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A
Good
evening
this
is
a
public
hearing
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals.
The
zoning
ordinance
empowers
us
to
hear
references
from
the
City
Council
petitions
from
other
parties
for
variances
and
special
uses
and
appeals
from
decisions
of
the
Zoning
Administrator.
We
hear
testimony
from
those
in
attendance
and
then
make
formal
findings
of
fact,
based
on
the
evidence
presented,
which
consists
of
testimony
and
exhibits
and
on
our
knowledge
of
the
community.
We
then
either
make
a
determination
or
recommendation
to
City
Council.
A
Your
testimony
is
taken
under
oath,
although
we
do
not
apply
the
strict
rules
of
evidence
and
procedures.
We
ask
that
you
keep
your
testimony
relevant
to
the
proposal
as
it
relates
to
the
standards
contained
in
the
zoning
ordinance
and
under
five
minutes.
When
you
testify,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
print
your
name
on
the
sign-in
sheet
provided
outside
of
the
door.
Each
case
will
be
introduced
by
staff
and
a
list
of
documents
will
be
read
into
the
record.
Then
the
applicant
will
give
an
explanation
of
the
proposal
after
that.
A
A
D
A
All
right,
I'll
swear
in
anyone
now
who
plans
to
give
testimony
in
any
of
the
cases
scheduled
for
tonight.
If
you
plan
to
speak
at
the
podium-
and
you
have
put
your
name
on
the
sign-in
sheet
back
there
I'd
like
you
to
raise
your
right
hand,
do
you
swear
and
affirm
that
the
testimony
you
will
provide
in
connection
with
the
case
will
be
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth.
Thank
you,
okay.
B
This
property
owner
applies
for
major
zoning
relief
for
a
second-story
addition
to
a
commercial
building
in
the
b1
business
district,
with
a
7
foot
set
7
inch,
South
interior
side
yard
setback
for
an
EVE
yard,
obstruction.
Sorry
7
feet
where
9
feet
is
required.
Zoning
code,
section
6,
4,
1,
9
and
4
3
parking
spaces
where
for
parking
spaces
are
required
to
Zone.
B
In
code
section
616
3
1
table
16
B,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
makes
a
recommendation
to
City
Council
the
determining
body
for
this
project
included
with
the
documents
and
testimony
on
record
are
very
variation.
Application
submitted,
April,
25th,
2019
zoning
analysis,
plaintiff
survey,
site
plan,
elevations,
image
of
property,
aerial
view
of
property,
zoning
map
of
property
and
dapper
meeting
minutes,
excerpt
of
May
8
2019.
H
H
Sherman
Evanston,
okay,
so
this
is
an
existing
office.
Building
that
I've
had
for
a
while
aesthetically,
there's
kind
of
a
front
building
and
a
rear
building
we're
not
doing
anything
to
the
front
building
the
rear
building
is
some
shops
and
and
parking
right
now,
I'm
proposing
an
addition
on
the
second
floor
and
some
rehabilitation
of
a
portion
of
the
rear
first
floor.
H
We
are
asking
for
relief
for
three
parking
spaces
where
floor
is
required.
There
we're
putting
as
many
parking
spaces
as
we
can
and
for
the
width
of
the
building,
so
in
other
words,
we
would
have
to
go
deeper
into
the
building.
To
put
one
point:
one
or
more
spots
we're
adding
spots.
There's
a
presently
there's
presently
two
spots
and
we're
adding
a
spot
for
that.
The
side
yard
setback
is
a
I
guess
we're
asking
for
two
feet
allowance
on
that.
H
You
can
see
it
there
and
the
purpose
of
that
is
that
perfect
for
protection
of
the
of
the
wall
there
it's
on
the
north
side
of
the
building,
so
it
doesn't
affect
anything
on
the
lot
adjacent
lot.
Its
purpose
is
to
shade
the
unit
and,
by
the
way,
I'm
sorry
these
will
be
live
work
units
which
I
think
is
very
appropriate
for
the
neighborhood
there's
enough,
quite
a
few
of
them
in
the
neighborhood
and
seem
to
be
in
great
demand.
C
C
H
There's
presently
for
tenants,
one
tenant
use
it
utilizes.
What
could
be
a
couple
more
offices,
but
they
have
a
suite
of
offices.
Okay,.
C
C
H
It's
essentially
all
one
building,
if
you
maybe
I,
wasn't
clear
on
that.
So
if
you
see
on
that
the
kind
of
reddish
part
to
the
to
the
right
of
that
picture
on
the
on
the
right,
that's
what
I'm
calling
the
front
building
they're
they're
a
budding
and
they're
connected
and
and
all
of
that,
but
one
was
built
a
little
later
than
the
others.
I'm
not
extrude,
sir
one.
So
I
kind
of
kind
of
aesthetically,
think
of
them
as
two
separate
buildings,
but
they're
they're,
all
one
building.
So.
A
I
H
H
J
D
Other
questions,
just
in
response
to
your
question,
Scott
the
or
the
question
about
the
parking
the
packet
states
that
he
is
increasing
the
parking
from
current
one
space
to
three
spaces,
and
you
know
that
it's
a
fairly
walkable
neighborhood
I,
with
only
the
addition
of
only
to
live
work
units
I,
would
think
that
that
might
be
sufficient
parking.
C
E
A
E
Have
one
additional
question:
have
you
yourself
talked
to
the
neighbors
I
know
that
you
know
it's
a
pretty
tight-knit
community
over
there
with
you
know
existing
businesses
and
residents
have
you
had
communication
with
the
neighbors?
Are
you
aware
of
any
folks
that
are
concerned
about
the
proposal?
I've.
H
E
D
I
would
like
to
say
that
I
think
this
is
having
I'm
really
familiar
with
the
building,
and
this
is
quite
an
enhancement.
The
rear
of
that
building
has
been
it's
been
a
mainstay
in
the
neighborhood
with
the
round
table
and
before
that
Rockwell
architects,
and
so
it's
had
always
had
good
substantial
businesses,
but
I
will
say
that
there
were
more
people
in
the
building
before
them.
D
C
This
is
this
is
a
b1,
zoned
neighborhood,
and
so
in
my
view,
that
makes
the
considerations
slightly
different
than
if
it
than
if
it
were
a
purely
residential
situation,
there's
business
and
residential
in
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
therefore
I
think
the
zoning
variation
related
to
the
overhang
of
the
eave
is
minimal
and
doesn't
add,
wouldn't
add
significant
bulk.
That
would
be
out
of
character
with
the
neighborhood
and
has
obviously,
as
the
testimony
given
has
an
important
function.
The
parking
is
always
concerning
to
me
requests
for
variations
where
there's
less
parking
than
is
required.
C
Inevitably,
spills
into
the
neighborhoods,
however,
I
have
found
in
my
9
plus
years
on
this
board
that
when
parking
is
going
to
be
an
issue,
people
show
up
in
droves
to
complain
about
it.
Nobody
has
done
so
in
this
case
and
so
I
believe
it
probably
is
not
going
to
be
an
issue
for
this
neighborhood.
So
I'm
I
think
it
seems
like
a
great
project,
with
a
really
nice
design
and
supported
as
well.
I.
E
K
A
A
Alright
I
am
going
to
read
the
standards
for
the
CBA
to
recommend
approval
of
a
variance.
We
must
find
that
the
proposed
proposed
variance
a
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
impact
on
the
use,
enjoyment
or
property
values
of
adjoining
properties.
The
surrounding
properties
are
a
mix
of
single-family
and
one
in
two
part:
commercial
buildings,
the
massing
height
and
size
of
the
proposed
addition
is
consistent
with
proximate
buildings.
A
The
addition
does
not
negatively
impact
the
significant
architectural
integrity
of
the
eastern
portion
of
the
building,
which
fronts
floors
B
is
in
keeping
with
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
The
proposed
addition
promotes
the
public
health
morals
and
general
welfare
and
objectives
of
the
comprehensive
general
plan,
as
well
as
enhanced
the
taxable
value
of
a
currently
dilapidated
section
of
the
property.
A
The
proposal
preserves
the
scale
and
pedestrian
orientation
of
the
facade
fronting
Florence
Avenue,
while
enhancing
its
ability
to
accommodate,
live,
work,
space
and
provide
additional
vitality
to
the
West
Village
artists
in
clave,
which
is
what
this
is
called.
C,
has
a
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
that
is
peculiar
to
the
property.
The
lot
and
building
size
and
width
are
existing
and
cannot
be
altered
without
impacting
adjacent
properties
or
enduring
significant
structural
modifications,
which
would
not
provide
reasonable
space
for
future
live
work.
A
Tenants,
D
property
owners
would
suffer
a
particular
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
as
English
from
a
mere
inconvenience.
The
construction
without
zoning
relief
would
result
in
significant
structural
modifications
and
undue
hardship
for
the
applicant
and
result
in
a
reduced
floor
area,
which
would
not
provide
adequate
space
for
live
work.
Tenants
II,
is
not
based
exclusively
on
a
desire
to
extract
additional
income
from
the
property
or
public
benefit
to
the
hall
will
be
derived.
The
existing
non-conforming
parking
count
is
improved
to
the
maximum
extent
possible
within
the
existing
site
constraints.
A
The
addition
of
live
workspace
will
add
vitality
to
the
existing
West,
Village
artists
and
clave,
and
positively
supports
the
existing
neighborhood
business
district
does
not
have
a
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
that
was
created
by
any
person
having
an
interest
in
the
property.
The
property
was
constructed
at
its
size
and
width.
Prior
to
the
current
ownership.
A
G
is
limited
to
the
minimum
change
necessary
to
alleviate
the
particular
hardship
or
practical
difficulty.
The
proposed
eaves
are
the
minimum
necessary
to
provide
a
habitable
and
functional
live-work
space
within
the
existing
lot
limitations.
The
existing
non-conforming
parking
count
is
improved
to
the
maximum
extent
possible
within
the
existing
lot
limitations.
Does
everyone
concur?
Somebody
want
to
call
I.
C
Will
make
a
motion
in
the
matter?
Well,
because
this
involves
parking
variations.
This
is
a
recommendation
to
City
Council
rather
than
an
approval,
but
I
move
in
the
matters.
