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Testimony
is
taken
under
oath,
although
we
do
not
apply
the
strict
rules
of
evidence
and
procedures.
We
ask
that
you
keep
your
testimony
relevant
to
the
proposal
as
it
relates
to
the
standards
contained
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
When
you
testify,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
print
your
name.
Well,
let
us
know
your
name
so
that
we
can
call
on
you.
Each
case
will
be
introduced
by
staff,
and
a
list
of
documents
will
be
read
into
the
record.
Then
the
applicant
will
give
an
explanation
of
the
proposal
after
that.
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C
E
D
A
Perfect,
okay,
so
our
first
no
first
we
have
to
approve
the
meeting
minutes
our
last
meeting.
Believe
it
or
not
was
november
17th
of
2020..
Can
I
get
a
motion
for
approval
of
those
meeting
minutes.
E
A
A
G
Yes,
I'll
I'll
start
on
the
proposal
and
darien
will
weigh
in
add
some
color
as
necessary,
darian
and
his
wife
own
two
lots
actually
2648
2650
sheridan,
which
had
been
a
single
lot
recently
subdivided
into
two.
G
In
fact,
the
properties
had
been
permitted
with
a
single
curb
cut
off
of
sheridan
road
and
they've,
laid
out
a
design
for
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
edition
and
the
three-car
attached
garage
below,
which
includes
a
circular
driveway,
which
they
put
in
into
the
plans
because
of
the
characteristics
of
the
driveway
to
provide
for
safety
both
on
the
street
and
for
their
own
vehicular
access
out
onto
the
street
for
pedestrians
and
traffic
on
the
street,
because
they
wanted
to
be
able
to
easily
maneuver
safely
maneuver
in
and
out
of
the
garage
and
safely
exit
onto
sheridan
road.
G
And
they
felt
that
their
location
of
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
on
the
lot
was
constrained
by
some
of
the
peculiarities
of
the
lot
being
that
it's
not
quite
rectangular
in
the
back.
And
so
they
couldn't
locate
the
adu
in
the
back
and
given
that
they
bought
an
existing
new
but
new
home,
they
were
trying
to
minimize
the
amount
of
internal
demolition.
That
would
need
to
be
done
to
do
an
attached
accessory
dwelling
unit.
And
so
they
with
their
architect
on
a
design
that
kept
the
accessory
dwelling
unit.
G
Front
yard
areas
within
the
front
yard
limits,
but
it
it
created
the
constraints
on
the
location
of
the
adu,
have
dictated
what
kind
of
parking
layout
they
might
propose
in
the
front
and
the
previous
house
I
actually
had
you
know,
had
a
had
access
onto
sheridan
road.
They
had
actually
an
extra
wide,
a
driveway
24
foot,
wide,
curb
cut
and
or
20
foot
wide
current
cut.
Forgive
me
we're
preparing
to
proposing
to
restore
the
condition
of
single
curved
weapon
data.
G
Second
curb
cut,
both
of
which
in
total,
would
be
about
24
feet
of
curb,
but
so
the
property
does
have
a
garage
in
the
rear.
The
property
owner's
intent
is
to
actually
convert
that
into
a
studio
and
work
space
and
storage
area.
F
Hey
david
yeah,
one
thing
really
quick
kade.
Another
supporter
of
mine,
who's,
gonna,
speak
on.
My
behalf
is
trying
to
get
into
the
meeting.
G
So
the
issue
here
in
this
case
is
one
of
taking
a
single
curve
cut
and
adding
a
second
curve
cut
to
serve
one
property.
This
is
not.
It
was
laid
out
as
two
lots
with
a
single
curve
cut.
A
G
G
We
think
that
this
location
and
this
drive
is
allows
for
ease
of
movement
on
the
property
and
off
of
the
property,
and
in
particular,
what's
important
to
us
is
how
readily
negotiable
is
the
exiting
for
elderly
residents,
in
particular
of
the
property,
and
how
well
does
it
function
for
them
to
exit
in
a
forward
movement.
G
As
an
aside,
the
curb
cut
that's
been
approved
for
the
lot
had
a
condition
on
it
that
the
property
owner
utilized
a
three-point
turnaround
so
that
they
could
exit
forward
facing
from
the
lot.
That
was
for
a
different,
anticipated
house
layout,
which
was
more
in
the
rear
of
the
property.
But
now
that
that
lots
are
consolidated,
that
and
the
adu
location
in
connection
to
the
existing
home
is
constrained.
G
That
three-point
turnaround
concept
doesn't
really
have
the
requisite
space
to
be
designed
and
put
on
here
unless
it
exceeded
the
lot
front
yard
lot
coverage.
