issue.
A
If,
if
we're
going
to
deny
this
amendment,
then
I
think
we
should
just
create
a
clean
new
cash
payment
program
where
these
folks
get
to
go
to
the
front
of
the
line,
because
either
we're
willing
to
amend
this
program
in
a
substantial
way,
which
is
to
allow
for
direct
cash
payments
and
recognize
that
direct
cash
payments
can
also
build
generational
wealth
and
help
close
the
wealth,
Gap
and
folks
can
make
those
decisions
for
themselves
how
that
money
is
spent
or
we're
saying
No.
A
This
program
is
rigid,
and
this
program
has
a
specific
purpose,
and
so
we're
going
to
leave
the
program
as
it
is
sorry
to
the
weidmans
I'm,
sorry
to
anyone
else.
You
applied
for
a
program
that
you're
not
eligible
for,
but
look
with
Item
B.
We
are
developing
a
new
program
and
you
are
able
to
be
at
the
front
of
the
list
on
that
program.
To
me.
A
That
makes
some
sense,
but
to
amend
this
program
just
for
a
small
sliver
of
folks
and
who
aren't
eligible
for
the
program
that
they
applied
for
without
allowing
that
same
opportunity
for
everyone
who
applies
to
the
program
and
applied
for
a
program
that
they
were
eligible
for,
I
I,
don't
think,
makes
sense
and
I,
unfortunately,
have
to
vote
no
again
on
this
and
I
want
to
get
to
yes
and
make
sure
that
we're
doing
something
that
is
right
by
all
of
our
and
so
and
every
I
know.
A
Everyone
on
this
committee
wants
to
do
that.
So
I'm
not
doubting
anyone's
commitments
that
but
I
just
personally
couldn't
support
making
what
I
see
as
a
piecemeal
Amendment
and
not
go
on
the
full
measure
to
ensure
our
ancestors
have
flexibility
and
can
ensure
that
they're
getting
again.
This
is
not
just
about
you
know
the
Direct
Cash
benefit.
A
This
is
also
about
Expediting
this
process,
because,
if
we're
forcing
people
to
wait
in
line,
you
know
the
more
time
passes,
you
know
we're
losing
more
ancestors
we're
losing
more
seniors,
we're
losing
more
folks
who
deserve
this
payment
now
and
the
Direct
Cash
payment
amendment.
That
fourth
option
allows
those
folks
to
get
their
benefit
in
expedited
time
with
expediency,
and
so
I
think
that
you
know
should
also
be
a
part
of
the
focus,
particularly
for
the
ancestor
groups.
Mr
Sutton,
I
know
that
aligns
with
your
values.
A
I
know
that
you
want
to
see
your
brothers
and
sisters
and
folks
who
lived
through
this
period
get
the
benefit
that
they
deserve
and
not
have
to
wait
years
and
years
for
a
home
improvement
Grant
because
of
the
bottleneck
capacity
that
we
have
with
our
current
Partners
and
in
this
amendment
my
amendment
allows
those
folks
to
get
the
money
now
and
make
the
decisions
that
they,
you
know,
have
they're
70-something
years
old
I
think
they
have
the
wisdom
to
be
able
to
spend
that
money
in
a
way
that
helps
build
generational
wealth
or
you
know,
make
their
lives
better
for
themselves
in
our
community.
A
B
You
thank
you,
council,
member,
Reed
and
really
everyone
that
we
are
not
going
to
solve
all
the
harms
of
black
Evanston.
With
this
initial
program,
which
we
have
already
designed
implemented,
opened
up
an
application
process
and
set
a
standard,
we've
made
an
exception.
I
think
that
exception
should
be
consistent
throughout
the
balance
of
the
program.
B
But
what
I
hear
you
council,
member
Reed,
and
what
I
support
you
in
is
a
new
program,
an
additional
program,
one
in
addition
to
the
one
that
we
have
right
now,
which
is
the
restorative
housing
program,
and
so
it
is
not
it
it
is.
We
already
have
a
program
and
and
applicants
that
have
an
expectation
of
this
being
to
build
wealth
through
home
equity.
B
We
had
600
and
something
people
apply
under
that
condition,
and
so,
if
we
can
move
forward
with
allowing
those
that
decline,
the
other
options,
not
with
all
these
restrictions
that
have
been
suggested
but
declining
the
other
options,
just
as
the
weidmans
did
and
giving
them
the
the
fourth
option
in
lieu
of
not
being
eligible
for
the
other
uses,
we
can
move
forward
and
it
still
solves
that
challenge
that
you're
talking
about
being
able
to
disperse
cash
when
it
is
the
appropriate
option
for
the
recipient,
that
being
more
efficient,
we're
already
working
to
to
get
an
internal
staff
person
to
be
the
administrator
so
that
we
don't
have
any
value
misalignments
with
other
organizations.
