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B
Guidance
then
we
have
extension
letter
for
the
only
Library,
the
Arts
Club
historic
district,
1161
Pro
Plaza,
always
because
the
price
was
given
an
opportunity
at
the
hearing
can
be
heard
in
person
over
by
Asians
inspector's
applications.
Are
you
interested
in
reviewing
application
materials
prior
to
the
meeting
called
Ryan
mcbracken
at
274-6550.
C
G
G
Okay,
can
you
guys
see
my
screen?
Okay,.
G
So
this
is
200
Highland,
it's
an
existing
multi-family
building,
it's
actually
individual
rooms,
rented
right
now,
with
a
shared
common
space.
We
have
a
pretty
significant
existing
lot.
You
know
if
this
was
a
single
multi-family
building.
You
know
we
have
quite
a
bit
of
buildable
area
we're
allowed
to
build
within,
but
obviously
in
some
initial
discussions
with
Brian,
you
know
it
was
we
felt
like
it
would
be
a
challenging
route
to
to
build
an
addition
onto
this
building.
G
That
sort
of
you
know
let
the
building
sort
of
stand
on
its
own
and
retain
sort.
It's
it's
historic
standing
and
we,
you
know,
because
of
a
weird
blip
in
the
zoning
in
this
region.
G
You
know,
even
though
we
have
room
for
a
larger
multi-family
building,
we
don't
have
enough
room
for
two
separate
multi-family
buildings,
so
we
sort
of
coordinated
with
Megan
and
Rob
fell
the
wall
to
come
up
with
the
strategy
of
building
a
connected
basement.
G
That
would
connect
these
two
buildings,
but
you
know
a
first
second
and
third
story
that
was
completely
independent
of
the
existing
building
to
allow
them
to
read
as
two
separate
buildings
from
the
street
front.
But
in
fact
be
a
single
fire
area
and
be
you
know
as
far
as
zoning
is
concerned,
and
the
building
department
be
a
single
building,
so
the
existing
building
is
going
to
be
renovated
on
the
interior
to
be
converted
into
three
separate
apartments,
and
then
we've
are
proposing
another
three
unit.
G
Building
on
the
other
side
of
the
site,
we've
picked
a
a
t-shaped
massing
to
help
break
down
the
scale
of
the
individual
sections
of
the
building
and
really
try
to
tie
in
the
the
massing
of
the
peak
with
the
existing
Peak
and
then
have
a
cross
Gable,
that's
larger,
but
referential
to
the
existing
Gable
and
then
a
flat
roof
porch
that
sort
of
infills
this
little
niche
and
starts
to
speak
to
the
the
traditional
front,
porch
that
you
see
on
these
homes
and
the
adjacent
building.
G
So
just
to
run
you
guys
the
floor
running
through
the
floor
plan,
real
quick.
We
have
that
existing
porch
that
holds
an
accessible
ramp
up
to
the
building
entrance,
that's
elevated
above
the
the
existing
grade.
This
is
a
five
bedroom
unit
with
living
space
on
the
street,
to
try
to
activate
the
street
front,
and
you
know
just
provide
some
lice
on
it.
Consistent
with
some
of
the
historic
buildings.
G
You
then
go
up
to
a
similar
five
bedroom
unit
and
then
we've
actually
tucked
the
third
unit.
It's
a
smaller
three
bedroom
unit.
We've
tucked
that
within
the
roof
structure,
to
sort
of
create
what
would
be
a
a
traditional
you
know
like
if
one
of
these
larger
multi-family
homes
had
been
renovated,
often
they'd
sort
of
squeeze
in
an
apartment
in
the
Attic
and
what
that
does?
Oh
and
this
sorry,
this
is
just
a
quick
mock-up
of
the
connection
back
to
the
existing
basement.
G
So
what
that
does
from
a
massing
standpoint
is
really
allow
this
building
to
read
as
a
two,
a
two-story
building.
You
know
with
a
small
attic
apartment
and
have
a
really
similar
scale
and
appearance
to
the
existing
building.
We've
chosen
a
really
you
know
a
single.
G
G
You
know
this
is
a
window
over
the
kitchen
counters,
so
we
think
it
gives
it
a
real
Simplicity,
but
just
a
little
bit
of
Folly
that
you
might
find
in
some
of
these
older
homes
that
were
really
designed
around
a
single
family
use
in
some
of
the
unique
spaces
that
come
with
that
we
have
a
dormer
here
on
this
end
and
then
the
cross
Gable
coming
in
you
know
it
extends
lower
and
picks
up
some
unique
Windows
into
the
stairwell
as
the
stairwell
moves
up,
and
then
we've
tried
to
contrast
a
little
bit.
G
You
know
this
really
simple,
traditional
form
with
a
a
slightly
sleeker
timber,
timber
frame,
porch
that
picks
up
and
references
the
the
scale
and
rhythm
of
of
the
historic
porches
with
a
little
bit
more.
G
You
know
modern
detailing,
but
still
historically
inspired
with
a
nice
infill
railing
and
that
porch
elevated
above
the
ground
floor,
we're
proposing
LP,
smart
side
so
com.
You
know
a
real
composite
pre-finished
siding
with
trim
around
windows,
Corner
trim,
rake
trim
and
probably
a
stucco
parge
on
the
exposed
Foundation
with
an
architectural
shingle
roof.
G
We
really
like
you,
know
we're
trying
to
balance
a
a
you
know
historically
appropriate,
but
you
know
slightly
contemporary
aesthetic
and
feel,
like
you
know,
some
of
the
monotone
treatment
of
the
you
know
a
nice
light,
gray,
neutrals
and
monotone
treatment
of
the
siding
and
trim
can
let
the
building
be
a
nice
simple,
subtle
fabric.
G
You
know
with
this
warm
porch
and
entry
door
as
a
nice
contrasting
element
to
that.
This
is
a
side
angle
I'm,
showing
some
of
the
scale
breakdown
that
we're
trying
to
tie
into
with
the
existing.
And
then
this
is
the
back
corner.
You
know
we.
We
really
try
to
keep
the
the
facades
simple,
but
with
really
nice
proportion
and
nice
scale,
I
think
that's!
G
What's
really
successful
about
a
lot
of
these
historic
homes
is
just
they
have
great
Rhythm
scale
and
proportion,
and
you
know
we
tried
to
to
reference
that
and
be
a
little
restrained
and
not
overdo
it
just
to
to
mix
things
up
unnecessarily.
So
is
there
some
views
from
the
backsides
and
then
the
corresponding
elevations,
so
yeah
I'll
open
it
up?
We'd
love
to
get
some
feedback
from
you
all
we're
sort
of
excited
to
be
tackling
the
challenge
of
Designing
a
new
building
in
the
historic
district.
G
H
G
G
You
know
one
of
the
positive
things
Steve
to
this
strategy
is
it
does
trigger
and
provide
for
the
sprinklering
of
the
existing
building,
increasing
the
fire
safety
in
that
structure,
which
you
know
would
probably
wouldn't
be
happening
if
we
were
just
sort
of
keeping
the
building,
as
is
so,
you
know
there
are
some
pros
to
treating
it
as
a
single
building
single
fire
area
from
a
life
safety
standpoint,
foreign.
