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A
Good
evening
and
welcome
this
is
a
public
hearing
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
of
the
city
of
Evanston.
The
zoning
ordinance
directs
this
body
to
hear
applications
for
major
variations,
special
uses
and
appeals
from
decisions
of
the
Zoning
Administrator,
depending
on
the
type
of
matter.
This
board
will
either
make
a
final
determination
or
send
its
recommendation
to
City
Council.
Unless
so,
you
call
roll
please
Lisa.
C
B
A
Five
five
members
present
we
do
have
a
quorum
tonight
also
present
tonight
our
zoning
planner
Melissa
Klotz
and
Planning
and
Zoning
Administrator
Scott
Mangum.
This
is
a
formal
meeting
and
there
are
rules
that
govern
our
proceedings.
Most
importantly,
only
one
person
speaks
at
a
time
so
that
all
testimony
may
be
accurately
recorded.
Anyone
who
wishes
to
address
the
board
regarding
any
matter
on
the
agenda
will
have
the
opportunity
to
do
so
at
the
appropriate
time.
A
Our
procedure
is
to
hear
from
staff
on
the
documents
on
file
and
then
receive
testimony
and
other
evidence
from
the
applicant
or
appellant
next.
Persons
who
wish
to
make
a
statement
regarding
the
matter
may
do
so
at
that
time,
any
person
with
a
legal
interest
in
property
located
within
500
feet
of
the
subject.
Property
may
present
evidence
reasonably
question
witnesses
or
seek
a
continuance
of
the
hearing.
When
all
supporting
and
opposing
testimony
and
statements
have
been
heard,
the
applicant
or
appellant
will
be
given
the
opportunity
for
rebuttal
or
a
closing
statement.
A
Then
the
board
will
close
the
record
and
begin
deliberations.
All
testimony
will
be
under
oath,
although
we
do
not
apply
the
strict
rules
of
evidence.
Please
limit
your
testimony
or
stamp
into
your
personal
knowledge.
When
you
address
the
board,
please
state
your
name
and
address
and
sign
in
on
the
provided
sheet.
Our
meetings
are
audio
and
video
recorded.
Please
make
sure
that
you
are
at
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asking
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or
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so
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you
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be
properly
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All
proceedings
are
subject
to
broadcast
at
a
later
date.
A
A
Six
items
on
the
agenda
is
33:18,
grantee
great,
how
about
20,
sorry,
2004
Central
Street
in
1724,
Sherman
and
2200
main
and
348
Custer
and
last
but
not
least,
1943
Sherman
they've
got
time
to
stop
okay,
so
before
we
get
into
all
of
our
all
of
our
business,
anybody
who
has
a
inattention
on
speaking
tonight
can
I
get
you
to
raise
your
right
hand.
Please
do
swear,
affirm
to
tell
the
truth
throughout
the
course
of
these
proceedings
fabulous.
A
A
Been
moved
and
seconded
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye,
aye
opposed
and
I
will
note
that
those
not
voting
we're
not
here
at
that
meeting.
Next,
we
will
move
on
to
old
business,
which
is
3318
grant
Street.
That
was
a
project
that
we
heard
two
meetings
ago
and
we
were
at
a
3-3
tie
on
that
vote.
We
have
the
seventh
member
of
our
board
here
tonight
and
I
just
want
to
confirm
Myrna
that
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
all
the
documents
on
file
and
you've.
Seen
all
the
testimony.
Yes,.
A
And
your
vote
on
that
case
is
in
favor
all
right,
so,
with
a
vote
of
4
to
3,
your
variances
are
approved
good
luck
with
your
project,
moving
on
to
2004
Central
Street.
This
is
a
continuance
from
our
last
meeting,
which
we
did
not
read
into
the
record,
so
Melissa
who's
reading
it
Scott.
Would
you
mind
reading
that
into
the
record?
Please?
Yes,
thank.
F
You,
madam
chair
members,
the
board
members
of
the
public.
This
item
is
especially
used
for
a
type
2
restaurant
John,
Kim
property
owner
applies
for
the
special
use
to
expand
a
type
2
restaurant
backlot
coffee
from
2006
Central
Street
to
also
include
2004
Central
Street,
this
located
within
the
b1,
a
business
district
and
OC
SC
Central
Street
overlay
district.
In
this
case,
the
CBA
makes
a
recommendation.
City
Council
and
the
City
Council
is
determining
body
city
staff
and
dapper
have
both
reviewed
the
case
and
are
recommending
approval
for
the
type
2
restaurant.
F
Attachments
included
with
the
staff
report
include
the
the
application,
the
business
summary
platter
survey,
sustainability
practices,
worksheet
one
letter,
support
and
additional
information
about
the
property.
That
includes
a
summary
of
the
staff
report
and
we're
available
for
questions.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
C
A
G
What
we're
proposing
to
do
is
on
the
left.
Side
is
what's
existing
right
now
and
then
on
the
right
side
would
be
2004
Central
Street.
So
we
want
to
bust
a
hole
through
the
front
wall,
the
I
guess
the
east
facing
wall
and
then
create
more
seating
and
build
out
a
kind
of
a
light
food
kitchen
in
the
back
corner
of
the
restaurant.
G
G
What
we're
already
doing
so,
instead
of
doing
the
burritos
we'll
do
them
in
house
and
we'll
probably
bake
off
scones
in
house
rather
than
grab
them
from
other
places,
and
do
things
like
that,
so
it
won't
be
anything
we'll
add
some
green
salads
do
some
overnight
oats,
but
all
packaged
and
ready
to
go
rather
than
I'm
a
tour
rather
than
a
to
order.
Kitchen
does.
C
G
Other
than
refrigeration
we'll
get
some
like
commercial
grade
mixers
in
there
on
convection
ovens.
So
nothing
that's
going
to
be
doing
black
iron,
so
it'll
all
be
just
a
regular
type
to
ventilation
that
will
offend
out
the
heat
and
some
of
the
odors.
But
we're
not
going
to
put
in
like
a
black
iron
kitchen.
G
C
G
H
G
G
G
A
G
A
G
A
G
H
G
A
C
K
I
A
All
right
I'm,
very
pleased
that
you've
been
successful
and
are
able
to
expand
as
well.
I.
Think
that's
a
great
thing.
So
congratulations
on
that.
Let's
there
are
nine
standards
for
special
uses
number
one.
It
is
one
of
the
special
uses
specifically
listed
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
It
is,
and
so
that
standard
has
been
met
it's
in
keeping
with
the
perfect
number
two
it's
in
keeping
with
the
purposes
and
policies
of
the
adapted,
comprehensive
general
plan
and
then
zoning
ordinance
as
amended
to
tap
from
time
to
time.
A
One
of
the
purposes
of
the
general
comprehensive
general
plan
is
to
promote
growth
and
redevelopment
and
strengthen
our
economic
base,
and
this
is
the
definition
of
that.
So
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
three:
it
will
not
cause
a
negative
cumulative
effect
when
its
effect
is
considered
in
conjunction
with
the
cumulative
effect
of
various
special
uses
of
all
types
in
the
immediate
neighborhood
and
the
effect
of
the
proposed
type
of
special
use
upon
the
city
as
a
whole.
