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Hollister City Council Meeting December 5, 2022
A
A
C
B
D
B
E
C
F
Thank
you
mayor,
just
a
request
for
a
minor
correction
to
the
minutes,
and
it's
as
it
relates
to
G2
the
informational
report
that
I
provided
and
it
should
be
on
the
packet
page
11,
and
it's
on
line
seven
of
the
first
or
the
actually
the
paragraph
and
that
that
line
begins
with
storing
of
boats,
recreational
vehicles
and
cards
I'm
going
to
recommend
that
cards
be
amended
to
cars.
Please,
and
that
would
conclude
my
request
for
Amendment.
Thank
you.
Man
thank.
C
F
F
Thank
you,
mayor,
Chief,
I
do
have
just
a
handful
of
questions.
So
what
is
it
going
to
cost
the
city
and
staff
time
to
actually
provide
the
data?
It
looks
like
it's
it's
a
five-year
window
as
is
listed,
but
really
it's
a
10-year
window,
because
the
data
initial
data
was
from
2017
to
2021
or
through
2021
and
then
2022
through
2026.
So
clearly,
there's
going
to
be
a
staff
cost
to
do
that.
Work
and
so
I'd
like
to
know
what
that
is.
Please.
H
F
F
H
F
F
I
B
We'll
now
move
to
public
comment.
This
is
the
time
for
anyone
in
the
audience
to
speak
on
any
item
not
on
the
agenda
and
with
the
subject
matter,
jurisdiction
of
the
council.
Speaker
cards
are
available
in
the
lobby
and
are
to
be
completed
and
given
to
the
city
clerk
before
speaking
when
the
city
clerk
calls
your
name,
please
come
to
the
podium,
say
your
name
and
city
for
the
record
and
speak
to
the
city
council.
If
you
are
joining
us
by
Zoom,
please
click
on
the
bottom
of
your
screen.
B
To
raise
your
hand
if
you're
joining
us
by
zoom
using
a
cell
phone,
please
press
star,
nine
each
speaker
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes:
the
maximum
30
minutes
per
subject.
Please
note:
state
law
prohibits
the
city
council
from
the
discussion
taking
the
action
on
any
item
not
on
the
agenda.
Do
we
have
any
speaker
cards?
Yes,.
J
But
but
the
reason
why
I'm
here
today
is
because,
because
I
recently
painted
a
mural
on
my
own
on
our
at
my
home,
like
on
the
garage
wall
on
the
fence,
but
but
as
of
today,
the
police
department,
the
issued
a
warning
of
code
in
forcing
and
violation
of
presence
of
graffiti
in
in
our
presence
of
graffiti
and
violation
of
the
city
codes.
But
the
definition
of
graffiti
is
unauthorized.
J
I
K
K
K
For
the
second
time,
though,
the
city
council
adopted
an
ordinance
amending
the
existing
zoning
ordinance
to
allow
for
duplexes
in
the
R1
District,
which
conforms
to
the
requirements
of
sb1,
so
that
is
already
in
effect
and
then
on
November
17th,
the
Planning
Commission
adopted
a
resolution
recommending
that
the
city
council
adopt
the
new
chapter
chapter
17.26
to
unit
residential
developments
in
urban
lot.
Splits.
K
The
purpose
of
Senate
Bill
9
is
to
increase
density
and
the
variety
of
housing
types
available
throughout
the
state
of
California
sb9
applies
only
to
single-family
residential
Zone
properties,
but
there
are
some
exceptions.
Some
of
them
include
if
it's
an
environmentally
sensitive
area,
if
there
are
hazards
that
cannot
be
mitigated
properly,
if
it's
a
historic
property
or
historic
district
and
then
if
there
were
tenants
previously
located
on
the
property
or
if
there
are
rent
controlled
units
on
the
property
in
those
cases,
sb9
would
not
apply
to
would
not
be
valid.
K
So
there's
two
types
of
developments
that
are
allowed
under
sb9.
One
is
two
unit
housing
and
the
other
is
an
urban
lot
split.
So
what
a
two
unit
Housing
Development
is
is
that
on
a
property
you
can
have
two
primary
dwelling
units,
so
you
can
have
your
house
and
you
can
have
another
house
within
one
one
primary
lot.
You
can
also
have
a
if,
if
it
has
not
been
split
before
you
can
also
have
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
or
a
junior
accessory
dwelling
unit.
K
An
urban
lot
split
is
when
you
take
the
existing
property
and
split
it
to
create
two
new
parcels,
and
then
you
can
have
a
total
of
four
dwelling
units
combined
within
those
two
Parcels.
So
there's
a
just
a
small
example
on
the
screen.
Where
you
can
see
kind
of
the
difference
of
what
can
happen,
you
can
have
two
attached.
You
can
have
to
detach
per
lot,
but
really
someone
gets
to
play
with
how
they're
going
to
put
the
two
the
two
units
on
their
parcel
for
two
unit
housing
developments.
K
The
city
has
to
review
them
under
Senate,
Bill,
9
ministerially,
so
there's
no
discretion
that
we're
allowed
to
to
have
the
state
has
exempt
them
from
the
California
Environmental
Quality
Act
and
the
state
gives
us
the
minimum
setbacks.
So
they
are
different
from
our
setbacks
for
single
family
dwellings.
So
it's
a
minimum
four
foot
interior,
so
side
yard
and
a
minimum
10
foot
rear
yard.
So
those
are
different
from
our
setbacks
for
a
one
single
family
dwelling.
K
Again,
the
units
can
be
attached
or
detached.
They
have
to
provide
a
minimum
of
one
parking
space
off
off
street
parking
space,
and
there
are
a
few
things
that
the
city
can
impose
if
we
wanted
to.
Some
of
those
restrictions
include
restricting
short-term
rentals
and
providing
design
some
design
standards
that
are
objective,
that
the
developer
or
homeowner
would
have
to
follow
for
urban
lot.
Slits
again,
that's
this!
That's
taking
the
existing
property
and
dividing
it
into
two
one
parcel.
K
Should
the
One
requirement
is
that
one
parcel
can't
be
like
has
to
be
forty
percent
of
the
size
of
the
original
parcel.
So
you
can't
have
a
very
small
Remnant
parcel
and
a
large
parcel
the
property
owner
if
they're
choosing
to
do
an
urban
lot
split.
This
is
different
from
the
two
unit
residential
split,
but
in
this
case
they
have
to
occupy
one
of
the
units
for
three
years.
K
They're
only
allowed
a
maximum
of
two
dwelling
units
as
we've
drafted
in
the
ordinance,
so
they
get
two
existing
primary
dwelling
units
when
there's
a
lot
split,
but
they
can't
add
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
and
all
of
the
setbacks
and
requirements
for
two
unit.
Residential
developments
applies
to
this
as
well.
K
K
We,
as
part
of
this,
have
also
established
application.
Submittal
requirements,
we've
established
a
clear
review
procedures,
so
both
the
city
and
the
applicant
would
be
aware
of
that
and
two
things
which
are
allowed,
which
we
are
allowed
to
require,
which
is
not.
If
we
didn't
have
the
ordinance
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
impose,
but
one
is
requiring
the
affidavit.
K
By
adopting
this
ordinance,
the
city
can
do
a
few
things
that
we
otherwise
wouldn't
be
able
to
do,
which
is
to
restrict
restrict
the
short-term
rental
to
require
the
affidavit
and
the
deed
restriction
for
the
urban
lot
split
and
to
include
the
design
standards
within
the
ordinance
that
we
can
then
apply
to
these
developments.
As
you
may
developments,
these
requirements,
don't
conflict
with
state
law,
but
if
we
don't
have
them
in
our
ordinance,
we
can't
impose
them.
K
So,
for
in
the
ordinance,
for
example,
if
you're
not
splitting
your
property,
we
have
a
section
on
Accessory
dwelling
units
and
we're
saying
you
can
have
in
addition
to
your
two
units.
You
can
have
one.
So
if
you
have
your
existing
property,
your
garage
is
converged
conver.
Your
garage
is
converted
to
a
junior
accessory
dwelling
unit,
and
then
you
want
to
build
that.
Second,
primary
dwelling,
you
can,
if
you
have
an
existing
Junior
accessory
dwelling
unit
and
you're
splitting
your
lot,
then
you
couldn't
have
it.
K
K
Total
units
between
the
two
Parcels
so
two
on
each
and
you
get
to
choose
how
you
want
to
do
it.
You
could
do
two
on
one.
You
could
do
two
on
the
other
or
two
on
one
and
an
accessory
dwelling
and
one
on
the
other.
You
kind
of
get
to
play
with
the
numbers,
but
you're
capped
at
two
for
urban
lot
slots.
Okay,.
K
K
K
L
Sorry
so
for
adus,
which
are
different
than
sv9
units
and
both
laws
kind
of
are
active
at
the
same
time,
but
for
existing
adus
or
IDs
that
are
found
by
code
enforcement.
Or
what
have
you?
We
are
helping.
People
go
through
the
process
as
long
as
it's
an
Adu
that
can
be
or
if
they
had.
Let's
say
they
had
their
garage
and
it
wasn't
converted
and
they
wanted
to
build
the
exact
Adu
that
they
have.
They
could
go
through
the
process,
so
we're
helping
people
go
through
the
process
and
recording
for
adus.
L
We
record
a
deed
restriction
that
essentially
just
says
no
short-term
rentals.
They
follow
the
law
and
then
for
j80s.
It
requires
an
owner
occupancy
and
those
are
the
restrictions
that
are
in
the
state
law
anyway,
for
adus
sb9
units,
the
primary
units
will
be
kind
of
treated
as
if
they
were
single,
family
or
multi-family.
They'll
pay,
full
impact
fees,
80s
are
a
little
different
and
that
the
size
limits
are
less,
but
they
also
have
some
impact
fee
waivers
under
state
law.
L
B
C
Thank
you,
I'm
just
curious.
What's
the
rationale
behind
the
deed
restriction?
Why
would
we
I
mean
it
if
they
split
it,
they're
not
going
to
split
it
again
like
we
know
that
is
the
deed
restriction
just
to
ensure
that
we
have
something
on
file
saying
it
was
already
split,
so
we
don't
split
it
again,
correct.
K
K
K
So
the
four
foot
and
the
ten
foot
are
greatly
reduced
depending
on
the
plan
development
that
you're
in
or
the
the
R1
zoning
District
or
the
west
of
Fairview.
There
are
all
different
setbacks,
but
we
are
typically
at
six
to
15
to
20
in
the
rear,
six
on
the
side
15
to
20
in
the
rear,
but
some
plan
developments
have
A
reduced
setbacks.
K
Well,
the
plan
development.
They
got
a
special.
They
went
through
the
process
to
get
their
own
special
things,
so
they're
all
different,
but
if
that
is
some,
we
are
overhauling
the
entire
zoning
ordinance.
So
if
you're
thinking
that
you
would
like
to
reduce
setbacks
further
in
the
side
and
rear,
that's
something
we
can
still
look
at
as
part
of
the
zoning
ordinance
overhaul.
K
Why
no
short-term
rentals,
so
it
so
really.
The
purpose
of
Senate
Bill
9
is
to
provide
housing
types
and
a
variety
of
Housing
and
increased
density
to
provide
more
affordable
by
Nature
housing
for
the
city
and
throughout
the
city
of
California.
