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H
J
Right
so
I
am
I
would
still
like
to
have
you've.
Granted
me
two
parking
spots.
I
would
like
a
third
parking
spot,
because
I
think
it
meets
the
same
criteria
as
the
first
two.
You
can't
see
it
from
the
street
and
it
is
big
enough
and
it
would
be
very
helpful
to
have
that,
because
parking
is
a
problem.
J
You
would,
however,
see
a
railing
that
I
need
to
build
for
safety,
so
people
don't
fall
into
the
walkway
and
I'm
proposing
to
have
the
railing,
be
historic.
I
sent
Brian
a
picture
of
the
railing
of
a
house
next
door,
so
I
would
build
a
wood
railing.
That's
one
it
like
the
like
the
picture
that
I
sent,
but
it
would
be
tall
enough,
I,
think
42,
inches
high
or
whatever
the
code
says.
F
K
Well,
there's:
the
survey
shows
11.2
feet
from
the
face
of
the
building
to
the
property
line,
and
that
would
be
more
than
the
I
believe
it's
the
seed.
It
says
nine
by
18
feet
is
their
sizes
for
parking
spots
so
that
for
the
parallel
parking
one
that
would
be
that
would
meet
the
city
requirements
for
the
size
of
apartment,
space.
K
J
J
J
The
railing,
yes,
you
see
the
railing,
it
I
think
it
would
actually
think
it
would
be
pretty
I
think
it's
it'll
be
historic.
It'll
be
made
of
wood,
it'll,
look
like
a
a
fence
on
the
side
of
it,
and
it's
going
to
be
the
same
as
I'm
gonna
have
on
the
left
side
porch
because
I'm
rebuilding
they
just
have
t11
there,
and
so
because
the
old
railing
deteriorated
so
I'd
like
to
rebuild
that
to
be
historic,
so
it
will
match
that.
J
H
J
So
this
is
the
house
next
door,
Brian
and
I
looked
at
this
months
and
months
ago,
when
he
first
stopped
by
my
property,
just
to
sort
of
show
me
so
this
I'm
I'm
open
to
other
railings.
This
is
just
the
only
one
I
found
in
the
vicinity
except
I
would
want
it
to
be
taller.
I
wanted
to
meet
code,
so
people
don't.
Actually.
This
is
very
low,
fall
over.
H
J
Right
so
I
that
I
just
have
a
little
trouble
hearing
you
so
the
door.
The
door
is
the
same
door
that
was
approved
before
the
concern.
Last
time
was
that
I
didn't
have
walkway
space
in
front
of
it,
because
the
lot
line
is
so
tiny,
so
part
of
the
application.
I
have
the
letter
from
Cornell
saying
they're
going
to
grant
me
whatever
I
need
a
lease
or
an
easement
or
to
to
fulfill
that
requirement.
J
I
added
the
Skylight
since
last
time,
I
thought
it
would
look
so
I
keep
changing
a
little
bit
on
this
I'm.
So
sorry
because
I
just
got
the
sky,
the
the
sidelights
priced
and
it's
extremely
expensive,
so
I
just
I
do
want
more
light
into
that
property
and
what
I've
discovered
since
I've
submitted
all
this
paperwork.
I
mean
you
can
still
see
my
screen
right.
J
This
is
this
was
the
when
they
when
Cornell
was
selling
this.
This
is
the
historic
picture
that
they
had
of
this
house
and
it's
very
hard
to
zoom
into
it.
But
on
that
porch
you
can
see
they
had
little
Windows
all
around.
So
I
actually
now
think
I'd
like
to
replicate
that
versus
the
two
side
lights.
It's
just
it's
too
expensive.
It's
not
enough
bang
for
your
buck,
for
what
I'm
getting
for
that.
But
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
approve
a
few
options
or
I
have
to
be
very
specific.
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E
I
mean
I,
don't
I,
don't
generally
have
any
significant
concerns
about
the
proposal.
If,
if
Steve
is,
if
Steve
is
comfortable
with,
what's
being
proposed,
you
know
the
the
fence
itself
is
removable
in
the
future
without
impairing
the
historic
fabric,
parking
paint,
the
parking
space,
I
I,
pretty
much
feel
the
same
way
about
as
long
as
there's
legally
enough
space
to
be
there.
E
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J
E
J
K
J
H
K
J
J
J
F
F
F
J
F
Including
the
following
new
items:
one
new
two
revised
narratives
respectively
titled,
the
description
of
proposed
changes
and
reasons
for
changes,
two
by
photographs,
documenting
existing
conditions
and
the
locations
of
some
of
the
proposed
changes.
Three
12
sheets
of
revised
architectural
drawings
and
renderings
dated
September,
2nd
2022.
F
entitled
cover
sheet
a
existing
site
plan;
a
001
e
round
four
plan;
eight
double
o
two:
the
first
floor
plan,
8003
and
Grand
floor
plan,
804
and
first
floor
plan,
8005
and
northern
vo8006
and
southern
view.
8007
and
Eastern
View
AWA
and
Western
u8009
3D
views;
800,
10
3D
views
too
for
an
email
to
the
applicant
for
Chrisley
gottenberger
Grossman.
Regarding
the
subject
property
dated
August
18
2022.
F
Property
of
the
surrounding
properties,
whereas
a
public
hearing
for
the
purpose
of
considering
approval
of
the
revised
application
for
certificate
and
appropriateness
was
conducted
at
the
regularly
scheduled
iopc
meeting
on
September
20th
2022..
Now,
therefore,
we
have
resolved
that
the
ilpc
has
made
the
following
five
weeks.
In
fact,
concerning
the
property
of
The
Proposal,
a
period
of
significance
for
the
area
now
known
as
the
University
of
historic
district.
It
is
identified
in
the
city
with
this
University
middle
historic
district
salary,
a
significant
statement.
F
It
was
1867
and
1927.,
as
indicated
in
the
entry
in
the
annotated
list
of
properties
included
with
the
University
of
historic
district,
the
tutor
Revival
style
Residence
at
628
628
Stewart
Avenue,
constructed
in
1910
constructed
within
the
period
of
significance
of
the
University
of
historic
district
possessing
high
level
of
Integrity.
The
property
is
a
contributing
element
of
the
University
of
the
state
district.
F
The
commission
shall
consider
whether
the
proposed
change
is
consistent,
the
historic
value
and
spirit
of
the
architectural
style
of
the
landmark
or
district,
and
according
to
section
228-6
at
the
municipal
code,
making
this
determination,
the
commission
is
Guided
by
the
principal
support
in
section
228-6b
of
the
municipal
code.
That's
further
elaborated
in
section
228-6
c
and
by
the
Secretary
of
the
Interior
standards
for
rehabilitation,
and
in
this
case,
specifically
the
following
principles
and
standards.
Principle
number
two
historic
features
of
a
property
located
within
and
contributing
to
the
significant
semester.
F
District
shall
be
altered
as
little
as
possible
in
any
alterations.
May
shall
be
compatible
with
both
the
starter
character
of
the
individual
property
and
the
character
in
The
District.
As
a
home
standard
number,
two,
the
restorative
character
of
the
property,
will
be
retained
and
preserved.
The
removal
of
distinctive
materials
or
alterational
features
and
spaces
of
capitalized
property
that
we
avoided
standard
number.
Nine
new
additions,
exterior
alterations
are
related
to
construction,
shall
not
destroy
historic
materials,
characterize
the
property.
F
With
respect
to
principle,
number
two
standard
number
two
and
standard
number:
nine:
the
replacement
of
a
non-historic
door
on
the
south
elevation,
the
installation
of
a
door
retaining
wall
surveillance
of
the
walkway
in
the
north
elevation
will
not
remove
distinctive
materials.
It
will
not
alter
feature.
