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A
Good
evening,
everybody,
this
is
a
public
hearing
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals.
The
zoning
ordinance
empowers
us
to
hear
references
from
the
City
Council
petitions
from
other
parties
for
variances
and
special
uses
and
appeals
from
decisions
of
the
Zoning
Administrator.
We
hear
testimony
from
those
in
attendance
and
then
make
formal
findings
of
fact,
based
on
the
evidence
presented,
which
consists
of
testimony
and
exhibits
and
on
our
knowledge
of
the
community.
A
We
then
either
make
a
determination
or
recommendation
to
the
City
Council
testimony
is
taken
under
oath,
although
we
do
not
apply
the
strict
rules
of
evidence
and
procedures.
We
ask
that
you
keep
your
testimony
relevant
to
the
proposal
as
it
relates
to
the
standards
contained
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
When
you
testify,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
print
your
name
on
the
signup
sheet
outside
the
door.
Each
case
will
be
introduced
by
staff
and
a
list
of
documents
will
be
read
into
the
record.
A
Then
the
applicant
will
be
given
an
explanation
of
the
proposal
after
that.
Those
who
wish
to
testify
as
either
proponents
or
opponents
of
the
case
will
have
the
chance
to
do
so,
and
then
the
applicant
will
have
a
chance
to
respond
any
case
not
concluded
at
tonight's
hearing
will
be
continued
to
our
next
meeting
Melissa.
Please
call
the
roll.
A
D
A
All
in
favor
aye
any
opposed
okay.
So
today
we
have
three
cases
on
our
agenda.
However,
the
first
one
is
an
open
motion
for
conditional
approval
and
I
hope
that
the
people
that
are
coming
this
time
that
weren't
here
last
time,
I
had
a
chance
to
read
the
meeting
minutes.
Okay,
we'll
probably
just
go
over
the
motion,
because
there
was
a
lot
of
stuff
with
it.
Then
we
will
have
1327,
Chicago,
Avenue
and
then
1825
Lamar
Avenue
can
I
get
a
motion
to
continue
that
to
March
17
2020
from
anyone.
I
move.
E
A
A
Standard:
okay:
at
the
time
mr.
mirin
chef
motion
to
recommend
approval
of
the
request,
which
was
seconded
by
mr.
Novello,
with
the
following
conditions:
removal
of
the
second
floor,
roof
screen,
porch
a
poll
above
the
proposed
garage
and
replacement
with
an
open
roof
top
deck
and
railing
a
roofed
elevator
shaft
shall
be
permitted
at
number.
Two.
The
applicant
shall
develop
the
subject:
property
and
substantial
compliance
with
the
testimony
and
representations
of
the
applicant
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
and
the
plans
and
documents
on
this
file.
A
The
motion
failed
to
reach
for
concurrent
votes
once
three
to
one
and
will
be
considered
with
the
testimony
closed.
So
we
can't
have
further
testimony,
but
that
the
most
that's
the
motion
that
was
made
so
I
am
going
to
ask
since
it
was
made
and
seconded
I'm,
going
to
put
that
back
on
the
floor
and
ask
the
people
that
were
not
at
the
meeting
that
read
them.
Many
minutes
to
tell
me
if
they
are
yay
or
nay,
so
all
in
favor.
So.
E
E
May
I
start
with
some
questions,
I
believe
so.
I
read
all
the
meeting
minutes
Carol
and
Myrna
I'm
curious
of
your
opinions.
Based
on
you
know
the
you
know
the
back
and
forth
that's
happened
and
then
you
know
Carol
your
suggestion
of
the
removal
of
the
second
floor
screen
porch
whether
you
feel
like
this
is
the
you
know
the
lease
minimum
that's
now
needed
in
order
for
this
proposal
to
move
forward.
E
D
The
discussions
were
in
in
this
direction.
We
had
some
deliberations
on
the
required
distances
of
the
new
deck
to
the
south
property
line,
which
is
only
a
foot,
but
it
is
against
a
park
and
probably
never
there'll,
be
something
on
this
side.
So
we
discuss
that
this
could
be
allowed.
Then
we
discussed
the
bulk
of
the
structure
and
the
relationship
mainly
to
the
property
on
the
north
and
no
matter
that
my
strong
opinion
that
this
is
a
ugly
building
on
the
north.
D
It
is
a
property
that
could
be
developed
later
on
in
in
different
in
different
manner.
As
we
don't
know,
and
we
cannot
predict
what
will
happen
there.
So
the
more
we
comply
with
distances
and
with
bulk
regarding
the
relationship
between
the
two
properties,
the
better
we
discussed,
mainly
the
three-car
garage
and
whether
it
could
be
two
car
and
open
parking
space,
but
the
opinion,
a
kind
of
a
dominated
that
the
three-car
garage
is
a
better
option.
