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A
This
community
is,
you
know
that
is
because
of
the
type
of
community
and
and
because
we
are
a
small
municipality
after
all,
and
the
u.s
census
does
not
have
the
granularity
that
we
need
to
identify
those
communities
that
that,
because
of
covet
or
because
of
you,
know,
different
economic
social
attributes,
you
know
are
unable
to
participate
in
the
same
way
as
as
most
of
us
that
you
know
of
this
transformation.
A
A
So
we
begin
addressing
those
historical
inequities,
social
injustice
and
economic
inequality,
and
we
had
mentioned
when
we,
when
common
council
approved
that
definition,
that
the
sustainability
office
was
working
on
developing
a
justice
50
program,
and
this
is
derived
from
what
the
federal
government
is
calling
justice
40,
which
is
the
redirection
of
40,
of
the
economic
benefits
of
the
of
the
fight
against
climate
change
to
these
advanced
communities.
A
So
when
you
do
the
numbers-
and
you
realize
that
you
know
constant
disinvestment-
has
created
a
huge
wealth
and
income
gap
in
the
city
of
ithaca,
and
when
you
realize
that
when
we're
talking
about,
for
example,
electrification,
there
is
a
lot
of
work
that
needs
to
happen
in
in
just
perhaps
20
of
the
buildings
in
the
city.
Then
then,
you
realize
that
you
know
the
allocation
of
just
20.
30
40
may
not
be
enough.
A
According
to
our
own
calculations,
it
is
approximately
50
of
the
amount
of
money
that
will
be
used
to
retrofit
and
electrify.
Our
buildings,
for
example,
would
need
to
go
just
to
address
the
needs
of
those
more
vulnerable
than
the
rest.
So
that's
why
it's
it's.
The
program
is
justice.
50,
we
are
being
very
careful.
We
are
consulting
with
experts
in
across
the
nation.
A
Actually,
we
have
been
in
seminars
with
the
federal
government
with
the
state
government
and
we
believe
that
we're
getting
ready
to
make
a
a
formal
proposal
that
you
know
we
need
to
follow
the
process,
which
is
we
need
to
have
the
director
of
planning
and
development.
You
know
revise
reviewing
our
definition,
our
sorry
our
program
and
then
having
the
major
accepting
that
before
we
can
bring
it
to
to
committee,
but
that
is
the
current
status.
A
Given
that
we
are
very
close,
I
would
say
that
we
might
be
able
to
bring
it
to
committee
next
month.
B
Awesome
yeah.
I
would
love
to
see
that,
potentially
you
know
next
committee
just
because
I
don't.
I
think
it's
really
important,
that
we
don't
lose
sight
of
equity
in
regards
to
the
other
green
new
deal.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we're
making
this
if
we're
really
transforming
our
society
here
and
holding
up
to
the
values
that
we
did
in
that
statement
before
my
time
on
council,
we
have
to
make
sure
it's
working,
not
just
for
everyone,
but
especially
for
those
folks
who
have
been
left.
You
know
to
the
margins
historically,.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
jorge.
I
just
want
to
add
that
there
is
not
a
single
program
that
we
are
implementing
in
as
part
of
the
indica
green
deal,
where
equity
is
not
at
the
very
core.
Every
time
we
we
do
review
everything
who's
going
to
benefit
how
they're
going
to
benefit
how
we
are
going
to
make
sure
that
this
is
quantifiable.
A
So
all
of
that
is
happening
in
parallel.
It's
honestly,
very
difficult,
but
rebecca
has
been
wonderful
at
you
know:
diving,
really
deep
into
the
literature
and
and
consulting
with
experts.
So
so
I
I
am
very
confident
that
we're
gonna
come
up
with
something
that
would
be
not
only
acceptable
but
but
really
good
for
our
community
awesome
hope
to
see
you
guys.
D
Yeah,
I'm
really
excited
about
this,
the
pain
in
turns
and
the
website,
because
you
know
I
still
get
questions
that
I
know.
D
I've
talked
to
you
guys
about
this
already,
but
a
lot
of
questions
that
I'm
not
able
to
answer
things
that
you
don't
answer
right
now,
but
things
like
okay,
well,
the
liens
on
the
house,
but
it's
on
the
equipment
and
how
does
that
get
recouped
if
I
sell
that,
like
just
a
ton
of
property
owner
and
renter
experiences
so
that
they
can
feel
comfortable
applying
for
it
and
moving
forward
with
the
program,
so
super
excited
that
this
resource
will
be
here
so
that
we
can
answer
those
questions
that
way.
So
thank
you.
A
E
Yeah,
I
can
put
it
in
the
chat
as
well,
but
electrifyithika.org
is
the
new
landing
page
for
the
electrification
program
and
then
ign.org.
It
hasn't
been
built
out
yet
right
now
it
just
directs
right
back
to
the
current
city.
E
I
hope
you
all
can
still
hear
me.
You
guys
are
freezing
so
if
okay,
good
but
I'll
put
both
of
those
in
the
chat
as
well.
C
C
And
that
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
luis
and
rebecca.
Thank
you
good
night
last
voting
item
for
this
evening
is
an
exciting
one:
5.5
the
approval
of
capital
project,
to
enable
the
city
of
ithaca
to
apply
for
the
federal,
safe
streets
and
roads
for
all
planning
grant
opportunity.
B
Whereas
in
2002,
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law
established
the
new,
safe
streets
and
railroad
for
all
ss
for
a
federal
program
with
up
to
a
million
dollars
appropriate
in
fy
22,
the
local
match
of
20
of
the
project
cost,
whereas
local
municipalities
are
eligible
to
apply
for
funding
to
create
a
detailed
transportation
safety
action
plan,
either
individually
or
in
collaboration
with
other
municipalities.
B
Whereas
the
fy
22
notice
of
funding
opportunity
nofo
available
here
states
that
applications
with
multiple
municipality
partners,
partnering
to
create
a
plan
will
be
more
competitive
for
funding
and
applications
from
a
single
new
semester,
municipality
and
whereas
successful
creation
of
an
action
plan
in
the
grand
cycle
would
make
the
partnering
municipalities
eligible
to
apply
for
implementation
grants
in
the
future
years.
B
This
of
the
grant
program,
either
individually
or
in
collaboration
again,
and
whereas
the
city
of
ithaca
would
like
to
be
the
lead
applicant
on
this
planning
grant
application
with
multiple
neighboring
municipalities
exercising
interests,
expressing
interest
in
applying
as
joint
applicants,
including
the
following
in
alphabetical
order
as
written,
whereas
the
world,
the
city
of
ithaca
as
lead
applicant,
will
be
to
complete
the
other
application.
B
On
behalf
of
all
partnering
municipalities
for
the
fy22
funding,
with
an
application
due
date
of
september
15th,
whereas
all
named
municipalities
above
are
currently
pressing
presenting
resolutions
with
respect
to
governing
bodies
requesting
to
participate
in
this
project
and
agreeing
to
reimburse
the
city
of
ithaca
for
a
share
of
the
local
match
university.
B
But
the
engineering
staff
request
a
budget
to
fund
the
planning
project
in
a
whole
at
750
000,
to
be
eventually
reimbursed
80
by
the
grant,
with
individual
municipalities
reimbursing
the
state
of
the
cup
for
their
portion
of
the
20
local
match,
with
the
city
of
ithaca
responsible
for
a
local
match.
Maximum
of
75
000.
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved.
The
common
council
here
by
establishes
capital
projects
number
914
for
an
amount
not
to
exceed
750
thousand
dollars
to
pay
for
the
transportation
safety
action
plan
project.
B
With
the
understanding
the
project
will
be
perceived
only
if
the
city
is
awarded
the
mss-4a
grant.