We've
heard
no
testimony
that
there
will
be
an
increase
in
traffic.
A
A
It
won't
and
in
fact
a
successful
business
increases
the
value
of
the
property
as
it
continues
to
draw
more
people
to
the
street.
So
that
standard
has
been
met,
number
five:
it
can
be
adequately
served
by
public
facilities
and
services.
There
is
parking
kitty-corner
from
the
facility
from
the
retail
space
as
well
as
street
parking,
and
it
is
served
by
both
bus
lines,
I
think,
and
certainly
the
metro.
A
It's
also
served
obviously
by
alleys
and
and
regular
garbage
service.
So
I
do
believe
that
those
standards
have
been
met.
Number
six.
It
does
not
cause
undue
traffic
congestion.
There
have
been
no
complaints
about
the
current
location,
and
so
we
certainly
expect
a
little
bit
more
traffic,
but
certainly
not
undue
traffic
congestion.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
seven.
It
preserves
significant
historical
and
architectural
resources.
A
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
significant,
the
historical
or
architectural
about
that
building,
but
as
I
do
understand,
there
will
be
no
changes
made
to
the
exterior
of
the
building,
so
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
eight.
It
preserves
significant
natural
and
environmental
features
which
is
not
applicable
and
number
nine.
A
A
Been
moved
and
seconded
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed
and
with
the
vote
of
six
to
seven
to
zero
six
six
to
zero.
You
go
to
City
Council
for
with
a
recommendation
for
approval.
Good
luck
with
your
project,
all
right.
Moving
on
to
1724
Sherman
Avenue,
mr.
Mangum
Maya.
Please
read
this
for
the
record.
Yes,.
F
Thank
you,
chair
burns
members
of
board
members
of
public
James
Shepherd
Lisi
applies
for
a
special
use
permit
for
a
type
2
restaurant
kill,
winds,
chocolates
and
the
d2
downtown
district
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
does
make
a
recommendation.
City
Council
who's,
a
determining
body
for
this
case
city
staff
and
dapper
both
recommend
approval.
F
With
that,
that's
a
summary,
the
staff
report
an
addition,
their
attachments,
the
special
use,
application,
business,
summary
sustainability,
practice,
worksheet
applied
a
survey
and
additional
documentation
about
the
property
itself.
That
concludes
a
summary
we
were
available
for
questions.
Thank
you.
Thank.
L
I
will
be
the
owner
and
operator
of
a
killins
franchise
at
1724
Sherman,
we're
gonna
specialize
in
the
sale
of
handcrafted,
fine,
chocolates,
original,
a
Killins
original
brand
original
recipe,
ice
cream,
some
meat
and
store
products
such
as
fudge,
caramels,
brittles,
corns,
caramel
apples
and
then
some
dipped
items,
chocolate,
dipped
items
that
we
will
make
in
the
store
and
we'll
also
have
some
taken
home
products.
It
will
offer
for
people
to
buy
so
about.
L
30
percent
of
our
product
is
gonna,
be
made
in
the
store
in
our
in
the
front
of
our
store
in
the
front
window,
which
we
call
kind
of
our
theater
it
why
it's
kind
of
a
display
for
people
passing
by
we're
gonna
be
highly
dependent
on
foot
traffic
for
our
business
and
that
kind
of
plays
to
that.
So
a
lot
of
will
be
seen
by
people
walking
by
us
making
product
and
displaying
product
in
the
front
window.
I'm
Sherman.
L
L
L
I'm
told
that
we'll
have
at
max
5,
ok.
C
L
L
Will
have
a
delivery
from
Killins
and
I
think
some
stores
get
them
once
a
month.
I
believe
that
we
could
get
it
every
two
weeks,
possibly
and
I.
Think
some
of
that
may
depend
on
how
busy
we
are,
but
I
think
I'm
expecting
every
two
weeks,
so
a
delivery
from
Killens
and
then
maybe
smaller
deliveries
of
smaller
items
that
we
need
is.
L
We
need
to
have
them
in
the
front
door
as
part
of
our
lease,
if
stated
that
we
can't
have
them
come
in
through
the
back
and
I
think.
The
back
alley
is
very
difficult
for
any
truck
to
come
back
and
do
that
anyway.
So
they'll
be
through
the
front
door
and,
as
we
talked
about
in
dapper,
I
expect
to
have
them
early
and,
if
they're
not
as
early
as
as
we
can
I
think
using
only
the
available
alleys
and
possibly
coming
in
through
the
front
door
wheeling
the
delivery
down
or
something
so.
L
L
Most
of
and
part
of
the
special
use
process
is.
We
are
asking
for
a
few
seats.
It's
asking
for
how
many
seats
five
seats,
five
seats,
yeah,
so
I
mean
we're
a
desert
destination.
Most
of
our
product
is
kind
of
grab
and
go
either
or
take
it
home
envision
ice-cream
somebody
stops
in
for
an
ice-cream
and
goes
walking
I'm.
So
you
know
most
customers
don't
stay
in
store.
L
We
do
we
are
trying
to
put
in
a
few
seats
just
for
from
my
own
experience
with
you
know.
Somebody
has
kids
just
to
sit
down
for
a
few
minutes
or
inclement
weather,
especially
during
the
winter
as
we
are
gonna,
be
a
seasonal
store
just
to
provide
a
place
for
somebody,
who's
stopped
in
for
a
few
minutes.
So,
but
it's
not
a
need
in
store
and
most
people
won't
spend
a
lot
of
time.
In
the
story
you
said
it's
seasonal.
We
saw
a
lot
of
ice
cream,
so
a
lot
of
the
sales
will
go.
D
L
C
L
L
A
L
So
we
did
get
approved
for
permit
for
our
signage
originally
and
the
landlord's
gonna
paint
the
building
before
they're.
H
L
L
L
A
A
A
I
A
L
L
L
C
I
Agree
I
think
that's
an
opportunity
to
you
know
hopefully
improve
the
storefront
activate
that
space
I've
been
to
other
killman's
and
various
locations
and
when
I
heard
it
coming
here
at
that,
oh
we're
becoming
a
vacation
town
because
I
usually
go
to
kill
once
when
I'm
on
vacation,
so
I
think
it's
a
it's.
A
nice
use
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
it
I
would.
C
A
Excellent
I'm
in
greement
with
the
rest
of
my
colleagues,
so
we
will
now
go
through
the
you
nine
standards
for
special
uses
number
one.
It
is
one
of
the
specially
used
to
specifically
listed
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
It
is
so
that
standard
has
been
met,
number
two:
it
is
in
keeping
with
purposes
and
policies
of
the
adapted,
comprehensive
general
plan
and
the
zoning
ordinance
as
amended
from
time
to
time
again
we're
promoting
growth.
A
One
of
the
goals
is
to
promote
growth
and
redevelopment
and
strengthen
our
economic
base,
which
a
business
that
is
coming
into
a
Navigant
storefront
certainly
will
do
so
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
three:
it
will
not
cause
a
negative
cumulative
effect
when
its
effect
is
considered
in
conjunction
with
the
cumulative
effect
of
various
special
uses
of
all
types
in
the
immediate
neighborhood
and
the
effect
of
the
proposed
type
of
special
use
upon
the
city
as
a
whole.