So
part
of
our
argument
here
is
that
we
are
looking
at
a
single
variance.
G
G
So
we
see
this
as
really
a
choice
in
our
proposal
between
a
variance
to
allow
a
second
curb
cut
where
the
coverage
is
compliant
or
a
variance
to
exceed
the
coverage
for
a
three-point
turnaround,
and
our
strong
preference,
of
course,
is
for
the
exiting
by
the
turn
around
by
the
circular
drive,
because
we
know
that
there
are
going
to
be
tight
maneuvers
to
do
a
three-point,
turn,
180
degree
exit
off
of
this
property
or
tight
maneuvers
with
a
large
pad
to
do
a
three-point,
maneuver
off
of
the
property.
G
That's
the
the
general
gist.
I
would
like
to
make
sure
we
go
through
and
address
each
of
the
standards
you
know
for
the
granting
of
the
variants.
G
I
think
that
we
also
wanted
to
point
out
a
couple
of
thoughts
on
this
one.
G
We
thought
that
the
circular
design
was
more
aesthetically
pleasing
from
the
street
than
the
larger
pad
in
front
of
the
garage
that
would
be
necessary
for
the
three-point
turn
we
also
darien
went
to
great
lengths
to
contact
his
neighbors
and
he
kind
he
got
letters
of
support
which
are
in
the
packet
from
approximately
75
percent
of
the
properties
that
are
within
100
or
500
feet
of
the
site
and
in
particular
he
got
almost
all
of
the
property
owners
immediately
along
sheridan,
road,
north
and
south,
not
just
adjacent
properties,
but
all
up
and
down
north
and
south
sheridan
roads
on
clinton
place
and
across
an
ingleside
park.
G
G
So
so
you
have
ingleside
park.
That
entrance
is
is
right
across
from
here,
and
you
have
the
park
outside
the
street
and
part
of
the
concern
with
making
sure
that
we
have
viable
front
facing
exiting
is
that
rear
face
as
exiting
would
be
very
complicated,
especially
going
northbound
because
of
having
to
cross
southbound
sheridan
road
cross,
the
turning
lane
and
enter
into
northbound
sheridan
roads
drive
and
with
elderly
population,
which
the
adu
is
designed
for
for
this
family
and
and
hopefully,
a
successor
family
years
from
now.
G
We
want
to
create
a
situation
that
creates
the
best
safest
access
in
egress
for
the
people
who
are
here
and
frankly
for
guests
and
delivery
vehicles,
and
that's
an
aside
point.
I'd
also
like
to
make
too
this
circular
drive
provides
some
amount
of
guest
parking
for
short-term
guests,
but
also
provides
delivery,
service
delivery
and
service
vehicle
parking.
Shared
road
doesn't
allow
parking
anymore
and
the
parking
in
the
streets
that
approximate
to
this
is
pretty
challenged,
both
by
the
existence
of
multiple
curb
cuts
and
some
no
parking
sign
restrictions.
So
we.
D
E
G
Anecdotal
evidence
that
people
who
have
tried
to
visit
the
property
have
had
to
park
one
and
a
half
blocks
away
and
make
their
way
over.
That's
an
especially
challenging
situation
for
somebody
who
is
maybe
an
elderly
friend
who's
coming
to
visit,
and
especially
an
inclement
weather
coming
by
to
visit
and
have
to
walk
a
considerable
distance
to
the
house
with
a
circular
drive
in
particular
we'd.
Be
able
to
have
some.
C
G
Of
you
know,
guest
parking
on
the
property
which
we
think
is
a
desirable
amenity
here,
and
we
also
think
that
this
layout
fits
with
in
the
context
of
this
sharon
road
corridor.
G
So,
if
you'd
like,
I
should
go
through
the
the
various
standards
for
the
granting
of
a
variance.
A
Could
you
hold
on
one
second,
sir,
I'd
like
our
board
to
be
able
to
ask
you
questions
about
what
you
just
described,
absolutely
okay,
the
board.
E
I
have
questions.
Are
we
forfeiting
our
ability,
then,
to
ask
questions
after
we
run
through
with
mr
meeks,
mr
meek,
of
the
conditions.
A
A
J
I
would
actually
prefer
to
hear
mr
meek
give
his
full
explanation
and
before.
G
Thank
you.
So
this
is
a
major
variance
request
and
there's
several
standards.
The
first
is
that
the
proposal
won't
have
a
substantial
adverse
impact
on
the
use,
enjoyment,
property
values
of
neighboring
properties.
