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A
B
C
B
B
Rules
that
govern
our
proceedings,
most
importantly,
only
one
person
speaks
at
a
time
so
that
all
testimony
may
be
accurately
reported.
Anyone
who
wishes
to
address
the
board
regarding
any
matter
on
the
agenda
will
have
the
opportunity
to
do
so
at
the
appropriate
time.
Our
procedure
is
to
hear
from
the
staff
on
the
documents
on
file
and
then
receive
testimony
and
other
evidence
from
the
applicant
or
appellant
next.
B
B
Knowledge
when
you
address
the
board,
please
state
your
name
and
address
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sign
in
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provided
sheet.
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meetings,
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All
proceedings
are
subject
to
broadcast
at
a
later
date.
Any
men
are
not
concluded
at
tonight's
hearing.
B
We
continue
to
our
next
regularly
scheduled
meeting
I,
don't
have
an
agenda,
so
there
are
two
three
four
items
on
the
agenda
tonight
we
have
two
old
business
and
two
new
business
is
413
group
here,
although
you
don't
have
to
be
1943
Sherman,
you
are
here,
26,
26
Reese.
You
are
here
and
1919
dempster
to
my
dear
brother
reasons.
Okay,.
E
B
B
B
E
B
H
B
I
Has
requested
a
continuance,
the
property
owner
is
not
able
to
attend
tonight.
I
will
let
the
in
defense
attorney
bite
a
little
bit
more
detail.
If
that
is
still
the
case,
then
this
recommendation
and
that
design
work
continue
with
the
case
tonight
and
move
forward
with
deliberations
so
that
the
case
can
move
forward.
The
Zoning
Board
is
the
recommending
body,
so
it
will
not
be
a
final
determination
tonight,
but
staff
feels
that.
J
G
B
K
Viewing
which
you
were
asking
for
my
client
felt
it
necessary
to
bring
the
architect
down,
because
the
architect
has
the
technical
knowledge,
the
architects,
one
of
the
things
you
requested
was
a
PDF
of
the
plans.
The
architect
needs
to
provide
that
the
architect
was
not
available
tonight
and
was
unable
to
I've,
been
speaking
with
his
cloths
and
miss
Mason
cup
since
Thursday
of
last
week,
informing
them
and
keeping
them
up
to
date
as
to
what
we
were
doing
we're
trying
to
get
the
architect
in
here.
K
So
you
can
ask
all
the
questions
regarding
tithing
regarding
construction
timeline,
any
other
issues
that
you
have
regarding
this
application.
I
will
reiterate
that
we
are
trying
to
bring
this
property
legal,
we're
trying
to
turn
this
into
a
free
flat,
which
is
a
matter
of
right
and
we're
actually
going
to
lower
the
occupancy
limits
in
this
house
from
what
it
currently
is.
So
what
we
want
is
just
the
opportunity
to
bring
the
architect
in
here
and
have
you
talk
to
him?
I
think.
L
B
A
K
M
Conversely,
if
we
don't,
if
I
understand
correctly
one,
our
options
is
to
not
hear
the
case
tonight,
but
instead
wait
until
as
to
continue
it
again
until
it
sounds
like
the
owner
or
representative
the
owner
and
the
architect
can
appear
before
us
at
the
next
meeting.
Presumably,
which
is
what
you
would
report
at
the
court
case,
I'd
miss
Friday,
threatened.
G
G
Option
to
continue
is
that
it's
not
in
the
zoning
board
or
the
city's
best
interest
for
this
case
to
continue
the
owners
in
a
proper
units
non-compliant
and
it
had
a
month
notice
to
be
prepared
to
appear
here
and
he's
not,
and
so,
in
my
view,
I
think
we
want
to
make
whatever
decision
recommending
the
citizen
we
can
based
on
the
record
in
front
of
us,
rather
than
stretch
it
up
for
another
month
and
perhaps
at
the
owner
again
not
show
up
continue
to
be
non-compliant.
I.
B
C
My
hands,
unfortunately
I,
don't
have
an
answer.
I
have
a
question
for
staff.
Is
there
no
way
to
enforce
that
they
move
forward
with
definite
plans?
Is
that
not
what
we're
doing
if
we,
if
we
approve
this
or
we
sit,
deny
this
and
send
it
on?
Well,
they
have
to
have
plans
to
come
to
the
City.
Council
I
mean
what
happens
next.
This
is.
I
G
A
letter
yeah.
What
we
had
requested,
though,
was
that
there
be
a
plan
which
was
phased.
We
discussed
that
at
the
last
meeting.
You
remember
of
course,
yes,
so
we
had
asked
for
a
time
land
for
when
the
construction
would
be
phased
and
completed.
That's
what
we're
talking
about
not,
but
not
the
maximum
amount
of
time
under
a
permit
to
construct.
B
E
B
B
A
August
28th
yeah.
It
seems
to
me
that
the
logical
thing
to
do
in
this
case
is
to
recommend
that
City
Council
deny
this
unless
they
are
provided
adequate
documentation
on
cost
materials,
timing
etc
from
the
architect
and
perhaps
the
owner
personally,
and
that
that
would
be
our
but
City
Council
that
they
need
I.
G
M
Agree
with
that,
is
there
a
way
it's
hard
for
me
to
determine
whether
to
to
approve
or
deny
based
on
the
information
that
we
had,
can
we
send
it
forward
to
City
Council
with
neither
an
approval
or
a
denial,
but
a
recognition
that
the
board
has
not
been
presented?
The
additional
information
that
we
had
requested
I
would.
G
N
G
And
frankly,
even
though
we're
not
a
judicial
body
with
the
power
of
contempt,
it's
contemptible
that
they've
had
a
month
to
submit
it
in
heaven
and
whether
or
not
the
owner
is
here
with
his
architect
and
a
month
to
prepare
what
they
knew
was
being
asked
for,
and
so,
in
my
view,
I
think
it's
proper
to
simply
recommend
that
we
deny,
because
the
evidence
that
we
requested
to
support
the
application
hasn't
been
submitted.
I
agree.
C
With
you,
Scott
and
I
just
think
that,
under
without
the
extra
information
we
can't
even
make
further
deliberations,
because
we
got
to
the
point
where
we
got
to
with
a
meaning,
and
the
only
thing
we
can
say
is
that
without
any
information,
all
we
can
recommend
is
denial.
So
I
100%
agree
with
you.
So.
M
E
B
E
H
A
very
completely
without
because
I
went
to
the
doctor,
once
I
went
through
the
materials,
especially
and
I
have
still
I
was
not
happy
with
the
suggestions
because
they
were
all
over
the
place,
different
materials,
not
matching.
You
can
I,
don't
think
that
this
would
end
up
a
good
result
so,
ideally
want
to
see.
You
know
I
a
little
bit
go
over
the
architecture,
no
matter
it's
not
fully
in
our
discussions,
but
we
have
to
be
sure
that
just
going
there
put
the
project
together
with
all
designing
things
that
we're
talking
about.
J
Agree
with
a
lot
of
my
colleagues
suggestions,
the
only
thing
I
disagree
on
is
a
time
frame.
When
you
get
a
permit,
you
have
a
year.
You
can
ring
you
that
comment.
We
can
not
hold
anybody
on
a
time
frame
that
we
would
like
them
to
finish
this
project.
A
Well,
you
have
265
days
to
start
the
project.
You
don't
have
a
timetable
for
completion,
correct
and
I
thought
that
was
that.
What
given
the
nature
of
the
concerns
in
this
case,
I
think
it
is
appropriate
for
City
Council
to
say
to
the
architect
of
the
builders
that
they
like
a
timetable
for
for
the
work
to
be
completed.
But.
J
G
G
The
in
my
view,
the
relief
that
the
applicant
is
seeking
from
this
board
allows
us
to
condition
our
approval
on
certain
criteria
and,
in
my
view,
a
committable
time
frame
is
more
important
from
the
standpoint
of
evidence
of
the
commitment
to
the
project
and
evidence
of
the
planning
toward
the
commitment
of
the
project
than
it
is
that
they
actually
finish
by
the
date.
Certain.