Eba
remember:
19,
cm
JB,
zero,
zero,
three
eight
regarding
the
properties
1124
Florence,
Avenue,
that
we
recommend
approval
of
the
variations
requested
subject
to
the
condition
that
the
property
be
developed
in
accordance
with
the
documents
submitted
and
testimony
given
tonight.
B
Davit
and
Jacqueline
McGuire
property
owners
apply
for
major
zoning
relief
for
a
second-story
addition
that
aligns,
with
the
first
floor
in
the
r1
single-family
residential
district,
with
a
5-foot
Street
side
yard
setback
where
15
feet
is
required.
Zoning
code,
section
6,
8
to
8
and
a
4.1
foot,
Street
side
yard
setback
for
Eve's
yard
obstruction
where
13.5
feet
is
required.
Zoning
hood
section
six,
four
one,
nine,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
is
the
determining
body
for
this
case.
L
My
understanding
is
that
so
we're
on
a
corner
lot,
and
it's
got
an
unusual
cut
to
it.
I
believe
at
the
front
of
the
home,
the
home
faces
Ewing.
The
side
of
the
house
is
on
Emerson
and
at
the
front
of
our
home
the
width
is
like
65
feet
and
it
tapers
down
to
14.
It's
a
very,
very
unusual
yeah.
You
could
see
that
there
so
the
the
existing
a
dish
in
order
to
match
up
with
that.
L
L
C
L
C
B
B
K
B
K
Think
to
interject
I
think
what's
going
to
happen
is
the
whole
building
that
white
building
basically
is
going
to
grow
to
the
second
floor,
the
way
that
the
roof
pitches
right
now
it's
going
to
remain,
but
you're
going
to
have
to
interconnect
it
with
the
the
other
roof
in
the
other
direction.
That's.
K
L
L
J
G
L
It
will
be
a
nine-foot
ceiling
in
the
existing
footprint
on
the
on
the
first
floor
and
whatever
standard
on
the
above.
Assuming
this
is
approved.
Okay,
thank
you
sure.
Do
you
live
in
the
space
I
do
yet
my
my
wife
and
son
and
I
live
in
there.
How
long
have
you
lived
there?
We
bought
the
property
in
December
of
15,
okay
and.
L
E
L
L
L
I
spoke
with
both
the
adjacent
properties,
so
we
have
one
just
north
of
us
and
then
there's
a
neighbor
whose
house
faces
Emerson
or
golf
what
elgyn,
whatever
it's
called
right.
There
I've
spoken
with
both
of
them
and
they
expressed
no
issue
with
it.
I've
spoken
with
pretty
much
everybody
on
our
down
from
Simpson
on
Ewing
and
didn't
get
any
feedback.
I
mean
I,
know
it's
easy
for
me
to
say
standing
here
today,
but
I,
don't
think
you're
you're
gonna
get
any
negative
pushback
from
our
neighbors
and.
L
It
would
be
cost
prohibitive,
given
the
the
current
framing
to
to
respect
a
15
foot
setback
in
the
addition.
It
would
be
something
that
we
we
just
wouldn't
do
in
that
situation
and
to
comply
on
the.
What
currently
exists
would
would
require
knocking
that
down.
So
it's
more
a
function
of
an
unusual
taper
in
the
lot
I
believe
that
that
makes
this
a
requirement,
or
that
makes
this
an
impingement
or
a
hardship.
J
N
L
O
E
G
Agree
with
your
honor,
this
is
probably
the
best
option
for
them.
I
I,
don't
mind
the
the
variance
and
type
I
would
vote
to
grant
it.
I
have
a
recommendation,
though,
and
I'm
a
little
bit
picky
about
that.
But
architecture
is
architecture.
You
can
make
a
better
looking
architecture
besides
the
new
roof,
it
cannot
connect,
in
my
opinion,
to
the
reach
of
the
existing
roof,
because
the
addition
is
narrower.
So
you
will
not
have
the
same
rules.
Law
talk
to
your
architect,
and
this
is
just
a
wish.
G
C
C
Whatever
approvals
it
received
would
be
non-conforming
and
therefore
the
need
to
build
up,
which
we
typically
allow
results
in
a
non-conforming
structure
that
requires
variation,
I,
think
I,
trust
Melissa,
that
the
eaves
may
be
slightly
further
out
than
what
exists,
but
the
apparent
drastic
relief
of
five
feet,
setback
where
15
is
required
of
for
4.1
feet,
where
thirteen
point
five
is
required
is
really
just
a
vestige
of
the
existing
non-conforming
structure
as
it
were
so
I.
Don't
think
this
is
a
significant
variation
request
and
it
adds
significant
utility
to
a
home.
K
So
I
understand
the
as
a
harsh
of
the
structural.
Yes,
you
would
need
to
knock
stuff
down
in
order
to
rebuild
to
conform
to
the
setbacks
that
you
would
that
are
allowed
and
structurally
there's
already
a
foundation.
There's
already
structure
there
to
alleviate
just
going
straight
up
so
I'm
in
favor
I.
A
A
Okay,
so,
since
we're
all
together
on
this,
I
am
going
to
read
the
various
standards
for
the
CBA
to
recommend
approval
of
this
variance.
We
must
find
that
the
provokes
variance
a
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
impact
on
the
EU's
enjoyment
or
property
values
of
adjoining
properties.
The
surrounding
properties
are
a
mix
of
1.5
and
two-story
detached
single-family
dwellings.
The
massing
height
and
size
of
the
proposed
addition
is
consistent
with
proximate
buildings.
B
is
in
keeping
with
the
zoning
ordinance.
A
The
proposed
addition
promotes
the
public
health
morals,
general
welfare
and
objectives
of
the
comprehensive
general
plan,
as
well
as
enhanced
the
taxable
value
of
this
property.
C
has
a
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
that
is
per
to
peculiar
to
the
property
as
Scot
was
explaining.
The
unique
shot
shape
of
this
property
presents
no
option
to
construct
an
addition
in
a
compliant
location
without
enduring
significant
structural
modifications
or
complete
teardown
or
creating
an
aesthetically
and
functionally
displeasing
layout,
which
would
not
provide
reasonable
space
for
a
growing
family
or
be
compatible
with
the
massing
of
neighborhood
properties.
A
D
property
owners
would
suffer
a
particular
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
as
distinguished
from
a
mere
inconvenience
construction.
Without
zoning
relief
would
not
provide
adequate
space
for
the
owners,
growing
family
and
wouldn't
necessary.
Location
e
is
not
based
exclusively
upon
a
desire
to
extract
additional
income
from
the
property
or
public
benefit
to
the
whole
will
be
derived.
The
residents
is
honor
occupied
and
will
continue
to
be
owner
occupied
does
not
have
a
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
that
was
created
by
any
person
having
an
interest
in
the
property.
A
The
property
was
plaited
and
construction
at
its
size
and
width
prior
to
the
current
ownership
and
we're
working
with
what
we
have
G
is
limited
to
the
minimum
change
necessary
to
alleviate
the
particular
hardship
or
practical
difficulty.
The
proposed
floor
plan
and
eaves
are
the
minimum
necessary
to
provide
a
habitable
and
functional
space
for
the
owners
growing
family
within
existing
lot
limitation.
It's
somebody
like
to
make
the
motion
I'll.
E
Make
motion
in
the
matter
of
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item
19,
zmj,
v,
0,
0
9
excuse
me
0
0,
4,
9
and
as
it
relates
to
the
property
at
2024,
Ewing
Avenue
I,
move
that
we
approve.
This
motion
conditioned
upon
the
fact
that
it
be
developed
in
compliance
with
the
documents
and
testimony
presented
here
this
evening.
Second,
all.
N
A
B
Matt
Rogers,
the
zoning
consultant
applies
for
major
zoning
relief
to
construct
first
and
second
floor
additions
to
a
single-family
residence
in
the
r32
family
residential
district.
The
applicant
requests
to
increase
the
habitable
area
of
a
legally
non-conforming
residential
use
and
structure.
Zoning
code
section
six,
six:
four:
four:
with
a
zero
foot:
north
interior
side
yard
setback,
where
five
feet
is
required.
B
Zoning
code
section
six,
eight,
four:
seven,
a
three
and
a
three
foot:
rear
yard
setback
where
30
feet
is
required,
so
nin,
Code,
section,
six,
eight,
four,
seven,
eight
four,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
is
the
determining
body
for
this
case
documents.
Part
of
the
record
include
variation
application,
submitted,
May,
7th,
2019
zoning
analysis,
plaintiff
survey
and
supporting
documentation,
site
plans,
elevations
image
of
property,
aerial
view
of
property,
zoning
map
of
property,
dapper
draft
meeting
minutes
excerpt
of
June
5th
2019,
as
well
as
to
letters
of
support
passed
out
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
B
N
P
Name
is
Matt
Rogers
I
live
at
1:33,
Clyde,
Avenue
and
I'm
the
zoning
consultant
for
this
particular
case.
This
is
a
unique
property
in
the
city
of
Evanston
and
that
there
are
two
primary
residence
on
a
single
lot.
The
bill.
This
particular
structure
used
to
be
the
garage
coach
house
for
the
main
house,
which
was
built
in
the
late
1920s
and
when
it
was
redeveloped
around
2005,
it
was
created
as
a
condominium
association
so
that
the
two
properties
each
property
owns
50%
of
the
condominium.
P
P
I
C
P
So
what
worked?
What
we're
wanting
to
do
on
this
particular
property
that
presents
some
specific
issues
for
us
are
number
one.
There
is
no
storage
on
the
ground
floor
of
the
unit.
There
is
no
basements
or
anything
that
needs
to
be
stored.
There's
kind
of
a
cubby
third
floor,
loft
area
which
can
be
used
for
storage,
but
there
isn't
really
anything
on
the
first
floor.
So
what
the
owners
are
seeking
to
do
is
to
shift
the
garage
back
and
Melissa.
If
you
can
go
to
that.
P
So
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
right
in
here
we're
looking
to
add
a
mudroom
and
by
doing
so
shift
the
garage
back
towards
the
alley.
It's
a
very
small
garage.