A
Although
the
downtown
is
filled
with
special
uses,
the
downtown
is
set
up
to
handle
all
of
those
special
uses,
and
this
certainly
is
complimentary
to
everything
else.
That's
going
on
in
the
downtown
area,
so
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
four
does
not
interfere
with
or
diminish
the
value
of
property
in
the
neighborhood.
As
we
say
all
the
time,
a
an
activated
storefront
increases
the
value
of
the
neighborhood,
so
that
standard
has
certainly
been
met.
Number
five:
it
can
be
adequately
served
by
public
facilities
and
services.
A
It's
it's
it's
right
there
in
town,
and
so
you
can
get
to
it
via
every
mode
of
transportation
possible
and
so
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met,
number
six.
It
will
not
cause.
It
does
not
cause
undue
traffic
congestion.
We're
certainly
not
expecting
great
amounts
of
traffic.
At
certain
times
of
the
day,
it
will
be
continuous
traffic
throughout
the
day
and
so
I
don't
believe
that
that
will
cause
any
undue
traffic
congestion
to
the
area
so
that
standard
has
been
met.
A
It
preserves
significant
historical
and
architectural
resources,
none
of
which
apply
and
number
eight.
It
preserves
significant
natural
and
environmental
features,
and
that
does
not
apply
either
and
number
nine.
It
complies
with
all
of
their
political
regulations
of
the
district
in
which
it
is
located
and
other
applicable
ordinances.
A
It
certainly
will
by
getting
its
business
license,
and
so
with
that
the
standard
has
been
met.
Now
we
do
need
to
talk
about
a
couple
of
conditions:
they're
ours,
they're
asking
for
our
10:00
a.m.
to
11:00
p.m.
other
businesses
in
that
area,
go
from
7:00
a.m.
for
the
Taco
Bell
to
3:00
a.m.
for
insomnia
cookies.
A
C
Also,
the
employee
parking
condition.
Sorry.
A
I
D
I
That
we
make
a
positive
recommendation
to
City
Council
with
the
following
conditions:
that
hours
of
operation
be
limited
to
10
a.m.
to
11
p.m.
that
employees
be
directed
to
park,
to
not
take
metered
parking
on
Sherman
Avenue
that
the
applicant
followed
the
sustainability
practices,
including
offering
tap
water
and
the
other
items
included
in
that
and
those
practices,
including
recycling
practices.
That
deliveries
ideally
happen
before
7:00
a.m.
but
no
later
than
9:00
a.m.
and
that
the
practices
and
business
operations
are
in
keeping
with
the
testimony
presented
here
this
evening.
It's
like
it's.
A
B
Donnelly
floater
architect
applies
for
a
special
use,
permit
and
major
zoning
relief
to
expand
a
daycare
center
child,
the
infant
Welfare
Society
of
Evanston
in
the
art
to
single-family
residential
district
zoning
code,
section
six,
eight
three:
three
and
a
west
interior
side
yard
setback
of
six
point:
one
feet
where
15
feet
is
required
for
non-residential
structures.
Zoning
code
section
six,
eight,
three,
seven
b3
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
is
the
recommending
body
and
the
City
Council
is
the
determining
body.
For
this
case.
C
K
M
M
So
the
project
is
approximately
700
square
feet
of
a
current
outdoor
play
space
that
has
seen
better
days
and
we
are
going
to
be
turning
into
an
indoor
play
space,
hopefully
gross
motor
space
play
space
for
our
existing
number
of
children.
We
have
very
little
indoor
space
for
our
infants
and
toddlers
to
not
only
play
in
an
inclement
weather,
but
with
our
therapists
gross
motor
developmental
specialists.
They
need
space
to
work
with
the
children
indoors,
and
this
will
provide
a
lot
of
very
positive
indoor
space
for
those
children.
M
Eighty-Five
percent
of
our
children
are
low-income.
We
work
with
high
needs
populations
about
10
15
%
disabilities,
so
this
indoor
space
will
allow
for
that
work
to
happen.
The
space
we
currently
have
is
very
small
and
then
again
when
there's
inclement
weather
winter
rain,
we
have
to
take
kids
two
at
a
time
or
three
at
a
time
in
order
to
play,
because
we
just
don't
have
the
indoor
space.
So
this
will
provide
that
opportunity
and
it
is
on
the
west
side
of
our
building
adjacent
to
the
alley.
The
west
northwest
corner
of
our
property.
D
K
H
M
I
K
We
are
asking
for
the
two
things
we're
asking
for:
one
is
the
special
use.
We
can
address
that
pretty
quickly.
It's
a
non-residential
use
in
a
residential
zone
area.
It's
been
used
by
the
infant
Welfare
Society
for
40
years
in
this
same
building,
so
we're
not
changing
the
use,
that's
been
present,
but
because
we're
doing
this
addition,
the
special
use
request,
comes
into
play.
The
other
thing
we're
asking
for
is
a
side
yard
setback,
variance
for
that
Westside
and
it
would
take
away
the
parking
space.
That's
currently
there
and.
I
That's
one
parallel
parking
space.
There
are
two
so
I
drove
by
there
today.
You
know
looking
at
sort
of
the
parking
situation
help
talk
to
us
about.
You
know
how
parking
is
used.
Currently,
where
do
you
know
parents?
How
does
drop-off
happen
where
the
teachers
park?
What
does
your
parking
look
like
today?
Sure.
M
So
we're
open
from
7:30
to
5:30
p.m.
so
drop-off
is
really
between
7:30
and
I
would
say
9:00.
It
starts
to
trail
off,
pickup
usually
starts
around
4:00
4:30
and
then
trails
off
5:30,
sometimes
a
little
late,
but
so
those
are
the
times
where
we
have
the
most
traffic
and
parents
pull
in
for
a
few
minutes.
They
come
in
and
get
their
children
may
have
a
conversation
with
the
teacher
and
then
drive
away.
So
it's
kind
of
ongoing
pickup
drop-off
during
most
of
the
day
there's
empty
parking
spaces.
M
Most
of
our
staff
do
not
park
in
front
due
to
the
parent,
drop-off
and
visitor
coming
by
periodically
so
currently,
most
staff
Park
on
all
of
the
streets
that
are
allowable
parking,
whether
that's
Hartree,
whether
that's
Lea
Street,
whether
that's
Main
Street,
a
couple
other
streets
that
are
in
the
neighborhood
that
are
all
open
parking
I
do
also
want
to
share.
We
have
a
letter
that
I
want
to
present
to
you
all
from
our
neighbor
adjacent
Tom
Ward,
who
owns
Ward
manufacturing.
M
If
I
can
read
it
and
I'll
present
it
to
you
as
well,
it
says
Stephen,
Ward
manufacturing
is
pleased
to
support
the
construction
project
at
the
infant
Welfare
Society
of
Evanston.
We
are
supportive
of
the
zoning
variance
that
would
allow
IWC
to
push
out
towards
the
alley
adjacent
to
our
property.