So,
in
my
view
where
we
were
presented
with
plans
that
the
neighbors
had
justifiable
concern
was
not
a
real
commitment
to
what
needed
to
be
done
and
the
plans
didn't
evidence.
G
J
J
B
B
B
B
B
B
Standard
has
been
met,
number
three,
the
alleged
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
is
peculiar
to
the
property.
If
I
remember
correctly,
this
is
a
landlocked
property
that
doesn't
have
any
access
to
any
any
parking
in
the
back
and
it
doesn't
have
any
other
reasonable
place
to
put
that
second
means
of
egress
for
a
for
the
units
on
the
second
floor,
so
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number.
D
E
B
There
are
actually
options
here
for
this
particular
owner,
and
it
may
have
been
here.
We
could
have
asked
them
about
this,
because
they
know
that
there
are
options
for
this
either
being
multifamily
or
a
rooming
house,
and
so
there
are
various
options
on
the
table
into
it.
Without
all
of
the
data
at
hand
is
hard
for
me
to
assess
if
this
is
a
particular
part,
ship
or
practical
difficulties,
so
that
standard
has
not
been
met.
Number
five.
B
The
purpose
of
the
variation
is
not
based
exclusively
upon
the
desire
to
extract
additional
and
from
the
property,
or
there
is
a
public
benefit.
I
do
believe
that
the
primary
goal
here
is
to
extract
additional
income,
given
that
it
is
a
fully
rentable
building.
There
is
certainly
public
benefit
to
taking
this
problem.
B
B
To
getting
this
taken
care
of
and
getting
this
into
being
a
code
compliant
building
and
a
zoning
compliant
building,
so
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
six,
the
alleged
difficulty
or
hardship
has
not
been
created
by
any
person
having
an
interest
in
the
property.
This
is
an
old
property
that
was
tightened
well.
I
can't
even
say
that
I
don't
know
when,
when
the
owner
bought
the
property,
because
we
haven't
heard
from
the
owner,
so
there's
data
missing
on
this.
So
in
that
case,
that
standard
has
not
been
met
and
number
seven.
B
A
Then
I
mention
I
motion
that,
in
the
case
of
19.3
Sherman
a
case
18
MJ
v,
2
0,
0,
7
3.
We
recommend
that
the
City
Council
deny
these
variances
subject
to
presentation
of
building
our
building.
Architects
plans,
the
elevations,
the
materials
that
will
be
used,
a
time
frame
for
completion
of
the
work
and
the
statement
from
the
owner
to
explain
how.
B
E
B
I
I
Letters
of
opposition
image
of
property,
an
aerial
view
of
property,
sony,
mavica
property
links
to
the
previous
toning
board,
packets
and
minutes
for
the
previous
two
pieces
on
this
property.
Deborah
meeting
minutes
excerpt
of
August
29th
2018,
as
well
as
six
additional
letters
of
opposition
that
were.
O
O
This
particular
project
you
all,
are
somewhat
familiar
with
since
it
was
before
here
in
January
tonight,
although
it
was
a
slightly
different
project
at
that
time.
This
proposal
is
resign
of
that
and
reflects
many
of
the
concerns
that
were
raised
previous
VBA
meeting,
as
well
as
some
of
the
comments
and
considerations
that
were
requested
by
some
of
the
neighbors.
O
The
proposal
you
have
before
you
went
through
Def
and
received
an
8
to
1
vote.
There
was
one
change
that
they
had
requested,
which
has
been
made,
which
was
moving
the
window,
light
Wells
away
from
the
Hartzell
Street
side,
so
they
were
not
as
close
to
the
sidewalk
and
were
a
little
further
back
in
the
yard.
O
Mr.
James
also
has
conducted
outreach
by
distributing
the
plans
for
this.
With
the
neighborhood
and
I
know,
there
were
some
letters
of
opposition
that
were
received
this
morning
according
to
miss
Platz.
What
we've
done
in
this
particular
project
is
look
at
the
fact
that
this
is
a
substandard
lot
in
the
city
of
Evanston,
it's
25
feet
wide.
It's
133
feet
deep.
O
O
What
has
been
done
in
this
particular
project
is
that
the
bulk
of
the
house
and
the
height
of
the
house
has
been
lessened
in
terms
of
the
actual
physical
height
of
the
property,
as
well
as
creating
our
gambrel
rulings
on
the
property,
so
it
feels
more
setback
from
the
property
that
it
actually
is.
The
house
actually
starts
leaning
back
from
the
property
line
on
Hartzell
Street
at
about
15
feet,
elevation,
so
really
removing
some
of
the
bolt
from
the
front
of
the
house.
O
The
house
was
also
short
ins,
so
there's
creating
more
green
space
in
the
backyard,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
side
yards
could
be
a
little
smaller
was
to
accommodate
that
that
feature
three
foot:
side,
yard,
interior,
I'm.
Sorry,
a
three
foot
interior
side,
yard
setback
is
by
common
in
neighborhood
like
this,
and
we
feel
it
is
an
acceptable
distance.
O
One
of
the
other
condition
are
one
of
the
other
concerns
was
the
two-car
garage
that
had
been
placed
on
the
property
cut
into
sight
lines
that
were
able
to
these
are
sight
line
for
the
alley
to
a
virtual
street,
because
we
know
the
city
likes
to
try
to
encourage
at
least
two
parking
spaces
per
property.
What
we
were
proposing
at
this
particular
time
is
a
1-1
car
garage
with
the
parking
pad
next
to
it.
That
gives
the
sight
line
that
still
allows
for
a
vehicle
to
be
parked
there,
removing
two
cars
straight
with
you.
O
This
particular
plan
also
helps
make
the
house
feel
more
compatible
with
the
neighborhood.
This
is
a
neighborhood
of
one
one
and
a
half
and
two-story
houses.
The
lower
building
height,
we
feel
helps
bring
the
mass
lower
on
the
building
making.
It
feel
more
like
some
of
the
other
structures
along
the
street
and
in
the
neighborhood.
O
The
one
car
garage
versus
the
two
car
garage
again
helps
create
that
visibility
and
by
having
the
projection
removed
from
the
Hartzell
Street
side
again
that
just
had
helps
lessen
the
impact
of
the
building
on
the
half
are
the
building.
On
the
neighborhood,
this
is
a
modest
home.
The
footprint
of
this
home
actually
is
smaller
than
my
two-bedroom
condo
in
South
Evanston.
O
So
it's
it's
not
a
large
house.
It's
a
two-bedroom
house
people
don't
build
two
bedroom
houses,
anymore,
everybody's
building,
a
three-bedroom
house.
So
we
feel
that
this
is
an
appropriate
home
for
this
neighborhood.
It
would
be
a
great
home
for
someone
who
was
starting
starting
out.
Someone
was
looking
to
downsize,
potentially
the
floor.
Plans
of
the
house,
like
I
said,
are
relatively
simple.
The
first
floor
is
a
living
room
and
a
dining
and
eat-in
kitchen
and
a
powder
room
in
a
stairwell.
The
second
floor
is
the
two
bedrooms.
O
G
Okay,
Matt,
there
were
two
significant
concerns.
There
many
concerns
raised
in
the
board
packet.
There
were
two
that
I
consider
to
be
more
significant
than
others
that
I'm
hoping
you
can
address.
One
is
the
problem
of
water
runoff
on
the
property
and
in
building
so
close
to
the
sidewalk
and
the
second.
The
bomb
was
contained
within
the
letter
from
2016
from
the
neighbor.
Who
is
a
licensed
engineer.
O
So
on
the
air
shall
dress
first,
the
issue
of
water
runoff.
Obviously,
the
lot
is
an
empty
lot
right
now,
which
has
not
been
maintained
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
It
is
merely
third,
by
building
something
on
that
on
that
property.
The
hope
is
that
we
can
actually
then
move
the
water
where
we
wanted
to
go.
O
One
of
the
ideas
that
was
suggestion
was
moving
it
underneath
the
deck
him
back
into
sort
of
a
slash
area
there,
so
that
it
would
be
contained
away
from
property
lines
away
from
the
sidewalk,
and
we
could
actually
do
something
with
it
at
that
at
that
level,
in
terms
of
damage
to
neighboring
structure,
obviously,
any
time
any
construction
occurs,
there's
always
a
possibility,
something
like
that
can
happen.