If
you
allow
it
to
be
an
Airbnb,
it's
not
affordable
housing,
it's
getting
rented
at
a
daily
weekly
rate,
and
then
the
person
turns
over
again
and
again
and
again
so
by
prohibiting
that
we're
asking
that
this
be
used
as
what
is
intended
is
to
provide
additional
housing
for
residents
in
the
city.
M
L
If
I
might
just
add
really
quickly
to
that,
the
purpose
for
that
restriction-
that's
also
in
the
state
law-
is
that
what
you
don't
want
is
these
are
ministerial
approvals
right?
You
don't
want
someone
to
come
and
abuse
the
ministerial
approval
to
subdivide
a
large
lot
into
two
and
then
into
two
and
then
into
two
and
then
into
two.
That's
when
you
get
into
tentative
map
and
that's
where
the
city
has
their
own
subdivision
codes
and
processes
and
approvals.
So
sb9
is
purely
ministerial
at
the
staff
level.
K
So
the
timeline
would
be
similar
to
an
accessory
dwelling
unit,
because
that
is
also
a
ministerial
action.
They
come
in
there's
just
a
few
things.
We
can
check
off
against
it
like
if
they
came
in
and
they
had
a
two
foot
side
yard
setback.
We
could
say
this:
isn't
you
know
you
need
to
fix
this
whatever
it
is,
but
really
it's
a
staff
level
we're
not
going
to
the
Planning
Commission,
there's
really
no
conditions
of
approval.
It's
a
much
faster
process
similar
to
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
L
L
But
one
thing
that
we'd
like
to
do
is
look
back
at
our
fees
because
there
might
be
some
new
applications
under
new
state
laws
that
we
want
to
reconsider
and
reevaluate
what
those
true
costs
are,
but
the
administrative
permanent
review
as
a
staff
level
review.
So
that's
what
we'd
be
charging
for
this.
B
Thank
you
just
going
back
to
the
fees,
I
think
it's
important.
We
learn
from
the
past
where
fees
were
kept
artificially
low,
how
it
caused
problems
to
this
community.
So
it's
very
important
adus,
as
you
pointed
out,
are
at
a
lower
fee,
but
this
is
something
different
and
be
aware.
We
don't
want
to
go
down
that
path
again.
Thank
you.
All.
E
B
F
Mayor
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
the
city
hall,
the
public
hearing,
which
we've
just
now
done,
read
by
title
only
wave
full
reading
and
introduce
an
ordinance
of
the
City
of
Hollister
amending
title
17
zoning
ordinance
of
the
Hollister
municipal
code
and
schedule
a
second
reading
and
Adoption
of
the
ordinance
for
the
December
19
2022
city
council.
Meeting.
Thank.
F
F
H
H
H
That
funding
is
going
to
come
from
the
Grant
and
be
used
just
because
our
budget
doesn't
sometimes
doesn't
allow
for
the
life-saving
efforts
that
we
would
like,
and
that
would
be
to
push
forward
with
animals
that
can
be
saved
that
have
a
healthy
prognosis.
Otherwise,
but
it's
just
sometimes
more
costly,
costly
medical
procedure.
H
And
I
know
when
they
overlooked
some
of
our
processes
and
procedures.
They
wanted
to
do
more
basic
care
for
our
animals,
just
the
basic
vaccinations,
rabies,
distemper,
parvo
bodotella
and
for
our
cats
as
well,
because
right
now
within
our
budget,
it
doesn't
fit
right
now
within
our
budget,
to
offer
even
the
most
basic
Medical
Care
for
some
of
our
animals.
F
And
so
I
I
do
have
some
concerns
on
item
number
two,
even
though
I
agreed
that
the
night
kennel
should
be
closed
as
I
recall,
it
was
majority
that
wanted
those
kept
open.
So,
having
said
that,
does
the
Best
Friends
Animal
Society
have
a
a
room
to
move
on
that
so
that
that
could
be
kept
open
and
we
could
still
receive
the
grant
or
is
that
a
hard?
No.
H
So
I
think,
based
off
my
conversations
with
them.
The
only
way
we're
gonna
get
this
grant
funding
and
continue
to
be
open
to
even
more
grant.
Funding
is
by
being
open
to
these
new
processes
and
procedures,
because
they've
been
proven
to
work
and
that's
why
I
have
Lawrence
here
to
kind
of
speak
on
that
because
he's
actually
enacted
it
in
his
County
and
maybe
he
could
speak
more
to
it
and
the
effects
it
has
and.
F
Him
well
absolutely,
but
just
on
clear
that
if
we
choose
not
to
close
the
kennels
during
the
evening
hours,
the
probability
is
we
won't
receive
the
Grant
and,
if
I,
what
I
just
also
heard
you
say,
is
that
this
could
absolutely
be
a
stepping
stone
to
Future
grants
being
awarded
to
this
city
as
well.
Correct.
H
By
raising
our
Savory
and
implementing
these
new
processes
and
protocols,
we're
open
to
even
more
larger
grants
for
our
life-saving
efforts
so
we're
almost
there
we
just
kind
of
need
to
push
through
and
reevaluate
some
of
our
processes.
A
lot
of
them
are
outdated
and
with
the
data
we've
received
from
UC,
Davis
and
neighboring
agencies,
these
are
implemented
and
proven
to
work.
F
F
C
H
C
More
this
is
my
concern.
I
I,
don't
pretend
to
know
I'm,
not
an
animal
expert.
I.
Don't
pretend
to
know
the
specifics,
but
I
do
know
that
this
could
be
a
little
controversial
with
the
people
that
are
extremely
passionate
in
our
community
about
saving
the
animals
if
I'm
looking
at
it
from
a
logistics
point
of
view.
C
The
thing
that
councilmember
Tim
Burns
pointed
out
is
that
the
closing
of
the
animal
Knights
kennels
at
night
I
think
we
had
all
said
we
were.
We
were
not
in
favor
of
that.
It
was
a
little
controversial
and
I
would
just
really
like
to
hear
back
from
our
community
partners
that
are
really
passionate
about
these
topics
and
I
don't
see
them
here
tonight.
I
know
they
should
have
been
here.
C
G
Mr
councilman
is
just
in
regards
to
what
you're
just
saying
the
night
candles
were
closed
for
long
periods
of
time
when
they're
in
repair
and
closing
in
that
kennel
does
not
mean
that
people
cannot
go
to
the
shelter
during
work,
open
hours
and
turn
in
their
animals
if
they
chose.
If
they
choose
to
do
that.
Since
the
meeting
when
we
discussed
this,
the
discussion
was
to
have
a
special
meeting
in
regards
to
animal
control
and
all
the
other
issues.
G
In
regards
to
that,
we
haven't
had
that
meeting
yet
and
I
really
look
forward
to
having
that,
because
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
need
to
discuss
to
to
take
our
shelter
to
another
higher
level.
But
since
the
discussion
from
the
council
not
closing
the
shelter,
how
many,
how
many
more
animals
have
been
dropped
off
abandoned
in
the.
H
Not
approximately
10
cases,
since
Watsonville
Marina,
we
had
the
one
we
put
out
the
press
release
for
where
an
animal
was
left
in
really
poor
condition
to
suffer
throughout
the
night.
Despite
putting
up
new
signs,
we
have
sick,
kittens
being
left
and
the
they
shouldn't
be
left
or
permitted
to
stuff.
That's
something
we're
tasked
with
preventing
and
I
feel
like
we're,
just
kind
of
harboring,
an
environment
for
people
to
do
that.
C
Yeah
and
just
I
guess
one
more
thing
like
I
said:
I
I,
don't
want
to
pretend
like
I
know
and
I
can
definitely
see
your
point,
but
I
can
see
their
point
too.
That's
why
I'm
a
little
conflicted
and
I
rarely
do
this
when
I'm
sitting
up
here,
I
have
I.
Have
my
you
know,
I
know
where
I'm
at,
but
with
this
I
gotta
be
honest.
C
I'd
rather
have
a
c
have
see
us
have
that
meeting
I'd
rather
see
that
meeting
advertised
well
and
for
us
to
have
a
robust
discussion
with
the
community
and
the
partners
and
the
people
who
specialize
in
this
industry
so
that
we
can
make
a
well-informed
decision.
I
just
feel
like
if
we,
if
we
jump
the
gun
on
this,
it
might
bite
Us
in
the
long
run.
That's
that's
my
one
concern
on
this
and
again
I.
Rarely
do
that,
but
that's
where
I'm
at
with
it.
M
M
You
know,
change
is
difficult,
I
think
you
know
if
we're
all
going
towards
the
same
goal
and
that's
to
make
sure
that
our
animals
are
protected
and
there's
a
humane
way
of
making
sure
that
they're
and
if
our,
if
our
subject
matter,
experts
are
telling
us
that
the
keeping
it
open
only
adds
to
the
pain
and
suffering
you
know,
I
think
we
need
to
hear
that
and
then
we
also
have
Lawrence
from
Santa
Clara
County.
That
can
also
is
waiting
to
speak
to
us
to
also
share
in
terms
of
their
findings.
E
E
B
B
That
was
that
was
given
to
the
city
to
improve
our
shelter
for
themselves,
and
you
know
these
are
the
kind
of
things
that
keep
happening
with
some
of
these.
These
other
groups
I
think
long
term.
We
all
agree
there
has
to
be
changes,
and
if
it's
from
this
group
or
another
group
I
think
the
point
is
Implement
things
that
start
to
work
for
long
term.
B
I
can
see
why
there's
an
issue
as
far
as
the
night
drop,
because
that
can
lead
to
people
that
really
don't
care,
and
just
here
let
me
go
drop
my
animals
super
sick
and
I.
Don't
care
enough,
let
me
go
throw
them
in
there
and
head
back
out
of
town.
So
there's
a
lot
of
different
arguments
that
can
be
made.
B
I
think
it's
as
you
found
out,
Mr
presenters,
some
of
the
ideas
that
were
from
Santa
Cruz
that
really
could
have
helped
our
own
community
Now's
the
Time
to
really
start
working
on
a
thank
you
chief
for
I
know.
You've
been
working
hard
to
make
a
lot
of
these
changes
and
I.
Think
it's
important
and
I
think
the
route
you're
going
has
been
the
right
course
here
and
it's
it's
important
that
we
set
up
a
structure
that
we
have
the
foundation
that
builds
on
that
rather
than
a
lot
of
promises.
B
If
we
just
give
people
the
money,
they'll
fix
something
then
they're
gone
the
next
day,
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
hearing
the
ideas
from
them
and
including
a
lot
I
would
like
to
hear
as
everyone
pointing
out
here
tonight
is:
let's
hear
from
some
of
the
other
groups
as
far
as
Santa
Cruz,
what
they're
doing
I'm
sure
they're
doing
very
similar
things.
There's
there's
proven
methods
and
that's
the
point.
Sometimes
you
got
to
make
that
change,
which
is
hard
at
the
beginning
and
later
on.
B
When
you
make
that
change
all
of
a
sudden,
everybody
comes
back
and
says,
see:
I
told
you.
You
should
have
done
this
a
long
time
ago
whenever
the
ones
stopping
you
from
doing
in
the
first
place.
We
keep
seeing
this
and
those
that
bringing
the
bad
ideas
are
always
the
same
ones
that
run
away
and
and
blame
again
blame
us
for
for
the
mistakes
they
brought
to
us.
B
O
O
O
These
items
is
not
to
reduce
services
or,
to
you
know,
limit
resources
to
the
community
and
to
animals
in
the
community,
it's
to
figure
out
ways
how
to
better
serve
and
to
be
able
to
serve
in
the
more
Humane
capacity
so
that
we
are
meeting
best
practices
and
we
are
providing
best
care
to
animals
and
we
are
providing.
