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C
C
A
I'm
calling
the
meeting
to
order
at
4,
30
and
2.
A
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
welcome
the
new
acting
Chief
welcome.
Chief
we've
done
some
minor
introductions
of
one
another,
but
you
know
over
time.
You'll
hear
our
war
stories
about
what,
where
we've
been
in
life,
and
so
we'll
keep
you
in
the
loop
with
that
too
great.
A
First,
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
I.
Don't
have
the
day,
24th
2020.
C
A
That's
why
I
didn't
have
the
date?
Okay,
so
Motion
in
the
second
Rick
Merrell
any
discussion,
any
changes,
all
those
in
favor.
C
A
Michael
won't
be
attending
today,
he's
out
of
town
celebrating
his
wedding
anniversary.
I
won,
congratulations
which.
E
Hello,
Zach,
I'm,
Zach,
Nguyen
and
I
live
here
in
the
city
in
light
of
the
results
of
Democratic
Party
primary
locally
I
would
like
to
bring
to
the
board's
attention
the
likely
makeup
of
the
common
Council
come
next
year
to
make
up
almost
certain
to
be
hostile
to
the
police
department,
the
same
people
who
conducted
Roblox
in
front
of
me
at
the
police
department
in
2020
and
proceeding
control
of
the
apparatus
of
city
government
and
have
bowed
to
an
episode
of
those
policies.
This
reality
will
need
to
be
confronted.
E
Yeah
several
City
members
of
the
capital
openly
oppose
the
involvement
of
law
enforcement
in
the
city's
proposed
plan
to
address
on
Sanctuary
Kansas,
and
these
individuals
have
also
stated
their
intents
or
to
redirect
funding
in
the
end
of
the
police
department.
As
far
as
I
understand,
there
have
been
several
level
transfers
and
genetic
release
Department
despite
the
increased
bonus
city,
is
also
about
to
give
fifty
thousand
dollars
each
to
black
hands.
Universal
and
The
Unbroken
promise
initiative.
These
organizations
have
been
primarily
antagonists
of
the
police
department
since
the
their.
E
E
E
Mr
Jordan
Clements,
has
personally
engaged
in
Roblox
in
front
of
the
ethical
Police
Department
on
several
occasions,
tracking
drivers
and
expressing
joy
that
their
calls
for
help
in
9-1-1
when
unanswered
so
I,
think
it's
an
inappropriate
for
City
funds,
and
it
would
be
better
used
to
get
more
law
enforcement
into
the
community
to
protect
and
serve
everything.
Okay,.
A
Well,
thank
you
for
the
information
and
we're
going
to
have
the
table.
Your
request
at
this
particular
jungler.
We're
going
to
have
to
do
some
research
in
order
to
take
any
kind
of
position.
I'll
be
frank.
I
can't
imagine
how
we
can
take
a
position
on
an
application,
that's
pending
before
some
other
body,
but
we'll
explore
it,
and
probably
next
month,
we'll
decide
what
we're
going
to
do
about
it.
But
we've
heard
what
you've
had
we've
heard,
what
you've
said
and
we've
heard
what
you've
asked
us
to
do
thanks.
Thank
you.
F
C
A
G
That's
okay,
I
will
say
a
couple
things:
one:
the
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
non
-profit
organizations.
That
I
mean
we
just
mentioned.
G
The
search
for
the
permanent
police
chief
has
begun.
I
haven't
heard
a
lot
about
how
far
we've
gotten
yet
but
I'm
gonna
ask
at
the
meeting
at
the
of
a
CA
meeting
after
this
meeting.
G
As
many
of
you
know,
there
was
a
Community
Forum
at
South
Side
last
week.
A
number
of
you
were
there,
it
went
I'd
say
quite
well.
You.
A
G
There
was
a
panel
of
five,
maybe
five
individual
and
three
of
them
were
police
officers.
One
was
Richard
and
one
was
Reverend.
C
G
G
Trauma
for
lack
of
a
better
word.
There
is
probably
a
better
word
and
the
answer
was
various
trends
which
isn't
all
well
and
good.
G
Immediate
way,
so
I
thought
we
missed
an
opportunity
to
mention
that,
but
overall
I
thought
it
was
a
really
good
forum
and
I
really
want
to
thank
all
the
leaders
of
Southside
for
cooperating
with
PBA
and.
H
G
That's
a
partnership
that
we
really
need
to
encourage
and
and
make
strong
again
a
number
of
people.
There
talked
about
how
when
they
were
kids,
they
knew
the
names
of
the
officers
who
walked
the
beat
in
their
neighborhood
and
obviously
we're
not
doing
that
now,
because,
primarily
because
of
our
staffing
problems
are
extremely
understaffed,
IBD,
but
I
think
that's
that's
causing
one
of
our
goals
is
to
have
officers,
know
the
people
in
the
community
by
name
and
people
in
community,
know
the
officers
by
name.
