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A
B
C
All
set
okay
notices
hereby
given
I
said
forth
in
City
Municipal
Code,
section
228
11
period
by
the
LPC
at
6,
PM
Tuesday,
December,
20th
2022
in
common
council
chambers
at
108,
speed,
Supreme,
speed
of
Ithaca
and
also
conducted
remotely
using
video
conferencing
technology
at
which
Family
Clinic
initiative
will
consider
the
following
applications
for
material
changes
and
or
alteration
408
East,
State,
Street,
East,
Philadelphia,
historic
district
proposal
to
constructing
three-story
Edition
on
the
North
elevation,
Sibley
Hall
920
University
Avenue
proposal
to
replace
the
cornice
on
the
Dome,
replace
the
windows
in
the
12
Lantern.
C
Those
are
the
second
and
third
stories
below
infill
two
window:
openings
in
the
Second
Story
on
the
North
motivation
and
install
a
large
contemporary
window
in
the
second
story
of
the
north
relegation,
the
Arts
Library.
What
happened
to
the
U.S
library
161?
Oh
Plaza,
AG,.
C
E
F
If
I
can
share
my
screen,
yes,
okay,
no,
it's
disabled!
Right
now,.
F
All
right,
I
guess
I
mean
you
folks
are
familiar
with
the
site
and
the
project,
so
I
won't
I
won't
present.
All
of
all
of
that.
But
basically,
since
we
met
a
couple
of
months
ago,
we've
made
a
few
design
changes
a
suit,
a
few
recite
refinements,
based
on
a
lot
based
on
cost,
and
we
have
also
started
working
with
Witham
planning
for
the
the
the
new
Terraces
to
kind
of
get
that
refined.
F
And
apparently
we
are
on
planning
board
tonight
as
well,
so
I'll
just
get
into
the
site
plan.
So
last
time
this
whole
Terrace
area
was
very
vague,
but
widham
has
actually
created
a
really
wonderful
landscape
here.
That
has
basically
two
levels
to
it,
and
you
know
some
stone
walls
and
what
we've
done
is
created
spaces
that
you
know
where
people
can
kind
of
congregate.
But
there's
there's
little
niches
like
there's
a
couple
of
tables
over
here.
A
couple
over
here.
F
There's
a
nice
circular
area
here.
So
this
this
whole
Terrace
isn't
some
big.
You
know
Plaza,
it's
nicely
broken
up
with
landscaping
and
more
intimate
kind
of
spots
and
we've
also
got
you
know.
The
trees
on
the
Hill
are
are
certainly
still
there.
F
We
have
actually
modified
the
footprint
a
little
bit
and
I'll
get
into
that,
and
that
has
affected
the
elevations
I
think
in
a
positive
way,
I'll
just
direct
your
attention
here
to
the
section
that
that
cuts
basically
through
this
area
here,
so
you
can
see
the
service
building
that
we
have
proposed
and
you
can
get
a
sense
of
of
the
scale
and
intimacy
of
the
various
Terrace
levels
that
you
know
we're
proposing
for
the
hillside.
F
F
So
you
know
Avi
and
stream
kind
of
felt
that
this
created
a
better
balance
between
the
existing
main
building
and
the
new
building,
so
that
it
doesn't
dominate
the
existing
building
as
much
as
it
could
have
if
it
was
a
full
three
stories.
So
that's
really
the
most
significant
change,
but
I
will
go
through
all
of
the
plans
and
elevations
right
now
and
point
out
specifics.
F
Okay.
So
on
the
first
floor,
we
now
have
three
guest
rooms
on
the
first
floor,
we're
using
the
original
garage
which,
by
the
way,
Mary
Tomlin,
told
me
that
this
garage
was
built
in
1929.
So
since
the
period
of
significance
extends
to
1930,
you
know,
there's
even
more
onus
on
us
respecting
the
idea
that
that
is
a
is
a
contributing
piece
of
this
project.
F
To
remind
you
that
we
have
are.
We
are
building
a
logia
here
in
front
of
the
existing
back
portion
of
the
building
to
connect
the
old
to
the
new
and
we
are
retaining
the
existing
Terrace
with
a
couple
of
modifications
around
this
area
so
that
we
can
provide
an
accessible
route
around
here
to
the
logia
into
the
building.
Where
people
don't
have
to
go
through
the
entry
and
then
come
back
out,
so
we
go
up
to
the
upper
floors.
We
have
four
rooms
on
the
second
floor.
F
That's
because
we
need
to
retain
a
blank
wall
here,
Facing
East,
because
over
the
top
of
the
the
garage
we're
proposing
a
future
glass
Edition
that
would
be
Hotel
administrative
offices
that
can
be
accessed
from
a
stair
from
the
first
floor
and
doesn't
have
to
come
through
here,
but
as
you'll
see
in
the
elevations,
that's
going
to
be
a
blank
wall
for
a
little
while,
until
we
can
do
this,
this
later
phase
and
and
I
think
we
showed
you
that
glass
Edition
previously
so
third
floor
is
basically
in
the
roof,
and
you
can
see
here.
F
We
have
a
big
shed
Dormer
across
the
back
facing
the
woods
and
we
still
have
our
exterior
fire
stair
and
the
whole
egress
route
that
goes
down
through
the
Terrace
area.
On
the
front,
we
have
a
couple
of
shed
Dormers
facing
south,
and
you
know
basically,
we've
reversed
the
ridge
so
that
our
Ridge
is
running
in
the
same
direction
as
the
original
building
and
we'll
that'll
be
obvious
in
the
elevations
which
we're
getting
to
right
now.
So
this
is
the
west
elevation
facing
the
Seneca
Way
apartment
building,
and
you
know
along
this
side.
F
Of
course,
we
have
that
big,
concrete
retaining
wall
that
we
have
everything
sitting
on
top
of,
but
this
really
shows
how
the
new
building
kind
of
Echoes
the
original
building,
but
the
windows,
the
doors.
F
Everything
is
a
slightly
smaller
scale
so
that,
even
though
we're
kind
of
we're
building
in
the
same
tradition
we
are
trying
to
make
it
look
like
it
is,
is
definitely
a
unique,
a
separate
building
and
that
it
was
built
at
a
separate
time
than
the
original,
because
the
original
has
much
larger
windows
and
we're
looking
at
the
same
proportions,
the
same
kinds
of
materials
and
detailing,
but
just
a
like
a
little
bit
scaled
down,
so
that
you
can
distinguish
between
the
two
on
the
east
side,
which
is
the
side
that
most
people
are
going
to
interact
with.