You
know
fast
service
levels
to
the
president's
Hollister
and
so
the
thing
about
the
night
kennels.
O
O
F
G
H
G
H
I
think
so,
just
because
UC
Davis
wants
us
to
start
implementing
best
practice
as
well
and
I
know.
I
had
spoken
to
one
of
their
veterinarians
regarding
the
night
kennels.
They
should
be
coming
up
with
a
new
shelter
guidelines
for
a
Humane
treatment
of
animals,
which
is
implemented
throughout
all
California
shelters,
which
is
actually
saying
that
night
kennels
are
inhumane
and
that
should
be
published
by
the
end
of
the
year.
G
C
C
So
I
I
can't
support
this
for
a
number
of
reasons.
There's
no
deadline,
there's
no
timeline
specified
as
to
how
long
we
have
to
abide
by
these
again.
I
would
like
for
us
if
we
can
to
push
this
and
all
of
the
other
issues
that
are
being
talked
about
to
a
date.
Certain
and
I'd
rather
do
a
special
meeting.
I'll,
be
honest
with
you
and
I'd
like
to
see
it
well
advertised
so
that
we
can
invite
the
people
that
are
passionate,
other
Community
Partners.
C
So
we
can
have
again
a
very
good,
robust
discussion,
educate
myself,
educate
the
council,
educate
the
committee
members
about
what
some
of
these
decisions
we're
going
to
do,
how
they're
going
to
impact
the
services
for
our
for
our
pet
friends.
You
know
that's
what
I
would
love
to
see
and
if
we
can
get
that
on
board
as
soon
as
possible.
I
definitely
would
go
for
that
and
I'd
make
a
decision
then,
but
as
of
tonight,
I
definitely
cannot
support.
This.
Thank.
M
P
I
know,
and-
and
this
nationally
recognized
organization
is-
wants
to
come
and
help
us
with
this
whole
situation
and
as
far
as
giving
people
an
opportunity
to
come
and
say
what
they
want
to
say:
I
I,
totally
agree
with
Mr.
Resendez
change
is
not
always
easy
for
us,
but
if
this
is
a
proven
system,
then
I
think
it's
it's
a
no-brainer.
You
know
as
far
as
pet
friendly
people
I
gotta
wab
it
I
got
a
turtle.
I
got
a
koi
fish,
I
got
dogs,
I
got
them
all.
M
H
So
I'm
actually
part
of
a
huge
shelter,
Management
Group
throughout
the
state.
So
we
work
on
transfers
with
other
shelters
for
some
of
our
hard
to
reach
animals.
That
may
have
been
here
for
five
six
months,
trying
to
get
them
afresh
view,
so
we'll
get
help
from
other
shelters
and
we'll
also
Outreach
when
we
have
the
capacity
to
do
so
to
return
the
favor.
So
it's
a
huge
huge.
I
F
Weren't
the
information
wasn't
provided
to
us,
but
you
know
again
I
think
that
I'm
going
to
support
it.
I
said
at
the
beginning,
I
said
at
the
last
Go
Round,
And
and
but
but
I
also
have
some
concerns
about
I.
Think
council
member
Rosen
has
brought
up
a
real
good
question
as
in
so
if
we
move
forward
with
this
and
we
decide
it's
not
working
for
us
or
we
or
we
do
get
a
backlash
of
complaints
from
people
about
the
shelter
or
the
night
drop
being
shut
down.
F
B
Q
So
in
the
agenda
is
or
part
of
the
agenda
packet
is
Best,
Friends,
Animal,
Society
save
them
all.
It's
a
letter,
that's
serving
as
the
acknowledgment
between
the
shelter
and
the
Best
Friends
Animal
Society,
and
so
the
city
is
making
specific
commitments
as
outlined
in
that
letter.
So
you
would
be
bound
by
those
commitments.
If
you
accept
this
money
does.
Q
F
So
would
there
be
a
way
to
tighten
this
up
in
in
Legally
so
that
you
know
again,
I
I,
think
it's
a
great
pilot
project
I
believe
it's
going
to
be
successful.
I
desperately
want
it
to
be
successful.
I
think
it
makes
the
shelter
more
more
efficient,
more
effective,
I
think
the
community
will
support
it.
F
I
I
know
over
years
the
San
Benito
County
Civil
Grand
Jury,
has
often
made
comments
about
the
shelter
and
and
and
concerns
as
well,
so
I
think
it's
a
good
deal
but
I,
but
it
just
feels
like
it's
an
open-ended
and
and
and
so
I
I
just
don't
know
what
our
legal
exposure
is
by
signing
off
on
this
as
it
relates
to
how
long
we
need
to
honor
this.
If
it's
not
working
so
right.
Q
F
And
I
get
that
and
and
I
absolutely
you
know
want
to
move
forward
with
it
and
and
I
I'm
going
to
vote
Yes
tonight.
But
it's
a
qualified,
yes
with
reservation
about
the
long
or
the
the
tightness
of
this
Grant,
and
perhaps
this
could
serve
as
a
as
a
I.
Don't
like
the
word
warning,
but
I
can't
think
of
a
better
word
that
moving
forward
I
would
I
absolutely
want
things
that
are
more
well
defined,
because
this
this
is
this
to
me,
is
like
as
a
painting
contractor
you
do.
F
You
do
work
and
you
either
do
it
on
a
contract
or
you
do
it
at
what's
called
time
and
materials.
When
you
do
time
and
materials,
it
feels
like
you're
just
opening
up
your
checkbook,
and
in
this
case
it
feels
to
me
like
we're.
Just
there's.
No
there's,
there's
just
a
lack
of
clarity
to
the
longevity
of
this
thing.
So
thank.
B
B
For
the
animals,
awesome
I
think
that's
exactly
what
you
want
to
be
doing.
So
thank
you
for
that.
But
I
do
hear
the
concern.
I
understand,
I'm,
I'm
reading
something
too
it
says
tentative
plan
subject
to
change,
so
I
understand
what
Mr
Burns
is
saying:
it's
it's
I
think
it's
a
good.
It's
going
to
be
a
good
path
to
go,
but
I
I
think
Mr.
Resendez
is
the
one
that
said
this
or
Mr
Burns
I
think
said
this
is
it?
Is
it
not
possible
to
go
ahead
and
get
a
date?
B
G
I
I
think
that
the
question
is
how
long
we're
supposed
to
keep
it
closed
and
I.
Think
the
obvious
answer
is
that
the
best
practices
of
people
who
do
this
for
a
living
are
telling
us.
We
shouldn't
have
one.
We
should
not
have
a
night,
kennel
and
I
think
that
the
expectation
is
that
we
stop
doing
that,
because
all
it
is
is
offering
an
opportunity
for
animals
to
suffer
more
and
to
be
abandoned
by
a
responsible
dog
and
cat
owners.
G
Closing
an
eye
candle
does
not
mean
we
won't
have
any
services
at
night
when
we
have
an
animal
that
is
in
need,
they
can
call
the
police
we're
24
7
and
we
have
an
on-call
staff
for
animal
control.
So,
if
need
be,
they
will
come
out
at
night.
So
closing
an
eye
candle
doesn't
mean
that
that
suddenly
the
animal
can't
get
the
help
it
needs.
G
It's
just
going
to
stop
people
from
consistently
drop
using
that
night
kennel
going
after
hours
and
dropping
off
animals
without
following
the
paperwork
without
even
letting
us
know
where
they
found
the
animal
so
that
we
can
give
us
a
chance
to
find
a
re-home
that
animal
with
the
owner.
It's
it's
10
cases
plus
since
the
last
time
it
was
here
before
you
of
people
abandoning
and
many
of
them
coming
from
other
communities
to
our
community
to
drop
off
those
animals.
G
C
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
This
is
a
question
for
the
City
attorney.
The
letter
serves
to
acknowledge
this
letter
serves
as
acknowledgment
between
Hollister
animal
shelter
and
Best
Friends
Animal
Society
to
work
together,
and
it
goes
on
and
on
and
on
the
following
commitments
will
be
agreed
upon.
This
is
from
the
best
friends
part
on
the
bottom.
Hollister
animal
shelter
understands
that
they
are
required
to
commit
to
implementing
new
skills
and
programs
as
appropriate
to
increase
positive
outcomes
of
the
organization,
here's
the
tentative
plan
and
then,
in
parentheses,
it
says,
subject
to
change.
C
Q
C
And
one
of
those
things
that
I
want
to
point
out
is
closing
the
night.
Kennels
stop
accepting
all
the
things
that
were
listed
on
Art,
but
the
subject
to
change.
That's
what
we're
agreeing
to
it.
Just
it
doesn't
feel
very
clear
and
concise
to
me.
So
that's
why
I
cannot
support
it
tonight
and
I
just
want
to
make
that
very
clear
to
everyone.
Thank
you.
Thank.
M
So
I
think
any
anytime
you're
negotiating
with
when
you're
receiving
your
Grant,
especially
for
technical
assistance
and
I,
also
like
to
hear
from
Lawrence
on
this
is
for
demonstration
projects
that
are
evidence-based
anytime.
You
implement
those
strategies
on
a
particular
site.
You
have
there's
an
evaluation
period,
typically
six
months
to
a
year
to
18
months,
where
you
have
to
show
demonstrated
outcomes.
M
Normally,
you
have
a
control
and
treatment
group,
and
so
we
have
years
of
data
based
on
the
various
elements
you're
hoping
to
to
either
change
clothes
or
Implement
new
strategies
that
will
help
in
terms
of
whatever
you're
trying
to
accomplish
so
part
of
that
can
be
written
as
you're
as
you're
making
that
agreement,
and
also,
if
Lawrence,
wants
to
add
in
terms
of
your
experience
with
technical
assistance.
This
is
a
technical
assistance
grant.
M
If
you
have
any
experience
in
terms
of
the
length
of
of
the
demonstration
project
within
six
months
a
year
or
18
months,
you
can
demonstrate
based
on
the
data
whether
this
worked
or
not
within
our
community,
and
that's
what
the
various
grants
do
and
that's
what
a
technical
assistance
grants
to
is.
They
help
you
implement
strategies
that
are
going
to
help
with
positive
change
to
not
force
you
to
you
know,
force
you
to
implement
a
strategy
that
is
going
to
do
more
harm
to
your
community
foreign.
C
C
B
M
F
Thank
you,
mayor
I,
I'd,
like
to
start
by
congratulating
the
Hollister
Rebels
youth
football
team
on
their
recent
Championship.
Congratulations
to
the
organization
and
all
the
players
well
done,
also
like
to
wish
good
luck
to
the
Hollister
Vikings
on
their
quest
for
a
championship
in
Florida.
Good
luck
to
the
organization,
and
congratulations
well
done,
I'd
like
to
congratulate
the
Hollister
Baylor's
football
team
on
their
success.
This
year
they
fell
a
little
short,
but
it
wasn't
for
lack
of
effort
and
you
can't
win
them
all.
F
E
F
Concerned
that
you
know
we
continue
to
have
some
high
profile
things
and
I
think
that
would
help
also
would
like
to
get
a
update
on
the
cameras
for
the
skate
park.
That's
something
that's
been
pending
for
a
period
of
time,
as
well
as
cameras
for
the
entrance
to
the
two
entrances
into
Sunny.