The
grant
would
reimburse
80
of
the
project
costs
with
the
city
of
ithaca
and
the
local
and
the
other
neighboring,
which
falls
that
he's
providing
a
local
match
of
20
and
the
maximum
local
match.
The
city,
but
they
can
make
the
ride
at
75
000
and
be
a
further
resolve.
B
The
funding
for
said
transportation
safety
action
plan
project
shall
be
derived
from
the
advance
of
funds
from
general
fund
with
later
repayment,
from
the
safe
and
streets
and
road
for
all
federal
grants
and
be
it
for
the
result.
The
city
final
maximum
local
match
of
no
more
than
750
000
shall
be
derived
from
the
american
recovery
plan
act.
Arca
funds,
iso.
F
Yeah
thanks
just
a
correction
on
the
project.
Number
should
be
9
15.
C
I'll
move
that
correction
is
that
friendly
to
jorge
and
duckson
great
okay,
great.
C
It
may
be,
it
may
be
an
older
draft,
the
one
I'm
I'm,
I
pulled
mine
off
of
the
city
website
and
that
is
reflective
of
the
most
up-to-date.
There
were
a
couple
of
copies
that
were
emailed
around
so
perhaps
that's
just
an
older
version.
G
It's
totally
different
than
what
jorge
just
read,
but
is
this
the
downtown
ithaca
alliance
and
go
ithaca.
H
B
B
Okay,
here's
the
main
stuff-
if
you
can
see
it,
george.
C
C
Okay,
any
kind
of
preparatory
comments
you'd
like
to
share
before
colleagues
have
questions.
H
No,
I
think
simply
you
know
a
couple
years
ago,
the
city
adopted
vision,
zero
as
a
policy,
and
this
is
basically
a
funding
opportunity
to
create
a
plan
to
do
so.
You
know
to
create
a
strategic
vision,
zero
plan
and
how
we're
gonna
make
not
only
our
community
but
communities
around
us
in
partnership
with
them
safer
at
a
pretty
good
match,
and
so
that's
really
and
then
the
federal
funding
here
in
year,
one
of
a
five-year
plan
which
has
a
billion
dollars
of
funding
each
year.
H
C
All
right,
seeing
none
call
for
a
vote
on
this
all
in
favor.
C
And
that
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you
very
much
eric.
Thank
you
so
for
our
last
item
on
the
order
of
business
this
evening.
There's
a
presentation
from
flock
I'll
turn
this
over
to
faith,
who,
I
think
will
kick
us
off
and
then
the
rest
of
our
presenters
will
we'll
we'll
jump
in.
Thank
you
all
for
joining
us
this
evening.
Go
ahead.
Faith.
I
Thanks
rob
I
appreciate
it
so
tonight
we
have
a
presentation
from
flack.
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
couple
pieces
of
background.
Chief
julie
is
not
here
tonight,
however,
he
should
be
given.
You
know
credit
for
setting
this
up,
reaching
out
to
flac
getting
information
that
that
we
needed
from
them
just
so.
All
of
you
know
this
process
started
in
february
where
we
began
to
look
at
cameras
and
and
other
things
having
to
do
with
the
reimagining
public
safety
plan.
So
this
has
been
quite
a
while
in
the
making.
I
I
also
wanted
to
bring
up
that.
We
have
also
had
conversations
with
cornell
they're,
looking
at
flat
cameras
also,
so
we're
excited
to
bring
it
to
council
tonight,
and
I
know
it's
late,
so
I
appreciate
all
of
you
and
I
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
flock.
So
you
will
see
on
the
screen
that
gwen
is
here.
Laura
ann
is
here
and
josh
is
here
from
flock,
and
all
of
them
have
played
a
major
role
in
helping
us
kind
of
design.
I
How
this
would
look
specifically
to
the
city
of
ithaca
and
trying
to
meet
the
goals
of
the
community
goals
that
we've
set
and
also
help
really
everybody
in
the
community
slack
tries
to
support
community
needs
as
well
as
safety
and
protection,
and
I
think
that
jeff's
question
earlier
actually
is
pertinent
to
this
conversation
and-
and
we
have
really
welcomed
flock,
because
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
important
to
bring
up
is
that
flock
really
focuses
on
community
input
and-
and
I
will
let
them
take
over
and
talk
more
about
that.
I
But
you
know
we
know
that
we
focus
on
community
input,
and
that
is
one
of
the
really
critical
parts
of
you
know
what
council
really
wanted
to
do
with
a
lot
of
the
reimagining
public
safety
initiatives.
I
So
so
thank
you
to
flack
for
being
here
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
mary,
who
is
here
from
ipd
so
that
she
can
kind
of
give.
You
know
the
perspective
of
where
how
this
will
help
ipd,
and
I
believe
that
laura
ann
has
a
presentation,
and
so,
if
scott
could
share
with
laura,
and
that
would
be
amazing.
J
J
I
just
wanted
to
talk
about
ipd's
support
for
flock
and
how
we
think
it's
really
going
to
benefit
our
community,
but
first
off
it
does
meet
one
of
the
goals
of
reimagining,
which
is
to
supply
new
technology
that
will
improve
public
safety
and
with
the
research
we've
done,
we
really
feel
like
flock
cameras,
are
going
to
benefit
and
protect
every
member
of
our
community.
J
Secondly,
everybody
knows
that
the
police
department
is
in
a
staffing
crisis.
I'm
sure
everyone's
heard
it
over
and
over
again.
This
is
something
that's
going
to
help
support
officers,
it's
going
to
help
them
make
their
investigations
more
efficient,
and
it's
also
going
to
shorten
the
turnaround
time
for
solving
those
crimes.
J
Recently,
we've
had
quite
a
few
shootings
in
the
area
and
with
those
shooting
suspects
have
fled
by
vehicles
and
if
we
already
had
flock
in
place,
it
would
have
really
helped
us
solve
these
crimes
a
little
bit
quicker.
I
also
want
to
mention
we're
not
one
of
the
first
agencies
exploring
this.
It's
already
implemented
in
2500
cities
across
the
country.
I
know
most
of
the
bay
area
and
california
is
covered
by
flat
cameras,
seattle
providence,
so
this
is
a
proven
technology
and
also
our
friends
at
cornell
are
looking
into
it
as
well.
K
Yeah
good
evening,
everybody
thanks
mary
for
I'm,
giving
you
about
how
we
started
our
conversations
with
you
guys
in
ithaca.
K
I'm
really
happy
to
be
here
tonight
with
you
guys
to
talk
about
how
block
safety
can
partner
with
you
guys
to
promote
community
safety
through
providing
objective
data
block
in
general
is
a
public
safety
operating
system
that
utilizes
vehicle
data
collected
from
solar
powered
devices
to
promote
objectivity
and
accountability
in
policing.
K
So
within
our
technology,
the
data
that's
provided
is
a
vehicle
fingerprint.
If
you
look
at
this
picture
on
the
side
and
that's
the
basis
of
a
lot
of
investigative
cases,
I'm
finding
a
specific
vehicle
connected
to
a
crime
or
connected
to
a
person
in
need,
and
so
the
flock
system
actually
helps
folks
by
being
able
to
search
on
different
features
of
a
car
beyond
just
the
license
plate.
K
You
can
search
based
on
type
of
car
color
of
car
where
it
was
located,
and
this
indiscriminate
evidence
comes
from
fixed
locations
around
the
city
so
that
your
officers
will
be
able
to
know
if
a
vehicle
is
passing
in
ithaca
commons
or
passing
near
cornell
they'll
be
able
to
locate
the
vehicles
associated
in
the
direction.
K
An
important
piece
to
note
about
this
license
plate
reader
technology.
Is
that
it's
that
right?
It's
it's,
not
people
not
facial
recognition,
and
it
is
definitely
not
traffic
enforcement.
We
want
to
be
able
to
equip
your
community
with
objective
data
to
help
prevent
crime
and
we're
not
interested
in
the
traffic
enforcement
piece
of
license
plate
recognition.