G
So
that's
certainly
a
goal
I
had
and
I
know,
Ted
and
about
everybody.
I
know
on
IMDb
has
that
same
goal.
G
I
would
like
to
voice
my
concern
about
the
jungle,
particularly
the
area
of
the
Jungle.
This
currently
referred
to
as
jumbo
number
one,
which
is
the
area
behind
the
Warehouse
carpet
and
Agway
so
close
into
the
West
End.
A
Yeah,
what
color
code
is
that
one
excellent
none,
no
camping!
It's.
A
G
What's
confusing
about
it
is
the
area
that's
west,
of
an
arm
of
water
that
goes
towards
Wegmans,
has
been
fenced
and
is
currently
unoccupied
and
that
that
is
part
of
the
Red
Zone?
Okay,
what
I
didn't
realize
until
recently
is
on
the
east
side
of
that
strip
of
water,
there's
still
some
city
property
and
then
east
of
that
is
railroad
property
and
we
can't
make
railroad
property
Renaissance,
because
it's
not
our
property.
G
However,
there
that
strip
of
city,
property
and
railroad
property
is
there's
a
lot
of
encampments
there
and
that's
where
some
of
the
recent
most
recent
stabbing
occurred.
A
person
and
his
dog
were
slashed.
G
There's
numerous
caches
and
bicycles.
There
there's
burned
out
campsites,
probably
half
a
dozen
it's
I
was
there
on
Sunday.
G
It's
got
a
whole
different
vibe
than
the
rest
of
the
Jungle.
In
my
opinion,
it's
just
scary
place
and
the
fact
that
some
of
my
colleagues
on
Council
are
reluctance
to
enforce
is
proposed
changes
of
where
you
can
and
cannot
camp.
G
A
G
I'm
saying
there's
a
lot
of
crime
in
that
area.
People
are
getting
hurt,
yeah,
there's
death
threats
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
or
as
far
as
I've
heard,
there's
drug
activity,
that's
ramping
up
and
becoming
much
more
dangerous
and.
G
Surrounding
Community
the
people
who
live
there
and
people
who
try
to
do
business
there
are
Under
Siege
businesses
are
leaving
the
West
End.
Because
of
this,
the
Cancer
Resource
Center
just
abandoned
the
house
that
they
own
free
and
clear,
because
people
are
afraid
to
go
there.
So
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is-
and
this
is
not
on
ipds
as
much
as
it
is
on
myself
and
other
members
of
common
Council.
We
have
we
have
to
address
this,
and
if
we
continue
to
ignore
it,
we're
cowards.
A
So
if
I
am
camping
in
my
backyard
and
I
decide
I'm
going
to
have
a
meth
lab,
you
can
bet
your
Royal
butt
that
you
and
your
Club
are
going
to
be
over
having
the
cops
over
to
my
house
and
having
me
arrested
so
for
the
city
to
take
a
position
that
on
their
property
it's
the
Wild
Wild
West
is
not
a
sane
policy.
That's.
G
G
I
G
The
proposed
thinking
and
I
agree
with
this
is
that
there
has
to
be
cooperation
with
the
Outreach
workers
who
work
in
the
jungle
and
and
that's
the
first
well,
that's
how
people
know
where
they
can
and
can't
camp,
and
that's
already,
it's
already
taken
place
in
that
one
area
between
Brinley
and
Cecil,
B
Malone.
G
G
Urging
people
to
move
and
helping
them
move,
as
opposed
to
forcing
in
the
lead
and
foreign.
J
G
Good
question
I
mean,
and
yes,
there
is
okay,
if,
if
we
make
it
happen,
it's
been
talked
about
for
months
and
that
is
to
establish
an
area
that
has
running
water
with
hot
showers
and
and
real
toilets.
G
G
G
The
area
behind
Agway
is
pretty
Compact
and
but
again.
G
A
A
H
A
Well,
I
mean
yeah
I
think
we
can
open
it
up.
I
mean
turn
around
in
the
agenda.
We
are
talking
about
the
the
town
hall,
which
I
find
it
kind
of
links
in
with
this
situation
that
we
have
with
the
jungle.
You
know
it's
reimagining.
How
Ithaca
is
gonna
live
with
new
Public
Safety
kind
of
guideposts.
If
you
will
so
go
ahead,
okay,.
H
No
I
just
wanted
to
I
mean
there's
more
discussion
needed:
okay,
I
guess
you
know.
First
of
all,
George
your
comments
about
you
know
the
town
hall
and
what
Reverend
Wright
said.
It's
alarming,
It's,
upsetting
and
I
think
that
I'll
clarify
with
him,
but
the
distinction
between
the
concerned
about
being
treated
differently,
based
on
what
opposes
or
is
being
treated
like
currently
or
has
been.
H
Those
are
three
and
either
way
it's
a
concern,
but
I
think
that
that
I'll
make
I'll,
call
him
and
make
sure
I
understand,
because
I
think
I
need
to
distinguish
between
those
three,
the
concerns
or
possibly
being
basically,
as
as
far
as
the
lack
of
diversity
or
hiring
you
spoke
about.