G
Well,
first
of
all,
we
we've
just
we've
presented
you
with
all
the
neighbor
letters
of
support,
and
we,
you
know
note
that
this
front
loading
condition
is
both
approved
and
for
single
curb
cut,
and
that
could
so
conceptually
the
use
of
the
front
for
driveway
access
is,
is
compatible
and
the
neighbors
understand
the
challenges
of
getting
into
the
property
from
sheridan
road,
and
they
recognize
that
the
driver
plan
is
a
safety
improvement
and
especially
they
were
giving
providing
an
adu
for
additional
elderly
residents
and
that
there
are
other
nearby
properties
on
sheridan
road
which
also
have
have
circular
drive.
G
So
we
we
don't
think
we
think
this
property
meets
that
standard,
and
frankly,
the
adapter
review
staff
also
agreed
with
us
with
respect
to
the
next
standard
that
the
proposal
is
in
keeping
with
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
The
effort
didn't
agree
with
us
on
this
on
the
basis
that
they
said
we
had
alley
access
to
an
attached
garage
and
but
we
know
that
the
property
is
approved
for
a
single
curb
cut
and
the
variance
here
is
not
a
variance
with
respect
to
whether
a
curb
cut
can
be
granted.
It's
really.
H
G
That
preference
that
preference
for
ally's
ali
access
is
subject
to
exceptions
where
there
are
legally
existing,
curb
cuts.
We
have
here
so
the
curb
cut
is
approved
and
available
to
my
client,
irrespective
of
the
existence
of
an
alley
garage.
G
So
in
that
respect,
this
proposal
is
in
keeping
with
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance
that
legal
standard
and
again
the
variance,
is
limited
in
scope
to
the
request
for
a
essentially
a
secondary
curve.
C
G
D
G
G
Also,
I
would
note
6-16-2-2
regarding
access
to
parking.
This
is
again
going
to
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance
and
that
provision
says
that
this
that
all
off
street
parking
shall
be
designed
with
appropriate
needs
of
access
to
a
street
or
alley
in
a
manner
that
will
at
least
interfere
with
street
traffic
movement.
G
We
would
stipulate.
We
think
that
the
circular
driveway
is
an
access
in
a
manner
that
at
least
interferes
with
street
traffic
and
presents
the
the
best
options
for
getting
in
and
out
of
the
property.
Also
recall
that
the
existing
garage
is
while
it
exists.
G
G
It
makes
it
challenging
and
darren
could
speak
to
this
better
than
I
to
come
into
the
property
and
which
direction
you
come
in
dictates
how
you
can
enter
the
garage
because
of
the
narrowness
of
the
garage
of
the
driveway,
the
alley
and
the
fact
that
the
opposite
side
of
the
alley
has
a
solid
wood
fence
which
constrains
how
much
your
front
of
your
car
camera
can't
cross
over
onto
the
neighboring
property.
As
you
negotiate
the
turning
movements,
whether
forward
or
back
into
the
garage.
G
So
the
the
the
the
garage
has
some
severe
limitations
in
terms
of
accessibility.
G
The
the
third
standard
is
whether
the
proposal
has
a
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
that
is
peculiar
to
the
property
and
we've
gone
over
some
of
these,
but
I'll
just
say
that
you
know
we
have
bought
a
property
with
a
condition
of
an
existing
house,
an
existing
garage.
G
I
just
mentioned
the
constraints
of
the
garage,
and
then
the
constraints
of
the
lot
layout,
which
dictated
where
the
attached
accessory
dwelling
unit
could
go,
are
matters
that
that
lead
to
the
practical
difficulty
of
having
to
locate
the
driveway
set
back
where
it
is,
and
that
I
would
note
that
compliance
again
with
the
three-point
turnaround
as
an
option
is
not
possible
without
a
variance.
G
And
and
frankly,
the
safety
being
a
particular
concern
with
accessory
dwelling
units
and
access
on
to
safe
onto
sheridan
road,
all
of
which
factor
into
the
consideration
that
this
property
presents
some
practical
difficulties,
and
these
aren't.
This
goes
to
the
fourth
standard,
mere
inconveniences.
G
G
A
G
To
apply
and
require
variance,
that's
the
three-point
turnaround
single
curb
cut.
It
wasn't
a
self-created
situation
in
that
we
bought
an
existing
home
and
yes,
we're
trying
to
do
an
accessory
dwelling
in
it,
but
any
variance
that
comes
before
you
is
somebody
requesting
to
do
something.