D
E
C
E
One
of
my
questions
that
I
had
to
Melissa
as
I
understand
that
you
know
the
the
residential
structure
requires
three
parking
garage
or
three
parking
spaces.
Three
off-street
parking
spaces,
but
it
occurred
to
me
as
I
was
reading
this
that
were
sort
of
twisting
ourselves
into
all
these
contortions
and
variances.
In
order
to
make
room
for
our
cars
here
and
so
my
question
to
Melissa
was
you
know
what
would
be
the
process
and
do
we
even
want
to
consider
what
it
would
look
like
if
it
was
only
requiring
two
cars
I.
E
A
The
motion
is
approval
of
the
request
with
the
two
conditions
that
was
removal
of
the
second
floor.
Roof
screen
porch
above
the
proposed
garage
and
replacement
with
an
open
roof
top
deck
and
railing,
and
the
applicant
shall
develop
the
property
and
substantial
compliance
with
the
testimony
that
they
represented
at
the
last
meeting.
So
I
want
to
ask
the
members
that
weren't
present
all
in
favor
aye
aye
any
opposed
okay,
so
Melissa
what
happens
next?.
B
A
B
A
Shapiro
applicant
submits
for
a
special
use
for
an
office
for
Richard
Shapiro
attorney
at
law.
In
the
our
five
general
residential
district
zoning
code,
Section
six,
eight
seven
three,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals,
makes
a
recommendation
to
City
Council.
The
the
determining
body
for
this
case
included
along
with
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
packet,
is
a
binder
of
information
from
the
applicant
that
everyone
should
have
as
well
as
one
letter
of
opposition
that
was
received
today.
G
Good
evening,
good
evening,
my
name
is
Tom
Quinn
I'm,
mr.
Shapiro's
attorney
I'm
from
the
law
firm
of
Riley,
safer
homes
in
Kinsella
and
with
me
is
my
colleague,
booth
Cooley,
also
from
the
Riley
safer
homes
in
Kinsella
loft.
Unfortunately,
mr.
Shapiro
Richard
Shapiro
couldn't
come
to
see
me
because
he's
got
spinal
stenosis
and
he's
basically
on
the
flat
of
his
back.
So
we
thought
it
would
be
best
if
Miss,
Cooley
and
I
presented
the
information
and
then
to
the
extent
that
the
board
needs
to
interrogate
or
ask
questions
of
mr.
G
Shapiro
that
I
can't
answer
tonight.
He
would
be
certainly
assuming
in
a
month's
time
that
that
his
condition
has
improved,
and
we
certainly
hope
it
is
he's
under
a
doctor's
care
right
now
that
he
would
be
able
to
come
and
answer
any
further
question
that
the
members
of
the
board
would
have.
So
if,
if
it's
all
right
with
all
of
you,
then
I'll
just
proceed
and
present
mr.
Shapiro's
application.
B
Just
to
add
to
that,
the
this
case
has
been
continued
continued
once
by
the
city
and
once
previously
by
the
applicant,
so
in
discussing
with
the
applicant
I,
did
urge
them
to
comment
at
least
begin
the
case
tonight
so
that
we
can
get
through
at
least
some
of
it.
But
I
do
think
it
will
be
pertinent
to
have
the
applicant
himself
here
at
the
next
meeting.
B
A
G
Mr.
Shapiro
has
been
a
resident
of
Evanston
for
about
thirty
four
years.
Originally
he
was
a
renter
in
the
1327
Chicago
Avenue
location,
and
it
was
there
as
a
renter
that
he
began
his
law
practice
with
his
mom
and
his
aunt
helping
him.
It
was
a
very
small
practice
lived
in
the
building
and
over
time
it
grew.
G
He
was
able
to
purchase
13:27
in
1998
when
he
continued
to
live
there
and
and
his
mom
and
his
aunt
helping
and
a
couple
of
additional
folks
come
in
to
work
with
him
and
in
2002
when
the
owner
decided
to
sell
1320.
So
1998
is
when
he
bought
it,
but
in
2002
he
bought
a
condominium
right
next
door
in
the
location
which
is
I,
believe
it's
13
19
in
the
20
unit
kind
of
minion
building.
He
purchased
the
Greenwood
Avenue
528
location
in
2013,
at
a
foreclosure,
sale
and
beginning
in
2014.
G
He
also
used
that
for
his
real
estate
practice,
it
has
grown
gradually
over
time,
but
he's
been
very
successful,
especially
in
representing
Evanston
residents
with
respect
to
property.
Tax
appeals
I
believe
that
he
has
helped
about
23
or
24
hundred
residents
of
Evanston
in
connection
with
the
work
that
he
has
done.
G
Really
a
fraction
of
one
percent
of
the
time
do
the
clients
that
he
serve
actually
show
up
at
the
residences
and
similarly
of
the
folks
that
he
employs
many
of
them
from
one
time
to
another
work
remotely
so
I
think
as
Scott
Mangum
noted
at
the
dapper
hearing.