It's
only
about
17
and
a
half
feet
wide.
So
getting
cars
in
and
out
is
a
little
tricky.
We
are
not
able
to
expand
the
width
of
the
garage
any
because
there
are
structures,
structural
support
for
the
second
floor,
which
run
right
along
this
wall
right
here,
so
we
can't
shift
the
garage
any
wider.
P
Nope,
that's
it
go
back
up
one
more
there
you
go
so
this
little
area
right
in
here,
there's
currently
a
second-story
open
terrace.
There
isn't
really
any
use
for
it
other
than
being
outside
in
the
patio
it's
an
ounce
of
outdoor
patio
space.
What
the
owners
are
looking
to
do
is
to
enclose
that
area
and
make
it
a
sitting
sort
of
sunroom
atrium
room
off
of
the
master
bedroom.
P
Currently
the
the
owners
there's
two
of
them
who
live
there,
but
they
also
have
children
in
college
and
finishing
up
college
who
may
come
back
for
a
while,
so
it
does
create
more
than
just
two
people
living
in
this
home
and
so
they're
looking
to
have
sort
of
a
separate
little
sitting,
space
off
the
master
bedroom
which
could
be
accessed
from
the
hallway,
the
upstairs
hallway
as
well.
So
other
people
could
use
it
to
other
than
just
the
off
the
master
bedroom
and
that's
about
214
square
feet
of
space.
Sorry,
are
there
walls
proposed
again?
P
Yes,
so
if
you
go
to
the
next
one
Melissa
the
walls
exist.
Now
there
are
brick
walls,
there's
a
little
there's
a
little
parapet,
type
wall
that
runs
around
that
space,
so
that
you
don't
fall
off.
What
we're
looking
to
do,
as
you
can
see
here,
is
create
a
row
of
windows
along
the
east
wall
as
well
as
a
little
turn
around
on
the
south
wall
there
on
the
west
wall,
because
it's
zero
are
on
the
side
on
the
north
wall,
because
it's
a
zero
lot
line.
P
A
Q
I
was
going
to
have
to
go
back
and
get
my
scale,
but
the
room
dimensions
are
roughly
thirteen
by
fourteen
and
again
it's
directly
on
top
of
an
existing
family
room
and
for
some
reason
one
of
the
pages
is
not
in
that
presentation.
But
I
do
have
it
here
and
it
might
help
to
explain
things
if
you'd
like
me
to
show
it
to
you.
You.
B
I
M
Q
C
P
For
what
work
for
what
we're
doing
on
the
second
story
edition?
Yes,
it
is
building
on
the
brick
walls
of
the
first
floor.
In
order
to
be
compliant,
we
would
have
to
set
back
five
feet
which
really
makes
that
an
unusable
space,
because
it's
only
about
13
feet
wide
now.
So,
if
you
take
five
feet,
it
suddenly
becomes
8
feet
wide
and
once
you
put
your
couch
in
or
something
like
that,
you've
really
made
that
a
filled
room,
not
to
mention
the
fact
that
you
have
the
structural
aspect
of
cheering
up
a
second-story.
C
P
N
N
P
D
D
G
P
R
P
D
So
Matt
or
my
the
utility
pole,
that's
there
does
not
pose
a
problem
for
the
garage.
R
P
P
For
the
most
part,
it's
going
to
have
very
little
impact
on
most
of
the
neighbors.
The
one
neighbor
that
it
will
have,
probably
the
greatest
impact
on
would
be
the
neighbor
to
the
north,
just
because
that's
the
lot
line
that
we're
building
on,
but
we
feel
that
it's
not
going
to
be
a
substantial
adverse
impact
on
them.
I
mean
any
any
project,
as
you
know,
creates
some
sort
of
change
and
and
everything,
but
we
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
a
huge
impact
on
them.
P
C
You
just
reiterate,
or
maybe
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail,
I'm,
not
sure
I
understood
what
you
meant
by
the
multifamily
situation,
whether
that
included
the
two
residences
on
the
one
lot
or
whether
you
met
there
are
more
than
one
family
living
in
the
structure.
We're
discussing
tonight.
There's.
P
Not
more
than
one
family
living
there,
but
although
currently
it
is
just
the
couple
they
have
college-age
children
and
an
aging
adult
who
may
at
some
point
come
to
live
with
them.
So
they
want
to
kind
of
keep
that
option
available
and
not
feel
overly
crowded,
if
that,
if
that
should
take
place,
but
the
two
properties,
the
two
condominium
portions,
are
held
separately.
J
J
J
P
Exact
same
situation,
where
you
have
a
very
large
coach
house
as
it
were,
that
was
developed
into
a
separate
property,
a
condominium
association
was
created
so
that
there
could
be
two
primary
residences
on
the
same
lot
and
you
can
see
actually
it's
kind
of
a
much
larger
footprint
even
than
we
are.
This
is
1132,
and
then
this
is
us
here.
Okay,.
J
C
P
J
A
G
F
Are
their
neighbors
if
you
could
bring
that
picture
up
from
the
alley,
the
actual
color?
Yes
that
one
so
just
as
a
concern
I'm
just
up
the
street,
you
see
where
that
unit
I
think
you're,
calling
it
1132
but
I
think
it's
11:30,
but
with
the
blue
door.
So
my
property
I'm
over
on
the
opposite
on
the
West,
End
and
right
in
front
of
them,
is
a
two-story
building
and
there's
parallel
parking
there
and
so
with
their
garage
coming
out.
I'm,
just
only
asking,
if
that's
going
to
be
problematic,.
F
C
F
B
F
Right
and
so,
and
in
the
wintertime
that
can
be
problematic
and
right
now
with
them
set
in
it,
does
allow
them
to
turn
in.
However,
I'm
not
sure
how
that
will
work
with
the
garbage
trucks
and
all
the
other
things
that
come
and
turn
like,
and
if
there's
cars
parked
so
I,
don't
know
if
they
discuss
that
with
that
building
owner
or
not
this
actually
architect.
Q
Q
So
then
we
have
what
we
would
like
we're
gonna
be
three
feet
off
the
alley
and
alley
is
a
16-foot
alley,
I
believe
so
there
would
be
19
feet
that
we
would
get
to
pull
out
and
around
and
Chicago
alleys
are
16
feet
at
Jewell
between
the
lanes
is
20
feet,
so
we
feel
19
feet
is
totally
ample
and
nobody
should
be
using
our
property,
any
trucks
or
anything
to
get
around
any
of
the
cars
that
may
be
parking
against
that
building.
Matt.
Do
you
have?
Do
you
have
something
about
the
parking
I.
P
P
It
may
be
a
legal
parking
rings
that
the
city
would
have
an
eight-foot-wide
alley
and
I.
My
guess
is
that's
about
what
the
space
is
in
between
those
two
red
lines.
Right.
There
is
eight
to
nine.
You.
D
E
B
Up
a
Google
image
of
the
alley
looking
at
that
building
and
without
knowing
the
history
of
it
and
and
looking
at
historic
records,
I
would
anticipate
that
that
is
illegal
parking.
It
does
not
meet
the
proper
widths
for
parallel
parking
or
setbacks
to
the
alley,
so
it
likely
shouldn't
be
occurring.
We
are
a
complaint
based.
If
anybody
would
like
to
make
a
complaint
on
it,
then
we
can
look
into
it.
But
as
for
this
case,
it
looks
like
from
the
Google
view
which
anyone
can
come
and
see
if
they
want.
B
E
So
I'm
confused
by
what
you
just
said
so
I
understood
you
saying
I
thought
I
understood
you
saying
that
there's
illegal
parking
happening
there,
so
they're
parking
in
a
manner
that
is
not
appropriate
in
that
alley.
But
then
I
thought
you
said
that
they
are
appropriate
parking
on
private
property.
It
is.
E
E
F
P
Not
on
the
west,
because
that
tends
to
be
more
larger
buildings,
so
it's
rental
condo,
that
sort
of
stuff
that
we
weren't
able
to
identify
individual
owners
on,
but
everybody
should
have
received.
We
sent
out
310
notices
for
tonight's
meeting
through
the
city,
so
everybody
should
have
received
notice
by
now
what
we
wanted
to
deal
with
the
most
immediate
neighbors,
who
would
have
the
most
impact
on
them?.
F
I
mean
I'm,
not
saying
anything,
I
I.
This
is
my
first
meeting
of
my
new
neighbors
and
so
I'm,
not
dissing
in
any
disagreement
at
all.
Just
trying
to
make
this
project
work
well
for
everyone
in
the
neighborhood
that
have
to
use
that
alley,
and
we
do
have
to
kind
of
use
the
alley
and
skirt
over
into
people's
onto
their
skirts
in
order
to
pass
by,
especially
if
two
cars
end
up
there.
F
At
the
same
time,
so,
and
because
of
the
garbage
trucks
that
come
through
I,
don't
know
if
you're
going
to
alert
the
neighborhood
that
you're
going
to
have
construction
trucks
there
blocking
and
then
you
know
many
times
we
can
be
pinned
in
and
have
to
go
to
work
or
just
so
that
we
don't
have
a
problem
where
someone
is
stuck
home
because
they
can't
get
out
yeah.
So
how
that
will
be
addressed.
You.
P
Mean
obviously
any
construction
will
have
some
impact
on
the
neighborhood.
It
will
be
for
a
limited
period
of
time.
Our
hope
is
not
to
have
large
trucks.
This
isn't
a
huge
project
that
we're
doing
so.
We
shouldn't
be
having
to
block
the
alley
or
bring
in
any
equipment
that
would
have
to
block
the
alley
so
it
should
have.
P
It
will
have
some
impact
I
can't
guarantee
that
it
will
not
impact
you
at
all
during
construction,
because
that
tends
to
happen
even
with
the
best
laid
plans,
but
we'll
do
everything
to
remediate
that,
and
the
owners
have
told
me
that,
basically,
if
there
is
a
problem,
they
will
provide
a
phone
number
to
neighbours.
Everything
like
that,
so
people
can
reach
out
directly
to
them,
because.