In
addition,
though,
there
is
plenty
of
street
parking.
If
there
were
an
emergency
need
for
parking,
we
would
be
willing
to
have
IWC
utilize
two
slots
in
our
parking
lot
to
make
up
for
the
loss
of
their
two
spaces.
M
So
I
would
share
that,
though
we're
losing
those
two
slots
if
there
were
a
need,
our
neighbor
adjacent
to
the
alley.
The
manufacturing
bass
has
plenty
of
parking
and
he
is
willing
to
have
those
slots
used
in
his
parking.
If
needed,
I
would
say:
there's
plenty
of
parking
in
the
neighborhood,
but
again
just
to
clarify
if
we
needed
those
he
would
be
willing
to
have
two
of
our
staff
park
in
his
lot.
I.
E
M
I
M
No
one
parks:
there
are
two
staff
that
regularly
park
there.
Parents
do
not
park
there,
it's
just
a
drive
by
and
drop
off
in
the
I
think
it's
nine
slots
that
we
have
I
believe
or
eight
or
ten
slots
that
we
have.
So
those
are
the
slots
that
parents
drop
off
or
pick
up
or
visitors
that
are
coming
may
park.
They're
volunteers.
B
Because
of
the
configuration
of
the
property,
the
property
line
that
abuts
the
alley
is
actually
considered
an
interior
side
yard,
which
is
why
it
has
the
15-foot
requirement
for
a
residential
structure.
It
would
be
a
5
foot
setback,
but
it's
it's
because
it's
a
corner
lot.
That
also
has
an
alley.
So
it's
just
an
odd
configuration.
B
Basically,
traditionally,
a
a
typical
property
that
would
probably
be
considered
the
rear
yard,
but
in
this,
in
this
case
and
with
the
location
of
the
existing
building,
zoning
is
considering
at
the
side
yard.
So
it
you
could
kind
of
think
of
it
as
if
that
was
a
single-family
home,
then
it
would
be
the
rear
yard
abutting
the
alley
where
you
could
have
a
detached
garage.
That
would
be
three
feet
off
of
that,
because.
A
H
A
Just
don't
understand
why
zoning
good
15
feet
off
an
alley.
It's
an
alley
anyway.
I
digress.
Okay,
any
other
questions,
nope,
okay,
thanks
guys.
Thank.
A
N
N
It's
nice
having
the
daycare
center
right
next
door
and
I
think
it's
a
great
facility
for
the
community
to
have
I
just
have
a
couple
of
concerns
and
number
one
is
the
parking
so
and
I
don't
know
who
parks,
but
a
lot
of
the
individuals
and
I
believe
who
work
at
the
center
park
on
the
Hartree
street
and
the
park
in
front
of
our
house.
My
mother
is
86.
N
N
Don't
care
if
the
kids
throw
the
balls
in
our
inner
yard
there
they're
very
nice
to
have
just
my
concern
is
the
parking
and
on
occasions
somebody
comes
and
does
the
lawn
and
they
put
leaves
sometimes
they
come
under
the
defense
that
we
have.
But
I
would
ask
you
to
to
take
a
look
and
look
at
the
parking
situation,
because
it
is
cluttered
and
I
think
that
we
do
have
a
problem
with
that.
Thank.
A
You
I'm
gonna
recommend
that
you
call
your
Alderman
and
talk
with
them
about
what
they
can
do
to
get
you
some
some
parking
in
front
of
the
space.
Okay
mom
is
handicapped.
She
can
get
a
handicapped
space
in
front
of
her
spot.
Okay
in
front
of
our
house,
so
coordinate
with
your
Alderman
on
that
okay
and
see
if
they
can
help
you
out
all
right.
Thank
you.
So
much
sure.
Thank
you.
Come
on
up.
O
Janice
Chapin
I
live
at
832
Hartree,
it's
two
doors
away
from
the
daycare.
There
are
wonderful
neighbors
and
just
what
Susan
was
saying
about
the
parking,
it's
intense
I
mean
there's
to
have
a
delivery
during
the
day.
It's
it's
a
dead
end
called
a
sack
so
to
make
that
that's
that
roundabout
and
there's
really
no
parking,
and
it
goes
down
the
block.
O
We
love
our
neighbors,
but
it's
a
little
bit
of
an
inconvenience
and
getting
Barbara
a
handicapped
space
and
I
could
apply
for
a
handicapped
space.
Our
neighbor
next
to
us
has
a
handicapped
space.
That's
just
not
going
to
work.
You
can't
have
whole
half
of
the
block
as
a
handicapped
space
I,
don't
think
if
they
could
spread
out,
maybe
on
some
of
the
other
streets.
That
would
be
great
but
they're,
wonderful,
neighbors.
They
take
care
of
the
skunk's
and
they
do
everything.
That's
that's
right.
Above
them
and
they're
there.
O
A
Answer
when
you're
done,
oh
yeah,
so
if
you
ask
all
your
questions,
I'll
give
them
a
chance
to
come
up
and
answer
and
address
parking
and
all
that
good
stuff.
Okay,
okay,
thanks
very
much
for
coming
out
appreciate
it.
Do
you
guys
want
to
come
up
and
address
those
two
concerns
parking
and
garbage
so.
M
A
M
Guess,
in
terms
of
the
other
question
about
parking
on
Hartree,
what
I
can
do
is
ask
staff
to
park
on
the
other
side
of
Main.
It's
I
know
it's
open
parking,
so
it's
that
we
can't
deny
them
to
park
there,
but
I
respect
our
neighbors
and
want
to
try
to
be
a
good
neighbor,
and
so
certainly
I
can
talk
to
staff
about
parking
on
the
other
side
of
Main.
M
I
think
there's
parking
on
Lee
Street,
there's
another
couple
streets
that
they
can
park
on
and
so
I
can
certainly
do
that
and
ask
staff
to
try
to
move
from
the
current
existing
space.
Obviously,
some
people
may
Park
on
archery.
I,
certainly
agree
that
if
there's
a
handicap
need
they
should
get
a
handicap
space
in
front
of
their
house.
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
but
we
can
certainly
try
to
talk
to
staff
about
spreading
out
a
little
bit
more
I
think
there's
ample
parking
all
over
the
neighborhood.
M
I
M
I
M
M
I
have
had
a
conversation
with
Alderman
Braithwaite
and
he
was
going
to
reach
out
to
the
food
for
less
parking
area
yeah,
which
has
ample
parking
and
yeah.
So
there
may
be
a
conversation
that
we
can
have
with
the
owner
of
that
larger
space.
There's
parking
spots
just
on
the
east
side
of
that
lot
by
the
gas
station,
where
that
are
almost
always
open,
and
so
he
was
going
to
support
us
in
reaching
out
to
that
owner
as
well
to
see
if
there
could
be
spots
that
we
could
use
in
that
regard.
I
think.
A
That
makes
a
lot
of
sense
because,
obviously
you
want
to
be
a
good
neighbor
and
we
know
you're
not
intensive
on
your
you're,
not
increasing
your
staff,
but
if
you're,
if
you're,
causing
some
grief
for
the
neighbors,
it's
good
to
take
care
of
that
and
should
be
that
good,
neighbor
and
so
to
work
with
the
aldermen.