When
you
look,
if
you
sat
across
the
street
in
the
Bank
of
America
and
looked
at
those
two
buildings,
you
you
would
just
assume
that
they
were
normal
residences.
G
The
area
immediately
surrounding
the
two
houses
and
it's
important
I
think
you
all
know
eveson
quite
well,
obviously,
but
these
are
the
only
two
houses
on
that
block
on
Chicago
Avenue
that
the
green
would
address
is
really
right
on
the
corner
and
although
the
front
entrance
is
on
Greenwood
the
house,
the
whole
side
of
the
house
sits
on
Chicago
Avenue
and
then
there
is
the
1327
location.
But
after
that,
it's
a
20
unit,
condominium,
building,
followed
by
a
35
unit,
apartment
building
and
on
the
same
block.
G
It
is
zoned,
I,
believe
this
zoning
at
the
bottom
is
b1
and
right
across
the
street.
It's
b2,
so
the
two
are
on
Chicago
Avenue,
which
is
you
all
know,
is
a
very
busy
thoroughfare,
controlled
access,
thoroughfare
that
that
runs
the
length
of
Evanston,
and
so
this
is
really
a
very
busy
street.
There's
a
light
at
Greenwood
there's
a
light
at
Dempster
there's
traffic
on
this
street
all
the
time,
but
these
are
the
only
two
buildings
that
were
originally
single-family
residences
and
I.
G
Think
it's
pretty
important
because,
although
there's
a
reference
in
the
the
staff
memo
that
is
surrounded
on
three
sides
by
residences,
when
you
really
look
the
reality
is
to
the
north.
It's
the
First
Presbyterian
Church
parking
lot
to
the
west,
it's
the
Bank
of
America
building
and
to
the
south.
It's
a
very
large
condominium,
building
an
apartment
building,
closely
followed
by
all
of
this
commercial
and
on
the
west
side
of
the
street.
It's
all
commercial
throughout
the
entire
length
of
it.
G
His
business
has
conducted
either
online
or
over
the
telephone,
because
people
don't
need
to
come
to
his
office
in
order
to
present
the
information
for
their
cases
that
they
want
to
where
they
want
to
appeal
their
property
tax.
In
fact,
if
there's
a
need
for
face-to-face
contact,
typically
it's
at
the
clients
home
because
there
may
be
a
need
to
take
pictures
of
the
home
to
present
the
evidence
with
respect
to
a
property
tax
appeal.
G
G
H
G
So
he
he
rents
11
spots
from
his
neighbor's
directly
behind
that
location.
He
also
rents
11
spots
at
the
Holiday
Inn
couple
of
blocks
north.
He
has
two
spots
at
the
1200,
Chicago,
Avenue,
location
and
another
spot
at
Elmwood
and
Dempster.
So
all
told
he
rents
approximately
27
parking
spaces,
half
of
his
employees
at
least
half
take
public
transportation,
or
they
made
some
of
them
ride
their
bikes.
Some
of
them
walk.
H
G
Of
where
these
two
residences
are
located
and
so
half
the
people
will
will
don't
need
parking,
the
other
half
parked
in
one
of
those
spots.
He
specifically
checked
with
his
neighbors
to
find
out
if
any
of
them
have
had
anyone
else
asked
for
parking
spots
or
would
even
be
willing
to
rent
to
anyone,
and
they
say
no,
they
haven't
had
that
and
they
rent
to
Richard
because
they
regard
him
as
a
really
good
neighbor
and
they
don't
Park
on
the
street
themselves
in
order
to
lease
the
spots.
G
His
his
neighbor's
he's
also
talked
to
them,
and
if
he
were
here,
you
could
certainly
ask
questions.
They
do
not
object
to
his
use,
in
fact
they're.
They
regard
him
as
a
good
neighbor
I.
Think
if
you
look
in
your
packet,
the
condo
association,
which
you
know
like
condo
associations,
is
really
composed
of
a
lot
of
different
people
who
have
concerns
and
and
and
in
that
packet
they
had
a
number
of
different
concerns.
But
at
the
end
of
the
day
they
say
they
don't
object,
because
richard
has
been
a
good
neighbor.
G
He
makes
sure
that
his
walks
are
shoveled.
He
the
use,
because
I
indicated
earlier,
the
exterior
use
is
not
intense
at
all
and
one
of
the
other
factors
that
that
is
very
important
to
Richard
and
he
has
undertaken.
We
said
this
at
dapper
and
certainly
want
to
make
it
clear
again
he's
only
asking
for
a
special
use
to
run
during
the
time
that
he
owns
the
property,
he's
not
asking
for
a
permanent
special
use.
So
to
the
extent
he
wants
to
sell
the
property
in
the
future,
he's
perfectly
happy
with
it
returning
to
residential
use.