Our
goal,
obviously,
is
to
make
sure
that
doesn't
happen
and
to
to
make
sure
that
if
something
does
happen,
that
can
be
shown
to
be
our
responsibility.
G
O
Is
that
is
one
of
the
ideas
that's
been
discussed?
Obviously,
anything
that
needs
anything
will
be
done
will
be
included
done
with
the
direction
of
city
staff
and
we're
in
the
water
where
they
tell
us
appropriate.
The
goal
is
to
move
the
water
in
into
places
that
it
has
the
least
impact
on
anyone.
I.
B
Would
just
like
to
comment
on
city
engineering
is
quite
rigorous
in
water
management,
on
sites
for
new
construction,
and
so
I
think
that
this
will
be
handled.
That
issue
will
be
handled
by
city
staff
appropriately,
and
they
will
make
sure
that
the
structures
are
in
place
to
take
care
of
the
water.
As.
A
M
O
P
M
Other
question
is:
I
understand
that,
in
an
attempt
to
address
some
of
the
issues
around
the
sight
lines
from
the
alley
that
you've
moved
from
a
two-car
garage
to
a
one
car
garage
to
them,
an
open
parking
tag
and
I
also
understand
that
it's,
the
city's
preference
to
have
two
off
street
parking
spaces
supply
their
dwelling
unit
or
a
single-family
dwelling
unit.
Is
there?
Has
there
been
any
consideration
to
do
a
single-family
garage
and
no
additional
parking
pad
and
just
accommodate?
M
P
E
P
M
G
B
Got
that
going
for
them
I
just
think
it's
not
a
realistic
location,
somebody's
gonna
park
on
carts
on
walk
right
in
the
front
door,
so
I
think
just
having
another
car
that
sort
of
defeats
the
perfect
in
that
open
pad
defeats.
The
purpose
of
why
we
kind
of
why
we
said
a
one
car
garage
which
was
so
that
there
were
sight
lines
in
and
out
of
that
alley
and
so
having
a
car
parking
in
that
pad,
though
never
parking
in
that
pad
it
sort
of
defeats.
The
purpose
to
me.
G
G
A
E
A
Question
could
you
this
might
be
asking
too
much,
but
do
you
have
the
average
height
of
homes
in
that
area?
Do.
A
O
I
mean
I
would
just
say
this.
That
word
were
part
of
the
second
floor
on
this
particular
project
is
within
the
example,
so
it's
not
right.
Wolf's
wall
height,
so
in
order
to
make
a
livable
space
up
there,
but
there
has
to
be
a
certain
height
allowed.
But
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
lessen
the
impact
of
that
height
ice
by
stepping
it
back
from
the
property
on
the
one
side
and
it
stood
on
the
other.
B
E
B
P
M
O
M
O
Obviously,
as
everyone
on
the
board
knows
been,
one
change
necessary
can
be
highly
interpreted
by
different
people
different
ways.
We
feel
that
building
something
as
small
as
a
two-bedroom
house
that
is,
is
still
trying
to
adhere
to
a
number
of
the,
although
they
are
not
meeting
standards
for
setbacks,
at
least
the
the
character
of
the
setbacks
that
exist
in
the
neighborhood.
O
We
feel
that
that
is
in
keeping
with
the
minimal
change
necessary.
If
something
is
to
be
built
on
this
lot
and
both
we
emma
city
feel
that
something
should
be
built
on
this
lot.
It
has
to
be
a
modest
home
and
we
feel
it
a
two
bedroom
two
storey,
although
it's
not
a
full
two-story
going
straight
up,
is
the
minimal
change
necessary.
We
feel
that
we
are
trying
to
address
it
as
many
ways
as
we
can.
E
O
Think
I
think
building
a
smaller
house
than
this
makes
it
economically
infeasible
for
anybody
to
do
really
short
of
building
a
one-story
house
which,
because
of
the
small
footprint
like
I,
said
we
have
a
living
room
and
an
even
dining
room
and
we've
already
maxed
out
the
first
floor
really
to
try
to
fit
even
one
bedroom
into
that
space
makes
it
makes
it
almost
impossible
to
do,
and
no
one
builds
a
one-bedroom
home.
The.
M
Only
perhaps
Melissa
will
be
able
to
address
this.
The
only
part
that
well
one
issue
that
I'm
having
a
little
sticking
point
is
not
knowing
the
total
square
footage,
because
it
feels
a
little
disingenuous
to
me
to
be
able
to
represent
the
reductions
that
have
been
made
without
being
able
to
represent
the
the
total
square
footage,
because
I
would
certainly
think
mr.
James,
the
Builder
would
know
that
offhand,
and
so
that
feels
a
little
disingenuous
to
not
have
that
available.
I
understand
that
the
measurements
are
on
the
drawing,
but
I
mean.
Q
I
G
B
B
G
B
P
You
know
I
I,
don't
have
a
a
precise
sales
price.
You
know.
I
would
only
do
that
when
I'm
ready
to
write
list
it.
You
know,
if
you
look
at
sales
prices
for
homes
somewhere
in
the
$200
for
foot
range,
which
I
think
is
pretty
typical
in
construction.
You
know
you
can
calculate
that.
That
would
be.
You
know,
obviously
plus
lands.
B
B
P
B
E
B
B
B
L
L
L
E
S
S
Do
get
that
information
to
you
that
happens
every
time
it
rains
every
time
it
rains,
that's
the
amount
of
accumulation
and
yet
into
different
areas,
and
so
on
I
hear
water.
Runoff
is
going
to
be
an
easy
thing
to
take
care
of
its
kind
of
frustrating,
because
I
have
a
palace
being
built
3
feet
for
mine
and
my
my
runoff
for
my
gutters
and
downspouts.
What's
going
to
happen
there
this
this
is
just
incredible.
G
S
S
Jason
neighbor
yeah,
first
of
all,
January
16,
2018,
26,
26,
370,
majors,
only
relief
for
setbacks
and
building
live
coverage
to
get
struck.
The
two-story,
single-family
residence
and
detached
garage
in
the
r-1
single-family
residential
district
zda
is
final
court
decision
unanimously
denied
unanimous
okay
major
objections
for
building
a
26
26
reset
of
now.
The
zoning
variance
is
severely
by
violate
the
current
building
code
requirements
on
all
eight
sides
of
the
proposed
home
detached
garage
zoning
section.
S
G
S
The
very
solid
and
not
seventy
six
point:
seven
percent
on
the
sidewalk
lot
variance
and
I'm
the
setback
for
the
detached
garage.
That's
an
unheard-of
increase
of
93.4%.
One
of
the
things
I
want
to
highly
recommend
is
I
just
happened
to
get
another
email
from
Wayne
Clark.
He
came
in
last
month
and
he
was
the
one
who
contributed.
The
structural
engineering
report
I
have
a
resume
in
this
packet
of
mr.
Clark.
S
He
is
by
far
one
of
the
finest
structural
engineers
in
the
world
in
the
world,
not
Evanston,
not
a
city
of
Evanston
point
in
the
world.
If
you
look
at
his
background,
I
also
have
just
be
a
privately
held
a
review
by
him,
with
over
15
photos
of
my
basement
by
mr.
Clark
and
his
review
of
what
would
happen
if
a
structure
was
dug.
Now,
that's
moved
back
to
3
feet
as
before.
In
January,
it's
5
feet,
3
feet
from
my
Crocker
and
in
house
it's
almost
100
years
old.
It's
going
to
cause
major
damage.
S
Ok,
his
resume
is
included
in
that
packet
and
also
according
to
the
Cook
County
Assessor
2624
reset
was
built
in
1926
in.
According
to
the
original
plan,
survey
drawn
by
CH
Hawkins
in
July,
1925
property
sits
on
the
ground
at
measures
25
feet
wide
by
134
feet
and
84
inches
long
now,
what's
8.4
inches
long,
what's
frightening
about
that,
somehow
I've
lost
26
square
root
feet
on
three
different
surveys:
I've
had
done
from
1925,
1976,
1988
and
now
I'm.