K
Your
community
is
also
looking
at
an
enhancement
to
our
license
plate
reader
technology,
which
is
gunshot
detection.
I
think
you,
you
probably
have
all
seen
in
the
news
about
some
legacy,
gunshot
detection,
but
we
think
that
having
gunshot
detection
can
be
helpful
for
your
officers,
but
it's
not
the
only
piece
of
data
that
they
need
right.
K
They
need
to
be
notified
when
a
gunshot
occurs,
but
they
also
need
surrounding
evidence
to
know
if
they
need
to
respond
and
what
type
of
response
is
needed,
and
so
by
pairing
our
gunshot
detection
devices
with
our
flock
falcons,
which
is
our
license
plate
reader.
Your
community
is
able
to
go
from
a
tragic
incident
to
an
investigative
lead
immediately.
K
I
know
we
were
talking
with
mary
earlier
about
some
of
the
recent
shootings
that
you
guys
are
experiencing
and
so
having
this
data
would
have
been
helpful
for
them
to
be
able
to
know
what
kind
of
response
was
needed
and
where
the
response
is
needed
right,
instead
of
just
having
a
lot
of
officers
coming
to
one
scene
at
any
given
time.
Some
things
that
are
unique
about
our
gunshot
detection
is
that
it's
only
that
right.
It's
only
gunshot
events,
it's
nothing
else.
K
It
doesn't
detect
voices,
people,
it's
not
voice
activated
and
it
only
stores
a
very
short
five.
Second
audio
clip
of
the
event,
and
only
that
when,
when
it's
triggered,
I
think
some
helpful
ways
to
think
about
this
technology
is
really
three-fold.
Right.
K
So
first
you've
got
the
proactive
piece
of
block
where
we'll
be
able
to
provide
real-time
alerts
to
your
division
of
police
when
stolen
or
wanted
vehicles
enter
the
city
when
there's
a
shooting
incident,
and
so
those
proactive
alerts
will
be
able
to
help
them
respond
more
effectively
and
respond
when
they're
needed
right.
The
investigative
piece
is
if
there
is
a
tragic
incident,
if
there
is
a
crime
and
as
we
saw
you
might
have
seen
earlier,
we
know
that
seven
in
ten
crimes
are
committed
with
a
vehicle.
K
So
if
that
happens,
you'll
be
able
to
search
through
the
system
for
a
set
period
of
time
and
to
find
the
vehicles
that
were
associated
with
those
crimes,
and
so
we've
seen
in
other
communities
as
they
use
this
technology
and
investigations.
Clearance
rates
for
crimes
increase
and
crime
rates
actually
decrease
and
flock
acts
as
a
deterrent
in
communities.
So
making
communities
safer.
K
A
couple
of
things
I
want
to
make
sure
you
guys
know
what
this
is
and
what
it
isn't
right.
It
is
license
plate,
recognition,
it's
objective
evidence.
It
will
give
you
alerts
of
stolen
vehicles
that
are
on
regis
national
registers,
like
the
national
criminal
investigative
center,
the
national
exploited
and
missing
children.
Databases
is
connected
to
our
system,
senior
alerts
missing
people
alerts,
so
it
will
provide
your
officers
with
that
information
and
it
will
allow
them
to
respond
quickly.
Right,
like
I
said,
we're,
not
facial
recognition,
not
voice
recognition.
K
We
don't
do
biometric
we're,
not
interested
in
that
and
we're
not
tied
to
personally
identifiable
information,
one
piece
of
that
and
being
not
tied
to
personally
identifiable
information
that
I
want
to
confirm,
which
is
was
a
conscious
decision.
We
made
we're
not
connected
to
any
state
registration
of
cars
or
titles.
We
don't
find
out
who
who
actually
owns
the
vehicle
or
the
license
plate,
because
that's
something
your
department
can
access
outside
of
the
system,
and
so
we
don't.
K
Information
inside
the
data
that
we
collect
in
the
system-
I
think
this
to
me
is
the
most
important
part
of
the
message
we
want
to
share
with
you
guys
tonight.
I
know
that
this
is
what
faith
brought
up
earlier
and
I
think
it's
it's
one
of
the
most
unique
things
about
flock
safety.
K
So
we
know
that
community
health
and
safety
requires
more
than
just
improving
public
safety
technology
and
public
safety
response
in
order
to
create
safe
and
healthy
communities
right.
But
we
do
know
that
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
provide
better
tools
now
that
provide
objective
data
in
investigations,
and
we
know
that
this
technology
can
help
us
do
that.
K
But
we
also
know
that,
while
technology
can
help
us
improve
our
policing,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
hold
technology
accountable
to
our
values
and
that
we,
when
we
create
technology
that
is
driven
from
our
values,
we
can
create
a
world
that
we
have
control
over
the
technology
right
and
it
doesn't
just
perpetuate
biases
or
errors
into
the
future,
but
actually
helps
us
create
a
better
society
and
so
at
flock.
K
We
think
we've
been
able
to
do
that
by,
like
I
said,
driving
from
our
values
in
the
way
that
we've
designed
this
and
I'll
talk
through
a
few
of
the
ways
that
we've
done
that
intentionally
and
then
happy
to
answer
questions
at
the
end
about
it.
So
at
flock
the
way
our
system
is
structured
and
our
partnerships
are
structured.
You
and
ithaca
own
your
data.
K
We
will
we
don't
own
your
data,
we're
just
the
conduit
by
which
you
store
it
in
a
cloud
server,
and
so
because
you're,
the
owners
you're,
the
only
ones
who
can
choose
who
to
access,
sell,
share
your
data
right.
We
will
never
do
that,
so
you
have
an
opportunity
to
share
with
other
communities
around
you
to
help
improve
your
officer's
response
time
and
help
improve
investigations
in
other
places.
But
that's
your
choice
on
whether
or
not
you
want
to
do
that.
K
We've
got
a
30-day
data
retention
and
we
think
this
is
really
important,
because
other
legacy
providers
will
store
your
data
for
a
lot
longer,
but
at
flock
we
know
that
having
30-day
data
retention
and
then
deleting
it
helps
us
balance
the
need
to
have
investigative
data
for
longer
periods
of
time
and
the
need
to
protect
civil
liberties
and
not
create
you
know
a
reasonable
amount
of
data
collection
on
individuals.
K
We
also
know
that,
like
I
said
earlier,
this
objective
data
helps
us
take
human
bias
out
of
crime.
Solving
I'll
share
a
story
that
really
spoke
to
me
out
of
shelby
county
tennessee
and
mary
we've
talked
with
mary
about
this
earlier,
there's
an
individual
who
was
walking
down
the
street
and
was
assaulted
and
he
was
pistol-whipped
and
there
was
an
eyewitness
who
said
that
they
saw
a
young
black
male
in
a
49ers
hoodie
conduct
the
assault.
They
said.
They
also
saw
him
get
away
in
a
brown
truck.
K
So
previously,
before
flock
officers
would
have
been
stuck
finding
looking
out
for
men
in
49ers
hoodie,
young,
black
males
in
49ers
hoodies,
and
also
trying
to
find
a
brown
truck,
but
because
they
had
flock
installed,
they
were
able
to
focus
and
pivot
to
only
looking
at
the
vehicle
description
and
using
that
as
their
investigative
lead,
and
so
they
were
able
to
find
the
brown
truck
immediately
and
or
you
know,
within
a
few
hours
and
they
pulled
the
person
over
and
when
they
pulled
him
over.
K
They
found
that
this
individual
was
not,
in
fact
a
young
black
male.
It
was
an
older
gentleman
who
was
wearing
a
49ers
hoodie,
but
that
eyewitness
bias
would
have
been
involved
in
the
investigation
had
they
not
had
flock
to
go,
go
on
their
lead.