G
But
as
they
said,
these
are
the
only
two
buildings
residents,
single-family
residences
on
that
block
on
either
side
of
the
street,
but
nevertheless
he's
prepared
to
do
that.
And
if
it
means
that
he
would
have
to
take
a
financial
hit
as
a
result
of
it
he's
perfect
prepared
to
do
it
and
he's
told
that
to
his
neighbors,
and
you
know
he
certainly
intends
to
honor
that-
and
that's
all
he's
really
asking
from
this
board
in
terms
of
a
recommendation.
Excuse.
F
G
G
F
Question,
though,
because
I've
had
this
experience,
it
is
not
that
easy
to
reverse
a
reclassification
of
a
property
with
Cook
County
Assessor.
So
so,
if
if
this
property
is
reclassified
as
the
commercial
use
or
business
use
and
taxed
accordingly,
at
25
percent
of
its
assessed
value
and
etc,
then
people
come
to
rely
on
that
income,
the
school
districts,
etc
and,
and
someone
buying
a
home
has
to
really
bend
over
backwards
to
have
the
the
County
Assessor
reclassify
the
property,
just
as
a
point
of
information.
Okay,.
G
As
you
know,
a
special
use
and,
to
the
extent
that
that
the
the
challenge
or
whatever
would
need
to
be
done
to
assist
in
reclassifying
that
if
the
new
owners
want
that
and
this
border
through
the
city
of
Evanston,
wants
it
to
be
reclassified,
Richard
is
fully
prepared
to
cooperate
in
any
way
to
make
sure
that
that
happens.
May.
E
I
pose
a
question:
can
you
clarify
what
precipitated
the
request
for
this
special
use?
Now
you
stated
that
this
business
has
been
operating
there
for
many
years,
first,
the
the
first
residents
and
then
the
second
one
was
added
later.
So
what
is
the
precipitating
event
for
this
I
think.
G
E
For
how
many
years
then,
do
we
have
a
tax
attorney
that
was
assisting
of
instant
clients
in
you
know,
appealing
their
property
taxes,
which
you
know
appropriate
to
do
so
understood,
but
we
have
a
tax
attorney
that
was
I
believe
illegally
operating
his
businesses
out
of
residential
structures.
I
find
ironic
and
it's
coming
before
our
attention,
because
it
was,
you
know,
flagged.
As
you
know,
you
know
flag
to
city
staff,
so
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
comment
on
any
of
that,
but
I
find
it.
G
It
was
you
know,
his
business
grew
not
by
leaps
and
Browns,
but
it
was
gradual
and
it
began
as
a
home
business,
and
he
recognizes
that
that
he
should
have
taken
steps
earlier
to
seek
a
special
use
permit
and
to
get
this
reclassified.
He
recognizes
that
now
and
he
understands
that
that
he's
got
to
do
whatever
is
necessary
in
order
to
make
amends
for
that.
So.
E
A
F
G
G
Byproducts
eat
they
contribute
to
Evanston's
economy
and
where
those
two
buildings
are
located.
I
think
it
really
the
question
on
the
table
because
he's
going
to
satisfy
that
requirement
with
respect
to
the
reclassification
notifying
the
Assessor,
paying
whatever
needs
to
be
paid
in
the
way
of
back
taxes.
In
order
to
stay
in
that
location,
he
dearly
loves
being
a
resident
of
Evanston
and
operating
his
law
practice
in
those
buildings
in
Evanston.
G
It's
a
one
of
the
few
practices
where
you
can
still
have
house
calls
and
he's
prepared
to
do
that
and
with
employees
some
already
work
remotely
and
in
2020.
The
idea
of
remote
work
is
becoming
more
common
and
he's
prepared
to
do
that.
If
there
are
employees,
some
employees
do
have
illnesses
and
others,
so
at
least
four
of
them
right
now
work
remotely.
G
We
think
that
that
if-
and
you
all
know
better
than
I
do
that,
if
you
do
the
lift
outside
and
other
kinds
of
external
modifications,
it
probably
would
require
the
Historic
Preservation
Commission
to
sign
off
on
it.
But
if
that's
what
this
board
decides
to
be
necessary
in
order
for
mr.
Shapiro
to
continue
to
have
his
law
practices
he's
prepared
to
make
the
kinds
of
changes
that
are
set
forth
in
the
site
plan
that
his
architect
Eliot
dudnikov
air,
to
put
a
lift
increase
the
size
of
the
landing.
G
There's
a
South
portico,
if
you
will,
with
an
entrance,
widen
the
sidewalk
and
make
the
changes
to
the
interior
of
that
office
space
there
so
that
that
portion
is
handicap
accessible.
That's
probably
going
to
cost
another
75
to
100
thousand
dollars,
so
in
total,
mr.
Shapiro
is
prepared
to
invest
approximately
$300,000
in
order
to
be
able
to
to
continue
his
practice
there,
sir.