S
Looking
at
a
sir,
where
I've
lost
some
property,
the
current
survey
used
for
description,
26:22
raised
26,
24
and
26
26,
so
the
properties
be
25
feet
wide
by
133
feet.
Deep.
This
told
us
the
30
325
square
feet
per
parcel.
The
properties
of
26:22
recent
26
24
reset
new
are
properties
that
are
considered
grandfather
non-conforming.
In
other
words,
these
structures
would
not
be
able
to
build,
be
built
that
they
had
to
follow
the
current
building
laws
and
zoning
laws.
According
to
the
Cook
County
Assessors
certified
description
of
26
2014
7
in
my
house.
S
The
square
footage
for
the
property
is
seven
hundred
and
sixty-two
square
feet
for
the
primary
residence
and
two
hundred
and
five
square
feet
for
the
attached
garage.
It
was
also
built
in
1926
the
combination
of
the
home
and
garage.
It's
a
adds
up
to
nine
hundred
and
sixty
seven
square
feet.
If
you
divide
965
by
3325,
you
get
a
percentage
of
the
building
land
ratio.
This
percentage
is
29%
29%.
This
is
slightly
under
the
30%
a
lot
sites
when
the
des
current
building
codes,
mr.
S
S
S
It's
interesting
working
out
these
numbers,
these
fall
state
written
statements
about
my
property
out
are
not
only
deceptive
and
disturb'.
They
also
make
my
home
look
larger
than
the
actual
twenty-nine
percent.
When
you
see
the
proposed
plans
of
building
land
race.
Forty-Two
point
five
percent.
Next
of
the
false
and
misleading
thirty
seven
point
nine
percent
of
my
home
it
would
he
make
the
make
you
think,
there's
not
a
big
difference.
That's
something!
That's
quite
concerned
what
I
have
done
as
I
take
it
his
drawings
and
somewhere
he's
depicted.
S
My
house
is
being
sold
big
and
that's
in
the
drawings
that
I've
submitted
to
the
house.
This
is
the
property
of
26:26
Reis
he's
showing
my
house
37.9%,
my
neighbors
next
to
me,
thirty
six
percent
and
what's
interesting,
is
my
garage.
He's
got
a
did
three
hundred
and
sixty-four
square
feet.
All
my
neighbors
know:
I
have
the
smallest
rats
in
the
neighborhood,
yet
my
very
kind,
great
neighbors
next
to
me
have
a
two-car
garage
that
have
a
variance
back
in
the
90s
and
it's
Solon
had
a
380,
so
I
really
liked
it
on
mr.
S
T
S
The
requested
variation
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
impact
on
the
use,
enjoyment
or
property
values
of
adjoining
touching
or
joined
at
any
point
line
or
boundary
properties.
His
answer
is:
the
life
is
a
corner
lot
in
only
one
property:
2624
Reese.
Is
it
joining
along
the
comm
unit
error
yard
to
the
south.
The
proposed
residence
has
an
interior
site
here
to
three
feet,
which
is
consistent
with
other
houses
in
the
area
which
is
natural.
The
26:24
raised
property
has
an
interior
side
light
of
less
than
three
feet.
S
Thus,
an
interior
society
are
the
three
feet:
will
not
create
an
impact.
Are
you
kidding
me
you're
serious,
that
he's
going
to
say
because
it's
three
feet
and
a
property?
That's
never
been
able
to
be
built
that
it
isn't
an
impact.
Anybody
who
knows:
geometry
or
Leonardo
da
Vinci.
You
may
inverter
the
Vitruvian
Man,
the
Truvia
man
is
a
geometric
drawing
of
a
man
and
if
you
look
at
proportion,
I'm
five
foot
nine,
this
length
right
now
is
five
foot
and
I
figured
a
finger,
and
so
far
this
structure
is
going
to
be.
S
For
my
house.
That's
how
far
five
foot
nine
that
is
unacceptable
and
you
talk
about
a
particular
hardship
for
this
man
for
mr.
James
I,
commend
him
for
trying
and
keep
him
going,
but
he
has
not
had
any
answers
at
all.
He
didn't
even
know
the
square
footage
of
his
house
and
the
last
time
believe
it
or
not.
Our
neighbors
got
a
chuckle
when
he
said,
let's
move
the
sidewalk
to
accommodate
my
house.
S
B
U
E
Q
Larval
Sta
26:27
Lincolnwood
tried
to
live
stuff
on
Hartzell
on
the
same
block.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
questions.
You
talked
about.
The
differentiation
of
lot
coverage.
Building
right
versus
the
actual
live
drainage
is
a
concern.
So
I
don't
see
this
house
I'm
on
the
other
side
of
the
block,
but
drainage
we've
had
flooding
and
I'm
concerned
about
that.
So
can
you
explain
that
to
me
the
pad
and
the
percentage
and
why
that's
not
a
concern
sure
Melissa
would.
I
So
the
zoning
ordinance
considers
open
American
spaces
to
be
counted
as
building
a
lot
coverage
with
the
theory
that
that's
someone
who
currently
builds
a
parking
pad
could
later
build
a
garage
on
it.
Now,
in
this
specific
case,
that
would
not
be
the
case
because
it
would
trigger
a
new
variant
variations,
but
that's
the
theory
behind
why
the
code
is
that
way
so
take
the
building
coverage
number
that
is
proposed
to
subtract
off
200
square
feet
and
that's
the
actual
structural
coverage
on
the
property.
I
Q
Okay-
and
you
were
saying
that
the
plan
is,
it
does
allow
them
a
pretty.
Mother
gets
yes,
okay,
alright,
my
other
concern
is
the
alley,
and
visibility
and
I
know
that
they
changed
the
two-car
garage
to
a
one
car
garage
and
with
the
parking
pad.
What
I'm
wondering
is.
Is
there
like
a
calculation
for
safety
on
site
lines?
Yes,.
B
E
E
B
Q
B
Q
B
N
Hello,
comma
Berkeley
at
26.2,
V,
so
I
am
to
watch
adjacent
countries.
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
also
good
success
that
I
have
water
in
our
backyard.
It's
very
small
and
locally
a
water
feature
and
time
range
as
upon
so
I
have
concerns
about
that.
I
also
have
concerns
about
the
existing
heritage
trees
there
on
a
Parkway
that
the
canopies
on
this
landscape
plan
are
cartilage
tone.
Okay,.
E
E
L
T
E
B
T
I
would
wonder
if
you
would
be
better
with
no
garage.
It
just
have
a
new
flat
pad
from
your
space
there,
so
you
can
have
a
better
line
of
sight
for
kids
that
dip
in
the
alley
and
the
cars
of
those
businesses
in
the
central
shoe
shops
are
constantly
in
and
out
of
that
alley
as
well.
Those
life
of
the
accidents
Beedrill
blind
spot,
it's
difficult
to
see
now,
as
it
works
with
large
they're.
Also
less
than
we
talked
about
this
body.
T
We
should
be
dumping
sites,
and
so
there
might
be
lead
cadmium
in
levels
there.
As
a
professor
Altschuler
question
for
medical
school
by
contagion,
conditions
are
difficult
to
diagnose,
have
long
term
complications
and,
if
neither
sometimes
being
reversal,
the
medical
sequelae,
and
that
we
need
to
look
at
first
something
has
a
basin.
It's
going
to
dig
up
my
liberate
heavy
metals
by
getting
the
groundwater.
I
do
we
choose
substantial
health
problems
later
on
that
a
long-lasting,
difficult,
expensive,
diagnose.
T
I
T
You
wonderboy
they
want
to
mention,
give
you
that
nothing
else
we
economically
feasable
was
not.
Is
ridiculous?
I've
lived
in
the
world
to
did
my
residency
training
there,
Charity
Hospital
now
look
at
this
month,
I
think
the
world
in
shotgun
house,
long,
skinny
and
narrow,
but
we'd
love
to
go
in
there.
As
an
in-law
house,
we
talked
to
the
building.
Mr.
T
James
a
bill
went
saying,
had
no
interest,
we
offered
to
buy
blood,
we
would
put
one
raised
off
the
ground,
not
touch
the
underlying
groundwater,
not
touch
the
underlying
whatever
is
buried
in
the
dirt
and
the
waitresses
on
the
watch
list.