F
F
It
does
have
quite
a
bit
of
glass,
but
actually
both
sides
of
these
have
less
glass
than
we
showed
before,
because
there
was
a
comment
about
it,
definitely
not
being
similar
to
the
existing,
because
there
was
so
much
glass-
and
you
know
the
glass
area
has
been
reduced
over
here,
because
we
removed
the
sun
room
porches
because
of
a
slight
shift
on
the
site.
We
actually
now
have
outdoor
Terraces
there,
so
it
is
presenting
less
glass
and
it's
looking
a
little
bit
more
traditional
on
the
east
side.
F
Here
this
dashed
line
represents
where
the
office
Edition
is
going
to
go
on
top
of
the
existing
garage,
and
this
shows
that
blank
wall
I
think
once
the
office
Edition
is
built.
It's
not
going
to
be
such
a
big
deal,
and
you
know
this.
This
facade
is
perhaps
not
as
organized
as
the
previous
one,
but
it
does
have
a
quirkiness
that
the
existing
building
actually
has
there's
a
wide
variety
of
different
window
sizes
and
such
on
the
original
building
and
they're.
F
Also,
you
know
a
shed
Dormer
on
the
back,
there's
actually
dormers
on
the
front,
so
we
kind
of
felt
like
you
know
these
shed
Dormers
facing
the
front
weren't
a
big
deal
either,
and
you
know
we
we've
introduced
some
variety
of
window
sizes
as
we
go
to
the
back.
This
area
faces
the
woods.
This
is
the
fire
escape.
F
The
whole
first
floor
is
actually
Underground
at
this
point,
and
then
this
is
the
shed
Dormer
giving
light
into
the
attic
area
into
those
those
third
floor
rooms
on
the
south
side,
we're
doing
a
section
cut
here
through
the
new
logia
and
the
existing
back
portion
of
the
building.
This
shows
the
height
relationship
between
that
portion
and
the
new
addition,
and
then
these
are
the
shed
Dormers,
where
we
have
a
room
back
here
and
there's
a
bathroom
over
here.
F
This
view
also
shows
us,
the
the
glass
Edition
that
will
be
put
over
the
garage
and
basically
the
existing
garage
with
the
cornice
and
the
the
doors
are
going
to
be
retained,
even
though
we're
actually
enclosing
that,
as
as
actual
heated
space,
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
these
doors
intact.
Even
though
these
are
new,
they
actually
look
more
historic
than
the
ones
that
were
there
when
Avi
actually
purchased
the
building.
F
We
also
have
this
service
building,
which
is
going
to
include
a
serving
bar
for
food,
a
serving
bar
for
liquor.
It's
going
to
hide
the
trash
and
it's
going
to
create
some
storage
areas
for
all
of
those
tables
that
are
outside
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
we're
trying
to
be
very
symmetrical
because
this
is
actually
centered
on
the
driving
aisle
of
the
the
parking
area.
So
it
gives
a
very
formal
kind
of
termination
to
that
parking
area,
and
it
also
gives
some
shelter
to
the
Terrace.
F
That's
behind
it
I
also
added
a
North
elevation,
so
this
is
not
seen
from
the
street,
but
this
is
actually
seen
from
the
Terrace.
So
these
larger
garage
doors
here
will
actually
swing
upward
and
create
canopies
over
the
food
serving
area
and
the
serving
bar.
F
F
You
know
and
having
some
trellises
here
with
maybe
some
wisteria
or
some
kind
of
vines
to
really
kind
of
soften
it
up
and
and
provide
something
interesting
at
the
end
of
the
parking
lot.
So
you're
not
focused
on
the
cars
you
folks
have
seen
this
before.
But
this
is
our
materials
board
and
again
to
reiterate
that
we
are
striving
to
build
this
with
brick.
F
However,
budget
is
going
to
be
a
major
major
concern,
especially
since
the
prices
of
everything
have
gone
up,
so
there
is
a
potential
that
our
brick
exterior
might
become
stucco,
similar
to
The
Back
Edition
that
exists
currently
off
of
the
existing
building,
but,
like
I,
said
we're
going
to
strive
to
to
try
to
afford
the
brick,
we
are
still
going
to
retain
the
blue,
stone,
headers
and
Sills,
and
we're
still
going
to
replicate
at
a
slightly
smaller
scale.
This
beautiful
trim
work
that's
on
the
existing
building.
F
F
F
G
B
H
How
does
the
overall
footprint
of
this
main
block
compared
to
the
previous
presentation
in
September
as
a
notice,
it
shifted,
is.
F
So
so
we
have
a
10-foot
setback
that
we
have
to
respect
here
and
originally
we
had
a
a
sun
room,
a
pair
of
sun
rooms
that
jutted
out
from
these
two
hotel
rooms
and
then
I
think
we
were
a
little
bit.
Let
me
we
might
have
been
further
forward
here.
Forgive
me,
I!
Don't
have
that
in
my
head
and
I'm
I'm
from
home
here.
So
I
don't
have
the
other
drawings
in
front
of
me.
F
Basically,
the
you
know
this
corner
which
respects
the
backyard
setback
and
this
corner
which
respects
the
side,
yard
setback,
hasn't
really
changed.
F
F
D
Well,
the
original,
the
original
or
the
one
that
we
proposed
before
had
the
the
East
wall.
Basically,
the
two
Carriage
House
being
more
on
the
same
plane
as
the
the
front
of
the.
F
J
G
D
The
well
the
center's
actually.
K
G
D
F
And
also
pushing
it
back
like
that
also
allowed
us
to
to
expand
it
a
tiny
bit
north,
so
it
kind
of
changed
the
proportions.
It
also
simplified.
The
footprint
which.
D
I
Is
is
the
the
terracing
and
the
patio
areas
that
in
our
purview.
A
I
Yeah
I
I
feel
as
if
I
understand
the
the
profile
of
the
building,
the
new
building
and
the
logic
well
and
and
I
like
it
a
lot
but
I
don't
understand
how
the
parasing
works
could
could
we
get
walked
through
that.
F
I
think
we
have
someone
from
whitham
here
who
might
be
able
to
do
that?
Do
we.
G
F
Board
meeting
later,
okay
I'll
try
my
best
here
so
darn.
It
can
stop.
I
E
F
Oh
okay,
I
just
see
yeah,
it's
a
cursor
like
a
word
cursor
anyway.
So
here's
the
new
edition.
This
is
the
existing
Terrace.
That's
pretty
much
going
to
stay
the
same,
except
for
this
corner,
and
this
area
in
front
of
the
garage
is
also
going
to
stay.
Basically
the
same.
It's
just
a
kind
of
a
big
open.
You
know
area
with
stone.
F
Pavers
then,
as
you
get
further
over
here,
we're
going
to
use
stone
dust
to
give
it
like
a
softer
feel,
and
then
the
I
showed
you
the
materials
for
the
retaining
wall.
