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B
Public
hearings
will
be
held
by
the
ilpc
at
6
pm,
tuesday
june
21st
2022,
via
an
electronic
conference
conferencing
platform
zoom
as
permitted
by
legislation;
s
zero,
zero,
zero
one
and
a
four
zero
zero
zero
one
which
extends
virtual
access
to
public
meetings
granted
by
the
governor's
executive
order.
202
0.1,
at
which
time
the
commission
will
consider
the
following
applications
for
material
changes
and
alterations.
B
So
tonight
we
have
534
thurston
avenue,
cornell
heights
historic
district
proposal
to
remove
two
historic
steel
framed
skylights
on
the
north,
roof
slope,
210,
eddy
street,
east
hill,
historic
district
proposal
to
reconfigure
parking
spaces
along
the
south
property
line
and
construct
additional
parking
spaces
and
a
bios
well
and
314
west
state
street,
downtown
west
historic
district
proposal
to
enclose
the
front
yard
with
a
black
metal
fence.
B
So
all
interested
parties
will
be
given
the
opportunity
to
be
heard
respecting
these
applications.
So
we
will
be
starting
with
the
534
thurston
avenue,
cornell
heights
historic
district
removal
of
two
historic
steel
frame.
Skylights.
B
Good
good!
So
if
you
could
give
us
a
a
summary
of
what
you're
proposing
to
do.
C
Sure
am
I
yeah.
Let
me
stare
my
screen
quickly
too,
so
I
was
here
back
in
april.
We
proposed,
oh
I'm,
sorry,
trying
to
find.
We
proposed
the
full
plate,
roof
replacement
at
534
thurston,
and
we
had
approval
kind
of
later
on,
as
we're
finishing
up
design
documents.
We
realized
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
potentially
re-roof
properly,
underneath
the
skylights
and
and
kind
of
remove
them
entirely.
C
They
have
a
history
of
it,
used
leaking
and
condensation
they're
right
over
two
back
stairwells
and
in
our
opinion
they
they
haven't.
They
don't
add
a
tons
of
the
buildings,
so
we
thought
it
was
worth
asking
if
we
could
get
rid
of
them
as
part
of
the
replacement.
So
you
could
see.
I
have
these
photos
as
part
of
the
plans
they
were
original
to
the
building.
I
found
them
in
the
original
building
plans
from
1930,
but
but
they
they
seem
utilitarian
and
nature.
C
C
C
Yeah,
so
it's
the
north
facade,
it
faces
the
parking
lot.
So
it's
the
rear
of
the
building,
although
it
is
still
facing
weight
as
the
building
itself
faces
thurston,
but
it's
visible
from
way
to
okay.
D
I
really
appreciate
that
you
went
back
and
looked
at
the
original
architecturals
when,
when
I
read
the
materials
that
they
were
original,
I
was
frankly
quite
surprised.
That's
really
unusual
and
so
yeah,
that's
just
not
typically
seen.
I
I
think
it's
a
really
interesting
feature,
but
I
can
also
skylights
historically
are
not
typically.
Typically,
they
have
not
functioned
well,
given
the
low
visibility
of
them.
D
I
did
not
see
a
significant
issue.
I
mean
I
think
it's
really
unfortunate
to
lose
them
just
because
they
are
original,
but
I
also
don't
think
that
they
are
highly
visible
from
the
public
right-of-way.
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
noticeable
really
to
anybody
that
they're
gone.
D
I
think
it'd
be
great
if
you
saved
them
on
the
property
in
case
anybody
in
the
future
wanted
to
add
them
back
in,
but
I
didn't
have.
I
did
not
have
particular
concern
about
their
removal.
B
So
in
in
removing
these
skylights,
then
you're
just
you're
just
going
to
re-slate
over
that
entire
area.
C
B
Right
and
I
know
I've
dealt
with
skylights
on
my
own
many
times,
and
it's
true
that
frequently
they
leak
or
do
cause
other
problems,
so
it
would
be
if
they
are
going.
If
you
are
running
into
those
kind
of
problems,
this
would
be
the
time
to
resolve
it,
and
I
guess
removing
and
putting
the
slate
over
the
entire
area
would
be
a
solution.
I
could
accept.
D
I
think
they're.
For
me
it
was
really
they're.
Just
they're
low
visibility,
they're
not
well
really
interesting.
They
are
not
so
character.
Defining
on
the
building
that
the
buildings
that
to
me
gonna
lose.
You
know
significant
architectural
integrity
by
their
absence,
so.
B
G
Two
skylights
are
sort
of
everything
else
in
the
building
is
decorative
and
they're
sort
of
whatever's,
the
opposite
of
decorative
they're,
sort
of
functional
or
just
providing
light,
but
not
really
providing
joy.
It
is
interesting
to
see
the
the
original
architecture.
Elevation
had
some
interest.
It
seems
like
all
the
windows
are
bigger
and
there
were
crenellations
on
that
horizontal
part,
which
would
have
been
really
nice,
so
it
seems
like
the
building
already
lost
it.
Some
of
its
nice
features
during
the
original
construction.
C
Yeah,
I
actually
I
know
during
the
original
building
this.
This
rectangle
part
was
actually
like
a
battlement
that
had
spots
on
top
too,
but
that
I
think
it
was
depression,
error
constructed
and
they
must
have
been
cut.
D
B
Okay,
is
there
anybody
out
there
who
wanted
to
make
comments
concerning
this
application.
A
B
B
G
I
want
to
just
say:
one
of
the
justifications
for
removing
them
was
that
the
current
skylights
have
condensation,
which
leaks
down
on
the
stairs
and
makes
them
slippery,
but
wouldn't
they
knew
insulated
glass
skylight
not
have
that
problem.
Therefore,
I
I
challenge
that
justification,
as
as
one
of
the
reasons
for
removal.