You
know
we.
This
is
something
like
they
talk
about,
but
we
can.
Ipd
cannot
make
people
want
any
cops.
This
is
a
societal
problem
and
currently
it's
a
difficult
problem.
H
So
we
need
help
from
the
community
to
make
our
young
people
of
the
target
aim,
age
or
even
younger
in
school.
Think
that
leasing
is
a
desirable
and
profession
again
and
that
is
incumbent
on
everybody
here
this
board
with
the
County
Council
and
every
resident
and
everyone
that
lives
here.
So
really
what
I'm
asking
for
is
help
you
know.
I
can't
make
someone
to
be
about.
I
can
travel
about
what
you
know.
The
job
is
like
I
can
try
and
help
them
through
the
process
and
give
advice,
but
you
know
we
really
need
help.
H
H
If
you
want
recruiting
posters
or
buyers
like
that,
let
me
know
you
know
we're
currently
recruiting
right
now
for
our
civil
service,
exam
deadlines,
probably
support
so
I'd
love
to
have
when
I
think
that's
three
or
four
people
on
the
list
instead
of
80
or
50
or
30
in
office.
H
If
anyone
has
a
stock
put
them
on,
let
me
know,
and
then
lastly,
I
the
jungle
is
a
huge
problem.
You're
right
and
I
would
just
I'm
when
I
leave
here
between
my
next
meeting
I'm
going
to
send
out
a
video
release
about
you
know
another
serious
crime,
it's
been
it
has
been
being
investigated.
H
I,
don't
know
if
there's
an
interest
there.
Yes,.
B
B
E
H
H
A
H
For
the
jump
of
the
problem
and
I
would
just
say
that
you
know
there's
a
difference
between
people
that
live
down
there
and
are
law-abiding
or
maybe
committing
like
Petty
crimes.
You
know,
theft
or
trespassing,
or
you
know,
vandalism
all
stuff.
That's
not
okay,
but
certainly
not
like
a
top
of
our
list
and
I
would
say
both
of
those
groups
are
being
victimized
by
people
that
are
committing
serious
crime
stabbing.
H
You
know
violent
crimes,
and
you
know
it's
intermixed
and
I.
Think
people
often
conflate
addiction
and
like
like
actual
narcotic
trafficking.
Human
trafficking,
like
a
lot
of
things,
go
hand
in
hand
too.
So
not
that
this
board
really
governs
that
right.
The
Jumbo's,
a
serious
problem
with
people
down
there
are
being
the
people
that
I
think
the
city's
worried
about
being
mistreated
by
the
cops
are
being
victimized
by
criminals.
B
G
And
the
vast
majority
of
homeless
people
go
to
motel
in
the
cold
weather,
so
that
area
was
empty
last
winter
and
with
encouragements
from
accounting
and
we're
threatening
to
find
the
city.
Because
of
the
environmental
hazards
that
were
there,
we
cleaned
it
up.
Bbw
cleaned
it
up
over
several
days
and
tens
of
thousand
dollars
worth
of
man
hours
and
still
not
possible
to
clean,
but
did
a
good
job
of
cleaning
it
up.
And
then
the
county
agreed
to
pay
the
Tipping
fee
for
all
that
junk
as
as
their
way
of
contributing.
G
But
they
also
said
that
if
it
got
all
trashed
again,
then
we're
gonna
haters
pay
the
second
time,
and
so
the
city
BPW
put
up
that
fencing
and
there's
been
a
10
or
two
in
there
once
in
a
while,
but
basically
nobody's
living
there,
and
that
that's
how
it
came
to
be.
It
wasn't
cleared
by
anyone
of
people
other
than
cold
weather.
F
Thanks
my
comments
were
in
addition
to
whatever
the
crime
had
going
on
down
there.
There
were
two
major
fires:
Warehouse
was
reported
as
being
potentially
life-threatening
and
having
been
in
that
area
with
the
police
officers,
that's
a
very,
very
inaccessible
area
for
the
fire
police
to
get
in.
If
they
heard
the
problem,
you
have
to
I
think
the
fastest
way
is
walk
across
the
railroad
tracks
and
Agway
and
try
to
get
in
that
way.
G
I
agree
there
is
I
was
I
had
never
really
explored
it
until
last.
Sunday
and
I
walked
all
through
it
and
there
weren't
a
lot
of
people
there
during
the
day
there's
one
person
I
talked
to,
but
in
between
Agway
and
carpool
Warehouse.
There
is
one
little
like
driveway
type,
Crossing
and
tracks
from
where
McGuire's
as
one
of
their
Lots
of
used
cars
and
and
the
other
side,
so
I
think
that's
probably
how
an
emergency
vehicle
could
get
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
that
area.
G
But
you're
right,
it's
just
trails
and
it's
pretty
unacceptable.