F
D
Also,
just
just
as
a
point
of
just
as
a
point
of
information,
the
the
their
garage
will
still
be
set
back
3-3,
which
is
where,
which
is,
as
you
look
at
the
photograph
there,
which
is
where
most
of
the
other
garages
are,
with
the
exception
of
the
one
immediately
next
door
at
the
tee,
which
is
right
on
the
property
line
right
and
and
has
been
on
the
property
line.
Since
it
was
constructed.
D
D
F
P
Go
to
this
is
the
T
here,
that's
the
the
alley
that
comes
into
this
alley.
So
that's
where
she's,
referring
to
the
Z
one
other
thing
I'll
also
just
point
out,
is
that
if
you
look
at
our
our
plans,
the
entire
back
area
is
paved,
and
so
that
does
allow
for
a
pull
off
there.
That
will
be
larger
than
the
three
feet.
Obviously
they
can't
hit
the
air-conditioning
condenser.
That
is
there
or
anything
like
that,
but
it
does
provide
some
additional
space
for
someone
to
pull
off
to
the
side.
You.
F
P
N
N
F
B
Sounds
about
where
the
vehicles
parked
in
the
alley
and
and
making
sure
that
they
don't
get
boxed
in
during
construction
and
because
you
will
be
building
right
at
the
property
line.
The
city
will
require
construction
management
plan
that
includes
shoring
to
the
next,
our
property
and
whatnot.
So
we
can
wrap
into
that
plan
how
to
make
sure
those
vehicles
don't
get
boxed
in
and
I
would
encourage
you
to
talk
to
the
neighbor
to
the
north
or
the
front
house
to
see
if
any
of
the
construction
vehicles
can
park
there.
P
P
D
I
think
that
it's
a
creative
way
to
accommodate
a
mud
porch
and
maintain
your
parking
on
the
alleyway
and
the
the
impact
of
the
enclosure
and
the
front.
If
anything,
that's
that's,
perhaps
beneficial
to
the
front
house,
which
is
the
most
impacted
by
that,
because
it
affords
a
little
bit
more
privacy
in
the
backyard
and
and
yet
it
maintains
light
and
air
to
that
portion
of
the
house.
D
C
Those
are
all
those
comments
are
spot-on
and
I
agree
with
them.
I
just
would
also
point
out.
This
is
a
truly
unique
situation
where
there
are
two
residences
on
one
lot
and
it
was
permitted
to
be
built
that
way
long
ago
and
the
current
owner
that
the
applicant
is
attempting
to
adapt
the
property
in
a
fairly
minimal
way
to
make
it
more
livable.
G
Agree
with
the
comments
and
what
the
applicant
showed
us
I
would
say
it
is
it's
a
good
project,
the
the
enclosure
of
the
terrace.
It's
it's
a
good
open,
terrace,
but
at
the
same
time
it's
always
unprotected
from
the
elements,
and
it's
always
a
trouble
for
the
floor
below
so
I
would
say
it's
it's
good.
The
only
wish
that
I
have
is
I
see
on
the
drawings
that
the
garage
seemed
to
be
a
different
material
for
the
exterior
walls.
If
you
can
afford
the
brick,
it
will
be
much
better.
My
opinion,
that's
just
a
wish.
K
J
A
Okay
for
this
variation
to
be
recommended
for
approval,
the
CBA
must
find
that
the
proposed
variation,
a
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
impact
on
the
used
enjoyment
or
property
values
of
the
adjoining
properties.
The
massing
height
location
and
size
of
the
proposed
additions
are
consistent
with
neighboring
properties.
B
is
in
keeping
with
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
The
proposed
additions
enhance
the
taxable
value
of
the
property.
C
has
a
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
that
is
peculiar
to
the
property.
A
The
unique
LOC
conditions,
an
existing
non-conforming
structure,
leave
no
option
to
construct
an
addition
in
a
compliant
location
without
enduring
significant
structural
modifications
or
creating
an
aesthetically
and
functionally
thus
pleasing
layout,
which
would
not
provide
reasonable
space
for
the
residents.
D
property
owners
would
suffer
a
particular
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
as
distinguished
from
a
mere
inconvenience
construction.
Without
zoning
relief
would
not
provide
adequate
space
for
the
owners
needs
and
would
necessitate.
Relocation.
E
is
not
based
exclusively
upon
a
desire
to
extract
additional
income
from
the
property
or
public
benefit
to
the
whole
will
be
derived.
A
The
residence
is
and
will
continue
to
be
owner
occupied
F
does
not
have
a
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
that
was
created
by
any
person
having
an
interest
in
the
property
the
property
was
planted
and
construction
constructed
at
its
size
and
width
prior
to
the
current
ownership
and
G
is
limited
to
the
minimum
change
necessary
to
alleviate
the
particulars
or
practical
difficulty.
The
proposed
floor
plan
is
the
minimum
necessary
to
provide
a
habitable
and
functional
space
for
the
owners
needs
within
the
existing
lot
limitations.
A
Shifting
the
proposed
second-story
addition
into
compliance
from
the
north
lot
line
would
require
reconstruction
of
structural
supports
for
the
second
floor,
incurring
tremendous
cost
in
reducing
the
habitable
space,
the
rear
yard.
First-Floor
addition
is
the
only
location
suitable
for
additional
storage
and
primary
entrance
from
the
alley.
The
size
of
this
addition
is
modest
and
the
proposed
setback
mimics
several
proximate
garages
and
coach
houses
on
the
alley
can
I
absolutely
make
the
motion.
Please.
A
B
For
a
quick
note,
first
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
747
Howard
Street.
That
case
is
continued
to
the
July
16th
Zoning
Board.
Hearing
that
case
does
not
currently
have
a
recommendation
from
the
dapper
committee,
so
it
was
held.
Moving
on
to
2211
Maple
Avenue
Adam
Wilmot
architect
applies
for
major
zoning
relief
to
construct
eight
fives.
B
To
construct
a
five-story
15
dwelling
unit,
multiple
family
residence
with
offsite
parking
in
the
r5
general
residential
district,
the
applicant
requests
a
40-foot
lot
with
existing,
where
50
feet
is
required
for
multiple
family
residences.
Zoning
code,
section
six
875
and
1512
units
where
nine
dwelling
units
are
allowed,
including
the
inclusionary
housing
bonus.
Zoning
code
Section
six,
eight
four,
seven,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
is
the
determining
body
for
this
case.
B
B
Therefore,
the
Zoning
Board
will
be
the
final
determining
body
since
neighbors
were
likely
not
aware
of
that
change.
There
will
be
no
resolution
tonight.
We
will
hear
the
case,
but
then
the
case
will
remain
open.
You
will
receive
a
new
notice
in
the
mail
that
clarifies
that
it
will
now
be
the
Zoning
Board
making
the
determination
and
the
case
will
continue
at
our
July
16th
meeting
for
that
resolution.
So
you
are
welcome
to
speak.
A
J
S
Apologize
for
being
the
only
one
wearing
a
tie
tonight
so,
as
stated,
this
is
a
five
story:
15
unit
apartment
building
with
two
onsite
inclusionary
housing
units,
the
property
is
zoned
r5.
It
has
a
40-foot,
a
pre-existing
lot
width
which
the
owner
did
not
create
purchase
the
property
with
that
lot
with
it,
surrounded
on
three
sides
by
much
larger
apartment
buildings
that
have
similar
densities
to
what's
being
proposed
here.
So
we
believe
that
this
building
with
this
density
fits
the
character
of
the
area.
S
In
addition,
by
providing
two
onsite
inclusionary
housing
units,
we
feel
this
project
provides
an
important
public
benefit
and
that
it
meets
an
important
goal
of
the
city
and
providing
more
affordable
housing
on-site,
and
this
is
in
a
Tod
area,
I
like
to
start
by
thanking
Melissa
and
her
staff.
They
were
great
to
work
with.
They
provided
real
helpful
guidance
to
us
along
the
way
and
some
changes
were
made.
We
went
through
this
project.
S
Mr.
Paul
harp
is
the
sole
owner
and
manager
of
the
LLC
two
to
one
Matt
LLC,
which
owns
the
property
and
it's
developing
the
property
he
is
here
tonight.
Adam
Wilmot
is
the
architect
for
this
project.
He
in
a
minute
will
go
through
all
of
the
details
of
this
project
and
we
have
Jennifer
Draper
from
Terra
engineering
of
Chicago
terror
engineering,
provided
the
landscape
plan
and
will
be
doing
all
the
stormwater
and
other
engineering
to
meet
city
codes.
Just
a
brief
comment
about
some
of
the
procedures
that
we
went
through
with
this
project.
S
It
actually
started
off
as
a
six
story.
17
unit
building
staff
urged
a
less
tall,
less
dense
building,
it
was
reduced
to
a
five-story
15
unit
building
and
also
two
inclusionary
housing
units
were
added
on-site.
One
was
required
because
we
were
requesting
a
major
variance.
One
was
also
voluntarily
added
by
the
the
owner
because
he
believed
in
the
importance
of
the
city's
goal
in
providing
affordable
housing
in
this
area.
S
S
We
think
there's
an
important
public
benefit
with
with
having
affordable
units
on
site.
We
went
to
the
dapper
committee.
It
was
a
seven
to
two
recommendation
in
favor
of
this
project.
A
couple
additional
suggestions
were
made
which
were
incorporated
into
this
project.
The
architect
will
detail
those
but
extensive
on-site.
Bicycle
storage
is
now
provided
there's
a
centralized
garbage
area
that
now
includes
a
composting
of
receptacle
and
a
recycling
receptacle.
My
client
then
held
a
voluntary
neighborhood
meeting
with
the
assistance
of
the
the
aldermen.
The
aldermen
believe
supports
this
project.
S
I
believe
we'll
be
submitting
if
she
has
not
already
a
letter
in
support
of
this
project,
the
neighbors
provided
their
you
know,
got
to
review
the
project,
provided
their
inputs
comments
concerns
as
a
result
of
that
meeting.
An
additional
change
was
made,
and
that
was
to
eliminate
three
of
the
bedrooms
in
this
project.
So,
while
it's
still
a
15
unit,
bedroom
or
unit
project,
it's
a
little
less
dense
than
what
which
then
was
originally
proposed.
That
also
had
the
benefit
of
eliminating
the
need
for
a
parking
variance.