To
try
and
find
some
additional
parking
would
be
a
good
faith
effort.
Yeah.
C
A
I
C
J
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much.
I
agree
generally
with
the
comments
of
my
colleagues.
I
do
think
we
do
need
to
solve
that
parking
problem.
They
may
not
be
your
employees,
but
to
the
extent
that
you
can
help
the
situation.
It's
always
just
going
to
be
helpful,
so
we
have
two
things
here.
We
have
a
special
use
because
we're
increasing
the
intensity
of
the
special
use
and
we
have
a
major
variation,
so
16
standards,
let's
go
through
the
nine
standards
for
special
uses
number
one.
A
A
There's
been
testimony
that
the,
although
we're
increasing
the
size
of
the
of
the
special
use
and
and
therefore
the
intensity
of
the
special
use,
there's
actually
not
going
to
be
an
increase
in
either
staff
or
students,
and
so
we're
not
increasing
anything
beyond
what
is
there
now
and
so
I.
Don't
believe
that
that
will
cause
that
there
will
be
any
negative
cumulative
effect
from
that,
so
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
four:
it
does
not
interfere
with
or
diminish
the
value
of
property
in
the
neighborhood.
A
From
testimony
there
is
some
comments
that
they
are
a
good
neighbor
to
the
neighborhood
and
a
better
neighbor
once
they
sell
their
parking
problem
and
that
certainly
a
business
that
provides
a
valuable
service
increases
the
value
of
property
in
the
neighborhood,
so
that
standard
has
been
met,
number
five:
it
can
be
adequately
served
by
public
facilities
and
services.
It
is
not
asking
for
more
use
of
any
facility
services
that
the
city
provides,
so
that
standard
certainly
has
been
met.
Number
six.
It
does
not
cause
undue
traffic
congestion;
it
certainly
doesn't
cause
undue
traffic
congestion.
A
There's
been
no
testimony
that
there's
a
problem
with
pickups
or
drop-offs
or
any
of
that
sort.
It's
really
sort
of
a
parking
issue
which
the
applicants
have
agreed
to
look
at
and
try
to
solve.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met,
number
seven.
It
preserves
significant
historical
and
architectural
resources.
A
This
is
a
quirky
building
and
I.
Think
that
addition
is
a
is
a
nice
addition
to
the
quirk
of
it.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
eight.
It
preserves
significant
natural
and
environmental
features,
which
is
not
applicable
and
number
nine.
It
complies
with
all
other
applicable
regulations
of
the
district
and
which
is
located
and
other
applicable
ordinances,
except
to
the
extent
such
regulations
have
been
modified
through
the
planned
development
process
or
the
grant
of
a
variation
which
it
has
so
that
standard
has
been
met.
A
A
Okay,
well,
we
didn't
talk
about
business
hours,
so
I
don't
know
so
I'm
gonna
say
it's
a
6
a.m.
sure
my.
H
I
That
we
want
to
go
further
in
in
in
suggesting
encouraging
that
additional
conversations
are
had.
You
know,
with
the
aldermen,
with
other
property
owners
in
the
corridor
to
see
what
kind
of
creative
arrangements
can
be
made
here,
so
that
all
that
parking
is
not
absorbed.
On
the
you
know,
adjacent
residential
blocks
I'm
not
sure
how
exactly
to
phrase
that,
to
what
extent
we
want
to
condition
it,
but
I
think
it's
an
important
piece.
I
think.
A
H
D
I
P
A
And
with
the
vote
of
6
to
0,
you
go
to
City
Council,
with
a
recommendation
for
approval
for
your
special
use.
Let's
talk
about
your
standards
for
variations.
Now
there
are
seven
of
those
number
one.
The
requested
variation
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
impact
on
the
youth
enjoyment
or
property
values
of
adjoining
neighborhoods.
We've
not
heard
any
testimony
that
there
will
that
there
is
an
adverse
effect.
In
fact,
the
testimony
of
the
neighbors
is
that
they
are
a
good
neighbor
and
that
they
add
value
to
the
neighborhood.
A
The
also
the
addition
is
so
small
and
the
alley
side
such
that
it
won't
actually
have
any
effect
on
the
neighbors,
so
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
two:
the
requested
variation
is
in
keeping
with
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
One
of
the
intents
of
the
zoning
warrants
is
certainly
to
allow
businesses
to
expand
to
meet
their
current
needs
based
on
their
changing
clientele
and
the
needs
of
their
clients.
A
A
It's
actually
as
I've
heard
staff
tell
it's
strange
to
have
a
side
alley
on
a
business
on
a
business
lot
yeah
and
a
lot
that
a
business
is
on
and
so
that
side
yard
setback
for
a
business
in
a
residential
neighborhood
is
15
feet
versus
the
six
versus
five
foot
for
a
residential
for
a
house
in
that
same
area,
and
so
the
ability
for
them
to
be
able
to
expand
to
meet
their
needs
is
severely
limited.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
I.
C
A
Put
number
for
the
property
owner
would
suffer
a
particular
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
as
distinguished
from
a
mere
inconvenience
if
the
strict
letter
of
the
regulations
will
be
to
be
carried
out,
I
don't
believe
that
they
would
be
able
to
add
this
area
under
any
circumstances.
Sorry,
if
this
strict
letter
of
the
regulations
were
to
be
carried
out-
and
so
that
actually
is,
is
more
of
a
hardship
since
they
won't
be
able
to
provide
that
indoor
space
for
their
students,
which
is
necessary,
so
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
five.
A
The
purpose
of
the
variation
is
not
based
exclusively
upon
a
desire
to
extract
additional
income
from
the
property
or
there
is
a
public
benefit.
I
forget:
are
you
guys
a
501
C
3?
You
are
a
501
C
3,
so
they
have
no
to
make
any
income,
but
there
is
certainly
a
benefit
to
having
a
a
daycare
in
the
neighborhood
that
provides
care
for
disadvantaged
and
some
lower
income.
Children
and
having
the
right
sort
of
resources
for
kids
is
important.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
A
Don't
know,
I
can't
remember
how
long
this
building
has
been
in
this
location,
but
certainly
longer
than
then
when
the
40-plus
years,
so
the
property
was
plaited
and
zoned
long
before
that,
and
so
I
don't
believe
that
they've
had
any
any
part
in
creating
the
difficulty,
so
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
seven.
A
The
requested
variation
requires
the
least
deviation
from
the
applicable
regulation
among
the
feasible
options
identified
before
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
they've
been
able
to
to
not
increase
their
impervious
surface
by
taking
an
impervious
surface
and
just
putting
a
roof
over
on
it,
which
is
the
net
of
net
the
same
thing.
So
that
certainly
is
the
minimum
change
necessary.
They've
also
managed
to
put
it
on
a
side
of
the
building
that
will
effect
none
of
the
neighbors
and
just
put
it
in
a
location
on
the
alley
which
has
no
direct
impact
to
anybody.
A
C
In
the
matter,
718
zmj
be
zero.