G
J
G
H
Out
to
the
city
and
ipd
recently,
essentially,
I
think
they,
you
know,
they're
a
victim
of
the
stuff
as
much
as
anyone
else
within
you
know.
A
lot
of
tools
and
equipment
is
very
expensive,
gets
stolen
damage,
penalized
or
trained.
You
know.
We've
had
concerns
about
people
tracking
the
track
and
trains
coming
through,
which
is
really
scary,
because
I
don't
speak
to
them,
but
I,
don't
I
think
that
they
would
go
along
with
the
city,
but
they
don't
also
want
to
be
this
Corporation
coming
in
here
and
causing
a
problem
about
support.
H
C
H
H
Not
a
whole
lot,
so
apparently
we
have
one
officer
at
field:
training,
His
official,
like
bad
defending
ceremony,
was
today
recently.
H
So
he
is
going
to
undergo
he's
in
field
train
now,
which
is
for
us
it's
600
hours,
but
we're
pretty
intensive
and
comprehensive
training
program.
Most
of
that
is
one-on-one
experienced
officer
was
trained.
He
was
actually
trained
to
be
a
field,
training
officer
and.
H
In
the
police
academy
and
that
Academy
would
start
until
late
March,
so
we're
looking
at
like
mid
and
fall
before
he
starts
600
hours.
So
I
probably
won't,
if
all
goes
well
with
and
not
be
available
to
us
over
there
early
next
year
and
then
I
mentioned
earlier.
But
we
are
currently
in
a
big
recruiting
bush.
H
Our
deadline,
like
I
said,
is
August
4th
and
I'm
asking
everybody
or
anybody
that
if
you
think
you
might
know
someone
that
might
be
interested
or
might
not,
let
them
know
about
our
past
and
they
could
always
say
no
later,
but
certainly
we're
trying
to
get
anyone
that
might
be
interested
in
the
job
to
sign
up
and
pick
tests
and
we've
hired
a
lot
of
people
that
went
to
school
and
teachers
or
Engineers
or
a
court
reviewing
great
cops.
H
So
it's
not
just
that
you
have
to
go
to
school
or
want
to
be
account
from
when
you're
a
little
kid
when
people
figure
it
out
in
their
clients
and
or
even
30s,
and
then
yeah
I
attended,
the
town
hall.
Also
I
thought
it
was
I
thought
it
was
good
with
the
discussion
I'd
like
to
see
a
little
bit
more
of
that
I
wish
honestly
I
wish.
There
was
more
people
there
from
the
community
to
ask
more
questions
and
things
like
that,
and
maybe
that's
something
that
I
can
take
on.
H
From
my
perspective,
I
know
the
the
union
with
AFL
CIO
and
South
Side
kind
of
put
that
on,
but
maybe
on
a
smaller
scale
or
different.
You
know
different
variation
of
that
I
know
years
ago,
sharing
a
group
of
people
were
involved
in
like
monthly
or
regular
movies.
Yeah
with
the
administration,
IBD
and
I
I
was
a
part
of
those
meetings
at
times
and
even
stuff
like
that,
with
you
know,
just
a
smaller
group
you
hear
from
different
sectors
or
different
voices
in
the
community
was
think
of
value.
C
So
and
a
way
to
get
attendance
up
is
I
think
all
we
did
was
have
y'all
flyers
and
we
just
wired
all
through
South
Side
north
side,
because
a
lot
of
people
don't
see
internet
or
don't
read,
hi
everybody,
so
yeah
I'd
be
glad
and
I've
been
still
I
have
on
a
weekend.
I
do
have
more
questions,
but
you
know:
there's
people
around.
J
H
A
Okay,
when
this
recruiting
season
is
done.
D
A
We
have
some
sort
of
data
back
as
to
how
valuable
the
contract
was,
because
we've
had
one
presentation
from
him
in
the
past
and
it
seemed
like
it
had
high
value
and
I'd
like
to
see.
If
there's,
if
you
know
how
they're
how
it
worked
out
this
time,
because
I
have
seen
different
kinds
of
things
on
Facebook,
that
I
think
are
getting
people
talking.
Some
of
us
not
so
good,
but
some
of
it's
real
positive.
A
H
I
C
B
H
Yeah,
probably
the
exam
will
be
given
in
September
we'll
take
this
as
the
exam
date
is
number
seven,
but
we.
H
We
will
know
how
many
people
sit
here
locally
for
the
exam,
because
HR
can
tell
us
how
many
seasons,
but
we
won't
know
how
many
people
cross
files.
So
if
you
live
in
Rochester
or
you
live
in
Buffalo,
you
know
you
could
be
also
sending
a
test
exam
scores
here.
So
we
won't
have
that
data
back
until
the
state
condemned
us
the
results
and
because
of
the
Scantron
we
live
in
New
York
state.
It
takes
some
like
many
many
months.
H
Last
year
we
didn't
get
that
back
to
like
mid
December
sure.