B
We
are
there
we're
getting
there.
We
have
the
support
and
consensus
for
cash.
That
discussion
is
not
being
debated
on
this
committee.
It
is
not
being
debated
even
with
our
Corporation
Council,
but
there
is
a
process
that
we
have
to
move
forward
in
and
we
did
a
lot
of
work
to
establish
the
first
program,
which
I
believe
we
should
disperse
in
the
way
that
it
was
articulated
and
those
that
signed
up
for
the
program
or
applied
for
the
program.
B
So,
let's
not,
let's
not
throw
out
the
600
some
odd
applications
that
came
in
with
the
program
designed
as
it
was
that
initiative
and
that
priority
was
informed
by
Community
process
that
happened,
so
it
didn't
come
out
of.
You
know
a
very
limited
sort
of
scope
or
feedback.
It
came
from
the
community
members
that
participated
at
that
time.
Fortunately,
we
have
much
much
more
engagement.
B
The
residents
and
the
community
are
far
more
informed
on
what's
Happening
and
future
programs
will
be
even
better
informed,
but
I
do
think
that
what
you're
talking
about
is
a
future
program,
but
we'll
have
to
take
a
vote
on
that.
I
see:
council,
member
Burns
and
committee
members
Sutton.
If
you
walk
it
on
mute
yourself
in
the
order
that
you
choose.
C
I
Well,
I'll
call
the
previous
question:
let's
vote
on
Devon's
Amendment
at
this
time.
A
Yeah
my
Amendment
is
to
allow
for
direct
cash
payments
for
the
ancestor
group
as
a
fourth
option
or
as
an
additional
option.
B
Okay,
that
was
our
that
was
moved
and
it
was
seconded
by
council
member
Burns
already.
Who
else
do
we
have
in
this
meeting,
because
I
think:
okay,
okay,.
D
I
have
unreadiness,
I
fell
off
so
I'm,
just
getting
back
on
and
I'm
unclear
where
we're
at
I
already
said
we're
voting
on
something.
B
Yes,
council
member
reads:
initial
amendment
was
to
have
a
fourth
option,
a
fourth
option,
clean
of
any
decline
of
the
initial
options,
so
it
would
not
be
declining
the
other
options.
It
would
be
a
standalone
fourth
option.
A
Go
ahead
if
I
can
make
a
I
know,
the
councilmember
burns
had
his
hand
up.
If
I
can
make
a
final
comment
before
we
take
a
vote
of
course,
CM
Burns
did
you
have
anything
before
yeah.
C
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
I
I
think
it
would
be.
You
know
I'm
gonna,
vote
yesterday,
but
I
think
it
would
be
better
if
we
were
to
discuss
the
other
issue.
We've
had
a
good
discussion
on
this
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
discussion
on
the
other
program.
C
First
is
Item
B
and
because
there's
a
chance
that,
depending
on
what
we
decide
to
do
with
that
program,
it
may
make
this
issue
kind
of
a
moot
point
and
which
is
why
I
wanted
to
move
them
together,
but
at
the
very
least
it
would
be
great
if
we,
you
know,
table
this
for
now
and
discuss
the
item
B
first
and
then
came
back
to
vote
on
this
at
the
end
of.
C
We're
going
to
take
it
in
this
order,
you
know
about
vote
Yes.
B
And
I
hear
you,
council,
member
Burns
and
I
I
will
say
before
we
even
get
to
that
I'm
in
full
support
of
the
development
of
a
cash
benefit
program
in
full
support
have
always
been
in
support.
It
takes
work
to
get
there
I'm
willing
to
do
the
work,
so
it
sounds
like
we're
there
now
so
that,
but
that's
different
than
the
discussion
that
we
have
before
us
right
now.
A
You
should
vote
no
to
this
and
you
should
vote
no
to
any
amendment
that
allows
for
direct
cash
payments.
If
your
concern
is
keeping
the
program
as
it
is,
and
and
and
and
and
keeping
it
focused
on
housing
vote
no
to
this
vote,
no
to
any
Direct
Cash
payment
amendment
to
this
program,
including
an
allowance
for
the
weidmans,
because
we
had
a
program
folks
signed
up
for
that
program.