One,
zero
nine
regarding
the
property
at
2200,
Main
Street
that
we
recommend
bit
City
Council,
grant
the
major
variation
major
variations
requested,
subject
to
the
condition
that
the
property
be
developed
in
accordance
with
the
documents
and
testimony
submitted.
Second,.
A
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members,
and
members
of
the
public
chris
yella
Lopez
property
owner
applies
for
major
zoning
relief
to
confer
to
existing
flat
a
three
dwelling
unit.
Multi-Family
dwelling
within
the
r5
residential
district.
The
applicant
request
variations
for
a
lot
area
of
3993
square
feet
where
4,500
square
feet
is
required.
A
lot
width
of
33
feet
where
50
feet
is
required,
provide
three
offsite
parking
spaces
where
four
are
required
for
a
3d
Welling
unit.
F
Multi-Family
dwelling
within
the
r5
district
city
staff
and
dapper
both
recommend
approval
of
the
requests,
a
summary
of
the
development
and
the
requirements
are
in
the
staff
report.
In
addition
to
the
variation
application,
zoning
analysis,
plateau
survey
plans
and
then
additional
information
about
the
property
concludes
a
summary
of
the
staff
memo
and
we're
available
for
questions.
Thank
you.
P
There
was
a
fire
in
November
and
the
basement
of
my
apartment,
so
when
these
spectres
came
over
to
check
it
out
after
it
was
clean,
they
recommended
that
I
apply
for
a
legal
unit
because
he
had
the
space
at
two
exits:
the
windows
so
and
originally
I
applied
for
a
two-bedroom
apartment,
but
apparently
because
of
the
units
of
water
they
are
needed.
I
will
need
to
change
the
pipe
system
or
something
water.
A
P
Is
what
is
services
right
so
then,
what
I
decided
to
do
is
to
apply
just
like
for
one
bedroom
apartment
and
instead
of
having
two
but
two
bathrooms.
It
would
only
be
one
and
the
other
half
of
the
basement
would
be
used
as
storage
and
there's
a
laundry
room
there
and
electrical
system
and
then
so
I'm
applied
for
one
bedroom
apartment
in
the
basement.
How.
P
Much
yeah,
what's
the
rent,
they
pay
me
1200.
Sorry
did
you
say.
A
P
P
P
I
P
H
H
P
I
C
C
P
I
Q
A
F
F
The
applicant
has
agreed
just
to
an
agreement
with
the
city
to
limit
the
affordability
level
for
a
minimum
duration
of
10
years,
so
that
it's
affordable
to
someone
who's,
making
a
maximum
of
80
percent
of
the
area
median
income,
and
there
are
tables
that
will
spell
out
what
the
maximum
rent
levels
can
be
for
that,
depending
on
bedroom,
size
and
and
family
size.
For
that,
but.
A
A
So
is
that
something
you
and
I
will
consider
you
would
be
amenable
to
because
sure
you
know
that
here
in
Evanston,
we've
got
a
problem
with
affordable
housing
and
as
we're
allowing
people
to
add
housing
to
their
locations.
We'd
like
to
get
as
much
of
affordable
housing
as
well
and
I.
Think
yours
is
an
excellent
location
for
that,
and
because
there
are
so
many
units
like
yours
mm-hmm
when
we
start
to
apply
that,
give
that
to
you
right
the
ability
to
put
a
unit
in
the
basement.
A
P
H
H
P
P
P
A
A
A
A
A
We've
set
that
precedent
recently
with
a
couple
of
these
applications
where
people
are
getting
variances
to
add,
either
to
make
their
coach
house
bigger
or
those
sorts
of
things
or
to
build
the
one
last
week
in
your
neck
of
the
woods
right
that,
where
they
put
it
in
the
basement,
where
we
make
those
affordable
units,
so
I
think
that
there
that
there's
sort
of
a
precedent
that
we've
we've
started
there
and
I
think
that
we
should
continue
down
that
path.
I
agree.
D
C
J
Well,
we
we
have
to
have
in
consideration
the
proposal
for
affordable
unit,
because
these
are
kind
of
a
waste
nicely
into
the
suggestion,
and
that
point
the
other
thing
that
it
is
it's
the
one
of
the
things
that
the
parking
streetcars
are
good
for
three
very
units,
no
matter
we
prefer
to
have
four,
that's
that's
for
sure,
but
still
three
cars
for
three
dwelling
units.
Yes
well,.
C
K
C
I'm,
and
so
even
with
that
condition,
I'm
still
in
the
fence,
I
think
the
parking
thing
is
a
big
problem,
yes,
sort
of
like
mentally
three
units.
Three
parking
spaces
seems
like
enough,
but
the
way
it
works
in
the
ordinance
is
you
look
at
the
number
of
bedrooms
right
so
for
a
two-bedroom
unit.
The
assumption
in
the
zoning
ordinance
is
that
two-bedroom
unit
accounts.
C
Yeah
so
now
you've
got
two
two-bedroom
units
in
the
in
this
building
and
one
one-bedroom
unit,
and
that's
why
it
would
require
not
for
cars
but
for
2/3
cars.
If,
if
you
will
so
it's
not
it's
it's
it's
it's
more
than
just
one.
Car
and
they've
already
got
three
cars
and
it
would
be
a
fair
assumption
that
someone
else
moving
into
that
basement
unit
would
have
another
car
so
I'm
guessing
there
will
be
four
cars
that
said,
there's
testimony
that
there's
adequate
street
parking,
but
it's
not
about
necessarily
whether
it's
this
adequate
parking.
I
I
It's
got
in
my
mind.
The
location
of
this
I,
hear
your
points
and
I
understand,
I,
understand
them,
but
I
think
the
location
of
it
relative
to
the
nearby
train
station
is
something
to
be
considered.
I
also
think,
even
aside
from
conditioning
this
is
an
affordable
unit.
You
know,
according
to
the
city
standards
of
affordability
under
ten
years,
just
by
creating
additional
dwelling
unit
in
the
in
a
bed
you
know
in
the
basement
is
by
nature
going
to
be
more
affordable
than
a
lot
of
the
you
know.
D
E
Correct,
but
not
not
just
in
an
unsafe
manner,
you
could
consider
her
son
that
was
living
in
that
apartment,
also
as
a
separate
family
already.
So,
if
she's
bringing
it
into
compliance
with
the
city,
if
we
attach
the
amendment
that
she
uses
that
as
affordable
housing,
which
now
helps
out
the
city
by
creating
that
space
I
think
that's
a
more
of
a
public
benefit
in
the
end
I.
So.
C
H
C
A
B
Good
thing
to
point
out
is
that
city
staff
is
currently
looking
at
revisions
to
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance.
Some
of
those
revisions
include
that
for
any
required
affordable
unit,
as
required
by
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance.
So
that
would
not
be
this
project,
but
any
affordable
unit
would
not
have
a
parking
requirement
at
all
just
to
take
into
account
interesting.
B
H
A
Right
so
I
think
I
know
where
everybody
stands
so
I'm
going
to
address
these
seven
major
standards
standards
for
a
major
variation,
because
that's
what
we're
dealing
with
here,
okay,
so
number
one.
