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A
Good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
September
13th
special
meeting
of
common
Council,
this
is
a
meeting
where
we
have
a
few
agenda
items.
Importantly,
we
will
have
a
presentation
momentarily
from
Mona
Lita
Smiley,
the
director
of
the
community
Justice
Center,
presenting
the
work
plan
and
Council
knows
that
there
is
intended
to
be
a
an
annual
work
plan
presented.
So
I'm
really
pleased
that
Mona
will
be
here
this
evening
and
we
will
then
have
capital
projects
review.
A
This
is
information
for
Council
as
we
move
into
budget
season
and
then
an
overview
of
cities
outside
agency
funding.
I
will
just
add
that,
because
this
is
a
special
meeting
of
common
Council,
there
is
no
public
comment
all
right,
so
we
will
move
right
into
Mona's
presentation
as
I
turn
it
over
to
Mona.
As
I
mentioned,
common
Council
has
asked
that
there
be
a
work
plan
presented
by
the
CJC
annually
and
again
a
reminder
that
Council
voted
previously
to
jointly
fund
with
the
the
county.
A
The
Community
Justice
Center,
so
I
believe
Mona
is
here
and
I
will
now
thank
her
for
being
here
and
turn
it
over
to
Mona.
B
Good
thanks
for
having
me
I'll
go
ahead
and
just
get
started.
I
think
you
all
received
the
same
document
that
I'm
going
to
be
referring
to
in
your
packets
for
the
meeting
tonight.
So
this
is
the
2024
work
plan
for
the
CJC,
the
collaborative
between
the
city
and
the
county.
So
we
have
a
number
of
recommendations
or
excuse
me,
plans
that
are
listed
on
here
and
we're
just
talking
about
this
picks
out
from
where
we
left
off
in
2023..
B
I
can
share
my
screen
if
need
be,
but
I
think
everybody.
If
you
have
that
document
in
front
of
you,
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
do
it
from
here
at
my
desk.
So
the
first
one
is
the
comprehensive
Community
healing
plan.
Sorry.
C
Not
all
of
us
have
okay
printed
out
copy,
so
if
you
wouldn't
mind
yours,
thank
you.
You.
B
You're
welcome,
okay,
okay,
let
me
know
when
everyone
can
see
it.
B
Okay,
you're
welcome.
So
as
I
was
saying,
the
first
one
is
the
community
healing
plan,
and
this
you
know
picks
up
or
continues
from
where
we're
at
at
the
end
of
this
year.
So
it's
clearly
listed
what
the
County's
budget
will
be
and
what
the
city
will
be
and
I
guess.
I
should
preference
this
by
saying
that
this
work,
plan
and
budget
will
also
be
presented
in
the
county
budget,
2
Council
by
Lisa
Holmes
on
the
19th
of
this
month.
B
So
we
had
some
trainers,
community
and
law
enforcement
participants
that
participated
in
the
training
with
Dr
Acosta,
so
they
have
will
be
holding
more
sessions,
and
it
just
gives
you
a
deliverable
of
a
number
of
sessions,
a
number
of
facilitators
per
session
and
what
those
sessions
will
look
like.
So
it's
one
thing:
a
continuation
of
what
we're
working
on
for
the
remainder
of
this
year.
Something
new
that
we
are
going
to
Institute
for
next
year
is
ongoing
youth
engagement
with
Community
healing
and
the
community
Justice
Center.
B
So
that's
listed.
That's
the
next
item
on
the
actual,
a
plan,
and
so
what
we're
planning
on
is
connecting
with
some
of
the
different
youth
groups.
I
know
there's
one
through
the
high
school
and
we're
also
going
to
continue
with
BGA,
which
is
the
black
girl
Alchemist
through
South
Side,
we're
working
out
with
them
right
now
on
a
mural
that
is
going
to
be
put
up
in
baby
Bank
alley
on
the
common.
B
So
we'll
continue
working
on
engagement
activities
with
some
youth
groups
through
the
city
of
Ithaca
and
Tompkins
Town
game.
B
We
did
set
aside
a
little
bit
of
money
for
additional
resources
and
support
that
would
help
with
some
of
our
engagement
activities,
whether
it's
materials
or
space,
rental
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
that's
the
last
part
of
the
community
healing
budget
that
we're
looking
at
right
here
on
the
bottom
of
the
first
record
or
the
first
plan
and
talks
about
it,
gives
you
a
little
Narrative
of
what
we're
looking
at
so
six
sessions.
B
Two
facilitators
per
session
four
hours,
total
with
three
community
members,
like
I,
said
in
one
law
enforcement
officer
that
went
through
the
training,
and
you
know
our
indicators
are
that
we're
going
to
be
building
those
trusted
relationships
are
going
to
continue
to
work
on
them
until
they're.
You
know
until
they're,
established
and
it'll
be
an
ongoing
process
gives
a
little
brief
summary
of
what
happened
in
2023,
with
a
community
healing
session
that
we
held
at
Cinepolis.
B
B
Okay,
so
alternative
response
and
wraparound
services
are
next,
and
this
deals
with
we
talk
about
our
community
resource
hubs,
so
we
have
two
of
them
right
now
that
are
up
and
running
and
for
2024
we're
looking
at
starting
another
one,
this
time
we're
hoping
in
like
the
West
End
of
the
city.
So
we
want
to.
B
We
want
to
be
good
partners
for
one,
and
since
we
have
two
in
the
two
rural
areas
we
have
Enfield
and
Groton.
We
also
still
want
to
be
able
to
provide
those
services
to
the
city
of
Ithaca
residents
that
may
not
be
able
to
make
it
into
the
center
of
town
to
get
some
of
that
some
of
those
services
the
care
team
is
on
here.
B
Even
though
there's
no
budget
requirement,
it's
a
Tompkins
County
right
now
in
the
city,
we
still
will
be
doing
the
analysis
of
it,
which
is
fine,
there's
no
budgeting
requirements
of
that
part,
and
then
we
did
ask
for
a
little
bit
of
money
from
each
ten
thousand
from
the
city
and
the
county
to
work
on
a
training
series
for
outreach
workers
and
so
we're
looking
to
a
host.
B
The
CJC
would
be
the
host
to
oversee
some
of
those
trainings
and
then
we
scrolled
down
and
talked
about
the
three
hubs
and
then
developing
training
programs
to
contract
with
providers.
B
That
would
you
know,
do
some
training
at
mental
health
for
some
of
our
collaborative
Partners.
So
that's
where
that
20
000
is
that's
10
per
entity.
B
Officer
Wellness,
we
have,
we
are
in
the
process
of
doing
some
plan
implementation
around
that,
so
we
are
still
partnering
so
for
next
year
for
2020
we're
looking
at
implementing
an
on-call
counselor
for
officers.
So
that's
where
you
know
the
two
15
000
comes
from
for
the
city
and
then
also
2000,
to
help
with
some
nutritional
Council
identified
by
law
enforcement
and
our
working
group,
and
then
we're
also
going
to
be
doing
some
I
called
advertising.
B
But
it's
really
inviting
people
in
to
come
in
and
speak
with
us
twice
a
year,
also
some
materials
and
take
away
items
that
will
support
destigmatizing
language.
It's
okay
to
not
to
be
okay.
It's
kind
of
a
concept
we're
looking
at
when
we
were
thinking
of
this,
so
we'll
be
campaigning
for
an
on-call
counselor
and
then
hopefully
bringing
in
some
deaf
speakers
to
provide
some
Community
awareness
and
some
services
offer.
B
And
then
we
are
looking
to
support
implementation
of
a
peer
support
model
and
that
would
be
with
Whole
Health
and
the
Department
of
Emergency
Response
amethism
Team.
That
is
getting
restarted.
So
we're
set
aside
some
money
to
hopefully
bring
those
Services
right
into
the
city
of
Ithaca,
and
so
we
look
at
a
breakdown
of
it.
Excuse
me
it
talks
about.
B
You
know
we
want
to
adhere
to
the
recommendations
for
physical
wellness,
and
that
includes
mindful
Wellness,
also
and
just
overall
Nutritional
Health
contract
with
a
local
provider
that
came
up
in
a
lot
of
our
discussions
with
our
working
groups
of
trying
to
keep
this
as
local
as
possible
and
not
bringing
in
outside
sources.
You
really
utilizing
what
we
have.
This
county
is
very
rich
in
services
and
knowledge.
B
So
if
we
can
keep
it
in-house
or
I
call
it
a
house
it'll
be
even
better
and
it'll
be
just
pretty
much
an
enhancement
to
some
of
the
EAP
programs
program
programming,
that's
already
offered
it
talks
about
the
speakers
twice
a
year
and
then
any
information
and
support
that
we
can
provide
for
the
citizen
team.
B
Next,
we
have
the
inclusive,
Innovative,
Recruitment
and
Retention
strategy.
This
year
we
are
working
with
a
consulting
firm
with
kickoff
meeting
next
two
weeks
to
develop
a
strategic
plan
for
us
to
help
us
with
the
Recruitment
and
Retention,
and
so
next
year
we're
going
to
implement
that
strategy
that
they
come
up
with.
So
that's
where
the
funding
for
this
comes
into
place,
whatever
we
should
know
by
the
end,
we'll
have
their
plan
by
the
end
of
December.