H
H
How
are
we
going
to
get
enough
Headroom
in
there,
because
without
going
out
12
feet
deep
or
something
because
the
the
grade
is
two
feet
below
the
bottom
of
the
siding
on
the
existing
house?
And
then
you
want
to
cover
it
with
a
foot
of
dirt
for
planting
and
then
you've
got
to
put
the
ceiling
and
then
so
you're
like
four
feet
below
the
bottom,
siding
on
the
existing
house.
H
G
A
No
I
figured,
you
know
it
sort
of
just
go
as
far
as
we
needed
to
mm-hmm.
G
H
I
see
that
there
is
a
range
to
the
new
building,
the
new
half
building,
but
is
there
a
handicapped
I,
don't
see
any
handicap
bathrooms
or
handicapped
special
handicapped
in
terms.
G
Yeah,
so
we
just
because
of
the
low
unit
count
we're
actually
not
required
to
sorry.
Excuse
me
required
to
provide
fully
accessible
units,
but
these
are
all
type
B
units
so
they're,
you
know
there
there's
accessible
routes
through
them.
There's
enough
space
in
the
bathroom.
For
a
wheelchair,
you
know
the
doors,
the
door
to
open
and
close
so
they're,
not
fully
accessible
but
they're
type
B
units.
So
there's
a
degree
of
accessibility
that
sort
of
building
code
requirements.
I
I
I
like
to
speak
concerning
the
the
appearance
of
the
building
itself.
It
doesn't
to
me
they're
a
very
sober
and
austere.
Look
that
you're
proposing
does
not
harmonize
well
with
the
existing
building
or
the
one
caddy
corner
on
the
corner,
the
one
that
it
best
harmonizes
with
is
the
very
Stark
and
and
to
me
repellent
looking
dorm
thing
directly
across
the
street
and
I.
Don't
think!
That's!
That's
a
good
look
but,
of
course,
I'm
interested
to
hear
what
other
folks.
E
You
well
I
think
that
the
the
200
the
highlands
has
in
your
state.
You
know
you
can
be
rendered
as
a
fairly
simplistic
design,
but
there
is
actually
a
tremendous
amount
of
articulation
that
comes
from
the
differentiation
of
materiality
the
shingles
above
the
different
planes.
There's
not
there's
not
a
single
side
on
that.
There's,
not
a
single
facade
that
is
smooth
or
flat,
there's
articulation
and
depth
on
every
single
facade.
E
C
E
Is
that
particularly
with
how
a
steer
the
design
is-
and
it's
I
think
that
it's
important
to
note-
that
I
personally
think
it's
possible
to
build
new
new
buildings
in
historic
districts
in
ways
that
are
different
and
interesting
are
still
compatible,
but
I
think
that
this
this
I
mean
I
I
personally,
think
you
could
design
will
need
to
be
more
reflective
of
its
surrounding
than
it
is
currently
just
in
the
you
know,
the
in
the
shape
of
the
Gable
and
things
like
that
that
the
the
200
Highland
really
does
speak
to
interesting,
articulation
and
and
a
more
you
know,
pedestrian
focused
experience
or
ground
level.
E
Incidentally,
probably
the
wrong
word,
because
they
are
said
that
that
a
more
you
know,
human
human
scale,
look
Timber,
framing
well,
I,
think
it's
very
beautiful,
I
I,
don't
know
how
well
that
speaks
to
the
neighborhood
itself,
but
I
would
hope
that,
in
addition
to
materiality,
we
could
talk
about
the
massing
and
scale
this
property
in
comparison
to
its
neighbor.
E
D
G
No,
we
haven't,
we
haven't
gotten
any
feedback
from
anyone
in
the
neighborhood
about
the
designs.
Yet
at
this
point,
I
think
you
guys
are
really
sort
of
our
first
stop
you're
the
first
people
to
see
the
design.
You
know
we
had
some
hand
sketches.
We
shared
with
the
pre-application
committee,
but
I
think
we
really
wanted
to.
You
know,
get
some
of
your
feedback
and
thoughts,
and
you
know
work
to
incorporate
that.
D
To
do
that,
what's
that,
is
that
part
of
your
plan
to
open
this
up
to
the
neighbors.
G
It
wasn't,
but
I
think
you
know
I'd
be
happy
to
talk
to
Charlie
about
that.
You
know,
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
how
many
of
the
the
homes
on
that
circle
now
are
are
still
single
family
versus.
You
know
college
rentals,
but
we
could
certainly
look
into
it
all
and
try
to
invite
people
to
you
know
just
be
more
proactive
about
inviting
some
feedback
on
the
designs.
D
G
Yeah
I
think
that's
correct.
It's
it's
slightly
bigger!
You
know.
The
the
wing
coming
off
of
the
side.
Sort
of
facing
200
you
know
is
ends
up
being
a
bit
larger
as
the
just
cam
do
you
know
the
square
footage
is
offhand
how.
A
Is
they're
they're
in
that
presentation,
I
think
it's
like
500
square
feet,
bigger
and
footprint
yeah
in
footprint,
yeah.
G
G
You
know
a
little
between
three
and
four
hundred
square
feet,
bigger,
so
not
huge,
but
you
know
in
in
the
small
single
family
context:
it's
not
insignificant.
D
G
D
D
And
also
along
the
pass
through
the
the
underground
section,
I
guess
I
would
work
with
the
fire
department
to
find
out
the
hell.
A
fire
would
move
to
the
area.
I
would
be
concerned
that
a.
C
D
D
C
G
G
You
know
to
speak
to
the
the
I
guess:
I'm
interested
you
know,
I
as
Architects
we
always
default
to
you,
have
more
neutral
and
natural.
You
know
I
think
our
goal
is
a
more
neutral
and
natural
looking
color
palette
just
from
where
my
training
comes
from,
you
know,
but
we
did
look
at
some
color
studies
and
got
a
little
bit
of
cold
feet
in
in
proposing
colors
for
the
building.
G
You
know,
but
I
I
do
take
your
point
in
terms
of
you
know
the
way
the
existing
building
feels
versus
you
know,
sort
of
the
the
neutral
look,
we're
going
for
I,
don't
I!
Think
a
you
know.
A
nice
neutral
could
be
really
nice.
There's
a
couple
beautiful
buildings
in
this
area,
there's
one
in
Trumansburg,
that's
just
like
I'm
in
love
with
it's,
this
neutral
gray,
with
a
warm
door.
G
You
know
and
and
I,
don't
know
what
role
color
plays
in
this
committee.
You
know
because
I
don't
know
if
Charlie's
planning
to
repaint
the
existing
building
or
if
we're
going
to
try
to
maintain
the
existing
colors.
G
G
E
I'm
curious
of
any
trees
or
trees
are
taken
down
I'm.
Just
thinking
about
like
one
thing
that
I've
admired
about
that
property.
Is
that
it's
like
so
open
and
it
looks
you
know
like
forested
and
you
know
obviously
building
this
would
definitely
change
that
look
and
so
yeah.