So
probably
we
should
be
looking
at
like
January
February.
C
G
C
B
Just
spoke
briefly
with
Shirley
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
about
perhaps
developing
an
online
process
for
our
Complaint
Form,
rather
than
simply
a
PDF
that
folks
have
to
print
off
and
or
scan
and
or
mail
or
bring
in
in
person
with
their
signature,
I'm
going
to
speak
with
Alan,
who
does
all
of
our
permitting
systems
and
things
like
applying
for
board
positions
with
laser
patient
opengub,
which
are
just
workflow
systems
that
we
can
handle
internally
and
I'm
going
to
see.
B
If
we
can
make
a
form
at
which
point,
then
we
go
through
the
application
together
and
or
not
the
application,
the
the
Forum
together
and
talk
about
what
we
want
to
keep
change
altered
highlight
and
then
we
can
get
something
more
streamlined
electronically.
It's.
A
C
A
Thanks
we've
had
7.1,
which
is
the
update
on
electronic
documents,
sharing.
D
D
A
Okay,
so
number
eight,
no
seven
two
is
the
policy.
I
briefly
gave
you
an
introduction.
Several
months
ago
we
talked
about
that.
We
were
running
into
officers
that
had
no
knowledge
that
the
community
police
board
was
existed
and
or
what
we
did
so
Richard
volunteered
to
draft
something
up
about
what
we
would
like
to
present
on
you
or
the
union,
and
whichever
is
appropriate,
and
he
has
the
draft
here-
that
I
think
you've
mailed
out
to
ever
all
folks
I.
A
A
C
A
Where
we
want
this
to
be,
it
would
be
with
him,
but
we
would
retain
a
copy
so
that,
if
you're
out
and
about
when
you're
doing
an
investigation,
you
could
pull
this
up
okay
and
give
it
to
the
officer
and
say
this
is
this:
is
the
lowdown
of
what
we're
doing?
Okay?
You
know
it's
just
giving
people
more
information.
A
A
I
I
Yeah
I
guess
yeah,
it
was
me,
is
also
logical,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
much
you're
thinking
about
let.
I
Yeah
both
the
new
higher
than
the
folks.
My
concern
is
more
for
the
folks
that
have
been
their
present
time,
that
don't
that
don't
know
who
do
rely
on
the
same
book
as
opposed
to
the
new
hives
that
are
coming
in,
who
will
just
will
be
part
of
nature.
You
know
in
the
future
for
them
and
all
are
you
covering
both
ends,
as
opposed
to
trying
to
cover
one
half
or.
A
H
It'll,
probably
be
one
of
our
civilian
staff
that
puts
the
paperwork
together,
but
let
me
review
this
and
then
I'll
review
our
policy
that
we're
we're
currently
undergoing
like
a
lot
of
show.
Interviews.
I,
just
don't
want
this,
like
I,
want
to
see
what
the
policy
currently
says
and
then
I
want
to
make
sure
that
this
isn't
just
going
to
be
as
like.
H
I
H
H
Well,
there's
like
this
is
confusing,
but
we
have
like.
We
have
like
sop
standard
operating
procedures.
We
have
policy
law
and
then
we
have
like
the
part
of
rules
and
regulations.
I
mean
this
is
more
of
like
an
expectation
for
the
Department
in
a
city
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
would
like
kind
of
fit
without
needing
a
lot
of
like
honestly
right
now
we
have
a
lot
of
policies.
We're
trying
to
get
accredited.
H
The
state
has
said
that
every
police
department
has
to
be
certified
by
the
end
of
this
year.
If
you're
not
certified,
they
don't
let
you
hire.
H
So
that's
like
very
that's
something
we're
on
top
of,
but
there
are
certain
policies
we
have
to
have
in
place
and
on
file.
Sure
like
that
right
now
is
like
of
the
utmost
importance
and
I.
Don't
I,
guess
I'm
saying
it
I
don't
want
to
go
back
and
redo
other
policies.
What
we
have
anything
too
I
want
to
make
sure
we
have
policies
in
place
to
be
certified
at
a
minimum
big
and
higher.
Before
we
go
back
to
other
policies,.
D
D
This
is
why
you're
receiving
this-
and
these
are
the
the
concrete
steps,
the
repeatable
steps
that
you
would
expect
an
officer
to
make
in
response
to
to
our
requests
like
that
seems
like
the
more
likely
place
to
have
something
in
addition
to
onboarding
documentation.
If
it
were
to
exists
somewhere,
yeah.
H
A
The
only
one
that's
forced
to
cooperate
with
us
is
you
I,
don't
see
it
that
way,
they
just
changed
that
we
they
wanted
subpoena
power
and
all
that
other
Jazz
and
through
negotiation
with
George
in
the
subcommittee,
it's
been
reduced
to
the
chief
cooperates
with
us,
and
then
you
have
responsibility
for
your
folks
and
yeah.
We,
we
have
not
had
a
problem.
Well,.