C
C
H
D
D
Okay,
so
this
refers
to
the
property
at
522
to
534
thurston
avenue,
whereas
the
set
forth
in
section
228
of
the
municipal
dashboard.
Sorry,
my
babysitter's
taken.
D
Section
228.4,
the
municipal
code,
an
application
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
dated
may
18.
2022
was
submitted
for
review
to
the
ethical
landmarks
preservation
commission
by
property
owner
nicholas
finnelli
on
behalf
of
property
owner
cornell
university
data
zetas,
I
don't
is
it
psy?
I
actually
don't
know
how
to
read
this
greek
one.
Thank
you,
including
the
following
one,
two
narratives
respectfully
titled
description
of
proposed
changes
and
reasons
for
changes.
Two
22
sheets
of
architectural
drawings
prepared
by
labella,
associates
dated,
may
12
2022
entitled
architectural
cover
sheet.
D
Note:
symbols
and
abbreviations
site
plan,
roof
demolition
plan,
third
floor
plan,
existing
floor
plan,
existing
conditions,
photos,
existing
condition,
photos,
roof
plan,
re-roofing
plan,
existing
exterior
elevations,
exterior
elevations,
exterior
elevations,
exterior
elevations,
building
sections,
building,
sections,
building,
sections,
detail,
details,
details,
details
and,
whereas
the
applicant
has
provided
sufficient
documentation
and
information
to
evaluate
impacts
of
the
proposal
on
the
subject,
property
and
resolve
properties.
D
And
then
resolve
that
the
ilpc
has
made
the
following
findings
of
fact
concerning
the
property
in
the
proposal
as
identified
in
the
city
of
ithaca's
cornell
heights,
historic
district,
summary
statement,
the
period
of
significance
for
the
area
now
known
as
the
cornell
heights.
Historic
district
is
1898
to
1937..
D
The
property
is
a
contributing
element
of
the
cornell
heights,
historic
district
and
then
the
boiler
plate
on
how
the
ilpc
determines
that
proposed
exterior
work
would
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
effect
on
the
aesthetic,
historical
or
architectural
significance
and
value
of
either
landmark
or
if
the
improvement
is
within
a
district
of
the
neighboring
improvements
in
such
district,
and
we
are
going
to
be
considering
tonight.
D
The
following
principles
and
standards
principle
number
two:
the
historic
features
of
a
property
located
within
and
contributing
to
the
significance
of
an
historic
district
shall
be
altered
as
little
as
possible,
and
any
alterations
made
shall
be
compatible
with
both
the
historic
character
of
the
individual
property
and
the
character
of
the
district
as
a
whole
standard
number,
two,
the
historic
character
of
a
property,
will
be
retained
and
preserved.
The
removal
of
distinctive
materials
or
alterations
or
of
features
and
spaces
that
characterize
the
property
will
be
avoided.
D
Standard
number,
nine
new
additions,
exterior
alterations
or
related
new
construction
shall
not
destroy
historic
materials
that
characterize
the
property.
The
new
work
shall
be
differentiated
from
the
old
and
shall
be
compatible
with
the
massing
size,
scale
and
architectural
features
to
protect
the
historic
integrity
of
the
property
in
its
environment.
D
With
respect
to
principle,
number
two
standard
number
two
and
standard
number:
nine:
the
proposed
removal
of
the
skylights
will
remove
distinctive
materials,
but
will
not
alter
features
and
spaces
that
characterize
the
property
resolve
that,
based
on
the
finding
set
forth
above
the
proposal
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
effect
on
the
aesthetic,
historical
or
architectural
significance
of
the
cornell
heights.
Historic
district,
as
set
forth
in
section
228-6
and
be
it
further
resolved.
D
The
ethical
landmarks
preservation
commission
determines
that
the
proposal
meets
criteria
for
approval
under
section
228-6
of
the
municipal
code
and
be
it
further
resolved.
The
ilpc
approves
the
application
for
certificate
of
appropriateness
on
the
condition
that
the
two
skylights
are
saved
on
site
and
saved
and
preserved
on
site.
Whatever
we
standard
say.
H
B
Next,
we
have
210
eddie
street
east
hill,
historic
district
proposal
to
reconfigure
parking
spaces
along
the
south
property
line
and
construct
additional
parking
spaces
and
a
bios.
Well,
so
would
we
have
to
discuss
this.
H
Yeah,
I
certainly
it
certainly
sounds
as
if
it
makes
sense
to
to
get
in
touch
with
people
at
significant
elements
and
to
to
get
a
contractor
there
to
take
a
look
at
this
and
give
us
guidance.
Based
on
your
comments.
So
yeah
absolutely.
D
We
have
my
house
has
a
it's.
Almost
a
full-length
pane
of
glass
is.
B
Okay,
so
if
you
could
give
us
a
summary
of
what's
being
proposed,.
I
We're
proposing
a
parking
lot
design
in
back
of
210,
which
is
a
building
that
has
three
parking
spaces
at
the
moment
or
is
agreed
to
as
a
three
parking
space
building.
I
We
want
to
add
two
total,
so
that's
one
and
the
other
is
the
marginally,
but
the
barn
to
the
side
is
214
has
three
unrelated
adults
there
and
at
the
moment,
two
parking
spaces.
We
want
a
third
there,
which
is
on
210.
Both
properties
are
owned
by
the
same
owner.
I
The
concern
we
had
was
over
210
having
cars
on
the
side
of
the
building
invisible
from
the
street.
We
want
to
put
it
in
back
of
the
house
and
at
a
grade
that
is
lower
than
the
street
since
it
slopes
that
way.
I
Other
things
to
note
is
say
lawn
to
the
east,
I'm
sorry
to
the
north
and
that
lawn
would
have
two
trees
conifers.
We
haven't
quite
figured
out
what
kind
and
a
buffer
of
vegetation
that
includes
columnar
oak
trees
on
the
south
side
of
that
property.