G
G
You
know
it
just
sort
of
touches
the
building
footprint
so
that
that
one
might
have
to
go,
but
we
could
keep
the
ones
on
Westborn
and
you
know-
and
then
you
know
always
replant
with
something
a
little
bit
smaller-
to
try
to
keep
some
of
that
feel.
H
H
A
It's
it's
I,
don't
think
it's
much
taller,
maybe
a
few
feet
taller
in
total.
A
I
can't
remember
what
the
total
square
footage
worked
out
to
be,
but
it's
it's
similar,
the
footprints.
You
know
it's
sort
of
a
similar
strategy
where
the
the
footprint
is
basically
the
same
apartment,
shape
on
the
second
floor
as
it
is
on
the
first
and
then
you
have
an
attic
space,
that's
a
little
more
confined
and
we're
showing
a
similarly
pitched
roof
with
a
similar
footprint
decrease
in
the
Attic.
A
So
you
could
probably
find
I,
don't
know.
Maybe
a
thousand
square
feet
total
difference
between
the
two
yeah.
G
And
I
just
checked
our
model.
The
peak
Heights
are
actually
the
same,
and
our
and
our
second
floor,
like
the
eve,
the
eve
Heights
are
also
similar
and
are
the
peak
that
faces
Highland
is,
is
a
similar
width
as
well
they're,
both
around
you
know
in
the
mid
20s.
Ours
is
actually
even
oh.
This
is
the
back
side.
It's
a
little
bit
smaller,
so
I,
don't
know
I
mean
I.
I
do
feel.
G
G
I
do
I,
do
you
know,
understand
and
respect
the
the
overall?
You
know
footprint,
Mass
and
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
anything
creative
we
could
do
to
to
maintain
the
the
unit
bed
count
and
and
tighten
up
that
cross
Peak
a
little
bit
and
then
you
know
so
there's
a
fair
amount
of
variety
on
that
side
of
the
plan.
Is
it
kind
of
the
the
Westborn
facade
that
in
the
back
corner
that
we
kept
really
simple?
Is
that
kind
of
bothersome
to
you
all
as
just
feeling
a
little
too
austere?
G
H
G
We
were
going
to
use
a
composite
siding,
so
it's
LP
smartside
is
the
product.
We
are
thinking
of
it's
yeah,
it's
it's
wood
and
they're
they're
individual
boards.
But
it's
you
know
it's
almost
like
a
particle
board,
that's
stamped
and
it's
it's
got
the
profile
of
a
traditional
wood
clapboard
and
it
and
you
get
it
pre-finished.
So
they
come
with
nice.
You
know
like
25
year
warranty
on
the
the
pre-finishing,
so
that's
kind
of
a
nice
thing
for
a
pseudo
commercial
building
and
they
make
a
bunch.
G
They
have
a
lot
of
different
trim
profiles
and
stuff
to
help.
You
know
with
window
trim,
and
you
know
they
have
pre-formed
corners.
You
know
you
get
trimmed
from
four
six,
eight
nine
ten.
So
it
gives
you
gives
us
a
lot
of
flexibility
as
a
system
for
for
executing
a
lot
of
this
detail.
B
G
E
A
It's
actually
Mike
you
misspoke,
it's
it'll,
be
two
units,
one
will
be
a
five
bedroom
and
one
will
be
a
six
bedroom.
The
existing
building,
yeah.
C
G
E
But
I
do
appreciate
that
part,
so
I
would
say
that
that
to
I
guess.
To
reiterate
my
point:
is
I'd
like
to
get
I'd
like
you
to
walk
away
with
some
useful
advice,
I
think
a
single
material
as
a
cladding
on
the
wall.
The
entire
building
is
overly
simplistic
for
both
its
neighbor
and
for
the
houses
in
the
historic
district
and
so
I
would
like
and
I
would
also
like
to
see
more
articulation
in
the
breaking
of
those
planes.
E
C
Influence
I
think
articulation.
D
E
Actually
make
it
feel
feel
smaller
and
I
think
it
could
speak
to
your
desire
to
to
do
something.
Creative
I,
don't
think
it
needs
to
mimic
I'm,
not
asking
for
shingles
on
the
second
floor,
and
you
know
collabored
on
the
first
floor,
but
I
think
you
could
use
your
creativity
with
the
materiality
to
to
to
mix
it
up
in
some
interesting
ways.
So
that's
that's
something.
I
would
hope
you
take
away
from
this
yeah.
G
H
E
Because
we're
also
looking
at
wanting
these
buildings
to
be
around
in
50
and
100
years
and
we'd
like
the
building
to
be
eligible
for
tuition
and
expanded
historic
district.
At
some
point
and
in
doing
that,
and
it's
fine
if
it
changed
the
present
day
and
it
will,
with
its
materiality
yeah
with
the
design
itself.
D
H
Yeah
I'm
looking
to
have
an
issue
with
you
again.
A
second
I
mean
that's,
you
know
that's
up
to
the
zoning
and
I'm
talking
with
good
City
about
that.
You
know
it
almost
seems
like.
If
it's
done
right,
it
could
be
nicer
than
having
a
massive
addition
onto
the
current
board.
C
E
E
Yeah,
the
former
character
no
longer
exists
with
The
New
Parish
bar
in
the
back.
That's
a
different
type
of
structure.
I.
Think
that,
because
you
truly
are
outside
in
the
underground
have
to
shoot
that
for
one
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
categorically
opposed
to
a
building,
but
I
think
it
does.
It
needs
to
have
been
better
more
competitive
for
the
current
one
and
the
the
front
gave
up
to
me.
The
front
of
the
house
actually
doesn't
read
like
the
front
of
a
house
or
or
front
of
the
god
of
a
single
family
and
I.
E
The
programming
on
the
inside
but
I
would
take
a
look
at
that
and
see
what
you
could
do
with
your
with,
particularly
with
your
street,
massage
to
help
them
read
like
a
single
family
home.
Even
if
they
aren't,
because.
H
This
lot
just
recently
conveyed
to
the
new
owner,
or
is
it
business
modern
with
the
rental
Stone
disability
for
a
while.
G
He
is
I,
don't
think
he's
closed
yet
on
the
purchase
of
the
property.
So
I
think
it's
it's
in
the
middle
of
closing.
They
may
have
actually
just
closed
last
week.
H
G
It
was
the
risk
he
took,
I
mean
it
was
part
of
a
larger
portfolio
of
buildings.
So
you
know
I
think
there
was
a
a
greater
calculus
at
play
than
just
this
site.
G
H
You
mentioned
highest
and
best
use
in
the
application
and
I
I.
Looked
it
up
and
I
guess
the
most
financially
beneficial
is
the
highest
and
best
use
according
to
that
definition,
I
found
online.
So
you
know
squirrels
and
worms
at
different
highest
and
best
use
of
value.
A
piece
of
property.
That's
true,
just
all
just
about
financial
rewards
for
the
new
owner.
G
You
know
I,
don't
want
to
just
say
no,
because
I
think
you
know
you're
not
incorrect,
but
I
do
think
you
know
going
through
some
of
this
with
you
all
in
the
past,
like
modern
living.