If
you're
ineligible
for
the
program
that
you
signed
up
for
you're
ineligible.
A
But
if
you
believe
that
direct
cash
payments
also
align
with
the
mission
of
this
goal
right,
if
you
believe
it's
good
for
the
weidmans,
my
grandmother
who's,
an
ancestor
who
lived
in
this
category,
you
know
said:
what's
good
for
the
goose
is
good
for
the
gander,
and
so,
if
you
believe
this
is
good
for
the
weidmans.
A
This
is
good
for
everyone
who
is
in
the
ancestor
category,
and
you
know
yes,
we
can,
and
also,
if
we're
going
to
talk
about
B
I
support,
councilmember
Burns
in
the
idea
of,
if
folks
aren't
ready
to
vote
for
allowing
direct
cash
payments
for
all
ancestors
I
would
support.
Tablings
I
also
will
say
that
the
discussion
about
direct
cash
payments
doesn't
need
to
be
some
huge
discussion
about
creating
some
new
program.
We've
created
the
program.
We've
created
the
guidelines.
We
know
the
guidelines.
What
the
guidelines
are.
We
know
how
we
qualify.
A
A
So
I,
don't
think
that
we
need.
You
know
some
prolonged
discussion
that
that
spans
meetings
and
meetings
I
think
we're
ready
to
either
say
yes,
we
trust
black
folks
or
or
know
we.
We
continue
to
think
that
government
needs
to
dictate
for
folks
how
they
build
wealth
for
themselves
and,
while
I
agree.
Homeownership
is
a
great
way
to
build
wealth.
There
are
other
means
of
doing
that.
A
There
are
other
ways
means
of
repairing
the
harm
that
was
caused
to
this
community
is,
is
our
shared
woman
has
pointed
out
in
in
a
number
of
meetings.
The
harm
is
wide.
It's
it's
Health
Care
inequities.
It
is
policing,
it
is
housing.
It's
all
of
these
things
combined
and
the
remedy
should
be
just
as
encompassing
as
the
harm
and
I
think.
A
These
direct
cash
benefits,
particularly
for
the
ancestors,
achieves
just
that
and
Mr
Sutton
chairwoman,
councilwoman
Harris
I
urge
you
to
vote
Yes
on
the
current
Amendment
again,
particularly
because
it's
for
our
seniors
for
our
ancestors
and
we
can
get
this
money
out
to
them.
We
have
the
money
in
the
bank
now
ready
to
be
dispersed.
Let's
get
it
out
to
them.
Let's
let
them
make
decisions
for
themselves
and
for
their
families
that
will
help
them,
build
generational
wealth
and
live
the
healthiest.
You
know
their
healthiest
years
to
come.
B
Thank
you,
council
member,
you
know,
I
agree
with
the
things
that
you're
saying,
but
some
things
are
being
conflated.
We're
not
saying
no
one
here
has
argued
against
cash.
B
B
It
doesn't
have
to
be
a
prolonged
discussion,
but
the
work
has
to
get
done,
and
so
we
have
been
given
some
Direction
by
Corporation
Council
on
the
additional
information
that
the
department
would
need
to
to
be
able
to
feel
confident
about
our
program
like,
let's
not
forget
that
our
program
has
had
legal
challenges
or
threats
of
them
anyway,
so
there
is
also
legal
framework.
There
is,
you
know
the
way
it
has
to
pass
through
developing
any
type
of
policy.
B
We
just
have
to
do
the
work
to
get
there
and
the
committee
is
supporting
doing
the
work
to
get
to
a
cash
benefit
program,
but
let's
not
get
in
the
way
of
this
initial
program.
We
know
that
you
voted
against
the
weidman's
receiving
a
cash
benefit
last
week.
I
understand
the
principles
that
you're
standing
on
there,
but
we
need
to
move
forward
with
dispersing
the
benefits
to
the
hundred
and
some
odd
ancestors
that
are
waiting.
B
Some
of
them
will,
probably,
as
you
stated
two
out
of
16-
will
likely
have
the
same
exception,
exception
and
be
able
to
decline
the
initial
benefits
and
receive
a
cash
benefit
more
efficiently
and
and
so
with
that
I
I
feel
like
we're
their
council
member
Reed.
Our
next
meeting
can
be
to
develop
and
Implement
and
send
to
committee
a
cash
benefit
program.