The
spaces
that
characterize
the
properties,
also
with
respect
against
my
number
two
and
standard
number
nine,
the
proposed
rewards-
are
compatible
with
a
massive
size.
F
It's
all
that,
based
on
the
findings
set
forth
about
the
proposal,
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
effect
from
the
aesthetic
historical
and
Architectural
significance
of
University
Hill
historic
district
set
forth
in
section.
228-6
will
be
a
further
resolved
that
the
Ithaca
landmarks
preservation
Commission
determines
that
the
proposal
needs
criteria
under
section
23-6
of
the
municipal
code,
and
we
have
further
resolved
with
the
ilpc.
Approves.
The
application
or
certificate
of
the
program
is
under
the
following
commissions.
B
H
G
G
G
G
Think
it's
important
to
note
that
that
is
not
an
estimate
to
save
the
building
that
when
we,
if
we
were
to
do
that,
that
what
we
would
have
would
still
be
a
large
paper
weight
that
would
not
be
a
useful
building.
That
is,
a
temporary
correction,
hold
the
building
in
place
until
we
could
put
it
more
money
into
it
to
actually
reconstruct
it.
The
building
is
falling
down
and
it
literally
would
have
to
be
rebuilt
one
brick
at
a
time.
E
G
Purchased
a
building
in
2005.
and
in
October,
and
the
quote
that
I
read
to
you
was
from
a
letter
in
November
and
in
your
package.
There
are
also
two
more
recent
letters
from
engineers
and
there
every
time
we've
had
someone
look
at
the
building,
we've
been
told
it's
just
not
feasible
to
rehabilitate
this
building.
E
Yeah
I
mean
I,
think
I
I
got
the
impression
I
I
apologize,
I,
don't
know
you
personally
and
so
I
didn't
know
how
long
you'd
you'd
own
the
building
and
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
the
January
2021
letter
is
not
a
reflection
of
when
you
first
acquired
the
building,
because
you
know
I
think
for
me
that
always
that
always
makes
a
difference.
If
we've
certainly
had
we
actually
approved
Brian.
A
E
So
the
the
January
13th
2021
letter
I
mean
the
way
I
read
it
is
that
the
bill,
the
walls
should
be
braced
or
supported.
So
that
would
lead
me
to
believe
Tatum
thought
that
it
was
possible,
so
I
would,
if
I'm
reading,
if
I'm
reading
your
packet
correctly
or
understanding
your
presentation
correctly,
it's
not
truly
that
this
building
couldn't
be
saved,
but
that
you
is
it
my
understanding
correctly
that
that,
for
you,
it's
probably
not
economically
appropriate
to
attempt
to
save
it
because
it
could
not
be
converted
into
additional.
E
Maybe
not
accuse
is.
Is
that
why?
Because
I
wanna
I
wanna
pull
apart
those
two
things:
it's
not
that
either
of
them
are
inappropriate
in
of
themselves,
but
I
want
to
unpack
it,
because
I
think
we
have
to
start
with
the
historic
resource.
Is
this
a
salvageable
building,
yes
or
no,
and
then
is
it
appropriate
to
establish
this
building?
Yes
or
no.
G
G
L
I'd
like
to
add
to
that
answer
as
well
on
the
technical,
whether
it's
technically
possible
or
not.
The
engineers
are
two
minds,
but
one
of
them
pointed
out
that,
because
the
Western
walls
actually
right
up
against
the
Crescent
building,
any
work
would
have
to
impinge
on
that
building.
They
don't
have
access
to
that
wall
without
you
know
having
to
affect
that
structure
in
some
way.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
a
it
might
be
possible,
but
very
very
tricky
and
invasive
on
our
neighbors
as
well
and
on
the
financial
side.
L
L
E
E
Why
we're
allowing
demolition
of
yours
when
we
have
a
history
of
not
allowing
demolition
of
carriage
barns,
there
are
very
threatened
resource
in
the
city
and
a
lot
of,
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
Desire
over
the
years
to
demolish
I
only
know
of
one
that
we've
actually
approved
demolition
for
and
it's
the
one
I
mean
in
my
10
years.
There
there
may
have
been
before
that,
but
I,
don't
I'm,
not
aware
of
them
necessarily
so
any
we
I
I
would
I
would
caution
the
commission
to
that.
E
If,
if
the
sentiment
is
towards
demolition
approving
it
that
it's
very,
very
narrowly
written
in
the
resolution,
which
means
we
need
justification
for
why
we
do
it
and
on
part
of
the
problem
in
the
packet
is
that
you
actually
have
a
bid
for
doing
the
work
and
I
appreciate
that
it
would
not
be
a
full
Rehabilitation,
but
it
actually,
according
to
the
bid
document,
it
would
Salvage
the
structure
as
it
currently
stands.
I
know
that
doesn't
turn
I
know.
That's
not
what
you
want
to
do,
but.
E
Okay,
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
disputing
that
I
mean
it's
been
very
difficult
for
property
owners
everywhere
right
now
to
get
anybody
wanting
to
do
anything
just
because
there's
so
much
demand,
so
I
I
don't
feel
comfortable
going
into
that
specifics,
but
because
it's
part
of
the
packet
it
actually
demonstrates
that
it
is
potentially
Salvage.
The
building
is
potentially
salvageable,
so
I
think
I.
Think
the
commission.
E
If
the
commission
goes
in
the
direction
of
approving
demolition,
it
needs
to
own
how
to
work
itself
around
that
and
find
justification
beyond
that
for
approving
a
demolition
but
I'd
really
like
to
hear
from
Steve
and
Steve
so
I'm
out
with
covet.
My
family's
had
coven
since,
like
last
week,
so
this
week,
when
I
got
the
package
so
I
apologize,
I
was
not
able
to
visit
your
building
in
person
now
I'm
out
personally
with
it,
because
that
was
of
course
the
last
one
in
my
family
to
get
it.
K
It's
about
three
feet
from
the
house
at
626,
East
Seneca,
if
I
had
the
right
number
so
that
access
to
that
point
is
difficult
with
only
a
three
foot
clearance,
I
think
I
think
looking
at
the
Bulge
there
I
think
it's
more
than
the
three
inches
sighted
and
the
engineers
report.
I
bet,
there's
12
inches
of
Bulge
on
that
South
Side.
K
So
my
opinion
is:
if
this
building
was
in
a
middle
of
a
flat
lawn
with
10
feet
of
clearance
around
it,
it
could
it
could
be
salvaged
and
saved,
but
the
access
is
so
difficult.
You
pretty
much
have
to
get
to
it
from
the
neighboring
properties
or
you'd
have
to
like
cut
a
hole
in
the
roof
to
reach
outside
and
fix
something
because
it's
right
on
the
property
line,
and
then
some
the
area
against
the
Crescent
building
is
totally
inaccessible.
K
K
K
K
L
But
to
your
second
question:
we
would
definitely
want
to
document
in
as
much
detail
as
possible
visually,
as
well
as
with
the
measurements
all
the
aspects
you
just
mentioned
in
case,
we
ever
were
to
try
to
replicate
that
either
in
a
similar
spot
or
in
a
different
place
on
the
property.
So
we
would
be
very
interested
in
making
sure
we
had
a
record
of
that.
L
On
your
first
question,
we
were
advised
as
part
of
Brotherton
withdrawing
from
the
project
because
of
the
advice
they've
gotten
about
liability
to
them
for
because
of
their
properties,
they
had
recommended
going
with.
You
know,
Consulting
with
a
specialty
firm.
They
didn't
name
any,
but
the
price
from
it
from.
F
L
K
G
H
I
remember
looking
at
this
building
in
2005
with
a
person
who
would
actually
put
an
offer
in
on
this
property
and
the
offer
had
been
accepted
and
they
did
the
structural
inspection
also
as
you
did,
and
in
the
end
they
went
through
because
of
the
liability
related
to
this
Carriage
House.