Rentals
does
have
a
really
good
record
of
of
rehabilitating
buildings
around
town
that
honestly
have
not
been
cared
for
and
I
think
you
know,
Charlie
has
done
a
good
job.
G
Breathing
new
life
into
these
structures
and
I
think
he
takes
care
of
his
tenants
and
takes
care
of
his
buildings
and
I
do
like
you
know,
I
I'm
pushing
hard
to
try
to
sprinkler
as
many
projects
as
we
can
in
town.
Like
some
poor
kid
you
know
passes
away
in
a
fire
in
one
of
these
dirty
old
buildings.
Every
few
years
and
I
think
I
think
it's
important
to
weigh
you
know
it's
it's
an
opportunity
to
protect
200
Highland,
you
know
and
sprinklers
there
help
that
building
stay
around.
G
You
know
for
the
next
50
or
100
years.
So
you
know
it's
always
a
there's,
always
a
a
weight
to
different
sides
of
it
and
I.
Don't
think
you're
100
wrong
Steve,
but
I
do
think
there
are
some
benefits
that
come
along
with
this
kind
of
investment
in
the
site,
for
what
it's
worth
I.
H
Also
want
to
rebut
the
aggregation
pipes.
Court
is
example
for
this
site,
because
this
is
not
Knights
Court
and
that's
around
the
corner.
Actually
I
drove
Highland
Road
and
from
from
Beyond
Wyckoff
Road
to
the
north,
all
the
way
to
Thurston
there's
only
this
house
ones
or
a
small
cottage
in
the
woods
and
another
house
set
way
back
from
the
relatively
long
driveway.
So
really
that
entire
block
is
wooded,
and
this
will
be
a
a
major
change
in
that
how
you
receive
diversity.
A
G
A
Neighborhood
you
experience
Heights
along
with
that
part
of
Highland.
C
B
H
Just
to
get
a
better
idea
of
comparison
of
the
size
of
the
Moodle
into
the
existing,
the
abuse
will
get
accurate
numbers.
I
think
one
place
in
the
application
says
1850
square
feet,
existing
building
area.
That
doesn't
say
anything
that
includes
porches
or
not,
and
some
things
on
the
application
are
dimensions
or
roof
overheads,
which
isn't
very
useful.
I'd
like
to
see
the
overhang's
dotted
in
dimension
to
the
actual
loss
for
building
foreign.
H
J
C
C
H
As
bad
as
the
one
proposed
for
State,
Street
and
first
place,
but
it's
it's
one
and
a
half
times
as
big
almost
and
when
you
add
it
to
the
existing
now
you're
two
and
a
half
times
as
much
building
on
the
lot
as
there
is
now
so
we're
proposing
two
and
a
half
240
percent
as
much
building
business.
Now,
which
is
a
significant
increase.
A
Yeah
I
think
part
of
part
of
that
was
the
porches
and
part
of
it
is
also
that
there's
an
existing
shed
that
was
included
in
the
actual
lock
coverage.
Existing
I
know
it's
not
that
doesn't
make
up
400
square
feet,
but.
B
H
That'd
be
nice
to
know,
as
far
as
giving
them
useful
information
to
walk
away
with
there's.
You
know
more
variety
of
deciding
engravement
planes
in
regard
to
the
size
once
once
we
do
know
we
have
it.
E
Data,
this
is
an
unusually
difficult
situation,
because
this
If
This
Were
a
dentist
or
neighborhood.
It
would
be
a
lot
easier
to
say
the
building
should
be
X
number
feed
apart.
They
should
all
be
roughly
this
size.
The
neighborhood.
Not
that
way.
Holding
density
is
not
the
character
of
this
part
in
neighborhood
and
so
I
think
that's
part
of
the
calculation
too.
E
D
H
There's
other
one
other
thing
that
we
should
probably
discuss
is
the
the
difference,
the
new
building
being
a
different
angles
than
the
whole
building
he's
tilted
about
15
degrees
or
something.
What
would
think
about
that?
Maybe
you
could
say
that
differentiates
it
from
gold
or
you
could
say
it
shouldn't
be
on
the
same
orthodical
grid.
As
the
old
that's
that'll,
be
my
opinion.
H
G
G
B
B
G
Think
we
have
a
lot
of
good
takeaways.
We
appreciate
the
feedback
and
yeah
I
think
that
was
our
goal
was
to
just
you
know,
get
some
get
some
thoughts
from
you
and
try
to
take
them
back
and
and
revise
a
bit
and
see
where
we
go
next.
So
all.
B
G
Okay,
so
this
is
our
initial
design
for
601
State
Street.
The
existing
site
is
on
the
corner
of
East
State
in
Ferris
place,
there's
a
nice
little
infill
space
behind
the
current
building
that
faces
East
State
Street
at
the
line
end
of
the
line
of
a
few
existing
multi-family
buildings.
G
There's
there's
a
few
like
I
think
they're,
actually
duplexes
historic
duplexes
in
in
this
row
that
are
quite
nice,
they're,
really
well
proportioned,
and
we,
as
is
obvious
from
the
designs
you've
seen
so
far,
have
took
some
inspiration
from
them.
G
You
know
we're
sort
of
flanked
on
this
side
by
a
few
larger
homes,
especially
on
the
corner,
and
the
urban
fabric
is
a
little
bit
more
open
on
on
this
side
of
the
street.
But
it's
got
a
really
nice
scale
and
Rhythm,
and
so
we
felt
like
it
actually
could
be
kind
of
nice
to
to
start
to
to
continue
this
Rhythm.
G
It
seems
like
a
nice
opportunity
for
an
urban
infill
project
in
a
in
a
design
like
this,
so
here's
our
existing
site,
we're
rotated
90
degrees,
so
East
States
here
Ferris
is
here.
These
are
our
setbacks.
We're
we're
10
feet.
Our
actual
rear
yard
is
here
because
the
project
has
a
state
street
address,
and
so
our
proposal,
tucks
in
between
the
building
and
the
existing
side,
yard
this
project.
G
We
actually
need
a
variance
for
because
we're
encroaching
on
that
rear
yard,
but
we
thought
that
the
scale
and
proportion
and
Rhythm
was
gonna,
be
a
lot
more
desirable
than
trying
to
to
build
something
within
the
existing
setbacks.
G
G
We've
picked
up
this
Rhythm
coming
down
Ferris
place
and
have
designed
the
building
around
this
idea
of
a
you
know:
sort
of
duplex,
where
we
have
a
fair,
a
really
symmetrical
building
with
Living
Spaces
on
the
street
facade
a
nice
entry
porch
that
takes
you
into
a
large
vestibule
and
and
stair
ceremonial
stair
up
to
the
upper
floors
or
down
to
the
lower
floor.
G
We've
sort
of
set
back
the
the
back
portion
to
try
to
keep
the
like
the
proportions
of
this
street
facing
main
volume
a
little
bit
narrower.
So
we
could
keep
the
Peak
Running,
linear
and
in
keeping
with
some
of
the
the
the
homes
running
up
Ferris
place,
the
basement,
the
the
basement
floor
is
actually
set
into
the
hill,
so
that
again
here
the
building
is
three
stories
but
presents
as
a
two-story
building
from
the
street
because
of
the
steep
existing
grade.