G
G
Let's
see,
then
there
is
the
final
requirement
that
the
proposal
be
the
require
the
least
deviation
from
the
applicable
regulation
among
the
feasible
options
identified
and
again
it's
about
a
comparison
of
the
deviation
from
lot
coverage
in
the
front
yard
for
a
single
access
with
a
three-point
turn
versus
the
circular
driveway,
and
we
think
that
the
hammerhead
option,
or
that
that
three-point
turn
option
again
creates
tight
movements
that
are
challenging
for
the
elderly
to
negotiate
paved
area
that
would
extend
into
the
north
side
yard
contrary
to
city
design,
driveway
design
requirements,
and
that
this
this
option
would
be
less
aesthetically
pleasing.
G
So
we
think,
in
conclusion,
that
our
circular
driveway
plan
is
the
best
option
in
terms
of
scope
of
a
request.
The
deviation
from
standards,
the
best
option
in
terms
of
safety,
certainly
convenience
and
aesthetics,
and
for
extent
of
compliance
best
option
in
terms
of
the
extent
of
compliance
with
zoning
regulations
and
that
it's
functionally.
E
C
A
C
A
couple
of
times
that,
if
it
was
the
option
with
a
single
curb
cut
and
the
three-way
getting
out
of
the
garages
will
be,
will
need
another
variance
about
the
impervious
area.
Yes,
was
this
a
kind
of
a
shown
graphically
on
any
of
your
drawings?
G
F
Yeah,
I
I
did
explore
it
and
we
do
have
a
drawing
of
it.
The
initial
drawing
of
it
the
variance
set,
was
at
50
percent
and
the
reason
why
is
because
you
know
we
got
three
three
garages
when
you're
trying
to
maneuver
a
multi-point
turn
going
back.
We
needed
enough
driveway
space
in
order
for
there
to
be
multiple
places
for
that
car
to
go
to,
especially
in
consideration
that
the
adu
is
for
the
elderly.
F
So
again
we
chose
the
circular
drive
because
it
has
we're
able
to
do
it
with
a
30,
which
means
which
means
which
meets
the
the
variance,
also
because
it's
just
a
lot
easier
to
not
make
that
you
know
180
degree
turn,
but
then
also.
The
third
piece
is
that
remember:
there's
going
to
be
kids
here
for
a
three,
you
know
it's
it's
unrealistic
to
think
that,
in
a
practical
sense
that
kids
are
always
going
to
be
coming
in
and
out
of
the
garage
you
know
I've
got
kids.
F
I've
got
my
kids
kids.
You
know
I
didn't
really
want
or
wanted
to
minimize
kids
running
over
the
the
driveway,
where
somebody's
trying
to
back
out
and
maneuver
and
then
loading
the
kids
in
and
out.
I
just
didn't
want
that
conflict
between
the
kids
and
the
cars
maneuvering
and
with
the
circle
drive,
it
is
the
absolute
most
minimal
easiest
flow
because
when
you
back
your
back
straight
out
of
the
garage
you
basically
just
kind
of
turn
forward
and
and
to
the
left
and
the
kids
get
loaded
in
and
out
of
the
passenger
side.
F
So
those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
we
talked
about
and
we
looked
at
between
the
hammer
head
and
the
circular
drive.
B
D
B
In
here
remember
miranda:
they
never
presented
that
plan
to
staff.
So
I
I
don't
know
the
numbers.
I
see
no
reason
to
think
that
that
would
trigger
an
impervious
surface
variation.
I
don't
see
how
removing
a
curb
cut
in
half
of
that
driveway
would
increase
a
lot
coverage
yeah.
I
think
it's
also
key
to
note
that
the
edu
is
not
constructed.
So
if
they
did
exceed
the
impervious
surface,
there
are
certainly
ways
they
could
reduce
that
lot
coverage
without
triggering
a
variation.
G
G
Yeah
right
you're
right,
actually
that
is
that
is
not
it
would
be,
it
would
be
the
the
ice.
I
hear,
I
see
what
you're
saying
there,
the
the
50.
It
would
be
a
50
area
coverage
in
that
area,
so
it
would
be
more
area
coverage
and
so
aesthetically.
It
would
look
greater
than
what
we're
proposing
in
terms
of
improvising
area
in.
J
I
have
a
question:
what
is
the
status
of
the
edition?
The
permitting.
E
F
Yeah,
I
can
definitely
talk
through
that
and
you
know
I
think
I
have
one
of
my
supporters
here.
Alf
mcconnell
that
can
probably
talk
talk,
talk
about
safety
pieces
of
that
as
well,
but.
F
If
we,
if
they
have
to
back
out,
they
would
back
out
into
the
main
you
know
into
the
main
house,
so
they
would
back
out
and
back
out
into
the
main
house,
and
so
I
didn't
want
to
have
the
kids
running
across
the
street,
where
somebody
is
backing
out
to
kind
of
be
loaded
on
the
passenger
side,
which
is
where
you
know.
