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A
Jacobs
board
member
Andre,
Garner
and
deputy
director
of
planning,
Megan
Wilson
Staff
to
board
David
Barkin,
chairperson
of
the
board,
and
hopefully
Joseph
Kirby,
will
be
joining
us
as
well
as
Marshall
McCormick,
acting
as
a
alternate
for
one
of
our
Appeals,
the
secretary
to
the
board
of
Megan
Wilson
will
call
each
case
in
the
order
listed
on
the
agenda.
The
phones
will
then
have
a
maximum
of
five
minutes
to
present
the
material
or
highlight
aspects
of
the
appeal
board.
Members
May
question
their
balance
on
any
areas
requiring
clarification.
A
Full
consideration
of
appeals
requires
a
public
hearing
deliberation
and
then
voting
by
the
board.
These
actions
occur
only
after
the
accountants
file
of
appropriate
documents
in
the
zoning
Division
and
demanding
and
development
board.
Public
hearings
include
testimonies
from
interested
parties
or
considers
interested
parties,
persons
who
live
work
or
own
property
within
750
defeat
of
the
property
who
are
authorized
representatives
and
recognizing
neighborhood
of
Civic
groups
or
who
are
elected
City.
If
they've
told
board
members
in
a
question
testifying
interested
parties
on
it
and
what
areas
requiring
clarification
virgins
who
do
not
need
the
board's
interest.
A
Commons
must
be
limited
to
strict
rebuttal
of
the
issue
driven
by
those
opposed
and
will
be
limited
by
five
minutes.
A
timely
will
sound
speakers
a
lot
of
time,
but
would
you
not
adhere
to
Circles
of
evidence?
We
do
consider
this
quantization
procedure
and
base
our
decisions
on
the
official
record.
The
official
record
consists
of
application,
obsidious
filed
in
Arizona
division
correspondence
relating
the
cases,
receivable
and
Zoning
division
planning,
the
development
boards
phone
findings
and
recommendations.
A
If
any
and
the
record
of
tonight's
meeting,
an
audio
recording
is
being
made
of
this
meeting,
therefore
it
is
essential
anyone
wanting
to
be
heard
from
short
and
speaks
directly
into
a
microphone,
so
their
comments
are
recording
and
heard
by
our
present
extraneous
comments
from
the
audience
will
might
have
been
recorded
nor
considered
unemployed.
We
ask
everyone
to
limit
their
comments
appeal
and
not
comment
on
matters
beyond
the
point
of
jurisdiction.
Following
the
appeal
area
will
be
closed
and
the
board
will
begin
deliberation.
A
The
board
is
required
to
render
the
decision
within
62
days
of
the
public
hearing
exposure
wants
to
hear
and
explosion
after
the
testimony
will
be
taken.
It
takes
three
votes
to
approve
a
motion
of
great
variance
and
favorable
interpretation,
and
the
events
of
the
taiwo
and
appeal
is
denied.
Tonight's
appeals
are
available
for
public
review
on
the
table
at
the
back
of
the
room,
as
well
as
on
the
C
website.
Please
be
advised.
There
are
two
agencies
from
common
council
chambers.
A
The
winning
problem
is
to
enter
at
the
rear
of
the
room
in
the
wonderful
product,
Chambers
and
then
again
before
you
call
our
first
case.
We
are
just
doing
a
slight
adjustment
to
the
agenda.
We
will
start
with
appeal
three
two:
five
one
for
66,
Woodcrest
and
that'll,
give
us
time
for
our
alternate
board
member
to
arrive
numbers.
A
So
that
Megan,
can
you
please
call
our
personality:
okay,
66
footrest,
Avenue,
Crescent
area
variants
from
section
3158-110,
lab
coverage
by
buildings,
column,
11,
front
yard,
column,
13,
side
yard
and
Howard
1415
rear
yard
to
allow
the
construction
of
a
screen
room
on
the
rear
of
the
single
family.
Dwelling
at
this
property.
A
Miller
we
are
seeking
to
build
a
screen
porch
on
the
back
of
our
existing
home.
This
is
a
project
that
we
had
started
in.
2019
didn't
quite
finish
it.
There
was
this
coven
thing
and
we
also
ran
out
of
money,
but.
A
B
And
because
of
the
change
in
the
shape
of
the
porch
staff
thought
it
would
be
good
if
we
went
through
the
process
of
getting
it
all
looked
at
again,.
B
B
A
Okay,
so
with
that,
will
then
open
up
a
public
hearing
and
you
can
hear
from
if
anybody
is
in
the
audience
to
speak
for
this
appeal
and
then,
if
not
we'll
turn
you
over
to
Megan
to
hear
from
any
other
interested
outfits.
A
So
we
do
not
have
anyone
sign
up
to
speak
either
in
person
or
remotely.
We
also
did
not
receive
any
written
comments
on
this
appeal
this
time.
The
this
particular
appeal
is
not
subject
to
review
by
Tompkins,
County
and
I'm,
going
to
read
the
betting
boards
recommendation
just
a
moment.