They
were
too
concerned.
We
decided
not
to
move
forward
them.
Canceled
their
contract
I
went
back
today
and
also
looked
at
that
back
wall
down
the
alleyway
by
giving
access
to
the
back
and
I.
H
F
I
did
not
make
an
offer
because
I
I
was
dissuaded
by
the
carriage
house
and
it
was
clear
that
to
to
purchase
this
building
came
with
it
a
requirement
because
it
was
historic
to
maintain
the
carriage
house
which
I
didn't
want
to
do.
But
it
does
seem
to
me
that
it
would
have
been
incumbent
on
any
purchaser
to
maintain
this
historic
resource
and
and
I
can't
tell
that
any
maintenance
or
any
attempt
to
maintain,
has
has
been
made
here.
So
I'd
be
curious
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
that.
G
G
G
G
L
So
we
we
specifically
addressed
the
items
that
were
noted
in
the
inspection
report
and
any
issues
we
observed
during
the
time
we've
owned
the
property,
including,
as
Lisa
said,
making
sure
that
the
building
was
protected
from
the
elements
there's
been.
A
lot
of.
You
know,
Patchwork
done
to
make
sure
that
that
happened
to
Ed's
comment.
There
was
no
note
in
the
inspection
report.
No,
nor
do
I,
remember
seeing
such
a
bulge
back
at
that
time,
that
that
is
the
thing
that's
been
getting
worse
and
that
we
discovered
you
know
by
chance.
L
E
Well,
I
think
that
it's
on
a
broader
picture,
I
don't
want
the
public
to
emerge,
thinking
that
there's
no
way
to
salvage
brick
buildings
that
are
suffering
from
the
types
of
issues
your
art.
Yours
is
to
to
Steve's
point
again.
I
I
think
there
there
may
be
extenuating
circumstances
related
to
the
placement
of
the
property.
But
it's
it's
not.
It's
not
correct
to
imply
that
a
building
with
a
brick
building
of
that
age
is
not
salvageable
in
any
circumstance,
with
the
same
conditions
and
so
to
you
know
to
Steve's
point.
E
If
the
building
was
located,
perhaps
in
a
different
location,
it
would
be
a
different.
It
would
be
a
very
different
story,
so
I
just
like
to
I'd
like
to
throw
that
out
there
that
it's
not
that
buildings
of
this
type
aren't
salvageable,
so
I,
don't
personally
I,
don't
think
on
the
backgrounds
that
this
is
not
a
salvageable
building
because
of
its
materiality
or
its
condition
is
in
fact
justification
for
demolition.
So
I
think
the
commission
will
need
if
they
want
to
proceed,
would
need
to
find
other
grounds.
H
D
E
G
K
K
A
G
A
G
B
C
H
O
So,
a
decade
ago,
we
replaced
a
very
non-historic
looking
deck
on
the
back
side
of
our
house,
with
a
more
historically
detailed
porch
with
a
second
story
balcony.
Unfortunately,
that
is
rotting
out
and
is
going
to
need
to
have
renovation
before
stuff
starts
actually
falling
down
on
us.
Actually,
the
lower
rail
on
the
porch
actually
has
already
done
so
so
at
the
same
time
as
renovating
that,
we
thought
that
it
was
a
good
time
to
consider
the
rest
of
the
back
side
of
the
house.
O
There
is
next
to
that
porch,
a
door
that
goes
into
the
basement,
which
is
badly
damaged.
We
can't
actually
open
it
anymore.
The
only
way
to
open
it
is
basically
to
to
shoulder
check
it,
which
means
that
the
door,
which
does
seem
to
be
historic,
that
it
it
is
badly
cracked
at
the
across
at
the
height
of
the
door,
handle
and
is
just
not
I
I
doubt
that
that
particular
physical
door
is
actually
going
to
be
salvageable.
O
O
E
I
just
had
a
quick
question.
Sorry,
my
18
month
old,
is
eating
an
orange
and
very
excited
about
it.
So
I
apologize
that
they're
shrieking,
so
I
thought
your.
Your
pictures
of
your
of
the
current
portion
were
rather
quite
attractive,
but
I'm
concerned
that
it
only
lasted
you
10
years.
That
seems
like
that's
not
what
we'd
like
to
see
for
a
project.
So
do
you
know
what
happened
so
we
can
make
sure
that's
not
happening
in
the
future.
E
O
The
Water
never
sheeted
off
of
the
upper
balcony,
the
way
that
it
should
have
so
it
just
sat
and
then
dropped,
and
there
was
probably
some
breaking
of
the
membrane
underneath
it
also
at
least
from
10
years
ago,
the
colored
wood
stains
for
for
decks,
free
advice,
it's
terrible
it.
The
wood,
porch
started
cupping
out
and
rotted
it
out
inside
the
year
and
so
full
disclosure.
O
At
the
moment
there
actually
is
PVC
planking
in
there
because,
after
a
couple
of
years
of
being
afraid
to
step
out
of
our
our
back
porch,
we
did
ask
the
company
to
come
and
under
warranty,
replace
the
plant
King
and
I
apologize
that
it
did
not
occur
to
us
at
the
time
that
we
changing
the
material.
But
not
any
of
the
look
that
we
should
have
gotten
that
passed
through
the
the
commission.
E
O
E
O
Yes,
and-
and
so
this
is
actually
why
we
have
explicitly
asked
I-
talked
with
Brian
a
little
bit
about
this-
that
the
aeratus
brand
porch
flooring
is
something
that
the
commission
has
approved
previously
and
we
would
be
interested
in
using
probably
that
specific
one
we
do
like
I
said
we
we've
got
some
pvc
flooring
in
there
right
now.
It's
the
kome
brand,
which
I
also
sent
a
sample
of.
Unfortunately,
the
kome
brand
is
not
rated
for
uncovered
porches.
O
O
If
the
aeratus
is
really
super
expensive,
we
might
ask
to
do
the
kome
on
the
completely
covered
lower
and
the
aeratus
on
the
upper
but
yeah.
The
other
difficulty
that
we
had
and
and
the
construction
company
at
the
time
had
noted.
This-
was
that
the
wood
that
was
available
at
the
time
was
unusually
green
and
so
even
giving
it
time
to
season
out
there
and
then
being
primed
and
painted
it's.
It's
been
brought
in
from
the
inside
out.
O
Would
would
love
to
and
and
we're
we've
talked
with,
the
current
Construction
Company
sequence.
Sorensen
are
are
willing
to
do
this
and
they
and
and
talked
explicitly
about
some
of
the
problems
and
the
space
is
very,
very
shaded,
they're
maple,
trees,
all
around
the
property,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
organic
matter
coming
down
as
well
as,
as
you
know,
the
way
that
we
get
seasonally
inundated
with
rain,
and
so
we've
we've
talked
about
some
of
the
finer
construction
details
that
should
be
in
there
to
make
it
last
more
appropriately.
O
K
Details
in
construction
is
a
deck,
an
outdoor
deck
above
a
roof
membrane,
it's
even
worse.
If
then,
you'd
have
an
insulated
ceiling
below
that,
but
because
you
got
to
get
it's
difficult
to
detail
correctly
and
then
the
guard
rails
come
through
the
membrane
and
then
they
need
to
be
flashed
in
and
foreign.
O
K
O
H
This
these
PVC
products
are
something
that
we
should
be
discussing
a
little
bit.
We're
focused
on
product
on
North,
Trip,
family,
Road,
handicap
ramp
and
in
Portugal
not
too
long
ago,
because
I
know
a
lot
of
people
are
running
into
trouble
as
far
as
where
I've
run
into
problems
with
fortunes
at
this
point
new
construction
and
that
the
wood
does
not
last
very
long,
even
if
you
do
stain
it
and
paint
it.