So
I
think
that's
a
like.
I
said
a
story
that
stuck
with
me
that's
helpful
for
seeing
how
this
objective
data
that's
not
associated
with
people.
K
It's
not
associated
with
our
own
human
bias
can
really
help
protect
our
communities
and
protect
people
who
might
otherwise
be
targeted
or
marginalized.
We're
happy
to
talk
more
about
cyber
security
too.
If,
if
you
guys
want
to,
I
that's
something,
that's
we
care
a
lot
about
at
flock
we're
all
soctu
certified.
We
have
you
know
white
hackers
who
are
constantly
trying
to
get
into
our
system
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
flaws,
but
we
the
way
our
system
works.
K
Is
that
we're
we,
our
devices,
don't
have
an
ip
address
attached
to
them,
so
you
can't
actually
hack
into
them
individually.
It
would
have
to
be
at
a
much
larger
level
on
the
cloud
storage
level
and
we
use
the
highest
level
of
aws
government
security
to
prevent
that
from
happening.
K
Another
piece
that
I
think
is
really
important
about
flock
that
makes
us
really
unique
is
that
we
actually
require
an
investigative
search
reason
to
conduct
a
search,
so
your
department's
actually
said
that
they'll
take
it
beyond
just
requiring
that
reason
and
attach
it.
A
specific
case
number
has
to
be
attached
to
each
search
and
you
cannot
conduct
a
search
in
our
system
without
that
field
being
completed.
K
We
also
provide
that
the
metadata
of
each
search
to
your
system
administrators,
so
they
can
see
proactively
how
the
searches
are
being
conducted,
who's
searching
when
they're
searching
what
they're
searching,
and
so,
if
there
is
any
potential
for
misuse,
we
will
proactively
provide
the
information
so
that
it
can
be
identified
and
nipped
and
and
have
the
proper
disciplinary
action
taken.
K
You
know
I
mentioned
all
the
things
that
flock
isn't
about
not
being
predictive
policing,
not
being
facial
recognition,
but
another
piece
that
we
really
care
about
is
transparency
and
we
actually
built
a
transparency
portal
for
all
of
our
customers
to
use
it's
completely
customizable,
based
on
what
you
guys
want
your
community
to
know
about
the
system,
but
it
includes
information
about
what
is
and
isn't
detected,
how
many
devices
that
you
have
who
you
share
with
how
you
can
and
can't
use
it?
K
You
know
we
think
that
that's
really
important
to
highlight
you
know
if
you
don't
want
to
use
it
for
immigration
enforcement.
If
you
don't
want
people
to
be
able
to
use
it
for
certain
things
that
can
be
included
in
your
transparency
portal,
and
it
can
also
share
who
you,
who
you
do
share
the
information
with.
K
We
can
share
outcomes
so
once
there's
successes,
we
can
put
that
on
the
transparency
portal
and,
I
think,
most
importantly,
the
alpr
policy.
The
automated
license
plate
reader
policy
that
your
department
is
in
the
process
of
developing
can
be
linked
onto
that
transparency
portal
for
your
whole
community
to
know
how
this
is
used.
K
I
think
this
piece
is
still
in
process
from
the
division
of
police
right,
but
they
want
to
get
your
input
as
the
representatives
of
your
community
about
what
you
would
like
to
see
in
this,
for,
if
they're
going
to
move
forward
with
using
this
technology,
and
so
we
typically
we've
provided
some
examples
from
other
departments,
but
we
typically
see
folks
cover
the
purpose.
K
You
know
allowed
uses
sharing
policy,
verifying
any
notifications
or
hot
lists
before
action
and
establishing
protections
right
so
making
sure
your
policy
includes
your
data
retention
policy,
so
saying
you
know,
we've
said
we're
going
to
store
the
data
for
30
days.
We
also
encourage
you
to
say
that
you'll
store
the
data
for
that
period.
K
Any
audit
procedures
from
that
audit
report
that
I,
that
I'd
described
in
any
misuse
policy
and
training
and
I
think,
faith
we
talked
about
sending
out
a
survey
on
these
specific
points
after
the
fact
for
your
department
to
use
as
they're
developing
their
own
policy,
so
that'll
be
in
some
follow-up
material
for
you
guys
and
lastly,
on
this
piece
about
accountability
and
transparency.
As
faith
mentioned,
we
care
a
lot
about
community
engagement
and
involvement.
K
We
think
that,
that's
you
know
the
most
vital
piece
of
having
safe
communities
is
having
everybody
involved:
right:
businesses,
neighborhoods
government
and
elected
officials
and
traditional
public
safety
officers,
and
so
we
do
this
around
the
country
where
we
set
up
community
education
events,
and
we
have
community
members
come
out
and
talk
to
us
about
their
concerns
about
what
they'd
like
to
see
their
department
use
this
for
not
use
it
for,
and
so
we've
we've
started
conversations
with
the
division
of
police
and
with
faith
about
what
this
could
look
like
in
ithaca,
and
we
are
proposing
that
over
the
next
month
that
we
work
alongside
you
all
to
get
feedback
from
your
community
about
this
work
with
the
police,
benevolent
association,
to
hear
their
thoughts,
maybe
host
a
town
hall
with
cornell
with
business
owners
and
happy
to
hear
your
feedback
on
ideas
for
what
you'd
want
to
to
get
out
of
these
meetings
and
where
you
might
want
to
host
them.
K
I
think
I'll
just
end
on
a
few
case
studies
that
we've
seen
where
you
could
see
how
this
could
actually
work
in
ithaca
and
what
it
could
do
for
your
city.
So
first
story
is
out
of
cambly
georgia.
We
are
founded
in
atlanta,
georgia,
and
so
chamblee
is
a
neighboring
city.
That
was
one
of
our
first
customers
and
there
was
a
stranger
on
stranger
abduction
and
this
sweet
one-year-old
was
taken
from
their
mother
at
while
they
were
out
on
a
walk,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
know
this.
K
I
did
not
previously,
but
it's
really
hard
to
solve
stranger
on
stranger
abductions,
because
you
don't
have
enough
data
and
evidence,
and
typically
folks
who
conduct
stranger
on
stranger.
Abductions
are
intending
to
hide
it
right.
So
they've
got
a
plan
of
action,
so
this
happened
by
12
30.
There
was
a
amber
alert
issued
and
then
the
officers
went
onto
the
flock
system
and
found
the
vehicle
that
the
mother
described
that
had
abducted
her
child.
So
within
a
couple
of
hours
they
found
another
hit
on
that
vehicle.
K
A
couple
of
counties
over
and,
I
think
important
to
note
they
found
that
hit
be
not
because
of
the
license
plate
alone,
but
because
it
was
the
same
description
of
the
car
and
it
had
custom
tires.
K
It
wasn't,
you
know,
just
the
license
plate
because
they
had
actually
planned
in
advance
and
taken
off
their
license
plate
and
put
on
a
temporary
tag
to
conduct
the
abduction,
so
they
were
able
to
find
the
vehicle
and
then
obtained
all
of
the
important
warrants
in
order
to
conduct
a
felony
stop
and
then
were
able
to
return
the
child
within
six
hours,
and
that's
just
really
unheard
of
in
stranger
on
stranger
abduction,
investigations.
But
with
this
technology
they
were
able
to
act
quickly
and
have
the
right
data
to
act.
K
Another
example
in
perth,
amboy
new
jersey,
they've
been
a
customer
for
a
short
time
and
have
already
seen
a
lot
of
success,
but
one
high-profile
investigation
that
they
were
able
to
use
flock
technology
to
help
share
with
neighboring
jurisdictions
to
solve
is
actually
the
nyc
subway
shooting
and
they
were
able
to
confirm
the
u-haul
that
the
individual
used
during
that
awful
event
in
brooklyn
and
help
establish
a
timeline
for
the
investigation.