Typically,
at
least
I
said,
that's
kind
of
where
I
kind
of
how
how
I
load
my
kids
and
my
family
loads,
the
kids.
F
So
we
didn't
want
to
be
any
conflict
between
kids
running
into
the
house
and
somebody
backing
out
now,
knowing
that
also,
this
is,
for
you
know
the
elderly.
You
know
I
have
a
hard
time
personally,
you
know
every
time
I
have
to
back
out
and
turn
at
the
same
time,
it's
really
difficult
for
me.
I
know
it's
difficult
for
anybody
and
for
an
elderly
person.
F
So
you
know
the
the
the
there's
just
not
a
lot
of
space
between
where
the
adu
is
located
and
where
sheridan
road
is,
I
just
don't
have
the
space.
I
have
very,
very
little
space.
So
does
that
kind
of
answer
your
question
about
about
the
safety
concerns?
I
know
I
I
I
was
concerned
about
the
kids.
I
was
also
concerned
about
somebody
backing
up
and
driving
into
like
a
tree
or
into
bushes,
or
something
like
that.
J
Can
you
talk
through
more
about
what,
how
many
vehicles
we're
talking
about
and
how
you
anticipate
different
members
of
your
of
your
household
to
be
using
the
cars
like
the
the
packet
mentioned,
a
lot
of
different
uses
between
guests
and
permanent
use?
I
mean:
are
you
planning
to
keep
the
cars
in
the
garage
parked
outside
the
garage?
I
need
I'd
like
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
like
what
the
needs
are.
The
planned
uses.
F
Yeah,
so
we
plan
to
have
three
three
cars
for
four
different
drivers
and
the
cars
are
planned
to
be
inside
the
garage
and
we
don't
plan
to
use.
I
mean
I'll
board
it
up
if
you
want
me
to
but
to
demonstrate
it,
but
but
I
don't
plan
to
use
the
alley
at
all
whatsoever.
F
There
are
inherent
challenges
with
the
alley
and
of
note.
I
will
say
that
all
but
two
of
the
people
who
signed
my
neighbors,
who
signed
the.
F
F
So
you
know
I
I
I
have
a
workshop.
I
I
do
work
like
that.
My
wife
does
as
well,
so
our
total
plan
was
to
not
use
the
garage
at
all
whatsoever
to
drive
cars
in
and
out
of.
F
G
Excuse
me:
no,
please,
no,
please
go
ahead
well.
Thank
you.
Darian,
very
briefly,
just
try
to
illustrate
the
challenge,
even
if
you
were
to
keep
the
garage
as
a
for
parking,
the
challenge
yeah,
given
its
orientation.
F
Yeah,
so
the
problem
is
that
there's
no
setback.
I
have
no
idea
how
this
garage
was
proved
because
all
the
other
garages
have
a
setback.
It's
stepped
back
like
three
or
four
or
four
or
five
feet
from
the
alley.
I
am
literally
right
on
top
of
the
alley
and
it
even
it
even
looks
like
my
garage
protrudes
into
the
alley,
but
I'm
limited
in
the
direction.
So
I
can't
because
there's
also
because
because
there's
no
setback
and
because
the
alley
is
not
perpendic,
the
garage
is
not
perpendicular
to
the
alley.
F
I'm
limited
by
how
I
can
use
the
garage
by
which
way
I
go
so
if
I,
if
I
pull
into
if
I
use
the
alley
from
angle
side,
so
that's
from
the
north
side,
I
have
to
pull
in
forward
all
right.
I
I
can't,
and
the
only
way
would
be
then
to
then
pull
back
out
and
then
only
and
then
keep
on
going
and
then
keep
going
south.
I
can't
make
the
turn
the
other
way.
I
don't
have
the
room
to
make
the
turn
and
I
even
sent
multiple
pictures
of
david
showing.
F
I
can't
make
this
turn.
If
you
go
against
the
way
that
the
garage
is
situated
same
in
reverse,
if
I
come
in
through,
if
I
come
in
from
from
clinton,
I
could
I
could
only
back
into
the
garage
and
only
you
know
continue
to
exit
exit
the
alley
heading
the
north.
So
I
really
don't
have
freedom
of
movement
on
on
both
sides,
like
all
of
my
neighbors
do,
because
all
my
neighbors,
their
garage
is
perpendicular
and
they
have
a
setback.
G
And
I
would
just
add
that
it
doesn't
appear
that
way
on
the
site
plan
based
on
where
the
property
line
is,
but
in
fact
the
reality
on
the
ground
is
that
the
corner
of
the
garage
appears
to
protrude
into
what
is
functionally
the
alley
space.