H
C
H
I'm
in
that
vein,
I,
also
not
that
we,
you
know,
necessarily
need
the
union,
but,
like
typically
I,
think
what
happens
is
like
someone
from
the
union
will
sit
down
with
them
and
say,
like
you
know
here,
are
the
options
with
Healthcare.
Here
are
the
options
for
retirement
community?
You
know
if
you
wanted
to
work
out,
Simply
sort
of
reunion
kind
of
explain
that
the
new
people
it's
just
like
it's
all.
It
might
be
beneficial
just
to
have
it
from
that
perspective,
so
that
it's
not
seen
as
a
adversary
thing
like
episodic
right
on.
D
H
F
Officers
to
participate
as
a
way
of
improving
policing
the
union
might
also
be
a
way
to
disseminate
this
if
they
would
formally
encourage
officers
to
participate
as
a
way
of
improving
that
pleasing,
because
really
that's
what
this
this
is
about,
and
it's
really
what
our
board
is
about.
We'd
like
to
improve
policing
and,
we
might
say,
improve
policing,
improved
dialogue,
improve
understanding.
H
So
yeah
I
I
agree
that
that
was
my
understanding,
so
I'll
review
this
and
I'll
kind
of
program
right
now
our
policies
are
like
a
priority
and
then
we
are
going
to
probably
be
re
doing
our
slts,
also
in
there's
a
lot
of
change,
even
the
last
10
years,
five
years,
two
years.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
catch
up
to
do
in
that
regard,
but
yeah
I'll
definitely
argue
this
and
see
where
the
best
place
or
place
is
to
present
this.
I
President
States
probably
multiple
places,
because
to
me
another
place
would
be
where
was
equivalent
to
that
of
a
glossary
or
list
of
contact
reference
information,
because
at
the
basic
level,
it's
simply
to
be
informed
the
whole
standard
of
an
operating
procedure.
There
are
obviously
things
that
are
complemented
that
come
with
things
with
that
nature,
but
at
the
very
least,
it's
more
of
like
a
if
I
need
to
know
where
hospital
is.
I
H
That's
in,
like
you
know,
early
on
in
the
field
training
where
it's
like
decentral
in
this
city
hall,
and
this
is
where
Banks
is
so.
You
know
we
go
through
like
initially
we
go
through
some
accidentally
read
certain
documents
and
things
like
that.
You
know
in
the
past
few
days,
so
this
should
be
right
in
there.
So.
D
A
And
whatever
we
do
is
the
the
citizen
has
the
right
to
complain
directly
to
you
and
they
also
have
a
vehicle
complaint
for
recommending
to
us.
So
there
are
two
Avenues,
so
the
officers
need
to
know
that
there
are
multiple
avenues
for
a
citizen.
That's
wanted
to
discuss
something
that
are
available
to
us
and
both
can
be
available.
I
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
this
is
a
space
where
they
can
share.
Compliments
like
when
the
whole
standard
procedures
didn't
come
up.
People
always
think
it's
bad
things
like
if,
if
an
officer
feels
uncomfortable,
you
know
when
you
receive
a
good
time,
you're
trying
to
be
modern,
all
right
go
ahead
and
have
these
folks
share
a
compliment?
I,
don't
think
it
always
has
to
be
this
kind
of
way.
H
H
You
know
George
mentioned
like
the
insurance,
you
don't
want
to
get
an
officer,
apply
a
tourniquette
to
that
person
and
likely
possibly
save
their
life
and
I.
Don't
want
to
divulge
like
the
medical
stuff,
but
it
was
a
pretty
serious
woman,
so
yeah
stuff,
like
that
being
submitted.
B
F
Did
you
notice
this
yellow
highlight
here
the
mayor
at
some
point
we're
going
to
have
to
have
a
discussion
about
what
our
Charters
is?
Our
Charter
says
that
we
do
send
our
completed
reports,
we'll
talk
about
to
the
mayor
and
to
the
police
chief
we're
going
to
have
a
new
foreign
government
I.
Don't
think
we
necessarily
have
to
change
our
chart
or
ask
what
we
can't
but
ask
for
a
payment.
F
Certainly,
we
may
want
to
consider
sending
the
copies
of
our
report
to
the
new
city
manager
to
go
there
they're
aware
of
what.
F
F
A
Can't
if
that
were
true
every
time
that
somebody
came
to
us,
we
couldn't
go
within
our
discretion,
just
hand
them.
A
copy
of
the
report
has
nothing
to
do
with
them.
We
can't
enter
into
that.
It's.
The
reasons
come
to
us
is
because
the
information
is
held
confidential.
They
have
an
opportunity
to
air
whatever
they
want
with
a
city
center.
F
As
a
regular
folks,
surely
I'm
not
talking
about
just
anybody
I'm
talking
about,
would
we
give
that
at
our
discretion
to
the
new
city,
manager
and
or
the
chief
of
staff
and
I
think
we
ought
to
consider?