K
You
know:
we've
we've
got
story
as
stories
that
if
you
have
questions
about
what
it
can
be
used
for,
we
can
pull
them
up.
But
I
pulled
this
example.
K
Specifically
from
cranston
rhode
island,
where
there
was
gunfire
outside
of
a
bar-
and
you
know
terrible
situation,
I
can't
imagine
being
in
line
to
get
into
my
favorite
spot
and
then
having
gunfire
erupt,
but
these
investigators
had
installed
flock
a
few
months
earlier
and
saw
were
able
to
identify
the
two
alleged
shooters
in
the
vehicles
and
make
suspect
identification
within
a
couple
of
weeks,
which
otherwise
would
have
been
unheard
of
I'll
leave
you
with
this
final
case
study
before
I
turn
it
back
over
to
mary
in
faith,
but
this
is
one
example.
K
We've
see
we
see
these
across
the
country
where,
over
time
after
having
this
technology
in
place,
crime
actually
drops
significantly
in
communities.
So
this
is
from
gwinnett
county.
This
is
only
one
precinct
in
gwinnett
county
that
installed
these
devices,
but
they
saw
a
significant
drop
in
pretty
much
all
crime
after
they
installed
this
technology
homicide
aggravated
battery
commercial
burglary
being
the
the
three
highest
examples,
but
I
think
this
is
just
a
good
example
of
the
types
of
drops
that
you'll
see
in
creating
a
safer
ithaca.
J
Yeah
sure,
just
with
the
we
spoke
about
the
raven
gunshot
detection
technology
and
when
we,
if
the
flock
cameras
pass
and
we
strategically
decide
where
we
would
want
to
place
them,
we
spoke
about.
One
of
our
goals
is
having
these
cameras
near
schools.
So
if
there
was
ever
worst
case
scenario,
an
active
shooter
situation
that
camera
would
pick
up
the
sound
of
a
shotgun,
it
would
alert
officers
and
that
would
help
us
get
a
faster
response
to
such
a
time.
J
Sensitive
event
where
seconds
really
do
matter
and
just
the
second
point
I
wanted
to
make.
While
you
were
talking-
and
you
spoke
about
the
abduction
story.
Actually,
I
responded
to
a
call
a
couple
years
ago.
I
think
it
was
in
february
2020,
where
I
responded
to
fall
creek
for
an
attempted
abduction
of
a
student
who
was
walking
to
school.
J
I
believe
we
only
had
the
vehicle
color,
I'm
not
sure
if
we
had
the
make-
and
I
remembered
how
intensive
that
investigation
was,
because
it
took
everybody
on
the
road
where
we
were
canvassing
going
house
to
house
looking
at
different
houses
to
see
if
they
had
ring
doorbell
cameras
if
anyone's
ever
seen
a
ring.
Doorbell
camera
they're,
they're
good
for
personal
home
security,
but
you
really
can't
get
plates
off
of
them.
J
J
So
I
just
think
this
tool
would
be
invaluable
for
for
time,
saving,
but
other
than
that,
I
think
you
covered
a
lot
of
great
points
about
why
we're
so
interested
in
this
technology.
I
Yes,
I
think
that's
probably
a
good
place
to
start.
I
also
want
to
bring
up
costs,
because
I
know
that
a
lot
of
you
have
questions
about
cost.
So
I
can.
I
can
let
you
know
that
that
the
technology
we
did
go
through
the
city
with
mapping
systems
as
to
how
many
cameras
we
may
need,
as
well
as
cornell,
did
too
to
figure
out
what
cornell,
how
many
corn,
how
many
cameras
cornell
would
need
to
do
it.
I
We
obviously
would
like
to
hit
you
know
every
entrance
and
exit
to
the
city
and
I'm
sure
laura,
and
can
talk
more
about
that.
If
you
have
more
specific
questions,
I
do
want
to
say
before
I
I
mention
the
cost
that
this
is
a
presentation
right,
so
we
we're
not
voting
we're
just
giving
information
and
and
felt
like
this
was
the
right
time
to
do
that.
I
So,
if
we
did
35
cameras,
which
is
the
most
so
I'm
giving
you
like
the
most
case
scenario
or
yeah,
the
most
cameras
that
we
would
need
within
the
city,
it
would
be
a
total
of
140
000
and
the
cost.
I
K
And
on
that
cost,
one
of
the
things
that
flock
tried
to
do
with
our
company
is
we
wanted
to
make
this
technology
affordable,
and
I
didn't
include
that
as
much
of
my
presentation
tonight,
but
our
devices
are
actually
just
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
per
device
and
that
actually
gets
you
access
to
the
whole
system.
You
won't
own
the
devices
we
have
a
leasing
model,
and
so
that
means
you
don't
have
to
maintain
them
or
take
care
of
them.
K
We've
got
technicians
that
will
do
all
of
that,
so
really
per
device
you're
paying
for
access
to
the
system
and
data
storage.
K
Yes,
yeah
definitely
so
I
think
I
mentioned
earlier
about
our
value
of
protecting
the
whole
community
right
all
of
us
working
together.
So
we
actually
have
a
public
private
partnership
model
where
we
will
sell
to
governments
and
their
law
enforcement
partners,
but
we'll
also
sell
to
some
quasi
government,
so
bids
development
authorities
will
sell
also
to
commercial
entities
to
businesses
into
neighborhoods,
and
that
actually
enables
you
to
have
a
wider
network
so
that
you've
got
more
of
these
devices
available
for
your
community.
When
you
need
it.
I
And
I
also
want
to
bring
up
the
fact
that
walmart
has
walmart
has
a
contract
with
flack?
Is
that
how
it
goes?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we.
K
Yeah,
so
we
have
a
ongoing
relationship
with
walmart,
so
you
know
each
one
is
different,
but
it
could
be
something
that
the
walmart
in
your
community
could
could
purchase.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Well,
I
guess
we'll
get
the
question
and
answer
portions
started.
I'm
actually
going
to
kick
it
off
laura
hand.
C
You
know
privacy
is
a
pretty
big
concern
for
me,
as
you
may
be
familiar,
the
city
has
sanctuary
provisions
for
both
non-cooperation
with
ice,
as
well
as
non-cooperation
with
vigilante
investigations
into
reproductive
health
care
and
I'm
sort
of
curious.
If
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
access
that
your
firm
has
to
these
data,
because
I
don't,
I
would
not
want
to
see
a
scenario
where
records
were
sort
of
demanded
from
you
all
the
city
has
a
you
know,
has
the
ability
to
withhold
that
information
under
our
laws.
C
I
understand
you're,
a
company
you
have
you
know
you
might
I'm
not
sure
where
all
you
have
a
footprint,
but
I
am
concerned
about
that
piece
of
it
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
see
if
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
maybe
interoperability
isn't
the
right
word
here?
But
you
you
talk
about
the
public-private
partnership.
What
is
the
extent
of
access
that
private
individuals
would
have
to
this
network
in
the
city
where,
where
are
those
guard
rails.
K
Yeah,
absolutely
okay,
so
we'll
start
with
the
first
question
and
first
and
foremost
I
mentioned
this,
but
you
own
your
data
right.
So
that
means
you
decide
who
you
sell
and
share
it
with
we.
We
do
not
do
that
and
I'm
happy
to
send
you
an
example
contract
term
before
the
next
meeting.
So
you
can
see
how
that's
laid
out,
but
we
think
by
you
owning
your
data.
That
means
we
won't
be
able
to
share
it
right.
K
So
I
think
that
adds
a
protection
in
there
and
you
guys
will
be
able
to
choose
which
agencies
that
you
will
and
will
not
share
with,
so
that
if
there
is,
you
know,
you're
afraid
another
agency
might
not
have
the
same
protections
you
have.