The
other
implication
for
not
having
for
the
orientation
affecting
which
way
he
can
enter
an
exit
is
to
the
extent
that
one
direction
is
temporarily
blocked
by
garage
garbage
trucks
or
other
vehicles
which
are
parked
in
the
alley.
G
Then
he's
potentially
constrained
with
even
exiting,
if
that,
either
northbound
or
southbound,
depending
on
how
he
ended
up
parking.
The
drive
the
car
in
the
garage,
then
his
exiting
is
severely
constrained
by
that
potential
blockage
in
the
driveway.
It's
not
a
temporary
thing.
He
doesn't
have
the
option
of
turning
around
to
the
other
way.
E
Another
question
I'm
I
keep
going
back
to
as
I
have
at
standard
c.
You
know
the
peculiarity
to
the
property,
the
hardship
or
difficulty
peculiar
to
the
property.
I
F
Yeah,
I
could
take
a
stab
at
that,
so
the
current
house
is
where
it's
at
right
and
the
back
of
the
lot
doesn't
allow
there's
not
enough
space
in
the
back
a
lot
for
the
adu,
because
I
have
another
house
there.
That's
that's
chris
and
jenny
that
live
back
there,
so
the
adu
has
to
be
on
the
side.
That's
also
where
the
mudroom
is.
The
mudroom
happens
also
to
be
on
the
north
side
of
the
house.
F
So
the
only
way
the
only
position
that
I
can
place
the
adu
is
where
it's
at
now.
Okay,
that
is
a
hardship
based
on
how
my
house
is
configured
right
now.
There
is
no
way
that
I
can
push
that
now.
I
did
consider
decades
point
in
the
dapper
meeting
he
had
asked.
Why
can't
you
push
the
adu
back?
Well,
the
problem
with
pushing
the
adu
back
is
that
it
would
totally
change
how
I
would
have
to
configure
the
inside
of
the
house
because
then
the
entrance
of
my
adu
is
into
my
kitchen.
F
So
then
I'd
have
to
rearrange
my
entire
inside
of
the
house
change
my
kitchen,
my
breakfast
room
in
the
mud
room.
Oh,
my
god
that
would
be
insane
with
the
amount
of
the
the
amount
of
cost
that
that
would
be
so,
and
I
the
adu,
is
as
far
back
as
I
could
possibly
push
it.
I
mean
I,
I
went
back
multiple
times
in
my
architect
and
said,
push
this
thing
back,
because
I
need
more
space,
for
I
need
the
space
for
the
driveway.
How
am
I
going
to
maneuver
this?
F
So
that
has
nothing
to
do.
That's
not
a!
I
didn't
create
that
and
it's
just
the
way
the
property
is,
and
I
also
didn't
create
the
situation
of
where
the
garage
is
at
it's
just
the
garage
is
where
it's
at
is
that
I
don't
know
david.
Do
you
have
any
other
thing
to
add
to
that.
G
It's
it's
a
the
question
is
the
the
hardship
that
justifies
the
circular
drive
as
opposed
to
the
single
drive
with
a
three-point
turnaround,
and
because
we're
permitted
to
do
a
single
drive
off
of
sheridan
road
with
a
three-point
turnaround
and
the
hardship
comes
from
the
fact
that
the
three-point
turnaround
that
was
conceived
of
would
have
been
for
a
different
house
at
the
far
rear
of
the
property,
where
there
was
more
an
additional
space
in
which
to
construct
the
three-point
turnaround
to
change.
G
The
adu
has
limitations
on
where
the
adu
can
be
put,
and
the
setback
on
on
the
property
is
is
what
it
is.
You
know
there.
There
is
a
framerate
setback
established
by
the
existing
home,
and
so
there's
limited
geometry
in
which
to
locate
either
the
three-point
turnaround
and
limited
area
or
the
circular
drive.
B
I
would
just
point
out
for
members
of
the
board
that
when
you
talk
about
limit
limitations
of
where
the
adu
is
place,
those
aren't
code
limitations.
B
Those
are
your
own
limitations
and
that
that
that
rear
portion
of
the
lot
is
about
70
feet
wide.
The
standard
lot
is
35
feet
wide
and
we
do
get
a
lot
of
adus
on
on
those
lots.
G
My
client
is
proposing
a
it's
an
attached,
not
a
detached
adu.
It's
proposing
a
three-car
garage
where
the
other
lots
that
may
be
able
to
accomplish
you
to
use
on
smaller
lots
may
already
have
parking
that
they're
utilizing
and
a
house
of
this
size
with
this
many
residents.
I
think
it's
pretty
standard
to
expect
to
try
to
get
three-car
garage,
especially
considering
that
there's
no
approximate
street
parking.