It
just
doesn't
last
very
long,
and
this
does
seem
like
a
decent
alternative.
K
O
B
O
K
B
F
E
Well,
but
I
think
that
I
would
make
the
case
that
that
this
is
a
very
specific
location.
That's
not
publicly
accessible
or
publicly
visible,
I
mean
if
you
were
gonna,
make.
If
you're
trying
to
sell
me
on
a
version
of
this
on
the
front,
porch
I
would
be
a
real
hard
sell.
So
I
think
the
location
to
me
is
where
the
materiality
becomes
far
less
significant
and
also
the
fact
that
we're
not
replacing
historic
materials
with
this
materiality.
This
is
remove
it.
E
E
Think,
for
all
of
those
reasons
and
I
think
that
should
be
outlined
in
the
I
think
that's
rationale
that
should
be
included
in
a
resolution
is
if
this
is
not
like.
No,
we
should
just
definitely
have
this
material
all
over
the
districts.
I
think
that
it's
in
very
limited
occasions
that
it's
fine,
so
thank
you
and.
E
I'd
like
to
find
out,
you
know,
you
know
we're
never
really
good
about
doing
this,
but
I
would
always
like
to
see
how
these
products
do
over
time
in
test
cases.
So
I
would
really
be
grateful
to
you
as
a
property
owner
five
years
from
now
you're
having
horrible
problems
you
let
us
know,
because
honestly,
it's
very
useful
because,
especially
with
these
newer
products,
we
we
don't
necessarily
I,
know
I,
don't
have
experience
with
them.
So
I
rely
on
Steve's
recommendations
and
and
staff
recommendations
on
them.
A
A
E
K
And
experience
a
porch
job
replacement
job
where
the
Douglas
sphere
was
only
available
in
random
links.
So
if
you
need
all
10
Footers,
anything
short
is
not
very
useful
to
you.
If
anything
laundry
got
cut
at
least
you
could
buy
the
synthetics
and
beats
10s
12
14
16..
That
was
kind
of
apparently
I'm,
not
sure.
If
it's
always
the
case.
H
N
Resolution
RC,
whereas
407
East,
Buffalo
Street,
is
located
in
the
East
Hills
historic
district
as
designated
under
sections,
228-3
and
228-4
of
the
city
of
Ithaca
municipal
code
in
1988,
and
is
listed
on
the
New
York
State
and
National
registers
of
historic
places
in
1986.
I'm
going
to
step
down
and
whereas,
as
stated
in
the
narrative
description
of
proposed
changes,
the
project
involves
reconfiguration
of
the
rare
South
elevation
of
the
rear
ring
of
the
house,
including
removal
of
an
unhistoric
2012
porch,
and
a
seemingly
non-historic
shed
roof
Edition.
N
The
removal
of
a
wood
door,
which
is
most
likely
original
to
this
added
Wing.
The
construction
of
an
approximately
7
by
11
addition
and
two-story
wood
porch
detailed
to
match
the
existing
porch
on
the
front
of
the
house
and
whereas
the
applicant
has
provided
sufficient
documentation
and
information
to
evaluate
impacts
of
The
Proposal
on
the
subject,
property
and
Surround
properties,
and
whereas
a
public
hearing
for
the
purpose
of
considering
the
approval
for
an
application
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
was
conducted
as
a
regularly
scheduled
ilpc
meeting
on
September
20th
2022.
N
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
ilpc
has
made
the
following
facts:
findings
are
back
concerning
the
property
and
the
proposal
has
identified
in
the
city
of
ithaca's
East,
Hill
historic
district,
summary
statement.
The
period
of
significance
for
the
area
now
known
as
the
East
Hill
historic
district
is
1830-1932..
N
The
pro
the
property
is
a
contributing
element
of
the
East
Hills
historic
district
The
Proposal
of
the
the
purpose
of
the
proposal
is
to
reconfigure
the
rear
elevation
of
the
rear
wing
to
accommodate
a
mud
room
addition
in
an
enlarged
two-story,
porch
I
read
the
information
on
the
secretary.
We've
talked
about
number
two
and
number
nine,
but
number
ten
new
additions
and
adjacent
are
related.
New
construction
shall
be
undertaken
in
such
a
manner
that,
if
removed
in
the
future,
the
essential
form
and
integrity
of
the
historic
property
of
its
environment
would
be
unimpaired.
N
And
we
can,
we
will
not
removed
yeah.
Okay
will
not
remove
distinctive
materials
and
all
my
altar
features
and
spaces
that
characterize
the
property.
With
respect
to
standard
number,
nine,
the
construction
of
the
new
addition
and
rear
porch
and
the
removal
of
a
seemingly
historic
door,
we
might
destroy
the
historic
materials
that
characterize
the
property,
also
with
respect
standard
number.
Nine
to
propose
new
edition
and
two-story
porch
with
detailing
that
Echoes.
That
of
the
existing
front.
N
Porch,
are
are
not
differentiated
from
the
old
and
are
compatible
with
a
maximum
size,
scale
and
Architectural
features
of
the
property
and
its
environment
with
respect
to
standard
number
10
and
the
proposed
alterations
cannot
be
removed
in
the
future,
without
impairment
of
the
essential
form
and
integrity
of
the
thermostat
properties.
Environment.
N
N
The
aesthetic,
historical
or
architectural
significance
of
407
East,
Buffalo
Street
and
the
East
Hills
historic
district,
that's
that
fourth
in
section
228
Dash
4E
1A
and
be
it
for
the
result
of
the
Ithaca
landmarks
preservation.
Permission
determines
that
the
proposal
meets
criteria
for
approval
under
Section
228-4e
1A
of
the
municipal
code
and
therefore
the
result
that
the
ilcc
approves.
The
application
for
certificate
of
appropriateness
had
a
couple
of
things
and.
A
N
A
H
F
I
C
H
So
the
next
and
tonight
a
public
comment
on
matters
of
Interest.
Do
you
have
anybody?
I
received
my
comments?
Okay,
we're
an
old
business.
We
have
105
Westbourne,
Lane,
Cornell,
Heights,
historic
district,
Ferrari
design
guidance
I
wanted
to
somebody
that
will
be
presenting
some
of
these
early
design.
Ideas
for
us.
C
M
B
M
M
M
We
are
representing
also
Alpha
Phi
Alpha
Incorporated,
which
is
the
first
black
Greek
letter
organization
founded
at
Cornell
in
Ithaca,
New
York.
So
the
membership
is
interested
in
in
transforming
this
into
a
residence
hall,
as
well
as
a
the
mother
chapter,
the
first,
the
first
we
were
charged
with
creating
to
you,
know,
15
rooms
and
also
doing
some
landscape
improvements
and
most
of
all,
having
alumni
membership
that
a
wheelchair
bound,
creating
a
handicap
accessible
entrance
that
the
existing
condition
just
does
not
provide.
M
So,
after
back
and
forth
conversations
with
Brian
and
getting
some
feedback
from
members
of
the
committee,
we
we
decided
to
achieve
the
grade
change
and
not
put
a
ramp
by
accommodating
by
achieving
this
with
Landscaping
raising
the
grade,
so
that
we're
level
and
we
would
handle
the
handicap
accessibility
issues
within
the
floor
plan
within
the
exterior
of
the
building
and
not
disturbing
the
historic
fabric
of
the
existing.
We
had
initial
schemes
that
were
a
little
bit
more
modern.
M
M
We
noticed
that
there
have
been
many,
you
know,
repairs
and-
and
you
know
you
know
certain
certain
things
in
terms
of
floodlighting-
we
we
need
to
get
rid
of
we
plan
on
just
removing
the
lighting.