B
B
B
B
We
have
decided
that
there
is
enough
expertise
within
our
working
group
that
we
don't
need
to
spend
extra
money
on
hiring
a
consultant,
so
that's
being
done
amongst
us,
and
so
you
can
see
some
of
the
stakeholders
for
the
county.
We
have
someone
from
HR
which
is
Ruby
polium,
and
then
we
have
Ted
Schwartz
from
ipd.
We
have
her
name
is
escaping
me:
Shirley
King.
She
joined
our
culturally
responsive
working
group
for
training
from
police
board
myself.
B
We
have
someone
from
Cali
Administration
and
then
someone
from
Communications
that
is
with
us
and
the
sheriff's
department
has
been
invited
to
join
so
2024.
We
need
the
money
to
implement
the
curriculum
that
we
come
up
with
this
year.
B
And
I
think
we're
almost
done
here.
We
have
not.
We've
tabled
the
officer
initiative
traffic
stop
enforcement.
We
are
looking
at
just
piloting
some
data
collection
I'm.
Examining
that
information
and
plan
for
ongoing
implementation.
B
Standardized
data
entries
on
here,
but
there
is
no
Financial-
ask
for
that
at
this
point
because
we're
it's
we'll
just
be
looking
to
identify
what
the
current
data
challenges
are.
Data
entry
challenges
are,
and
then
we'll
pilot
a
collection
program
so
that
we
can
look
at
all
across
all
departments
and
see
what
data
they
have
and
we'll
go
from
there
and
I
think
that
the
last
one
is
to
develop
a
dynamic
policing
and
crisis
response
data
dashboard.
There
is
a
cost
Associated
that
with
that,
so
we
have
the
working
group.
B
We
are
identifying
data
points,
we're
looking
to
see
what
everyone
is
collecting.
So
we've
looked
at
ipd's
dashboard,
there's
a
couple
different
dashboards
that
are
trying
to
roll
out
throughout
the
county,
so
we'll
be
looking
at
those.
The
CJC
has
identified
some
data
points
and
then
we're
also
asking
the
community
to
identify
what
what
information
do
you
guys
want
to
know
what,
if
you're
looking
to
find
out,
you
know
how
the
time
is
spent
who's.
B
Being
you
know
what
the
calls
are
where
they're
responding
things
of
that
nature,
so
that
has
gone
out
and
we're
waiting
to
collect
information
from
our
community
on
things
that
they
would
want
to
see.
So
for
next
year
we
would
publish
that
dashboard,
which
would
have
information
on
policing
the
crisis
response
it'll
be
both
for
the
city
and
the
county.
B
We
do
realize
that
ipd
has
a
dashboard
right
now,
but
there
are
certain
things
that
may
not
be
included
in
their
dashboard
that
we
would
definitely
include
in
the
CJ
season,
it'll
be
based
on
what
the
community
wants
to
see.
It's
instead
of
the
community
dashboard.
B
Last
but
not
least,
is
the
review
of
the
SRT,
which
is
a
specialized
Response,
Team
call
outs.
There
is
no
Financial
ask
of
that.
We'll
establish
a
working
group
to
review
the
information
and
draft
a
report
for
future
action.
B
And
that's
what
I
have
for
you
this
evening.
So
it's
a
lot
of
information
and
a
little
bit
of
time,
but
I'm
open
for
quite
I'm
going
to
stop
sharing
my
screen.
That
way,
I
can
at
least
see
you
all
and
then
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
Mona
I,
see
Robert's
hand
up.
C
Thanks
Mona
for
the
presentation,
I
have
a
couple
questions,
but
I'll
just
start
with
one
and
let
my
colleagues
weigh
in
as
well
I'm
very
glad
to
see
the
inclusion
in
this
work
plan
of
key
performance
indicators.
I
was
wondering
if
I
could
invite
you
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
what
the
planned
reporting
schedule
on
those
key
performance
indicators
might
be.
C
Are
we
are
we
looking
to
see
updates
on
a
quarterly
a
you
know,
semi-annual
basis
and
I
guess?
Actually.
I
will
throw
a
second
question
in
here,
because
it's
very
intimately
tied
when
when
will
we
get
a
sense
of
what
the
benchmarks
for
those
indicators
are
and
what
the
targets
for
fiscal
year
24
will
be.
B
Okay,
to
start
with,
the
planned
reporting
schedule,
I
planned
on
reporting,
orderly
to
Common,
Council
and
County
ledge,
to
share
where
we're
at
where
we're
supposed
to
be
at.
Are
we
meeting
that
that
Mark?
So
when
will
you
get
a
sense
of
benchmarks
in
the
Target
I
would
imagine-
and
this
is
just
me-
that
you'll
get
a
sense
of
the
benchmarks
during
that
quarterly
reporting
and
I
would
think
at
the
beginning
of
the
year.
We'll
start
we'll
talk
about
Target
ranges.
So
what
happened
when
we
first
presented
the
work
plan?
B
Initially
the
2022
work
plan,
we
had
a
Target
graph
of
where
our
Milestones
were
at
each
week
or
excuse
me
each
month
of
the
recommendation,
and
so
I
would
like
to
do
the
same
thing.
So
that's
something
that
we
can.
We
can
develop
and
I
can
and
share
back
out
with
Council.
B
E
Thanks
for
the
presentation,
I
have
I
have
two
questions.
E
The
first
has
to
do
with
the
recruitment
strategy
and
the
retention
I
wrote
down
retention,
but
I
think
my
notes
might
be
incorrect,
so
we're
looking.
Yes,
it's
the
initiate
retention
initiative
so
between
these
two
we're
looking
at
a
50
000
contribution
for
the
city.
E
B
I
think
it's
a
strategy,
that's
going
to
guide
us
and
then
possibly
have
a
repeating
charge,
be
just
a
portion
of
it.
Like
I,
said
we're
kicking
off
with
our
Consultants
in
the
next
two
weeks,
and
so
we
are
going
to
help
them
and
they're
going
to
help
us
create
a
strategic
plan
once
that
plan
is
created,
we'll
have
a
better
idea
and
a
clearer
vision
on
exactly
what
the
cost
is
going
to
be.
B
So
we
we
kind
of
estimated
when
I,
when
you
look
at
these
numbers,
but
we're
imagining
that
it's
going
to
be
something
pretty
close,
just
based
off
of
interviewing
with
the
different
Consultants,
the
re.
You
know
the
work
and
research
that
they've
done
on
a
community
of
our
size,
a
task
and
obstacles
that
have
been
presented
previously
with
recruiting
for
law
enforcement
in
this
area.
So
that's
where
that
number
came
from.
E
Okay,
thank
you.
My
second
question
are
to
if
you
could
explain
a
little
bit
about
the
differences
between
the
training
for
outreach
workers
as
well
as
then,
the
training
for
culturally
responsive
training
in
the
description
they
seem
very
similar.
So
could
you
highlight
the
differentiation
between
the
two.
B
B
B
E
I
was
looking
at
the
the
training
series
in
terms
of
culturally
responsive
practices
and
then
there's
a
culturally
responsive
training
program,
new
curriculum
later
on
on
page
12
for
twenty
thousand
dollars,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
I
see
that
one
includes
a
larger
audience
than
just
law
enforcement.
E
E
B
Okay,
so
page
four
is
the
alternative
response
and
that
is
based
on
the
training,
for
that
is
a
series
to
reach
out
to
our
First
Responders
and
our
Law
Enforcement
Officers
bi-monthly
that'll
be
held
throughout
the
year
and
that's
going
to
be
we're
going
to
work
so
that
we're
equipping,
obviously
I'm
just
reading
it
straight
from
here.
B
I
think,
there's
a
better
explanation
here:
they're
going
to
work
to
equip
all
responders
with
effective
tools
and
materials,
so
we're
looking
at
an
alternative
response,
so
it
might
be
a
licensed
clinician
licensed
therapist
or
a
mental
health
clinician
or
someone
from
the
Department
of
Emergency
Response,
not
necessarily
law
enforcement
and
officer
in
uniform.
B
So
we're
looking
to
train
to
provide
that
training
for
all
of
them,
whereas
the
culturally
responsive
is
it's
a
little
different
it,
the
training
will
be
different.
It
will
be
getting
to
know
your
environment.
We
just
went
through
this
this
afternoon,
so
I'm
glad
we're
having
this
discussion.
Now
it's
going
to
be
taking
law
enforcement
enforcement
and
that
maybe
not
necessarily
First
Responders,
but
law
enforcement.
We're
going
to
put
them
out
into
we're
going
to
and
go
into
the
community
and
we're
going
to
work.
It's
not
a
classroom
teaching.
B
You
can't
teach
cultural
responsiveness,
it's
something
that
you
kind
of
have
to
learn
in
the
moment
we
so
when
we
were
talking
about
it
this
afternoon
and
we're
trying
to
identify
we're
trying
to
look
outside
of
the
box.
How
do
we
get
our
law
enforcement
officers
knowledgeable
about
our
community,
the
different
pockets
of
our
community,
that
we
have
because
not
every
Community,
not
every
pocket,
is
going
to
be
the
same.
B
For
instance,
there
was
a
story
shared
this
afternoon
about
a
law
enforcement
officer
that
went
into
meet
with
the
organization,
and
it
was
a
church.
It
was
a
faith-based
organization
and
they
went
to
shake
their
hand
they're
like
we
don't
do
that
here.
He
had
no
idea
that
that's
not
something
that
they
do,
but
had
we
been
able
to
have
them
spend
time
with
this
organization.