I
D
I
Wasn't
approved
previously
were
two
cars
that
were
erroneously
parking
or
being
parked
there
by
the
students
and
a
third
space
for
the
barn.
That
was,
let's
say,
parked
the
wrong
way,
because
we
don't
want
it
to
splay
out.
B
D
The
proper
property
at
that
point
had
recently
changed
hands.
If
I
recall
it
was
a
new,
it
was
new
ownership
and
we
did
talk
about
it
in
the
time.
The
preservation
commission
was
concerned
about
the
further
deterioration
of
the
rear
portions
on
each
on
in
the
east
historic
district
because
of
the
slopes
and
because
the
that
parking
and
asphalt
at
the
time,
that's
what
we
talked
about.
D
I
remember
parking
in
asphalt
is
not
ideal
for
being
taken
over
as
landscape,
and
then
I
believe
at
that
point
we
had
neighbors
who
were
concerned
about
runoff
and
it
could
be
a
different
property,
but
I
know
we've
had
neighbors
in
the
east
still,
so
I
can't
can't
vouch
that
it
was
for
sure
this
one,
but
we
have
had
neighbors
in
the
east
hill
who
are
worried
who
have
been
worried
about
water
flow
when
we
get
these
rapid
rain
events
coming
off
of
flat
asphalt
services.
So
we
definitely
discussed
it
in
relationship
to
this
property.
I
I
I
have
two
questions
recently
to
me
means
two
three
years:
five
years,
how
many
years
I've
only
been
involved
with
this
thing
for
two
and
a
half
three
years,
definitely
three
years
and
and
in
those
three
years
those
properties
were
owned
by
the
hakiopoulos's
folks
known
as
matula's
houses,.
D
D
B
A
All
right,
so
this
is
an
aerial
I
believe
it's
a
2021
ariel
of
210,
eddy
and
214
eddy,
and
you
can
see
the
parking
area
at
214.80.
This
is
the
barn,
and
this
is
the
parking
area
for
214
eddie
to
ted
eddie
and
the
parking
area
that
we're
talking
tonight.
The
application
in
lieu
of
a
retroactive
request
is
this
parking
area
in
the
rear
of
the
property.
B
I
Okay,
in
other
words,
it'll
be
lawn
and
not
payment
of
any
sort,
including
the
item
for
dot
item
4,
which
is
a
heavy
gravel
with
fines.
I
I
This
is
the
the
cars
that
we
are
saying
well
if
the
owner
had
his
sway.
This
is
what
he
would
like,
and
then
I
show
another
drawing
and
that's
what
we're
proposing
at
this
point:
okay,
with
with
lawn
on
the
places
where
there
are
parking
spaces
right
now,
the
three
down
there.
Yes,
but
if
I
could
go
back
something
about
drainage
and
owners
being
concerned
and
so
on.
We
have
a
great
big,
ditch
to
the
left.
That
was
done
as
part
of
the
we
called
it
bioswale.
I
But
it's
it's
really
a
a
a
catch
basin
of
sorts
for
the
drainage
of
214
driveway
coming
down,
because
the
slope
is
actually
do
to
the
left,
as
in
do
west
and
south
the.
Where
you
see
the
lawn
is
actually
coming
down.
If
we
could
see
brian,
the
original
drawing
you'll
see
the
topography
showing
where
those
those
lines
are
because
these
are
masked
out
by
the
green.
I
This
is
an
answer
to
the
drainage
element
that
was
discussed.
You
see
how
it's
coming
down
from
that
area.
I
It
was
designed
to
allow
this
catch
basin
to
have
both
what's
coming
down
on
214
and
what's
coming
down
on.
I
That
indicated
the
well
measured
drawings,
but
it's
scale
drawings,
to
show
the
type
of
trees
that
we
had
for
the
buffer,
as
well
as
the
topography
that
has
a
cut
on
existing
and
fill
with
the
same
amount
of
cut
in
fill
so
to
speak.
I
There
are
some
gabians
with
stone
in
it
at
the
present
time
in
the
middle,
those
will
be
removed
and
some,
but
not
all
of
that
material
will
be
used
for
the
retaining
wall
on
the
left
beyond
the
ditch,
because
there
is
a
depression
right
there
and
those
trees
look
like
they're
on
the
property.
In
reality,
they
are
not
on
the
property
they're
on
the
property
to
the
west.
B
I
It's
slowed
down
and
it
stays
there
because
there's
also
drainage
for
the
barn
itself.
It's
just
a
big
dutch
that
has
clay
natural
clay.
That's
there
in
stone!
There's
this
we're
on
shale.
If
we
go,
I
want
to
say
8
to
10
feet
or
so,
and
but
between
that
surface
and
below
is
a
layer
of
clay
that
seems
to
be
a
sealer
there
had
to
answer
you,
the
the
drainage
should
not
go
beyond
the
ditch,
because
the
ditch
itself
is
just
a
catch
basin.
I
It's
number
twos
and
the
clay
liner
allows
for
that
sort
of
retainage
of
the
surface
water.
G
J
I
Five-Ish
feet
and
then
the
perimeter
was
lined
with
some
of
the
clay
that
was
there
and
then
number
twos
were
placed
so
much
so
that
someone
decided
they
were
going
to
park
on
it
and
they
got
stuck
because,
of
course,
you
couldn't
go
very
far.
I
If
you
have
a
ditch
filled
with
stones,
so
they
got
stuck
it's
deep
to
answer
you
steve,
I
I
haven't
seen,
but
it's
been
a
while,
and
I
I
I'm
waiting
for
the
day
where
we
see
five
inches
in
a
half
hour,
or
so
just
a
torrential
rain
and
see
how
that
is,
is
is
working
but
the
the
drainage
that
we
have
has
not
gone
beyond
the
property
line
to
the
present.