That's
what
these
big
rocks
are
here.
F
So
this
is
the
retaining
wall,
just
kind
of
curving
into
the
Hillside
and
actually
connecting
to
a
set
of
stairs
that
goes
up
to
the
Warehouse
next
door,
because
they
they
have
a
fire
exit
here,
and
we
want
them
to
to
maintain
exit
access
down
through
here
and
out
into
the
parking
area,
so
they
can
get
to
the
street.
F
But
that
does
give
us
the
opportunity
to
have
an
upper
level
Terrace
with
a
shorter
wall
that
just
kind
of
cuts
into
the
hillside
in
the
back
and
then
runs
along
behind
the
garage
to
provide
us
with
our
egress
from
the
second
and
third
floors.
The
second
floor
exits
out
here
and
the
third
floor-
comes
down
these
stairs
and
has
to
exit
out
back
this
way.
F
So
that's
why
we're
kind
of
developing
this
area,
so
there
would
be
some
stone
dust
area,
some
Landscaping
short
retaining
wall
here
and
then
the
exit
pathway
also
comes
down.
These
very
gracious
round
stairs,
which
you
know,
is
a
great
way
to
get
up
and
down
to
these,
these
nice
little
seating
areas
with
planting
at
the
top
of
the
retaining
walls.
I
think
the
section
actually
shows
it
quite
nicely
here.
F
You
know
with
this
being
the
lower
stone
dust
area.
This
is
a
rather
high
wall,
but
there's
you
know,
tables
and
Landscaping,
and
that
sort
of
thing
in
front
of
it,
and
then
this
is
where
the
stairs
come
up
and
there's
an
upper
level
and
then
a
very
short
retaining
wall.
Here
it's
it's
almost
to
the
point
where
you
could
hike
up
and
sit
on
it.
F
So
does
that
help
the
understanding
are
there?
Other
questions
still.
D
Yeah,
this
isn't
so
relevant.
The
intention
is
to
make
Big
Wide
Doors
in
the
warehouse
over
here
to
open
up
out
here
right
in
this
single
door.
That's
back
here
so
it'll
really
feel
like
it's.
It's
nice
it'll
be
a
patio,
an
outdoor
space
going
to
the
warehouse
as
well
yeah.
The
stone
dust
is
what
we
have
on
the
back
patio.
Now,
there's
no
pavers
back
there.
D
Now
it's
just
the
1A,
Stone
and
yeah
one
other
thing
we
didn't
point
out
is
the
reason
this
is
notched
out
on
the
south
east
corner
of
the
Edition
is
the
intention
to
be
able
to
walk
walk
through
there
have
more.
In
the
first
floor,
you
don't
enter
the
building
until
you
get
up
to
the
line,
so
you
can
activate
the
archway,
so
you
can
walk
through
the
corner
of
the
building
to
more
easily
just
walk
up
here
or
walk
up
here
and
through
over
to
here,
but.
D
F
So,
okay,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
the
floor
plan
plan
will
be
updated
so
that
we
have
this
as
an
open
area.
This,
apparently
wasn't
wasn't
updated,
but
it
definitely
works.
We
will
move
the
entry
door
from
here
to
here
where
it
says,
entry
and
442.
So
so,
basically,
the
existing
wall
of
the
rear
edition
of
the
the
existing
stucco
Edition
will
carry
right
through
underneath
the
new
edition,
and
then
this
corner
column
will
end
up
being.
F
You
know
like
a
brick
Pier,
maybe
with
some
stone
or
some
kind
of
you
know
interesting
thing
on
it.
F
F
G
K
F
Will
be
connected
on
the
first
floor,
okay,
which
I
can
I'm
sorry
about
this
I
have
a
track
pad
so
on
the
first
floor,
you're
going
to
be
able
to
go
into
the
the
hotel
admin
area
by
by
coming
under
here
and
going
outside.
So
there's
an
outside
entrance
to
that
first
floor
area
and
then
they're
connected
down
here
where
there's
an
office
which
has
a
window
well
and
an
egress
window,
a
private
bathroom
that
sort
of
thing
so
until
the
office
Edition
is
built
on
top
of
the
existing
garage.
F
This
is
basically
you
know
the
the
administration
office,
and
then
you
can
see
this
staircase,
that's
dashed
in
here.
That
will
bring
you
up
to
the
second
floor.
Edition,
oh
and
I
I
forgot
to
mention
that
we
are
also
putting
a
multi-user
restroom
in
the
garage
because
we
needed
a
certain
number
of
fixtures
to
serve
the
number
of
people
that
we're
going
to
add.
F
D
F
Right
but
it
will
definitely
be
more
convenient
for
all
the
users
of
that
Terrace,
because
right
now
they
have
to
go
into
the
building
then
around
through
the
crowded
bar
and
and
to
these
restrooms
over
here
deep
within
the
building.
So
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
great
Improvement
for
the
experience
of
the
the
whole
Terrace
thing.
H
F
We
will
slide
the
garage
door
open
to
allow
access
through
here
when
the
Terrace
is
in
use,
but
then,
when
you
know
when
the
bar
is
closed,
that
can
be
slid
closed
to
retain
the
appearance
of
a
carriage
house.
F
So,
oh
you
know
what
this
this
isn't
showing
the
door
there.
There
is
going
to
be
a
door
here,
but
I
believe
there
is
a
garage
door
there
now.
F
Okay,
so
that's
not
much
of
a
change
and
then
the
bathroom
door
is
behind
this
sliding
door,
so
this
this
door
here
would
slide
in
front
of
that.
One
reveal
that
door
and
we
do
something
nice
behind
that,
probably
just
something
white,
maybe
that
matches
the
wood
finish.
The
white
painted
wood
finish
on
the
service
building,
but
the
major
change
that's
going
to
happen
is
just
kind
of
the
cutting
off
of
this
end,
which
is
concrete
block
anyway.
F
So
really
this
Center
portion
here.
This
is
the
more
attractive
part
of
that
structure
and
then
the
cornice
would
be
retained,
but
then
we
would
put
this
glass
Edition
on
top
of
it.
So
I
think
that's
really
the
major
change,
but
that
is
happening
in
the
future.
K
So
I'm
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
I
am
clear
of
what
what
you're
proposing
so
the
are
you
are
you
planning
to
use
the
exterior
feature,
the
sliding
the
the
doors
that
they
currently
exist,
or
are
you
replacing
them.
M
H
Well,
Ryan
this
elevation
there's
something
screwy
about
that
corner
where
the
new
logia
runs
into
the
new
editions
on
the
elevation
and
the
elevation
is
showing
like
10
feet
and
on
the
plane
is
showing
like
six
feet.
Yeah.