B
It's
going
to
be
for
the
same,
you
know
might
be
the
same
set
of
people,
but
because
it's
not
a
classroom,
you
know
you
go
through
this
training
and
you
check
it
off
that
you've
done
it.
It's
going
to
entail
a
little
bit
more
detail,
so
I
think.
That
is
why
that's
the
difference
between
the
two.
B
I
would
not
necessarily
say
it's
to
pay
for
overtime
to
one.
That's
going.
One
of
the
budgets
is
going
to
increase
their
training
budget
for
the
hopefully
responsive,
it's
going
to
increase
ipds
and
the
Sheriff's
Department
training
budget,
which
will,
however,
they
take
care
of
their
staff
during
that
time
would
be
under
their
guidance.
A
F
Thank
you
for
joining
us.
Moana
I'm
really
excited
about
that
type
of
training.
I!
That's
what
we're
looking
for
my
question.
I
have
two
questions,
one.
F
If
we
in
2024
have
hired
some
of
the
unarmed
responders
that
we've
been
talking
about
and
reimagining,
would
they
be
involved
in
this
training
as
well?
Yes,
good
and,
and
secondly,
I'm
not
sure
what
a
hub
is.
B
Oh
okay,
so
the
community
Hub
is
it's
a
space
that
has
been
designated
for
the
community
Justice
Center,
so
in
the
Enfield
for
the
Enfield
Community
Center
I
went
out,
I
met
with
them
and
we
have
we're
bringing
resources
to
them.
That
may
not
be
available
downtown.
So
I
have
printer
computer
phone,
it's
just
I,
don't
know
we
named
it
Hobb!
It's
a
community
Hub,
so
teaching
them
increasing
their
knowledge
about
reimagining,
public
safety
and
the
community
Justice
Center.
B
What
we
do,
but
also
providing
them
with
services
that
they
may
not
be
able
to
access
by
living
in
the
rural
areas,
so
Telehealth
connecting
them
with
other
resources
in
the
community.
We
have
the
computers
for
looking
things
up,
helping
them
locate,
doctors
same
thing
with
gratin,
it's
in
the
Groton
Public
Library.
It's
on
Tuesdays
from
12
to
2.
Enfield
is
Wednesdays
12
to
2..
This
is
what
we
did
at
the
Hub
this
week
at
Groton,
I
went
out.
B
I
had
a
couple
sitting
with
me
that
was
accessing
the
food
pantry
very
limited
resources,
limited
knowledge
on
services
that
were
available
to
them.
They
opened
their
mail
sitting
at
the
table
with
me
and
realize
oh
wow,
we've
got
a
medical
appointment
in
Syracuse.
We
have
no
idea
how
we're
even
going
to
figure
out
how
to
get
there.
That's
where
I
come
in,
so
we're
able
to
help
them
locate
the
resources
that
are
available.
The
ice
me
questions,
ask
me
for
information,
help
them
make
appointments,
and
now
they
have
a
ride
to
the
doctors.
B
B
D
Hi
monalita
aye
Donna
here
I
have
three
questions.
One
is
a
follow-up
to
George's
and
thanks
for
asking
that
George.
So
are
you
the
only
person
Staffing
The
Hub,
it
seems
like
it
would
be
appropriately
staffed
by
Tompkins,
County,
Social,
Services
or
other
organizations
as
well.
So
that's
one
question:
you
want
to
go
one
at
a
time
or
all
three
at
once.
B
Sure
no
I
can
go
one
at
a
time
Staffing
at
the
Hub
right
now.
I
am
the
one
Staffing
The
Hub,
just
because
we're
just
getting
it
up
and
running,
it's
only
been
I
think
they've
only
been
running
for
a
month,
so
once
we
start
identifying
and
we
get
to
see
more
needs,
so
what
I'm
doing
is
I'm
tracking
the
number
of
people
that
are
coming
in
to
see
me
while
I'm
there,
the
kind
of
services
they're
looking
for
then
I
can
start
inviting
other
agencies
out.
B
I
could
start
inviting
someone
from
some
social
services
to
come
out
and
handle
some
if
it's
end
up
being
like
they're
looking
for
you
know,
entitlements
and
things
like
that,
we
can
bring
Social
Services
out.
If
it's
mental
health
I
can
reach
out
to
mental
health
and
see
if
we
can
get
someone
that
provides
that
particular
service
to
come
out
and
do
some
hours
there
at
the
Hub.
D
That
sounds
like
a
great
idea:
okay,
so
no.
My
second
question
is
where,
in
the
plan
do
we
find
information
about
how
we
will
be
tracking
data,
such
as
the
use
of
force
by
various
law
enforcement
agencies
and
reports
of
racial
bias
from
people
about
various
law
enforcement
agencies?
Where
which
initiative
do
we
find
that
under
I.
B
B
The
District
Attorney's
office
is
doing
a
dashboard.
We
have.
The
county
has
a
plan.
It's
district
attorney
assigned
Council
on
probation
data
disclosure.
D
B
So
that's
a
county
only
plan,
so
that
won't
show
up
on
the
cjc's
work
plan
because
we're
just
strictly
collaborative
so
some
of
that
information
may
be
available
on
their
plan
or
excuse
me
on
their
dashboard.
So
but
part
of
the
community
dashboard
is
also
being
able
to
link
our
dashboard
to
others
that
are
available
in
the
county.
D
B
B
D
Third
question
is,
and
maybe
you've
shared
this
already,
if
I
missed
it.
If
so
point
me
in
the
right
direction,
who
you
referred
to
a
consultant
who's
going
to
help
with
your
strategic
plan?
Who
is
that
consultant
and
how
did
you
identify
that
consultant
and
again,
if
I
missed
that
already
just
point
me
in
the
right
direction:
I'll
read
it
no.
B
That's
fine
I
didn't
it
hasn't
been
mentioned
this
evening,
so
you
definitely
didn't
miss
it,
but
it
is
a
it's
called
hch
and
they
are
out
of
Rhode
Island
and
there
was
a
process
for
them.
There
was
an
RFP
that
was
put
out.
B
B
We
had
someone
on
our
team
from
Cornell
the
HR
department.
We
had
a
Community
member
that
has
an
extensive
background
in
human
resource
and
is
an
employee
of
Cornell
Cooperative
Extension
she's,
also
a
bipod
Community
member.
So
there
was
a
whole
working
group
that
met
and
went
through
the
interview
process
and
things
of
that
nature.
For
this
group.
G
Hi
Mona.
Thank
you
so
much
for
this
presentation
and
for
being
here
with
us
tonight.
I've
only
got
a
couple
of
questions
since
I.
Think
you've
done
a
really
good
job
of
answering
the
questions
I
originally
had
from
from
prior
counselors.
The
first
one
is:
could
you
break
down
the
the
care
acronym
for
me
again,
I'm
trying
to
maybe
I
missed
it
in
the
in
the
report
here,
but
I'm
missing
the.
B
G
Got
you
and
no
worries
if
you
need
a
little
bit
more
time
for
that,
but
I
I
pre.
The
second
question
that
I
wanted
to
ask
was
in
regards
to
the
wrap
around
alternative.
Services
training
I,
see
funding
for
10
000
for
it
and
I'm
wondering
in
your
estimate
where
what
the
sort
of
calculus
is
for
the
10
000
in
terms
of
what
that's
going
for
relative
to
and
I
think.
This
is
a
point
that
Cynthia
store
have
touched
on
earlier.
G
The
comparison
to
that
versus
the
cultural,
responsive
training
is
where
you
feel
that
the
the
disparity
in
in
that
is,
and
then
as
a
sort
of
follow-up
question
to
that.
G
B
You
may
see
the
vehicle
riding
around
town,
it's
white:
it's
got
a
care
team
logo
on
the
side
of
it,
a
blue,
a
blue
logo
on
the
side
of
it
and
it
says
I
think
believe
it
says
Tompkins
County
sheriff
on
it.
Also.
B
So
that's
what
the
care
team
is
and
it's
the
piloted
program
for
law
enforcement
and
mental
health.
It's
between
the
Sheriff's,
Office
and
Whole
Health
for
immediate
crisis
needs,
so
they
go
out.
They
have
a
they're
not
dressed
in
police,
uniform
things
of
that
nature.
So
that's
the
care
team.
B
Perfect,
so
the
difference
I'm
I'm,
trying
to
remember
our
reasoning
behind
the
difference
in
funding.
For
me,
I
really
think
the
wraparound
Services,
it's
it's
it's
it's
set
in
stone,
whereas
the
culturally
responsive
we're
still
developing.
B
We
have
a
clear
vision
of
what
we
would
like
to
see
for
the
alternative
response
and
the
wrap
around
health
services,
so
that
ten
thousand
dollars
is
to
invite
two
speakers
and
that
that
amount
could
be
if
possibly,
it's
based
off
of
us
identifying
what
we've,
what
we've
already
used
or
already
paid
out
in
having
guest
speakers
come
here
to
town.
So
we
had
two
speakers
and
we
know
it's
going
to
run
us
about.
You
know
five
thousand
dollars
each
and
we're
going
to
come
up.
You
know
what
I
mean.
B
That's
where
that
funding
comes
from.