A
G
Every
day,
there's
probably
another
ten
or
so
who
may
choose
to
work
remotely
one
or
two
times
a
week.
So
in
our
law
practice
we
found
that
to
be
the
case,
particularly
with
Millennials
and
others.
They
do
like
working
remotely,
and
mr.
Shapiro
has
recognized
that
so
the
peak
that
would
be
in
the
each
of
the
two
buildings
at
any
one
time
would
be
22
people
in
each.
G
That's
right:
okay,
that's
why
dapper
I
think
one
of
their
conditions
was
that
there'd
be
no
more
than
45
and
that's
perfectly
all
of
the
dapper
conditions.
Mr.
Shapiro
is
prepared
to
to
accept
the
other
thing
that
we
did
was
to
check
with
neighbors
and
and
the
condominium
board
obviously
sent
in
and
mr.
Shapiro
talked
to
others
and
his
neighbors,
the
people
that
he
spoke
with
on
Glenwood,
as
well
as
the
condominium
association.
None
of
them
object
to
a
special
use
because
of
mr.
G
E
B
E
B
The
the
dabber
recommendation
that
is
based
more
on
each
individual
dapper
members
professional
opinion.
So
if
you're
a
traffic
engineer,
you're
looking
at
it
from
a
traffic
perspective,
so
with
those
different
perspectives,
that's
what
led
to
the
dabber
recommendation
for
approval.
The
Planning
and
Zoning
staffs
recommendation
for
denial
is
strongly
based
on
two
things:
one
being
the
lack
of
accessibility
and
what
precedent
that
would
set
and
then
the
other
being
the
potential
precedent
that
could
be
set
by
allowing
moderate
to
large
scale
office
use
in
a
residential
area.
F
Well,
I
think
also-
and
this
was
not
necessarily
brought
up-
I
think
it
was
in
one
of
the
standards
discussed
in
the
dabber
or
staff
notes-
is
the
fact
that,
even
though
mr.
Shapiro
is
leasing
a
number
of
parking
spaces,
nobody
drives
down
Chicago
Avenue
at
five
o'clock
in
the
evening
and
doesn't
sit
there
in
a
long
line-
traffic
quiet
after
traffic
right
after
traffic
right.
So
it
is,
you
know,
27
or
so.
F
Cars
are
contributing
to
that,
and
you
know,
and
and
typically
in
you
know,
paralegals
will
keep
pretty
regular
hours
because
they're
the
ones
who
are
compiling
all
of
those
files
that
are
coming
that
ultimately
mr.
Shapiro
will
take
to
the
assessor's
office
to
make
his
Appeals.
So
so.
I
think
that
that
has
a
negative
impact
on
neighbor.
G
I
could
just
clarify
one
thing:
there's
only
11
spots
behind
there's
the
couple
in
front.
Most
of
them
are
at
the
Holiday
Inn,
which
is
a
couple
of
blocks
north.
So
it's
really
not
in
the
same
location.
There's
11
parking
spots
and
I
do
believe
people
coming
or
going
at
different
parts
of
the
day
in
more
than
half
of
the
employees,
I'm,
not
aware
of
any
traffic
study.
That
would,
when
you
consider
the
other
commercial
uses
that
are
on
the
west
side
of
the
street
and
on
the
south,
half
of
the
Chicago.
F
G
Is
a
major
thoroughfare?
There's
no
doubt
about
that
and
that
frankly,
I
think
is
one
reason
why,
when
you
look
at
it
it
those
that
particular
spot
is
owned,
residential,
but
everything
around
it.
Excuse
me
the
parking
lot
to
the
north
to
the
west
side
of
the
street
to
a
little
bit
south
is
commercial.
So
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
it's
going
to
diminish
the
property
values,
that
was
one
of
the
points
that
was
raised.
G
We
presented,
we
did
a
look
at
Zillow
and
redfin
just
to
see
what
what
the
valuations
have
been
for
properties
on
Glenwood
or
on
Hinman,
which
is
actually
behind
the
alley.
It's
on
the
other
side
of
the
alley,
and
if
you
look
at
and
you
see
that
and
there
there
really
hasn't
been
any
apparent
diminution
in
value,
at
least
according
to
those
two
over
the
last
five
years,
which
is
the
time
when
he
acquired
the
Glenwood
address
and
began
to
operate.
There
miss
class
mentioned
accessibility,
as
I
said.
G
We
we
just
politely
disagreed
about
whether
it
was
necessary,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
he's
prepared
to
make
the
necessary
investment
to
make
both
well
make
the
the
1327
building
accessible.
So
if
there
are
any
clients
with
accessibility
issues
or
employees,
there
will
be
a
space
for
the
employees
to
work
in
the
South
portico,
and
there
will
also
be
an
office
area
in
a
reception
area
for
any
client
to
come
in.
The
sidewalk
will
be
widened
to
accommodate
the
parking
spot
in
front
for
vans
to
be
able
to
come
so
it'll.