The
requested
variation
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
impact
on
the
youth
enjoyment
or
property
values
of
adjoining
properties,
since
this
particular
unit
would
go
into
the
basement
of
an
existing
two
flat.
There's
no
additional
lot
area.
That's
taken
up!
There's
no
additions
to
the
building.
I!
Don't
think
that
there's
any
effect
on
the
neighbors
on
the
adjacent
neighbors.
A
There's
no
change
in
the
lot
area.
There'll
be
no
perception
of
the
neighbors
that
there's
a
decrease
there
and
that
there's
a
that's
somehow
substandard
that
the
lot
width
is
somehow
substandard,
and
so
I
do
believe
that
that
standard.
So
from
that
perspective,
that
standard
has
been
met
from
a
parking
from
the
parking
requirement.
There's
been
testimony
that
not
all
three
spots
in
the
back
are
used
right
now
that
there
is
one
car
parking
in
a
two-car
garage
and
that
the
other
tenants
and
the
other
owner
family
member
parked
out
front
for
their
convenience.
A
So
there
will
be
no
change
from
that
perspective
on
having
an
as
to
having
an
adverse
effect
on
then
on
the
neighborhood.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
two:
the
requested
variation
is
in
keeping
with
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
The
zoning
ordinance
certainly
is,
is
trying
to
provide
for
housing
adequate
housing
throughout
the
city.
I
A
A
A
And
if
she
was
to
make
this
bigger
and
put
the
second
unit
in
a
different
location
that
would
have
a
bigger
impact
on
the
neighbors,
so
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
four:
the
property
owner
would
suffer
a
particular
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
as
distinguished
from
a
mere
inconvenience.
If
the
strict
letter
sorry.
C
A
You
number
four:
the
property
owner
would
suffer
a
particular
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
as
distinguished
from
a
mere
inconvenience
if
the
strict
letter
of
the
regulations
or
be
to
be
carried
out
again,
the
the
the
building
can't
be
altered
to
add
that
third
unit,
without
causing
other
problems
from
a
zoning
perspective,
and
so
I,
do
think
that
there
is
a
practical
difficulty
here
with
with
creating
a
third
unit
in
another
location,
so
I
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
five.
A
The
purpose
of
the
variation
is
not
based
exclusively
upon
a
desire
to
extract
additional
income
from
the
property,
or
there
is
a
public
benefit.
There
is
testimony
that
there
there
is
certainly
a
desire
to
get
additional
income
from
the
property,
but
the
public
benefit
here
would
be
that
the
unit
would
be
affordable
unit
as
determined
by
the
affordable
housing
coordinator
with
the
city
of
Evanston
for
ten
years,
and
so
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
From
that
perspective,
I'm.
C
A
Six,
the
alleged
difficulty
or
hardship
has
not
been
created
by
any
person
having
an
interest
in
the
property.
The
owner
has
indicated
that
she's
lived
there
for
thirty
years
and
that
the
property
has
not
in
that
time
and
that
it
was
plaited
and
the
building
located
prior
to
her
owning
the
property.
So
I
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met
and
number
seven.
A
The
requested
variation
requires
the
least
deviation
from
the
applicable
regulation
among
the
feasible
options
identified
before
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals,
certainly
adding
a
unit
in
an
affordable
housing
unit
into
an
existing
building,
where
we
can
actually
take
advantage
of
infrastructure
and
walls
and
ceilings
and
roofs,
and
all
that
good
stuff
is
the
least
very,
is
the
least
deviation
necessary
in
order
to
be
able
to
provide
that
additional
unit.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met
so
with
that
I.
D
D
I
The
the
law
of
supply
and
demand
is
going
to
take
care
of
that.
If
there's
no
parking
on
the
street,
then
all
of
a
sudden
the
garage
becomes
an
attractive
option.
If
there's
a
parking
on
the
street
and
she
you
know
she
or
her
tenants
see
that
as
a
more
attractive
option,
I
don't
think,
that's
a
condition
that
we
need
to
apply
excellent.
D
C
A
H
B
The
applicant
requests
a
22
foot,
22
foot
rear
yards
up
back
for
a
three
storey:
stair
yard
obstruction,
where
twenty
two
point
five
feet
is
required:
zoning
code
Section
six,
four
one:
nine
and
an
increase
of
zero
additional
parking
spaces
where
three
additional
parking
spaces
are
required
for
a
total
of
one
parking
space
on
site
where
five
parking
spaces
are
required
for
three
unit:
multi,
multiple
family
residence,
zoning
code,
section
616,
three,
five
table:
16
B,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
is
the
recommending
body
and
the
City
Council
is
the
determining
body.
For
this
case.
B
B
Got
withdrawn,
the
previous
proposal
included
adding
three
parking
spaces
so
that
there
was
no
parking
variation
requested
for
the
number
of
spaces
and
there
were
variations
for
the
drive,
aisle
I
believe
and
the
project
proceeded
to
the
dapper
committee,
where
multiple
neighbors
attended
and
were
quite
opposed
to
the
project
as
it
was,
and
instead
requested
that
the
applicant
try
again
with
no
added
parking.
So.
R
A
R
Name
is
Shawn
Jones
I'm,
the
attorney
representing
the
property
owner.
My
address
for
my
office
at
7:08,
Church,
Street,
Suite,
235,
downtown
Evanston,
602
o1.
This
project
has
been
student
housing
for
decades.
This
is
not
a
single-family
home.
This
has
been
rented
to
students
for
at
least
20
years.
We
have
been
dealing
with
the
city
and
we
are
currently
in
the
Skokie
on
some
violation
issues.
The
city
Michele
Mason
cup,
suggested
that
we
need
to
either
apply
as
a
rooming
house
or
apply
as
a
multi-family.
This
is
our
five,
so
it
supports
a
three
flat.
R
We
determined
to
convert
this
to
a
three
flat,
we're
taking
what
was
nine
bedrooms,
dropping
it
to
a
two
three
to
three
different
units,
so
there
will
be
seven
bedrooms
and
this
property.
This
is
obviously
very
close
to
Northwestern
campus.
The
current
students
don't
have
any
issue
with
parking
right
now.
There
is
one
spot
in
front,
it's
really
more
like
one
and
a
half
and
they
can
squeeze
two
cars
in
there
if
need
be,
but
there
is
no
issue
with
parking.
R
Currently,
we
did
come
forward
with
a
an
alternative
plan
and
we're
going
to
squeeze
the
parking
needed
into
this
spot
by
putting
an
aisle
on
the
other
side
taking
out
the
existing.
We
were
going
to
be
very
close
on
permeable
surface
now
we
have
no
issues
with
perennial
sources:
permeable
surface,
as
indicated
at
dapper,
the
neighbors,
who
are
very
much
opposed
to
the
parking
configuration
because
driving
back
behind
would
put
headlights
shining
right
into
their
property,
and
they
did
not
like
that
at
all.
R
R
The
configuration
of
this
property
is
such
with
no
alley
behind
it,
with
no
parking
other
than
the
one
spot
upfront
available
and
at
all.
It
has
always
been
this
way
on.