Defending
board
supports
these
variances
as
they
support
owner
occupied
improvements
and
appreciate
the
design
of
the
porch.
The
planning
board
finds
no
long-term
negative
impacts
to
planning
great.
Thank
you.
A
A
If
the
factors
considered
in
the
original
variance
I
can
speak
for
themselves.
Is
there
anyone
that
would
like
to
make
a
motion.
A
I
make
a
motion
to
Grant
variance
one
three,
two,
five
one
or
six
and
things
when
we
cross
the
Avenue
all
made
by
Michael
Cannon.
The
factors
considered
whether
or
not
desirable
change
would
be
producing
character
in
the
neighborhood
detriments
nearby
properties.
Now
the
new
edition
will
be
located
on
the
rear
of
the
house,
will
not
be
highly
visible
from
the
street,
but
probably
will
maintain
a
25-foot
beer
yard.
Approximately
24
of
the
lot
will
be
covered
by
buildings,
the
front
yard
and
side
yard
efficiencies
are
existing
and
will
not
be
exacerbated
by
The
Proposal.
A
A
No,
the
applicant
could
build
a
smaller
Edition.
It
would
not
approach.
A
A
Whether
the
requested
variance
is
substantial,
I
would
say.
No,
this
is
not
a
substantial
task
is
approach
to
bring
everybody
less
than
six
feet
will
reduce
the
yard
to
82
percent
of
the
required
debt.
The
initial
will
also
increase
the
line
coverage
by
buildings
like
288
square
feet.
This
results
in
the
24.3
rod
coverage
by
buildings
of
the
20
allowed
in
the
r1a
district.
A
The
board
does
notify
needs
to
be
substantial
variants,
and
so
the
variants
have
an
adversity
effect
on
your
physical
or
environmental
conditions
in
the
neighborhood
no
based
on
submitted
application,
materials
tested
going
to
be
applicant
and
observations
of
existing
conditions.
The
board
does
not
find
any
evidence
about
her
physical
or
environmental
conditions.
Foreign.
A
A
Mr
Cannon,
yes,
Ms
Fleming,
yes,
Mr,
Gardner,
yes
and
Mr
Martin!
Yes,
all
right
is
that
carries.
I
will
get
a
written
version
of
your
variance
to
you
within
the
next
couple
of
days.
It
will
send
vocabulary
up
to
the
code
inspector
as
well,
so
you'll
be
already
moving
forward.
Thank
you
by
Memorial,
Day.
C
It's
focus
on
those
yeah
sure
appreciate
it,
and
I
Megan's
got
a
little
slide.
There
might
just
be
helpful.
I'll
try
to
be
Memory
because
I
know
we've
we've
had
in
the
previous
conversation,
but
there
are
some
changes
that
I
think
we
want
to
draw
some
convention
too.
So
imagine
if
you
did
this,
is
our
proposal
and
I'll
go
into
quickly
to
change
it,
but
we're
currently
seeking
24
apartment
units.
We
still
have
a
ground
floor
Leasing
and
we
still
have
two
variances,
although
significantly
reduced.
C
This
was
the
original
site
plan
that
was
seen
as
part
of
our
previous
submission
and,
as
you
can
see,
no
parking
provided
same
general
for
print
and
the
next
slide
will
show
our
proposed
site
plan.
So
what
you'll
see
primarily
is
now
the
introduction
of
a
parking
lot.
We
got
a
lot
of
feedback
from
you
all
at
our
last
session
that
we've
developed.
You
all
felt
that
parking
was
important
and
we
went
back.
C
We
surveyed
adjacent
properties,
kind
of
scoured,
where
we
could
to
find
options
to
provide
parking
and
we're
able
to
come
to
an
agreement
with
the
adjacent
property
owner
to
go
by
that
parcel.
We
didn't
use
that
as
an
opportunity
to
expand
the
building.
The
building
is
the
same
shell
size
square
footage.
All
we
did
with
that.
Property
is
put
as
many
parking
spaces
as
we
could.
Electric
equipment.
C
So
this
is
a
quick
summary
of
the
changes,
and
so
what
you'll
see
is
related
to
lot
area.
Our
previous
request
was
for
9131
square
feet
based
on
the
unit
bed
configuration
that
we
presented
the
unit
and
the
unit
mix
comparison
is
there.
Our
current
requested
variance
is
599
square
feet.
Which
is
less
than
three
percent
variance
by
percentage.
C
In
our
original
request,
we
needed
34
parking
spaces.
We
were
providing
zero
based
on
our
revised
unit
mix.
We
have.
We
need
20
Spaces
by
zoning,
we're
providing
nine,
actually
there's
29
spaces
required
and
we're
providing
nine.
So
the
variance
request
is
20.
C
So
just
a
quick
summary,
some
of
the
mitigations
and
supplemental
information
you're
familiar
with
but
I
just
figured
some
of
the
new
ones
who
are.
Maybe
a
department
should
draw
attention
to
still
no
change
in.