F
F
Yes,
this
portion
here
which
we're
covering
with
stucco,
would
have
that
man
door
in
it
to
get
into
the
administration
area,
and
this
wall
would
be
slid
back
four
feet
and
this
whole
Mass
here
goes
back
four
feet.
A
C
D
Yeah,
that's
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna.
It
could
be
done
in
two
phases:
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
get
prices
on
contractors
and
and
see
what
the
and
see
what
the
cost
is.
It'd
be
nice
to
do
it
all
in
one
phase
as
possible
under
two
phases.
D
D
F
D
Yeah,
it's
too
bad.
We
don't
have
a
plan
for
that
interior
portion
I'm.
Sure
people
would
like
to
see
that.
F
F
A
D
D
Would
be
even
though
it
may
be
done,
I
wouldn't
think
it
was
being
more
than
a
year
later
yeah.
It
would
be
nice.
A
H
In
I
would
say:
I
I
have
to
have
two
I
have
two
concerns
about
this
design
on
the
west.
You
previously
had
some
sun
rooms
and
now
you've
been
replaced
by
like
these
little,
what
I
call
false
balconies.
You
know
you
find
them
on
City
Center
and
on
the
Ironworks
building,
but
I'm
not
sure
they're
appropriate
for
this
building,
those
those
balconies
or
what
put
out
from
the
doors
just.
F
About
a
foot
right,
we're
we're
up
against
the
side
yard
set
back
there,
otherwise
it
would
probably
be
a
porcher
or
we'd
bring
back
the
sun
rooms.
Unfortunately,
we
just
don't
have
that
space.
H
I
sort
of
just
sort
of
a
change
of
mind
that
those
balconies
that
are
like
six
inches
in
front
of
a
sliding
glass
door
and
that's
it
I,
mean
I,
know
they're
all
their.
Ladies,
these
days,
the
other.
My
other
concern
while
I'm
is,
is
the
the
fire
where
the
fire
escape
comes
up
and
meets
the
corners
of
the
north
side.
It
like
chops
away
the
cornice
and
then
there's
the
exit
door
chopping
right
through
the
cornice,
and
it's
kind
of
a
difficult
detail
on
the
on
the
North
side.
F
That's
definitely
the
messy
side
and
it's
because
we're
up
against
the
rear
yard
setback,
which
is
diagonal
so
that
stair,
actually,
let
me
go
to
the
plan
foreign.
So
you
see
this
diagonal
here.
That's
actually
the
setback
clipping
that
side
of
the
staircase,
which
has
to
be
behind
the
setback
the
overhangs
don't
have
to
be
so.
F
Unfortunately,
you
have
to
come
out
of
the
door
and
have
Headroom
over
here.
These
overhangs
are
24
inches,
deep
and
I
believe
the
overhangs
on
the
existing
building
are
somewhat
like
30.,
so
it's
a
little
more
scaled
down,
but
we're
only
allowed
a
24
inch
overhang
into
the
setback
which
happens
over
here
at
this
corner.
F
So
so
we're
just
really
squeezed
and
we
didn't
want
to
push
the
building
back
beyond
the
rear
yard
setback
just
to
be
able
to
respect
the
woods
and
the
Neighbors
in
the
back
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
this
will
not
be
visible
because
the
trees
are
pretty
dense
there
and
we
can
enhance
the
planting
back
there
as
well
with
with
something.
If,
if
there's
a
concern.
F
Scratched
my
head
over
this
for
a
long
time.
It's
just
that
the
the
Eve
is
up
higher
than
the
floor
and
the
stairs
are
pushed
against
the
building.
So
we
we
have
to
be
able
to
get
people
out
of
here
and
have
Headroom
past
this
thing.
If
this
stuck
out
over
the
stairs,
the
stairs
would
basically
be
a
foot
wide,
so
I
I'm,
not
sure.
If
there's
anything,
we
can
do
I
mean
other
than
maybe
cutting
this.
This
overhang
back.
F
All
the
way
across
the
problem
is
on
the
west
side
and
the
East
Side
you
you
need
to
have
this
visually
to
to
have
it
make
sense
if
we
shorten
the
overhang,
it's
going
to
look
really
goofy
in
my
opinion,
and
you
can
see
how
far
the
the
end
overhang
sticks
out
over
the
stairs
and
at
a
certain
point
you
climb
up
the
stairs.
You
bump
your
head
on
the
overhang
and
we
can't
force
the
stairs
out
because
the
rear
yard
set
back.
F
I,
actually,
yes,
we
could.
We
could
push
the
stair
out
from
the
building
run
that
Eve
straight
across
other
than
it
being
interrupted
by
the
door,
but
we
could
do
something
cute
over
the
door,
maybe,
but
because
this
wasn't
a
visible
elevation
and
it
is
half
buried
in
the
hillside.
F
E
I
To
close
I
will
be
posted
discussion.
Second
interview.
C
C
D
The
goal
is
to
begin
in
roughly
a
year
from
now,
next,
all
right
more
like
next
November,
the
things
that
performed
have
played
pretty
well.
For
that
to
happen,
the
responsibility
wouldn't
be
until
2024.,
okay,.
E
So
the
planning
board
and
a
lot
of
weight
piggybacks
on
what
the
iopc
determines
in
terms
of
building
designs,
I
plan
and
the
like,
so
they
would
prefer
for
us
to
have
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
before
the
lead
finish
finalize
their
review
again,
it's
just
a
presentation
to
the
planning
board
this
evening,
so
a
determination
by
the
impc
is
not
required
for
them
to
start
the
planning
board
process.
M
My
tendency
is
to
agree
with
what
Steve
has
said
about
being
a
little
unclear
about
the
various
changes.
I
did
look,
I'm,
not
sure.
M
M
Factor
from
some
of
my
concerns,
I
still
I,
like
by
the
way
I
do
like
the
landscape
changes.
I
think
that's
all
very
good
and
I
really
appreciate
what
you've
done
with
the
intermediate
building
I
think
that's
a
real
good
addition
to
this
project,
I'm
feeling
a
little
uncertain
about
a
specific
sense.
H
H
Positive
I
said
you
know:
I
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
the
the
bearing
plate
or
the
cornice
line
has
come
down
significantly
from
the
previous,
which
is
one
of
which
is
one
of
the
things
I
suggested
in
September,
so
that
I
think
having.
K
So
if
I'm
hearing
you
both
graduate
you
are
you
conceptually?
Okay
with
the
broad
scale
design
with
looking
for
more
Nuance
on
particular
details.
Is
that
because
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
if,
even
if
we
don't
really
think
the
board
isn't
ready
to
have
a
certificate
or
appropriate
is
tonight,
I
think
would
be
helpful
for
the
planning
board
to
get
a
clear
message
from
us.