G
Be
there
honestly,
it's
it's
an
investment
for
the
period
of
time
that
mr.
Shapiro
is
going
to
be
there.
So
it
may
not.
You
know.
Whenever
he
decides
to
retire
or
to
sell
those
buildings,
then
they
in
his
mind,
they're
gonna,
revert
to
residential
use,
but
he's
prepared
to
do
that
in
order
to
be
able
to
remain
in
Evanston
and
to
continue
a
practice
which,
as
as
the
dapper
folks,
recognized,
really
doesn't
have
from
the
exterior
any
intense
use
or
any
incompatibility
really
with
the
area
that
surrounds
the
the
two
structures.
So.
I
That's
the
question
sure,
and
perhaps
this
for
you
Melissa-
you
described
how
the
business
grew
steadily
over
time,
but
I'm
trying
to
understand
what
is
the
criteria
that
changes
the
permissibility
from
being
acceptable
to
have
a
home
business
to
one?
That
then
requires
a
special
use
for
what
he's
doing
now.
G
G
G
E
H
G
G
E
G
E
G
G
But
I
don't
think
any
any
residents
in
that
immediate
area.
I,
don't
know
the
answer,
but
I
would
a
little
surprised
if
there
were
residents.
In
fact,
I
would
be
very
surprised
because
he
did
canvass
the
residents
on
Greenwood
and
then
on
Hinman
and
didn't
find
anybody
who
needed
a
parking
spot.
So
people
in
the
immediate
vicinity
of
where
he
lives,
don't
need
parking
spots
and
aren't
are
foregoing
their
own
parking
in
order
to
accommodate
Richard.
Thank.
E
G
F
Have
a
question
for
you:
Melissa
if
this
special
use
were
to
be
approved
with
the
conditions
that
modifications
quite
a
number
of
modifications,
be
made
to
accommodate
accessibility
in
one
of
the
units
that
would
significantly
alter
the
appearance
of
the
structure
and
I
that
might
also
alter
the
perception
of
the
neighbors
with
regard
to
their
acquiescing
to
this
special
use.
Would
this
have
to
be
re
noticed
to
residents
if
there
was
going
to
be
that
that
kind
of
modification
made
to
these?
B
Would
not
require
we
noticing,
but
it
would
require
preservation.
Review
I
would
need
to
check
with
our
law
department,
to
see
what
the
best
plan
would
be.
But
what
I
anticipate
is
that,
if
that
is
a
condition
that
the
case
then
proceeds
to
the
Preservation
Commission
before
it
goes
on
the
City
Council
for
the
special
use
to
be
determined
so
that
there
is
a
full
package.
H
G
G
G
G
I
guess
one
last
point:
I
would
make
and
then
and
more
than
willing
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
I
think
the
staff,
at
least
in
its
report
on
the
question
of
traffic
congestion,
did
recognize
that
these
residences,
these
the
officers,
did
not
contribute
to
any
undue
congestion
in
the
area,
so
I
think
it.
At
least
in
that
point
we
may
not
have
agreed
on
it
and
all.
I
J
C
J
Very
little
activity
going
on
there,
also
richard
asking
for
a
limited
amount
of
time
put
that
into
perspective.
Quite
frankly,
Richard's
68
years
old,
not
in
good
health.
He
just
doesn't
want
to
rock
the
boat
he's
got
he's
got
he's
very
dedicated
to
his
employees.
He's
offers
high
quality
jobs
with
benefits
long
term
employees
he's
had
many
employees
that
have
worked
for
him
for
quite
a
long
time.
He
hires
guys
he
went
to
high
school
and
grammar
school
with
he's
a
he's,
a
loyal
guy
and
he
just
doesn't.
J
J
He
can
just
walk
out
his
back
door
to
his
office
and
just
the
setup
that
he's
got
is
incredibly
perfect
for
him
he's
also
a
little
bit
eccentric
and
set
in
his
ways,
and
so
I
think
that
if
you
there's
any
way
that
you
could
make
a
an
accommodation,
for
you
know
for
the
duration
of
when
he's
running
his
business
I
think
it
would
be
as
his
business
as
an
asset
to
the
neighborhood
and
to
Evanston.
He'd
imply
a
he
creates
good
jobs.
I
think
if
he
were
to
city
were
to
shut
him
down.
J
He
probably
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
he
just
sell
his
business
and
it
would
go
to
a
firm
in
Chicago
if
they
just
begin
another
large
tax
appeal
business.
For
some
reason,
he's
he's
decided
that
he
just
and
this
this
business
has
gone
grown
organically
from
just
operating
out
of
his
house
and
then
it
just
he's
been
successful
and
but
yeah
also.
My
office
is
right
across
the
street
from
him
at
1326.
J
Cargo
Avenue,
so
I
can
give
witness
to
the
fact
that
there's
very
very
little
coming
going
quite
frankly,
I
was
shocked
to
find
out.