Slope,
Village
and
I
know
that
these
are
on
a
document
later
in
the
council
report,
but
it's
they're
still
heavy.
F
I'd
like
to
know
when
that's
going
to
happen,
that's
a
lot
of
money,
and
it's
time
means
everything.
I'd
also
like
to
get
the
financials
the
profit
and
loss
for
this
year's
150
Year
celebration
to
know
how
that
all
ended
up.
I've
not
seen
anything
on
that
and
finally,
I
would
like
to
just
re
suggest
that
rolling
into
January
that
we
start
conversations
public
conversations,
formal
conversations
on
the
adoption
of
the
next
year's
budget,
and
so
with
that
mayor.
That
concludes
my
comments.
C
You
I
think
we
forgot
one
Mr
Burns
the
Cowboys
are
leaving
tomorrow
to
go
to
Florida.
The
cheerleaders
are
competing
in
a
competition,
so
congratulations
to
them
and
we
are
rooting
for
all
of
you
guys
that
the
council
member
had
pointed
out
I
just
want
to
ensure
that
the
next
meeting
we're
going
to
have
the
consideration
for
the
patches
for
the
police
department
I
think
we
had
support
for
that
for
the
lgbtq
plus
community.
C
In
light
of
the
recent
tragedy
that
occurred
in
Colorado,
Springs
I'd
like
to
have
that
discussion
as
soon
as
possible,
I
was
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
rec
department
and
everybody
all
the
volunteers
that
put
on
the
Lights,
On,
Parade,
I'm.
Sure
you'll
probably
hear
that
a
few
times
tonight,
but
not
just
the
lights
on
Parade,
but
all
of
these
traditions
and
all
of
these
actual
community
events
that
we
do.
These
are
some
of
the
ones
that
we're
known
for
everybody
comes
out
to
it.
It
was
a
lot
of
fun.
C
It
was
a
great
honor
to
be
a
part
of
that
this
year,
I
enjoyed
being
in
the
parade
and
not
just
watching.
Usually
we
watch
on
the
sidelines
and
we
had
a
great
time.
It
was
wonderful
to
see
all
the
staff
out.
There
I
think
it's
important.
We
need
to
have
a
presence.
We
need
to
have
conversations,
we
need
to
talk
to
our
constituents
and
get
out
there
in
front
of
them.
C
So
thank
you
guys
for
allowing
us
to
participate
and
thank
you
for
participating
as
well
great
job
and
then
for
the
breakfast
with
Santa
I
went
to
it.
It
was
packed
it's
packed
every
year
and
I
usually
go
every
year
and
breakfast
with
Santa.
From
what
I
see
it's
families,
it's
the
community
going
out
there
taking
their
kids
out
there.
These
Traditions,
it's
just,
really
really
warms
my
heart
to
see
them.
C
P
M
Said
vice
mayor,
thank
you
for
those
that
took
the
time
out
of
your
evening
to
come.
Speak
with
us.
Thank
you
for
for
doing
that.
Look
forward
to
hearing
from
you
happy
holidays.
Thank
you
to
all
the
staff
for
all
the
hard
work
that
you
do
and
we
look.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
you
in
the
next
couple
years.
B
B
F
B
B
The
result
was
a
loss
that
now
they
owe
the
city
twenty
seven
thousand
dollars,
because
it
was
based
purely
on
lies,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
is
followed
through
with
on
collections,
because
I
don't
think
something
like
that
should
ever
happen
again,
where
someone
can
just
come
out
and
just
spread
misinformation,
so
they
can
get
a
headline
story
based
on
the
in
slander,
the
city
and
council
members
with
us.
So
please
keep
us
posted
on
that
city
manager.
G
Chief,
yes,
thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
in
regards
to
what
was
just
brought
up
shot.
Spotter
we've
been
working
with
the
company
I
think
we
can
bring
something
forward
in
January
as
a
presentation
for
the
city
there
has.
They
recommended
us
provide
a
lot
of
statistics
for
them
so
that
they
can
have
that
data
to
provide
a.
I
G
Good
presentation
for
the
city
council,
what
a
proposal
would
look
like,
also
the
skate
park.
There
has
been
some
electricity
issues
trying
to
find
electricity
there.
That's
what's
holding
us
back
for
a
quote
for
that,
because
it
makes
a
big
difference.
If
they're
gonna
have
to
bring
in
electricity
there's
some
existing
poles
there
haven't
been
used
for
a
long
time.
G
D
Just
to
follow
up
on
a
comment
earlier,
the
Christmas
in
the
Park
event
will
be
at
Dunn
Park
and
we're
gonna
have
ice
skating,
Friday,
the
16th
from
four
to
nine
Saturday,
the
17th
from
12
to
8
and
Sunday.
The
18th
from
12
to
4.
snow
in
the
park
will
be
on
Saturday
December
17th
from
3
to
8,
and
so
we'll
also
have
food
vendors
and
a
Makers
Market
there.
So
I
want
to
invite
the
community
all
out
to
attend
and
Santa
and
Laser
Tag
I'm.
Sorry,
I
missed
laser
tag.
G
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
G3
is
a
report
to
Council
in
regards
to
RV
parking
in
the
City
of
Hollister
and
specifically
in
in
the
driveways
of
our
homes.
Over
the
last
few
months,
several
complaints
have
come
forward
to
the
council
in
regards
to
current
ordinances
in
our
city.
The
most
common
complaint
stems
from
current
ordinances,
not
allowing
recreational
vehicles
to
be
parked
on
a
private
residential
driveways.
G
Some
of
the
complaints
also
are
in
regards
to
recreational
vehicles
not
being
allowed
to
be
parked
on
the
city
street
attached
to
the
report
is
the
current
ordinance
that
addresses
recreational
vehicles,
parking
in
our
city,
ordinance,
10.10.030,
private
property,
parking
and
storage
of
recreational
vehicles.
One
of
the
most
common
complaints
involve
residents
advising
they
cannot
find
any
storage
facility
to
available
for
their
for
their
recreational
vehicles.
G
I
want
to
point
out
code
enforcement
has
made
several
calls
to
storage
facilities
in
our
city,
and
this
surrounding
areas
and
they've
always
been
able
to
find
some
storage
available.
However,
the
larger
Vehicles
like
40-foot
recreational
vehicles,
some
of
the
storage
facilities,
are
restricted.
They
won't.
They
won't
take
those
larger
Vehicles
because
they're
so
big,
not.
I
G
Of
them,
but
some
of
them
staff
believes
it
would
be
beneficial
to
share
with
the
Council
of
the
public.
Some
of
the
reasons
why
ordinances
have
been
modified
over
the
years
to
what
we
have
today
and
share
some
examples
of
other
ordinances
from
other
cities
in
the
packet
you
received
copies
from
Stockton,
Santa,
Clara,
County,
Fresno
and
Gilroy
of
those
Gilroy
is
the
only
city
that
allows
parking
of
recreational
vehicles
in
their
driveway
under
certain
restrictions.
Staff
would
also
like
to
provide
some
options
to
change
if
the
council
decides
to
make
those
changes.
G
G
Rvs
can
also
be
the
source
of
a
fire,
because
the
vehicle
usually
has
combustible
material,
including
gasoline
propane
and
diesel,
fuel
and
or
diesel
fuel.
The
fire
Source
parked
right
next
to
the
home
can
serve
as
a
as
a
ladder
effect
where
the
fire
in
an
RV
can
transfer
to
the
home
and
cause
increased
property
damage
or
loss
of
life.
Rv
stored
in
a
driveway
take
up
valuable
space
that
is
supposed
to
be
allocated
to
passenger
vehicles.
If
an
RV
is
parked
in
front
of
a
garage,
it
can
potentially
eliminate
two
parking
spaces
for
vehicles.
G
This
will
result
in
potential,
potentially
two
additional
Vehicles
parked
on
our
city
streets.
This
is
especially
important
because
the
current
issue
with
excess
amount
of
parked
Vehicles
stored
in
our
public
streets,
impede
street
sweepers
and
the
cleaning
of
our
streets.
We
have
where
cities
under
increased
mandates
to
remove
debris
from
Storm,
runoffs
or
affected
that
are
affected
by
not
having
cars,
moved
on
a
regular
basis
and
it
leaves
trash
and
leaves
and
other
debris
not
not
accessible
to
our
street
sweeper.
G
An
RV
can
also
be
a
visual
impairment
to
a
neighbor
having
difficulty
in
seeing
approaching
Vehicles
when
reversing
from
their
own
driveway.
An
RV
can
also
be
an
eyesore,
a
sight
clutter
with
old
unused
RVs
stored
in
driveways.
Some
residents
have
come
forward
advising
that
their
their
RVs
are
nice
or
newer,
just
like
to
say
that's
very
subjective.
G
Staff
recommends
against
changing
the
current
ordinance
and
Warren
Council
that
they
do
change.
They
will
potentially
receive
more
complaints
in
the
future
from
Neighbors
residents
who
do
not
own
the
RVs.
However,
if
the
council
would
like
to
change
our
current
ordinances
and
allow
storage
of
trailers
on
private
driveways,
we
do
have
these
recommendations
for
these
conditions,
similar
to
other
cities
that
do
allow
them
number
one
in
no
particular
order
is
only
allowed
if
the
RV
does
not
already
fit
on
this
rear
or
side
yard
per
the
current
code.
G
Number
two
the
RV
should
be
fitted
and
have
a
fitted
and
well
maintained
cover
to
eliminate
the
visual
clutter,
no
tarps
or
other
makeshift
covers.
The
current
setbacks
for
prior
prevention
should
be
the
documents
I
provided,
said
three
feet,
but
I
was
advised
by
fire
chief
El
Campo.
That
five
feet
would
be
his
recommendation
from
adjoining
property
from
any
inhabited
structure,
including
garage
from
the
overhang
and
no
intrusion
into
the
sidewalk
or
other
public
property.
G
Another
restriction,
if
allowed
to
be
RVs
to
be
parked
in
the
driveway,
would
be
to
must
be
parked
perpendicular
with
the
driveway
nor
horizontal
or
angled
parking,
taking
up
additional
driveway
space,
limited
to
only
one
RV
per
residence.
That
means
one
RV,
one
motor
home,
one
boat,
one
utility
Trader,
just
one
of
those,
not
all
of
them.
G
The
RV
has
to
be
on
the
pad
approved
by
engineering,
cement
or
pavers
whatever's
required
and
not
on
dirt
or
grass.
The
RV
cannot
be
higher
than
10
feet
tall.
The
RV
has
to
have
current
registration
to
our
current
resident
of
the
property.
No
non-ops
and
the
RV
should
be
in
working
order
and
operable
not
dismantled
or
erect.
The
RV
should
be
stored
only
in
the
enclosed
positions,
no
slide
outs
open
and
not
inhabited
at
any
time,
with
the
exception
of
actively
cleaning,
repairing
loading
or
unloading.
G
G
No
okay,
it's
in
the
packet,
it's
in
the
packet,
but
you
can
see
it
in
the
in
the
packet.
There
was
some
examples
gathered
by
on
a
very
short
notice
by
code
enforcement
and
some
of
the
examples
of
some
of
the
RVs
that
create
blight
and
problems
in
our
community.
In
that
packet,
you'll
see
photos
of
RVs
that
are
up
on
blocks,
some
of
them
protruding
into
the
sidewalk,
some
of
them
very
some
of
them
old
and,
with
you
know,
obvious
visual
clutter.