We
have
across
that
site.
G
So
with
this
design
you
know
we
really
loved
the
hip
roof,
and
here
we've
proposed
a
sort
of
shallow
hip
roof.
That's
that
runs
linearly
along
Ferris
place
just
to
sort
of
stretch
the
building
out.
G
You
know
we
really
wanted
to
try
to
express
some
of
the
horizontality
here.
So
you
know,
we've
run
the
eaves
long
I
think
we
have
almost.
Is
it
three
foot
Eaves
cam
yeah
that
you
know
especially
like
I?
Don't
know
if
anybody
knows
today's
construction
and
details,
but
with
raised
heel
trusses
we're
able
to
run
that
Eve
down
and
drop
our
soffit
line
close
in
proximity
to
the
window,
Heights
of
the
second
floor
Windows,
even
though
we
have
you
know
slightly
taller
ceilings
and
two
feet
of
heel.
G
For
you
know,
blown
in
insulation
and
modern
insulating
techniques-
we've
you
know
brought
in
this
horizontal
trim
band
at
the
top
that
the
Upper
Floor
Windows
butt
up
to,
which
is
you
know,
a
really
nice
historic
detail
that
you
see
a
lot.
We've
brought
a
banding
course
around
the
second
floor.
G
That
starts
to
pick
up
the
front
porch
and
the
goal,
and-
and
here
we
we
decided
against
Corner
trim,
because
we
really
wanted
to
try
to
stress
the
horizontality
of
this
building
and
and
help
stretch
it
out
and
bring
the
scale
down.
G
G
But
then
you
get
this
nice
moment
where
they,
the
window
Heights,
you
know,
become
more
Square
as
the
the
windows
pop
over
the
the
existing
front
porch,
and
then
you
get
the
partially
partially
below
grade
lower
floor
that
we
imagined
being
a
you
know:
a
stucco
parge
with
a
nice
accent,
color
to
a
dark
again:
clapboard
siding
pre-finished
LP.
G
Here,
in
a
dark
gray,
you
know
I
love
the
the
William
Henry
Miller
projects.
There's
some
of
the
the
house
on
I
forget
what
the
street
is
Right
adjacent
to
this,
but
some
of
his
dark
painted
homes,
I
just
really
love
the
monotone
dark,
and
you
know
Up
For
Debate.
Obviously,
but
here
again
we
really
like
the
idea
of
complimenting
the
the
dark
siding
with
a
natural
wood
porch.
G
G
You
know
a
nice,
potentially
a
wood
door
again
to
give
a
nice
warmth
and
in
contrast
to
the
you
know,
the
darker
siding
and
larger
Windows
in
the
in
the
forward
portion
of
the
home
double
windows
that
sort
of
Mark
the
living
room
and
sort
of
potentially
reference.
You
know
like
the
bay
windows
of
some
of
these
historic
homes
and
then
A
View
From,
the
rear.
G
You
know
we
have
a
a
peaked
roof
coming
off
the
rear,
with
a
more
glassy
facade.
That
sort
of
looks
out
over
the
hill.
You
know
you
see
in
some
of
the
adjacent
properties.
What
looks
like
potentially
little
additions
on.
You
know
the
existing,
simpler
Square
design
so
yeah.
These
are
elevations.
G
Yeah
so
I'll
leave
it
there
and
open
it
up
for
some
feedback.
G
C
G
G
How
closely
do
you
think
it's
important
that
we
match
the
scale
of
that
build
like
I,
think
it
makes
sense
at
Highland
like
I,
completely
understand
that
argument
there,
because
they're
more
sort
of
you
know
on
a
on
a
hill,
and
but
this
feels
like
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
different
scenario
where
this
building's
around
the
corner
on
Ferris,
and
it's
almost
you
know,
feels
relational
to
those
buildings
as
a
as
a
continuation
of
that
street
facade.
B
B
G
Yeah
so
I
guess
this
is
an
interesting
point
and
I
in
my
feeling
is
that,
like
the
rear
yard,
setback
is
where
it's
at
only
out
of
a
quirk
of
addressing
like.
If
this
building
had
a
fairest
place
address,
the
rear
yard
would
be.
G
You
know,
on
the
other
edge
of
the
property,
and
it
almost
like
to
me
feels
like
it's
in
in
relationship
to
the
rest
of
the
urban
fabric.
There
it's
almost
an
unnatural
place
for
for
there
to
be
a
rear
yard.
I
was
sort
of
feeling
like
because
of
because
it's
a
corner
lot.
G
It
would
feel
better
from
an
urban
standpoint
if
that
was
actually
thought
of
more,
like
a
side
yard.
You
know,
because
those
homes
up
Ferris
place
are
fairly.
You
know
tight
on
their
side
yards
and
that
you
know
that
is
typical.
You
know
on
most
streets
that
the
side
yards
are
a
little
bit
tighter.
So
you
know,
technically
speaking,
it's
a
rear
yard,
but
from
an
urban
planning
standpoint
I
don't
know,
my
gut
would
be
that
it
would
be
better.
G
The
reason
we
went
this
route
was
because
we
thought
it
would
be
better
to
sort
of
imagine
that
as
a
as
a
side
yard,
just
from
an
experiential
standpoint,
you
know
but
yeah,
that's
kind
of
where
I
was
where
we
were
coming
from
there.
G
We
actually
had
a
preliminary
meeting
with
the
bza
last
month
and
they
said
that
we're
not
saying
no
was
there
feedback,
but
they
really
I
think
you
know
I,
think
your
opinions
on
this
project
would
weigh
heavily
into
there
considering
a
variance
for
it
was
the
the
basic
rundown
from
their
their
feedback,
but
they
were
open
to
it.
G
You
know
they
kind
of
understood
that
it
was
a
kind
of
a
unique
situation
because
of
the
corner,
lot
and
and
kind
of
you
know.
I
walked
on
through
that
same
point
about
the
the
side
yards
there,
and,
and
so
they
were
open
to
it.
H
A
Yeah
you.
C
A
G
You
know
it's
it's.
Those
parking
spots
you
know
are
are
also
again
there's
the
first
floor
units
aren't
fully
accessible
but
they're.
It
was
visible
as
the
term
for
type
B
units,
so
they're
visible.
We
have
accessible
routes
through
turning
radiuses
and
the
the
bathrooms
have
clear
floor
area
and
Provisions.
You
know
you
put
in
the
blocking
for
grab
bars
in
case
you
need
to
install
grab
bars,
you
know,
but
those
parking
spots,
the
way
we
sort
of
set
the
ground
floor.
G
You
know
those
parking
spots
could
be.
You
know,
easy
access
for
somebody
to
park
and
walk
in
on
the
porch
and
go
right
in
the
ground
right.
In
the
first
floor
off
of
Ferris
place,
you
know
so
it's
it's
hard
to
get
into
a
lot
of
these
old
homes,
and
so
I
do
think
it
provides
a
benefit
that
you
know.
Even
if
you're
not
a
a
fully.