That's
on
the
exterior,
removing
all
this,
the
the
wire
mold,
the
exterior
conduit
and
and
including
this
walk,
including
this
step
in
our
new
landscape
plan.
P
M
Well,
the
ones
that
are
that
needs
to
be
replaced
will
be
replaced.
Yep,
the
existing
wood
shingles
correct,
Tony
right,
we
would
be
removing
the
exterior
storms.
We
believe
that
they
were,
you
know
they
were
put,
they
were
installed,
you
know
in
the
70s
possibly
and
we
would
be
refurbishing
the
existing
windows
and
installing
some
interior
storms
to
improve
the
exterior
look
foreign.
M
M
The
existing
gutters
are
in
bad
shape.
We
would
replace
them
in
the
same
fashion
as
they
were
installed.
The
downspouts
I
really
think
we'd
have
a
different
characteristic
that
would
kind
of
snake
along
the
existing
facade
here,
as
opposed
to
what
we,
what
we
see
foreign,
we
will
refurbish
this
store,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
would
need
to
install
some
kind
of
power
actuator
and
then
install
a
an
operator
on
the
interior
of
the
door
in
order
to
meet
handicap
accessibility
requirements.
M
Otherwise,
we'd
have
to
find
another
entrance
or
another
means
of
getting
into
this
existing
Tower.
And
since
you
know
we
we
do
not
believe
in
separate
but
equal.
We
believe
in
separate
and
equal
everybody
who
experiences
this
building
has
got
to
come
in
the
front
door,
so
we
we
think
I'd
have
to
get
some
detailing
and
more
cut
sheets
on
how
this
power
actuator
would
look,
but
we,
you
know
we.
Obviously
we
try
to
to
you,
know
to
to
make
it
as
unobtrusive
as
possible.
P
M
M
So
what
we
would
try
to
do
is
is
create
sort
of
an
apron
or
platform
here
that
maintains
this.
This
shape
in
the
spirit
of
the
original
and
and
allow
vehicular
access,
obviously,
and
then
an
unencumbered
access
by
you
know
some
of
our
alumni
brothers
and
potentially
someone
who's
an
an
undergrad
from
Gaining
access
into
the
front
door.
M
M
M
M
So
any
improvements
that
we
plan
on
making
we
would
we
would
propose
impervious
pavers
not
to
to
make
matters
worse.
I
mean
that
that
would
be
our
intent.
So
this
this
shape
right
here
is
for
future
events.
We
do
have
alumni
that
come
back
and
we
have
as
many
as
100
to
200
members.
We
have
a
tent
set
up,
so
this
would
also
be
a
more
stable
surface
to
erect
any
of
our
temporary
structures
we
are
proposing.
M
M
We
have
accommodations
for
15.,
but
we'd
like
to
obviously
include
a
handicap
space
and
we're
trying
to
provide
for
overflow
parking,
and
if
there
is
an
event
that's
indoors,
we
would
propose
that
this.
You
know
this
impervious
paver
Plaza
for
lack
of
a
better
word
could
be
useful
overflow
parking.
We
would
create
a
a
a
fire
lane
here
and
a
curb
designed
to
accommodate
emergency
access
emergency
vehicles.
M
M
You've
got
quite
a
bit
of
trim
here
and
we
would
re.
We
would
I
mean
we've
already
been
in
touch
with
a
bunch
of
historic
preservation
contractors
and
we're
waiting
for
some
quotes,
but
the
intent
is
to
re
to
salvage
as
much
as
possible.
These
windows,
refurbish
them
and
I'll
show
you
some
images.
The
rear
is
in
pretty
bad
shape.
M
I
mean
our
Windows
schedule
is
extensive
and
we
we
do
know
that
you
know
obviously
the
incentives
to
to
refurbish
them
the
gasketing,
the
the
pulleys
any
of
the
of
the
caulking
would
be
replaced.
This
The,
Divided
lights
would
be
maintained
and
we
we
may,
you
know
we'd
get.
We
won't
make
the
you
know
the
energy
code,
but
we'll
come
pretty
close
with
the
interior
storms,
foreign.
M
M
M
M
M
B
B
M
M
M
This
is
the
first
floor
plan
we
are
accommodating.
We
do
have
a
level
change.
Once
we
get
into
the
entry
hall,
we
need
to
rise
an
additional
24
inches
to
get
to
the
main
floor
and,
as
I
mentioned
previously,
we're
trying
to
accommodate
all
of
these
grade
changes
on
the
exterior
with
a
ramp
and
a
new
entry,
but
we're
going
to
provide
a
lift,
get
Folks
up
to
the
first
floor
and
and
then
to
the
the
main
Gallery
space
here,
which
would
be
used
as
a
lounge,
a
student
study
center.
M
Given
the
square
footage
here
and
the
nature
of
the
events,
we
do
need
to
provide
a
sec,
another
means
of
egress,
which
is
this
stair
down
to
the
to
the
lower
level,
and
we
figured
since
this
is
the
rear
of
the
building.
It's
not
necessarily
as
prominent.
This
would
be
a
new
addition,
an
improvement
over
the
old
that
was
not
part
of
a
historic
fabric,
but
the
intent
is
to
Jesus
to
achieve
an
elevation
that
is
more
complementary
of
the
existing
building.
M
M
M
M
F
I
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
that
this
is
a
big
project
and
I
think
the
the
changes
that
you
want
to
make
for
moving
the
1970s
Edition
in
the
back
really
admirable
I
I,
like
what
you
were
proposing
on
the
the
ground
floor,
with
all
the
lights
that
you
propose
to
to
let
in
the
largest
structural
change
that
you
propose,
that
is
raising
the
roof
in
the
back.
Extending
those
well
really
building
new
Dormers,
and
not
only
do
I
not
see
any
problem
with
that.
F
But
I
I
think
that
that's
a
a
really
reasonable
to
move
to
take.
So
I
also
want
to
note
that
in
the
initial
presentation
there
was
a
fairly
extreme
proposal
for
the
treatment
of
the
entrance,
and
you
have
you
had
really
very
ably
figured
out
a
way
to
keep
the
entrance
and
make
it
suit
your
needs.
So
I'm
I'm
really
quite
quite
enthusiastic
about
what
you've
proposed.
E
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
I,
your
architectural
renderings
are
beautiful,
but
I
am
not
an
architect,
so
I
have
a
harder
time,
always
appreciating
what
exactly
I'm
seeing
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
what
alterations
you
are
proposing
for
the
main
entrance.
I
think
the
regrading
is
an
excellent
solution,
but
is
there
going
to
be
other
alterations
to
the
pillar
or
to
the
door
frame
or
to
anything
related?
E
Sorry,
I
have
a
six-year-old
wanting
to
take
a
bath,
and
the
answer
is
no
so,
but
I
just
wanted
to
to
be
very
clear
about
any
other
changes
that
are
structurally
or
physically
happening
to
that
main
entrance
that
are
proposed.
It
sounded
like
to
me
that
maybe
there
weren't
but
I
just
wanted
to
be
very
clear
about
understanding
what
you're
promoting.
M
Mechanical
door
operator
on
the
inside
and
we
will
need
to
to
find
a
really
delicate
place
within
the
handicap.
Accessibility
rules
for
a
push
plate
so
that
someone
in
a
wheelchair
can
just
can
actuate
the
door.
It'll
swing
open
and
that
way
we'll
be
able
to
to
pass
the
accessibility
requirements
of
the
Ada.
B
E
Okay,
great
thank
you.
I
would
I'd
like
to
Echo
the
improvements
on
the
1970s
part.
I
will
not
be
sad
to
see.