G
The
current
ordinance
also
has
a
section
that
allows
RVs
to
be
parked
in
the
driveway
for
14
days
and
that's
to
taking
consideration
people
that
may
be
loading
the
trailers
for
a
trip.
However,
this
section
is
very
problematic.
We
staff
would
recommend
that
we
do
change
that
part.
So
that
recommends
that
we
eliminate
section
10.10.030
D5
the
14-day
allowance
and
replace
it
with
the
72-hour
permit.
G
G
The
RV
owner
would
be
allowed
to
park
in
the
driveway
without
the
required
setbacks,
with
the
exception
of
not
protruding
into
the
sidewalk
or
be
allowed
to
park
on
the
street
as
long
as
it
doesn't
create
an
obstruction
or
traffic
or
or
line
of
sight
after
the
fourth
permit.
Any
additional
permits
would
require
a
fee
to
be
determined
by
the
fee
study
to
reimburse
the
city
for
the
permanent
program
there
will
be,
there
shall
be
no
more
than
two
permits
allowed,
one
leaving
and
one
return
per
month.
R
R
Okay,
so
right
here
is
some
examples
that
we
have.
The
picture
to
the
left
is
an
RV
of
somebody
that
was
living
in
it
and
they
used
a
cover
to
cover
the
front,
so
we
wouldn't
know
that
they
were
living
in
the
RV.
But
if
you
go
to
the
back,
you
can
actually
see
the
cords
that
were
plugged
in
to
the
main
structure
picture
to
the
the
other.
Pitcher
is
an
RV
that
is
up
on
Jax,
which
is
not
safe.
R
R
R
R
I,
don't
know
what
happened
with
that
one,
but
we
wanted
to
trick
you
guys,
so
that
is
an
RV
that
we
received.
Several
complaints
on
people
wanted
to
know
why
we
were
allowing
this
RV,
because
it
was
not
a
nice
looking
RV
that
puts
us
in
a
situation
where
I'm
you
know,
code
enforcement
has
to
go
around
and
say:
hey
Garvey
is
not
nice
I'm
not
going
to
allow
this
one,
but
I'm
gonna
allow
yours,
so
that's
something
that
is
not
an
easy
situation.
R
R
This
would
be
something
that
we
would
consider
a
proper
coverage
if
it
is
passed
and
approved
and
that
it
would
cover
the
RV
from
actually
giving
anyone
an
opportunity
from
living
in
it
and
not
having
to
see
if
it
looks
like
the
previous
slide,
where
it
was
not
a
nice
RV,
as
some
people
would
say,
and
that's
that's
all
of
them-
that
we've
come
across
or
or
a
handful
of
many
does.
You
guys
have
any
questions.
C
I'm,
just
assuming
those
are
all
taken
here
in
Hollister
right,
yes,
okay,
thanks
I,
remember
when
I
first
got
on
the
council,
I
think
it
was
the
mayor
and
I
think
that
was
it
that's
here.
Still
we
did
have
this
conversation
and
I
wasn't
I'll,
be
honest.
I
wasn't
really
understanding
what
the
issues
were
when
I
first
got
the
council
with
a
number
of
things.
This,
including
is
one
of
them
right,
but
I've,
got
to
say
I'm
with
the
staff
on
your
recommendations.
C
Basically,
I
do
a
lot
of
canvassing
and
I.
Do
a
lot
of
walking
and
knocking,
and
talking
and
I've
seen
a
lot
of
these
things
out
there
and
they're
pretty
concerning
especially
in
my
district,
so
I
get
the
safety
concerns.
I
get
what
the
people
that
are
coming
here
asking
for
this
to
be
visited
for
I
understand
what
their
concerns
are
as
well,
but
I
have
to
say
when
it
comes
down
to
it,
it's
it's.
C
It
is
considered
a
bit
of
a
luxury
if
you
and
I-
and
you
a
responsibility,
comes
with
owning
that
luxury,
a
long-term
responsibility
comes
with
it.
If
you
can
afford
to
get
an
RV
and
I
get
it,
we
live
in
an
area
where
you
can
there's
lots
of
things
for
you
to
do,
and
to
utilize
that
then
you're
going
to
have
to
do
your
part
to
keep
our
city
safe
and
aesthetically
pleasing
for
everybody
here,
you're
going
to
have
to
store
it
properly.
C
If
we
go
back
and
we
revisit
it,
and
we
want
to
change
things
later.
As
far
as
how
that
goes,
that's
fine,
but
I'm
gonna
go
with
what
the
staff
recommends
just
to
keep
it
the
same
and
I
do
think
that
we
should
change
the
was
it
the
10-day
14th
period,
because
I
remember
when
we
agreed
about
that
now,
it's
like
okay!
When
do
we?
C
C
Now
and
I
100
agree
with
you
that
we
should
keep
it
the
same
and,
of
course
we
should
go
ahead
and
give
those
permits
and
I'm
sorry
for
the
folks
that
are
going
to
be
affected
by
this,
but
we
all
have
to
do
our
part
to
make
sure
our
city
is
safe
and
aesthetically
pleasing
and
that
we're
being
good
neighbors
that
that's
where
I
met
with
it.
Thank
you.
P
And
understand
the
blight
project,
problematic
area
I
could
say
it's
like
almost
like
you're,
judging
jury,
you
know
and
that's
a
tough
spot
for
you.
I
do
like
the
permitting
process,
but
I.
Don't
where
are
we
going
to
take
out
all
of
our
RVs
I
mean
I
got
an
RV
I'm
lucky
I
got
a
place
to
take
it,
so
you
know
but
I
understand,
because
I
also
have
jet
ski
trailers
and
another
trailer,
but
so
I.
You
know
what
I'm
just
lucky,
because
I've
tried
to
rent
places
out
here.
P
I
can't
remember
the
name
of
it
on
San
Felipe.
You
know
what
and
other
places
and
as
far
as
like
just
because
I
got
an
RV
doesn't
mean
that
I
have
a
lot
of
money.
It
means
that
I,
planned
and
I
budgeted
for
this,
and
when
you
go
to
the
check
to
pay
your
taxes
and
to
register
your
Your,
Vessel
and
stuff,
they
don't
have
to
ask
you
where
it's
stored.
P
You
know
what
part
of
that
problem
should
or
part
of
the
problem
should
be
that
if
we're
going
to
be
storing
it
at
your
place,
you
know
it's
how.
Why
are
they
just
asking?
Where
are
you
storing
it
instead
of
saying
you
know,
you
can't
store
this
in
the
city,
it
has
to
be
I,
don't
know
it's
probably
none
of
their
business
or
anything,
but
you
know
it.
It
is
kind
of
confusing
and
misleading
when
the
tax
people
are
saying.
Oh,
oh
you're
going
to
store
this
at
your
house.
Okay
yeah!
P
You
know,
that's
that's
very
misleading,
so
the
it's
I
understand
the
the
whole
blight
thing.
You
know
what
I
do
like
the
permitting
process.
I
always
that
was
a
good
solution,
because
I
put
my
I
pull
up.
My
RV
I
move
my
cars
to
the
park
because
I
live
close
to
the
park.
I
don't
take
my
neighbor's
spots
because
I
start
fights,
but
but
you
know,
I
I
would
support
put
putting
one
vessel
for
on
per
property.
M
Mine
I'm,
not
that
long,
so
on
page
98
bullet
number,
six
Arby
has
to
be
on
a
pad
approved
by
engineering.
There
isn't
a
timeline.
There
isn't
a
description
of.
You
know
whether
it's
an
application
or
if
it's
an
appointment.
We
know
we've
heard
from
from
other
residents
that
they
can't
go
in
and
talk.
They
have
to
make
an
appointment
and
pay
a
fee,
and
so
there's
some
clarity
in
terms
of
if
residents
need
to
make
an
appointment
with
planning.
M
M
M
G
If
I
may
it
says
four
trips
or
with
no
charge
at
all,
but
if
you're
going
to
continually
be
parking,
your
RV
on
the
street
or
in
your
driveway
that
many
more
times
there
would
be
a
fee
for
the
following
permit,
so
they're
limited
number
of
permits,
with
the
exception
of
two
per
month,
so
that
the
issue
has
been
a
lot
of
people.
Some
God
bless
them.
G
They
have
a
lot
of
time
to
go
on
a
lot
of
trips,
but
then
their
RV
is
going
to
be
parked
on
the
street
or
in
their
driveway
for
a
long
period
of
time
and
to
try
to
get
that
balance.
They
can
have
additional
permits,
but
it
would
be
at
a
fee,
after
a
fee
study
to
pay
for
the
permit
Pro
the
regulating
the
permit
process.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
the
right
person
requested
the
permit
and
how
many
per
vehicle
per
address.
So
that's
the
way.
G
Some
other
departments
do
that,
and
it's
just
to
a
way
to.
Instead
of
having
a
14
days,
then
nobody's
going
to
be
able
to
track.
When
did
it
show
up?
When
did
it
leave
it's
70
22
hours,
that's
three
days,
that's
that's
time,
one
permit
for
them
to
load
it
and
leave
and
another
72
hours
when
they
come
back
to.
G
M
M
When
I
spoke
to
at
least
my
neighbors
or
residents
within
my
district,
they
did
have
a
hard
time
finding
places
they.
They
stated
that
there
was
a
long
waiting
list
or
the
areas
that
had
availability
or
subpar.
There
was
trouble
with
vandalism.
There
was
trouble
with
having
animals
that
would
come
in
and
thank
you.
Rats
come
in
and
do
stuff
to
the
property,
and
so
there
were,
you
know
the
risk
associated
to
actually
driving
it.
They
felt
better
or
more
secure
having
their
RV
within
their
property.
With
a
lot
of
the
residents.
M
At
least
you
said,
I
saw
within
my
district.
They
were
not
reflective
of
what
the
representation
that
was
stated
here
today,
also
understanding
that
Hollister
is
really
big
and
diverse
so
but
it
impacts
everyone
so
looking
at
it
from
a
broader
perspective
in
terms
of
policy,
this
is
going
to
impact.
Probably
jurisdictions.
P
G
S
Well,
I'm,
just
Fernandez
I
have
a
property
here
in
Hollister,
I
had
a
boat
and
a
trailer
parked
on
my
property.
It's
well
exceeded
the
rights
of
the
sidewalk
and
everything
else
it
didn't
impose
on
anything
and
I
was
requested
by
the
police
department
to
have
it
moved.
Okay,
the
first
violation
I've
seen
I,
didn't
ignore
it,
but
I
figured
it's
kind
of
ridiculous.
So
then
I
received
my
second
one:
I
got
in
contact
with
the
police
department
and
I've
since
moved
them.
S
I
was
living
in
a
gated
community,
another
portion
of
that
and
that's
basically,
what
I
have
to
say,
I
think
it's
a
heck
of
an
infringement
on
somebody's
pocketbook
for
one
and
their
concerns
in
their
own
property
on
how
they
can
maintain
them
and
keep
them
under
their
own
site.
I.
Think
we
should
be
allowed
to
do
that.
We've
worked
hard
for
everything,
we've
worked
for
and
I
think
we
should
be
able
to
have
the
entitlement
of
keeping
an
eye
on
it.
T
We
called
Mini
Mac
storage,
that's
on
San,
Juan
Road
and
they
did
have
some
availability,
but
they
also
have
a
large
line
of
homeless
RVs
where
people
are
actually
living
in
them.
There
were
RVs
and
disrepair
that
were
in
the
facility.