We
had
a
Clear
Vision
on
that,
whereas
the
possibly
responsive
it's
gonna,
it's
new
we're
in
the
process
of
creating
a
curriculum
right
now,
so
we
allowed
for
a
little
extra
money
or
a
larger
amount
to
make
sure
that
we
have
what
we
need
to
cover.
Whatever
Training
Services,
we
come
up
with
it'll,
be
for
all
of
law
enforcement,
both
County
and
City.
So
I
mean
it
is
a
larger,
larger
group
than
we
may
be,
covering
from
like
doer
and
things
of
that
nature.
I'm,
not
sure.
G
No,
that
that
really
does
and
I
think
we
only
have
I
have
one
follow-up
question,
which
is:
if
the
ten
thousand
dollars
for
the
training
for
wraparound
services
are
predominantly
for
entirely.
It
seems
for
the
guest
speakers
who
who
will
help
with
providing
insights
for
trainings.
What
can
we
sort
of
expect
this
training
sort
of
to
look
like
I
know?
We
have
a
little
bit
of
the
blurb
here,
but
what
type
of
things
can
we
expect
these
First,
Responders
or
alternative
responders
to
be
to
be
learning,
in
particular
from
these
speakers.
B
Well,
I
mean
we're
talking
about
some
interdisciplinary
topics
that
which
will
include
like
Emergency,
Medical
Services
and
the
dispatchers.
So
some
of
the
things
that
they're
talking
about
is
them
providing
a
way
for
individuals
from
these
different
disciplines
to
kind
of
network
with
one
each
one
one
another
excuse
me.
B
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
have
the
outcome
to
be
that
they're
surveyed
they're,
going
to
use
training,
effective,
predictors
to
look
at
the
trainings
and
how
well
how
successful
they
were
I'm
just
running
through
the
document
right
off
the
top
of
my
head
here
and
looking
to
see
I,
don't
think
we
have
listed,
but
what
I
can
do
is
I
can
go
back
to
I'm
doing
this
from
home.
So
I,
don't
have
all
my
notes
in
front
of
me.
I
can
provide
you
with
a
little
bit
more
detailed
explanation.
B
I
can
send
out
a
quick
email
to
council
to
explain
what
those
trainings
will
look
like.
D
H
Thank
you,
I
have
a
few,
not
questions
or
some
commentary.
I
went
away
this
weekend
to
a
local
progress,
convening
and
I
heard
of
some
other
communities.
That's
doing
this
reimagining
work,
which
actually
is
when
I
say
doing
it
have
begun,
and
there
was
someone
who
talked
about
so.
My
question
is
about
the
on
hold
about
traffic.
Stop
in
Ithaca
this
traffic.
Stop
that
we
talked
about
researching,
right
and
I
just
like
to.
H
H
I'll
send
it
to
you
also
yeah.
We
heard
a
lot
about
Cahoots
and
that
stuff
that
they
do
in
Oregon
and
I
was
so
blown
away
by
an
organization.
I
mean
Durham
Durham,
who
has
a
public
safety
Community.
Also
that
has
done
this
work
and
was
wondering.
Is
there
a
way
that
we
can
also?
You
know,
because
reimagining
Public
Safety
feel
like
it's
on
hold
and
I'm,
so
grateful
for
all
that
you
do.
H
But
if
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
kind
of
look
at
some
of
the
things
that
they're
doing,
because
it
really
sound,
really
inviting
and
just
young
people
were
just
I-
was
just
amazed,
so
I'm
gonna
send
those
to
you
and
they've
been
calling
me
because
I
told
them
about
what
has
happened
here
in
Ithaca,
the
pushback
and
the
slow
process,
and
so
I
will
want
to
have
more
conversation
about
it.
With
you
absolutely.
B
I'm
open
my
door
is
always
open.
You
can
reach
me
I'm
eating
by
email
or
phone
I
would
like
to
say
that
reimagining,
it's
not
on
hold.
We
are
working
behind
the
scenes.
We've
got
lots
of
plans
going
right
now
and
lots
of
movement
happening.
B
It
may
not
seem
that
way,
so
we
are
working
on
getting
this
information
to
the
public.
So
one
thing
we're
doing
is
we're
getting
ready
to
start
a
newsletter.
That's
going
to
come
out,
so
it
tells
the
community.
This
is
where
we're
at.
This
is
what
we're
doing.
This
is
how
you
can
help,
and
this
is
how
you
can
be
involved.
B
So
there's
definitely
it
was
slow,
getting
started,
but
I
mean
we're
we're
definitely
working
so,
but
I
I
welcome
the
opportunity
to
talk
with
you
about
these
other
places
that
I
have
looked
at
the
Cahoots
model
and
you
know
seen
some
things
that
they're
doing
so
I'm
fine,
thank
you
so
yeah
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
at
any
time
sure.
A
A
Okay,
we
are
going
to
move
on
to
a
review
of
capital
projects
and,
as
we
do
that,
let
me
let
me
first
say
that
this
is
the
first
presentation
of
the
capital
projects.
The
capital
projects
review
team
has
been
meeting
throughout
the
month
of
of
August
I
want
to
thank
staff
who
have
worked
on
this
staff
who
submitted
proposals
and
who
have
also
been
thoughtful
in
terms
of
considering
projects
for
either
Capital
project
inclusion
or
where
there
are
opportunities
to
include
something
in
our
operating
budget.
A
So
this
is
the
first
opportunity
to
look
at
the
capital
projects.
There
will
be
a
capital,
Project's
final
review,
October
19th,
any
questions
on
from
Council
on
on
changes
or
questions.
You
may
have
will
come
after
the
October
4th
meeting
where
the
budget
is
presented.
If,
after
this
evening,
any
council
member
has
questions
about
any
items
we'll
be
covering,
you
can
send
questions
to
Chief
of
Staff
Deb
molenhoff
and
she
will
correspond
with
she
will
coordinate
rather
with
department
heads
and
be
able
to
provide,
be
able
to
provide
responses.
A
As
always,
there
is
a
limit
to
how
much
we
can
include
in
our
capital
projects
each
year.
Steve
Thayer
controller
is
here
this
evening,
as
is
Deb
molinhoff
Chief
of
Staff,
so
I
may
be
referring
to
them
to
respond
to
some
questions,
but
one
of
the
items
in
the
packet
is
the
capital
project
review
summary,
and
you
will
note
on
the
review
summary
that
there
are
items
that
have
been
moved
to
the
operating
budget.
A
There
are
some
requests
that
are
not
being
recommended
because
we
will
be
able
to
use
existing
funds
and
there
are
some
requests
where
we
will
be
able
to
make
a
partial
award
from
capital
projects.
So
let
me
now
turn
to
very
helpful.
A
Report
and
I
I
believe
Scott.
You
have
the
capital
projects
review
PowerPoint,
so
I
will
ask
that
that
be
put
up.
Foreign.
A
First,
I
should
point
out
that
the
capital
projects
committee
has
included
myself
the
controller,
the
chief
of
staff,
superintendent
of
Public
Works
and
the
director
of
planning
and
development.
A
Okay,
the
the
goal
is
to
look
at
capital
projects
that
will
come
in
at
five
million
dollars
and
as
Steve
Thayer
has
reported
in
many
of
our
meetings,
Council
meetings.
There
is
a
limit
to
the
amount
that
we
can
borrow
our
debt
service
overview.
A
As
many
in
this
room
know,
we
are
still
dealing
with
pandemic
impacts
in
February
2022.
We
were
able
to
borrow,
and
the
borrowing
rate
has
changed
since
then.
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
debt
issued
in
2024
does
have
an
impact
on
the
future,
as
Steve
has
reminded
us
more
than
once,
and
the
full
impact
of
2024
borrowing
is
in
2026.,
so
the
city
is
limited
in
our
ability
to
to
borrow.
A
We
are
currently
at
154
million,
with
approximately
44
million
available
to
us
we're
at
70
to
73
percent
of
debt
used.
We
don't
want
to
increase
that
significantly.
90
percent
is
a
red
flag
for
the
city
and
the
lower
our
debt
limit,
the
lower
our
debt
load.
It
means
greater
flexibility
for
unanticipated
expenses
and
there
are
always
on
anticipated
expenses.
A
A
I
will
point
out
as
again
I
believe
all
on
Council
understand
the
Opera
funds
are
not
ongoing
funds.
These
are
one-time
funds
and
we
have
used
up
almost
all
and
I'll
refer
to
Steve
for
any
remaining
arpa
funds,
but
we
used
arpa
funds
as
intended
for
various
types
of
payments
to
help
with
Revenue
loss
that
we
were
experiencing
during
covid
Revenue
replacement,
and
you
see
that
capital
projects
were
also
improved.
A
We
were
able
to
have
an
impact,
I
should
say
on
capital
projects
thanks
to
arpa
arpa
funds,
so
capital
projects
in
2023,
arpa
made
up
54
percent
and
you
see
listed
some
of
the
projects
that
were
covered
in
planning,
many
retail
Grant
Workforce
free
entry
program,
IFD
fire
vehicle,
East,
Hill,
fire
station
relocation,
cast
Park,
rink
renovation
and
pool
improvements,
public
information
and
Technology.
We
are
moving
to
opengov
software
that
had
and
has
an
ongoing
cost
and
green
New
Deal
public
EV
charging
stations.
A
It
comes
as
no
surprise
to
anyone
in
this
room
that
our
city
facilities
have
suffered
from
deferred
maintenance,
City
Hall.