It
should
I
consider
to
think
about
it,
because
it's
not
a
ridiculous
idea
that
Chief
of
Staff
or
the
city
manager
who
copied
in
on
what
we.
I
Do
so,
while
driving
this
most
of
the
stuff,
if
not
really
I
only
made
a
couple
tweaks,
but
most
of
this
stuff
is
literally
got
more
pasted
from
the
charter.
That's
both
on
online
as
far
as
the
city
website,
but
also
the
actual
Charter
itself,
and
the
reason
why
I
put
the
mayor
is
the
question
is
because
the
actual
Charter
doesn't
list
the
mayor
in
it.
I
So
for
me
it
was
just
like
well
I
I,
always
assumed.
That
was
a
particular
case,
which
is
so
for
me.
It
was
double
checking
as
far
as
that
particular
piece,
the
yeah
everything
else.
There
might
be
a
couple
tweaks
here
and
there,
but
really
most
of
this
stuff
is
straight
up.
I
That's
why
I
looked
at
it
more
like
a
glossary
thing,
because
it's
like
I'm
literally
not
this
stuff
is
public
information.
It's
on
the
city,
where
it's
like
it's
just
making
your
life
easier
and
putting
in
a
manual.
It
is
handheld
to
you.
But
as
far
as
the
mayor,
that's
the
part.
I
needed
clarification
on
is
because
the
neither
the
website
nor
the
charter
document,
because
they're
slightly
different,
but
one
is
a
little
bit
more
of
a
passive
language.
The
other
ones
will
be
more
like
legal
link,
you
know
the
conversation.
F
C
F
We
already
well
right
now.
We
we
do
want
the
officers
to
get
a
copy
of
our
report.
Any
officers
that's
named
in
the
report.
We
would
like
them
to
get
a
copy
right
now.
The
procedure
is
given
to
the
Chief
and
request
if
the
chief
give
it
to
the
officer
and
I
believe
we
might
want
to
decide.
Do
we
send
this
directly
to
the
office.
D
H
C
A
C
A
D
I
C
C
C
B
A
A
A
C
I
Right,
the
I
guess
before
we
go
to
the
next
session
or
the
next
appointment
they're
distributed
a
couple
things
I
wanted
to
highlight
as
far
as
like
the
thing
about
when
we're
talking
about
recruiting,
I
think
the
meeting
that
they
had
having
more
of
them
in
a
way,
but
there's
a
difference
in
the
unique
sense
that
it
seemed
like
more
officers
were
more
comfortable
in
that
environment
a
lot
of
way,
maybe
because
of
the
human
representation
or,
however,
that
part
is
so
for
me,
those
meanings
are
important,
but
I
think
they
got
to
happen
a
little
bit
more
often
into
a
point
where,
like
having
it
scheduled
already,
would
be
very
helpful.
I
The
my
concern,
though,
is
that
when
it
comes
to
hiring
more
black
officers,
it's
not
just
going
to
make
the
whole
situation
go
away,
and
so
for
me-
and
there
isn't
going
to
be
enough
time
where
there's
going
to
be
enough
staff
members
to
ever
catch
up
so
I
think
finding
ways
or
to
compensate
or
to
deal
with
the
situation
as
best.
I
We
can
it's
going
to
be
helpful
because,
ultimately
having
the
difficulty
of
recruitment
or
not
having
officers
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
not
it's
not
going
to
make
the
situation
go
away
and
so
finding
ways
to
kind
of
mitigate
those
things
whether
it
is
having
those
those
meetings
but
including
those
pieces
more
frequently
because
I
think,
if
you
I'm
not
sure
if
you
saw
the
other
effects.
But
if
you
saw
whether
it's
in
the
newspapers
or
other
people,
they
left
a
meeting
with
a
better
understanding
of
like
oh
okay,
the
opposite
thing.
I
There
is
this
bigger
concern
about
Staffing
and
I
left
a
meeting
with
more
people
talking
about
that
than
I've
heard
of
before,
and
so
for
me,
it
was
a
good
way
to
kind
of.
It
often
feels
like
these
discussions
can
be
one-sided
and
I
like
the
way
we
still
need
more
Community
I
wish.
We
had
more
time
to
have
a
way
back
and
forth
and
have
more
Community
questions
and
things
of
that
nature,
but
I
do
think
that
there
has
to
be
a
recognition
of
that
balance
where
officers
feel
good
or
safe.
C
H
You
know
I,
don't
disagree.
What
you're
saying-
and
you
know
I
think
this
has
been
it's
not
that
nauseating,
but,
like
our
staffing,
is
so
critical
right
now
like
we
are
trying
to
just
respond
to
emergencies,
let
alone
you
know,
having
more
Staffing
will
allow
us
to
have.
You
know
a
chance
to
have
officers
like
when
I
first
started
here
we
would
have
all
sort
of
detail
down
to
the
summer
basketball,
leagues
and
you
know
able
to
you
know
we
had
an
officer
on
the
comments
all
the
time
walking.