You
know
the
demand
for
studios
and
one
bedrooms
and
trying
to
accommodate
that
market
demand.
We
did
go
back
and
primarily
eliminated
our
Studios,
so
we
had
20
degree
Studios.
C
Previously
we
reduced
that
to
seven
and
and
then
mixed
in
primarily
two
and
four
bed
units
to
bring
our
overall
unit
count
down
and
as
noted,
we
agreed
the
person
purchase
the
adjacent
lot
to
reduce
the
area,
variance
below
a
significant
threshold.
C
On
the
parking
side
we
had
talked
extensively
previously,
we
do
have
private
shuttle
services
at
College,
Town
Terrace,
which
would
be
extended
to
the
property.
You
know
it's
a
very
walkable
location
bus
stops
car
shares
and
we
now
have
the
introduction
of
nine
spaces
on
site.
We
are
and
I'll
let
John
speak
to.
We
are
providing
a
long-term
lease,
which
is
something
that
the
board
had
asked
us
about
and
whether
we
were
willing
to
entertain.
C
So
we
are
agreeing
to
provide
long-term
leads
for
20
spaces,
which
is
the
variance
requested
and
I
know
that
we
had
gotten
some
previous
feedback
on.
If
that's
an
agreement
that
survives
ownership
change
and
how
that
works
and
John
can
speak
to
that.
But
the
intention
is
to
write
that
and
structure
it
in
such
a
way
that
neither
party
can
terminate
that
agreement
unless
there
was
a
change
in
zoning
which
would
remove
the
partner
requirement
for
property
and.
C
A
B
B
Thank
you
for
your
service.
Of
course,
you
guys
see
people,
they
do
all
the
time.
It's
not
an
easy
job.
The
the
thing
I
asked
my
boards
do.
That
we
would
ask
you
folks
to
do
is
to
employ
the
so-called
balancing
tests
for
the
granting
of
an
area
variance
which
essentially
means
as
you
Analyze
This.
You
ask.
You
know
what
what
are
the
benefits
to
the
applicant,
which
I
think
the
the
neck
and
the
team
have
demonstrated
quite
ably
as
compared
to
one
of
the
negative
impacts.
B
If
the
variances
are
granted
in
our
in
our
judgment,
there
literally
are
no
negative
impacts.
We
understand
that
BCA
has
a
job
to
require
the
applicant
prove
their
case
and
that's
what
we
that's
what
we
feel
that
and
done.
If
we
look
at
those
five
criteria,
we
break
them
down,
we
think
it
balances
out
quite
nicely
in
our
favor
and
that
you
will
end
up
with
a
terrific
project
for
the
city.
So
the
first
question
you
have
to
ask
is
whether
there
would
be
an
undesirable
change
in
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
B
If
these
variances
are
granted,
then
we
see
that
we've
addressed
that
in
the
written,
narrative,
submission
and
we've
also
employed
an
expert
to
give
their
opinion.
That's
saratogias,
Saratoga
Associates
and
their
CV
is
attached
to
their
opinion
and
they
they
also
go
through
the
Five
Point
criteria.
So
if
you
had
a
chance
to
look
at
that,
I
think
you're
going
to
see
that
they've
done
a
very
nice
job
and
with
regard
to
criteria
number
one
they've
concluded
as
we
think
you
will
that,
of
course,
there
will
be
no
negative
or
undesirable
change
to
the
neighborhood.
B
If
this
project
is
approved,
as
requested
keeping
in
mind
that,
on
a
number
of
occasions,
the
the
bza,
as
has
the
Planning
Commission,
provided
suggestions
to
the
applicant
and
they've
actually
taken
those
to
heart
and
they've
gone
ahead
and
employed
those-
including
in
my
33
years
of
doing
this-
it's
some
pretty
considerable
stuff,
such
as
buying
a
adjacent
piece
of
land,
in
order
to
make
these
variances
less
substantial,
which
is
what
they've
done
so.
We
hope
that
you'll
take
that
into
consideration.
B
So
they've
concluded
that
our
team
is
concluded
that
we
hope
you
will.
The
second
criteria
is:
can
this
benefit
be
achieved
by
some
other
method?
And
again
this
ties
into
exactly
what
we're
talking
about.
We've
acquired
that
additional
property.
So
we've
tried
to
find
a
way
to
do
this
without
the
original
variances
that
we
requested,
which
I
think
Dearborn
felt
were
too
substantial
to
be
comfortable
with
and
that's
fine.
So
what
we
did
is
we
listened
and
we
taken
the
ideas
and
suggestions
you've
given
us,
if
we've
actually,
we've
actually
implemented
it
into
the
project.
B
So
now
it's
in
the
project,
so
we
think
that
criteria
two
has
also
been
met
and
Saratoga
Associates
has
its
own
analysis,
which
I
recommend
you
take
a
look
at
because
I
think
it's
very
convincing
are
the
requested.
Variance
is
substantial
again.