It
wasn't
that
long
ago
that
we
did
not
have
a
functioning
elevator
and
it
required
a
five
hundred
thousand
dollar
fix
for
an
aging
elevator
in
an
aging
building.
Ipd
has
had
ongoing
serious
facility
concerns
their
HVAC,
the
repair
they
have.
A
A
number
of
concerns
with
that
aging
facility,
water
and
sewer,
and
irony
here,
is
that
water
and
sewer
has
a
leaking
roof
and
unstable
structure
and
the
amount
of
money
that
it
would
take
to
fully
Rectify
those
situations.
A
Gf
we've
talked
for
a
few
years
about
the
gym
construction,
which,
at
the
outset
of
the
discussion,
was
estimated
to
come
in
at
three
million
dollars.
It
came
in
at
a
much
higher
amount.
A
Our
parking
garages,
the
Seneca
Street
Garage,
is
50
years
old
and
really
at
the
end
of
its
life.
We
regularly
hear
concerns
complaints
from
members
of
the
public,
because
the
elevators
are
not
dependable
and
IFD.
Most
stations
are
in
need
of
Maintenance
and
upkeep
to
their
their
facilities
in
terms
of
streets
and
infrastructure.
This
we
mentioned
last
year
around
capital
projects.
That
bear
is
mentioning
again.
We
should
be
repairing
five
percent
of
roads
per
year,
but
we're
actually
doing
far
far
less
than
that
with
limited
funds.
A
We
should
be
repairing
one
mile
of
pipe
per
year,
but
actually
only
able
to
address
a
third
of
a
mile
of
that
repair,
streets
and
infrastructure.
We
have
predictable
emergency
needs.
We
have
an
average
of
25
water
main
breaks
per
year
and
some
of
those
water
main
breaks
can
be
more
quickly
addressed.
Others
may
take
a
month
or
longer
to
repair
and
I.
Think
many
of
us
hear
from
our
constituents
where
there
have
been
repairs
that
take
a
considerable
amount
of
time.
A
This
creates
emergency
spending
and
you'll
see
in
the
summary
sheet
that
we
have
built
in
again.
Two
hundred
dollar
emergency
repair
funds
having
to
close
roads
disrupts
traffic,
including
tcats
or
public
transit
system,
is
disrupted
when
there
are
emergency
closures
and
work
that
needs
to
be
done
by
our
DPW
staff.
A
So
this
year
we
received
request
for
capital
projects
that
totaled
21
well,
20
million
568
000
in
requests.
The
total
that
is
approved
by
the
capital
projects,
Review
Committee,
including
myself,
comes
in
just
over
five
million
dollars.
We
aim
for
it
to
be
in
that
area.
A
Just
slightly
under
five
million
dollars
would
be
ideal.
So,
let's
move
to
some
of
the
approved
projects
from
engineering,
Cass
Park,
the
bathroom
building
replacement.
We
are
approving
fifty
thousand
dollars.
This
is
in
design.
It
will
take
far
more
than
that
when
we
get
to
the
design,
completed
and
move
to
Construction.
A
A
Yeah
I'm,
sorry,
I'm,
coordinating
and
I
also
want
to
thank
Scott
Andrew
for
being
here
this
evening
and
doing
our.
A
Technology
and
my
computer
just.
A
And
we
are
able
to
once
again
fund
fifty
thousand
dollars.
This
is
for
survey
and
design.
You
see
that
construction
will
be
far
far
more
in
the
700
000
range
and
again
there
are
photos.
There
are
examples
of
the
steward
of
Curbing
and
sidewalk
and
I
believe
that
our
representatives
from
college
town
are
very
well
aware
of
of
the
needs
there.
A
Seneca
Street
Parking
Garage
again,
this
is
an
aging
facility.
We
have
once
again
approved
funds
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
This
should
buy
us
some
time
as
we
look
to
make
improvements,
but
it
is
going
to
also
require
funding
in
the
2025
budget.
A
So
these
items
that
you're
seeing
right
now
are
indications
of
where
we
have
had
to
defer
maintenance
and
the
Deferred
maintenance
is
now
catching
up
with
us,
and
here
too
you
see
some
of
the
photos
from
the
Seneca
Street
Parking
Garage
I
will
thank
chief
of
staff
for
going
around
with
our
superintendent,
our
DPW
superintendent,
and
being
able
to
take
some
of
of
these
photos.
A
So
it's
a
Fire
Department
fire
station
Renovations
We've
approved
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
renovations
that
are
needed
at
our
our
fire
stations.
This
is
utility
and
Energy
Efficiency
bathroom
shower
Renovations
floor
replacement.
Much
of
the
building
envelope
and
HVAC
equipment
is
original
to
the
building
Central
fire
station
and
we're
in
need
of
Renovations.
A
There
is
an
engineering
company
consultant,
valencpina
Council,
approved
the
funding
for
that
organization
to
report
and
identify
the
most
critical
needs
and
to
develop
a
timeline
and
cost
projections.
But
for
the
moment
we
are
including
in
capital
projects
three
hundred
thousand
dollars,
also
for
IFD,
two
fire
truck
pumper
Replacements.
A
These
are
costly
items,
as
you
see
in
2024
approving
one
million
dollars
and
just
to
highlight
that
this
would
replace
2009
Pumpers
that
will
be
15
years
old.
We
have
been
talking
about
and
looking
at
electric
vehicles,
but
for
the
moment
we
are
looking
at
two
diesel
powered
pumper
engines
that
will
be
placed
in
in
reserve
ipd.
A
Has
requested
vehicle
replacement
and
the
replacement
of
outdated
equipment?
We
have
approved
282
thousand
dollars
for
that
public
information
and
Technology
video
surveillance
equipment.
We've
approved
ninety
thousand
dollars
for
this
much
needed
surveillance
equipment
and
we
were
in
a
meeting
just
earlier
today
where
the
the
need
for
this
equipment
is
really
been
highlighted
and
it
will
improve
safety
throughout
the
city,
streets
and
Facilities
again
we're
looking
at
very
costly
equipment.
A
Water
and
sewer
and
you'll
notice
that
water
and
sewer
is
separate
on
the
summary
sheet.
It
is
included
on
the
summary
sheet:
510
First
Street
renovation.
This
is
a
really
aging
structure
and
we're
approving
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
2024
capital
projects
and
and
again
there's
a
real
need
for
attention
to
to
this
building.
As
I
said
it
the
irony
that
it's,
the
Water
and
Sewer
Department
that
has
its
roof
leaking
on
a
regular
basis.
A
Approving
325
thousand
dollars,
this
two
is
for
design.
Construction
would
require
far
greater
amounts,
but
the
cities
infrastructure,
the
under
the
ground
infrastructure,
the
water
main.
These
are
systems
that
are
100
120
years
old.
We
wonder
why
we
have
water
main
breaks,
and
one
of
the
reasons,
no
doubt
is
because
of
the
age
of
our
infrastructure,
so
we're
approving
325
000
for
for
design
and
then
water
main
replacement.
A
This
is
an
area
where
we're
splitting
the
cost
between
2024
and
2025,
rather
than
the
one
having
one
significant
hit
to
the
2024
budget,
but
approving
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
2024
budget
and
you'll
note.
The
city
has
roughly
5
650
water
meters
in
service,
which
is
significant
and
the
new
units
that
this
replacement
will
enable
employs
a
modern
system
with
a
cloud-based
recording
system
that
can
be
accessed
in
real
time.
That's
going
to
have
tremendous
benefit
for
our
water
and
sewer
staff,
and
also
benefits
for
City
residents,
foreign.
A
This
is
an
area
where,
again,
there
has
been
deferred
maintenance.
This
has
been
on
our
Budget
on
our
agenda
for
a
number
of
years,
but
we
are
approving
250
000
it
as
you
see,
has
been
funded
in
incremental
amounts
for
the
past
several
years,
and
accumulated
funds
will
be
used
for
the
local
share
of
future
grant
funding.
So
the
city
staff
have
been
working
on
a
number
of
Grants.
A
This
is
one
of
the
area
where
we
hope
there
will
be
receipt
of
grant
funding
in
the
future.
A
It's
a
youth
Bureau
cast
Park
fire
detection
system
replacement.
This
is
in
2024,
fifteen
thousand
dollars
to
replace
a
36
year
old
fire
system,
and
certainly
we
are
concerned
about
a
system
that
is
that
old
and
unreliable.
A
There
are
devices
that
have
failed
panel
failures,
so
there's
a
real
need
for
for
this
replacement
and
then
finally,
you
saw
in
the
packet
the
overview
and
I
will
just
ask
if
there
are
any
questions
at
this
time,
recognizing
that
this
is
an
initial
report,
there
will
be
time
for
input
on
the
budget
once
the
full
budget
is
presented,
October
4th,
but
we
wanted
to
provide
this
information
so
that
you
had
the
most
recent
updates.
Robert
thanks.
C
Mayor
for
the
presentation
and
thank
you,
capital
projects,
Review
Committee,
for
putting
this
together
for
us
in
the
spirit
of
the
reminder
you
just
gave
us,
the
only
question
I
have
was
I
think
it
was
in
the
slides
how
much
in
arpa
funds
is
remaining
unobligated.
A
I
Yeah,
so
if
you
recall,
we
had
it
for
16
million
dollars
in
arpa
funds,
we
have
roughly
400
000
unobligated.