One
side
is
another
multi-family
student,
home
I.
Believe
it's
a
rooming
house
and
on
the
other
side
we
have
another
multi-family
condo
development.
This
is
sandwiched
in
between
two
multi
families.
It
is
right
on
the
northwestern
campus
and
has
been
rented
to
students
for
at
least
twenty
years
as.
C
R
Repair
is
not
excessive.
The
conversion
is
what
we
need
to
do.
We
need
to
take
the
current
property
and
convert
it.
There
are
some
cosmetic
repairs
to
the
exterior.
You
have
a
list
of
the
repairs
to
the
exterior
one
of
the
conditions
that
dapper
was
to
provide
you
with
that
list.
There
have
been
concerns
from
the
neighbors
about
the
condition
exterior
and
we
are
correcting
all
of
those
issues.
What's
the
cost
of
that
I,
don't
know
the
cost
of
that.
R
C
R
I
we
have
been
working
very
closely
with
Angelique
Schnoor
and
the
city
property
standards
I
meet
with
her
regularly
to
discuss
this
property.
We
believe
this
is
the
best
solution,
because
it
will
be
completely
rehabbed
we're
taking
two
bedrooms
away
to
converting
them
to
kitchens
we're
adding
the
stairwell
on
back.
That's
required
by
a
fire
code.
Stairwell
in
order
to
be
compliant
does
extend
six
inches
closer
to
the
rear
property
line,
which
is
one
of
our
variations,
but
it
now
would
empty
into
the
backyard
and
not
into
a
paved
area.
Can.
D
R
Was
a
side
yard
yeah
we
had
to
make
it
narrower
than
is
required
by
code.
It
would
have
had
to
be
nine
feet
instead
of
twelve
feet,
so
we
would
have
had
a
driveway
on
the
side
yard.
That's
how
we
would
have
gotten
back.
We
did
not
need
an
easement
to
take
a
part
of
their
property,
but
they
didn't
want
to
sidewalk
driveway
back
there
either.
No.
D
R
R
R
R
H
H
R
R
C
R
A
R
D
A
R
R
R
There
were
multiple,
so
initially
the
case
that
was
followed
by
the
city
was
to
permit
access
to
the
property
for
inspections.
I
became
involved
access
was
granted,
there's
been
no
problem
with
access.
Since
then
the
city
has
had
constant
access
whenever
they
asked
for
it
since
then.
So
that's
the
case,
but
growing
out
of
that
case
was
the
city's
desire
to
take
this
property
and
put
it
in
a
legal
status.
So
we
have
been
continuing
with
this
process
since
I
became
involved
when.
C
C
C
D
H
I
Q
Q
That
is,
is
that
the
debt
dated
in
poor
condition
without
sprinklers?
It's
it's
a
major
concern,
and
you
know
this
has
nothing
to
do
about
the
fact
that
it's
it's
occupied
by
students,
if
anything,
that
makes
it
even
more
concerning
from
a
life
safety
perspective.
So
so
that
is
is
something
that
is
is
on
all
of
our
minds.
Q
Q
Also,
if
you
put
a
surface
in
place
where
water
was
running
off,
that
actual
backyard
is
slightly
higher
than
our
front
entrance,
so
they
would
have
to
put
in
adequate
training
which
I
think
would
be
cost
prohibitive.
You
know,
in
general,
we're
we're
very,
very
supportive
of
what
is
being
proposed.
I,
applaud
your
efforts
to
look
beyond
the
attorney
for
ownership
and
and
speak
directly
to
ownership,
because
because
this
is
a
condition
which
which
we've
seen
has
has
just
lasted
far
too
long,
the
city
has
gotten
a
runaround.
Q
Q
I
would
I
would
encourage
you
when
you
have
a
conversation
with
ownership.
I
would
encourage
you
to
find
out
who
actually
is
going
to
be
doing
the
work.
Is
it
qualified
workers
or
is
it
ownership,
where
they're
just
bringing
in
a
couple
of
handy
men
to
do
the
work?
That's
what
I
think
we
have
seen
in
the
past
and
it's
been
it's
been.
You
know
a
little
bit
disturbing
the
last
question
that
I
would.
A
Q
I
think
it
would
be
very,
very
helpful
if
the
architect
came
back
with
some
some
sketches
that
show
what
is
envisioned
for
for
the
property,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
the
back
stairwell.
You
know
it
obviously
is
needed.
We
have
no
problems
with
a
back
with
a
back
stairwell,
but
obviously
we
we
want
it
to
fit.
The
the
you
know
hopefully
provide
good
aesthetics,
it
won't
well
it
we.
A
Q
Building
is
now
15
years
old
and
I
would
say
pretty
early
on
there
was
was
requests
to
repaint
the
building
to
fix
rotted
wood,
you
know
and-
and
they
have
done
they've
done
some
things
they've
they've
painted,
but
it's
it's
you
know,
painting
the
pig
so
to
speak
and
and
the
work
that
is
now
proposed
I
think
is,
is
going
to
be.
You
know
if
it
truly
is
as
extensive
as
they
are
saying.
I
think
that
you
know
it
will
resolve
a
lot
of
problems
and
it
will
position
this
property.
Q
You
know
in
a
long-term
manner,
but
but
again
you
know,
the
concern
is
that
that
history
has
shown
that
painting
the
pig
is
just
that
it's
slapping
paint
on
okay
and
not
necessarily
taking
everything
away.
As
you
know,
the
city
knows
they
had
a
carpenter
bee
problem
back
several
years
back,
which
it
took
a
couple
years
to
three
years
to
finally
get
resolved
and
finally,
somebody
came
along
and
and-
and
you
know,
tore
out
the
rotted
wood
where
the
bees
had
made
their
home
and
knock
on
wood
and
say
Pereira's.
Q
Okay,
we
haven't
had
any
problems
this
year
or
I,
don't
even
believe
last
year.
So
so
there
are
some
positives,
I
mean
you
know.
We
want
them
to
succeed.
We
we
aren't
here.
Okay,
you
know
with
a
hammer
saying
this:
is
you
know
this
is
a
nightmare?
What
they're
proposing
now
we
we
want
it
to
be.
You
know
aesthetically
pleasing,
to
compliment
the
neighborhood,
but
we
also
want
Life
Safety
redress.
Q
Everything
else
is
student,
housing
or
adjacent
us
to
the
south
of
us
is
also
I,
believe
eight
condominium
units,
and-
and
you
know,
then
you
start
moving
into
the
Kingston
condominiums,
so
so
they're
they're
not
as
as
affected.
Okay,
recognize
that,
just
because
of
the
design
of
our
bill,
we
are
front
entrance
faces
that
back
yard
right.
R
A
R
A
PDF,
okay
and
the
building
will
be
sprinklered,
it's
gonna
be
required,
and
life
safety
from
requires
that
and,
if
necessary,
will
have
to
change
the
water
service.
We
are
aware
that,
and
also
I
would
be
amenable
to
requiring
the
permits
be
pulled
by
date,
certain
and
construction
completed
by
a
date
certain
that's
what
I'm
offering
today
I
don't
know
if
right.