D
Actually,
I
have
one
question
to
staff:
what's
the
parking
requirement
for
this
adu
now
that
was
a
two-part
two-car
garage
in
the
back.
So
what
is
the
necessary
parking
requirement
for
the
for
the
addition.
A
C
A
D
A
Okay,
do
you
have
people
that
have
joined
our
meeting
in
support
of
your
proposal.
F
Yes,
I've
got
alf,
mcconnell
and
zach
kristoff
al.
Do
you
want
to
start.
I
I
I
was
born
and
raised
in
evanston
and
have
lived
most
of
my
77
years
here
in
evanston,
I'm
a
real
estate
developer
by
profession,
having
been
in
the
industry
for
in
the
real
estate
industry
for
50
years,
my
wife
and
I
our
house
has
a
driveway.
I
It's
not
wide
enough
to
have
a
circular
driveway,
so
we
back
into
the
street
and
I'd
love
to
have
a
wide
lot
like
darien
has
to
have
a
circular
drive,
because
it's
it's
sometimes
dangerous
backing
up.
We
have
to
be
very
careful
of
people
walking
on
the
sidewalk
and
backing
into
the
street
traffic
from
both
directions
and
then
pull
forward
from
there.
I
I
might
mention
I
heard
somebody
mentioned
earlier
about
circular
drives
on
what
was
it
ridge
and
what
other
street
crawford
just
to
the
north
of
darien's
house.
There
is
a
house
on
sheridan
road
that
does
have
a
half
circle
drive.
F
I
One
of
the
advantages
of
having
a
half
circle
drive,
rather
than
a
lot
of
pavement
that
would
result
in
one
being
able
to
maneuver
around
and
then
pull
out
would
be
that
you
end
up
having
less
pavement
and
therefore
more
rain.
Water
would
be
absorbed
into
the
ground
so
from
an
ecological
viewpoint,
and
it
would
be
less
water
going
into
the
into
the
city
drainage
system.
I
I
So
I'm
particularly
sensitive
to
these
issues,
and
I
think
that
it
would
be
smart
for
the
public
in
general,
because
backing
out
into
sheridan
road
would
be
dangerous
because,
as
you've
already
witnessed,
the
sort
of
traffic
that
comes
along
there,
the
volume
of
traffic
and
the
speed.
I
And
then
the
people
of
course,
walking
on
the
sidewalk
it'd
be
safer.
With
a
half
circle
drive.
I
F
And
I've
got
one
other
person.
Zach
kristoff
is
that
kristoff.
H
Sir
hello,
how
you
doing
my
name
is
zach
custock,
first
off
I'd
like
to
thank
the
the
board
members
for
everything
you
do
for
the
city,
and
you
know
the
service
that
you
do
by
being
on
calls
like
this
tonight.
I've
lived
in
evanston
for
seven
years.
H
I've
lived
it
my
current
address
of
2626
sheridan
road,
which
is
two
houses
south
of
the
halligan
residence
for
about
four
and
a
half
years
now,
and
you
know
in
full
transparency,
I've
I've
met
darian
once
in
person
and
had
had
a
phone
conversation
with
him
on
this
this
issue.
So
I
don't
have
an
agenda
or
a
long-standing
relationship
with
darian
other
than
as
a
as
a
concerned
citizen,
I'm
a
father
of
five
young
children,
so
so
living
on
a
busy
road
like
sheridan
safety
is
always
my.
H
Priority,
I
know
my
wife's
number
one
priority,
so
I
think
you
know
looking
at
this.
You
know
less
as
from
a
homeowner's
perspective,
but
from
a
resident's
perspective
and
and
visiting
the
the
halligan
residents.
H
You
know
I
just
have
concern
and
that's
why
I'm
on
in
support
of
the
circular
drive
of
any
time
anyone
would
have
to
to
back
onto
sheridan
road.
I
think
it
presents
significant
risk
and,
like
I
said
you
know,
maybe
a
larger
family
than
most
with
five
kids,
but
you
know
have
a
large
vehicle.
H
So
you
know,
visibility
is,
is
always
a
little
bit
more
challenging
the
the
larger
the
vehicles
are,
and
so,
whether
it's
a
you
know
trying
to
do
a
three-point
turn,
and
you
know,
there's
young
kids
running
back
and
forth,
or
particularly
particularly
pulling
onto
sheridan
road,
especially
the
the
stretch
that
I
live
on
and
darien
lives
on
from
the
light
at
central
street
to
to
when
sheridan
road
curves
and
turns
into
isabella.
H
You
know
there
are
cars
that
are
they're
going
faster
than
the
than
the
speed
limit.