I
I
I
believe
what
was
done
without
my
even
understanding,
because
I
wasn't
actually
employed
for
210
I
was
employed
for
214
design
is
that
they
they
brought
in
what
is
commonly
referred
to
as
dot
item
four,
which
is
a
gravel
that
can
be
compacted
by
its
own
because
of
the
fines
that
or
the
smaller
gravel
that
comes
with
it
and
the
end
result
is
not
much
grows
on
it,
because
it's
so
compacted.
I
E
So,
can
I
ask
a
question:
how
many
parking
spots
will
there
be
for
the
property
once
it's
approved.
I
Five
well,
the
two
properties
were
counted
as
14
parking
spaces.
E
My
recollection,
I
think,
back
when
we
were
looking
at
this
project,
was
to
not
have
so
much
parking
at
that
site
just
because
of
the
amount
of
space,
certainly
not
three
cars
for
the
little
barn
and
the
lawn
area
that
was
there
originally
was
far
larger
than
what
you
have
here.
But
it
just
seems
like
there's
a
lot
of
cars
there
when
we-
and
I
wonder
if
we
could
look
it
up
to
see
what
we
actually
approved,
what
we
said
would
be
an
appropriate
amount
of
parking
for
that
size.
Space.
I
E
A
Right,
okay,
so
just
just
a
quick
summary
of
my
understanding
of
what
is
what
are
the
permitted
parking
spaces
and
the
ones
that
are
an
additional
ask.
Now
we
advertised
for-
or
we
created
a
public
notice
for
210,
so
we're
looking
at
the
parking
for
210
if
additional
review
is
required
for
the
parking
spaces
at
214
that
will
come
back
to
the
commission,
so
at
2
10
eddy
street
there
there
is
a
three-car
requirement
for
parking
there
for
the
for
the
single-family
home
on
the
site.
A
So
with
the
existing
parking
as
permitted
in
2014,
there
are
three
parking
spaces
there.
The
two
additional
ones
in
the
and
the
proposal
would
be
additional
parking
spaces
at
214
eddy
street.
A
The
five
parking
spaces
in
the
upper
parking
lot
are
permitted,
the
other
additional
cars,
six
seven
and
eight
and
nine
are
all
additional
parking,
but
it
may
be
parking
on
established
paved
area.
So
it's!
C
F
F
I
I
can
explain
aesthetically
if
that's
okay,
brian
we
yours
truly
and
others-
do
not
want
to
see
tin
metal
to
the
side
of
a
building.
We
want
to
see
it
away
from
what
we
can
see
from
the
street.
That's
one
and
the
other
is
the
chaotic
element
of
diagonal
parking
into
something.
That's
made
to
be
parking
rather
than
actually
designed
to
be
parking
in
the
side
of
the
building.
It
is
on
a
given
day.
You'll
see
these
cars
parked
all
over
the
place.
I
I
But
the
answer
to
you,
mr
smith,
is
that
we
don't
want
to
see
metal
the
side
of
the
building.
If
there's
any
metal,
it
should
be
away
from
the
visual
impact
of
that
sloping
down
eddie
street.
B
So
right
now
we're
not
considering
anything
related
to
looking
at
this
diagram
that
was
given
to
us
s102
we're
not
looking
at
all
at
space
number,
six,
seven
or
eight
that
would
be
associated
with
one
of
the
314.
Is
it
we're
only
looking
at
so
all
these
spaces
associated
with
the
upper
part
of
that
drawing
which
would
be
space
number
six,
seven
and
eight
we're
not
considering
that
right
now
or
nine?
B
A
That
is,
that
is
correct.
I
would
say
that
that
parking
space
number
nine
should
be
considered
tonight,
because
that
is
on
210
eddy
street,
that
that
parcel,
but
the
parking
spaces
at
214
we're
still.
A
We
planning,
staff
and
and
the
architect
are
looking
at
those
parking
spaces
and
determining
what
paved
area
was
there
before
the
cars
arrived
and
if
there
was
if
there
was
parking,
if
there
was
paved
area
for
that
parking
historically,
then
there
there,
then
it
becomes
a
a
zoning
and
site
plan
approval
issue,
because
we
we
we
regulate
the
parking,
we
don't
regulate
the
cars.
So
if
the,
if
the
paving
was
there,
our
purview
was
over
the
paving
not
what
the
paving
is
being
used
for.
B
Now,
of
course,
going
back
and
looking
at
that
backyard,
now
it's
just
dumped
with
gravel,
I
mean
before
it
used
to
be
a
garden.
Now
it's
just
filled
with
gravel
when,
if
this
is
approved,
we're
going
to
find
lawn
once
again
at
the
at
the
up
uphill
side
of
this
parcel,
that's
going
to
be
restored
right
now,
it's
all
gravel
and
pretty
messy
and
we're
going
to
see
all
this
parking
at
the
side
of
the
building.
That's
all
going
to
disappear.
B
I
If
I
can
say
this
ed,
that's
correct
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
a
restore
lawn,
a
certain
portion
of
in
the
back
with
two
buffer
trees,
so
to
speak,
conifers
in
back
and
then
another
buffer
at
the
bottom,
which
will
be
shrub
in
those
columnar.
I
At
this
point,
the
rope,
the
lawn
itself
and
the
side
of
the
building
will
be
restored
to
lawn
no
no
pavement
other
than
the
sidewalk
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
sidewalk
that
is
sometimes
concrete
and
sometimes
stone,
but
we're
not
really
associating
ourselves
other
than
saying
it's
going
to
be
lawn
and
by
the
way
there
will
be
a
tree
here.
B
G
Extends
into
that
area
from
the
214
driveway
presently.
I
Oh,
that's
that's
steven.
Sorry,
sorry
steven,
the
the
driveway
on
214
had
asphalt,
but
not
the
extent
to
which
it
got
resurfaced
right
now
it's
playing
out,
and
you
can
see
that
that
in
that
original
photo
that
we
got
from
the
planning
office.