So
this
would
be
a
great
location
for
a
stable
street
long,
narrow,
Norland,
shotgun
maturity
better.
T
B
I
B
G
N
U
B
U
O
U
Actually,
it's
a
half
block.
If
you
go
there,
you'll
see
it
I,
don't
know
why
they
did
it,
but
that's
neither
here
nor
there.
No
one
is
addressed
with
issue
of
this
house
and
I.
Think
that
that's
an
important
thing.
It
really
is
a
very
white
house
for
a
lot.
I
know
it's
got
the
same
kind
of
size
as
the
other
two
houses
that
are
there,
but
those
houses
from
our
pre-world
War,
two
we're
not
in
the
pre-world
War
to
Europe.
People
expect
different
things.
U
I
also
think
that
when
we
take
a
look
at
this
house
and
I'm
not
going
to
even
think
about
the
sight
lines
and
whether
this
are
they
at
the
house
is
going
to
want
my
sunlight.
But
if
you
park
a
big
SUV
that
parking
pad
it's,
it's
not
going
to
provide
the
kind
of
that
you're
looking
for.
We
have
a
lot
of
people
to
come
in
and
out
of
the
al
big
SUV,
which
is
what
a
lot
of
people
drive.
It's
gonna
block
whatever
it
is,
that's
there.
U
These
are
really
considerations
in
terms
of
safety,
there's
also
for
us,
at
least
for
my
wife,
really
crazy,
like
this.
What
are
the
accommodations
going
to
be
made
when
construction
occurs
at
this
narrow
street?
You
can't
park
on
both
sides
of
the
street
if
they
put
trucks
and
everything
on
a
hard
sole,
it
means
emergency
vehicles
will
not
be
able
to
pass
down
that
street.
That's
a
real
big
issue
in
my
mind
that
my
house
is
on
fire.
U
B
I
E
V
Name
is
Beth
Paradis
and
I
live
at
2907
parcel
street,
which
is
directly
diagonal
from
the
opposite
north
corner.
Up
from
the
lot
that's
been
proposed
to
be
built
on
and
I
just
want
to
piggyback
on
what
Mark
said
about
the
width
of
the
house,
I
really
want
to
voice.
My
concern
is
about
setting
a
precedent
for
belief
really
close
to
another
property
line.
V
We
can't
hear
business
dealings,
discussions
of
arguments,
personal
interactions,
some
of
which
are
not
appropriate
for
young,
my
young
child
to
be
listening
to
so
bad,
but
you
know-
and
it's
not
even
as
close
as
that
proposed
building,
so
I
just
feel
like
packing
us
all
in
is
infringing
upon
the
residents
who
exist
personal
space.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
S
Really
different,
if
you
asked
about
if
the
owner
the
Volt's
family,
that
owned
the
property
for
80
years
ever
approached
me
for
selling
the
property,
I
finally
found
the
card
from
John
Adamson.
Anybody
knows
John
the
guy
dude,
that's
been
in
the
real
estate.
Business
knows
he's
not
a
guy
to
turn
down
profit.
This
is
something
I
want
to
submit
to
the
born
here
in
States
on
May
12th.
This
is
right
before
they're
losing
this
property
to
tax
foreclosure,
dyrdek
horse
thing.
S
I
thought
you
might
like
to
know
before
it
is
officially
on
the
market
that
the
Welch
family
has
asked
me
to
market
26,
26
Reese.
We
will
be
listening
at
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
feel
free
to
contact
me.
If
you
have
any
questions
regarding
the
property
best
regards
John
Adamson
reason,
I
find
that
disturbing
is
not
only
the
job
that
I
saw
advertising
provider
press
to
John
when
he
is
at
Cypress
Realtors.
He
know
George
Cyrus
knew
back,
then
they
never
could
build
on
it
and
the
appraisal.
S
1987
also
verifies
from
extensive
research
by
time
report
check
a
realtor
that
you
cannot
build
on
that
property.
According
to
the
city.
Now
Melissa's
made
it
quite
evident
here
that
with
variances,
yes,
they
can
build,
but
I
thought
it
was
interesting.
Some
of
the
only
house
for
seven
years
they've
been
trying
to
take
this
house,
my
house
from
my
family,
my
grandmother
and
my
great
grandparents
would
sudden
want
to
give
up
a
property
that
if
they
could
develop
it,
that's
in
a
kadai
just
want
to
make
sure
you
saw
it.
Thank.
D
Good
evening,
I'm
Nancy
crane,
I
live
directly
diagonally
across
from
this
property.
I
also
would
be
impacted
by
water.
I
want
to
mention
that
I
already
get
water
in
my
basement,
and
I
really
am
against
breaking
so
many
variances
and
of
codes
that
we
have
here
in
Evanston
that
we
try
and
hold
those
to
be
what
we
all
have
to
live
by
only
built.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
F
B
F
You
know
we've
have
experience
in
this
regard.
I
also
want
to
say,
for
the
record:
I
want
to
thank
the
new
families
who
joined
us
in
opposition,
the
Burns
family,
Jeff
and
Tim
Garrity,
the
second
family
and
Kelly
Miller,
newer
families
who
have
moved
into
the
neighborhood
and
are
certainly
opposed
to
this
building.
F
I
want
to
say
before
my
remarks
about
the
property
is
that
I
have
been
a
builder
developer,
working
for
profit
in
Rome
at
Glencoe
and
Winnetka
and
I
have
to
say
that
its
kind
of
did
it's
disingenuous
to
say
that
you
don't
know
what
you're
gonna
sell
a
house
for
when
you
map
out
your
financial
plans.
You
know
what
you're
going
to
have
to
put
this
on
the
market
for
or
you're
not
going
to
get
money
from
a
bank.
F
You
just
don't
go
into
this
unseen,
so
I
really
don't
like
to
hear
builders
say:
I,
really,
don't
know
what
it's
gonna.
We
say
that
if
there's
a
downturn
in
the
market
we'll
all-
except
that,
if
this
is
o8
but
to
not
know
that
I
am
on
the
corner
and
three
of
our
houses
have
all
the
gracious
15
foot
setbacks.
So
to
kind
of
compare
this
to
Mister
Rogers
is
condo
and
realize
we're
building
up
three
and
a
half
feet
from
that
sidewalk.
F
Now
there
until
II
and
Nancy
and
I,
we
sit
back
and
that's
the
look
of
our
neighborhood
but
you're
building
a
50
foot,
long
wall,
three
and
a
half
feet
from
the
sidewalk
and
those
gorgeous
public
treats
I
love
them
too.
We've
lost
a
lot
of
them
to
storms
too
busy
and
disease,
and
they
can't
believe,
be
replaced,
and
we
can
say
Oh
after
the
fact
that
city
really
cares
about
them,
but
these
are
root
systems
that
are
going
to
have
a
basement
dug
into
so
I.
Want
you
to
really
consider
that
seriously.
F
These
neighbors
have
come
before
you
a
number
of
times,
because
they
care
a
great
deal
about
this
property
and
other
property
values.
I
want
to
say
that
I
believe
these
are
extreme
variances
I
can't
even
believe
that,
after
the
hearing
at
a
time
that
you
all
spend
the
last
time,
but
you
are
sitting
here
looking
at
a
building
lot
of
coverage
of
42.5,
where
the
minimum
is
30
that
you
have,
we
know
about
big
for
Steve's
home
and
that
he
still
wanted
to
build
two
feet
closer
and
that
we
would
allow
that.
F
Knowing
what
you've
heard
before
when
I
say
this
number
three
and
a
half
feet
from
the
sidewalk
for
50
feet,
when
it's
supposed
to
be
15
feet,
I,
consider
that
a
serious
variance,
an
8.5,
the
foot
side,
yard
setback,
where
it's
supposed
to
be
I,
consider
that
kind
of
major.
And
then
you
have
a
one-yard
side.
Setback
for
that
parking
pad
when
it's
supposed
to
be
15
required
on
the
side
will
meet
that
when
you
look
down
consul
Street,
when
you
look
down
Murray
Street,
but
now
we're
going
to
have
a
big
building
and
I.