G
You
know
if
you're,
not
in
a
wheelchair,
but
you
still
have
trouble
walking
or
you
know
any
sort
of
disability
like
that.
You
know
there's
a
benefit
to
being
able
to
park
there
and
go
in
right
off
the
porch,
so
I
I
would
you
know
it'd
be
nice
to
be
able
to
keep
a
few
of
those
spaces,
because
I
think
that
is
a
really
nice
thing
in
a
hill
Town.
D
I'm,
taking
a
look
at
the
site
plan,
these
scale
of
the
outline
of
the
new
place
next
to
the
old
place
and
again
man
saying
wise,
and
it
appears
to
be
so
much
larger
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
the
scale
on
it.
If
it
was
smaller
and
you
had
more
space
around
it,
then
you
won't.
That
would
solve
a
lot
of
the
problems.
D
I
understand
it'll
say
that
a
lot
of
these
buildings
are
close
together,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
we
have
to
speak
really
bad
I
mean
and
the
other
thing
that
I
have
a
question
on
again
and
I
wanted
to
get
to.
That
section
is
talking
to
the
neighbors
and
finding
out
where
they,
you
know
what
they
see
what's
going
on
in
their
neighborhood.
Would
they
be
going.
C
I
I
That's
kind
of
my
part
of
my
little
world
there
and
I
used
to
live
on
South
Hill
and
walk
across
the
Footbridge
and
walk
up
first
place
all
the
time
so
I
know
Ferris
very
well
and
I
grant
that
that
your
proposed
building
responds
respectively
to
some
of
the
other
buildings
on
on
Ferris
I
appreciate
that
one
of
the
beautiful
aspects
of
walking
up,
Ferris
and
down
and
even
driving
by
on
East
State
Street,
is
having
that
open
area
there
and
I
I.
I
Take
that
to
be
a
character-defining
feature
of
that
little
horn
and
I
think
you
know
we
would
want
to
consider
careful
what
we
would
want.
What,
if
anything,
we
would
want
to
see
build
there?
I
mean
the
the
hollow
there
is
just
so
pleasing
it's
such
a
such
a
gratifying
open
space
both
on
Paris,
which
is
more
of
a
thoroughfare
than
that
appears,
and
it's
it's
quite
visible
from
East
State
Street,
which
is
one
of
the
one
of
the
two
main
arteries
coming
in
and
out
of
attacks.
G
Yeah,
so
let
me
see,
can
I
share
my
screen
again.
B
G
This
isn't
directly
next
door,
but
it's
second,
it's
it's
two
houses
down
from
this
existing
site.
I
mean
this
was
our
primary
inspiration.
We
really
loved
the
the
high
the
the
hip
roof.
G
G
You
know
even
the
proportioning
of
the
front,
porch
I
think
ours
should
be
a
little
bit
deeper
and
we
need
to
get
railings
on
there
that
wasn't
rendered
yet
so
so
that
was
our
primary
inspiration.
G
You
know
the
house.
Next
door
is
a
little
bit.
You
know
it
has
some
a
similar
Vibe.
It's
got
the
hip
roof.
You
know
it's
got
the
the
Dormers,
which
you
know
personally
speaking,
aesthetically
I'm,
not
a
huge
fan
of
the
hip
Roof
Dormers.
Coming
out.
C
G
Simplified
take
on
that
hip
roof.
But
again
you
know
it's
got
the
the
flanking
windows
up
next
to
the
front
porch,
you
know
sort
of
a
unique
element
above
the
porch.
You
know
in
both
these
homes.
G
I
actually
I
know
I'm
working
for
Charlie,
but
I
did
honestly
feel
because
I
used
to
live
right
around
the
corner
from
here
as
well.
It
just
seemed
like
a
really
nice
spot
to
like
infill
some
infill
Urban
Fabric
and
continue
this.
You
know
it's
not
Suburban.
It's
actually
like
a
a
really
nice
Urban
residential
neighborhood.
This
has
always
just
felt
like
a
hole
to
me
in
that
fabric.
G
G
You
know
these
buildings
a
little
bit
less.
So
from
an
inspirational
standpoint.
These
are
sort
of
these
were
the
more
duplex
duplexy
looking
buildings
where
we
were,
you
know
trying
to
pull
some
of
the
Symmetry
from,
but
we're
just
trying
to
be
a
little
bit.
You
know,
I,
don't
want
to
be
so
overt
about
trying
to
pretend
like
this
was
a
duplex
or
anything,
because
I
didn't
really
feel
like
that
was
going
to
be
anything.
Anybody
was
really
interested
in,
but
you
know
keeping
the
porches
I
think
we're.
G
C
E
E
So
they
feel
like
from
a
side
of
its
perspective
that
they
fit
I'm
a
bit
concerned
about
your
career,
in
particular
of
the
structure,
because
I
think
it
is
going
to
be
visible
from
the
the
main
property,
the
name,
the
main
site
on
State
Street,
and
that
does
not
read
anything
to
me
that
read
that
the
highly
commercial
structure
so
just
and
I
think
that
will
be
visible
from
from
the
State
Street
side.
E
So
I
would
be
interested
and
visit
the
park.
That
would
be
not
fronting
Century
because
it's
not
on
State
Street,
but
the
beside
that
would
be
visible
from
State,
Street
I.
Think
that's
going
to
read
as
not
like
its
neighbors,
so
that
as
feedback
I
think
I
would,
if
you're
gonna
end
up
submitting
this
to
anybody
else
or
back
to
us.
E
I
would
go
and
check
your
sizing
on
a
district
plan
because
it
makes
it
look
like
the
the
proposed
building
is
actually
somewhat
smaller
than
the
existing
building,
but
that
is
contradicted
very
clearly
by
your
site.
Plan
proposed,
so
I
would
check
that
scale,
just
because
I
think,
because
what
you've
shown
in
that
District
plan
makes
it
look
like
it's
very
compatible
with
its
neighbors,
when,
in
fact,
the
site
plan
proposed
I
would
render
that
it's
I.
C
E
Hazardous,
yes,
that
it's
actually
sizably
larger,
so
I
would
just
look
at
that.
I'm
not
opposed
actually
to
info
again,
like
I,
said
I'm
not
opposed
to
NFL
development,
but
I.
Think
the
three
things
like
I
said:
size
masking
and
scale
the
design
needs.
The
design
is
overly
simplistic.
It
does
not
fit
in
this
neighborhood
to
me,
while.
G
E
Mass
they
are.
The
skate,
like
the
the
state
of
the
block,
does
reflect
110,
Ferris
I.
Believe
that's
the
one
you
showed
us.
It
lacks
all
the
or
make
detail,
work
that
just
reflected
the
the
desire
of
the
original
property
owner
to
beautify
it
right
and
so
I
would
need
to
see.
I
need
to
see
more
of
that
in
the
final
number,
nine
I
think
the
overly
starved
approach
doesn't
fit,
even
if
the
size
and
scale
could
be.
E
E
E
And
I
think
that
is
an
example
of
what
I
don't
want
to
see
to
be
honest:
I,
don't
think
it
works
a
lot
in
the
neighborhood
I.