C
I
Wanted
to
make
sure
I'm
with
that
on
that
I
mean
I'm,
I'm,
even
more
enthusiastic,
I
think
I.
Think
it's
a
great
project,
I
I
think
it's
going
to
look.
It
is
certainly
going
to
dress
up
cynical
way.
Good,
Lord
and
I
think
it'll
be
very
attractive
from
the
East
as
well.
I
think
the
the
parasite
is
is
really
beautiful.
Addition
and
I
I
just
think
all
around
it's
a
great
project,
I'm
with
Steve
that
it
that
we
probably
should
understand
some
of
the
details.
I
said.
I
K
And
I
would
agree
with
you,
I'm
I'm,
very
enthusiastic
about
it
as
well.
I
think
that
it
would
be
helpful
to
to
give
the
owner
specific
and
architect
specific
things
like
I
would
personally
like
to
see
more
of
the
material.
The
material
usage
in
terms
of
I
think
the
exact
window
like
I,
see
I'm
using
one
as
an
example,
you
have
the
windows,
but
what
kind
of
features
finishes
things
like
that
would
be
would
be
very
helpful
to
have
a
little
bit
more
finalized
and
what
else?
A
H
This
one's
showing
it
out
10
feet
this
one
joke,
has
six
feet
and
just
more
like
design,
development,
drawings
right,
but.
K
F
The
the
existing
rear
Edition
is
already
stucco,
so
there
would
be
a
continuation
of
that
surface
and
texture.
K
F
That
it's
a
detail
that
I
think
we
have
to
refine
okay.
If
the
back
Edition
is
Brick,
if
it's
stucco
it's
much
simpler,
obviously,
but
I
think
we
can
develop
some
specific
views
that
will
answer
your
questions.
There
yeah.
B
A
E
At
this
point,
the
best
thing
to
do
is
table
it
and
I
know
that
you're
going
upstairs
to
the
planning
board
to
discuss
the
project
this
evening,
I
think
it's
safe
to
say
that
you
can
say
that
the
commission
supports
the
size
and
master
the
building,
the
site
layout
and
the
general
materials.
E
But
you
need
further
refinement
on
details
and
placement
of
materials,
types
of
materials,
and
so
whether
it's
stucco
or
brick
or
either
sounds
I.
Think
that's
something
that
you
should
come
with
a
firm
Proposal
with
whether
you're
going
with
stuccola
brick,
and
that
would
be
so.
The
commission
has
a
material
to
approve,
and
if
that
changes,
you
can
always
apply
for
a
modification
of
your
certificate
of
appropriateness.
If
you
need
to
change
that
in
the
future,
okay
sure.
G
E
M
And
I
couldn't
pass
around
here
some
things
that
I
have
promised
Rob
Morris
that
I
give
him
a
copy
of,
and
I
haven't,
had
a
chance
to
do
that.
But
it's
an
early
showing
the
same
view
that,
as
is
in
this
but
from
up
above
and
that's,
what's
really
characterizes
the
west
elevation.
Well,
I'm
always
excited.
E
The
next
one,
foreign.
C
I
J
A
J
J
I'm,
first
going
to
walk
you
through
a
critical
maintenance
project
that
we
have
at
the
Euros
library
on
McGraw
Tower.
It's
an
envelope
renewal
project
actually
on
your
agenda.
I.
Take
that
back.
You
flipped
it
on
me
and
so
I
am
first
going
to
be
working
with
Dan
and
Amal
on
our
Sibley
Hall
Dome
restoration
project.
J
So
let
me
open
up
the
discussion
and
then
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Dan
and
Amal.
Dan
wood
and
Amal
Andros
are
partners
with
work
AC,
a
distinguished
New,
York,
City,
Architecture
Firm.
That
has
done
many
Restorations
and
transformations
to
historic
buildings,
and
they
have
teamed
with
Janet
null.
Many
of
you
are
aware
of
Janet's
work
at
Argus
architecture
over
in
Troy,
New
York.
J
She
did
an
early
report,
2014
report
on
the
state
of
the
Dome,
and
so
Dan
and
Amal
have
teamed
with
her
to
update
that
report
and
move
forward
on
key
details
for
repairing
the
dome
which
we're
going
to
share
with
you
tonight
as
information.
It's
again
a
maintenance
project
to
repair
and
kind.
J
As
many
of
you
know,
this
is
a
precious
building
to
training
great
Architects,
and
it
is
the
the
Dome
is
the
centerpiece
between
East
and
West
Sibley,
and
it
was
the
final
of
the
three
structures
and
it
was
completed.
J
In
1902,
designed
by
Arthur
Gibbs,
and
we,
as
you
know,
are
framing
the
locally
designated
art,
Squad
historic
district
on
the
Northern
edge
with
with
Sibley
Hall,
and
therefore
it's
a
contributing
structure
to
the
Arts
quad
District
and
we're
here
tonight
to
request
a
certificate
for
appropriateness
for
two
design
elements
on
this
project.
The
first
are
south
facing
windows
that
will
replicate
the
windows
you
saw
proposed
back
in
2013
at
the
time.
J
Architects
11
bets
teamed
with
Walter
Melvin
Associates,
and
we
are
copying
we
are
pressing
repeat
on
all
of
those
details,
making
sure
that
we
have
a
durable,
long-lasting
product
that
captures
the
unique
nature
of
those
existing
windows,
but
just
delivers
a
higher
thermal
performance
and
then
the
second
part
of
the
design
is
on
the
back
side
of
of
Sibley,
the
the
north
facing
side.
J
This
project
is
driven
by
the
need
for
new
space
inside
the
architecture
school
for
their
program
and
bringing
daylight
into
those
new
spaces
is,
is
a
key
part
of
the
success
of
this
project
and
so
we'll
we'll
share
with
you
our
proposed
design
for
North
facing
glazed
opening.
J
So
in
brief,
this
is
a
critical
maintenance
project
that
has
a
complete
repair
work
to
the
Lantern
and
the
Dome
Dan
and
Amal
are
going
to
show
you
a
little
bit
more
on
that
front,
and
then
you
can
see
on
the
screen
replacement
of
nine
windows
on
the
south
facing
facade
and
then
the
new
window
on
the
north
side
of
the
building,
and
so
with
that
without
further
Ado
I'm.
Turning
it
over
to
you
now,
Dan
and
I'm
up.
N
Thanks
Jay
and
thanks
everyone
for
having
us
tonight
so
as
Jay
mentioned,
big
Focus
will
be
the
repair
of
the
dome,
which
is
quite
critically
important
because
it
it
is
currently
leaking
and
it's
finishes,
have
kind
of
many
of
them
have
reached
the
end
of
their
of
their
life
and
really
need
repair
work
and
we're
following
very
closely
to
The
Argus
report
from
2014,
which
identified
a
lot
of
corrosion
and
deformities,
particularly
at
the
cornice
area.