I
Okay,
we
don't
want
it
to
play
that
way,
because
once
again
we
don't
want
to
see
this
tin
in
front
of
the
the
new
barn
with
three
bedroom
situation
there.
D
Okay,
so
I
guess
I
would
like
to
have
more
understanding
in
2014,
the
board
was
okay
with
three
parking
spaces
and
the-
and
you
know-
and
I
understand
that
our
our
purview
is
not
over
the
parking
spaces,
it's
over
the
amount
of
hardscape,
but
we
were
okay
with
the
amount
of
hardscape
for
three
parking
spaces.
D
I'd
like
to
understand
why
there's
a
new
need
for
an
increase
in
the
spaces
to
six,
because
that's
what
would
be
on
this
property.
Under
this
current
proposal
and
frankly,
we
were
very
clear
in
2014
with
the
property
owner
that
we
were
not
approving
more
than
that
the
space
for
those
three
cars,
and
it's
deeply
disturbing
to
me
that
the
property
owner,
knowing
that
willingly
altered
the
property
without
approval
and
is
now
asking
us
essentially
to
accept
an
offer
that
we
wouldn't
have
accepted
most
likely
in
2014..
D
G
I
speak
to
that.
The
owner
after
his
having
submitted
some
very
poor
drawings,
hired
brian
buttner
design,
associates
whatever
design
art
design.
Research
associates.
Brian
buttner,
who
did
two
series
of
drawings
for
this
project,
sewing
retaining
walls
and
plantings
and
walkways
and
parking.
G
I
G
I
Okay,
well,
I
I
was
saying
to
brian
before
we
could
just
leave
it
as
this
and
restore
it
to
lawn
and
have
the
cars
to
the
side
of
the
building.
I
don't
see
what
you'll
gain
out
of
it,
but
we'll
leave
it.
That
way
will
be
just
three
parking
spaces
as
allowed
and
we
will
restore
the
rear
to
lawn.
G
I
I
No,
I
was
not
that
was
before
my
time
when
I,
when
I
arrived
at
this
property,
those
gabiens
were
there,
and
so
were
the
ones
to
the
north,
which
is
214..
What
was
not.
There
was
the
barn
that
we
moved
five
feet
to
the
east
and
raised
it.
Two
feet
frame
included
up
because
of
drainage.
F
I
They'll
be
fine
but
they're
all
suvs,
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
make
sure
that
when
these
tenants
are
here
at
least
they
don't
create
more
havoc
for
the
sort
of
conditions
that
are
coming
up
in
on
eddie
street
industry
cannot
be
parked
on
when,
when
the
students
are
out
or
well,
I
I
that
that's
a
little
strong
it
it's
very
difficult
to
find
parking
spaces
even
for
the
residents
of
eddie
street.
B
G
Depicted
on
s102
would
those
10
11,
12,
13
and
14
spots
be
able
to
turn
around
and
come
out
forward.
It
doesn't
seem
like
there's
enough
area
behind
access
for
them
to
actually
turn
turn
around
and
come
back
out
or
or
would
they
be
backing
out
to
the
street.
I
Well,
it's
even
it's
similar
to
214.
Those
also
have
fairly
tight
quarters,
but
they
seem
to
manage.
It
is
tighter
on
this
side,
but
we
didn't
want
to
go
into
the
the
vegetation,
the
the
lawn
area.
We
want
to
stop
there.
So
if
you
took
the
distance
between
what
is
shown
as
hardscape
on
those
10
to
14
and
then
compare
it
to
one
in
five
and
in
the
back,
it
is
similar.
Not
only
is
that
similar,
there
is
an
easement
on
the
north
that
there
is
none
here.
I
I
B
J
Okay,
I'm
on
yes,
I
am
theresa
alt!
No
excuse
me,
I
think
I
have
to
get
rid
of.
I
can't
start
yet.
I
have
to
get
rid
of
my.
J
Now:
okay,
I'm
theresa
alt
speaking
also
for
my
husband,
wales
brown.
We
live
at
206,
eddy
street
next
door.
J
The
owners
of
the
three
houses
at
210
and
214
want
to
increase
off
street
parking
from
11
to
14
spaces
as
the
next
door
neighbors
at
206.
We
object
to
this
plan.
We
used
to
see
flour
and
vegetable
gardens
next
door.
Now
we
see
parked
cars
in
both
the
authorized
three
side
yard
spaces,
and
I
don't
see
any
evidence
that
that
driveway
is
going
to
go
away
and
on
the
recent
gravel
lot
at
the
back,
that
they
now
want
to
pave.
They
claim
a
bioswale.
J
I
see
only
a
gravel
pit.
They
refer
to
constructing
it,
a
ditch
with
what
mosquitoes
we
consider
off-street
parking
to
be
inappropriate
in
a
historic
district.
When
these
houses
were
built
in
the
1870s
there
were
no
cars,
people
walked
used,
horses
and
buggies
or
later
rode
the
trolleys
that
ran
on
eddie
street.
The
trolleys
are
gone,
but
there
are
frequent
buses
on
college
avenue.
J
In
addition,
more
pavement,
probably
impervious
surfaces,
will
only
add
to
the
increasing
problem
of
runoff,
causing
flooding
downtown,
perhaps
damaging
other
historic
buildings.
The
proposal
is
environmentally
unsound.
We
should
be
reducing
the
amount
of
off
street
parking
as
far
as
the
city's
needs
are
concerned.
It
is
very
good
if
more
people
live
where
they
can
walk
to
jobs
or
studies
at
cornell.
J
We
were
supportive
when
the
unused
carriage
house
next
door
was
rebuilt
to
house
new
neighbors.
We
objected
to
the
additional
parked
cars.
We
had
to
look
at
cars
that
were
never
adequately
screened
from
the
street.
Instead
of
bushes,
only
some
ornamental
grasses
were
planted
and
the
existing
hedge
was
removed,
but
that's
about
the
view
from
the
street
and
not
from
our
house.