The
project
has
changed
to
make
these
less
substantial
significantly
with
the
area
that
was
required
and
I'm
guessing
that
the
amount
of
variants
we
need
on
this
entire
lot
area
is
smaller
than
the
size
of
this
room.
Substantially
smaller
I
would
say
so.
I
think
that's
a
very
insubstantial
awareness.
B
The
parking
variance
was
higher
than
it
was
greater.
Department
originally
was
higher
than
it
was
before,
and
now
it's
been
reduced
down.
Nick
ably
explained
the
things
that
we've
done
and
we
brought
it
into
something.
That's
very
manageable.
We've
got
the
nine
spots
by
purchasing
that
land,
and
on
top
of
that
he's
outlined
the
various
mitigations.
B
You
ask
yourself:
what
is
the
negative
impact
for
granting
the
variance
on
that
heartbeat
I?
Don't
think
we
can
identify
one
I
can't
identify
one,
and
and
no
nobody
from
the
public
or
any
of
your
various
departments
has
identify
so
I
feel
like
we've.
We've
done
a
good
job
of
that
as
well
the
physical
environmental
conditions.
What
would
this
do
your
your
Planning
Commission
was
your
lead
agency?
They
did.
B
They
used
a
full
environmental
assessment
form
I
think
it
was
a
type
one
action,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
so
they
did
a
hard
look
on
the
environmental
impacts
of
the
project
and
you
know:
I
haven't
I,
had
I,
don't
read
from
that
resolution,
but
they
went
Point
by
Point
by
point
on
average
16
different
areas
of
environmental
impact,
every
single
one.
They
said
no
substantial,
negative
environmental
impacts.
I
think
that
one
also
has
been
satisfactory
address.
Lastly,
was
the
the
different
was
self-created
and
my
legal
advice
to
all
of
my
boards
is:
it's
always
self-created.
B
We
wouldn't
be
here,
and
we
wouldn't
be
asking
you,
but
it
wasn't
self-created,
but
I
also
remind
my
boards
that
that's
not
a
determinative
factor
for
an
area
variants,
a
used
France.
Yes,
an
area
variants.
No,
it's
you
just
put
it.
You
put
it
into
the
blender
and
you
add
it
up
and
you
throw
it
into
the
balancing
test.
B
So
by
the
time
you
look
at
each
of
those
factors
and
consider
the
evidence
that
we
provided
and
the
fact
that
there's
been
no
identified
negative
impacts
to
the
area
to
the
environment,
to
any
of
these
criteria.
I
think
you're
going
to
end
up
with
a
decision
that
says
that
the
board
should
be
comfortable.
Granting
these
variances
under
that
test,
but
I
forget
did
I
forget
anything.
A
I,
don't
have
any
questions
very
comprehensive
and
we've
seen
it
a
couple
times
so
again,
thanks
I'm
helpful
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
have
the
City
attorney
review
the
parking
lease
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
hold
up
an
approval
for
that,
but
maybe
you
may
get
a
check
mark
item
on
the
role
of
information
further
okay
from
everything
you've
represented.
That
sounds
good.
A
All
right,
no
I
think
this
is
the
proposal,
given
the
experience
that
we're
working
is
I.
Think
I
hope
that
the
city
will
consider
you
know,
modifications
of
minimum
parking
requirements
and
the
more
Transportation
demand
in
cases
like
this.
That's
not
up
to
us
so
and
given
that
I
think
this
is
a
good
proposal
who
compromises
practical
problem.
A
You
know
it's
because
it's
only
rid
of
a
lot
of
discussion
on
this
with
a
couple
of
things.
A
few
years
ago,
when
I
heard
that
there
were
Surplus
spaces,
I
was
I
was
very
skeptical,
and
so
every
semester
I've
driven
those
carbon,
manages
just
out
of
curiosity.
There
are
a
lot
of
business.
This
is
not
nobody's
stretching
this.
A
The
other
thing
I've
noticed
is
the
hour
bus
is
I've,
got
to
believe
that
New
York,
City
bus
eliminates
cars
up
here
to
someone
I
think,
and
it
just
seems
like
little
things
like
that,
although
they're
not
coordinated
by
the
city,
didn't
know
what
we
need
to
use
Transportation.
So
what
important?
A
Just
one
quick
question,
so
you
guys
use
parking
for
college
town
Paris
for
a
couple
locations,
be
this
one
presenting
requirements
and
then
also
for
Catherine
Collins
for
zoning
requirements.
Did
you
consider
going
and
getting
a
variant
for
college
town
in
Paris
to
sort.
A
A
C
A
Into
Apartments,
because
it
was
so
underutilized
and
the
board
did
not
react
very
favorably.
B
A
The
public
okay,
they
only
have
we
don't
have
any
comments
from
the
interested
parties
in
support
of
the
variants.
We
do
have
comments
in
that
position,
which
I
have
forwarded.
I,
think
you
should
have
that
in
our
room
as
well.
I
will
read
it
to
all
concerns.