I've
seen
it
seen
it
firsthand.
You
know
have
also
you
know
seen
that
there
has
been
approval
for
for
other
residents
to
to
get
a
circular
drive
for
the
the
similar
reasons
of
that
the
risk
factor.
So
you
know,
and
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
an
expert
on
on
the
the
zoning
rules
like
like
you
all.
H
Are
you
know,
but
but
really
just
coming
from
a
resident's
perspective
and
not
seeing
it
as
jeopardizing
the
aesthetics
or
the
integrity
of
sheridan
road?
And
for
me
it's
really
just
about
you,
know
the
safety
and
efficacy
of
a
circular
drive
and
if
you
can
completely
eliminate
any
risk
of
potentially
backing
onto
sheridan
road.
You
know.
That's
that's
why
you
know
I
just
just
want
to
speak
on
behalf
of
of
that,
and
you
know
the
safety
for
for
the
residents
coming
in
and
out
so.
A
Okay,
any
more
support.
A
H
The
but
it's
worth
my
wife
is
fully
supportive
as
well
she's
she's,
not
on
the
ball
and
she's
with
our
kids,
but
but
but
I'm
speaking
on
her
behalf
as.
G
Madam
chair,
you,
you
asked
what
signatures
at
the
end
of
the
packet
starting
on
page
65
of
pdf
is
an
email
which
attaches,
I
think,
it's
23
properties
who
would
all
been
in
in
the
immediate
vicinity
who
were
in
support
of
this.
I
This
is
alf
mcconnell
speaking
again,
can
you
hear
me.
I
I
might
mention
that
one
of
the
140
unit
apartment
community
they
developed,
won
the
1998
pillars
of
the
industry
award
for
best
property
of
its
kind
in
the
nation,
and
then
a
subsequent
property
was
a
finalist
in
a
national
development
competition
for
best
property
of
its
kind
in
the
nation.
So
I
do
have
a
sense
of
aesthetics
and
I
like
quality
real
estate
and
therefore
my
my
I'm
coming
from
a
different
viewpoint
than
many
people.
I
J
I
have
a
question
for
zach
either
you
mentioned
you
mentioned
that
safety
is
important
to
you.
How
do
you
feel
about
the
fact
that
your
neighbor
is
trying
to
double
the
amount
of
conflict
points
between
pedestrians
and
vehicles
along
the
sidewalk,
so
close
to
your
home.
H
Sorry,
I
think
that
I
think
that
one
was
was
for
for
me.
You
know
you
bring
up
a
very
good
point
with
that.
You
know
I
view
it
as
an
either
or
and-
and
I
think
I
would
rather
have
one
additional
point
of
entry
or
exit
with
with
a
clear
view
versus
having
someone
back
out
on
the
sheridan
road
and
not
be
able
to
to
see-
and
you
know
I
think
not
only
does
backing
in
and
out
cause.
H
You
know
a
conflict
point
potentially
where
that
where
the
driveway
is,
but
if
there
are
any
cars
swerving
out
of
the
the
way-
and
you
know
that
that's
you
know,
my
biggest
concern
is
that's
that
have
kids
from
second
grade
down
to
two
and
a
half
years
old,
and
you
know
I
even
see
myself
as
I'm
walking
along
the
sidewalk.
There
are
some
cars
that
are
going
pretty
fast
and
for
a
car
swerve
out
of
the
road
there.
G
C
G
H
There's
quite
a
bit
of
foot
traffic
with
lighthouse
beach.
There
there's
a
park
and
in
the
bike
lanes
that
are
they're
on
the
opposite
side
of
of
the
street.
But
the
the
bike
lanes,
particularly
in
the
warmer
months,
have
a
significant
amount
of
traffic.
And-
and
you
know
it's
it's
a
you
know
I
guess-
to
walk
along
sheridan
road.
You
have
to
be
on
on
one
side
or
the
other
to
access
the
the
park
or
the
beach
and
not.
H
Residents
whose
houses
are
there
but
from
where
parking
is
the
the
lot
at
lighthouse
beach
fills
up
quite
right
readily
in
the
in
the
morning,
especially
in
the
summer,
and
so
evanston
residents
have
to
park
on
other
side
streets
and
then
are
walking
to
the
park
and
walking
to
the
beach,
like,
I
said
many
times
very
family
friendly,
so
so
with
kids
or
with
strollers
or
other
things
that
they're
taking
to
to
the
beach
with
them.
So
I
would
say
yes,
sir,
there
is
you
know
fairly
high
foot
traffic.
H
J
I
have
one
more
follow-up
question,
making
kind
of
make
sure
I
understand
the
use,
so
we
mentioned
how
three.