H
E
I
think
we
talked
about
those
things
also
when
we
discussed
this
project
way
back.
When
and
personally,
I
won't
wouldn't
vote
for
more
adding
more
cars.
I
think
they
need
to
go
back.
My
personal
opinion
is
that
they
need
to
do
what
they
had
said.
They
were
going
to
do
when
we
approved
the
project
as
it
was
before,
adding
the
well
maintaining,
but
now
it's
going
to
have
to
be
adding
the
lawn
and
and
plantings
and
everything,
but
I
would
I
wouldn't
vote
for
additional
parking.
C
B
I
mean
my
main
concern
is
just
by
memory
which
could
be
inaccurate,
but
I
was
we
did
not
approve
doing
what
has
happened
now
in
the
backyard.
A
matter
of
fact,
I
think
people
express
their
lack
of
support
for
that,
and
so
now
here
we
have
a
situation
where
the
owner
has
gotten
themselves
or
themselves
into
trouble
because
they
move
forward
on
something
that
should
not
have
been
moved
forward,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
now
making
a
proposal
to
some
somewhat
similar
granted.
B
But
in
fact
the
back
lawn
area
that
was
supposedly
going
to
be
protected
has
pretty
much
been
destroyed
at
this
stage,
and
I
you
know
it
doesn't
seem
to
reflect
much
respect
for
the
ilpc
when
in
fact,
an
owner
does
that,
but
it's
pretty
clear
that
we
indicated
what
we
felt
about
that
and
did
not
approve
parking
at
that
time
in
the
backyard,
and
yet
here
it
is
and
so
yeah.
That
does
not
feel
very,
very
positive
for
me,
and
I
find
it
hard
to
now
support
this
project.
G
We
discussed
this
project
in
june,
2014
august,
2014
september,
2014,
november
2014
and
then
march
2015.,
so
we
reviewed
it
by
at
least
five
times
with
the
owners
and-
and
I
think
we
made
our
views
pretty
well
known
on
it,
and
theoretically
we
had
a
compromise
that
they
would
get
three
places,
that
there
are
three
spaces
that
were
required
on
the
south
and
maintain
these.
They
said
they
would
maintain
the
beautiful
gardens
in
the
back.
Well
that
didn't
happen.
G
So
we
already
wasted
a
lot
of
time
on
this
and
now
we're
at
being
asked
to
waste
more
time.
That's
my
opinion.
B
Okay,
what
do
we
do
at
this
point?
Read
the
resolution
brian,
which
we
it's
kind
of
obvious,
where
this
is
going.
What
should
we
do.
A
So,
yes,
I
think
if,
if
all
commission
members
are
in
agreement,
you
should
read
the
resolution
and
know
that
a
denial
of
the
application
will
result
in
a
requirement
to
restore
the
rear
yard,
to
its
previous
condition.
B
All
right
can
we
have
a
volunteer
to
read
resolution.
A
The
three
parking
spaces
that
were
permitted
on
the
south
elevation
of
the
building
will
be
restored
to
their
as
a
pre-work
condition,
so
that
is,
that
would
be
part
of
this
proposal
or
part
of
the
denial
of
this
proposal
as
well.
B
I'll
take
silence
as
a
yes.
So
do
you
have
a
volunteer
to
read
resolution
rb,
please
volunteer.
E
I
probably
will
need
help.
I
probably
will
need
to
help
okay,
whereas
210
a
street
is
located
in
the
east
hill.
Historic
district
is
designated
under
two
sections.
H
A
E
Okay,
so
the
applicant
has
provided
sufficient
documentation
and
information
to
evaluate
the
impacts
of
the
proposal
on
the
subject,
property
and
surrounding
properties,
and
resolve
that
the
findings
of
the
fact
of
the
fact
concerning
the
property
and
the
proposal
and
in
consideration
of
all
the
approvals
of
proposals
for
alterations,
the
following
principles
and
standards
have
been
addressed.
Principle
2
has
been
addressed
principle
3
new
construction
located
within
a
historic
district
shall
be
compatible
with
the
historic
character
of
the
district
within
which
it
is
located.
E
Standard.
Two
we
discussed
standard
nine,
we
discussed
standard,
10,
new
editions
and
adjacent
or
related
new
construction
shall
be
undertaken
in
such
a
manner
that,
if
removed
in
the
future,
the
identical
the
essential
form
and
integrity
of
the
historic
property
and
its
environment
would
be
unimpaired.
E
C
E
And
will
alter
features
and
spaces
that
characterize
the
property,
with
respect
to
principle,
number
two
principle:
number
three
and
standard
number:
nine,
with
the
addition
of
the
proposed
space,
the
parking
area
is
not
compatible
with
the
mass
is
not
is
that
correct
is
not
compatible
with
the
massing
state,
size,
scale
and
architectural
features
of
the
property
and
in
its
environment.
With
respect
to
standard
number
10,
the
proposed
parking
space.
E
Adverse
effect
on
the
aesthetic,
historical
or
architectural
significance
of
the
property
in
east
hill,
historic
district
has
set
forth
section
2
to
8-6,
and
we
have
further
resolved
that
the
land
rise
preservation
committee
commission
determines.
The
proposal,
does
not
meet
criteria
for
approval
under
section
228-6
of
the
municipal
code
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
ilpc
denies
the
application
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
A
It's
not
it's
not
customary
to
add
a
condition
to
a
denial.
What
I
would
encourage
the
commission
to
consider
is
adding
language
about
how
the
parking
area
is
not
compatible.
We
can.
We
can
use
the
reasoning
that
was
used
in
the
past
for
the
decision,
but
if
there
are
specific
reasons
why
this
parking
proposal
is
not
compatible
with
the
historic
property
in
the
historic
district,
they
should
be
noted
in
the
resolution.