A
Your
proposal
has
within
another
ugly
building
more
traffic,
more
cars,
more
trash
around
the
small
neighborhood
area,
so
close
to
resident
homes,
What
a
Sad
commentary
that
you
would
tear
down
the
two
well-built
beautiful
houses,
pleasing
to
the
eye,
replacing
them
with
an
ugly
structure.
Why
are
you
not
building
long-lasting
homes
or
remodeling?
The
beautiful
older
well-built,
stronger
houses
that
last.
B
A
Catch
the
eye,
because
of
their
unique
attractiveness,
would
you
live
in
one
of
these
trashy
looking
buildings?
Would
you
want
them
riding
your
property
near
you
selling
homes,
to
families,
promotes
ownership,
responsibility
and
leading
the
Legacy
to
their
children?
What
about
local
families
being
a
goal
investing
in
homeowners
and
future
of
their
children?
Who
will
live
in
or
sell
high
quality,
long,
lasting
beautiful
houses?
How
to
restore
ownership
in
in
storing
land?
For
the
present
and
future?
A
One
can
appreciate
the
study
of
an
observance
of
beauty,
I
admonish
an
appeal.
You
remember
that
we
are
made
for
beauty
and
Longevity.
Thank
you
for
your
attention.
Mrs
Gretchen
crowdmail
at
933,
East
State
Street.
A
A
The
lead
agency
finds
that
the
applicants
mitigations
for
the
Austria
parking
variants,
which
include
a
parking
lot
on
a
recently
acquired
adjacent
partial,
a
large
amount
of
parking
available
on
the
adjacent
property
car,
share,
Transit,
accessibility,
private
shuttle
and
walkability
to
be
substantial
and
do
mitigate
the
need
for
on-site
parking.
The
lead
agency
also
believes
this
is
an
appropriate
location
to
achieve
density
and
that
the
potential
tenant
population
of
students
are
less
likely
to
need
or
have
cars
they
find.
A
This
is
in
line
with
with
what
the
city
wants
to
accomplish
in
college
town
and
in
nearby
locations.
The
lead
agency
finds
that,
due
to
the
proposed
unit
mixed
in
the
proposed
apartment,
building
is
actually
not
as
dense
as
it
could
be
with
fewer
units
in
terms
of
head
down
further.
They
support
this
variance
as
they
support
density
in
this
location.
They
find
no
longer
return.
No
long-term
effects
to
planning
the
planning
board
recognizes
the
extensive
efforts
by
the
applicants
to
mitigate
and
reduce
their
variances.
A
I
agree
that
it's
very
sad
when
older
and
attractive
homes
or
torn
down
and
we've
made-
and
that
happens
all
of
these
states
through
the
College
San
Francisco.
It
is
very
sad.
Decisions
were
made
by
the
city
to
provoke
density.
A
I
hope
I,
hope
that
the
city
can
develop
policies
to
promote
emotion,
I
think
it's
a
serious
Gap
in
our
housing
operations
and
I
wish
that
there
were
incentives
for
people
to
rehabilitate
Loveland,
open
homes
that
are
pleasing
to
deny
and
then
do
all
of
her
opportunities
for
investment,
energy
owns
or
residents.
I.
Don't
have
any
problems
in
that
context.
With
this
particular
area,
there
is.
A
I,
don't
have
any
concerns,
I
mean
it
seems
like
the
plan
is
essentially
the
same
as
before.
I,
don't
think
it
makes
sense
to
make
them
to
redesign
their
whole
building
to
deal
with
a
three
percent
variance
there.
So
if
we
want
to
be
parking
commercial,
what
was
a
little
concern
to
me
is
even
less
so
now
in
some
ways.
A
I
think
that
it
was
a
failure
of
the
board
to
require
them
to
buy
a
vacant
lot,
which
is
put
in
a
parking
lot
when
that
could
theoretically
have
been
housing,
a
single
family
house
or
something
better
than
dying
hard
in
spaces.
But
that
is
beyond
my
purview
tonight
and
they
have
done
what
we've
asked
them
to
do.
Just
ride
more
parking
along
with
that
they've
released
20
additional
faces
at
a
property
very
close
by
that
has
for
as
long
as
I
have
been
involved
in.
A
City
boards
sometimes
has
forever
been
under
occupied,
so
I
see
no
issue
with
the
Department
variants
that
they
requested.
B
A
I'm
I'm
fine
with
it,
but
I'd
echo,
my
fellow
board
member
I,
wish
to
see
the
gun
deal
with
parking
issues
that
have
changed
over
the
last
15
years.
A
Yeah
I
think
you
know
like
looking
back
the
past
meeting.
My
concerns
were
primarily
with
the
area
variants
and
then
you
know
the
lot
coverage
less
to
do
with
the
parking
you
know,
I
think
it
isn't
substantial
variance
that
they
have
a
very
unique
maintaining
factor
and
that
they
have
a
parcel
next
door
that
they
can
lease
parking.
Actually,
it's
as
strong.