They
had
said
that
there
were
that
they
had
vandalism
in
those
in
the
RVs
that
were
parked
there,
sampling
by
storage.
When
we
first
got
our
RV
had
a
whole
lot
of
RV
storage
that
has
been
replaced
with
storage
units.
So
you
can't
store
your
RV
there.
T
T
Lots
of
people
got
stored
or
got
RVs
during
coven,
because
you
weren't
taking
these
great
road
trips
with
your
family
and
able
to
stay
in
hotels
and
guarantee
that
everybody
was
safe.
So
if
I
can
go
someplace
with
my
family
and
stay
in
my
own
RV
that
I
can
guarantee
is
only
as
Jeremy
as
we
bring
in
right
that
that's.
Why
we
have
it.
T
That's
it
is
a
luxury
guaranteed,
but
but
because
we
do
that,
it's
you
know,
that's
how
our
family
is
able
to
vacation
and
we
having
to
pay
for
storage
that
you
know
there
might
be
some
available.
But
there's
not.
If
you
look
around
how
many
RVs
are
in
the
City
of
Hollister,
there
are
not
those
spaces,
that's
not
you're,
not
going
to
find
those.
If
you
call
around,
there
may
be
one
or
two
here
or
there,
but
that's
not
going
to
solve
your
RV
storage
issues,
also
height
requirements.
T
B
D
N
Hello,
my
name
is
Stephen
Beck
and
I.
Just
want
to
talk
about
the
RVs
I
have
a
travel
trailer.
That's
in
my
driveway
I
have
one
vehicle
they
both
fit
in
the
driveway
they're,
not
sticking
out
in
the
street
or
the
sidewalk
or
anything
impeding
on
anything
else
and
I.
Just
think
it's
ridiculous!
That's
my
private
property
I
should
be
able
to
put
whatever
I
want.
There.
I
do
believe
that
all
the
conditions
that
the
staff
recommended
to
allow
people
to
keep
their
RVs
in
their
private
driveway
I
think
I
meet
all
those.
N
So
I
just
want
to
encourage
the
council
to
go
forward
with
these
changes
and
then
the
other
thing
I
didn't
really
care
for
was
the
permit
thing.
If
you
know,
if
I'm
allowed
to
keep
mine
there,
I
don't
need
a
permit
right,
but
there's
others
that
are
going
to
have
to
have
this
in
storage
and
getting
out
permit
is
a
big,
just
more
hassle,
more
Hoops
to
jump
through
more
money.
So
I
just
want
to
encourage
you
guys
to
make
these
changes.
U
U
U
I
V
Good
evening
Council,
my
name
is
Carson
Clower
I'm,
with
K2
Solutions
I'm,
a
resident
of
the
unincorporated
area
of
San,
Miguel,
County
and
I
appreciate
your
work
on
this
I.
Do
not
envy
your
position.
This
is
going
to
be
tough,
no
matter
what
you
guys
do.
I
do
think.
You'll
have
to
find
the
balance
between
the
property
rights
of
owners
and
the
right
to
enjoyment
of
their
neighbors.
So
that's
going
to
be
a
tough
task
for
you
guys.
I.
Do
think
that
at
least
for
me,
the
biggest
part
of
this
is
just
the
safety
aspect.
V
I've
been
taking.
My
kids
to
school
and
I'll
see
RVs
that
extend
out
into
the
public
right
away
by
six
eight
feet,
forcing
kids
into
the
street
to
go
around
the
backs
of
the
RVs,
and
when
you
look
at
the
RVs
they
go
all
the
way
up
to
the
garage,
so
the
people
know
that
they
do
not
fit
so
in
those
cases,
I
would
hope
that
the
code
enforcement
or
the
police
can
get
out
there.
V
Pretty
quick
because
I
mean
you
wouldn't
want
to
see
somebody
in
a
wheelchair
having
to
wheel
out
into
the
street
just
go
around
somebody's
RV
and
the
other
thing
I
want
to
bring
up.
Is
that
there's
been
numerous
instances
where
people
talked
about
a
lack
of
space
for
RV
storage,
I
am
working
with
a
client
who
owns
property
on
Airway
Drive,
who
is
going
to
be
coming
forward
with
an
application?
That's
going
to
be
a
combination.
V
Mini,
Storage,
RV,
storage
and
I
do
think
that
he's
leaning
more
towards
a
a
bigger
portion
of
the
property
being
for
RV
storage.
So
hopefully
the
planning
department
and
the
Planning
Commission
will
see
that
in
the
next
couple
months.
If
you
have
any
interest
in
that
I'd
love
to
get
you
in
touch
with
that.
I
V
R
W
W
W
W
Sorry,
thank
you.
These
people
have
RVs
here.
Why
don't
you
do
anything
about
them
and
normally,
if
we
go
to
a
street,
receive
a
complaint
and
we'll
see
the
other
complaints
we'll
address
those
as
well,
when
it's
not
as
if
we
just
okay,
we
just
gotta,
complain
on
this
one
and
ignore
the
rest
we'll
usually
go
around,
and
if
it's
in
one
area
like
Bayberry,
was
one
area
that
we
had
to
give
several
warnings
and
and
freedom
and
liberty,
Drive
was
another
one.
That's
I
think
Liberty
Drive,
actually
stemmed
from
two
was
actually
two
complaints.
W
F
F
About
Okay,
so
we've
got
some
looky-loos
that
are
driving
our
neighborhood
they're
they're
I'm,
going
to
try
and
be
as
respectful
as
possible
the
frequent
flyers
they
they
may
have
been
complained
on
themselves.
So
now
they're
gonna
snitch
everybody
else
off
in
the
city,
correct,
okay!
Well,
we
know
about
snitches.
R
F
I
I
I
I,
hear
your
pain,
I
understand
more
than
I'm,
going
to
express
at
this
moment
how
much
proactive
education
of
our
community
have.
We
done
in
regards
to
regards
to
this.
As
far
as
have
we
sent
anything
out
in
the
water
bills,
have
we
sent
anything
out
in
in
any
proactive
effort
other
than
having
a
handful
of
people
complaining
about
250
or
300.
R
So
in
2020
and
2021
we
did
send
out
some
literature.
We
have
not
sent
anything
out
in
2022,
but
before
we
address
anyone
with
an
RV,
we
give
them
an
education.
We
give
them
opportunity
to
give
us
a
call.
We
give
them
14
days
to
correct
it.
We
even
give
them
an
opportunity
for
an
additional
extension,
so
we
educate
then
educate
then
send
out
a
compliance
order.
It's
not
until
your
third
notice
you're,
actually
even
receiving
a
citation,
do.
R
F
F
I
would
argue
it
is,
and
so,
if
we're
gonna,
if
we're
going
to
enforce
on
these
things,
we
have
to
be
able
to
provide
due
process
and
I
would
argue.
Our
due
process
is
flawed
at
this
point,
through
no
fault
of
anybody's.
Here,
however,
I
say
you
turn
that
asset.
You
confirm
that
for
us
and
bring
that
bring
back,
that
information,
I
think
the
government
code
pretty
much
clearly
defines
what's
required
there.
So
when
was
this
current
ordinance
that
were
enforcing
adopted.
R
F
R
So
this
same
exact
conversation
came
up
four
years
ago
and
we
had
put
I
want
to
say
it
was
a
freeze
on
it.
We
didn't
change
the
code,
we
just
put
a
freeze,
so
everything
that
we
had
per
we
had
addressed
was
put
on
hold
and
council
at
that
time
had
asked
us
to
go
ahead
and
allow
them
until
further
notice
and
I'm
going
to
say
it
was
around
I
thought
it
was
five
but
you're.
F
I
F
G
I,
don't
think
the
I
don't
think
the
fire
chief
gave
me
any
examples,
he's
just
his
recommendation
and
is
consistent
with
the
current
ordinance
right
now.
That
does
allow
if
you
have
the
room
for
it,
to
store
it
on
the
side
of
the
building
side
of
the
home,
and
there
is
a
restriction
for
five
feet
and
that's
for
fire
prevention.
G
F
G
F
G
F
F
R
F
F
W
F
W
F
R
F
R
F
Q
U
F
R
F
R
This
one
they
are
living
in
that
RV,
as
you
can
see,
it's
all
popped
out
and
they
have
it
plugged
in
you,
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
see
the
little
orange
arrow
that's
in
the
street,
but
they
are
plugged
in.
They
already
have
three
vehicles
here:
two
in
the
driveway
one,
that's
encroaching
the
public
right
away.
That
is
a
very
large
RV
and
it
would
not
fit
in
that
driveway
I.
F
R
F
R
R
R
R
F
I
actually
drove
by
that
this
this
week
and
I
I
won't
I,
won't
name
where
it's
at,
because
I
don't
want
to
draw
unnecessary
attention,
but
it
doesn't.
When
I
went
by
there
on
Saturday,
it
does
not
appear
to
create
any
kind
of
a
visual
obstruction
from
what
I
could
see.
I
mean
I
went
up
and
I
went
down
and
surprised.
You
didn't
call
on
me
as
a
suspicious
person,
but
and
my
recollection
that
thing's
been
there
for
a
long
long
time
now.
I
presume
it
moves,
but.
R
F
Right
and
I
and
I'm
not
disputing
you
get
a
call.
You
go
I
I
understand
that
I
just
I
from
the
vantage
point
of
the
photograph,
I
I
know
it's
tall,
but
probably
three
or
four
feet
of
it
is
because
it's
on
a
trailer
and
we
absolutely
wanted
in
a
trailer
but
I
personally,
don't
see
where
that
creates
a
a
hazard,
but
I
get
how
some
people
would
be
offended
by
seeing
it
because
they
don't
like
it.
You
know
so
all
right
next
slide.
Paul.
R
This
is
another
one
that
somebody
it
was
plugged
in
to
the
main
structure:
there's
no
exits
from
the
side,
gate
or
the
garage
it's
blocking
it.
It
does
fit
on
this
particular
driveway,
because
this
driveway
is
in
a
longer
area
than
a
standard
driveway,
but
it's
just
a
larger
RV.
As
far
as
the
neighboring
part,
I
did
not
get
a
call
on
it
blocking,
but
this
would
be
an
example
of
somebody
that
could
possibly
have
a
view
blocking
when
pulling
out.
Okay.
R
R
F
R
F
R
R
R
F
Get
you,
and
so
we
don't
want
to
be
a
Good
Housekeeping
police
I,
absolutely
agree
with
that.
I
would
say
that
you
could
address
it
through
the
unimproved
surface,
unpaved
unimproved
surface,
so
there's
there's
there's
another
code
in
planning
that
would
allow
for
you
to
address
it,
regardless
of
yeah.
F
F
Right
so
thanks,
I
didn't
mean
to
to
unfairly
stress
you
I
I,
for
one
for
the
mayor
and
the
rest
of
the
council
I'm
going
to
support
a
change
of
the
existing
ordinance
and
recommend
that
any
current
or
pending
enforcement
of
this
ordinance
be
stayed
pending.
Adoption
of
an
amended
or
new
ordinance
and
for
the
city
manager,
I
thought
at
the
last
council
meeting
two
weeks
ago
that
we
had
a
consensus
that
that's
what
we
were
going
to
do
until
this
meeting
occurred.
F
Q
F
So
thank
you
for
the
clarification
I
would
just
say
it
would
have
been
helpful
to
have
received
that
at
the
last
council
meeting,
because
I
think
maybe
we
sent
out
a
bad
message
and
and
maybe
gave
some
people
some
false
expectations.