S
C
S
C
C
So
there
so,
as
a
matter
of
meeting
the
coat
regulation,
there's
no
need
for
the
residents
and
I
see
a
recommended
condition,
no
need
for
the
residents
to
utilize
street
parking
that
otherwise
might
be
used
by
other
people
in
the
neighborhood
who
are
worried
about
the
parking
they
will
have
available
to
them
with
15
new
units.
Correct.
S
E
S
The
current
parking,
the
parking
it's
kind
of
a
long
garage
as
you'll,
see
in
the
plans,
is
owned
by
the
the
owner,
currently
month-to-month
leases,
and
none
of
the
leases
are
for
owners
in
the
or
businesses
in
the
immediate
area,
and
we
have
a
map
showing
where
people
come
from.
The
architect
will
explain
this,
who
utilize
those
parking
spaces.
It
has
ebbed
and
flowed
over
over
the
short
period
of
time
that
this
owner
has
utilized
it.
D
Scott
brought
something
up
and
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
this.
If
I
can
that
the
the
parking
that
is
provided,
15
parking
spaces
that
are
provided
will
be
included
in
the
lease
one,
each
per
each
unit
in
the
building
at
no
additional
rent.
T
C
S
Something
we'd
have
to
discuss
that
there
will
be
one
offsite
parking
space
for
each
tenant
unit.
If
someone
were
to
have
two
cars,
you
know
we
suggest,
like
anyone
else
in
the
area
they
they
park
on
the
street.
This
is
a
Tod
area.
We
think
it's
highly
unlikely
anyone's
gonna
have
two
cars
who's
living
here.
So.
C
I'm
sure
not
I
mean
my
concern
is
obviously
the
applicant
is
the
one
who's
developing
the
property
and/or,
possibly
going
to
be
leasing
it
out.
The
would-be
tenants
are
not
here
to
agree
to
the
condition
that
they
not
park
on
the
street.
So
in
order
to
have
the
applicant
be
responsible
for
enforcing,
what's
a
fair
condition,
given
the
request
being
made,
I
think
it
would
make
sense
to
me
that
the
applicant
have
a
contractual
right
to
enforce
against
the
tenants
by
including
that,
in
the
lease
he.
U
U
The
first
exhibit
that
we're
showing
illustrates
that
our
project
site
is
in
a
transit
oriented
development.
It
is
not
only
adjacent
and
near
public
transit
access,
but
it
is
also
as
close
proximity
to
all
the
major
amenities
that
we
feel
is
are
appropriate
for
a
housing
development
of
this
level
of
density,
which
is
also
illustrated
by
the
the
similar
level
of
density
found
in
the
adjacent
properties
to
our
project
site.
U
U
U
U
U
U
The
exhibit
that
I'm
showing
illustrates
the
adjacent
density
of
this
area
and
I
think
this
really
gets
to
the
crux
of
the
matter.
Our
subject,
property
is
an
infill
lot.
For
all
intents
and
purpose
here
we
are
a
non-conforming
lot
that
makes
it
difficult
to
develop,
based
on
the
current
zoning
ordinance
requirements.
If
any
of
the
properties
adjacent
to
us
were
to
follow
the
current
zoning
ordinance,
they
would
all
be
significantly
less
dense
than
they
currently
are.
U
U
What
we
are
proposing,
in
essence,
is
11
units
combined
with
four
additional
units
that
be
provided
through
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
to
illustrate
what
you
would
be
permitted
to
put
here.
This
exhibit
is
attempting
to
illustrate
our
adjacent
densities
versus
what
is
permitted
by
Wright
on
this
property,
which
would
have
been
five
dwelling
units.
E
It
feels
a
little
disingenuous
to
make
this
comparison,
because
you're
not
proposing
11
units
you're
proposing
15
units
now
I
understand
that
two
of
those
are
you
know
two
inclusionary
housing
units
and
then
two
our
bonus
units,
but
to
make
this
comparison,
maybe
I'm
not
understanding,
and
so,
if
you
can
step
back
and
help
me
understand,
but
this
does
not.
This
isn't
resonating
with
me
yet.
C
U
B
V
B
D
If
I
can,
though,
because
we're
on
this
topic
and
I
keep
coming
back
to
this,
you
know
eleven
plus
two
plus
two
bonus
units
I
thought
that
that
this
was
on
four
five
units
and
that
two
inclusionary
units
would
provide
two
bonus
units
which
would
provide
nine
units
altogether.
Now
we
have
eleven
plus
two
plus
two,
when
we
keep
acting
like
it's
11,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
what
the
reality
is.
The.
B
Zoning
compliance
density
that
would
be
allowed
is,
is
the
regular
based
owning
that
would
allow
for
five
units
right
now.
If
two
of
those
units
are
inclusionary
units,
then
they
get
four
more
units.
That
brings
it
up
to
nine,
so
they
are
compliance
at
nine
units.
Anything
above
that
requires
a
variation
I.
D
U
What
we're
suggesting
is
that
if
there
were
no
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
right
that
we
would
still
be
standing
here
asking
for
11
units
to
match
that
that
is
what
is
immediately
around
us.
In
fact,
it's
it's
significantly
less
than
what's
immediately
around
us,
it
would
be
less
dense,
12
or
13
would
be
a
little
closer
to
the
exact
average
15,
while
makes
us
more
dense
than
the
building
to
our
south.
U
It
makes
us
less
dense
in
the
building
to
our
north
and
as
a
public
benefit,
and
yes,
as
a
way
of
achieving
additional
dwelling
units
to
help
offset
the
cost
of
that
public
benefit.
We
are
requesting
15
units
I,
don't
intend
to
sit
here
and
be
disingenuous
and
pull
anybody
into
thinking
that
we're
only
making
11
units.
We
are
also
trying
to
do
best
illustrate
to
the
CBA
tonight.
What
we
think
is
appropriate
for
the
for
the
site,
as
well
as
what
makes
sense
as
a
public
benefit
in
how
we
provide
these
inclusionary
housing.
E
And
can
you
clarify
I
believe
that
packet
stated
that
you
initially
were
talking
about
larger
units
proposing
larger
units
as
the
inclusionary
housing
units
and
city
staff
actually
said
that
there
was
greater
demand
for
a
smaller
unit?
So
now,
what
is
the
bedroom
mix
of
those
inclusionary
housing
units?
If.
U
So
what
we
wanted
to
show
is
that,
first
and
foremost,
that
11
begins
to
meet
the
the
similar
density,
the
shaded
areas
that
you
see
on
the
site,
there's
a
yellow
and
a
blue
and
agree
up.
There
illustrate
the
different
zoning
areas
adjacent.
So
specifically,
what
we're
looking
at
with
in
our
analysis
are
the
r5
and
there
is
a
b1
district.
U
Everything
to
the
south
of
us
is
a
single-family,
but
it
is
zoned
for
that
again
kind
of
reinforcing
the
idea
that
this
is
an
infill
line.
We
are
very
small
for
an
r5,
as
is
noted,
that
we
need
a
10-foot
variance
for
the
minimum
lot
width,
but
we
are
nonetheless
landlocked
right.
There
isn't
a
whole
lot.
You
can
do
other
than
try
to
develop
a
non-conforming
walk.
U
The
units
that
we
are
then
left
with
or
that
we
have
chosen
to
provide
is
five
one-bedroom
or
studio
units.
Five
two-bedroom
Welling
units
in
three
sorry,
five
three-bedroom
volumes,
okay,
so
what
was
originally
proposed
was
that
we
would
provide
a
two-bedroom
or
a
three
bedroom
as
one
of
the
inclusionary.
It
was
staffs
recommendation
that
of
the
inclusionary
housing
units
that
have
been
developed
in
Evanston.
U
And
for
inclusive,
but
an
inclusionary
housing
unit
is
then
exempt
from
the
parking
requirement
all
right.
So
you
are
you're
penalized
for
providing
three
bedrooms
in
the
Tod,
but
it
is
to
the
benefit
of
an
owner
to
then
provide
a
if
you're
trying
to
meet
a
parking
requirement.
You
actually
doing
a
three-bedroom.
B
U
I'd
argue
that
that's
actually
debatable
to
some
degree.
While,
yes,
you
can
charge
more
money
for
a
three-bedroom
apartment
that
that
is
true.
But
if
you
looked
at
the
the
return
on
investment
for
a
three-bedroom
apartment
versus
a
one-bedroom
apartment,
a
one-bedroom
apartment
wins
every
time
because
you,
the
the
cost
to
build
a
one-bedroom
versus
a
three-bedroom,
is
similar,
but
the
B
cost
to
rent
a
three-bedroom
is
not
significantly
higher
than
a
one-bedroom.
U
So
if
you
were
just
doing
a
market
analysis,
you
would
you
would
likely
find
that
a
building
full
of
one
bedrooms
and
studios
is
a
better
return
on
the
investment
for
a
developer
than
a
building
full
of
three
bedrooms
and
two
bedrooms.
So
I
think
it
goes.
Both
ways
is
what
I'm
saying
I
don't
know
that
you
can
directly
relate
the
the
assignment
of
a
one-bedroom
in
a
studio
to
an
IH
OS
being
a
a
financial
benefit
to
develop.
U
Though
I
suppose,
if
you
were
to
to
assume
that
that
is
a
financial
benefit,
a
sacrifice
still
has
been
made
here,
because
in
order
to
provide
the
one
bedroom
and
the
studio
unit
as
the
affordable
units
in
order
to
comply
with
the
parking
requirements,
we
needed
to
reduce
the
number
of
three
bedrooms
to
a
couple
of
two
bedrooms.
To
get
there
all
right,
so
we
would
have
had,
and
our
original
proposal
had
in
fact,
eight
three
bedroom
apartments.
U
U
To
again
summarize,
the
iho
bonuses-
sorry
to
belabor
this
we'll
just
run
through
this
quickly
thing-
we've
already
kind
of
talked
about
this,
but
the
the
density
bonus
is
that
you
get
to
per
inclusionary
dwelling
unit.
The
inclusionary
dwelling
unit
is
one
of
those
two
bonus
building
like
coverage
increases
to
15%.