F
Think
that
he's
asked
for
way
too
many
variances
and
you
may
want
to
put
a
house
on
the
property
rolls
you
may
want
to
trust
people
to
do
this
right,
but
I
believe
that
he's
asked
for
too
much
and
if
you
start
going
down
that
slippery
slope
so
standard
or
not
I
think
it's
gonna
definitely
be
a
substandard
home
and
I.
Don't
think
our
neighborhood
should
be
treated
like
that.
So
I
would
seriously
ask
you
to
again
reject
these
variances,
as
you
did
in
the
last
time.
R
R
R
B
M
It
says
the
gross
floor
area
for
the
second
floor
was
seven
hundred
and
seventy
one
and
a
half
square
feet
and
the
first
floor
was
eleven
sixty
five
in
the
packet
that
was
submitted
to
us
this
evening
as
exhibited
me
for
Exhibit
number
two,
so
the
information
that
was
shared
with
neighbors
the
first
floor
was
indicated
as
nine
hundred
and
two
and
a
half
feet
as
opposed
to
the
1165.
That's
in
our
packet
this
evening.
So
can
you
please
clarify
the
square
footage.
P
So
I
make
footage
outside
not
demographics
can
especially
the
outside.
The
PostScript
would
be
to
the
outside
wall.
The
outside,
well
I
believe,
as
the
city
does
in
this
computation
of
floor
area
ratio-
and
you
know
there
have
been
a
number
of
different
first
with
a
plant,
so
my
apologies
first
on
mislabelling
the
basement
and
kind
of
the
drawing
that
you
have.
That's
obviously
keen
and
half
feet
wide,
but
so
18.5
it
be
so
actually
the
gross
floor
area
of
the
first
floor
is
not
525
feet.
P
P
B
M
M
G
P
N
B
B
E
E
B
E
C
B
B
P
C
B
P
O
Right
just
dressing
a
few
of
the
one
major
concern
I
heard
raised
by
a
lot
of
neighbors
with
water.
Obviously,
when
we
build
on
this,
this
lot
of
variances
are
granted
that
approval
is
given
by
counsel.
We
will
address
water
on
our
lot.
Their
synchrony
water
issues
in
the
neighborhood
I
can't
believe
they
are
all
stemming
from
us,
but
we
will
do
what
we
can
to
keep
our
water
on
our
property,
which
is
required
by
City
Building
Code.
O
So
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
address
that
one
of
the
other
things
that
I
heard
was,
of
course,
something
that
zoning
board
hears
quite
a
bit,
which
is
variance,
is
asking
for
variances
variances
are
part
of
the
law.
They
are
allowed
to
be
given
by
the
state
by
the
city
and
by
this
board
by
capsule,
when
they
feel
that
they
are
appropriate.
O
If
the
city
has
determined
that
this
is
a
buildable
block
with
variances
in
the
episode
of
the
city
of
determine
this
is
a
buildable
one,
as
I
mentioned,
when
I
first
began,
if
we
were
to
adhere
strictly
to
all
the
setbacks,
there
is
no
building
by
right
on
this
property
just
because
of
the
fact
that
it
is
25
foot
wide
and
only
133
feet
deep
one
of
the
other
issues
that
came
up
a
couple
times,
most
erogenous
it--
lines.
Obviously.
O
O
I've
got
that's
kind
of
the
areas
that
I
want
to
cover
that
me
in
the
neighbor
comments
other
than
the
fact
there
were
some
comments
about.
You
know:
houses
built
free,
World,
War,
two.
Obviously
things
like
that
house
was
built
in
1926
we're
building
a
house
employing
18
people's
lifestyles
have
changed
over
the
past
hundred
years.
People
have
a
different
expectation
of
what
they
what
they
want
when
they
purchase
a
home
and
we're
trying
to
build
a
home
that
is
attractive
to
those
people.
O
With
that
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
the
standards
because
I
know
you
would
all
love
to
hear
me
do
that,
because
I
just
have
want
to
make
some
overarching
statements
about
the
standards
and
I'll
let
Mary
about
the
Chairman
go
through
the
various
standards.
Obviously
this
is
a
legal
Monica.
This
is
a
non-conforming
lot,
there's
nothing
that
can't
be
built
by
right
on
here.
That
obviously
creates
their
hardship
having
a
piece
of
property
that
you
cannot
build
anything
on
when
it's
identified
as
a
continual
piece
of
property
for
the
city
for
many
many
years.
E
O
Something
that
can
never
be
built
on
and
a
piece
of
property
that
no
one
wants
to
go
through
the
hassle
of
trying
to
get
all
the
variances
flooring.
We've
chosen
the
latter
option
a
couple
times
and
I'm
trying
to
make
the
property
work,
so
it
does
have
a
less
impact
on
the
neighborhood
feels
it
fits
in
more
as
well
as
making
an
attractive
to
potential
buyers.
O
This
is
a
further
step
beyond
where
we
were
last
time
in
trying
to
address
some
other
concerns
for
the
neighbors,
so
as
not
to
impact
their
their
use
their
enjoyment,
their
views.
Things
like
this,
the
gambrel
wolf
I,
think
there's
a
lot
for
doing
that
and
help
the
vault
from
the
property
and
making
it
fit
more
appropriately
with
the
neighborhood,
as
I
mentioned
before.
That
starts
about
15
feet
above
brain.
O
There
has
been.
You
know,
attention
to
trying
to
make
sure
we
have
as
little
impact
as
possible
on
heritage
trees
in
the
Parkway
and
to
plant
new
plantings,
where
appropriate,
in
order
to
try
to
again
help
deal
with
some
of
that
water,
as
well
as
make
this
place,
feel
more
more
green
and
appropriate,
and
we
believe
that
the
one
car
garage
isn't
that
isn't
able
to
address
the
sightlines
is
able
to
give
somebody
a
place
to
park
as
well
as
providing
that
parking
pad
for
a
second
car
to
be
parked
off
the
street
when
necessary.
O
O
E
E
S
It
a
little
disconcerting
that
somebody
mentioned
that
the
house
extending
12
feet
behind
my
existing
west
side
to
my
house
is
not
going
to
have
an
impact.
I
can't
imagine
myself
or
my
great
neighbors
right
to
the
South
ever
being
able
to
use
their
backyard
again
with
having
a
house
30
feet
tall,
looking
straight
down
into
my
backyard
12
feet
beyond
what
they're
allowed
to
do,
and
also
not
taking
in
the
non-conforming
non-heated
force,
which
is
fourteen
point
seven
feet
from
the
sidewalk
he's
now
trying
to
build
that.
S
It's
close
to
that
without
any
variance
being
mentioned
here
to
the
board.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
you
look
at
the
setback
and
the
grandfathered
section
of
my
house,
which
is
fourteen
point
seven
feet
from
the
sidewalk,
which
is
Grandfather
and
also
extending
12
feet
beyond
my
house
to
the
last
28
feet,
tall
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
use
the
bad
character,
but
almost
constantly
looking
out
to
see
who's
off.
Looking
down
into
my
yard
and
I'm
sure
that
my
neighbors,
the
Buckley,
just
feel
the
same
way.
Thank
you.
B
D
B
M
N
E
M
B
O
E
M
Certainly
I
saw
the
you
know
Decker's
the
reporter
from
Gabbar
and
comments
that
were
made
there,
and
obviously,
staff
worked
as
I
understand
from
the
packet
worked
very
hard
to
find
that
it's
suitable
proposal
for
this
latter.
There
are
any
additional
thinking's
that
would
be
helpful
from
staff
based
on
the
meeting
at
dapper
and
the.
I
In
the
dealings
that
I
had
with
mr.
James,
going
back
and
forth
a
multitude
of
times
with
different
proposals,
I
mean
had
kicked
it
back
to
him
over
and
over
saying
the
neighbors
had
this
concern
and
at
this
and
his
concern
and
ultimately,
in
my
eyes,
all
concerns
were
addressed
as
best
reasonably
possible,
which
was
when
the
staff
that
consider
this
to
be
a
different
proposal
to
the
Zoning
Board,
as
Fred
dapper
being
able
to
defer
to
the
Zoning
Administrator
I
was
not
at.