They
have
offered
up
a
long-term
lease
agreement
which
no
other
Republican
has
ever
done
before,
which
is
fairly
unique.
A
You
know
from
a
process
standpoint,
and
do
you
think
this
deviates
slightly
from
how
we
typically
use
parking
variances?
You
know
this
morning
in
the
past
applicants
you
know
maximize
their
parking
on
site
and
we're
choosing
not
to
do
that
in
this
case.
But
again
they
have
a
very
unique
mitigating
factor
that
and
I
I,
don't
think
there's
any
other
project
in
the
city.
A
If
Ithaca,
that
can
do
that,
I
have
preferred
to
see
a
variance
request
for
college
town
terrorists
for
a
large
number
of
parking
spaces,
and
it
would
have
been
I
think
a
very
easy
appeal,
but
given
Insurance
not
to
do
that,
we
can
only
consider
this
one
I
don't
have
any
concerns,
they
do
think
longer
term,
as
we
start
to
sack
these
attentive
appeals
on
top
of
each
other.
A
There
could
be
an
issue
but
find
out
if
that's
on
us
or
not
and
I
agree
with
the
word
as
a
whole.
That
I
would
hope
that
we
could
see
some
changes
in
the
archery
Zoning
for
parking.
A
You
know,
I
will
note,
I
mean
it
is
somewhere
ironic
and
just
did
an
archery
where
the
applicator
provided
all
the
parking
spaces
on
site.
But
you
know
I
think
again.
It's
a
unique
Factor,
so
I'd
be
inclined
to
report
foreign.
A
Okay,
a
motion
to
Grant
variance
3248.
A
She
was
being
made
by
me
down
whether
an
undesirable
change
would
be
produced
in
the
character
in
the
neighborhood
or
a
definite
continued
by
property.
No,
the
proposed
project
is
located
on
a
lot
of
RFA
zone
or
multiple
buildings
like
with
juice
media
vicinity,
is
home
to
synchronic
family,
go
into
multiple
drawings,
including
several
very
large
apartment
buildings
and
parking
garages
with
regards
to
all
street
parking
variants.
A
A
No,
the
playing
board
that
Kingsley
agency
included
conduct
an
appropriate
environment
about
you
and
to
try
to
budget
within
question
variants
will
assemble
that
ultimately,
environment
issued
a
negative
declaration.
The
board
does
not
identify
additional
adverse
impacts
on
the
physical
or
environmental
conditions
of
the
neighborhood
of
the
difficulties
are
created
yet,
and
they
admit
that.
C
A
A
Do
we
have
anything
else
to
discussion,
presentation
well,.
A
A
They
provided
a
copy
of
materials
that
I
was
supposed
to
included
in
there
and
failed
to
do
so.
But
this
is
just
an
initial
presentation
to
get
some
feedback
so.
A
Kind
of
weak,
so
I'm
I'm
kind
of
weak.
For
my
thing,
but
the
doctor
contacted
me
yesterday:
sovereign.
A
D
Yeah
I'll
just
do
a
quick
intro,
so
we're
here
representing
Charlie,
O'connor
and
modern
living
rentals
for
his
property
at
601
East
State
Street,
which
is
it's
the
corner
of
East
State
Street
in
Ferris
place.
So
it's
kind
of
a
nice
little
property,
a
corner
lot
right
in
town
and
it's
a
it's
a
fairly
large
lot
with
a
sizable
open
space
in
the
back
of
the
property.
D
So
we're
you
know
we're
just
here
to
get
a
little
feedback
from
you
guys
on
the
on
on
your
thoughts
about
a
potential
variance.
There's
a
you
know:
there's
a
fairly
complex
approval
path
involving
the
site
plan
committee,
the
ilpc,
because
we're
in
the
historic
district
so
we're
trying
to
talk
to
both
you
and
the
ilpc
to
get
an
understanding
of
your
guys's
feelings
about
the
project
to
try
to
determine
a
path
forward
before
we
invest
heavily
in
developing
a
design.
D
So
we've
already
had
an
initial
site
plan
review,
pre-application
meeting
with
Megan
with
Brian
and
Rob
feldewall
and
Nikki
and
Lisa
us.
So
we've
discussed
the
project
a
bit
and
got
some
initial
feedback.
So
we
thought
our
next
step
was
to
to
get
in
front
of
you
guys
to
take
your
temperature
on
a
potential
variance
to
allow
us
to
proceed
along.
One
of
these
I
think
ideal
paths
for
the
project,
so
I'll
let
I'll
pass
the
cam.
You
can
sort
of
present
and
walk
us
through
everything
all.
E
Right:
hey
yeah,
thanks
for
taking
a
minute
to
provide
some
preliminary
advice,
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen.
E
E
E
This
project
is
kind
of
infeasible
if
we
were
to
build
it
within
without
encroaching
on
the
setbacks
and
additionally,
it's
essentially
incompatible
with
the
the
building
fabric
around
it.
So
we
did
a
initial
zoning
review
here,
showing
the
setbacks
and
essentially
the
space
right
here.