We
are
taking
advantage
of
the
increased
building
coverage.
U
We
did
that
as
a
function
of
reducing
the
height
of
the
building,
as
was
previously
mentioned,
our
first
proposal
to
staff
was
that
we
would
do
a
six-story
17
unit
building
at
the
time
no
building
lot
coverage
bonus
was
available
to
us.
When
that
became
available
to
us.
We
took
the
effort
to
redesign
the
building
to
be
a
five
storey
building,
which
is
now
compliant
with
an
RM
5
zone.
In
a
Tod
district,
we
get
a
15%
increase
in
perv
in
in
impervious
surface
area.
U
We
are
not
utilizing
that
in
not
even
remotely
we
have
far
more
impervious
surface
here
than
then
would
be
required.
We
will
get
to
that
momentarily.
The
iho
bonuses
provide
an
additional
12
feet
of
building
height.
We
are
not
utilizing
that
we
are.
We
are,
however,
utilizing
three
additional
feet
which
comes
from
a
10%
bonus
in
a
Tod
district,
but
note
that
we
are
not
maxing
it
out.
We
are
well,
we
could
be
55
feet
by
Tod
standards.
We
are,
we
are
currently
at
53
feet.
U
Idu
or
inclusionary
dwelling
units
do
not
require
parking
spaces,
so
there
is
a
bonus
there
and
while
we
are
providing
two
on-site,
you
know
again
to
note
that
we
are
only
required
to
provide
one
on
site
because
of
the
the
zoning
variance
being
requested.
The
other
one
could
have
been
provided
off
site.
We
are
electing
to
provide
an
on-site.
U
U
C
U
The
building
will
be
nine
feet
taller
than
the
adjacent
building,
regardless
of
how
many
units
we
put
into
this.
It
can
be
53
feet
tall.
As
noted
it
can
be
significantly
taller.
There's
just
no
logical,
rational
reason
to
make
it
taller
based
on
the
the
unit,
makes
that
and
the
best
in
Heights
used
for
the
redevelopment
of
the
property.
There
will
be
15
parking
spaces,
188
compliant
three
electric
charging
they're
all
enclosed,
they
are
off-site,
but
they
are
located
adjacent
across
from
the
the
alley
from
the
property.
U
U
U
I
won't
get
into
the
nuances
of
this,
but
it
came
up
at
the
the
dapper
meeting.
What
we
did
want
to
illustrate
was
that
we
had
more
than
sufficient
trash
collection
for
this
level
of
density
by
EPA
standards
and
and
census
data.
We
would
anticipate
689
pounds
of
waste
per
week.
We
are
providing
enough
storage
for
1,200
pounds
of
trash
per
week,
which
is
sufficient,
even
if
people
choose
not
to
recycle
or
compost.
We've
got
overflow
for
for
regular,
solid
waste.
U
There's
questions
regarding
that
I'm
happy
to
return
to
the
slide,
but
in
the
interest
of
time
we'll
move
forward,
the
site
will
require
us
to
remove
five
existing
trees.
Two
of
them
are
not
required
to
be
replaced.
One
is
a
damaged
tree
as
an
ash
tree,
so
it
has
existing
ash
borer
damage
and
the
other
is
a
cottonwood
class-d
tree.
U
The
trees
that
are
replacing
the
on-site
trees
are
six
in
six
shade,
trees,
two
ornamental
trees
and,
in
addition
to
tree
replacement,
we're
providing
extensively,
landscaped
front
yard
and
rear
yard.
This
is
both
an
amenity,
obviously
to
the
proposed
residents,
but
we
also
feel
that
it
is
a
public
benefit
in
keeping
with
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
providing
a
a
buffer
between
the
public
way
and
our
building.
A
couple.
E
N
V
Existing
site
has
five
existing
trees,
we're
removing
four
we're
keeping
the
one
in
the
parkway.
Unfortunately,
all
four
kind
of
in
pinned
against
the
alley
and
the
sidewalk
in
the
garage
in
the
house
and
can't
be
saved
just
to
do
their
locations
and,
as
Adam
mentioned
earlier,
that
two
of
them
are
Class
D
trees
which
technically
do
not
have
to
be
replaced.
V
But
we're
replacing
them
with
right
now
is
six
new
trees,
so
we
are
replacing
four
trees
with
six
okay,
but
due
to
one
of
them
being
a
class
a
tree,
the
current
evidence
and
guidelines
require
more
than
one
replacement,
so
we
will
confirm
all
of
this
during
permitting,
but
most
likely
what
will
have
to
be.
That
requirement
would
require
putting
in
ten
three-inch
trees,
which
is
too
much
which
we
really
can't
fit
in
the
small
of
a
site.
V
D
V
D
V
N
V
V
Joeys
works
for
residential
in
the
general,
and
I
know
there
was
a
comment
raised
about
cultivars.
It's
just
part
of
our
experiences
that
those
are
often
what's
it
locally
available,
as
well
as
have
a
near
form
that
is
easier
to
maintain
for
our
property.
So
it's
part
of
what
we've
been
looking
at
is
general.
We
always
try
to
go
for
a
native
low
maintenance
fits
in
with
our
every
character.
K
C
Before
you
get
back
into
your
patter,
I
have
a
question
for
you
that
follows
up
a
little
bit
on
the
landscaping
issue,
so
you
mentioned
earlier
the
impervious
space
and
that
you
are
not
maximizing
what
you
could
or
something
to
like.
But
there's
there's
clearly
no
question
that
you
are
significantly
proposing
to
increase
the
amount
of
impervious
space
from
what
currently
exists.
So
I
guess.
My
question
is:
notwithstanding
the
fact
that
you're
getting
bonus
allowances
for
the
inclusionary
units
that
allow
you
to
do
it.
C
U
C
U
U
U
The
first
floor
of
the
building
proposes
a
tenant
lounge
at
the
front
of
the
building.
As
a
building
amenity.
There
are
again
16
bicycle
storage
spaces,
adequate
trash
collection.
There
is
a
studio
bedroom
which
will
be
one
of
the
two
inclusionary
housing
units.
There's
a
1-bedroom
1-bath
in
a
three-bedroom
two-bath.
C
Ok,
I'm
going
to
interject
again,
since
you
said
the
words
I
think
that
I
think
taking
advantage
of
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
is
great
and
having
inclusionary
units
is
great.
Can
you
please
speak
to
how
the
owner
will
market
those
units
so
that
they're
filled
by
people
who
have
inclusionary
needs.
B
Can
speak
to
that?
The
city
requires
that
they
go
through
our
process.
We
have
a
waitlist
and
we
have
a
list
of
nonprofits
that
handle
all
of
it,
so
they
it
will
go
through
our
process
and
and
go
through
the
the
waitlist.
That's
out
there.
It's
not
handled
just
by
them.
There's
oversight
by
the
city.
Ok,.
U
Fourth
floor
is
again
a
chi
bedroom,
two
baths,
a
one
bedroom
one
and
a
half
bath.
This
is
the
second
inclusionary
housing
unit
and
again
a
three
bedroom.
Two
bath
and
fifth
floor
is
identical
in
that
it
has
a
two
bedroom:
two
bath,
one
bedroom
one
and
a
half
baths
and
a
three
bedroom.
Two
bath.
All
units
have
dishwashers
in
unit
washer/dryer.
All
units
will
be
of
similar
amenity,
similar
finishes.
These
are
not
viewed
to
be
luxury
apartment
units.
These
are
aiming
to
be
mid-level,
finishes.
U
Exterior
elevations
illustrate
that
the
building
height
is
53
feet.
Again,
it
is
five
storeys.
It
does
aim
to
relate
itself.
It
is
unabashedly
a
modern
building,
but
it
does
look
to
acknowledge
its
neighbor.
We
have
provided
relief
in
the
form
of
a
base
of
the
building
that
aligns
with
the
base
of
the
building
to
our
south.
U
From
the
street
view,
what
we
wanted
to
show
is
that,
because
the
building
is
set
back
further
than
than
the
building
to
our
immediate
South,
that
this
is
not
a
property
that
then
powers
over
its
neighbor.
Yes,
it
is
one-story
taller,
in
our
opinion,
that's
no
more
significant
than
if
somebody
builds
a
two-and-a-half
story
home
next
to
a
one
and
a
half
story.
Now
this
is
a
common
occurrence
in
all
neighborhoods,
in
any
municipality,
we
are
not
asking
for
additional
height.
We
are
building
within
our
means,
and
we
think
if
there
a
reasonable
proposal.
U
It
could,
it
will
be
installed,
it's
probably
best
seen
in
your
packets,
it's
harder
to
see
up
on
a
screen,
but
the
plan
and
I
would
refer
you
back
to
that,
rendering
there
on
the
front
yard
perspective,
you'll,
be
able
to
see
the
the
scale
and
the
texture
of
the
the
material
that
were
we're
proposing,
we've
elected
to
to
look
at
zinc
because
it
does
patina
over
time.
We
think
that
that's
important
to
have
materials
that
will
age
gracefully
in
a
area
that
is
adjacent
to
some
older
birth
buildings.
I
may.
E
Interject
with
a
question
about
the
materials
a
letter
submitted
to
us
was
questioning
the
materials
as
it
relates
to
the
you
know,
bird
migratory
flyaway
areas
and
the
materials
that
are
being
proposed
as
it
relates
to
burned
collisions.
Have
you
considered
that,
in
the
proposal
that
we're
seeing
tonight
are
these
materials
still
such
that
would
cause
I
guess
the
issue
is
glass
and
the
the
glass
on
the
balconies?
If
I
understand,
can
you
speak
to
that?
Yes,.
U
Is
a
a
bronze
metal
cladding
that
runs
along
the
top
I?
Don't
know
if
this
would
get
much
of
a
of
a
pointer
there,
but
the
the
banding,
the
darker
contrasting
banding,
intends
to
relate
to
the
limestone
banding
next
door.
Again,
the
the
punched
opening
window
fenestration
the
predominant
areas
of
the
building
intend
to
relate
to
the
classic
punched
openings
of
the
windows
on
our
adjacent
buildings.
U
M
Paul
Harbor
107
Green
Bay
Road
Matt.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
you
have
given
my
team
and
I
to
present
our
project
this
evening.