There
is
consensus
here,
but
we
do
have
work
before
us
for
this
restorative
housing
program
and
16
600,
plus
applicants
that
apply
under
the
design
of
this
restorative
housing
program.
B
D
Thank
you
for
recognizing
me.
So
what
I
want
to
be
careful
is
precedence.
D
D
It's
under
scrutiny,
it's
under
scrutiny
by
a
variety
of
people
who
want
this
to
not
go
well,
people
that
want
to
go
well
but
have
a
difference
of
opinions
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
Precedence
the
rules,
the
guidelines
that
we
set
We
are
following
and
that
we're
not
breaking
those
rules,
we're
not
breaking
legal
ramifications
and
that
we're
not
breaking
the
trust
of
our
community
in
which
we're
trying
to
serve
and
I
know.
That's
what
all
of
this
discussion
is
about
again.
D
I
just
want
us
to
do
the
right
thing
and
stand
on
that.
Whether
that
hurts
or
not
is
what
we
have
to
do,
and
I
am
a
very
appreciative
of
the
conversations
that
we're
having
right
now.
So
as
long
as
we're
doing
the
right
things
and
serving
our
community
serving
our
ancestors,
like
you
said,
repair
is
so
much
more
than
a
financial
giving
and
we
have
to
make
sure
we're
working
on
all
of
those
which
we
are.
Thank.
You.
B
Thank
you,
Committee
Member,
Sutton,.
I
I've
already
called
for
the
previous
question,
so
I
I
thankful
for
all
the
discussion,
but
I'm
gonna
call
for
the
previous
question.
So
we
can
vote
on
this
and
I
vote.
Yes.
L
B
I
C
I
I
B
Okay,
so
that
Amendment
passes
next
agenda
item
we
have
to
be
is
development
of
a
cash
payment
program.
We
have
had
much
discussion
on
that.
We
have
some
direction
from
our
Corporation
Council
on.
What's
going
to
be
needed,
and
someone
has
to
do
that.
B
Work
to
get
the
information
I
would
be
willing
to
reach
out
to
Partners
to
get
the
reports
necessary
to
satisfy
the
requests
of
our
Law
Department
so
that
it
can
go
forward
with
a
recommendation
from
this
committee
and
to
the
city
council
with
evidence
and
strength
so
that
it
could
be
successful.
I
Yeah
I
agree
with
that
100
and
also
I
want
to
commend
the
number
of
participants
that
are
on
the
line
today.
This
is
the
largest
number
we've
had
so
yes,
Robin.
Let's
proceed.
B
Perfect
and
so
council
member
Burns
did
you
want
to
move
that
and
offer
invitation
to
any
further
discussion
if
necessary,
I,
don't
know
what
more
we
could
discuss
today,
but
please,
let's
go
through
that
process.
G
C
A
I'll
move
approval
of
Direct
Cash
benefit
program
for
our
reparations
initiative.
B
A
Development
up,
yes,
the
development
of
it
yes,
and
so
in
line
with
what
councilmember,
Simmons
I'm
sorry
committee,
chair,
Ruth,
Simmons,
said
I.
Think
you
know
we're
prepared
to
have
this
discussion.
A
B
Okay,
it's
been
moved
and
seconded
by
councilwoman
Harris,
so
we
will
have
that
on
a
future
agenda.
Is
there
any
other
discussion.
B
So
with
that
we're
going
to
move
in
before
we
move
into
public
comment
to
Chic
as
you're.
Getting
that
ready,
I
would
also
like
staff
to
and
out
I'll
assist
as
I'm
able
to
work
on
our
initial
recommendations
that
came
from
the
community
in
2019
and
work
through
that
list,
showing
where
we've
already
met
some
of
the
expectations
of
the
community.
Where
we
have
achieved
some
reparation
benefits
in
all
areas,
not
just
this
restorative
housing
program.
B
So
I
would
like
a
report
at
our
next
meeting
on
the
initial
recommendations,
and
then
I
would
also
like
that
report
to
separate
out-
and
we've
done
this
already,
but
we
can
separate
and
bring
to
the
attention
the
rest
of
Evanston,
the
rest
of
the
institutions
in
town
that
historically
harm
black
community
through
all
kinds
of
ways.
This
is
including
Northwestern
University.
This
is
including
other
Industries
just
have
to
really
lift
up
our
districts,
65
for
approving
and
passing
a
Fifth
Ward
School
returning
to
to
our
community.