Go
so
I
think
this
is
overall
a
con,
a
great
presentation
in
comparison
to
the
the
original,
more
modernized
version,
which
I
think
probably
would
have
met
your
needs
in
many
different
ways.
More
than
but
I
appreciate
you
working
within
the
historic
fabric,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
really
helpful
for
us.
E
When
you
come
back,
or
at
least
me
I
can't
speak
for
anybody
else
to
see
the
to
see
the
renderings,
the
visual
renderings,
so
that
we
we
have.
You
know
on
that
finer
grad,
Miller
detail
for
somebody
like
me
who
needs
to
see
the
forest
for
the
trees
and
it's
right
now,
you're
doing
such
an
excellent
job
with
the
trees.
E
E
E
K
Yes,
the
one
thing
I
noticed
that
the
the
shed
dormers
on
the
North
seem
to
be
getting
bigger
and
bigger
I
compared
the
current
elevation
to
the
one
from
April
and
there
they've
gotten
wider
and
taller,
and
there
is
a
point
when
a
Dormers
looks
good
at
the
point
when
it
stops
looking
good
anymore
I.
Guess
that
what
the
drawing
that's
used
to
be
missing
is:
is
it
any
kind
of
section
or
an
east
or
west
elevation?
K
M
B
K
M
M
K
K
M
We
just
felt
that
at
that
size
that
scale
might,
it
might
seem
even
more
unwieldy
if
it's,
if
it's
a
if
it's
clad
and
slate,
so
we
we
thought
that
it'd
be
a
lighter.
Look
in
terms
of
you
know
the
feel
of
the
the
weight
and
the
experience
of
the
look,
and-
and
so
that's
that's
why
the
decision
was
made
to
go
with
shingle.
K
H
K
M
A
Just
one
point
or
one
piece
of
the
project
that
I
want
to
draw
the
commission's
attention
to
because
it
will
come
up.
There
are
two
new
parking
areas
that
are
proposed
and
you
know
knowing
the
commission's
position
on
parking
in
historic
districts
in
the
past.
I
thought
this
would
be
a
great
opportunity
to
discuss
that
with
the
applicants.
K
M
M
M
Now
the
parking
on
the
on
the
west
side,
it's
really
extra
parking.
If
we,
if
we
got
rid
of
this,
then
we're
we're
well
within
the
required
parking
allotment
I.
You
know
we
have
one
handicap
and
we
and
we
have
one
so
one
one.
That's
four,
five,
six,
seven,
eight
nine
ten
eleven
and
we
only
required
to
have
seven
or
eight
all
right,
but
we
are
thinking.
Okay,
we
have
events
that
could
be
kind
of
large
and
the
last
time
we
had
one
we
were
all
over
Wyckoff
and
Highland.
P
K
M
M
But
we
we
will
definitely
explore
that
if
you
guys
look
right
here,
yes,
so
we
have
a
great
change,
we
did
add
the
new
walkway
right.
So
maybe
you
know
we
could
see
if
this
actually
couldn't
conform
to
a
illegal
double
loaded
parking
configuration
with
a
legal
drive
lane
I'm
I'm,
not
convinced
that
you
know
with
a
20
to
22
I
think
it's
the
requirements
of
20
22
foot
drive
lane
to
allow
for
a
double
loaded
condition,
but
we
could
take
a
closer
look
at
that.
E
I
think
that's
a
good
idea
if
you'd
be
willing
to
do
that.
I
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
the
handicap
accessible
parking
quickly.
I
I
appreciate
I,
very
much
appreciate
wanting
to
put
it
there
and
I
actually
don't
have
a
substantive
problem
with
it
being
located
there.
But
traditionally
we
do
like
to
not
have
parking
in
the
front
of
the
building
and
so
but
to
try
and
balance.
I
would
imagine
there
might
be
some
great
issues
trying
to
locate
it.
Someplace
else
would
that
be
correct,
correct.
E
So
my
recommendation
would
be
some
some
type
of
screening
that
you
could.
You
could
could
help
lessen
the
visibility
of
that
parking
space.
Those
parking
spaces
from
the
public,
right-of-way
I
mean
I
think
it
could
be
achieved
with
some
permanent
vegetation
things
like
that,
but
I
think
that
would
help
soften
that
space
more
successfully.
A
A
Brings
up
a
good
point
about
the
front
yard
parking?
Have
you
run
the
proposal
by
our
zoning
administrator
or
our
planning
board
staff?
There
may
be
specific
requirements
or
parts
of
the
ordinance
that
do
not
allow
for
front
yard
parking.
So
I'm
curious.
If
you,
if
you've
had
those
conversations
yet
we.
M
A
P
E
A
H
D
P
D
I
H
B
Q
Q
Q
But
there
was
also
another
two-story
addition
further
back
where
there
is
now
an
outdoor
Terrace,
which
I
think
it
burned
down
at
some
point
in
the
20th
century,
and
there
was
also,
to
our
surprise,
a
porch,
a
one-story
porch
on
the
east
side
of
the
back
two-story
portion
of
the
building.
And
if
we
look
at
1919,
what
we
asked
found
out
was
there
was
a
greenhouse
off
of
that
porch
toward
the
East
and
I.
Q
That's
something
I
want
to
mention
later
I
just
wanted
you
folks
to
take
note
of
the
addition
in
the
back
and
the
greenhouse
and
I'm
just
gonna.
Go
to
our
site
plan,
which
I've
marked
up,
so
the
blue
here
is
actually
the
original
foundation
of
the
rear
Edition
and
what
you
see
in
the
red
is
the
original
two-story
back
Edition,
which
is
now
gone.
There
were
a
number
of
one-story
pieces,
this
this
kind
of
bay
window
in
the
back.
There
was
a
small
porch
in
the
corner
here.
Q
So
what
we're
proposing
to
do
is
a
three-story
addition.
Hopefully
you'll
find
that
it's
in
keeping
with
the
original
in
in
the
back
area.
Here
that
comes
about
to
where
the
original
Edition
was,
it
may
be
about
a
foot
larger
and
we're
also
talking
about
connecting
to
the
existing
garage
and
using
that
as
space
for
services.
For
the
current
in.
Q
Q
So
this
is
a
site
section
through
the
parking
lot
and
I'll
zoom
in
on
that,
if
I
can
get
there
and
then
this
is
our
little
screen
building
which
would
have
an
outdoor
serving
bar.
It
would
have
some
seasonal
restrooms
for
the
folks
on
the
Terrace
and
it
would
also
conceal
the
garbage
so
that
you're
not
looking
at
any
garbage
cans
dumpsters
whatever
and
I'll
get
into
that
a
little
later.
Q
Just
for
perspective,
this
is
the
existing
house
on
Seneca
Street
about
10
20
30
40
50
feet
above
the
parking
lot
level
here.
Additionally,
this
is
another
site
section
through
the
building
itself,
just
kind
of
showing
the
relationship
of
of
the
the
properties
behind
the
in,
and
you
know
the
height
of
of
what
we're
proposing
here
in
terms
of
floor
plan.
Q
Let
me
zoom
out
a
little
bit:
okay,
so
existing
in
the
existing
glass
porch
there's
an
existing
Terrace
here.
So
what
we're
proposing
is
putting
a
block
on
the
back,
that's
about
the
size
of
the
existing
main
brick
portion
of
the
Inn.
These
would
also
have
some
sun
rooms
facing
the
West,
and
then
this
is
the
existing
garage
which
would
be
expanding.
The
hotel
Services
into
those
services
are
currently
in
the
basement,
and
it's
very
difficult
for
them
to
come
up
and
down
the
stairs
and
everything.
Q
The
we're
also
proposing
a
new
one-story
logia
to
connect
the
two
wings,
so
there
will
actually
be
no
hallway
connection
between
the
addition
and
the
original
in
there
are
a
couple
of
Windows
on
the
back
side
of
the
original
two-story
Edition,
which
were
added
after
the
two-story
piece
that
was
back
here
burned
out.