N
The
cornice
section
is
outlined
in
in
red
here,
which
is
is
in
particularly
bad
shape
and
will
need
to
be
replaced
and
also
the
paint
we
will
be
repainting
the
dome,
but
that's
also
an
area
of
concern
at
the
moment,
because
the
different
historical
layers
of
paint
are
not
working
well
together,
and
so
that's
that's
also
one
of
the
problems.
N
We
will
be
removing
that
visible
Louver,
which
faces
the
art
Squad
and
when
we
replace
the
window,
the
small
windows
at
the
top
of
the
Dome
they'll
be
operable,
but
only
only
to
the
back,
so
that
will
no
longer
be
visible
and
be
replaced
with
the
historic
Windows
and
that
overall
will
go
to
kind
of
going
back
to
the
thermal
system
that
the
Dome
was
designed
with
it's
a
very
interesting
structure
in
that
it
was
designed
both
inside
and
outside,
to
move
with
temperature.
N
So
it's
not
about
keeping
the
cold
and
the
heat
out
of
the
inside
of
the
Dome
between
the
Dome
and
the
finishes
of
the
building,
but
really
allowing
that
to
move
on
the
South
Side.
The
formal
side
that
faces
the
art
Squad,
as
Jay
mentioned,
we'll
be
replacing
the
windows,
and
we
will
be
following
the
details
and
the
the
type
of
Windows
that
were
used
on
on
East
Sibley,
which
is
here
on
this
side
and
we'll
be
simply
doing
the
same
thing.
N
We
have
those
details
as
part
of
this
presentation,
but
only
if
you
want
to
go
through
them,
we
have
all
the
detailed
specifications.
Okay,.
J
Actually,
before
we
move
on,
do
you
want
to
just
touch
on
the
research
to
uncover
the
historic
color
and
the
intent
to
to
explore.
N
N
So
we
are
quite
excited
about
this
word:
Argus
is
going
to
try
to
get
up
there
as
soon
as
the
weather
cooperates
and
we'll
be
taking
samples
in
as
many
places
as
they
can
to
try
to
determine
the
the
original
color
of
the
Dome,
and
we
will
be
going
back
to
that
original
color.
Once
we
discover
it.
I
think
everyone
agrees
that
they
don't
know
what
color
it
is,
but
probably
not
the
color
that
it
is
now.
N
Okay,
moving
to
the
north,
facade
I
think
it's!
You
know
it's
a
very
different
world
on
on
the
on
the
back
of
the
building
for
most
of
the
building's
life,
this
facade
was
covered
up
or
had
another
building,
very,
very
close
to
it
as
a
part
of
a
series
of
the
buildings
on
on
the
North,
including
the
the
coal,
the
coal
burner
or
back
there,
and
so,
as
a
result,
it's
a
it's
a
completely
different
material.
It's
a
very
rough
dark,
colored,
brick.
N
You
also
see
that
East,
Sibley
and
West
Sibley
both
are
different
colors.
So
you
have
three
different
types
of
brick
with
the
north
section
of
of
the
Dome
being
the
most
let's
say,
utilitarian
and
and
and
functional
it's
very
limited
in
the
number
of
Windows
and
the
windows
that
are
there
are
at
odd
locations
because
they
essentially
follow
the
stairs
and
the
auditorium
that
was
there
before
was
replaced
by
the
library
in
the
1970s.
N
So
as
a
result,
on
the
second
floor,
those
two
windows
that
you
see
there
are
about
five
foot,
six
off
the
floor
to
the
bottom
of
the
window,
and
so,
while
there
are
two
windows,
small
Windows
there,
they
don't
let
in
a
lot
of
light,
and
you
cannot
see
out
of
them
because
they're
they're
above
eye
level
so
and
the
other
thing
to
mention
I
think
on
the
North
facade-
is
that
you
know.
N
Currently
it
faces
the
the
main
parking
lot
for
Sibley
and
and
also
it's
really,
that
side
of
the
building
is
dominated
by
milstein
Hall.
The
Oma
project
from
about
10
years
ago,.
O
And
so
really
I
mean
thinking
through
the
life
of
Sibley
Hall
and
this
back
side.
The
fact
that
in
and
we
and
we're
kind
of
serving
very
functionally
the
interior.
We
wanted
to
bring
as
much
light
in
and
kind
of
wanted
to
differentiate.
You
know
old
and
new,
but
really
register
that
this
back
is
quite
eclectic
in
terms
of
different
colors,
different
materials,
different
eras,
including
milstein,
Hall
and
the
kind
of
contemporary
intervention,
and
so
in
in
some
ways.
O
This
large
opening
that
we're
proposing
sort
of
weaves
together
this
old
and
new,
by
registering.
O
First
of
all,
the
kind
of
interventions,
the
more
contemporary
interventions
on
campus,
such
as
the
Johnson
Museum
of
Art
or
around
Hall,
with
their
large
kind
of
very
simple
glazed
openings
and
registering
horizontally
the
lines
of
milstein
Hall,
picking
up
on
the
kind
of
top
and
bottom
same
proportion
for
for
the
glazing,
while
at
the
same
time
registering
vertically
the
vertical
sort
of
divisions
of
the
windows
on
the
first
floor
and
kind
of
tracing
those
up
and,
at
the
same
time
registering
as
well
the
kind
of
Windows
that
we're
replacing
by
maintaining
two
of
the
lentils
and
kind
of
filling
in
The
Brick
by
reusing
the
brick
that
will
be
removed.
O
It
is
meant
to
be
a
kind
of
very
simple
sort
of
a
sort
of
intervention,
not
overstated,
not
a
very
big
statement.
At
the
same
time,
we
do
believe
we
move
to
the
next
slide
that
you
know
it's
really
in
the
in
the
kind
of
detail.
We
don't
imagine
this
and
intend
this
to
be
just
a
kind
of
generic
storefront
we'd
like
to
keep
them
the
mullions
quite
thin
and
flush
with
the
brick
facade
we'd
like
to
Echo
the
existing
color
of
the
existing
windows.
O
So
we
imagine
that
the
frame
wouldn't
be
the
frames,
wouldn't
be
gray,
but
rather
a
kind
of
off-white,
and
that
will
be
a
way
to
kind
of
sort
of
register.
The
the
new
but
again
keeping
everything
quite
subtle
and
sensitive
and
discreet,
and
leaving
really
the
function
of
bringing
and
maximizing
light
and
to
the
interior
as
the
main
sort
of
intention
of
the
design.