B
So
at
our
next
meeting
we
need
to
come
with
a
report
so
that
we
aren't
paralyzed
in
this
initial
restorative
housing
program
as
if
there
aren't
other
ways
to
repair
the
harm
and
as
if
this
is
the
conclusion
of
our
work,
so
I'm,
hoping
that
this
will
be
a
call
to
action
to
more
partners
and
others
that
represent
institutions
that
are
also
responsible
for
the
racial
wealth,
Gap,
the
education,
Gap,
the
health
inequities
and
so
on
in
this
community.
B
Additionally,
I
would
like
to
add
that
I
have
had
a
request,
so
I
will
expect
it
at
a
future
meeting
that
we
have
a
report,
a
financial
report
that
includes
our
real
estate
transfer
taxes
as
well
as
what
can
be
disclosed
of
our
cannabis
sales
tax.
That
is
something
I
would
like
to
see
going
forward
in
all
of
our
meetings,
so
there's
more
transparency
in
our
funds.
Since
there
has
been
some
question
about
us,
not
sharing
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
share
every
bit
of
information
that
we
can
Tashi.
B
Can
you
give
us
any
feedback
on
the
the
financial
reports
and
how
we
should
expect
to
receive
them?
Moving
forward.
A
L
Committee
Member
Sutton,
he
left
his
chair,
councilmember
Harris,
aye,.
L
B
Thank
you
so
Tashi.
Can
you
give
us
an
expectation
on
what
we
will
expect
moving
forward,
yeah.
B
L
I
can
definitely
include
the
treasure
the
treasury
report
that
shows.
B
L
B
L
The
the
amount
in
the
transfer
tax-
yes,
yes,
let
me
look
for
that
after
public
comment,.
L
22
residents
have
signed
up
the
first
I,
don't
see
Genevieve
Wade,
so
I'm
going
to
go
to
Michael
trap
and
if
you're
called
upon
I'm
going
to
promote
you
into
the
webinar.
So
just
click
on
the
promote
link.
B
Okay,
we
have
two
minutes
for
public
comment:
Michael.
J
J
H
H
Yes,
yeah
I
didn't
have
a
question
more
or
less
comment
the
people
that
didn't
that
it
that
didn't
apply
that
could
fall
under
the
Wyman
exception.
Now.
What
happens
in
that
case.
B
B
There
will
be
future
applications
to
open
and
that's
the
discussion
that
you're
seeing
today,
we
move
to
move
forward
with
a
cash
benefit
program
that
will
need
to
be
developed
in
past
city
council.
So
more
information
to
come
to
for
that.
E
E
I'm
glad
that
there's
options
on
the
table
for
people
to
choose
what's
best
for
them,
but
definitely
Cash
Direct
cash
payments
should
have
been
on
the
table
day,
one
as
an
option
because
it
does
help
to
build
wealth
and
let
grown
people
decide
what
they're
going
to
do
with
their
taxes.
We
actually
brought
up
the
issue
of
taxes
three
years
ago
with
legal
with
Peter
Braithwaite
with
the
reparations
committee,
and
we
were
all
the
door
was
just
always
kind
of
shut
in
our
face.
No
response
to
that.
E
E
That's
that's
been
a
discussion
for
three
years
now,
but
thank
you
all
and
thank
you
again,
all
the
person
Devon
Reed.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
and
black
people
should
not
have
to
go
through
this
much
difficulty
and
confusion
for
their
reparations.
If
we
were
another
group,
we
wouldn't
even
be
having
this
meeting
right
now
or
this
discussion,
but
we're
black,
and
this
is
what
we're
faced
with
and
we
know
you
did
not
want
direct
cash
payments
because
you'll
lose
control.
L
L
K
Yes,
hi
I'm.
Sorry,
it
wasn't
connected
right
away.
K
Yeah
I
was
actually
just
calling
to
voice
my
support
of
the
cash
payment
because
I'm
wondering
if
there
are
people
who
perhaps
have
a
lot
of
bills
and
other
debts
that
they
can
use
that
money
for
to
get
them
back
on
a
you
know,
good
Financial
track
so
I'm
all
in
favor
of
that
cash.
You
know
payment
being
an
option
in
the
future,
so
I
appreciate
all
you're
doing,
keep
up
the
good
work
and
I'm
following
every
meeting
to
be
informed.
Thank
you.
M
Good
afternoon
or
good
morning,
we're
still
in
morning,
can
you
hear
me?
Can
everyone
hear
me?
Okay,
good!
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Rose
Cannon
I'm,
a
founding
member
of
Evanston,
rejects
racist
reparations.