So
those
windows
in
the
back
are
not
original
to
this
Edition.
Q
So
there's
a
couple
of
rooms
on
the
first
floor,
which
would
be
type
B
rooms
which
are
are
somewhat
accessible
and
then
second
floor.
We
have
three
rooms,
stair
Hall
here
and
then
the
third
floor.
We
also
have
three
rooms,
but
we
brought
the
roof
down
to
lower
the
height
and
you'll,
see
that
in
the
elevations
one
thing
we
are
required
to
have
when
we
have
a
three-story
in
like
this
is
two
exits.
Q
So
for
the
first
two
floors,
the
one
exit
is
sufficient,
but
we
do
need
to
get
a
rear
exit
here
with
a
fire
escape
down
the
back
and
that
would
be
facing
the
hillside
not
visible
from
any
street
view,
and
then
we
would
have
an
egress
path
that
comes
around
around
the
back
of
the
garage
here
and
then
would
integrate
with
the
terrorists
to
allow
people
to
get
out
that
way
in
terms
of
elevations.
This
is
the
west
elevation
facing
Seneca
Way,
so
down
a
little
lower
than
this
grade.
Q
Q
So
that's
mostly
glass
and
then
the
finish
on
the
outside
of
this
is
in
keeping
with
the
finish
of
some
of
these
front
gables
on
the
original
in
and
some
of
the
back
areas,
so
that
would
be
a
painted
wood
kind
of
recessed
panel
and
then
the
railings
of
these
Terraces
from
the
third
floor
rooms
would
be
in
keeping
with
the
style
of
the
main
house
on
the
east
side.
What
we're
seeing
here
is
the
original
Inn
and
the
big
glass
porch.
Q
Here's
our
new
logia
in
front
of
the
existing
two-story
section
that
is
connecting
to
the
foyer
and
stair
Hall
of
the
three-story
section.
This
cut
line
here
is
the
existing
garage,
so
you
can
see
how
that
impacts
the
facade,
so
this
is
really
nestled
back
in
that
corner,
where
the
original
Edition
was
the
back
side.
This
is
facing
the
hillside.
This
simply
documents
the
exit
way
that
we
have
to
have.
This
is
still
all
brick
back
here.
Q
This
would
be
a
steel
fire
escape
and
allow
us
that
Second
exit
from
the
third
floor.
The
first
floor
is
actually
already
buried
in
the
hillside.
When
you
get
to
this
View
and
then
from
the
street,
the
South
elevation,
we
are
I'm
cutting
through
the
two-story
section
of
the
building.
This
is
showing
the
new
logia
that
connects
to
the
stair
Hall,
which
is
in
the
corner
of
the
Edition
here.
Q
The
addition
Rises
up
above
the
roof
line
of
the
back
two-story
area
and
I
think
we
would
do
some
kind
of
recesses
in
the
brick
or
something
to
suggest
windows
that
have
might
have
been
blocked
up
so
that
it's
not
just
a
blank
wall
and
we're
still
working
on
this
whole
facade
here,
but
the
original
in
is
actually
right
in
front
of
all
of
that.
So
we'll
tend
to
diffuse
the
view
of
that
other
pieces
are
the
existing
garage.
Q
It
has
some
nice
sliding
doors
which
Avi
actually
added,
because
there
were
no
original
doors,
I
think
they
were
from
the
70s
or
something
they
were
kind
of
trashy
looking.
So
he
upgraded
to
this.
So
these
are
not
actually
original
to
this
structure
for
the
screen.
Building.
We're
really
thinking
that
it's
more
of
a
wood
kind
of
garden
type
structure.
Q
We've
got
a
couple
of
sliding
doors
here
that
mimic
the
style
that
we've
got
on
the
garage
that
hides
the
trash
area
and
allows
the
trash
to
be
wheeled
out
very
easily
into
the
parking
lot
and
then
on
either
side,
we'll
probably
get
a
window.
This
is
the
bathroom
section,
and
this
is
the
seasonal
serving
bar
for
the
Terrace.
Q
So,
in
fact
this
is
the
the
quality
of
work.
That's
out
there
now
we're
talking
Bluestone
Terraces.
These
are
cut
Bluestone,
Treads
railings
by
Durand,
and
you
know
a
nice
Cut
Stone
wall
with
a
cap.
So
this
is
the
vocabulary
that
would
be
generally
using
for
the
Terrace
areas.
There
are
some
larger
stone
walls
on
the
site,
I
know
that
some
of
them
will
remain,
but
the
ones
on
the
hillside
where
we're
redoing,
All
The
Terraces.
Q
I
think
this
window
shot
kind
of
sums
up
the
materials
that
we
want
to
use
on
the
Edition
we're
talking
about
using
white
painted
brick
for
the
exterior.
We
would
like
to
replicate
the
flush
blue
stone
headers
over
the
windows
and
the
projecting
blue
stone
Sills,
and
then
the
windows
would
be
set
into
the
wall
with
some
kind
of
casing,
and
actually
this
casing
is
really
interesting,
because
it's
not
that
ornate.
Q
The
window
units
themselves
will
probably
be
a
Marvin
signature.
Aluminum,
clad
wood
window
with
simulated
divided
lights,
they
will
be
white
just
like
the
existing
we've
got
a
couple
of
other
window
lines
that
we
could
look
into
that
might
be
less
expensive,
but
we'd
certainly
submit
those
to
you
know
for
next
month.
We'll
make
a
decision
on
that.
Q
Q
We
want
to
use
existing
stock
trims
to
be
able
to
put
this
together,
but
in
terms
of
scale
and
character
and,
of
course,
being
painted
white
and
being
made
out
of
real
wood,
we're
looking
at
doing
a
single
freeze
with
trim
the
eve
return
and
and
the
rake
very
similar
to
what
is
there.
It
might
be
scaled
down
a
little
bit
which
would
distinguish
between
the
original
and
the
new,
while
still
being
very
complementary
to
it.
Q
Here's
a
close-up
of
the
garage
doors
that
exist
on
the
the
the
garage
currently,
that
would
be
the
style
that
we
would
use
on
the
garden
building
and
really
this
this
vertical
wood
siding
here
that
that
forms
these
panels
kind
of
inspired
the
idea
of
using
the
wood
on
the
the
screen
building,
but
we
would
use
like
a
horizontal,
either
clapboard
or
a
shiplap
to
create
that
element,
and
then
one
other
thing
I
wanted
to
run
by
you.
Folks,
we
are
contemplating
offices
for
staff.
Q
Oh,
this
is
sorry
I'm
on
a
track
pad
instead
of
a
mouse,
it's
kind
of
tough,
so
inspired
by
the
fact
that
there
was
a
greenhouse
there,
which
kind
of
stuck
out
here
in
front
of
the
garage.
Originally,
we
were
thinking
that
we
could
use
some
salvaged
windows
from
the
original
porches
and
create
kind
of
a
glass
box
on
top
of
the
existing
garage.
So
this
would
be
offices
for
the
staff
of
the
Inn.
Q
It
would
give
them
a
comfortable
place
to
to
deal
with
business
matters
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
the
windows
that
are
on
the
East
face
of
the
Edition.
Those
would
be
moved
to
the
back
so
that
that
room
would
have
kind
of
the
woods
view,
instead
of
looking
out
over
the
roof
of
of
the
garage,
and
so
so
anyway.
We
wanted
your
feedback
on
that
idea
and,
of
course,
all
of
the
rest
of
this.