A
B
D
D
I
don't
think
that
there's
the
board
in
2014
was
worried
about
the
precedent
of
approving
the
hardscaping
of
rear
portions
of
properties,
because
of
of
you
know
trying
to
balance
the
fact
that
these
buildings
are
being
used
for
new
purposes
and
they
were
originally
intended,
which
is
fine,
but
that
the
compatibility
within
the
neighborhood
still
needs
to
be
retained.
There
are
concerns
they
have.
D
There
have
been
concerns,
and
I
think
there
continue
to
to
be
concerned
about
runoff
and
the
alterations
of
these
properties
and
the
impacts
on
surrounding
properties
bioswells
or
not,
because
it
wasn't
approved.
D
C
B
All
right
do
we
have
a
second
concerning
the
proposal.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
caitlyn
all
right.
If
you're
voting,
if
you
put
your
hand
up,
you
are
agreeing
with
the
resolution
as
read,
plus
the
added
features
at
the
end
and
and
the
vote
is
denying
the
request
of
additional
parking
so
on
all
of
those
who
accept
that,
please
put
your
hands
up.
B
I
I
wish
you
luck
with
other
conditions
that
come
across
because
all
of
the
properties
to
the
north
have
such
parking
spaces
that
aren't
even
designed,
and
there
will
be
some
discussions
about
how
they're
existing
I.
I
maintain
that
if
you
make
a
resolution,
you
should
be
fair
to
all
not
just
to
some.
B
So
do
we
have
somebody
to
present
religious
nation.
A
We
do
we
have
john
perry,
the
executive
director
of
southern
tier
aids
program,
the
property
owner
with
us
tonight
to
discuss
the
project.
C
K
I
can
I
can
give
you
a
very
simple
summary
previously.
K
I
don't
know
if
this
is
in
the
packet,
but
previously
we
we
placed
a
fence
across
the
driveway
of
the
property,
because
during
the
nighttime
hours,
people
were
using
the
back
of
the
property
for
well,
the
partying,
I
guess,
is
probably
the
most
succinct
way
to
put
it
that
was
understandably
disturbing
to
the
neighbors
and
so
at
the
at
the
neighbor's
request,
and
because
we
thought
it
was
a
good
idea
as
well
and
wanted
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
K
We
placed
a
fence
across
the
driveway,
with
this
committee's
permission
that
solved
the
problem
in
the
rear
of
the
building.
However,
then
the
problem
moved
during
the
night
time,
hours
to
the
front
porch
and
the
front
yard,
and
what
we
have
seen
recently
is
that
this
myself
has
been
disturbing.
There's
been
a
lot
of
garbage
left
in
the
front
yard
that
has
to
be
picked
up
by
either
myself
or
my
staff
when
we
come
in
the
mornings.
K
The
paint
job
that
we
paid
dearly
for
on
this
beautiful
old
home
has
been
severely
disgrace,
degraded
by
the
amount
of
traffic
and
use
on
the
front
porch,
and
recently
we
had
a
fire
in
the
corner
of
the
porch
and
I've
included
some
photos
in
the
packet
there.
Somebody
was
on
the
porch
at
night
and
they
were
burning
some
candles
and
they
left
those
candles
unattended
that
resulted
in
a
fire.
We
were
very
fortunate,
the
good
folks
at
the
fire
department
across
the
street.
K
K
So,
given
the
damage,
obviously
I'd
like
to
repair
the
fire
damage,
I
would
like
to
repaint
the
porch
to
freshen
it
up,
but
I
do
not
want
to
do
all
of
that
work
without
fencing
off
the
front.
Porch
and
the
yard
so
that
they
will
not
be
used
at
night
like
this,
and
so
we
are
proposing
to
fence
in
the
the
front
yard
and
the
porch,
with
a
locking
gate
at
the
sidewalk
so
number
one
that
we
can
stop.
That
can
stop
being
garbage.
K
You
know
collected
in
the
front
yard
every
day
that
we
can
stop
having
gatherings
there
at
night
and
that
hopefully,
when
we
paint
and
repair
the
porch
this
time
it
will
stay
painted
and
repaired.
B
B
Okay-
and
it
seems
like
a
very
necessary
defensive,
move
to
protect
this
historic
building.
At
this
point
I
mean
the
fence
is
something
that
can
be
removed
at
some
future
time.
D
K
D
D
Because,
because
to
ed's
point
that
it's
removable
in
the
future,
so
you
or
any
future
property
owner
choose
to
do
it.
It
can
be
removed
without
any
impairment
to
the
historic
resource
and
clearly,
thank
goodness
that
the
fire
was
caught.
I'm
so
grateful
that
somebody
saw
it
and
they
were
able
to
take
care
of
it,
because
you've
done
a
very
good
job
taking
care
of
the
building.
D
I
know
it's
expensive
to
maintain
because
of
the
age
of
it,
and
so
I'm
in
favor
of
approving
a
fence
that's
compatible
with
just
to
confirm
it
is
compatible
with
the
fence
that
you
already
have.
Is
that
correct.
K
It
is
we
made
that
very
clear
to
the
to
the
contractor
that
it
needed
to
match
up
in
terms
of
color
dimensions,
style
and,
and
all
of
that.
D
K
It
is
the
same:
it's
it's
going
to
be
six
feet,
the
only
the
only
substantial
difference-
and
this
is
an
additional
expense
to
us,
but
we
think
it's
worth
the
cost.
K
D
D
G
Brian
is:
are
you
the
one
sharing
the
screen?
Can
you
go
back
to
the
plan.
G
I
have
one
question
for
john:
does
the
the
sixth
come
in
below
the
railing
height
of
the
porch.
G
Yeah,
I
don't
think
it's
that
high,
so
my
concern
about
this
is
that
the
building
is
shown
as
a
nice
square,
but
in
fact
it's
not
square
at
all,
there's
a
bay
and
then
it
goes
back
in
and
then
it
goes
back
in
again
and
the
porch
ends.