If
you
can
see,
my
cursors
is
kind
of
like
the
allowable
by
right
and
the
entire
lot
again
calculations
here,
sort
of
demonstrating
that
we
can
build
a
a
multi-family
building
with
up
to
six
units
on
this
site
based
on
the
area.
E
Just
to
sort
of
give
you
some
perspective
on
the
surrounding
buildings.
Ferris
place
has
a
few
sort
of
nicely
proportioned,
duplexes
and
multi-family
family
buildings
that
are,
they
have
a
rhythm
on
the
street,
so
we'd
sort
of
like
to
continue
that
Rhythm
by
building
sort
of
closer
to
the
rear,
lot
line.
E
Here's
a
an
approximation
of
sort
of
what
we
would
intend
to
do
again.
You
can
see
the
the
rear
yard
setback
and
the
fire
separation
distance
based
on
the
unsprink
alert
existing
building
leaves
a
very
narrow
strip
to
build
anything
sort
of
contextually
appropriate
in
we've
done.
Some
initial
mock-ups
of
the
floor
plans
essentially
we're
singing
it's
just
a
three-star
unit
that
has
an
embedded
basement
from
Ferris
place.
It
would
appear
as
a
two-story
structure
and
we're
intending
to
sort
of
you
know
maintain
compatibility
architecturally
with
the
historic
buildings
in
the
area.
E
It
is
in
the
historic
district
as
Michael,
San
and
yeah.
Essentially,
we
feel
that
ilpc
would
likely
be
unsupportive
of
a
building
that
has
a
form
that
would
fit
within
the
allowable
area.
So
so
we're
seeing
what
you
guys
would
think
if,
if
this
would
be
a
plausible
variance
request.
D
D
You
know
so
if
this
had
a
fairs
place
address,
the
rear
yard
would
be
on
the
top
of
the
page
and
the
building
would
actually
fit
kind
of
neatly
within
the
allowable
right,
and
even
you
know
just
to
make
an
appeal
to
urban
planning.
You
know
the
building,
as
proposed
here,
really
completes
I.
D
Think
the
just
the
pace
and
the
quality
of
the
urban
fabric
along
that
side
of
Ferris
place,
and
so
it
kind
of
seems,
like
a
you
know,
a
missed
opportunity
to
not
try
to
to
tie
into
that
Urban
Fabric
and
even
our
initial
conversations
with
Brian.
You
know
he
indicated
that
he
didn't
feel
confident.
D
The
ilpc
would,
you
know,
approve
some
sort
of
linear,
even
if
we
could
even
make
it
work
a
linear
building
sort
of
jammed
up
against
the
existing
building,
but
they
would
sort
of
look
pretty
favorably
upon
a
a
building
that
sort
of
Bridges
the
the
duplexes
on
Ferris
to
this
nice
Corner
building
on
East
State,
you
know,
Charlie,
did
you
know
Megan
I
I
threw
this
question
out
to
you.
We
don't
know
sort
of
who
in
the
city
determines
addresses
for
buildings,
but
that
was
the
other
question
is.
Could
we
just
change
this?
D
A
Yeah,
when
you
put
the
second
building
on
your
there's
by
adding
a
second
building
to
the
slot,
you
can't
you
can
avoid
the
rear
variance
because
and
at
the
same
time,
I
don't
think
it's
more
fit
that
my
advice
to
you
would
be
to
I.
Don't
think
it's
more
favorable
to
try
to
get
it
readdressed,
because
that
I
mean
the
addressing
is
clearly
to
avoid
the
bearings
for
this.
So
I.
A
Imagine
that
the
building
itself
might
have
a
Paris
Place
address
or
emergency
response,
but
in
terms
of
the
property
address,
I
I,
don't
think
that's
the
best
approach
and
wouldn't
support
that.
C
A
D
It's
the
relief
from
the
rear
yard
setback,
so
we're
compliant
with
lot
coverage
and
lot
size
per
number
of
dwellings.
There
is
a
parking
deficiency,
but
Charlie
has
off-site
parking
within
I.
Think
it's
I
forget
what
it
is:
the
500
foot
radius
of
this
site
so
he's
you
know.
If,
if
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
this
he's,
you
know
he'll
be
able
to
provide
leases
for
the
six
off-site
spaces
required
for
this
project,
so
we
think
other
than
the
rear
yard.
D
We
think
we're
compliant
with
all
other
zoning
requirements.
Is
that
correct,
Ken.
A
Megan
is
that
your
understanding,
foreign.
A
Because
there's
a
lot
of
shuffling
of
those
parking
spaces
and
double
check
a
lot
of
coverage,
but
definitely
the
rear
yard
is
probably
the
one
that
was
immediately
apparent.
A
E
D
Ahead,
mate,
no
I
was
gonna.
Could
you
just
repeat
the
first
part
of
your
question
before
the
intended
market
for
the
apartments.