You
could
protect
that
within
your
own
policy,
in
your
own
jurisdiction.
C
Just
to
clarify
on
that
piece
a
little
bit
further
and
and
duck
jump
in
if
you
have
a
better
way
of
wording
this
than
I,
because
I
suspect
you
might
so
as
a
as
a
matter
of
corporate
policy,
do
you
have
something
similar
to
like
apple's
sort
of
unwillingness
to,
like
you
know,
access
a
user's
data
when
it's
locked
behind
their
you
know
their
screen
or
that
you
know
their
passcode
on
their
phone
like
I
understand
that
we
have
a
right
to
share
it.
K
I
was
just
listening
to
brett
favrean's
habeas
data
last
week
and
going
through
that
apple
case
specifically
so,
and
josh
thomas,
is
on
the
line
too
he's
our
our
vp
of
local
government
affairs.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
him
to
jump
in
after
me
just
to
clarify
where
I'm,
where
I'm
mistaken,
robert,
but
so,
basically,
the
way
that
our
contract
terms
are
are
laid
out
is
that
we
will
never
sell
or
share
your
data
right.
So
we
we
ourselves
are
subject
to
the
local
laws
and
jurisdictions.
K
So
we
have
to
decide.
You
know
each
community
decides
how
they
want
to
operate
in
their
own
community,
and
we
are
really
adamant,
like
I
mentioned
about
following
by
the
community's
values
and
the
communities
process
in
which
which
they're
using
are
technology,
and
so
other
places
might
choose,
choose
to
use
it
for
different
reasons.
But
you
all
in
ithaca,
can
choose
how
it's
used
in
your
community.
L
L
So,
yes,
we
cannot
share
your
data
unless
you
have
authorized
us
to
do
so,
and
so
we
we
do
not
have
the
right
to
do
that.
Secondarily,
your
local,
you
are
a
sanctuary
city.
We
can
set
up
the
system
to
follow
all
of
your
local
ordinances
so
like
in
the
city
like
in
the
state
of
california.
L
It
is
illegal
for
them
to
work
with
immigration
in
any
capacity
across
the
whole
state,
and
we
have
literally
hundreds
of
customers
in
the
state
of
california,
and
we
have
our
system
set
up,
that
it
cannot
actually
alert
on
immigration
reasons.
They
can't
use
it
for
that
purpose.
So
on
that
reason,
yes,
the
second
part
of
your
question
on
private
access.
L
L
So
if
you
have
a
camera
in
your
business,
you
can
access
it
and
give
download
some
footage,
give
it
to
police
for
an
investigative
purpose
or
police.
If
you
allow
them
to,
you
can
allow
police
to
access
that
camera,
but
the
private
entity,
the
business,
can
never
access
any
other
camera
footage
from
anywhere
else.
It's
in
its
own
separate
silo.
C
Thank
you
for
that
lauren
and
josh
as
well
that
that
second
piece
I'll
as
a
layperson
analogize
it.
So
it's
it
sounds
like
in
the
private
public
cooperation.
It's
more
of
a
you
know,
kind
of
skipping,
a
step
and
sharing
someone's
like
security,
cam
footage
they're.
Just
the
same.
K
C
Thank
you
both
and
thank
you,
colleagues
for
indulging
me
george
and
then
jorge.
K
Robert,
I
do
I
I
saw
duck,
had
some
questions
in
the
chat
that
are
kind
of
along
this
line.
K
Yeah
definitely
so
the
data
is
physically
stored
in
your
own
section
of
our
aws
government
cloud
contract
right.
So
your
data
is
never
coming
old
with
anybody
else's.
It's
just
ithaca's
data
and
then
within
you
know,
each
private
individual
would
have
their
own
little
section
of
that
within
ithaca's
data,
if,
if
you
guys
have
neighborhoods
or
businesses
that
also
participate-
and
yes,
it
is
encrypted.
So
we
use
aes
256
encryption
and
I
can
send
you
duck.
K
We've
got
like
a
one
pager
on
it
to
share
some
more
details,
but
we
encrypt
at
three
different
parts
of
the
process.
So
we
encrypt
when
the
photo
is
taken
in
two
different
ways.
We
encrypt
when
the
photo
is
sent
to
the
server
in
two
different
ways,
and
then
we
encrypt
when
it's
stored
in
two
different
ways.
K
So
those
additional
levels
of
protection
we
think
help
help
make
it
less
likely
that
there
would
be
an
attack
in
terms
of
the
city
being
the
only
entity
to
decrypt
the
data
you
own,
the
data.
So
I
I
believe
that
would
be
the
case.
I
need
to
follow
up
on
the
contract
terms
and
might
have
josh
jump
in
here
to
clarify,
but
we
don't
see
the
need
to
do
that.
K
D
Basically,
to
use
the
apple
example
like
when
you
like
you,
send
an
imessage
apple
literally,
cannot
decrypt
that
that
message,
only
the
the
sender
and
the
receiver
can,
and
so
I'm
curious,
if
that's
the
case,
and
also
if
you
use
aws
gulf
cloud,
I'm
pretty
familiar
with
that.
In
fact,
I
had
to
go
through
the
process
to
get
access
recently
and
sort
of
like
a
security
clearance
thing.
So
that's
good.
K
Yeah
yeah,
all
our
folks
have
that
same
level
of
clearance.
Can
I
follow
up
with
you
on
the
the
keys
to
decryption?
I'm
not
sure.
I
know
that
specific
example.
I
I
know
that,
like
I
said
earlier
right,
we
we
can't
access
it
without
your
permission,
so
I
would
imagine
so
but
we'll
follow
up
if
josh,
if
you
don't
want
to
jump
in
here.
G
No
no
worries
two
quick
questions:
one
are
there
any
monthly
or
annual
maintenance
fees
and
two
theoretically,
if
ipd
had
detailed
information,
could
these
cameras
spot
a
stolen
bicycle.
K
Okay,
so
first
question:
it's
2500
per
camera
per
year:
it's
a
350
dollar
install
fee
because
we
have
to
pay
some
technicians,
but
all
of
those
that
fee
schedule
will
be
outlined
in
the
contract
that
we'll
send
you
guys
over
to
review,
but
in
general
it's
just
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
per
year
with
that
additional
cost.
The
first
year
on
the.
K
G
K
On
the
bicycle
question
george,
yes,
our
devices
are
motion
activated
and
so
anytime
a
something
passes
in
front
of
the
camera.
It
would
take
a
picture
of
that
vehicle.
I
think
something
important
to
search
to
note
is
that
our
search
features
you
can't
search
on
anything
other
than
a
vehicle
that
can't
that
does
include
bicycles.
It
can
include
motorcycles,
but
you
cannot
search
on
people
so,
though
the
picture
might
be
taken,
it's
it's
not
something
that
can
actually
be
accessed
by
your
department.
G
L
So,
george,
just
to
clarify
on
that
our
system,
you
can
filter
the
search
results
kind
of
like
if
you
are
in
amazon
and
you're
searching
for
a
product
to
purchase
and
you
can
filter
on
color
and
type
and
all
these
different
things
you
won't
be
able
to
filter
the
details
of
a
bicycle.
Our
system
is
not
set
up
to
do
that.
It's
for
vehicles.
G
L
Yes,
so
you
could,
you
could
identify
if
it
was
a
bicycle
but
george
to
your
specific
question
of
if
you
were
a
very
detailed
description
of
what
the
type
of
bike
was
or
the
color
of
the
bike,
our
system
would
not
filter
on
the
details
of
the
bicycle.
It
would
filter
on
details
of
a
vehicle,
but
not
on
a
bicycle.
So
you
can.
J
J
C
Thank
you
thanks
that
question
george
jorge
and
then
jeff.
B
Thank
you
for
this
presentation
very
informative,
very
helpful,
and
I
found
myself
getting
more
comfortable,
as
things
went
on
with
that,
so
really
props
to
you
guys.