E
W
Approval
and
in
general
I
think
it
you
did
a
25-cent
white
lot
with
a
15-foot
setback
on
a
corner
to
5-foot
apart
setback,
interior
they're
gonna
be
variances
from
the
setbacks
and
then
looking
at
the
lot
coverage.
A
good
portion
of
the
lot
coverage
there
or
portion
above
the
required
lot
coverage
stems
from
the
building
parking
space
there.
Additionally,
I
think
it
was
noted
that
the
revised
plans
did
address
many
of
the
concerns
or
revisions
remaining
attempting
to
address.
Many
concerns
are
brought
up
at
the
previous
EPA
here.
A
Certainly,
if
you
have
a
vacant
lot
next
to
you
for
so
so
many
years,
anything
is
going
to
be
a
wall
against
your
property.
That
was
not
there
before.
So
so
that's
what
is
troubling
me
if
this
is
a
buildable
lot
and
this
project
has
been
scaled
back
and
scaled
back
well
to
some
extent
and
terms
up
in
terms
of
the
visual
I,
just
I'm,
not
that
again
I'm
throwing
this
up
to
my
colleagues
here
to
consider
if
there
has
been
enough
of
a
scale
back
or
if
or
if
more
can
still
be
done.
A
But
I
do
think
that
the
applicant
has
seems
to
have
worked
in
good
faith
with
staff
at
the
city
to
try
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
of
the
neighbors,
and
so
it's
a
difficult
call
to
make
it.
You
know.
Economic
development
and
increasing
housing
stock
is
always
an
objective
of
the
city
and
there
will
be
controversy,
regardless
of
what
property
is
built
on
this
line.
So
that
is
my
comment.
More.
G
The
applicant,
because
it's
it's
obvious
that
you're
trying
and
that
you
listen
to
the
last
meeting,
because
in
some
respects
this
plan
is
markedly
different
from
the
plan
we
had
before
us
at
the
last.
The
last
time
you
were
here
in
other
respects.
It's
not
in
my
view
that
first
floor
footprint
is
really
what
is
driving
most
of
the
variations
that
people
are
having
problems
with
and
you've
changed
the
first
floor
footprint
by
11
square
feet,
which
really
is
not
all
that
material.
G
W
G
G
Six
feet
from
the
neighbor's
house
is
really
close.
Three
feet
from
the
sidewalk
is
really
close
and,
in
addition,
while
the
spirit
to
create
a
sight
line
by
making
it
a
one
car
garage
and
the
parking
pad,
the
spirit
is
right.
I
do
think.
If
you're
using
that's
five,
it's
not
really
creating
a
sight
line,
you're
you're,
eliminating
the
wall
structure,
but,
as
one
neighbor
said,
if
there's
an
SUV
there,
you
know
you're,
not
gonna,
see
around
that
corner.
It's
not
really
creating
the
sight
line,
so
I
have
I
do
think.
G
L
G
C
With
these
guys,
this
may
not
be
the
proposal
for
this
lot.
However,
this
continues
to
come
up
and
so
I
feel
like
this
board
is
eventually
going
to
have
to
deal
with
the
amount
of
variances
and
if
each
of
these
or
others
to
put
a
house
on
this
slide,
this
is
a
desirable
neighborhood.
If
it's
not
this
developer,
it's
going
to
be
another
one.
So
I
mean
this
might
not
happen.
M
Love
to
hear
from
the
architects
like
on
the
board
to
see
what
your
thoughts
are
in
terms
of
the
proposal
that's
presented
here
and
whether
it's
the
least
change
necessary
in
terms
of
a
lot
of
coverage
and
and
some
of
the
other
variances
that
are
requested.
I'd
love
to
hear
your
your
your
thinking,
I.
B
H
E
H
Property,
and
so
the
neighborhood,
our
still
say
that
there
is,
there-
is
room
for
improvement
that
will
bring
probably
and
I
hope,
so
the
neighbors
don't
consent
to
building
this
this
long,
the
vault
is
very
difficult.
It's
really
non-conforming
with
its
size
and
its
dimensions
like
what
I
can
stay
a
little
bit
further
the
main
problems
for
me.
It's
the
side
that
side
setback
to
the
neighbor
and
the
overall
building
footprint,
so
the
error
or
the
error
variance,
is
seeing
much
more
retain
applicable.
H
These
two
are
the
ones
that
I
believe
for
everyone,
including
me,
so
what
I
would
suggest-
and
this
is
of
course,
advice
and
I-
don't
want
to
design,
but
looking
at
the
plans,
I
would
say
a
significant
part
of
this
layout
is
the
staircase
and
I
mentioned
it's
the
first
time.
I
saw
this
plan
for
such
a
small
building.
H
Such
luxury
staircase
seems
inappropriate
and
if
the
design
can
shrink,
the
width
of
the
staircase
here
is
one
option:
Thalia
to
reduce
the
general
footprint
and,
at
the
same
time,
this
may
bring
a
little
bit
of
a
again
option
to
shrink
the
width
of
the
whole
building
to
so
with
one,
probably
not
such
significant
change
in
the
interior
layout
that
we
can
can
achieve
the
two
major
things
that
are
kind
of
the
biggest
hurdle,
the
side
setback
and
the
footprint
of
the
Dalek.
So
this
is
my
my
advice
as
architect,
and
that's
what
you
mentioned.
H
J
J
J
It's
a
typical
sized,
staircase
I
think
it's
oversized.
It
shows
on
the
plan
that
it's
8
foot
3
nuts
from
outside
to
outside
you
subtract.
Another
foot
that
seven
foot
three
with
the
center
dividing
post
and
between
the
one
side
of
the
stair
and
the
other
side
here
still
is
about
three
foot
two,
maybe
inside
to
inside
so
six
foot.
Four.
If
that's
what
we're
calling
it?
J
The
other
thing
too,
with
the
site
setback
for
the
alley,
the
typical
site,
site
setback
for
an
alley
was
ten
by
ten,
so
ten
foot
in
one
direction,
ten
put
together
that
creates
a
triangle.
That's
your
site
triangle
that
you
need
to
conform
with.
If,
if
the
parking
structure
is
beyond
that
10
foot
by
10
foot
it
conforming,
that's
what
the
city
requires.
That
is
the
safety
by
any
engineer
by
a
safety
traffic
engineer.
That
is
what
is
required
if
they
are
meeting
this
I
have
no
problem.
This
project.
G
G
G
Not
a
flat,
but
it's
relative
and
as
I
look
at
the
other
homes
on
that
block
on
that
side
of
the
street
of
that
block,
they
just
all
seem
to
be
a
lot
more
modest-sized
than
what's
being
proposed
and
I.
In
my
view,
that's
probably
the
sweet
spot
of
what
should
be
put
on
this
property
to
develop
is
something
along
the
similar
lines.
The
the
other
properties.
G
Each
of
the
houses
right
so
to
be
clear,
I'm,
not
suggesting
that
a
5
foot
wide
house
needs
to
be
built
on
this
property.
It's
not
anything
I
said,
and
it's
not
what
I'm
suggesting,
but
I
think
I
do
think
that
the
current
proposal
for
this
structure
is
still
much
larger
than
what
the
character
of
this
block
needs
and
that
there
is
a
market
for
a
home
of
the
similar
size
of
the
other
homes
that
are
on
this
block.
G
If
the
home
was
a
similar
size
with
a
similar
footprint,
I
personally
would
feel
more
inclined
to
grant
the
variations
that
are
being
requested,
but
otherwise
I
think,
with
the
with
the
length
of
the
home
at
the
length
that
it's
at
to
me,
it's
overreaching
the
probe.
The
proposal
is
overreaching,
I
just
heard.
E
B
K
G
Character
with
the
rest
of
the
block,
and
again
it's
not
scientific
but
as
I
look
at
the
at
the
map
for
the
rest
of
the
block.
It
looks
like
several
of
those
homes
are
very
close
to
the
property
lines,
as
murder
pointed
out
grandfathered
in
so
perhaps
that
is
the
character
of
that
block,
but
I
think
putting
a
longer
home
with
those
very
minimal
setbacks
creates
a
bigger
problem
than
than
uncomfortable
approving.