He
had
that
many
employees
working
for
him
and
you
asked
about
the
the
parking
yet.
A
lot
of
the
parking
is
on
Hinman
Avenue.
Those
houses
on
him,
Avenue
have
a
lot
of
frontage
and,
and
a
number
and
I
know
there's
one
that
has
him
like
no
garage
back
there,
just
a
big,
gravel
lot
and
I
think
that's
probably
where
he
has
like
11
spaces
all
lined
up.
J
J
But
ordinarily
I
have
an
extra
spot
because
I
have
tenants
that
find
out
it's
easier
to
they'd,
rather
save
$75
a
month
and
park
in
the
street,
because
street
parking
is
okay,
especially
if
you're
a
resident
sticker,
so
I
I
I,
admit
this
I'm
in
the
real-estate
business.
This
is
a
little
bit
of
an
unusual
request,
but
I
think
this
is.
This
is
worth
making
exception
for
for
a
limited,
a
limited
amount
of
time.
We
don't
know
how
limited
it
is,
but
it's
it's
limited.
I.
J
I'm
I'm
aware
of
the
block
of
the
500
block
of
Greenwood
on
one
side
of
the
street.
It's
to
our
parking
unless
you
have
resin
sticker
because
they
don't
want
people
part
and
then
on
the
on
the
west
side
of
of
Greenwood.
There.
You
can
park
for
a
long
period
of
time,
but
the
city
has
made
it
yeah
put
up
deterrents
so
that
people
don't
park
there
and.
F
A
K
Honest
so
my
name
is
Tom
Palomas
I'm,
the
president
of
the
evan
edmonton
condominium
association.
We
are
that
20
unit
condo,
that's
right
behind
I,
hope
and
we're
adjacent
to
our
property
as
adjacent
to
the
Phi,
the
1327
property.
So
it's
directly
north
of
us
and
then
that
puts
us
very
close
to
the
property
on
Greenwood
like
within
a
hundred
feet
or
something
so
I'm
gonna
make
some
I
had
actually
sent
in
some
material
I
think
it
feels
like
it
was
shared
because
it
sounds
like
you
have
read
that
material.
K
So
tell
me
if
it
gets
boring
here.
I'm
cover
some
of
the
same
thing,
so
we
did
open
occupancy
in
97
and
we
we
were
fully
occupied
by
owners
by
the
mid-90s,
and
it
was
only
a
few
months
later
that
Richard
acquired
a
property,
but
we've
been
neighbors
with
Richard,
and
you
know
his
business
for
20
years
now,
20
plus
years.
K
A
couple
of
things
first
I
want
to
I
want
to
thank
the
you
thank
the
city
of
Evanston
for
the
work
that
the
various
departments
have
done
and
trying
to
maintain
the
business.
The
the
codes
and
everything
for
buildings,
and
specifically
for
Melissa
and
for
Kate,
because
we
heard
about
this
and
we
didn't
who
had
no
idea
what
was
going
on
and
so
we
reached
out
I
reached
out
to
the
Zoning
Board
and
both
Melissa
and
Cade
were
very
capable
and
providing
must
material.
H
K
K
Our
owners
were
a
little
concerned,
I
explained
to
them.
In
the
board
meeting
we
had
in
early
January
that
this
was
about.
We
were
about
to
have
a
meeting
in
that
we
were
likely
to
attend
and
we
had
collected
information
from
the
owners
and
questions,
and
one
of
the
questions
they
had
was
what
could
this
do
to
our
property
values?
So
we
surveyed
several
realtors
in
the
area
familiar
with
the
building
familiar
with
the
area,
and
they
universally
said
that
there
would.
K
K
We
have
our
concern
about
a
DA.
It
seems
like
the
compliance
is
a
little
limited,
but
Richard
does
offer
options
for
conducting
business
where
a
customer
is
and
I
have
been
to
us
office
several
times
and
that's
not.
It
hasn't
been
an
issue
for
me.
We
were
able
to
do
our
business
that
way.
If
anybody
who
was
handicapped
need
to
do
business,
he
does
accommodate
that.
So
we
see
that
as
a
plus,
we
talked
about.
You
already
talked
about
the
taxes
and
reconciliation,
but
that
was
a
question
that
we
had.
K
K
It
was
in
the
November
meeting
in
last
year
and
the
note
said
the
lawyers,
the
attorney
legal
counsel,
but
that
interests
us
as
well
I,
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
would
help
or
hurt
us,
but
it
sounds
interesting
on
a
negative
note:
we've
had
very
few
incidents
of
we
had
no
significant
issues
at
all.
With
Richard
20
years,
20-plus
years
last
July
we
had
someone
Park
in
one
of
our
parking
spaces.