I
want
to
commend
Alderman
Reed
for
pushing
through
this
amendment,
we've
been
waiting
a
long
time
for
cash
payments.
That's
what
we
always
wanted
in
the
very
beginning
and
Robin.
We
remember
you
saying
you
wanted
it
too,
but
then,
in
a
matter
of
two
or
three
months
you
changed
her
mind
and
said:
no.
M
This
would
go
into
this
would
go
into
a
housing
allotment
which
we
we've
never
wanted.
We've
always
wanted
cash
payments,
I'd
like
for
you
to
hurry
along
and
and
pay
the
remaining
ancestors
that
are
dying
off
as
we
as
we
wait
for
you
guys
to
pay
them
there
are.
There
are
600
plus
people
waiting
to
see
what
you're
going
to
do
so
in
the
meantime,
I
I,
you
concentrate
on
these
cash
payments
and
forget
about
all
the
other
things
that
that
your
committee
wants
to
work
on.
We
can
do
our
education
here.
M
G
Yes,
I
would
just
like
to
say
that,
if
you're
doing
a
Justice
claim
for
four
centuries
of
harm
that
has
been
backed
by
government
sanctioned
entities,
I
don't
think
the
President
should
be
a
piecemeal
paternalistic
program.
Justice
is
not
about
incrementally
getting
something
that
is
supposed
to
be
feasible.
It
means
total
repair
of
harm,
and
that
would
be
generational,
I'd
like
to
say,
I
learned
those
principles
from
a
gentleman
by
the
name
of
Sandy
darity
and
his
wife,
a
Kirsten
Mullen,
who
have
a
book
that
explains
it.
G
B
N
Hi
yes,
I'd
like
to
just
say
that
I
think
everybody
I
want
to
thank
everybody
on
the
panel
today.
Today's
discussion
was
really
really
a
powerful
discussion
that
we're
having
here
in
we're,
starting
to
as
far
as
I
can
tell
kind
of
break
away
from
a
bit
of
a
plateau
I'm.
Certainly
in
favor
of
what
Miss
Simmons
is
kind
of
mapping
out
I.
N
Think
she's
in
favor
of
you
know
continuing
to
craft
the
language
that
we
need
to
get
the
community
what
we
really
want
and
what
that
is,
Is
wealth
and,
as
we
know,
it
comes
in
many
different
ways.
What
I
don't
want
to
do?
What
I
don't
want
to
see
us
do
as
a
community
member
trying
to
keep
up
is
us
all.
The
discussion
is
is
necessary,
but
sometimes
we
just
need
to
to
use
both
ideas,
they're
all
really
good
ideas
and
they're
all
moving
us
forward.
N
So
I
don't
want
us
to
to
get
caught
up
on
that
because
it's
harder
for
us
community
members
to
kind
of
keep
up
with
all
the
language
and
and
lastly,
I
just
want
to
say
that
I'm
in
agreement
with
Mr,
Sutton
or
I
should
say,
I
want
to
expand
on
what
I
heard
Mr
Sutton
say
in
which
I
think
now
is
the
time
for
us
to
take
advantage
of
the
opportunity
to
set
precedence.
N
You
don't
get
a
lot
of
opportunity
too
often
to
or
or
the
necessity
to
set
precedence,
but
this
group
has
set
precedence
and
I
think
when
the
opportunity
shows
itself,
we
should
continue
to
set
further
precedence,
because
that's
not
something
that
you
often
get
get
the
opportunities
to
do.
Thank
you.
B
L
Well,
Mr,
okay,
Mr
Johnson
figure
out
how
to
unmute
Miss
Hayden.
Can
you.
O
Hi
good
morning,
so,
of
course,
I
have
been
an
advocate
of
cash
payment
since
the
Inception
of
this
program,
you
said
at
Council
and
voted
on
that
the
first
400
000
was
a
housing
program.
Then
you
said
that
it
would
open
up
to
other
programs.
Therefore,
you
must
open
the
application
up
for
a
direct
cash
payment.
Otherwise
this
is
discrimination
and
misleading
the
public.
O
So
all
of
the
persons
that
applied
that
you
passed
under
the
400
000
at
Council
were
assuming
that
it
was
a
housing
program.
So
now
everyone
must
be
afforded
a
direct
cash
payment.
The
application
must
open
up
expeditiously
under
the
same
criteria
as
the
housing
program.
So
I
will
assume
that
immediately
you
would
be
opening
up
the
application
for
everyone
outside
of
the
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
get
Direct
Cash
payment
I
will
continue
to
advocate
for
correct
Direct,
Cash,
payment
and
I
hope.