My
name
is
Paul
Harbor
and
my
company
is
the
owner
and
developer
of
this
project.
I
first
want
to
want
to
address
some
challenges
that
our
project
has
presented
us
with
concerning
its
construction
and
the
market
is
designed
to
serve.
These
comments
address
the
hardship
for
our
variance
request
to
allow
15
units
in
this
building,
so
why
you
are
suggesting
in
apartment
building
and
why
this
unit
count.
M
M
I
asked
some
mid
state,
a
real
estate
appraiser,
who
was
expert
in
evanston,
and
the
North
Shore
I
also
spoke
with
some
mentors
and
who
told
me
for
their
advice:
what
to
build
on
the
site
and
their
remarks
to
me,
where
we
were
you,
we
just
build
a
few
luxury
condominiums.
So
if
we
were
to
build
some
luxury
condominiums,
we
wouldn't
be
here
today
asking
you
for
the
couple
of
variances
that
we
are
proposing
to
you.
M
But
I
was
not
convinced
that
this
kind
of
used
is
the
best
for
the
city
and
for
the
site
and
also
I,
wasn't
convinced
that
building
few
luxury
condominiums
will
make
me
a
more
accomplished
developer
and
help
the
city
meeting
some
of
its
immediate
objectives,
that
is
for
us
to
include
in
our
unit
count
a
place
for
the
households
who
cannot
afford
market
rent
units
and
let
alone
luxury
ones.
As
you
see
it
you've
seen
today,
we
are
exceeding
our
iho
requirements.
M
M
Sara
flex
for
smaller
to
medium
sized
units,
and
this
is
why
the
recommendation
for
us
to
offer
the
one-bedroom
and
studio
affordable
this
same
census
tract
has
318
of
portable
units.
To
our
surprise,
all
of
these
affordable
units
are
restricted
for
for
senior
to
the
exception
of
40.
Avastin
overall
has
two
two
thousand
six
hundred
and
seventy
five
affordable
units,
and
only
two
hundred
two
thousand
six
hundred
and
seventy
five
households
registered
at
the
60%
ami
and
only
570
unit
to
fill
that
need.
M
M
Today
will
just
be
asking
for
the
two
variation
on
our
pre-existing
infill
lot,
that
is
located
in
a
transit,
oriented
development
area.
I'll
get
back
to
this
Tod
area
in
in
a
second
and
I.
Also,
you
know
what
we
we
took
15
garage
spaces
that
we
are
providing
for
this
development.
These
were
structurally
unsafe.
M
We
fully
already
we
fully
remodel
them.
Even
we
don't
have
any
project
I've
spent
about
probably
30
grand,
mrs.
Klotz.
No,
the
I
think
we
show
the
picture
of
how
they
used
to
be
before
and
how
we
made
them
to
be
right
now,
so
we
we
met.
We
exceeded
our
parking
requirements,
given
these
the
cost
to
acquire
this
property
and
the
hard
cost
and
and
the
soft
cost
of
the
development
and
giving
that
we
are
proposing
to
affordable
units,
it
is
simply
not
economically
feasible
for
us
to
build
less
than
15
minutes.
If
why.
M
Users
have
to
explain
is
that
we
are
taking
down
to
income
producing
units
right
now.
We
are
not
entertaining
the
option
that
we
will
be
building
four
or
five
units
bar
right
right
right
without
being
asked
to
offer
any
affordable
units
and
then
right
now,
I
D
APR.
We
there
is
an
article
about
this
development.
We
have
a
close
to
$900,000
right
now
and
Annika
in
mortgages,
and
only
these
two
properties.
So
it
was
just
by
far
not
enough
for
us
to
make
it
a
viable
project
and.
M
Are
simply
asking
so
the
language
there's
nothing
we
can
do
about?
We
are.
We
are
fairly
requesting
that
and
I
was
going
about
to
talk
about
that.
You
allow
us
much
some
some
existing
density,
the
nature
of
infill
Lots,
is
to
match
the
area
that
is
in
between
adjacent
adjacent
to
it
and
in
between.
So
we
are,
you
know
fairly
requesting
this
in
order
for.
C
Are
you
yes,
you've
made
that
case
that
you're
matching
it
but
you're
you're,
exceeding
the
height
by
adding
a
fifth
floor,
you're
exceeding
the
height
of
the
adjacent
properties,
right
I,
think
your
presentation
said
the
adjacent
ones
were
in
the
forty.
Some
odd
foot
range
and
yours
is
53,
correct.
M
C
C
That's
on
that
block,
but
then,
as
you
get
to
the
next
block,
that's
where
all
the
houses
are.
That's
where
you
know
single-family
houses,
our
multi-family
houses
are
so
yes
to
a
degree.
Your
infilling
on
the
lot,
something
that
the
two
surrounding
buildings,
and
perhaps
even
the
rest
of
that
area
have,
but
you
are
exceeding
what
they
the
bulk
of
what
they
have
it.
M
Could
be
a
little
bit
exceeding
one
floor,
however,
in
order
to
have
all
these
public
benefits
and
I'm
talking
about
you
know,
I've
seen
some
GBA
hearings
before
and
I've
seen
many
developers
saying
that
in
order
for
to
have
the
viable
project,
20
units,
at
least
in,
is
required
to
offer
one
affordable
units
on
a
15
units.
Project
I
am
more
than
willing
to
offer
that's
a
huge
benefit
and
I
would
I
totally.
C
Agree
with
so
I
I
don't
want
to
undermine
at
all
the
the
outstanding
attempt
to
actually
comply
with
the
spirit
of
the
inclusionary
housing.
Ordinance.
I
think
that's
great.
However,
the
benefit
you're
providing
has
a
trade
off
for
the
city
and
that's
the
extra
bulk
you're
being
allowed
to
build
two
to
nine
units.
So
the
extra
six
units
are
not
offset
by
further
benefit
right.
Those
are
just
six
more
units
on
top
of
the
benefit
you're
getting
back
from
the
city
in
order
for
giving
them
the
inclusionary
units
to
begin
with.
C
M
C
M
M
So,
if
approved
today,
this
project
will
allow
us
to
achieve
the
following.
We
will
be
able
to
to
have
a
small
development
that
is
designed
to
partially
fill
the
high
demand
for
affordable
units,
so
these
units
are
located
in
a
transit
oriented
area
because
the
site
is
300.
Feet
was
to
the
noise
metro
station
of
noise
and
and
maple,
and
these
units
fill
meet.
The
city's
objectives
add,
as
we
ester
understand
them,
to
fill
the
need
of
the
working
households
at
the
60%
ami.
M
There
is
a
market
of
traffic
transit,
oriented
a
study
that
I
pulled
it
off
the
city
of
Evanston
website.
It
was
adopted
by
the
city
of
July,
2017,
I'm,
sure
Melissa
is
familiar
with
this,
and
basically
the
the
city
has
put
a
lot
of
effort
towards
decreasing
the
community
reliance
on
the
automobile
through
increasing
the
density
of
the
of
the
city
within
short,
walk
distance
to
transit,
and
this
effort
efforts
has
paid
off.
There
is
it.
There
is
an
advance
definition
of
transit,
oriented
development
and
our
projects
simply
fit
fit
within.
Within
this
definition.
M
Transit
oriented
development
Tod
is
typically
defined
as
higher
density
in
proximity
to
a
transit
station
within
a
tea
idea
that
a
resident
has
the
ability
to
walk
or
bike
or
commute
to
work,
etc.
So
at
least
the
benefit
of
transit-oriented
developments
there
are.
There
are
just
many
I'm,
just
gonna
mention
some
of
them
connecting
households
with
jobs,
increasing
the
and
stabilizing
property
values
can
reduce
mild
miles,
traveled
and
greenhouse
gases
among
many
among
many
other
benefits.
So
the
second
of
the
second
goal
for
our
benefit.
M
That's
our
estimation,
that's
a
huge
benefit
to,
on
our
end,
to
be
noted
that
the
existing
two
two
stories
will
have
hard
time
paying
its
depth
obligation
expenses
real
estate
taxes,
with
with
our
2019
extra
assessment
that
you
I'm
sure
you
heard
off,
it's
going
to
be
increased
and
the
third,
the
third
benefit
will
be
will
be
simply
redeveloping
in
now
obsolete
site
and
replacing
a
dilapidated
two
units
building
with
a
new
project.
The
new
structure
will
provide
enhanced
amenities
landscaping
as
we
mentioned,
and
comply
with
the
city's
setback
requirements.
M
E
M
I
recently
and
this
this
property
is
the
garages
and
the
two
units
were
really
left
without
any
improvements
until
until
I
purchase,
especially
for
the
garages,
they
were
structurally,
not
safe.
They
were
falling
apart,
but
the
back
retaining
wall
for
the
garages,
it's
next
to
the
train
tracks
and
the
three
layers
of
breaks
two
of
the
three
layers
where
we're
gone.
So
they
could,
you
know,
collapsed
and
we
replace
two
things
with
a
plane.
M
We
replace
siding
all
the
garage
doors,
I
think
I,
replace
twelve
out
of
the
sixteen,
so
I
just
wanted
to
mention
at
the
end
that
you
know
for
more
than
a
century
now.
Evanston
has
been
known
for
for
for
its
diversity,
and
we
noticed
there
is
a
huge
statistic
that
I
read
recently,
that
for
10-12
dkf
for
10
to
12
years
over
the
course
of
the
last
10
years
ever
stan
has
lost
40
percent
4-0
of
it's
affordable
units
to
market
rent
units.
M
If
you,
if
you
agree
with
me,
it's
like
saying,
has
lost
everything
has
lost
40%
of
its
low-income
residents
to
high
income
residents.
I
think
that
a
project
line
like
mine
today
will
help
reverse.
That
trend
can.
D
D
You
know
I
understand
that,
including
though
the
inclusionary
units
is
a
major
benefit
on
site,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
I
saw
the
rents
for
these
other
units
as
being
around
$1,800
for
a
one-bedroom
25,
something
for
a
two-bedroom
and
and
then
up
obviously
for
the
three-bedroom,
so
I
I
don't
know
that
I
would
call
this
project
an
affordable
housing
project.