On
that
a
question
I
have,
I
have
a
couple
questions.
First,
one
is
this
might
be.
This
might
have
been
described.
I
might
have
missed
it.
How
how
clever
or
proven
is
the
technology
and
like
distinguishing
a
gunshot
from
like,
let's
say
the
the
noise?
I
forget
the
noise,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
proving
I
don't
have
a
license
here.
Noise,
a
car
might
make.
M
K
Yeah,
so
our
gunshot
detection
is
very
accurate.
I
believe
the
last
one
that
I
saw
josh
with
95
was
that.
K
Excuse
me
97,
so
that's
the
first
piece
right,
it's
very
accurate,
but
the
second
piece
is
that,
like
I
said,
we
don't
think
that
gunshot
detection
is
the
only
thing
that
is
required
for
an
investigative
lead.
That's
why
we
have
those
license
plate
reader
cameras
in
the
area
that
automatically
pair
with
the
gunshot
detection
to
provide
real
data
that
can
be
used
to
determine
a
response.
It's
not
just
about
whether
or
not
there
was
a
shot
fired.
K
It's
all
the
other,
contextual
details
that
you
need
and
the
officers
will
need
to
respond.
L
And
there's
a
more
precise
way,
we
can
answer
that
question
and
we
have
we'd
happen
to
send
you
over
some
more
information
about
that,
because
there's
two
different
ways
to
measure
it.
L
One
is
on
what
we
call
precision
and
one
is
on
recall
and
so
there's
like
identifying
whether
or
not
it
picked
up
the
sound
of
like
the
loud
bang
and
then
it's
identifying
whether
or
not
that
loud
bang
was
actually
a
gunshot
or
not,
and
our
system
has
performed
at
the
97
accuracy
rating
on
both
of
those
measures
and
that's
an
important
distinction,
because
you
don't
want
to
miss
fires
that
happen
in
the
in
the
real
world
if
you're
utilizing
this,
but
you
also
want
to
be
careful
to
your
point
of.
Are
you?
L
Is
it
a
firework
or
is
it
a
gunshot?
And
so
in
field
testing
this
device?
We
actually
had
officers
fire
blank
rounds
and
real
rounds
next
to
the
device
and
it
did
not
set
off
for
the
blanks
it
was
only
setting
off
for
the
real
gunfire.
So
that
gave
us
additional
confidence.
As
we
were
deploying
this
in
cities
around
the
country.
B
B
If
I
don't
know,
if
maybe
steve
or
someone
else
here
might
be
able
to
answer
this
potentially
in
terms
of
140
000
a
year
annually,
if
that's
something
that
we
maybe
have
nested
for
or
potentially
you
know
prepare
for,
or
is
that
going
to
require
more
further
allocation
of
funding,
for
you
know
for
policing
in
this
regard
or
for
ipd,
or
is
it
something
that
we've
anticipated
or
or
how
or
if
there's
sort
of,
if
we
are
capable
of
under
seeing
any
potential
grants
that
we
could
look
to
potentially
funding
this
or
if
there's
anything
in
that
regard,
I
don't
know
if
anyone
has
any
information
on
that
front.
F
Yeah
I
mean
I
would,
I
would
tell
you
it
would
just
have
to
be
additional
allocation
to
the
operations
of
the
police
department.
So,
and
I
don't
know
about
you-
know,
grant
sources
or
other
funding
sources.
We
could
look
at
that,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
in
this
case
there
would
be
but
yeah
it
would
just
be
another
allocation.
C
C
B
Then
I
guess
my
last
question
and
then
I'll
wrap
up
here
is
in
terms
of
deciding
the
policy
as
as
the
policy
is
being
draft
for
how
the
cameras
will
be
used.
You
said:
did
you
mention
that
it's
the
division
of
the
police
that's
drafting
this,
or
is
this
going
to
be
something
that
the
city
drafts?
I'm
sorry?
I
might
need
some
little
clarification
over
there.
K
Yeah
so
I'll
I'll
ask
mary
to
jump
in
here.
Typically,
what
we've
seen
in
other
departments
is
that
in
places
all
over
right,
like,
I
think,
I'm
thinking
specifically
of
vallejo
california,
because
they've
had
a
really
great
community
input
process
for
developing
their
policy.
K
The
police
division
will
start
with
the
policy
they'll
draft
it
and
take
in
feedback
from
you
know,
elected
officials
from
city
officials
and
then
in
other
places,
they've
presented
that
policy
to
community
groups
and
asked
them
to
weigh
in
on
what
they
want
to
see
what
you
know,
additions
or
subtractions.
They
might
have,
and
then
they've
made
those
changes
and
then
implemented
the
policy.
I'm
not
sure
exactly
faith
and
mary.
K
How
exactly
your
policy
process
works
in
ithaca,
but
we
do
know
that
that
has
been
really
effective
in
other
places
and
we're
happy
to
share
those
drafts
with
you
guys,
as
you
all
are
developing
your
own
right.
J
M
Yeah
thanks
rob
and
thanks,
laura
and
and
josh
for
a
good
presentation
here.
M
My
question,
I
think
is,
is
really
actually
for
mary.
I
think
it
might
be
useful
to
see
a
cost
comparison.
I
was
curious
if
we
had
any
data
for
under
our
current
system
to
from
what
it
costs
the
city
to
solve
a
crime
based
on
the
way
that
we
approach
things
now
and
a
crime
of
this
nature.
This
technology
would
hopefully
make
us
more
efficient
at
solving.
M
You
know
when
you're
factoring
things
like
overtime
and
chasing
cars
out
of
town
and
gas
prices,
and
all
these
things
you
know
if
we're
working
in
a
much
broader
fashion,
with
efficient
and
precise
technology,
can
we
realize
real,
significant
savings
here?
I
think
you
know
just
trying
to
compile
that
data
would
be
really
really
interesting
and
and
help
us
make
the
case
to
our
constituencies
that
you
know
this
is
a
a
benefit.
J
Yeah,
I
don't
have
any
data
on
it,
but
I
can
almost
guarantee
you.
That
would
be
the
case
just
from
my
experience,
collecting
video
footage
and
canvassing
and
basically
what
a
canvas
is
for.
Those
who
don't
know
is
you're
conducting
interviews
with
anyone
who's
in
the
area,
trying
to
get
descriptions
of
what
they
may
have
seen
and
the
flock
camera
might
just
provide
us
those
descriptions
instantly.
J
So
it
could
really
reduce
the
amount
of
overtime
hours
and
a
lot
of
people
needed
for
an
investigation,
and
when
I
think
of
day-to-day
operations,
I
know
walmart
was
mentioned,
and
I
presented
the
dashboard
recently
and
one
of
our
most
frequent
places
that
we
go
to
is
walmart
for
a
pettit.
Larceny
and
they'll
often
provide
us
with
a
picture
of
power.
J
That
is
has
a
suspect
in
it.
That
may
have
committed
petty
or
grand
larceny
or
some
other
alleged
crime,
and
we
can't
really
do
too
much
with
just
a
vehicle
and
then
we'll
put
out
a
vehicle
description.
J
But
if
we
had
the
flock
cameras,
we'd
be
able
to
narrow
down
the
plate
and
just
another
point
when
we
put
out
a
vehicle
description,
especially
if
it's
for
a
more
violent
time,
critical
crime,
whether
it
be
a
shooting
or
a
kidnapping,
and
we
have
a
vehicle
description,
we
may
have
to
conduct
a
stop
on
an
uninvolved
vehicle.
Just
based
on
that
description.
So
having
that
plate
could
also
eliminate
having
unnecessary
police
contact
for
someone
who
may
be
driving
the
same
vehicle
as
a
suspect.