O
And
here
you
see
in
the
rendering
we
you
know,
because
we
didn't
render
the
frames
white,
we
wanted
to
register
that
it
would
kind
of
blend
in,
but
the
registration
of
the
both
the
kind
of
horizontality
of
milstein
and
the
verticality
of
the
existing
window
and
in
general
of
Sibley
Hall
will
kind
of
come
together
in
this
in
this
opening,
which
we
hope
actually
will
be
exciting
in
terms
of
seeing
in
to
the
new
life
of
the
building
with
the
kind
of
studio
and
students.
O
You
know
it's
a
pretty.
You
know
it's
a
parking
lot,
it's
very
much
a
back
facade,
but
it
would
be
nice
if
there
is
a
sense
of
sort
of
understanding
what's
happening
behind
there
as
well.
Foreign.
J
Thank
you
Dan
as
well
that
the
architecture
school
would
really
like
to
put
on
that
type
of
display
that
activity
forward
and
it's
a
North
facing
window.
So
it's
really
one
of
a
better
facades
in
terms
of
facing
and
not
increasing
too
much
the
heat
gain
from
sun
exposure.
J
K
Right,
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
this
information
at
your
disposal,
but
we've
seen
a
number
of
buildings
on
the
final
quad
or
at
least
in
my
decade
here
I,
don't
recall
ever
approving
replacement
windows
this
week.
M
A
E
It
was
before
eyes
became
preservation,
planner
I,
think
in
2014
the
university
sought
approval
for
the
replacement
of
the
Second
Story
windows
on
East
Sibley
and
the
commission
approved
them
yeah.
J
E
E
At
the
time
the
university
submitted
a
detailed
window
schedule
showing
the
conditions
of
the
windows.
There
was
a
site
visit
that
the
commission
members
were
able
to
examine
the
condition
of
the
windows
and
they
were
to
determined
that
the
the
level
of
deterioration
deflection,
broken
sash,
broken
broken
mechanics
warranted.
The
The
Replacements.
A
I
Like
to
add
here
that
and
and
emphasize
the
fact,
we
did
make
a
site
visit,
the
windows
were
pretty
shot,
they
weren't,
but
there's
been
no
such
Claim
about
these
windows.
We
don't
know
anything
about
the
condition
of
these
windows
and
it
would
be
highly
unusual
for
us
to
approve
window
replacement
in
a
large-scale
project
that
that
we,
we
didn't
think
were
in
favor.
So
I
guess
I'd
want
to
know
a
lot
more
about
the
condition
of
living
in
Windows
before
we
went
much
further.
J
A
K
Because
I
don't
think
yeah
anyway,
because
I
was
because
I
was
just
thinking
about
moral
Hall
and
the
care
and
attention
detail
of
repair
that
went
into
that
project
and
I'm
hard
to
consider
differently,
because
that
was
a
wonderful
project
to
review
and
it's
preservation.
Focus,
but
I,
don't
remember
if
they
had
a
window
of
the
project
associated
with
it.
They
did
a
lot
of
work
to
the
cornice
line
and.
C
E
C
I
And
in
the
in
the
Sibley
Hall
I'm
East
Wing
project
that
we
approved
and
as
I
say.
Firstly,
the
the
the
casement's
really
worth
it
that
they
really
were
shot.
But
we
did
look
at
the
replacement
one
and
it
was.
It
was
a
beautiful
job,
but
really
it
was
it
just
replicated
them
piece
by
piece
when
it
really
was
a
model
job
of
replication,
so
I
mean
I
found
that
that
fact
encouraging.
K
N
Yeah
we'll
be
using
all
the
same
details,
dimensions
and
specifications.
J
And
likely
the
same
fabricators,
depending
on
how
the
bids
come
in,
but
there'd
probably
be
no
reason
that
we
wouldn't
Source
these
windows
from
the
same
window
manufacturer
their
custom,
millwork
I,
believe
it's
mahogany.
K
K
E
Right,
so
the
painting
of
the
exterior
of
the
Dome
does
not
require
any
kind
of
approval
because
it
is
painting,
but
the
the
physical
repair
of
the
Dome
metal
would
be
a
staff
level
review.
E
The
removal
of
some
of
the
non-historic
louvered
louvers
in
the
dome
or
in
the
in
the
Lantern,
and
then
there
are
some
mechanical
vents
that
are
proposed
that
aren't
going
to
be
visible
to
the
public.
Those
could
be
approved
at
the
staff
level.
E
The
replacement
of
the
windows
and
the
changes
to
the
penetration
on
the
rear
of
the
building
are
definitely
not
staff
level
items
and
I
believe
that
covers
everything.
That's
in
that
proposal.
K
H
Why
were
the
Windows
to
be
replaced
chosen
as
opposed
to
the
other
100
windows
on
these
buildings?
Are
they
in
particularly
worse
shape
than
the
other
ones
or
is
like
there's
the
first
phase
of
window
replacement?
It.
J
Is
the
first
phase
this
particular
project
is
driven,
as
I
mentioned,
from
an
interior
renovation
scope
to
transform
the
second
and
third
floor.
So
while
we're
in
there
doing
that
work,
we
would
like
to
address
the
envelope
and
and
bring
it
up
to
meet
energy
code,
and
so
that's.
What's
driving
the
replacement
of
those
windows,
we
are
looking
into
planning
upgrades
to
West,
Sibley
Hall,
and
so
those
the
windows
will
be
most
likely
replaced
at
a
future
date.
E
So
no
members
of
the
public
registered
to
speak
this
evening.
There
are
no
members
of
the
public
in
the
waiting
room
here
to
speak
on
the
project.
We
did
receive
a
few
written
comments
on
the
proposal
and
I'm
happy
to
read
them
into
the
record.
If
the
commission
feels
it's
appropriate,
but
they
were
distributed
to
you
earlier
today,.
I
E
All
right,
so,
the
first
comment
is
from
Christine
O'malley
at
historic
Ithaca.
With
regard
to
the
proposed
work
on
Sibley
to
add
new
second
floor
windows
on
the
North
facade,
historic
Ithaca
is
concerned
about
the
lack
of
detailing
in
the
flat
arrangement
of
the
band
of
modern
Windows.
Although
this
is
the
parking
lot
side
of
the
building
and
more
utilitarian
and
character,
it
is
still
a
highly
visible
facade
that
merits
more
careful
articulation
for
the
new
window.
E
Openings
the
drawing
show
some
large
plate
glass,
modern
windows
that
will
be
completely
different
from
the
other
existing
windows
on
Sibley.
We
ask
the
designers
to
adjust
their
plans
that
there
is
more
finesse
to
the
placement
of
these
windows
within
the
north
side,
so
I
sincerely
Christine
O'malley
preservation,
services
coordinator
at
historic
Ithaca,
and
the
second
comment
is
from
Nancy
birdshock,
who
I
should
say
for
the
record
is
currently
an
alternate
member
of
the
ilpc
not
serving
this
evening
and
her
comments.