A
D
So,
in
terms
of
target
market,
modern
living
rentals
I
think
almost
exclusively
caters
to
college
students.
They
own
a
number
of
properties
in
college
town,
mostly
renovated
historic
homes,
or
you
know
large
multi-family
homes,
the
intent,
the
intent
for
the
project
is
just
to
you
know,
expand
modern
living
rentals
portfolio
and
continue
to
increase
available
housing
in
town.
D
D
D
You
know
we
we
imagine
it
being
in
keeping
with
the
a
lot
of
the
duplexes
that
are
on
Fair's
place,
was
kind
of
the
design
idea
was
to
try
to
take
inspiration
from
those
window,
sizes,
window,
pacing,
roof
forms
and
quality
of
materials
to
design
this
building,
but
also
understanding
that
it's
in
the
historic
district.
We
kind
of
wanted
to
work
closely
with
the
ilpc
that
developed
the
building,
so
we've
kind
of
held
off
on
exterior
development
until
we
could
solidify
a
direction
and
have
some
design
charette
with
the
ilpc.
A
D
Infeasible
to
put
parking
search
along
various
place
there,
just
practically
speaking
and
I,
would
stress
that
and
I
know.
There's
like
a
just
looking
at
Google,
Maps
I
think
there's
some
like
protection
along
the
sidewalk
there
to
prevent
cars
from
like
careening
into
the
sidewalk
in
the
building
coming
down,
East
State
Street,
so
focusing
on
the
physical
characteristics
of
the
Barcelona.
A
Slope
that
make
it
impeachable
to
add
more
parking
on
site
and
then,
if
you've
got
these
parking
spaces
available
in
the
area,
I
would
focus
on
that
as
well
and
then
check
with
Megan
beforehand
to
make
sure
those
are
are
clean
spaces
that
you
can
give,
and
you
haven't
committed
elsewhere,
given
how
many
competing
agencies
are
involved.
On
that
kind
of
comment
on
these
effects,
I
assume
someone
will
figure
that
out
on
the
planning
board
and
the
iltc
side,
it
seems
like
you're
doing
something:
fine
right.
A
This
is
going
to
be
a
tough
lot,
so
we're
gonna
play.
Compliments
into
that,
but
stressing
out
this
is
the
you're
making
the
minimum
variance
ask
for
the
parcel
would
be
you
know
important,
and
then
you
know
from
a
design
perspective
if
they
start
pushing
you
in
a
direction
that
makes
some
of
these
asks
larger.
That
could
be
become
a
problem
with
us
on
the
Zone
board.
D
A
My
end
I'm
still
sort
of
grappling
a
little
bit
just
learning
the
ilpc's
authority
and
then
sort
of
navigating
that
so
I'm
just
curious
to
see
how
that
goes
through,
as
we
had
to
Andrea's
appointment
and
you
guys
are
doing
everything
right
in
my
mind
as
far
as
navigating
this,
so
just
yeah
to
the
best
of
your
ability
to
protect
your
property
rights
as
you
navigate
to
these
different
agencies
and
and
say,
go
for
it
and
I.
A
Think
having
two
front
yards
is
always
really
difficult
right,
keeping
it
to
the
envelope
what
you
can
to
the
best
of
your
ability,
and
then
we'll
see
you
up
here.
If
you
do
decide
to
push
something
forward,.
D
Okay,
I
appreciate
it
yeah,
it's
our
understanding
that
the
ilpc
actually
has
the
right
to
say
no
to
some
of
these
Arrangements.
You
know
that
they're
really
not
bound
to
work
with
us
to
do
anything
if
they
don't
like
anything.
So
it's
you
know,
sticking
the
building
in
a
in
a
really
sort
of
skinny
linear
fashion,
behind
the
existing
one.
D
They
have
every
right
to
say
no
to
you
know
so
and-
and
you
know
from
just
a
design
standpoint-
I
get
it
too,
like
I
think
this
project
would
be
the
best
layout
for
just
from
an
urban
planning
standpoint.
D
It's
you
know
it's
some
of
sometimes
the
one
size
fits
all
rules.
Don't
you
know,
make
sense
in
every
condition.
So
you
know
it's
a
nice
Urban
infill
lot
and
this
would
be
a
great
I
think
it
could
be
a
great
little
project
if
we
can
sort
of
get
over
the
rear
yard
setback.
So
I
don't
know
Mega
is
it?
Is
it
too
much
to
ask
just
to
get
a
sense
if
people
are
feel
like
it's
a
reasonable
variance
to
ask
for
like
I,
don't
know,
can't
ask
anybody
to
vote
on
anything.
A
Three
of
the
five
members
here
right
now
and
I
would
say:
you've
heard
suggestions
on
how
to
approach
Steve,
irons,
requests
and
I
think
so.
The
board
members
have
indicated
that
you
could
bring.
You
know
they
would
be
willing
to
consider
this,
but
realize
there's
other
boys
involved
as
well.
So
I
guess
that's
kind
of
what
I
would
recommend
before
to
say:
yeah
yeah.