Now
that
number
could
change,
because
you
know
we
committed
funds
to
various
projects
and
sometimes
those
projects
come
in
lower
higher
than
than
originally
authorized.
So
it
really
depends,
but
that's
about
where
we
are
at
this
point
in
time.
I
The
answer
right,
no
no
100
100
sounds
like
a
lot
of
money,
but
as
you
see,
we
have
huge
needs
right
and
it
doesn't
stick
around
very
long.
So.
A
F
I
I
Well,
so
we
had
a
time.
Last
year,
we've
had
two
budgets
that
we've
used
up
most
of
those
arpa
funds
during
yeah
that
period
of
time.
F
I
And
certainly
I
mean
if
you
want
details,
you
know
of
the
expenses
I
can
I.
D
H
H
It
was
like
15,
20,
100
years
and
I'm
kind
of,
like
oh
I,
mean
being
on
the
council
and
knowing
the
council
is
like,
so
what
was
getting
fixed
and
what
was
being
taken
care
of
not
and
I've,
seen
that
but
I
just
I'm
just
saying
a
lot
of
of
these
things,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
where
basically
was
the
money
going
right
and
when
did
you
get
the
Oppa
16
million
and
just
going
through
my
head,
so
I'm
hoping
future
councils
like
these
things
we
do
need
these
fixed
is,
is
emergency
pretty
much
but
I
just
you
know,
I'm
thinking
about
my
house
and
a
lot
of
things
like
like
maintaining
over
time-
and
this
sounds
like
this-
is
something
that
has
not
been
happening
and
how
do
we
do
this
differently
right
so
that
you
know
our
new
council
members
coming
after
us?
H
A
That
that's
a
good
question
and
a
good
point.
We
wind
up
in
this
place
because
we
have
had
to
make
decisions
and
they
have
been
difficult
decisions.
Do
we
repair
this
road
and
not
that
road?
Do
we
look
at
the
let's
take,
for
example,
the
Seneca
Street
Parking
Garage?
A
There
are
repairs
that
we
may
not
know
about
on
a
particular
date
and
yet
the
that
infrastructure
that
parking
garage
continues
to
to
deteriorate.
We
may
not
know,
for
example,
even
about
some
of
the
infrastructure
under
a
road
and
the
condition
it's
in
until
I'm
I'm
thinking
of
one
example,
where
there
was
a
plan
to
repave
a
road
in
so
doing
what
was
revealed,
it's
kind
of
like
peeling,
the
lid
off
the
top
and
all
of
a
sudden.
A
You
realize
that
there's
really
significant
infrastructure
in
terms
of
pipes
that
need
repair.
So
you
start
out
I'm
thinking
about
projects
in
my
house
where
I
may
have
a
particular
project
and
as
I
delve
into
it.
It's
like
it
becomes
a
larger
issue
and
a
larger
project,
and
that
certainly
has
happened
with
some
of
the
DPW
projects.
For
example,
Steve
I
don't
know
if
you
had
any
comment
on
that.
Well,.
I
It's
you
know
it's.
The
budget
process
is
always
complicated,
challenging
every
single
year
and
there's
always
some
drivers
of
of
that
budget,
but
I
mean
if
you
look
over
time,
revenues
generally
aren't
keeping
up
with
your
expenses
for
City
operations
and
So.
Eventually,
you
have
to
make
decisions
on.
Do
we
repair
that
street
this
year?
Do
we
put
it
off
another
year,
and
so
what
happens
is
eventually
you
just
keep.
You
know.
B
I
Have
so
many
things
coming
at
you
to
put
in
your
operating
funds,
you
have
limited
funds,
you
have
limited
ability
to
tax,
limited
ability
to
borrow
and
So.
Eventually,
you've
come
to
this
place
where
every
year
you
need
to
replace
whatever
it
is.
You
know
10
of
your
streets,
but
by
the
time
you
get
through
the
process,
you're
only
replacing
one
percent
and
then
so
just
over
time.
I
It
erodes
and
erodes-
and
you
know
the
perfect
world
would
be-
you
would
be
putting
money
aside
every
single
year
to
to
fix
all
the
things,
but
it's
just
it's
it's
impossible
to
do
that
and-
and
you
know
with
what
we
have
facing
us
as
far
as
capital
needs.
A
J
Should
know
because
we've
passed
some
of
these
Bond
resolutions,
but
what's
the
average
length
of
a
bond
and
does
the
so
154
million
were
in
the
whole
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
like
it
seems
like
an
incredible
amount
of
money,
but
if,
like
the
bond
length,
is
20
years
and
we're
issuing
like
five
to
seven
million
a
year,
so
you
can
see
how
it
all
adds
up.
I'm.
Sorry,
if
you
have
that
offhanded.
If
you
don't,
then
just
a
question
that
might
help
the
public
yeah.
I
I
mean
the
average
is
so
you
can.
The
average
life
is
anywhere
from.
You
know
a
five
well
actually
three
to
thirty
years
and
so
we're
in
the
neighborhood
of
like
15-year
average
life,
but
it
it.
You.
D
I
The
problem
is,
debt,
expenses
continue
to
go
up,
and
what
we
try
to
do
here
is
focus
on
reducing
that
overall
debt
burden
for
the
city,
because
it
is
limited,
it's
not
unlimited
funds
there,
and
so
we
try
as
much
as
possible
to
you
know,
fund
whatever
we
can
with
operating
funds
cash
basically
and
borrow
as
little
as
possible,
and
when
we
go
out
to
borrow,
we
try
to
leverage
that
with
a
lot
of
other
sources
like
our
bridge
program-
or
you
know
it's
anywhere
from
85
to
95
percent
funded
outside
in
the
city's
portion
of
that
cost
is
only
five
percent,
but
a
lot
of
times.
B
K
Clarify
both
your
questions,
remember
75,
of
what
we
have
to
pay
for
is
Personnel
benefits
and
people,
so
once
that's
and
those
are
pretty
much
fixed
costs
and
dictated
by
they
were
contracts.
So
75
of
what
you
have
available
to
spend
on
things
is
already
you
know
used
for
for
the
people,
then
that
only
leaves
you
a
much
smaller
piece
to
figure
out
what
you're
going
to
pay
for
so.
F
I
I
just
to
to
Phoebe's
concern
about
deferred
maintenance
and,
to
just
remind
us
all
when
we
defer
maintenance
fixing,
the
problems
often
become
a
lot
more
expensive
when
we
finally
get
around
to
fixing
them.
So
that's
something
we
should
think
about
and
I
in
terms
of
capital
projects
and
and
things
that
we've
left
off
the
capital
project
list
this
year,
I'm
wondering
if
there's
ways
to
to
deal
with
things
differently
and
I,
I'm
thinking
specifically
about
the
public
information
and
Technology
vehicle.
F
That
department
has
to
go
all
over
the
city
to
different
offices
to
help
with
their
computers
and
such
so
it
makes
sense
that
they
would
be
able
to
move
around
at
will
with
a
vehicle.
Is
there
ways
that
we
can
like
use
an
old
police
vehicle
or.
A
K
What
happened,
what
was
good
about
them,
submitting
that
Capital
project?
Is
it
forced
us
to
then
have
a
larger
question
so
at
a
department
head
meeting
we
said:
okay?
Does
anyone
have
vehicles
sitting
around
that
they're
not
using,
and
we
learned
that
there
are
Vans
sitting
in
parking
lots,
so
what
we're
going
to
end
up
doing
is
looking
at
formalizing
the
ability
to
move
vehicles
around
exactly
for
that
purpose.
So
we
don't
have
to
spend
money.
B
K
F
K
A
That's
a
that's
a
good
question,
so
please
do
look
at
the
far
right
column.
For
example,
there
are
I
mentioned.
There
are
capital
requests
that
we
are
moving
into
the
operating
budget.
There
are
some
requests
that
are
being
covered
using
existing
funds.
So
if
you
note
in
engineering
Vision
zero,
it's
not
not
recommended
because
we
will
look
at
using
existing
funds,
so
we
paid
really
close
attention
to
where
we
could
shift
something
and
cover
it
in
another
way.
A
A
Yes,
specific
questions:
you
can
send
them
to
Deb
and
she
will
collate
them
and
give
them
to
got
it
thanks.
Yeah
Rob.
L
Yeah
thanks
for
this
conversation,
because
I
think
it
is
really
important
for
us
to
understand
how
we
find
ourselves
in
this
situation
and
the
kind
of
hill
we
have
to
climb
almost
impossibly
to
catch
up,
but
I
guess
one
question
I
have,
and
it
relates
to
the
other
sources
of
funding
which
I
think
people
have
referenced
here
and
there
like
either
grants
like,
for
example,
the
dam
project
I
think
is
a
strategy
of
collecting
some
money
annually,
but
then
using
that
as
a
base
to
go
after
some
grant
funding,
I
note
that
there's
a
at
least
a
couple
of
projects
that
I
think
have
thought
about
in
my
eight
years
on
Council
that
sometimes
come
up
and
down
on
this
list
that
don't
even
appear
right
now,
but
they
haven't
gone
away.
L
It's
the
six
corners
intersection,
it's
Stewart
Avenue,
and
these
are
fairly
good
sized
projects
and
I
understand.
We
don't
have
the
funding
for
that.
So
my
question
is:
where
do
we
keep
track
of
those
things
because
they're
no
they're
not
on
this
list?