O
This
will
be
permanent
and
immediate,
since
many
of
the
seniors
are
older
and
very
many
not
in
good
health.
O
O
L
Mr
Bennett
Johnson
I
see
that
he's
on
mute,
Mr
Johnson.
We
can't
hear
you
so
while
Mr
Johnson
figure
that
out
I
don't
see
Rodney
green
online
Charlene.
P
D
P
To
have
their
particular
concerns
included,
but
I
believe
that
that
needs
to
be
done
in
conjunction
with
the
way
the
reparations
committee,
especially
the
chairman,
are
unfolding
this
and
to
have
some
understanding
about
that,
because
it's
one
thing
to
to
to
to
to
to
want
to
have
something
happen.
It's
a
whole
other
ball
game
to
move
it
into
legislation
which
she
and
the
reparations
people
have
been,
has
succeeded
to
do
in
a
beginning
way.
P
So
I
at
my
age
I
get
irritated
to
hear
some
of
the
rocks
being
thrown
at
out
of
Robin
Bruce
Simmons
it.
It
irritates
me
my
reason.
That
was
not
my
reason
for
crawling,
but
I
needed
to
say
that,
in
view
of
all
the
things
I've
listened
to
this
morning,
I
was
calling
this
morning
basically
to
ask
Robin
when
I
came
to
the
meeting
of
that.
The
listening
meeting
I
had
mentioned
about
the
lottery
and
I
failed
to
get
the
information
on
how
to
make
that
contact
with
you
Robin
before
I
left.
P
The
meeting
so
I
would
very
much
appreciate
it.
If
you
could
tashiq
has
my
email,
because
I
did
email
her.
If
you
could
get
that
information
to
me,
so
that
I
can
do
something,
in
addition
to
bring
to
bring
some
other
money
in
instead
of
trying
to
squeeze
everything
out
of
you
out,
there
are
many
other
things
that
we're
entitled
to
in
jobs
and
and
and
inventions
that
we've
never
been
paid.
For,
though
these
are
things
that
people
who
want
money
could
also
support.
Instead
of
constantly
jumping
on
you.
B
Thank
you
to
that
point.
What
has
been
discussed
is
a
option
to
get
additional
revenue
for
more
repair.
B
A
lot
of
State
regulated
and
anyone
that
has
an
idea
there
is
there
is
a
open
process.
Public
comment.
The
committee
wants
to
hear
from
you
this
listening
sessions
that
we're
going
to
do
quarterly
is
an
attempt
to
get
more
feedback
from
the
community,
but
but
Grievances
and
attacks.
Just
they
don't
pass
policy
Facebook.
C
C
P
Not
talking
to
you
but
anyway,
all
I
would
like
is,
if
you
would
have
someone
or
if
you
would
please
send
me
the
contact
so
that
I
can
get
busy
dealing
with
the
lottery
situation
to
hopefully
bring
other
Revenue
in.
If
you
would
just
do
that
for
me,
thank
you.
J
Okay,
I
had
a
lot
to
say
that
I
think
is
almost
a
waste
of
time.
Many
people,
including
myself,
would
love
direct
cash
payments,
but
there's
laws
that
have
to
be
passed
we
have
to
think
about
who
is
out.
There
is
going
to
challenge
whatever
we
put
in
this
place.
There
was
a
program
for
housing,
so
that
criteria
must
be
met.
Now
you
can
have
exceptions
if.
J
Then
you
have
other
programs.
Nobody
ever
thought.
This
was
going
to
be
all
of
our
reparations
for
Evanston.
Nobody
with
any
good
sense
or
intellect
thought
that
and
of
course,
I
am
a
senior
I
want
to
see
my
people,
my
peers,
receive
benefits
if
in
fact
they
cannot
meet
the
criteria.
Exceptions
will
be
made
I'm
confident
of
that,
but
these
attacks
on
people
who
work
there
is
ridiculous.
L
We're
going
to
come
back
to
Mr,
Bennett
Johnson,
a
dream:
Adrian
is
our
last
president.
Yep.
L
Q
Q
One
of
us
wasn't:
one
of
us
wanted
cash
payments,
which
would
have
was
me
and
we
did
everything
we
needed
to
do
and
went
we
registered
and
they
signed
up,
and
so
they
are
part
of
the
people
that
will
be
with
the
housing
program.