I
would
call
it
a
luxury
residential
building
with
me,
though.
Those
rents
are
in
line
with
the
amly
building
and
and
others
of
the
high
amenity
buildings
in
Evanston.
D
A
Please
do
I
mean
before
you
comment,
sir
I
just
want
to
mention
to
you
that
the
evening
is
up
getting
late,
and
you
have
quite
a
few
neighbors
here.
That
would
like
to
speak
so
I'm
going
to
ask
you
and
your
team
to
just
make
it
a
little
bit
more
concise
so
that
we
can
have
public
comment
and
we'll
stop
interrupting.
M
This
is
concerned,
it's
like,
so
we
have
a
development
cause.
I'm
gonna
be
open,
it's
a
project
that
will
cost
me
about
5
million,
possibly
let
this
plus.
So
it's
like
combining
two
products
in
one:
it's
an
opportunity
for
low-income
residents
to
be
able
to
live,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
have
mortgage
to
pay
huge
mortgage.
You
know
you
know
what
75%
of
5
million
or
6
billion,
so
who's
gonna,
pay,
that
bill
and
and
that's
I'm
being
and
and
by
the
way
I
forgot.
M
I
should
have
thanked
Alderman
Simmons,
who
have
been
supporting
this
project
since
the
beginning
and
I
was
talking
to
her
the
other
day
she
mentioned.
Oh
I,
think
you
could
he
should
have
he
should
budget
more
than
than
this
amount,
so
we
have
real
estate
tax.
We
have
operating
expenses
that
yesterday
they're
in
state
taxes
we're
over
here
they're
up
by
40
percent
on
commercial
properties,
not
on
who's.
Gonna
pay
that
bill
with
me.
Who's
gonna
pay
the
mortgage
with
Oh.
M
So
so
so
to
answer
your
question:
Martin
I'm,
not
targeting
any
finishes
any
of
that
we're
weird
we're
not
at
that
stage.
Yet
but
I
have
you
know
people
that
I
have
to
pay.
You
have
bills,
I
have
operating
expenses.
We
have
a
recession
right
now
that
might
have
any
point
12
years
without
recession.
If
you
agree
with
me,
that's
a
lot
of
risk.
M
S
M
A
B
Just
to
clarify
for
everyone,
so
as
residents
get
up
and
speak
you're
welcome
to
ask
questions,
make
comments
and
to
the
developers
you're
welcome
to
once
they
wrap
up
you're,
welcome
to
get
up
and
respond,
or
if
you
would
like
to
wait
until
the
next
meeting
to
gather
your
thoughts,
you
can
do
that
as
well.
Okay,.
A
There's
several
people
here
that
would
like
to
speak
and
I
want
to
know
if
everybody
has
signed
in
on
the
sign-in
sheet
in
the
back,
everybody
that
plans
to
speak
and
I
know
some
people
came
in
late.
Is
there
anyone
here
who
has
who
came
in
late
and
did
not
get
sworn
in?
That
would
be
speaking
if
there
is
I'm
just
gonna
ask
you
to
raise
your
right
hand,
and
do
you
swear
and
affirm
that
the
testimony
we'll
provide
and
connection
will
this
case
will
be
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth.
A
C
Like
to
just
make
a
request
before
we
start
this
portion,
okay,
the
meeting
is
going
to
be
held
open
til
next
time.
If
you,
if
you
want
to
wait
and
consolidate
your
comments
until
next
time,
that'd
be
fine.
If
you
want
to
speak
tonight,
that'd
be
fine,
but
please
would
it
be
better
for
everyone?
If
we
don't
repeat
comments
or
repeat
comments
between
the
two
meetings
and.
A
O
Yeah
I
am
mark
beam
and
I
live
at
21:28.
Maple
and
I
have
I,
submitted
written
comments
about
this,
which
are
substantially
what
I
have
to
say
and
I'm
a
and
since
I
drafted
those
comments.
I've
learned
that
the
proposal
has
changed
somewhat,
so
some
of
them
were
not
entirely
accurate,
so
I
will
briefly
summarize
and
probably
come
back
and
talk
to
you
again
enjoy,
but
my
wife,
Susan
and
I
live
across
the
street
from
this
project.
21:28
maple
and
we
opposed
the
proposal
that
has
been
submitted.
We
don't
think
it's
good
for
the
neighborhood.
O
And
we
recognized
that
there
is
a
benefit
from
the
two
affordable
units
offered
by
the
developer.
But
he
could.
But
if
he
built
a
project
that
was
in
fact
consistent
with
the
existing
buildings
around
him.
That
is,
the
four-story
buildings,
40
foot
tall
buildings
and
not
so
dense
as
he
is
proposing.
He
would
still
have
to
provide
those
benefits
under
the
inclusionary
housing
permits.
So
as
as
mr.
Gingold
notice,
noted,
I
I,
don't
think
he's
really
giving
anything
for
those
units.
O
He's
asking
I
think
that
the
the
city's
zoning
ordinance
in
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
reflect
a
careful
and
detailed
balancing
of
interest,
and
they
should
be
treated
as
meaningful
rules
for
development
in
Evanston
and
not
just
suggestions
that
are
only
a
starting
point
for
haggling
over
how
much
more
can
I
get
excusing
the
developer
from
complying
with
those
rules
in
in
this
case,
simply
because
he
says
he
needs
more
money.
I,
don't
think.
There's
been
a
financial
projection
submitted
by
the
developers
of
details.
O
D
C
W
22,
a
Maple,
Avenue,
okay,
couple
doors
down
from
Mark
and
Susan
and
I
agree
with
Mark,
but
mark
has
expressed
here
and
I
am
also
opposed
to
it
and
I
just
want
to
add
a
lot
of
the
the
inquiries.
You
may
touched
on
sensitive
points
that
we
have
and
I
appreciated
that
that
was
like.
Okay,
it
was
concerns
and
I
want
to
make
an
observation
about
the
neighborhood.
This
we
were
there's
a
lot
of
benefit
in
here,
but
I
didn't
hear
anyone
say
didn't
benefit
the
neighborhood.
W
You
know
the
black
running
south
density
has
something
to
do
with
that.
But
another
one
is
the
obvious
pattern
in
the
neighborhood:
we've
lost
a
lot
of
single-family
how
homes
and
two
family
homes,
because
they
have
flipped
to
rentals
and
the
rentals,
have
become
very
attractive
to
the
students
and
that's
understandable,
but
all
rental
in
this
area
seems
to
have
a
gravitational
pull
to
students.
X
X
This
particular
project
really
needs
to
stay
consistent
with
what
is
around
it,
which
is
four
stories,
but,
more
importantly,
in
every
photograph
and
everything
that
we
see
we're
looking
south
to
the
noise,
Cultural
Arts,
Center
or
excuse
me
we're
looking
north
we're
not
turned
around
to
look
south
and
what
happens
on
that
side
and
the
minute
you
pass
the
one
apartment
building
that
is
right
next
door
to
it.
It
is
all
single
family
and
to
family
houses.
X
If
we
do
that,
if
I
mean
at
a
certain
point,
that
was
a
run
down
to
flat
that
was
purchased
particularly
to
develop
it
and
all
those
up.
All
of
those
parking
lots
or
parking
garages
that
are
behind
it
were
used
for
storage
from
various
people
all
around
the
the
vicinity.
Those
were
never
parking
spaces
and
if
you
were
to
look
in
them
now,
I
think
you
would
see
that
they're
used
as
storage
and
you
can
go
stand
at
the
L
which
I
do
because
I
choose
to
live
in
this
neighborhood.
X
That
is
close
to
the
L,
because
I
to
take
the
L
every
day,
and
so
but
I
live
in
a
single-family
house.
So
I
just
think.
It's
really
important
that
we
pay
attention
to
what
the
reason
that
this
we're
here
today
and
what
the
reason
the
purchase
was
made
for,
and
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
this
that
the
construction
or
the
development
that
is
put
in
place
is
consistent
with
our
neighborhood.
Thank
you
thank.
X
N
C
N
A
T
T
I
want
to
just
echo
what
James
said
about
the
parking
those
15
garages
are
storage,
nobody's
being
displaced,
no
commuters
going
to
the
city
are
gonna,
have
to
find
someplace
else
to
park,
I'm,
not
saying
that
maybe
they
run
to
a
couple
of
old
beater
cars
in
there
that
maybe
get
taken
up
once
in
a
while,
but
I
virtually
never
see
any
cars
coming
and
going.
So
this
is
gonna,
add
15
cars
into
the
neighborhood.
Essentially
and
one
other
question:
can
you
really
prevalent
arcing
on
the
street
I
mean?
T
J
B
So
consensus
among
the
board
is
that
we
would
prefer,
if
you
guys,
can
respond
at
the
next
meeting
since
we're
anticipating
that
there
will
be
some
additional
neighbor
comments.
So
when
we
start
the
next
meeting
will
let
any
additional
neighbors
get
up
and
speak.
And
then
you
guys
can
have
your
prepared
response
to
everything.
All
of
the
comments
that
them
said
so
far,
but.
C
B
D
If
I
can
just
throw
out
one
other
thing,
I
looked
at
the
petition
that
you
had
handed
to
us
and
it
seemed
as
though
there
were
not.
There
were
not
many
people
at
all
who
lived
in
that
block
of
maple
as
a
matter
of
fact,
most
of
them
are
in
totally
other
areas
of
Evanston.
M
M
A
B
M
Wanted
also
to
add
one
last
thing
that
I
would
have
it
with
me
at
the
July
hearing,
but
I
do
have
my
financials
that
I'm
happy
to
share
it
with
you
returns
numbers
anything
I
do
have
it
for
today.
It's
the
same
thing
that
I
stated
answering
your
questions
called
I
do
have.
G
This
basement
show
up
above
ground
No,
so
the
current
elevation
marks
that
you
have
have
on
the
sidewalk
and
everything
is
measured
above
the
sidewalk.
That's
for
the
building
height
right
and
have
considered
anything
like
different
about
the
location
of
your
staircases.
I
will
clear
a
little
bit
this
question.
Your
staircases
are
on
the
south
side
of
the
building.
Why.