So
that
concludes
my
initial
comments,
mayor
and
so
from
my
from
my
perspective,
I
think.
F
The
thing
that
I
would
like
to
see
would
be:
if,
if,
if
there's
a
will
a
consensus
or
a
majority
of
the
council
wants
to
change
the
ordinance,
then
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
the
elements
that
the
chief
has
proposed,
because
the
majority
of
those
I
can
support.
There
are
a
couple.
I
have
questions
about,
but
I
for.
One
think
that
this
ordinance
is
old
is
Antiquated.
It
needs
to
be
changed
and
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
just
the
first
Domino
of
other
things.
F
I
think
councilmember
Perez
hit
on
it
at
the
last
council.
Meeting
I
also
brought
up
cars
and
driveways,
because
non-ops
can
be
a
whole
separate
conversation
and
I
know
that
we
can
only
take
this
one
bite
at
a
time.
Chief
I
appreciate
your
work,
and
your
staff's
work
on
this
I
couldn't
agree
more
with
eliminating
that
14
day.
Part
of
it
I
do
not
support
in
any
way
shape
or
form
a
permit
process
for
this,
and
ultimately,
I
also
would
like
to
see
this
removed
from
Council
for
public
hearings
in
the
future.
F
G
I
can
add,
yes,
I
didn't
get
to
that
point
of
the
staff
report,
but
we
have
asked
the
City
attorney
to
look
into
changing,
also
10.40.100
public
hearing
to
change
that
to
a
hearing
officer
instead
of
a
city
council
that
is
under
advisement
through
they're
working
on
that
change
for
it.
So
where
we're
at
with
all
of
this
is
basically,
this
is
a
report
to
you
to
make
a
decision
on
it,
whether
you're
going
to
allow
a
vehicle
to
be
parked
in
the
driveway
or
not,
if
allowed
which
of
those
restrictions.
G
You
would
like
to
address
and
the
permit
program
whether
you
would
like
to
address
that
program
and
I
may
add.
If
you
do
allow
vehicles
to
be
parked
on
the
driveway,
those
Vehicles
Meeting.
Those
restrictions
wouldn't
need
a
permit.
So
since,
if
they're
Allowed
by
this
Council,
then
they
wouldn't
need
a
permit.
It
would
be
for
larger
vehicles
that
don't
fit
the
restrictions
that
you
you
decide
to
put
on.
C
You
Mr
Mayor,
so
after
hearing
that
passionate
report
from
councilmember,
Burns,
I,
obviously
I
don't
think
we
can
take
any
action
tonight.
But
what
I
would
suggest
is
that
we
have
an
ad
hoc
committee
with
anybody
who's
interested
in
meeting
with
the
police
department
and
ironing
out
some
of
these
details
and
then
further
putting
that
on
agenda
to
bring
back
to
the
council
for
consideration
consideration
of
adoption.
B
Disappointment
of
the
changes
that
were
never
done
and
whatever
promised
to
us-
and
that
was
not
you
chief,
that
was
before
it
was
a
lot
of
promises
over
and
over
that
they
had
a
great
new
plan
that
was
going
to
solve
everything,
and
then
nothing
happened.
We
were
like
where's.
The
plan
turns
out.
Their
number
was
one
worked
on,
so
that
was
extremely
frustrating,
so
I
appreciate
it,
but
I
have
been
involved
in
these
conversations
both
before
and
after
and
I
can
tell
you,
the
I
think
Chief.
You
made
the
comment
for
now.
B
B
But
unfortunately,
you
have
so
many
that
that
don't-
and
we
I
can
remember
some
of
them
passionately
in
here
going
on
and
on
about
how
it's
just
not
fair
and
we're
just
we
care
about
our
RVs
and
we're
not
going
to
use
it
for
anything
else
and
then
getting
the
complaint
of
hey.
There's
people
living
in
those
RVs
and
really
going
to
the
home
and
say:
hey
I.
Remember
you
at
the
council
meeting.
N
B
You
weren't
going
to
do
this.
Well,
it's
just
because
it's
our
cousin,
so
it's
okay
and
then
moving
it
down
the
street
to
meet
the
rules
and
then
moving
it
again
and
again
the
others
complaining
and
it
just
became
one
crazy
game.
The
people
so
I
think
and
I
I
agree
with
you,
Mr
Burns
on
there's,
there's
ways:
there's
got
to
be
a
way
to
do
this,
but
first
steps
is
giving
code
enforcement
in
the
department.
B
Gonna.
Give
you
so
many
days
to
move
it
and
we're
going
to
come
back
to
play
this
game
again,
because
that's
what
it
became
so
when
I
think
it's
unfair
to
those
that
are
doing
it
right,
keeping
their
RVs
in
good
condition,
and
this
becomes
a
problem
because
eventually
you
get
the
one
as
in
the
picture
where
it's
not
but
I
I
have
to
say
that
it's
a
rare,
it's
rare
when
you
see
ones
that
look
that
bad,
so
I
I
think
for
this
Council.
B
There's
ways
to
do
this,
but
I
don't
think
I
would
say
an
ad
hoc
is
really
not
the
way
to
do
this.
It's
going
to
take
the
entire
council's
input
and
a
good
conversation
from
the
public
to
really
work
out,
something
that's
fair,
long
term
and
it's
not
going
to
become
a
issue
for
the
police
department
or
or
code
enforcement
to
have
to
enforce
and
go
around,
and
it's
not
fair
that
one
person
goes
around
and
reports
30
Vehicles,
because
they're
angry
about
something
else.
B
But
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day
it's
you're
being
made
to
do
something:
you're,
probably
pretty
angry,
and
you
want
to
make
sure
everybody
else
is
following
that
that
same
rule.
So
you
know
again,
the
biggest
disappointment
was
that
changing
the
rules
that
was
promised
that
can
change
our
world
never
happen
and
let
this
entire
Council
down
but
I,
know
there's
communities
that
are
doing
this
right
and
I
would
recommend
taking
the
time
to
to
find
those
that
seem
to
have
it
done
right.
B
I
B
Think
there
are
ways
to
do
it
and
I
I,
don't
know
if
any
work
ever
really
was
done,
as
was
mentioned
in
the
last
effort,
but
I
think
it
has
to
be
done
Fair
than
right,
I,
don't
know.
If
suspending
the
rules
right
now
is
the
right
choice.
I
think
I
think
that
serious
effort
of
really
spending
some
time
here
at
the
council
with
the
public,
both
those
that
are
forward
and
against
it
and
really
sit
down
and
Hammer
it
out
and
I,
can
remember.
We
I
thought
we
were
really
close
to
it.
N
I
W
P
I
P
P
But
you
know
it's
I
like
it,
because
it
kind
of
Records
the
time
that
we
have
there,
but
it
kind
of
limits.
The
time
we
have
there,
because
sometimes
I
take
off
three
or
four
times
in
two
months.
You
know
I'll
go
out
every
weekend
and
you
know
I,
don't
know
so
it's
it's
got
its
advantages
and
disadvantages
I.
P
M
M
More
of
a
balanced
approach,
I'm
not
interested
in
the
permit
I'm,
not
interested
in
restricting
or
telling
people
how
to
live
their
lives
and
I
do
think
that
we
could,
probably
you
know,
even
send
out
a
survey
for
people
that
have
complained
and
people
it
sounds
like
you
have
a
very
comprehensive
list
send
out
a
survey.
Here's
where
we're
proposing
give
us
your
thoughts.
You
have
you
know
five
business
days
and
let
us
know
what
they
think
it's
it's
really
challenging
to
have.
M
People
like
look
at
the
agenda
come
here,
you're
going
to
get
a
super
small
percentage
of
the
population
that
reaches
out
to
city
council
or
comes
here
and
talks
to
the
council
about
this
particular
issue.
If
you
have
that
level
of
interest
from
the
public
in
terms
of
just
complaints-
and
it
looks
like
we've-
been
dealing
with
this
for
a
very
long
time,
a
survey
will
take
minimal
effort
and
we'll
probably
get
a
lot
more
insight.
C
Yeah
I
was
just
going
to
go
back
Circle
back
to
my
idea.
I
think
we
need
to
appoint
a
couple
of
members
from
the
council
and
I'd
love
to
suggest
appointing
councilmember,
Burns
councilmember
Perez
to
an
ad
hoc
ironing
out
all
these
details
with
our
staff
and
then
coming
back
to
us
with
the
policy
and
then
at
that
time
we
can
continue
on
the
conversation.
Q
F
F
I
can't
get
an
RV
down
the
side
or
into
the
back
you're,
seeing
some
new
development
where
they're
actually
putting
a
garage
door.
I
know
some
of
the
homes
off
of
Buena
Vista
out
in
that
area
that
are
probably
15.
20
years
old
now
had
a
door
where
you
could
actually
go
in
the
garage
door,
take
a
boat,
an
RV,
a
car
into
the
backyard.
But
a
lot
of
this
you
know
they're
they're,
they're,
big
houses
on
small
lots
and
so
I.
F
Don't
know
that
a
lot
of
this
is
going
to
be
practical,
but
I
would
like
to
give
staff
some
direction
on
where
to
invest
their
time.
Moving
forward
and
I
would
like
to
recommend
that
we
bring
this
back
at
the
next
council
meeting,
because
I
think
it's
important.
If,
if
we're
going
to
change
this
first
of
all
I,
don't
think
staff
should
be
spending
a
lot
of
unnecessary
time
on
this
until
we
give
them
clear
Direction
on
what
it
is.
F
We
want,
based
on
what
the
community
says
and
so
I'm
I'm
set
to
roll
I
have
I
have
a
page
in
98
up
I
can
go
there
if
Council
wants
to
have
not
council
member
Morales
just
pretty
much
rolled
through
it,
and
so
I
think
it
would
be
helpful.
The
good
news
is
it's
just
nine
o'clock
I
mean
this
is
this
is
really
a
a
a
an
abnormal
meeting
for
us?
F
E
G
Well,
the
whole
goal
is
to
get
some
direction.
We
can
start
working
on
this.
Our
intent
was
to
get
direction
so
that
we
can
come
back
to
council
with
your
recommendations
in
the
formal
revision
of
the
of
the
of
the
ordinance.
So
if
we
went
down
that
road,
would
there
be
consensus
to
change
the
ordinance
to
reflect
to
allow
certain,
under
certain
conditions,
a
trailer
to
be
parked
in
the
driveway?
Is
that
a
direction
you
want
us
to
go
through
at
this
point.
G
G
P
G
P
G
O
W
W
B
W
Absolutely
absolutely
and
understand,
and
I
hope
the
public
understands
you
know
me
and
Desiree
are
our
goal
is
to
work
with
our
communities
not
to
just
sit
there
and
issue
them
a
citation
and
everything
like
that.
That's
the
reason
why,
as
she
as
Desiree
broke
it
down,
we
you
get
up
to
six
weeks
to
correct
the.
W
G
I
don't
know
if
we've
received
consensus
on
an
RV
cover
on
there
or
not
yes,
okay,
the
current
setbacks
for
fire
prevention
are
actually
five
feet
from
adjoining
property.
Five
feet
from
an
inhabited
structure,
including
a
garage.
Is
that
something
that
the
council
would
want
reflected
in
the
condition
five
feet
away
from
the
home.