Q
A
Q
D
You
have
to
just
make
one
correctly,
which
is
that
the
the
windows
for
the
proposed
Solarium
on
the
second
floor
of
the
carriage
house,
they're
not
actually
from
the
original
building
I,
would
perhaps
the
big
photo
I
sent
you
where
I
was
a
little
misleading,
because
I
windows
that
I
purchased,
with
the
thought
of
putting
them
in
the
porch
to
enclose
the
porch.
So
the
pictures
were
of
them
like
propped
up
in
the
porch,
but
they
are
historic.
Windows
that
I
have
on
hand
to
be
able
to
close.
That.
K
Q
H
D
I
do
intend
on
talking
with
the
neighbors,
but
I
haven't
actually
made
the
rounds
yet
to
discuss
it
with
the
neighbors
I.
Think
neighbors
will
be
most
interested
or
possibly
concerned
about
the
patio
being
moved,
but
really
that's
not
as
as
far
as
that's
not
too
much
of
a
change
really
because
it's
roughly
the
same
size,
Patty
or
maybe
even
a
touch
smaller,
the
outdoor
patio.
Q
Right,
the
the
existing
patio
is
actually
right
in
here,
where
the
the
addition
is
going
so
we're
moving
it
Eastward
and
Scott's
going
to
work
on
on.
You
know,
plantings
and
Landscaping
and
extra
trees
and
and
replacing
trees
that
we
take
down
and
all
that
sort
of
thing,
so
you
know
I
think
that's
going
to
be
in
good
hands.
B
D
Thank
you.
Yeah
I
really
debated
between
two
stories,
which
it
probably
was
originally
or
three
stories
and
I.
Don't
want
it
to
compete
with
the
mutable
historic
brick
building
in
the
front
debated
between
stucco
sighting
and
the
back,
Edition
is
or
the
or
the
brick
and
I
I
don't
know,
I
think
it
is
set
back
far
enough
that
from
the
stream
really
will
still
be
the
the
front
portion.
That
is
the
most
noticeable
feedback
back
Edition
will
be
somewhat
hidden,
and
you
know
unless
you're
on
the
patio
or
the
parking
lot
well,.
F
E
B
F
D
Is
it
yeah
that
does
seem
balanced
about?
It
is
what
I
thought
as
well
yeah.
We
would
debated,
also
a
perhaps
well
yeah
two
stories,
or
they
sketched
out
something
that's
more
like
two
and
a
half
kind
of
actually.
The
front
was
originally
two
stories
with
an
addict
that
was
expanded
with
the
Dormers
and,
and
we
did
that
sketch
instead
of
two
and
a
half
stories
like
two
stories
with
two
rooms
that
fit
in
like
under
the
peaked
room
on
the
sort
of
food.
D
E
K
D
We're
not
actually
sure
if
Carriage
House
garage
is
in
the
period
of
significance
or
not
yet,
but
it's
it's
interesting.
It's
really
a
comp
job,
different
materials.
The
back
wall
is
concrete
and
it's
mostly
cinder
block,
and
it
has
some
old
brick
in
the
front
and,
in
my
opinion,
adding
these
historic
Windows
as
a
Solarium
on
the
second
floor
would
make
it
like
a
real,
beautiful,
looking
sort
of
gem
on
the
structure
rather
than
just
sort
of
they
wouldn't
really
improve.
The
look
at
the
carriage
house.
Q
I
I
think
appreciate
things
like
the
change
in
freeze
size,
the
sensitivity
of
that
all
the
way
to
the
larger
considerations
that
you've
given
and
I
appreciate
that
I
think
also.
The
addition
at
the
North
End
of
the
parking
area
will
be
helpful
in
defining
that
space
and
making
the
cars
themselves
and
the
paid
payment
less
prominent.
I
I
would
note
also
I
did
look
at
the
1929
Sanborn,
and
that
does
show
two
garages
back
there.
One
appears
to
be
a
one-car
garage
and
then
a
slight
distance
to
the
east.
There
appears
to
be
perhaps
a
two-car
garage
and
they
were
in
there
in
29,
which
would
mean
that
would
be
after
the
additionals
and
residential
or
more
intense
residential.
E
Would
nobody
who
studied
the
Greek
Revival
would
be
like
man,
that
is
that
you
know
dates
to
1860
or
1850
or
whatever
it
just
doesn't
read
that
way
to
me,
but
what
I?
What
I
always
do
appreciate,
seeing,
although
we've
never
actually
I,
don't
know
if
maybe
we've
required
it
with
a
carriage
Barn
I.
Think
maybe
I
got
that
through
one
time
is
I,
always
I
always
like
to
see
when,
when
when
Property
Owners
will
put
up
a
date
marker,
you
know
date
established
or
something
like
that
on
additions.
E
Is
a
facade
overall
just
because
frequently
materiality,
for
instance,
the
project
we
looked
at
earlier
this
evening
was
a
report
was
being
used
that
was
mimicking
the
or
a
porch
from
the
the
main
facade,
but
it
was
a
secondary
porch.
The
materiality
you
would
never
mistake
that
rear
porch
as
being
original
to
the
structure
because
of
its
materiality
there's
just
no
way
you
would
you
would
there
would
be
confusion
over
that.
So
I
wondered
if
there's
any
materiality
that
you're
planning
to
incorporate
with
the
addition
that
would
help
differentiate
the
period
of
time.
Q
Q
D
E
Ahead
or
anything
like
that,
and
so
I
think
I
think
complementary
without
necessary.
If
you,
if
you
find
you're,
not
able
to
replicate
complementary
I
think
is,
is
perfectly
suitable
but,
like
you
said,
I
think
just
the
the
fenestration,
the
detailing
it's
clearly
a
much
more
articulate
than
the
historic
structure
is
it's
I
think
it
that
alone
will
differentiate
it
to
the
to
the
Discerning
Eye.
Okay,.
Q
E
H
I
I
I
Yeah
yeah,
because
I
think
one
thing
I
tend
to
look
more
when
I'm,
coming
downhill
or
walking.
Uphill
tend
to
look
more
at
the
side
of
the
building
and
the
parking
lot
than
I
do
the
front
of
the
building
the
front
of
the
building
sort
of
sits
back
and
is
more
subdued
and
I
wish.
I
would
notice
that
more
but
I'm
not
sure
how
that
would
happen.
H
K
A
A
A
A
D
C
I
will
say
this
if
you've
ever
had
a
hard
time
reading,
something
that's
on
like
11x17
..
If
you
refer
back
to
the
electronic
copy,
I
do
what's
called
right
size
them
so
that
they
print
and
they'll
render
like
they're
in
eight
and
a
half
by
eleven,
but
I
find
that
most
of
the
time,
if
I
get
a
high
quality
PDF,
you
can
actually
Zoom
way
in
to
the
to
the
PDFs,
and
you
can
get
down
into
detail
that
you
can't
necessarily
see
on
Google
print
out.
So.
D
A
If
there,
if
there
are
some
that
that
absolutely
prefer
the
electronic
copy,
let
me
know
and
I'll
make
sure
that
I
send
you
a
notice
every
time
there's
an
electronic
copy
available,
but
I
won't
send
you
a
hard
copy:
okay,
okay
and
then
the
last
item
is
the
Statewide
start.
Preservation
conference
is
Thursday
and
Friday
of
this
of
this
week.
I
heard
some
of
you
talking
about
attending.
A
E
For
the
national
preservation
conference
is
coming
up
too
I,
don't
remember
the
exact
date,
but
I
got
a
notification
on
that.
It's
electronic
this
year
or
it's
it's
remote
this
year
and
it's
November
1st
through
the
4th
and
if
for
early
bird
pricing,
it's
only
ninety
dollars
to
attend.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
interesting
I
thought
there
were
a
lot
of
interesting
topics
being
covered
this
year.
Mary.
Thank
you.
Mary.