K
Our
parking
space
is
behind
the
condo
are
owned,
and
so
we
have
assigned
spaces,
and
so
one
of
our
owners
came
came
home
and
had
a
car
was
there
determined
that
it
was
one
of
Richard's
employees
contacted
me,
I
said
reach
out
to
Richard,
see
if
you
can
get
your
satisfaction,
they'll
take
care
of
it,
and
so
she
reached
out
to
Richard
and
he
took
care
of
it
immediately.
They
happened
again
the
next
day,
the
process
we
went
through
the
same
process
and
the
process
has
worked
so
20-plus
years
a
couple
of
times.
K
K
Those
are
the
comments
that
I
have
I
think
in
in
closing
the
the
recommendation
that
we
would
have
as
a
block
of
20
owners
that
have
been
associated
with
you
know
the
business
there.
For
you
know
many
years
we
do
view
Richard
and
his
practice
as
as
a
good
neighbor
to
recognize
that
it's
a
lot
of
activity
there,
but
it's
not
really
that
visible
activity
and
it's
not
intrusive,
it
doesn't
get
in
the
way
of
anything.
K
E
E
And
so
we've
heard
some
about
the
potential
physical
changes
that
may
be
done
on
the
exterior
of
the
building.
In
order
to
bring
you
know
the
building
up
to
a
DA
compliance
which
would
change
sort
of
how
would
change
the
over
residential,
the
overall
residential
appearance
of
the
building?
Do
you
think
that
would
impact
how
the
owners
of
the
condominium
building
would
would
view
this
proposal?
I.
K
K
We
may
lose
a
bush.
Actually
there
may
be
a
Richards,
but
someone
may
lose
a
bush
in
the
deal
other
than
that.
I.
Don't
anticipate.
That
being
is
we
have
several
people
in
our
in
our
association
that
are
handicapped.
We
have
so
we're
familiar
with.
You
know
what
it
takes
to
accommodate
and
and
so
I
don't
think.
That's
going
to
be
an
issue
yeah
thanks
for
asking.
A
B
We
do
I
mean
it's
up
to
the
applicant
I
mean
if
you
guys
would
like
the
board
to
close
testimony
and
deliberate
and
make
a
recommendation.
They
are
the
recommending
body.
So
it
is
not
your
final
decision
tonight
or
if
you
are
more
comfortable,
requesting
a
continuance
so
that
Richard
can
be
at
the
next
hearing.
I.
G
Guess
I
asked
the
board
members.
If
the
board
members
would
like
to
hear
from
mr.
Shapiro
himself,
then
you
know
we'd
be
happy
to
continue
to
have
him
come,
but
if
they
believe
they've
got
enough
information
now,
then
we
could
go
ahead
and
because
you
know
speaking
optimistically,
if
we
do
need
to
then
go
to
the
Historic
Preservation
Commission
to
make
sure
that
they
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
lift.
We'd
want
to
start
to
do
that
as
soon
as
we
could
could.
A
F
If
I
were
the
applicant
I
would
rather
the
process
move
along,
but
because
we're
a
recommending
body
but
I
once
again.
If
the
board
here
believes
that
it
is
in
our
better
interest
to
here
from
Richard
and
to
get
more
information
on
how
the
ADA
accessibility
would
be
achieved
with
designs,
etc,
then
we
can
continue
in
here
more
at
the
next
meeting.
D
Personally,
I
would
like
to
hear
from
mr.
Shapiro,
because
I
think
that
sticker
also
will
ask
mainly
the
questions
that
are
with
the
past
of
these
buildings
and
why
now
so?
This
will
be
I
believe
the
major
question
from
the
City
Council.
It's
not
a
zoning
question
and
I
understand
that.
But
I
would
like
to
hear
firsthand
how
things
developed
in
time
and
now
we're
facing
it's
a
serious
question
with
changing
the
yields
of
the
place,
so
my
preference
would
be
to
hear
from
mr.
Shapiro
first
second
I.
E
F
F
G
The
other
thing,
I
would
say
too,
is
that
mr.
Dodd
Nick
Elliot
does
Nick
who's
the
architect.
Who
was
he
did
site
plans
for
the
accessibility
piece
which
I
think
are
in
your
packets,
but
to
the
extent
that
the
board
would
have
questions
for
him
about
how
all
that
would
work.
Hopefully
he
was
unable
to
come
tonight
to,
but
hopefully
we
could
get
him
to
the
next
meeting
as
well.
A
G
You
know,
as
I
say
he
is
assuming
that
the
spinal
stenosis
is
abated
and
he's
able
to
come.
He
certainly
would
because
I
think
he
would
also
tell
you
that
before
online,
the
telephone
was
the
way
that
most
people
were
able
to
contact
him
and
because,
as
you
heard
from
his
neighbors,
there
really
haven't
been
any
incidents
of
of
congestion
or
crowding
or
anything
else.
But
but
you
know,
he's
certainly
prepared
to
come
and
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
all
may
have
personally
and.