L
But
what
are
we
doing
to
get
that
money?
And
is
there
something
we
need
to
do
as
a
city
to
help
like?
Do
we
need
to
authorize
a
person
who
is
an
expert
at
writing
and
getting
grants,
and
is
that
going
to
be
anywhere
on
the
horizon,
whether
it's
connected
to
capital
projects
or
probably
more
likely,
the
operating
budget?
That's
going
to
come
forward.
So
these
are
the
kind
of
things
that
I
hope
that
we're
paying
attention
to.
A
And
it
definitely
is
the
case.
You
put
your
finger
on
a
couple
of
really
important
points
so.
A
I
will
say
that
City
staff
have
been
aggressively
following
where
grants
are
an
opportunity
and
working
with
other
agencies
and
organizations.
Now
your
second
point
and
I
saw
Steve
smiling
and
Deb
smiling.
We
have
talked
we
talked
last
year
and
we're
talking
again
this
year
about
the
need
for
dedicated
staff
person
staff
time
for
grant
writing
now.
A
It
will
always
be
the
case
that,
for
example,
the
DPW
superintendent
may
have
the
most
Salient
information
that
would
be
able
to
be
presented
in
a
in
a
Grant
application
and
then
follow
up
with
the
relevant
agencies
but
yeah.
No,
you
put
your
finger
on
a
good
thing
and
I
will
say
that
some
of
the
projects,
two
of
which
you
highlighted,
remain
on
City
staff
radar.
L
If
I
could
and
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
this
was
not
in
any
way
seen
as
a
as
a
saying
that
our
staff
don't
do
the
work
on
funding,
because
they've
found
us
some
pretty
incredible
sources
of
funding.
That's
one
of
the
things
I
learned
in
my
eight
years
here
is
that
we
have
some
pretty
amazing
staff.
L
K
Mean
to
enhance
what
you're
saying
the
other
thing
to
remember
is
the
management
and
maintenance
and
recording
reporting
requirements
of
those
grants
are
also
quite
complicated
and
end
up
in
six
different
offices
and
are
hard
to
coordinate.
So
not
only
is
there
a
need
for
someone
who
has
the
writer
that
you
know
the
exploring
and
also
helping
us
prioritize.
You
know,
because
we
just
had
this
conversation
yesterday
about
some
opportunities
that
were
put
in
front
of
us
from
Senator
Webb's
office,
and
then
it's
sort
of
like
do
we
need.
K
Can
we
even
do
we
even
have
the
capacity
to
apply
for
this
money,
knowing
how
complicated
it
might
be
to
actually
then
acquire
it
and
maintain
it,
and
that
is
a
bad
place
to
be
in.
If
you
feel
like
you
have
hit
staff
capacity
to
a
point
where
you
can't
even
manage
a
grant,
so
it
causes
you
to
question
whether
or
not
you
should
even
apply
for
the
funding.
So
that's
another
argument
for
putting
some
concentrated
capacity
of
of
Staff
into
this
issue.
K
G
Think
that's
a
a
very
good
point
and
Rob
thank
you
for
bringing
up
that
point
because
I
think
it's
a
really
important
one
and
one
that
I
agree
with
and
I'm
wondering
and
I
don't
mean
to
hold
this
up
here,
because
I
think
we're
pretty
set
to
move
on.
But
I
think
this
might
be
something
for
counselors
to
consider
going
forward
is
maybe
we
have
to
Rob's
point
about
like
these
sort
of
these
lists
of
these
massive.
G
You
know
almost
Larger
than
Life
projects
that
we
don't
see
here
that
City
staff
is
keeping
track
of,
but
I'm
wondering
if
there
are
opportunities,
not
I,
think
you
know
going
forward
with.
You
know
we're
in
our
budget
season
now,
but
going
forward
looking
to
like
the
next
year
and
on
of
opportunities
to
sort
of
keep
the
the
council
up
to
date
about
these
projects
that
we
sort
of
have
in
reserve
that
we're
waiting
for
opportunities
to
sort
of
pounce
on
with
federal
or
state
money
or
when
we
have
more
capacity.
G
I
think
that
could
be
really
beneficial
as
it
at
the
very
least.
It
gives
more
for
us
as
counselors,
to
engage
our
constituents
who
might
be
raising
questions
for
this,
but
in
general
it
could
be
something
that
we're
able
to
you
know
as
counselors
see
or
flag
something
for
City
staff,
and,
just
you
know,
more
coordination.
Communication
that
regard
is
is
great
and
and
again
to
Rob's
point.
This
isn't
like
to
undermine
or
suggest
that
you
guys
aren't
keeping
track
of
anything
at
all.
G
No
I
I
think
you
guys
are
doing
great
on
that
front,
but
I
think
more
just
in
general,
more
opportunity
to
just
keep,
especially
for
new
incoming
counselors.
What
are
these
bigger
projects
that
we
have,
that
we've
been
keeping
track
of,
that
we
just
don't
have
the
capacity
for
so
that
counselors
have
a
better
understanding
of
the
the
lay
of
the
land.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
and
let
me
just
remind
everyone
in
response
to
Donna's
question,
there
will
be
opportunity
for
Council
to
ask
specific
questions
on
October
19th,
and
that
is
after
the
budget
is
presented
on
October
4th.
So
I
just
want
to
encourage
people
to
keep
track
of
your
questions
and
to
send
them
to
Deb.
So
she
can
do
some
research
and
find
answers.
Phoebe.
H
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
wasn't
I'm
with
I'm,
not
saying
that
the
city
doesn't
do
the
job,
that
they
need
to
do.
I'm
just
saying
for
us
to
have
talk
about
buildings
that
are
crumbling
and
leaks
and
stuff
it.
We
have
to
I'm
just
hoping
that
whoever
comes
on
this
Council
just
remind
themselves
that
we
we
have
to
keep
an
eye
out
and
so
yeah.
That's
it.
E
Thank
you,
and-
and
this
is
it's
always
the
the
hard
part
as
we
enter
into
budget
season
and
having
to
make
decisions
over
you
know
several,
you
know
obviously
very
high
need
projects.
E
One
of
the
concerns
that
I
have
is
one
of
the
projects
that
is
not
been
identified
as
being
funded
is
something
that
has
come
to
Council
in
the
past,
and
that
is
the
courthouse
building,
and
so,
when
we
think
about
our
own
needs
and
our
own
operations,
we
also
have
presumably
obligations
to
other
organizations
that
are
using
City
facilities.
E
E
I
know
it's
not
and
that's
what
I'm
saying
is
that
it's
this
project
has
come
to
us
a
couple
years
in
a
row
now
and
getting
an
understanding
of
what
this
impact
is
by
again
choosing
not
to
fund
it.
What
is
this
having
on
on
this
organization,
which
is
not
a
city
Department,
we
don't
hear
from
their
employees.
We
don't
understand
the
impacts,
so
that
would
be
helpful
as
well
sure.
A
A
I
do
want
us
to
turn
to
the
remaining
topic
on
tonight's
agenda,
and
that
is
an
overview
of
cities
outside
agency
funding.
This
has
come
up
each
year
in
budget
time,
and
here
I
will
turn
to
Deb
and
Steve.
K
K
You
know
we
said
what
information
do
you
need
in
order
to
make
good
budget
decisions
and
one
of
the
things
that
came
forward
was:
can
you
give
us
a
better
understanding
of
who
we
fund
and
how
we
fund
them?
So
it's?
It
was
once
we
started
to
dig
into
this,
you
can
see
how
complicated
it
was
to
try
to
explain
to
you
how
we've
how
we
fund,
where
the
sources
of
funding
are
so
really
I'm.
Just
this
is
the
second
to
last
page
in
your
packet.
K
So
if
you're,
all
following
along
or
scrolling
scrolling
all
the
way
down
we're
looking
at
the
city
of
Ithaca
funding
of
outside
agencies-
and
so
the
first
thing
that
we
wanted
to
point
out
is
to
give
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
we
have
a
very
complicated
agreement
with
the
county
and
I
actually
did
dig
out
a
PowerPoint
that
the
very
first
Chief
of
Staff
Kevin
Sutherland,
made
many
years
ago.
K
So
if
anyone
wants
a
tutorial
on
the
quadratic
equation,
that
gets
us
to
the
place
that
we
get
where
we
find,
you
know
why,
how
we
have
so
much
money
from
the
sales
tax
agreement
I
can
I
can
send
that
along
to
you.
If,
if
you're
interested,
he
did
an
excellent
job
distilling
down
something
that's
very
complicated.
So
there
is
a
pot
of
money
that
is
derived
from
sales
tax
through
a
very
like
I,
said:
complicated
calculation
and
the
county
and
the
city.
K
We
both
contract
with
an
organization
Human
Services
Coalition
in
order
to
perform
a
really
comprehensive
allocation
process
of
just
that
part
of
money,
and
then
you'll
see
the
second
line
down
HSC
Administration.
We
fund
them
in
order
to
assist
their
operation
with
this
process
that
they
go
through.
K
So
I
will
go
back
up
and
then
I'm
I'm
not
going
to
read
this
table
to
you,
I'm,
just
simply
going
to
describe
how
we
tried
to
break
this
down
for
you.
So
the
first
section
is
non-profit
organizations
and
then
contracted
services.
So
some
of
these
things
are
organizations
that
have
been
identified
by
Council.