M
Yeah
I
mean
I
just
would
be
if
there's
any
way
to
you
know,
put
a
price
tag
in
solving
a
crime.
I
think
that
that
would
be
just
really
useful
information.
So
just
have
that
in
mind,
I
think,
is
the
nature
of
my
inquiry
there,
but
thanks
mary,
that
that's
I,
it
was
what
I
expected
as
well,
that
it's
it's
it
could
be
a
huge
benefit,
just
good
to
know
than
how
how
good
a
benefit.
C
Thanks
jeff
duckson,
I
have
you
next
and
then
I
see
george.
D
Thank
you
yeah
this.
This
comes
kind
of
a
good
point
for
me
in
my
own
education,
about
this
type
of
stuff.
In
that
I
was
always
a
you
know,
a
negative
opinion
of
traffic
enforcement
cameras,
but
but
those
are
reading
lately
about
how
they
do
in
fact
reduce
discrimination
and
reduce
those
police,
public
interactions
and
so
kind
of
have
a
controversial
take.
D
So
you
mentioned
very
specifically,
is
not
used
for
traffic
enforcement,
but
we
kind
of
semi-famously
no
longer
have
a
traffic
enforcement
unit
and-
and
it's
part
of
it's
one
component
of
a
pedestrian,
cycling,
safety
mechanism
in
the
city
and
I'm
curious.
If,
if
you
have
anything
along
detecting
speeding
and
stuff
like
that,.
K
Yeah,
no,
we
we
don't
do
that.
There
are
other
vendors
that
that
do
that
that
we
can
partner
with,
but
that's
not
something
that
we've
included
in
our
business,
we're
targeted
on
responding
to
helping
make
communities
safer
and
eliminating
crime.
So
we
don't
believe
that
traffic
enforcement
is
is
connected
to
that.
D
And
a
more
operational
thing,
so
what
what
type
of
mounting
points
do
the
cameras
go
on.
K
Yeah,
so
it
depends
on
the
location
right,
so
in
most
locations,
we've
got
a
standard
pole
that
could
pull
up
a
picture
of
it
or
send
it
afterwards,
but
it
has
a
solar
panel
on
top
it's
12
foot,
just
like
basic
black
pole
that
the
device
is
mounted
on
in
some
locations.
We
will
mount
them
on
street
poles
or
on
existing
poles
and
structures.
K
It
just
depends
on
the
permitting
process
depends
on
who
owns
the
that
pole
and
whether
or
not
there
are
any
locations
that
want
to
be
connected
to
electricity.
You
don't
have
to
be
because
of
our
solar
powered
system,
but
in
some
instances
folks
want
to
be
if
they
are
the
ones
who
own
and
operate
that,
so
it
just
depends
on
the
location
and
we'll
figure
out
all
of
the
details
of
that.
If
we
move
forward
with
the
mapping
process
and
and
the
permitting
process
for
each
location.
D
Thank
you
and
then
last
point,
and-
and
some
of
my
colleagues
are
talking
about
this
in
the
chat.
But
you
know
your
slide
talked
about
various
stakeholders,
but
I
think
the
most
important
one
is
is
the
actual
residence
of
the
city
throughout
the
entire
city,
and
so
we
will
definitely
be
including
them.
In
that
conversation,.
K
Yeah
great,
so
I
saw
these
specific
neighborhoods.
Do
you
think
it
would
be
valuable
to
have
a
community
education
session
in
each
neighborhood,
or
would
it
be
valuable
to
have
one
open
to
the
citizens
that
they
could
come
to
what
what
would
work
best
in
ithaca.
B
I
I
could
see
an
argument
for
both
of
them
for
awards
and
and
or
neighborhoods,
but
yeah.
I
think
it
should.
I
don't
I'm.
Definitely
I
don't
think
a
general
citywide
one
was
the
way
to
go.
We
should
be
a
lot
more
targeted.
M
I
was
also
going
to
say
awards
and
new
roots.
K
Great
yeah
could
we
can
follow
up
with
you
guys
on
how
how
you
want
to
structure
that
and
over
email
work
with
faith
on
that.
C
G
K
So,
yes,
it's
2500
per
camera.
I
could
do
some
quick
math
to
see
how
much
25
would
be,
but
it
would
bring
down
the
the
cost
by
at
least
25
000.
K
I'm
sorry,
I'm
gonna
have
to
do
some
math,
I'm
a
little.
My
brain
is
is
not
numbers.
Thank
you.
Josh
is
the
mathematician
of
our
teams.
What.
J
So
I
think
one
thing
we
didn't
touch
on
yet
is
within
the
budget
was
four
mobile
cameras,
so
the
majority
of
the
cameras
would
be
stationary,
but
if
we
identify
that
there's
a
crime
trend
going
on
in
a
certain
area,
so
an
example
being
when
college
students
go
away
for
christmas,
we
tend
to
have
a
high
numbers.
A
high
number
of
burglaries
in
that
area,
so
we'd
be
able
to
move
a
mobile
camera
up
there
to
help
solve
those
crimes
and
and
prevent
those
crimes.
J
K
Yeah,
could
the
current
map
and
contract
does
not
include
those,
but
if
that's
something
that
you
guys
decide
you
want
to
explore
later
on,
instead
of
stationary
cameras
or
in
addition,
we
can
of
course
have
those
conversations.
C
M
I
just
was
going
to
tack
on
to
the
conversation
about
you
know
who
to
reach
out
to
here
for
education,
educating
the
public.
It
might
be
worthwhile
to
make
an
effort
to
engage
with
the
ithaca
city
school
district,
so
that
and
the
pta
networks
at
schools.
M
C
Thanks
would
help
if
I
muted
myself
right,
george
ducks
in
and
then
faith.
D
Oh
real,
quick
earlier
in
george's
bicycle
example:
if
a
camera
does
pick
up
an
image
that
would
contain
a
face,
is
there
auto,
blurring
or
anything
or
or
is
the
person's
face?
Unobscured.
K
No,
there
is
not,
but
but
the
system
can't
search
off
of
faces
or
anything,
so
the
image
is
just
the
protected
image
that
exists,
but
there's
no
blurring
of
individuals.
This
time,
okay,.
I
Thanks,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
all
council
knows
that
you'll
be
getting
a
packet
with
the
answers
to
some
of
your
questions
and
the
cost
and
george
can
figure
out
himself
how
many
cameras
15
will
be
or
whatever,
and
we
will
make
sure
that
that's
all
sent
to
you
along
with
a
survey
and
on
that
survey
we
are
going
to
ask
you.
I
say
we
I
apologize.
I
You
know
the
flock
in
ipd
will
ask
you,
you
know
what
neighborhoods
you
think,
what
you
know,
what
groups
of
people
you
should
hit.
So
I
mean
that's
that
is
going
to
be
in
the
survey,
so
you
guys
can
think
about
that
and
then
put
that
in
the
survey
and
we'll
collect
that
data
and
give
it
to
chief
julie
to
be
able
to.
You
know,
create
some
kind
of
plan
with
flock
for
community.
K
So
the
devices
are
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
and
the
raven
is
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
for
a
square
mile.
K
Yes,
it
is.
We
think
that
the
gunshot
detection
is
a
great
enhancement
of
your
license,
plate
readers,
okay,
but
yes,
it
is.
C
All
right
well
seeing
no
additional
questions.
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
the
presentation
and
for
this
back
and
forth.
Obviously
there's
a
couple
of
items
we'll
be
following
up
on,
and
I
definitely
want
to
figure
out
with
faith
how
we
might
most
efficiently
set
up
these
these
community
meetings,
because
I
agree-
that's
really
important
on
getting
overall
buy-in
comfort
with
this
all
right.
So
thank
you.
C
Other
than
me
wishing
a
very
happy
independence
day
to
ukraine,
which
is
still
a
free
and
independent
country,
any
announcements.