B
C
B
Yeah
so
I
agree
with
parts
of
what
all
of
you,
I
guess
for
me:
I
I'm,
certainly
less
concerned
about
the
side
yard
setback
to
the
neighbor,
because
I
think
that,
although
six
feet
between
houses
seems
tight
to
mr.
horse
neigh,
it's
certainly
typical
in
other
parts
of
the
city
and
in
fact
it's
often
times
less
than
that
between
two
houses.
I
think
for
me,
they're,
the
real.
B
The
real
sticking
point
I
have
is
how
close
it
is
to
the
to
the
sidewalk,
because
I
think
that
that
affects
everyone
in
the
neighborhood
versus
a
smaller,
smaller
number
of
people,
and
so
for
me,
a
longer
thinner
house
makes
more
sense.
I
do
appreciate
that
you
you've
made
a
concerted
effort
to
really
condense
the
plan.
I
think
Carol's
point
is
well
made
that
the
stair
is
probably
a
little
bit
more
generous
than
the
house
of
this
price
point
in
this.
It
needs
to
be,
but
that's
your
choice.
B
Also
I,
just
for
me,
it's
just
way
too
close
to
the
sidewalk
I
think
that
that
distance
of
a
wall
less
imposing
than
it
used
to
be,
but
certainly
still
a
tall
wall.
There
has
a
big
impact
on
how
that
sidewalk
feels
and
how
that
stretch
of
the
street
feels.
So
we
are
at
an
interesting
yep.
Did
you
want
to
make
your
comments
in
I
just.
M
Want
to
speak
to
respond
to
something
that
you
said
and
speak
to
the
LMP
ìletís
point,
and
that
the
city
has
has
indicated
that
this
is
a
buildable
lot
and
so
lightly.
There
is
a
market
for
something
to
be
built
there.
My
concern
is
that
you
know
from
from
me,
not
just
among
this
board
from
staff
to
dapper
to
all
the
various
viewpoints
that
have
been
represented
on
this
board.
I
do
not
feel
that
we're
sending
a
clear
signal
to
this
builder
in
terms
of
how
to
move
forward.
L
B
A
A
I
A
So
is
it
is
it?
Is
it
typical
to
have
the
Builder
in
this
circumstance,
he's
been
before
GBA
device
to
go
through
the
process
of
coming
to
see
me
a
third
time
or
you
know
if
we're
saying
that
there
are
conditions
on
and
I
think
that
the
overall
sense
of
this
this
board
right
now
is
to
reject
this
plan
as
it
is,
and
therefore
perhaps
we
just
want
to
recommend
that
City
Council
not
approve
it
and
and
let
the
Builder
decide
to
come
back
or
to
just
present.
Prime.
G
A
I
agree
with
that,
but
I'm
just
saying
that
we
then,
if
we
recommend
that
this
be
denied,
if
we
recommend
something
else
it
would
this
be
denied,
then
the
Builder
has
the
choice
of
either
coming
back.
What
the
provides
plan
so
that
you
can
go
to
City
Council
with
a
recommendation
for
approval
or
going
directly
to
City
Council,
saying
I,
listened
I
heard
here
my
revised
plans,
that's
what
I'm
suggesting
the
Builder
has
a
choice
at
that
point
right.
A
B
B
B
M
G
G
Too
and
I
think
he
listened
and
I
think
he
tried
to
address
some
of
those
and
I
think
he
listened
to
the
neighbors
and
tried
to
address
some
of
their
concerns
right
and
the
problem
I
have
with
simply
wanting
it
over
to
City
Council.
Is
that
it
basically
says
we
don't
want
to
do
our
job
on
this,
because
they
because
City
Council
is
relying
on
us
to
make
an
informed
recommendation
and
not
just
say
well.
A
With
it,
but
we
want
you
guys
to
decide
what
the
right,
no
I'm,
not
saying
I'm,
not
saying
that
we
recommend
that
they
approve
with
these
conditions.
We
recommend
that
they
did
I
accept
that
I'm.
Just
saying
that
we
recommend
and
dead
city
council
not
approve
this
plan,
and
then
at
that
point
the
Builder
has
a
choice
to
say:
I'm
going
to
City
Council
anyway
or
75
school
games
and
go
back
to
the
CBI
I.
B
Hands,
because
here
it
is
here's
an
example
right
we
can
approve
a
this
is
how
it
goes.
You
could
approve
a
plan
that
says
it
has
to
have
a
five
to
five
guards
outside
our
setbacks,
and
it
has
to
still
have
my
grant
or
a
proof
or
a
roof
that
sets
back
at
the
second
floor
level.
Those
sorts
of
things
to.
A
It's
fun
to
make
those
comments
publicly,
as
you
have
yeah,
but
I,
don't
think
that
we
should
get
in
the
business
of
designing
space.
You
know
they
heard
us.
They've
heard
the
neighbors
they
they
responded
in
large
measure
to
it.
Maybe
they
come
response
more
and
maybe
they
can
do
it
before
the
city
council
meeting
or
maybe
they
would
prefer
to.
We
decide
to
come
back
to
us.
That
will
be
up
to
that.
Once
we
have
made
a
recommendation.
I.
P
P
B
E
B
There
are
seven
standards
number
one.
The
requested
variation
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
impact
on
the
use,
enjoyment
or
property
values
of
a
gene
for
joining
properties
I
because
of
the
closest
to
the
sidewalk
and
the
still
the
the
height
of
that
wall,
and
it's
closest
to
the
sidewalk
I
think
that
it
will
have
an
impact
on
the
neighborhood
and
the
enjoyment
of
people
that
I,
don't
think
will
have
an
impact
on
everybody,
but
I
do
think
it
will
have
an
impact
on
enjoyment.
So
I
do
not
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
B
G
B
Is
in
keeping
with
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance,
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance
is
obviously
to
allow
the
development
of
land
that
is
deemed
available
by
the
city,
and
so
actually
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
three
alleged
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
is
peculiar
to
the
property
again
I,
don't
for
me,
a
25-foot
live
wide
lot
is
not
necessarily
a
difficulty,
that's
peculiar
to
the
property.
What
is
peculiar
airs
at
mrs.
B
site
that
it
is
a
street
facing
side
yard
with
a
15-foot
side,
yard
setback
which
does
make
any
development
on
this
piece
of
land
nearly
impossible.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
four
the
owner
would
suffer
a
particular
part
ship
or
practical
difficulty
as
distinguished
from
a
mere
inconvenience
if
the
strict
letter
of
the
regulations
or
PD
to
be
carried
out,
I
think
that
there's
probably
a
little
bit
of
design
work
here.
That
could
get
this
to
a
better
place
from
from
a
variance
perspective
and
so
I.
B
Don't
think
that
any
modifying
the
plan
isn't
going
to
create
any
additional
hardship.
I
think
it's
just
a
difficulty
and
so
I
don't
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
five.
The
purpose
of
the
variation
is
not
based
exclusively
upon
to
extract
additionally
for
the
property,
or
there
is
a
public
benefit.
There
certainly
is
a
desire
to
extract
additional
income.
This
is
a
spec
house
that
is
to
be
built
for
profit,
and
so
there
is
certainly
a
profit
motive
here.
B
There
is
a
public
benefit
to
developing
this
in
the
right
way
in
developing
it
in
a
way
that
is
befitting
of
the
neighborhood
and
that
fits
in
with
it
so
that
it
doesn't
stick
out
as
a
20-18
house,
so
I,
don't
unfortunately,
at
this
time,
I,
don't
think
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
six,
the
alleged
difficulty
or
hardship,
has
not
been
created
by
any
person
having
an
interest
in
the
property.
This
property
was
clad
in
long
before
the
owner
owned,
bought
the
property,
so
that
standard
has
certainly
been
met
and
number
seven.
B
The
requested
variation
requires
the
least
deviation
from
the
applicable
regulation
among
the
peaceful
options
identified
before
the
Zoning
Board
appeals.
I
I,
don't
think
that
we
are
yet
at
the
least
deviation
necessary,
I.
Think
that
there's
there's
a
little
bit
more
massaging
of
this
plan
that
can
get
to
a
better
place
from
a
standard
setback
and
lot
coverage
perspective.
So
I
do
not
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.