One
Council
has
modified
the
budget
once
the
budget
process
has
gotten
to
council
some
of
them,
so
the
so,
for
example,
the
Tompkins
County
Public
Library,
the
History
Center
mental
health
coordinator
Etc.
K
Some
of
those
things
were
things
that
were
entered
into
the
budget.
Either
a
mayor
decided
that
it
was
important
to
fund
a
particular
organization
or
Council
decided.
It
was
important
to
fund
a
particular
organization,
so
those
are
what
these
are
the
I'm
trying
to
just
call
out
anything
specifically
iaed
and
if
you're
looking
for
that
in
the
budget,
it
still
is
labeled
as
their
own
name,
which
is
tcad,
but
that's
Economic
Development,
so
that
is
sort
of
us.
K
We
consider
that
a
supplement
to
the
city's
Economic
Development
work,
that's
something
annual
that
we've
given
and
they
get
the
same
budget
guidelines
that
departments
get,
but
we
have
funded
that
annually.
So
we're
sort
of
looking
at
that
as
like
semi-contracted
services,
the
the
same
thing
for
the
CSI
and
I
apologize
that
for
some
reason
the
amount
did
not
show
up
on
this
table.
I'll
fill
that
in
and
and
send
that
background
to
everyone.
I,
don't
know
why
it
didn't
appear,
but
it
that
is
it's
a
nominal
amount.
Steve
I
think
it's
yeah.
K
Say
it's
like
twelve
thousand
and
that
is
actually
to
the
water
fund.
Not
doesn't
come
out
of
City
budget
and
the
rest.
I
I
think
you
can
kind
of
read
the
supplemental
notes,
so
those
are
the
other
two
I
would
just
the
couple
I
wanted
to
call
out.
Then
we've
listed
this
sort
of
facilities,
we
don't
own,
but
don't
but
do
not
operate.
We
get
a
lot
of
questions
about
these
things
all
the
time
we
have
very
different
contracts
which
eat
with
and
leases
and
various
different
kinds
of
arrangements.
K
So
south
side
you'll
see
we
contribute
money
for
programming
and
that's
what
you'll
see
is
the
money
there
in
the
this
first
line
that
you'll
see
but
their
maintenance
of
their
building?
That's
actually
not
broken
out,
that's
part
of
the
Department
of
Public
Works
budget
and
we
don't
collect
any
rent
from
South
Side
there,
they're,
rent,
free
and
the
asterisk.
Next
to
this,
200
000
was
a
designation
of
a
specific
project,
the
kitchen
remodel,
and
that
came
from
arpa
funds
in
the
previous
years
that
was
just
funded
as
part
of
the
regular
City
budget
process.
K
Hanger
theater
you'll
see
there
were
a
couple
years
where
the
city
decided
to
contribute
as
a
portion
of
a
capital
campaign
for
the
hangar
theater.
We
were
supporting
their
big
renovation
and
then
you'll
see
that
that's
blank
because
we
haven't
given
them
money
the
past
few
years
they
do
pay
the
rid
the
city
rent.
It's
also
an
incredibly
complicated
lease
agreement.
I
can
give
that
to
anyone
who
wants
to
take
a
look
at
that
the
city
court.
Again
we
own
the
building,
we
don't
operate
it
and
there's
an
annual
maintenance
agreement
for
that
building.
K
So
they
pay
me
they
pay
maintenance
to
the
city.
For
that,
then,
the
farmer's
market
is
something
different
than
the
rest
of
them
that
the
in
this
case
the
city
owns
the
land
and
not
the
building.
The
rent
is
paid
through
the
irura
and
that's
based
on
sales.
So
that's
that
next
section
and
then
the
last
section
are
things
that
we
designated
as
mandated
Services.
K
Don't
necessarily
have
a
particular
motive
for
sharing
this
with
you
other
than
it
was
asked
for
at
one
of
the
city
Administration
committee
meetings,
and
we
hope
this
gives
you
a
good
sense
of
this
sort
of
where
we
are
with
how
we
give
money
to
organizations
yeah
thanks.
H
My
question
is:
I,
don't
see,
I
just
want
to
know
how
do
other
organizations
so,
for
instance,
black
hands,
use
the
versal
and
UPI
how
what
what
that
money
is
when
they
request
money,
because
they're,
not
City
agencies
or
nothing
like
that,
what
funds
do
that
come
from
or
yeah
am
I
asking.
A
For
Council
Members,
if
there
are
requests,
you
want
to
make
add
to
the
budget.
That
would
be
the
time
to
to
raise
those
those.
H
K
K
Sometimes
organizations
send
letters
directly
to
the
mayor.
Sometimes
organizations
bring
information
to
council,
sometimes
it's
kind
of
come
in
from
different
streams.
So
an
official
way
you
get
in
the
city's
funding
process
is
to
go
through
the
Human
Services
Coalition
and
have
it
work
and
have
it
work
that
way
these
other
ones
that
are
on
here,
not
a
consistent,
ongoing
process.
It
there's
nothing
wrong
with
that.
It's
always
the
mayor
and
council's
prerogative
to
decide
what
they
want
to
fund
and
what
they
don't
want
to
fund,
but
they
didn't
come
through
something
formal.
G
Thank
you
for
that
clarification.
Deb,
please
pardon
my
ignorance.
Does
the
Human
Services
Coalition
only
provide
sort
of
like
facilitating
of
budgetary
requests,
or
do
they
have
administrative
support
services
for
these
organizations
that
might
be
trying
to
seek?
G
You
know,
Financial
investment
from
the
city
like
because
I
know
in
the
past,
we've
helped
dealt
with
challenges
from
organizations
not
having
a
proper
paperwork
or
documentation.
Is
this
something
that
the
HSC
provides?
You
know
guidance
or
support
with?
Yes,.
K
That
this
is
actually
only
about
1
25th
of
what
this
organization
does.
They
are.
One
of
their
main
functions
is
capacity
building
for
organizations,
so
there
is
free
services
available
to
any
non-profit.
Sometimes
there
is
a
nominal
fee
associated
with
them.
They
have
helped
non-profits
with
bookkeeping.
They
have
helped
nonprofits
with
board
training.
They
have
helped
nonprofits
with
grant
writing.
They
have
helped
no
I
mean
XYZ.
What
does
does
a
non-profit
need
they're?
Also
a
centralized
organizer
for
training
and
Coalition
building.
If
non-profits
are
interested
and
like?
K
Maybe
they
can't
do
it
alone,
and
so
they
sit
in
the
center
and
they
see
oh
that
nonprofit's
doing
that,
and
so
is
that
one?
So,
let's
see
if
they'll
talk
to
each
other
and
then
they
have
a
whole
other
subset,
they
oversee
the
continual
care
which
we
all
have
been
talking
a
lot
about
with
some
other
topics,
and
then
they
also
manage
a
subset
of
very
specific
Healthcare
Navigator
pieces,
which
they
were
always
doing.
K
Health
Care
work,
but
then,
when
the
Affordable
Care
Act
came
into
being
and
we
needed
Navigators,
they
were
the
organization
in
our
County
that
stepped
up
to
do
that.
Healthcare
navigation,
work.
G
K
H
E
K
E
Again,
it's
funded
through
the
water
fund,
so
it's
a
separate
funding
stream
and
that
might
be
be
the
reason
different.
E
F
Thank
you
just
just
to
comment
I,
given
the
the
problems
we've
had
recently
in
in
funding
various
non-profits
I
think
there's
certain
there's
very
real
advantages
to
having
every
everybody
go
through
the
same
process
and
that's
going
through
the
Human
Services
Human
Resources
Center
that
way
every
it's
everybody's,
equal.
K
And
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
all
leaving
here
with
the
same
understanding.
The
timing
of
their
process
is
very
different
than
the
timing
of
our
budget
process,
so
that
process
happens
much
earlier
in
the
year,
so
these
allocations
can
be
designated
and
ready
once
the
county
and
the
city
starts
their
budget
processes.
So
it
couldn't
be
that
you
could
recommend
for
an
organization
today
to
go
through
the
process
to
get
funded.
K
So
we
would
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
connecting
organizations
to
that
much
earlier
in
the
year,
because
their
timing
has
to
happen
before
our
budget
process
happens.
So
it's
not
like.
If
you
wanted
an
organization,
they
don't
do
this
on
a
rolling
basis.
It's
a
very
specific
program
that
they
run
at
the
beginning
of
the
year.
So.
K
It
is
put
out
there
I'm,
not
sure,
exactly
how
broadly
it
is
put
out
there
and
it's
not
necessarily
something
that
the
city
has
advertised
either.
But
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
didn't
leave
this
meeting
with
the
impression
that
tomorrow,
you
could
tell
an
organization:
hey
go
to
the
Human
Services
Coalition.
B
K
K
E
I
think
just
to
build
up
of
George's
comment.
The
iura
also
goes
through
their
action
plan
right,
and
that
is
an
additional
process,
an
additional
stream
of
funds
specifically
to
provide
similar
services
and
fund
the
very
types
of
of
Social,
Services
and
programs
that
some
of
these
projects
here
could
have
fallen
under.
So
there
are
various
Avenues,
it's
not
just
this
one.
So
educating
your
constituents
and
in
all
of
these
resources,
I
think,
is
really
important.
A
All
right
would
someone
like
to
move
to
adjourn
Robert
second
Chris,
all
in
favor
of
adjourning.