I'm
in
Wheeling
I
did
not
want
to
buy
a
home
in
Evanston,
I
didn't
want
to
I'm,
happy
and
really
I
wanted
cash
payment.
So
I
said:
okay,
I'll
wait
for
another
program.
Q
My
sisters
were
mad,
they
was
like
no,
you
should
go
ahead
and
sign
up
now,
no
matter
what
we've
got
all
that
we
brought
all
this
paperwork.
We've
got
all
these
things
you
need
to.
You
know
right
here.
You
have
to
dig
all
this
stuff
out
later
and
try
and
do
I
said:
okay,
that's,
okay,
I'm
I'm!
Trusting
that's
it's
going
to
be
good,
you
guys
go
ahead
and
they
so
I
didn't
so
now,
they're
in
the
program
for
that
I'm.
Q
Not
so
now,
I've
got
to
wait
for
all
these
600
people
to
get
the
cash
payment,
which
is
what
I
was
hoping
for
at
the
beginning
in,
but
here's
the
thing
I'm
still
supporting
them:
I'm
Still,
Loving
them
I'm,
still
raising
hand
I'm
wearing
the
rep
I'm
I'm
all
there
for
them
anyway,
which
is
what
we
all
should
still
be
doing.
This
I
can't
believe
that
there
is
such
negativity
going
on
in
Ellison
about
this
I
mean
we're
gonna
get
this
figured
out,
and
should
nobody
should
be
throwing
no
stones
and
Bricks
of
people?
Q
This
is
just
really
bothering
me.
So
that's
one
thing.
The
second
thing,
the
other
thing
is
there's
I.
Think
of
a
fifth
option,
which
I
mentioned
a
long
time
ago,
three
or
four
years
ago
that
we
should
try
to
get
somewhere
where
we
can
have
people
are
able
to
go
back
to
Africa.
You
know
a
triple
four
family
members
of
four
are
able
to
go
to
Africa.
We
that's
the
whole
thing.
Q
We've
got
broad
here,
you
know,
so
we
should
be
able
to
the
Jews
get
to
go
to
Israel,
there's
some
type
of
program.
For
them
we
should
be
able
to
go,
have
a
free
trip
to
go
to
Africa.
That's
the
other,
so
figure
that
out
some
kind
of
have
that
in
there
some
kind
of
way
as
an
option.
You
know
where
they
they've
got
it
off
program.
They
got
it
I
figured
out.
Q
We
got
tour
guides
we
just
get
to
you
know
we
use
our
money,
it's
all
handled,
then
the
other
thing
thing
is:
are
we
going
to
have
a
float
reparations
float
for
Juneteenth.
B
B
L
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
Mr
Bennett
Johnson,
see
if
he
has
the
audio
worked
out.
Mr
Johnson.
L
Hey
I
can't
hear
we
can't
hear
you
Mr
Johnson,
you
can
just
send
me
an
email,
Mr
Johnson
and
that
will
communicate
your
public
comment
to
the
reparations
committee.
Going
back
to
your
question.
Otherwise,
Simmons
of
how
much
is
in
the
transfer
attacks
as
of
February,
we
have
330
865
dollars.
L
A
B
A
B
C
Could
I
say
one
last
thing:
I'm
sorry,
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
the
committee
did
receive
information
about
the
tax
liability
question
I
think
it
was
suggested
in
the
comments
that
for
the
past
three
years,
the
committee
has
not
sought
clarification
on
those
questions.
C
That
information
was
sought
out
and
I
think
likely
has
led
to
what
was
approved
today
being
approved.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
Burns
and
yes,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
baseless
public
comment
which
really
grateful
for
the
residents
and
all
of
those
that
add
productive
feedback.
Even
when
it
is
critique,
we
are
learning
from
it.
Our
program
has
been
informed
by
the
community
since
day,
one
and
council
member
Harris.
If
you
could
give
us
our
final
comment,
I
see
your
hand
is
up
and
then
adjourn
the
meeting.
Yes.
D
Most
definitely
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
echo
what
you
started
saying
and
to
say
that
I
appreciate
people
coming
to
the
table.
I
think
we
have
no
issues
as
adulthood
was
mentioned
before
we're
all
adults,
and
we
have
no
problem
with
the
difficult
questions.
I
think
the
manner
and
tone
in
which
people
ask
them
is
where
we
get
held
up
and
it's
unfortunate
because
everybody
is
trying
to
do
the
work
on
both
sides
of
this
agenda.
So
with
that
being
said,
I'd
like
to
call
for
a
German.