Don't
think
it
has
that
that
feel
of
a
property
we
would
like
to
preserve
and
protect
100
years
from
now,
because
it
doesn't
have
those
touch
points
that
fitted
well.
It's
the
it's,
the
shell
of
a
design
that
could
have
worked,
but
it
never
got
there
in
my
opinion
and
I
probably
did
support
it
at
the
time.
E
There
are
some
other,
there
are
I
think
we
have
had
some
successful
in-field
design
and
the
one
in
there's
another
one
in
Cornell
Heights
the
nursing
facility.
Oh
yes,.
D
F
Bridges
bridges
too,
there
is
the
what
they
call.
Oh
sorry,
there
are
two
that
I
believe
that
organization
has
done
won
the
tutor,
which
is
stone
or
appears
to
be
a
stone
structure,
and
then
the
Craftsman,
which
is
one
that
we
approved
a
few
years
ago
that
was
influenced
by
Craftsman
Design.
It's
very
large.
G
Here's
a
I
have
a
question
for
you
guys.
You
know
because
it's
like
we
could
I
know
it
would
be
easier
just
to
recreate
a
historic
building,
which
you
know,
I've
seen
some
of
those
bridges
projects
and
I,
and
they
look
historic
to
me.
They
don't
look
of
the
day
and
am
I.
You
know
just
honestly
am
I
going
down
a
full.
Is
it
a
Fool's
Aaron
to
try
to
do
something
that
isn't
historic,
building
because
I
don't
love
that
that
really
like
has
a
disneylandy
smack
to
it
and
I
hear
you
guys.
G
You
know,
I
think
my
style
and
tendency
is
to
try
to
be
a
little
bit
simpler.
It's
the
kind
of
stuff
I
like
and
I.
Think
for
all
the
ornateness.
A
lot
of
these
homes
do
have
a
Simplicity
to
them.
I,
don't
know
I'm
just
interested
in
some
of
that
feedback.
G
E
E
But
not
much
and
I
think
that
it
quite
honestly,
I
would
suspect
that
if
you
were
not
doing
in
a
historic
district,
you
might
have
approached
it
differently
with
a
much
more
contemporary
design.
We
unfortunately
never
get
to
see
any
of
those
fun
contemporary
designs,
but
frankly,
I
think
might
be
able
to
work,
but
nobody
ever
brings
them
to
us.
We
get
this
like
watered-down
version
of
a
historic
structure,
because.
E
G
That's
all
we're
going
to
hear
from
these
meetings
is
that
we
need
to
be
more
adventuresome
I'm
just
kidding,
but
no
I
I
appreciate
it
I,
you
know
I
think
part
of
it
is
you
know
it's
fear
and
just
you
know
it's
a
lot
to
invest
in
a
design,
and
you
know
you
don't
want
to
go.
You
don't
want
to
push
it
too
far.
You
know
I
think
we
really
struggled
with
the
push
and
pull
of
of
the
feel
of
it
all
so.
G
Yeah
I
appreciate
that
feedback
and
yeah
I
I
think
we're
excited
and
and
happy
to
keep
working
on
these
and
try
to
try
to
solve
some
of
these
concerns.
If
we,
you
know
if
we
can,
to
the
greatest
degree
possible.
H
I'd
like
to
say
that
both
your
floor
plans
and
both
projects
are
very,
very
efficient
and
and
seem
to
seem
to
work
pretty
well
for
the
for
the
for
the
clientele
but
I
I.
Do
wonder
why
none
of
the
bedrooms
have
any
closets.
G
H
Well,
it's
hard
to
put
an
armor
on
a
nine
foot
by
11
foot
room
really
I
I
I
just
think
that
okay,
but
what
I
actually
wanted
to
talk
about
and
sort
of
a
detail,
but
your
roof,
which
is
your
hip
roof,
has
two
different
root
pitches
and
then
the
cable
towards
the
back
has
yet
a
different
roof
pitch.
Could
you
explain
why
do
you
think
those
decisions
to
use
all
the
good
pitches.
G
Yeah
we
wanted
the
we
wanted
some
Peak
to
to
read
on
the
fairest
Place
facade,
because
we
were
really
trying
to
you
know
just
to
express
a
horizontality
to
this
building
that
we
thought
was
kind
of
interesting.
So
you
know
if,
if
we
had
the
Peaks
all
the
same,
it
would
be
much
closer
to
a
pyramid,
and
so
we
were
trying
to
draw
that
Peak
out
a
bit
and
and
let
it
sort
of
align
I,
don't
know
if
it
exactly
does
but
sort
of
read
the
the
porch
up
in
over.
G
You
know
so
that
you
have
this.
This
Ridge
that
references,
the
porch
width
on
that
Ferris
Place,
facade.
G
You
know
we
were
I,
I
will
Express
this
this
rear
facade.
You
know,
I
appreciate
your
feedback
on
the
rear
facade,
because
it's
Kim
and
I
really
struggled
with
the
rear
facade.
We
wanted
to
break
it
off
just
to
start
to
break
down
the
mass
a
bit.
You
know,
because
if
this
thing
was
a
cube,
it
would
be
even
more
massive
feeling,
so
we
were
trying
to
break
off
and
articulate
that
back
volume
and
we
played
with
a
bunch
of
different
roof
options
back
there
and
sort
of
liked.
G
A
H
G
G
The
gray
rooms
are
mechanical
rooms,
the
one
on
the
back
corner.
There
is
a
laundry
room,
so
the
smaller
windows
are
in
the
laundry
room
in
the
back
corner.
H
G
Yeah,
those
are
mechanical
spaces,
storage,
closet,
sort
of
deal.
G
We
forgot
a
door
into
our
bedroom
on
the
first
floor
and
oh
and
I
did
I
did
mean
to
mention
I
apologize,
our
our
district
plan.
That
was
a
hand
sketch
from
an
older
presentation,
so
you're
completely
right
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
reflect
the
current
scale
of
the
existing
proposal,
so
we'll
get
that
updated
in
our
next
round
of
design.
D
B
E
Was
just
gonna
say
one
quick
thing
that
I
think
those
for
me
goes
for
both
this
and
for
200
Highlands,
which
is
when
you,
when
you
come
back,
we're
really
what
I?
What
I
don't
want
to
see
happen
is
and
we've
had
this
happen
on
other
projects
is
that
we
approved
some
pretty
high
quality
building
materials,
and
then
they
come
back
to
us
and
they're
like
oh,
our
budget
didn't
end
up
actually
working
for
us,
and
now
we
would
like
to
propose
these.
Well,
that's
nice,
Alternatives
and
I.
E
Really
don't
want
to
see
that
happen
so
I'm
just
giving
you
a
heads
up
on
that
one.
That
I
would
personally
be
very
opposed
to
scaling
down
after
we
give.
If
we
get
to
a
point
of
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
that
has
we've
had
that
experience
and
I
don't
want
to
see
it
happen
again,
but
it
really
does
come
down
to.
E
We
really
want
to
see
I
really
want
to
see
high
quality
materials,
even
if
they
are
modern
materials,
because
the
modern
materiality
will
speak
to
the
age
we
are
in
now,
and
not
to
suggest
that
you
weren't
going
to
do
high
quality
material.