H
There
was
a
day
when
there
was
like
officer
walking
around
24
7..
You
know
all
these
things
that
have
kind
of
through
attrition
of
officers
and
Staffing,
where
we
aren't
able
to
do
anymore,
and
so,
when
we
can
have
at
least
you
know,
a
decent
competitive
officers
working
than
others
can
be
have
the
time
to
get
the
training.
It
might
be
beneficial
to
do
more.
Community
engagement
to
to
have
discussion
with
people
that
you
know
just
blend,
hear
someone
else's
perspective
and
they
can
hear
the
office
perspective.
H
H
I
H
We're
not,
we
are
still
trying.
You
know
to
do
that,
to
do
other
community
outreach
events,
but
we're
not
able
to
do
those
on
the
level
of
maybe
we
didn't
want
to
live
like
in
a
perfect
scenario.
We
would
have
people
full
time
that
just
did
that-
or
at
least
you
know
kind
of
every
month,
or
maybe
every
couple
weeks
basis
right
now.
It's
probably
beginning
here.
F
And
one
of
the
things
that
the
community
performed
there
wasn't
mentioned
concerning
Staffing
was
that
this
critical
Staffing
level
is
a
result
of
choices
made
over
City
administrations
going
back,
probably
a
dozen
years.
But
this
is
not
something
that
just
happened
because
officer
is
retired.
This
is
something
that
Mayors
and
common
Council
have
done,
and
even
this
Administration
under
mayor
Lewis
I'm
attempting
to
lower
the
cap.
F
F
A
A
F
G
As
I
understand,
what
happened
was
mayor
Lewis,
lower
number
of
officers
to.
J
C
E
G
But
the
compromise
that
was
reached
was
including
we
had
the
same
number
of
openings
for
ipds,
but
so
if,
if
we
could
fill
15
positions
over
the
course
of
the
summer,
we
would
do
that
and
and
use
extra
money.
But
if
we
couldn't
then
the
balance
of
officers
and
what
they
would
be
retained,
the
positions
would
be
retained,
but
they
couldn't
be
filled
until
I
think
we
ended
up
with
November
or
December.
D
G
A
J
H
H
Relevant
to
talk
about
when
I
transfer
here
in
you
know
over
a
decade
ago,
our
organization
structure
is
for
74.
right,
we're
talking
about
60s
if
you'd
like
to
do
we're
supposed
to
be
74
and
then,
quite
frankly,
if
we
want
officer
doing
the
things
the
city
wants
us
to
be
doing
and
not
have
to
work,
you
know
hundreds
of
hours
overtime
a
year.
We
should
be
probably
adding
a
dozen
or
two
to
the
7400,
but
I
mean
these
are
all
big
things.
H
You
know
so
I
I
appreciate
your
point
in
the
80s
and
think
about
what
buildings
and
what
density
wasn't
here
to
see.
Yes,
right,
all
these
buildings,
all
these
things
that
require
more
and
more
resources
and
we've
had
less
and
less
we've
had
I,
don't
know
that
it's
uncommon
across
other
City
departments
either,
but
required.
D
H
H
And
you
know
a
very
senior
officer
at
the
time
I
was
like
don't
this
is
going
to
take
10
days.
It's
your
problem,
but
they're,
probably
layoffs
of
that
yeah.
That
started
you
know
and
from
there
we
have.
You
know,
kind
of
trickled
down.
We
kind
of
had
a
little
correction
and
do
it
like
if
you
zoom
out
on
that
graph.
It's
just
been
like
this
yeah
to
include
you
know
things
yeah,
we've
had
people
walk
away
from
the
job
and
completely
leave
our
agency
to
go
other
agencies.
H
A
All
right,
the
one
we
have
two
things
left:
one
is
I,
sent
everybody
a
link
to
a
National
Association
of
civil
oversight
of
law
enforcement.
It's
an
association,
a
National
Association.
A
I
I
think
it's
useful
I
didn't
realize
they
had
a
whole
console
for
it
and
I
think
about
what
is
it
called
subpoenas
or
all
these
all
these
different
concerns,
there's
just
I,
think
sometimes
it's
just
good
to
kind
of
see
what
other
people
are
doing
or
how
they're
thinking.
I
So
it
was
good,
so
I
didn't
realize
the
whole
thing
existed.
So
I
thought
it
was
pretty
normal.
A
Yeah
I
did
get
a
response
from
Michael
who
said
he's
going.
We
should
have
the
community
police
board,
pay
the
500
so
that
we
can
get
more
fine-tuned
kind
of
direct
information.
But
I
didn't
look
at
that
part.
Yet
so,
let's
put
it
on
for
next
month
that
we'll
we'll
take
a
look
at
things
and
because
I
don't
know
that
the
money
is
there.
Now,
probably
it's
there
in
January
I,
don't
know:
okay,
okay,
so
I
need
a
motion
in
the
second
to
go
into
executive
session.