C
G
F
Would
be
good
with
three
feet
and
I
and
I
don't
necessarily
understand
the
rationale
to
an
attached
garage
now,
if
it
was
a
converted
garage
where
there's
human
habitation,
maybe
but
but
I
I
can
go
one
way
or
another
on
the
garage,
but
I
think
three
is
adequate
and
I've
not
heard
anything
to
really
support
that
and,
unfortunately,
the
fire
department's
not
here
and
if
they
believe
strongly
in
it.
When
you
guys
come
back,
they
can
come
back
and
speak
passionately
to
that
team.
Okay,
we.
B
On
three
feet,
I'm
not
gonna,
add
something
sure
it
should
be
clear.
Are
you
talking
about
the
overhang
yeah
or
the
door,
and
most
fire
departments
want
at
least
a
minimum
of
four
foot
clearance
to
run
through
areas
because
they
have
gear
on
that's
why
three
feet
is
usually
used
to
be.
Three
foot
was
all
right
now,
it's
minimum
is
always
four
foot
by
code
on
most
yeah.
I
B
G
D
A
A
A
We
usually
just
sue
the
regular
recommendation,
so
I
didn't
see
anything
and
I
I
think
the
three
foot
would
be
fine
because
he
was
asking
me
that
and
I
was
looking
at
all
the
code
books,
the
via
the
fire
code
and
and
the
building
code,
and
the
residential
code
and
I
couldn't
find
anything
that
states
that
step
back
for
the
storage
and
then
the
only
thing
I
did
find
on
storage
was
in
back
behind
screened
screen
fences,
so
I'm,
okay,
with
what
you
guys
decide
on
on
that
stuff
right
there.
It's.
A
I'm,
okay,
with
what
you
guys
say,
I
couldn't
find
anything.
I
was
trying
to
find
all
the
justification
to
figure
it
out
because
I'm
about
justifying
it
with
the
code
and
I
couldn't
find
any
fire
code.
That
would
that
would
recommend
that
so
I
mean
people
Park
their
cars
all
the
way
up
against
their
garages.
A
I
know
RVs
are
a
little
a
little
a
lot
bigger,
but
as
long
as
they're
out
of
the
public
right
away
and
they
meet
all
the
other
conditions.
You
know,
if
that's
what
they
want
to
take
a
chance
and
do
then
that's
a
that's
up
to
them
and
what
you
guys
decide
on
that
part,
but
we're
we're
pretty
flexible
on
this.
B
A
G
W
N
G
The
RV
has
to
be
on
a
pad
approved
by
engineering,
cement
pavers,
not
dirt
or
grass,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
you
need
the
stability
for
the
trailer,
and
you
also
need
to
know
whether
you've
already
exceeded
the
limit
on
Paving
or
cement
on
your
property.
A
compromise
might
be
pavers
that
still
allow
the
rain
water
to
go
down
but
offer
a
stable
foundation
for
the
recreational
vehicle.
F
I
G
G
P
F
R
B
P
R
R
G
C
G
Time
to
to
address
those
issues,
if
it's
especially
if
it's
just
temporary
I,
think
that
that's
something
that
they're
already
doing
and
the
last
one
is
RV
should
be
stored
only
in
the
closed
position,
no
slide
outs
open
and
not
inhabited
at
any
time,
with
the
exception
of
actively
cleaning,
repairing
or
loading
or
unloading.
Yes,
okay,
those
are
all
the
conditions
that
were
in
the
recommendations.
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
any
additional
ones
that
you
would
like
to
add.
G
R
R
F
W
I
hear
what
you're
saying
about
the
other
options,
but
the
most
people
don't
look
at
it
like
that,
so
we
have
somebody
parking
on
their
lawn.
We
issue
them
a
site
for
having
their
RV
on
the
lawn
or
something
like
that
and
the
person
that's
meeting
all
these
requirements.
You
know
that
person
that
got
cited
is
going
to
look
at
well.
What
about
that
person?
You
know
that's
so.
Yes,
there's
many
actions
we
can
do,
but
not
in
the
person
getting
the
ticket
or
getting
the
warning.
I
mean
most
of
these
are
standing.
W
B
I
F
F
And
and
they
haven't
stepped
down
and
in
planning
there's
there
are
codes
that
require
you
to
step
it
down
so
that
it
doesn't
create
an
obstruction
for
your
neighbor
trying
to
back
out
and
and
so
I
think
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
ways
to
do
it
and
and
from
my
life
experience
the
simpler.
This
is
it's
like.
Quite
candidly,
when
I
went
to
work
for
the
city
of
I,
say
I
was
tasked
with
rewriting
the
public
nuisance
ordinance
for
the
city
of
Visalia
and
having
come
from
Hollister,
it
was
like
well
somewhere.
F
There's
got
to
be
an
ordinance.
This
is
you
can't
park
on
your
front
lawn,
because
when
the
way
you
get
there,
it
doesn't
say
that
and
so
number
one
it's
hard
to
interpret
it
yourself
as
the
enforcer
and
then
try
to
explain.
Well,
it's
not
that
it
says
you
can't
park
on
your
front
lawn.
It
says
that
you
can't
park
on
a
non-improved
surface
and
and
then
the
light
goes
on,
but
I
I
think
you
keep
it
as
basic
as
possible
and
then
I
think.
F
Ignorance
is
bliss,
but
it
really
isn't-
and
you
know
to
to
rely
on
the
the
sellers
of
RVs
trailers
boats
to
do
that.
They're
never
going
to
do
that,
because
it's
not
in
their
best
interest.
So
we
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
and
candidly,
because
we're
here
tonight,
we've
already
done
a
really
good
job
with
this
new
version,
because
this
thing
got
parked
for
like,
as
I
heard,
you
guys
say
like
five
years
and
and
so
we're
100
better
tonight
than
we
were
before.
So
just
my
recommendation.
G
And
the
final
thing
that
the
final
thing
that
I
would
need
and
see
if
there's
consensus
on,
is
changing
the
14
day
to
a
permit
process
and
we
can
make
that
permit
process
as
much
as
you
want.
Suggestion
was
four
permits
a
year
free
and
after
that,
a
fee
to
be
determined.
You
could
make
it
more
than
that.
G
You
can
make
it
six
seven
permits
that
are
free,
but
you
just
have
to
go
we're
hoping
that
with
a
new
program
that
the
it
is
working
on,
that
those
programs
can
even
get
online,
but
they
have
to
be
specific
to
the
address
and
the
RV
so
that
we
don't
have
people
constantly
having
their
RVs
parked
in
a
manner
that
they
otherwise
wouldn't.
However,
if
you
do
allow
these
RVs
and
their
RVs
do
are.
Q
B
C
G
C
So
my
suggestion
would
be
it
sounds
like
we're
going
in
a
whole
different
direction.
My
suggestion
would
be:
let's
just
try
this
and
let's
adopt
it,
and
then
if
we
see
that
that's
an
issue
or
it's
becoming
a
problem,
then
we
can
revisit
the
permit
process,
but
it
doesn't
sound
like
two
things
that
it's
needed
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
consensus
from
what
I
heard
of
the
conversations
about
giving
a
permit
process
in
general.
So
that
would
be
my
suggestion.
I
G
R
G
F
I
I
think
we
just
leave
this
alone
personally
and
and
let
the
let
the
code
speak
for
itself
on
that.
If
we
have
an
existing
code,
I
think
the
more
complicated
we
make
it
other
people
will
see
and
then
you
know
people
see
people
do
and
and
I
just
think
you
enforce
on
that
I.
My
sense
is
I've
not
heard
a
whole
lot
of
pushback
from
enforcing
on
the
streets.
It
hasn't
gotten
to
my
level
and
I've
got
plenty
of
pushback
on
private
property,
parking
and,
and
so
I
think.
G
B
One
more
important
part
to
this:
that
is,
there
are
people
that
look
to
Parker
neighborhoods
with
their
vehicles
that
do
not
live
in
there
and
they
know
the
rule
of
72
hours.
So
if
now
currently
you
have
to
have
that
permit,
you
can't
just
park
an
RV
somewhere.
You
have
to
have
that
permit
and
that's
why
that
is
part
of
that,
because
you,
you
will
have
people
Park
without
getting
permission
parked
for
72
hours
and
then
move
to
the
next
place
and
we've
had
those
calls
many
many
times
and.
W
B
F
So
Chief
with
your
explanation
for
that
I
I'm,
gonna,
flip
flop
and
and
support
that,
but
I
think
it
would
be
better
housed,
not
in
the
part
on
private
property,
but
in
addition
to
the
ordinance
you
just
read
as
the
exceptions
or
to
to
enhance
the
I
didn't
catch
the
code
section
and
both
my
pens
quit
writing
I'm
I'm
claiming
conspiracy,
but
but
I
think
it
would
be
be
better
placed
in
that
of
part
of
the
ordinance
to
not
confuse
the
private
property
issues.
Thank
you.
Mr
Miller
I
appreciate
it.
I'll
use
it
well.
G
I
I
think
that
we
may
have
people
whose
RVs
do
not
fit
in
the
in
with
the
conditions
in
their
driveway
and
the
permit
addresses
that
as
well
that
they
could
bring
it
in
for
72
hours,
while
they're
loading
unloading
with
the
exception
and
not
covering
or
not
blocking
the
sidewalk.
Maybe
they
could
be
a
little
closer
if
we're
only
talking
one
or
two
days.
Three
days,
that's
the
most.
My.
F
E
F
G
That'll
be
our
goal,
it
seems
to
be
con.
Our
goal
is
to
make
it
a
compromise
and
and
to
allow
people
who
have
their
trailers
and
their
boats
to
be
able
to
load
them
and
and
and
go
off
on
their
trips
and
come
back
and
unload
them,
and
when
we
do
get
those
calls
from
the
Neighbors
come
complaining,
we
can
advise
them,
they
actually
have
a
permit.
G
Whichever,
however,
the
count
the
council
decides,
whether
you
want
it
before
you
wanted
to
be
always
free
just
to
document,
so
we
can
keep
track
or
or
is
there
a
fee
associated
with
it
after
a
certain
amount
so
that
we
can
reimburse
the
cost
of
maintaining
the
permit
process?
That's
a
decision
for
the
council.
C
So
I
definitely
support
that,
because
I
again
I
think
we
can
go
either
way
and
then
my
suggestion
would
be
not
to
not
to
like
to
incentivize
these
citizens
that
are
doing
the
right
thing
and
they're
going
through
the
permit
process.
We
shouldn't
charge
them
I
think
we
should
just
allow
it
to
be
free
and
maybe
put
like
a
I
guess
we
could
put
a
number
of
cap
or
not
even
like,
let's
just
let's
just
get
the
permit
process
out
there.
G
C
C
F
Frustrated
after
a
while
yeah
I,
I
I
would
agree,
I
mean
until
we
really
have
a
sense
for
what
this
is
going
to
be,
because
again,
if
your
staff
is
doing
2
000
of
these
a
year
at
some
point,
we
probably
will
have
to
assess
a
fee
with
it,
because
it's
a
cost
of
doing
business.
But
until
we
really
know
I
mean
this.
G
Is
let's
get
some
data?
Let's
get
some
that
would
be
my
recommendation.
Maybe
I
think
we
have
direction.
We
can
come
back
to
the
council
with
the
proposed
ordinance
to
see.
If
that's
what
you
want
to
do
and
then
maybe
we
can
agree
to
look
back
at
it
six
months
later
to
see
if
anything,
how
it's
working
at
that
point
if
there
needs
any
changes,
if.