Just.
H
I,
you
know
we're
sort
of
a
well
in
looking
at
the
existing
buildings
on
each
building
has
like
three
or
four
doors
in
both
your
buildings
today,
at
one
door,
it
just
seems
weird
at
one
door
and
I
know
it's
allowed
by
color
in
your
sprinkler.
You
don't
need
two
exits
and
stuff,
but
I
just
think
it's
something
that
differentiates
the
two
new
building
to
be
a
little
bit.
They
only
get
one
door.
C
H
Maybe
you
don't
need
any
more
doors,
but
I
just
want
to
make
that
observations,
differentiating
the
proposed
projects.
From
generally
you
see
in
the
neighborhoods,
usually
there's
at
least
a
kitchen
door.
E
E
Fun
outdoor
space
that
is
somewhere
else
on
the
building
but
I'm,
you
know
you
know
protectors
and
designer.
So.
B
F
A
few
things
that
might
help
as
we
move
forward
listening
to
the
conversation
as
staff,
one
is
there's
been
a
lot
of
conversation
about
the
size
scaling
masking
of
the
buildings
in
comparison
to
other
buildings
in
the
district.
So
it
might
be
helpful
for
the
applicant
like
for
you
to
bring
back
information
about
the
buildings
that
you're,
using
as
architectural
references
and
their
size
scaling
masking.
F
F
Streetscapes
and
and
streets
Great
Escape
renderings
of
the
building
in
context,
so
that
the
commission
can
see
how
it's
actually
going
to
look.
That
would
be.
You
know,
that's
something
that
people
in
the
past
have
have
given
and
has
been
really
helpful.
C
E
There
was
screening
involved.
It
was
part
of
an
overall
circulation
pattern
that
made
sense
it
has.
It
was
a
an
event
driven
building.
Also
so
I
think
that
if
you're
going
to
try
and
make
the
case
of
keeping
that
parking
it,
there
needs
to
be
a
case
made
if
you're
going
to
keep
it.
It's
not
going
to
be
a
default
I,
don't
think
approval
right
in
front
of
any
building.
D
H
Okay
and
another
piece
of
information
I'd
like
to
see
is
comparison
of
the
the
existing
building
at
first
place.
Each
state
is
actually
below
the
road
quite
a
bit,
so
you
know
how
much
and
a
new
one
will
have
to
be
much
higher
someone
higher
to
create
property
to
first
place,
I'd
like
to
see
some
in
the
navigation
showing
the
relationship
with
the
height
of
nuba
into
the
site.
You
know
existing
government
in
terms
of
the
ground.
H
G
H
B
B
F
It's
an
extension,
so
the
applicant
is
not
here
this
evening
because
there
have
been
no
design
changes
or
really
anything
with
the
proposed
project.
If
you
remember
correctly,
this
was
to
retain
and
improve
the
new
door.
They
added
to
the
quad
side
of
Olin
Library
during
the
the
pandemic
to
allow
for
diverse
circulation
in
the
building.
F
They
believed
they
were
going
to
complete
the
work
within
a
two-year
periods,
but
realized
that
they
needed
more
more
time
to
complete
that
higher
consultant
to
do
an
overall
building
assessment
and
I
believe
they're
planning
a
rehab
of
the
first
floor
of
the
building,
and
so
this
is
part
of
it.
So
they're
asking
for
another
two
years
to
complete
the
work
which
you
know.
If
the
commission
feels
as
reasonable.
F
H
F
F
During
the
2020
pandemic
still
going
on
Beyond
2025.,
they
installed
the
door
on
the
Arts
quad
side
of
the
building,
I
believe
two
or
three
Bays
beyond
the
corner.
It's
Poe
Plaza
to
add
another
way
to
enter
the
building,
to
allow
people
to
come
in
one
way
and
access
another.
The
proposal
was
to
keep
an
entrance
there,
but
make
it
more
proportional
to
the
other
window.
Openings,
add
a
concrete,
paved
patio
in
front
of
it
or
a
walkway
and
two
concrete
benches
on
either
side.
F
It
was
an
anodized
aluminum,
storefront
door
system,
and
the
conversation,
if
I
remember
correctly,
was
that
it's
a
non-contributing
building
in
the
historic
district-
and
this
is
in
it-
was
not
an
alteration
that
changed
or
substantially
changed
the
character
of
the
building
and
made
it
less
compatible
with
what
was
happening
in
the
experiences.
J
E
E
H
F
Yes,
and
that
was
the
entire
opening
would
become
blaze.
It
was
a
new
anodized,
aluminum
storefront
that
would
clean
up
that
exterior.
There
was
a
new
vestibule
that
they
were
going
to
build
on
the
interior
with
another
set
of
double
doors,
so
a
portion
of
the
cafe
space
and
like
the
reading
Lounge
area
would
be
taken
up
with
a
new
vestibule
and
a
new
oops.
F
Now
so,
if
you
believe
they
that,
if
if
you
can
agree
to
a
two-year
extension
of
their
certificate
of
appropriateness,
you
just
need
to
read
the
resolution
and
proving
it
this
evening.
If
you
feel
that
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
shouldn't
be
extended,
then
you.
B
E
H
C
H
Guess:
I'm
just
being
lazy
because
I'm
like
oh
well,
if
we
approve
your
once
I'm
sure,
why
not
extend
it,
but
that's
really
me
being
more,
not.
E
Also,
don't
feel
like
you
can
do
a
job
thinking
about
I
I,
the
the
project.
This
was
connected
in
my
mind,
so
the
project
that
they
had
really
soon
before
this
with
chasing
out
the
metal
and
then
shut
the
doors
and
I
needed
the
building
that
should
be
distributed
and
I
think
it
was
a
character
defining
feature,
even
if
not
it's
supposed
to
be
a
building.
So
that
was.
H
It's
such
a
symmetrical
building
on
the
end
of
the
quad
and
it's
kind
of
like
off
to
the
side
a
little
bit,
which
is
what
I
didn't
like
about
it,
but
you
voting
for
it
wasn't
a
programmatic
standpoint.
They
didn't
want
people
entering
the
stacks.
They
wanted.
The
next
thing
from
the
reading
areas,
significance.
F
If
you
we,
you
would
need
somebody
to
move
the
resolution
and
second,
the
resolution
which
the
landmarks
ordinance
requires
extensions
to
be.
In
writing.
We
have
to
receive
a
written
request
from
the
applicant
and
then
we
have
to
respond
with
our
written
agreement.
So
this
resolution
is
our
written
agreement
approving
the
extension.
So
we
would
need.
F
B
So
do
we
have
a
motion
to
extend
that
the
resolution
that
I
assume
you're
pruned
on
July
15th
2021.?
We
have
a
motion
extend
that
resolution.
Please.
I
H
J
H
H
B
F
So
this
is
just
another
reminder
that
presents
annual
preservation,
Awards
to
individuals
or
organizations
in
the
community
that
have
completed
a
successful
preservation
project
within
the
last
two.
C
F
You
can
think
of
any
I
know.
Steve
has
sent
with
you
and
we've
contacted
those
Property
Owners
I
suggested,
send.