Half
two
thirds
of
the
way
across
so
the
plan
is
submitted,
doesn't
really
show
the
relationship
of
the
new
fence
to
the
actual
footprint
of
the
building.
So
that's
it.
G
K
The
drawing
the
drawing
is
certainly
an
oversimplification
you're,
correct.
K
G
K
There
is,
there
is
a
there's,
a
gap
between
them.
There.
K
G
K
Well
again,
we
were,
we
were
trying
to
avoid
attaching
anything
to
the
building
but
as
as
you
pointed
out
because
it
flares
at
the
bottom,
you
know
we
we
may
have
to
make
some
sort
of
accommodation
for
that.
If
we
don't
want
people,
you
know
wedging
themselves
through
that
opening.
L
A
No
members
of
the
public
signed
up
to
speak
on
this
proposal.
There
are
no
members
of
the
public
in
the
waiting
room
wishing
to
address
the
commission
and
there
were
no
written
comments,
but
we
still
should
open
the
public
hearing.
B
E
G
Okay,
don
said
that
or
to
be
using
some
of
the
similar
arch
details.
Would
that
be
just
on
the
gate
would
be
arched.
Would
that
is
that
the
where
the
arch
location
would
be.
D
G
I
just
noticed
one
more
thing:
the
plan
shows
the
gates
swinging
out
into
the
public
sidewalk.
Maybe
the
gate
should
swing
in
definitely.
F
F
Whereas
314
west
state
street
is
located
within
the
downtown
west
historic
district
as
designated
under
section
228-3
of
the
city
of
ithaca
municipal
code
in
2015,
and
whereas
that
set
forth
in
it
section
228-4
of
the
municipal
code,
an
application
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
Dated
june
10,
2022
was
submitted
for
review
to
the
ithaca
landmarks
preservation
commission
by
john
barry
on
behalf
of
property
owner
southern
tier
age
program,
including
the
following
one:
two
narratives,
respectively
titled
description
of
proposed
changes
and
reasons
for
changes.
F
Two,
a
proposal
from
whitmore
fence,
three,
the
three
foot
photographs
documenting
the
existing
conditions
and
four
product
literature
for
amer,
ameristar
fence
products,
montage
plus
steel,
ornamental
fence
system,
okay,
I'll
skip
down
to
resolved
resolved
that
the
ilpc
has
made
the
following
findings
of
facts.
Considering
the
property
and
the
proposal,
as
identified
in
the
city
of
I
think,
was
downtown
west
historic
district
summary
statement.
F
F
Residence
at
314,
west
state
street
was
designated
by
locally
significant
architect,
alba,
b
wood
and
and
are
designed
by
location,
significant
architect
of
alpha
b
wood
and
constructed
between
1885
and
1886
constructed
within
the
period
of
significance
of
the
downtown
west,
historic
district
and
possessing
a
high
level
of
integrity.
The
property
is
a
contributing
element
of
the
downtown
west
historic
district.
The
intent
of
proposal
under
consideration
is
to
secure
the
property
and
restrict
access
to
the
front
porch
after
regular
business
hours
to
prevent
further
damage
to
the
historic
resource.
F
Principle
number
two:
the
historic
feature
of
property
located
within
and
contributing
to
the
significance
of
a
historic
district
shall
be
altered
as
little
as
possible
and
any
alterations
made
shall
be
compatible
with
both
the
historic
character
and
the
individual
property
and
the
character
of
the
district
as
a
whole
principle.
Number
three
new
construction
located
within
the
historic
district
shall
be
compatible
with
the
historic
character
of
the
district
within
which
it
is
located.
Standard
number
two,
the
historic
character
of
a
property,
will
be
retained
and
preserved.
F
This
the
removal
of
distinctive
materials
or
alteration
of
features
and
spaces
that
characterize
a
property
will
be
avoided.
Standard
number,
nine,
new
additions,
exterior
alterations
or
related
new
construction
shall
not
destroy
historic
materials
that
characterize
the
property.
The
new
work
shall
be
differentiated
from
the
old
and
shall
be
compatible
with
the
massive
size,
scale
and
architectural
features
to
protect
the
historic
integrity
of
the
property
and
its
environment.
F
Resolve
that,
based
on
the
findings
said
above
set
forth
above
the
proposal
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
effect
on
the
aesthetic
historical,
architectural
significance
of
the
downtown
west
historic
district.
That
set
forth
in
section
286
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
ithaca
landmarks
preservation
commission
determines
that
the
proposal
meets
criteria
for
approval
under
section
228-6
of
the
municipal
code.
Be
it
further
resolved
that
the
ilpc
approves
the
application
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
A
Two,
the
gate
shall
have
an
arch
top
to
match
to
match
that
feature
found
on
the
gate
across
the
driveway
and
then
finally,
the
gate
shall
swing.
Inward,
okay,.
H
A
B
All
right
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes.
Please
someone
I'll.
B
A
Was
nice
to
see
everyone,
so
the
our
next
iopc
meeting
is
scheduled
for
a
week
after
we
should
receive
announcement
about
whether
remote
meetings
will
extend
or
not.
So
please
keep
an
eye
on
your
emails
for
notification
about
whether
we'll
be
meeting
in
person
or
remotely.
E
A
Sue,
I
see
your
hand
up.
Do
you
have
a
question.
A
E
L
Right
ryan
would
the
with
the
ilpc
meetings
also
fall
under
the
city's
hybrid
meeting
policies
that
we
just
passed.
Okay,.
A
Yes
yeah,
so
the
the
plan
for
the
hybrid
meetings
for
those
of
you
that
haven't
heard
commission
and
board
members
will
be
required
to
attend
in
person
a
quorum
of
in-person
members
is
required
to
hold
a
meeting.
Members
of
the
public,
and
other
participants
will
be
strongly
encouraged
to
attend
remotely.