E
Read
I
have
reviewed
Cornell's
proposal
dated
11
29
22
for
alterations
to
Sibley
Hall
and
would
like
to
make
the
following
observations.
First,
the
restoration
of
the
historic
Dome
and
the
window
replacements
for
the
Dome,
as
well
as
those
to
the
central
section
of
the
South
facade,
are
very
much
in
keeping
with
the
historic
fabric
that
they're
building
and
ours
and
are
to
be
lauded.
However,
I
was
disappointed
to
see
the
proposed
design
freeze
of
Windows
for
the
second
level
of
the
north
wall
of
the
central
section.
E
This
horizontal
bands,
band
of
Windows,
is
totally
unadorned.
Bland
engineering
I
do
understand
that
the
Architects
wish
to
provide
additional
light
for
interior
spaces
that
are
being
remodeled.
However,
it
would
seem
that
a
real
opportunity
for
design
may
be
missed.
With
this
current
proposal.
A
change
in
fenestration
here
could
and
should
honor
the
existing
historic
Fabric
in
at
least
a
few
ways.
E
Two
suggestions-
the
use
of
stone
lentils,
for
example,
could
tie
the
new
windows
to
the
old,
perhaps
more
important,
a
series
of
separate
vertically
oriented
Windows,
even
if
space
quite
close
together,
would
partner
more
harmoniously
with
the
existing
openings
on
both
the
central
section
and
the
long
sections
blanking
the
central
unit
that
would
be
proposed.
Horizontal
window
treatment
compatibility
with
the
existing
historic
fabric
is
important.
Please
understand
that
I
believe
the
central
premise
is
sound.
This
is
more
utilitarian
facade
on
the
south
wall
and
thus
does
not
require
a
fancy
treatment.
E
A
H
The
drawings
called
butt
joint
glazing
for
the
large
window
on
the
north.
Is
that
like?
No?
No,
no
mutton
in
between
just
a
cocked
joint
or
something.
N
H
I
thought
milstein
had
like
aluminum
mullions
or
something
behind.
N
Yes,
and
we
will
as
well,
but
the
the
glass
itself
is,
is
just
a
a
single
plane.
The.
H
N
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we
divided
it
into
five
sections
with
the
smaller
sections
in
between
that
that
mimic
the
windows
below,
we
will
have
columns
to
support
the
lintel
at
those
four
vertical
locations,
so
yeah.
O
It's
a
it's
a
research
and
design
studio
and
a
new
center
for
City.
So
it's
faculty
and
students
in
a
kind
of
Studio
space.
J
It's
one
large
convening
space
that
wouldn't
really
benefit
from
punched
openings.
The
way
that
office
spaces
benefit
from
that
kind
of
singular
window
approach,
and-
and
so
that's
that's-
why
we're
pursuing
this?
This
way
of
opening
up
and
bringing
as
much
daylight
into
that
convening
space
for
our
Center
of
Center
for
cities,
program,
foreign.
C
C
I
Well,
it's
such
a
it's
such
a
important
facade
is
such
a
flat
and
utilitarian
blank
base.
I
mean
I
think
it
should
be
more
attractive
with
a
larger
window
there,
but
that's
not
really
what
we
do.
I
mean
we
don't
deal
with
Aesthetics
so
much
in
that
way,
I
mean
so
I
mean
I,
I
like
it,
but
I,
don't
know
how
it
how
it
fits.
I
guess
I'd
be
interested
to
hear
from
other
folks.
K
I
mean
and
and
I'm
definitely
not
on
the
board
for
notifications
anyway,
and
but
I
I,
just
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity.
I
see
this
as
a
space
that
could
be
improved.
I,
don't
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
interesting
work
happening
on
it
currently,
but
this
design
does
not
I,
don't
think
it's
suitable
I
think
it's
visible
to
put
on
here.
I,
don't
think
it's
suitable
for
upright
building
with
no
detailing
with
nothing.
K
Pulling
it
together
to
articulate
it
I'm
not
actually
opposed
to
that
much
window
space,
but
it's
the
the
lack
of
careful
detailing
around
it.
That
to
me
suggests
that
it's
I
mean
it's
a
lack
of
articulation,
I,
think
I,
think
lentils
I
think
improved
articulation
surrounding
it
would
help
integrate.
It's
not
integrated
into
the
facade,
in
my
opinion
of
this
culture,
so
I
can't
get
on
board
and
that
information,
but
it's
not
because
I'm
opposed
to
a
window,
it's
more
of
just
how
it
interacts
and
interfaces
with
the
rest
of
Sibley.
K
A
K
So
and
I
think
height
wise,
it's
I
mean
it's
a
little
bit
hard
on
this.
To
judge
feedback
for
me,
I'm,
not
an
architect,
but
the
height,
wise
I,
think
it's
it's
being
more
responsive
as
well,
but
it's
it's
the
detailing
surrounding
it.
There
is
none
and
that's
not
this
building.
A
K
C
C
Foreign,
can
we
go
down
this
list
and
is
it
possible
to
approve
some
of
these
items
just
so,
we
have
a
more
clear
focused
on
what
appears
to
be
concerns
about
Windows
in
general
in
this
project,
and
maybe
we
do
a
site
visit
to
deal
with
that
issue
where
at
least
get
a
clear
idea
of
what's
happening,
but
we
have
in
this
this
evening's
agenda.
For
example,
income
replacement
of
the
Dome
orders,
any
kind
repairs
to
the
metal,
Dome,
cladding
and
recoating
all
metal
improved
elements.
E
E
The
determination
in
those
cases
was
that
the
poorness
was
deteriorated
beyond
the
point
of
repair
and
the
the
commission
did
approve
metal
in-kind,
metal
replacement
of
metal
furnaces
as
long
as
the
metatronics
fabricated,
the
original
molding
profile.
So
that
is
the
intent
for
that
particular
project
and
given
past
precedent,
you
know
it
seems
that
that
is
likely
not
going
to
be
a
stick.
Input
to
the
commission
this
evening
would
not.
C
E
There
was
so
Jay
had
suggested
a
providing
a
window
survey.
I
think
that's
a
great
step,
it's
what
it's,
how
the
previous
Replacements
were
handled
and
with
your
request
for
a
site
visit
I,
can
work
with
Jay
and
set
one
up
for
the
new
year.
Okay,.
H
Where's,
the
location
next
to
the
Dome
or.
M
J
C
So
that
point
we
should
be
able
to
move
forward
just
a
simple
500
application
later
on,
and
then
we
have
this
removal,
two
windows
on
the
North
elevation
and
the
insertion
of
a
large
Blue
developer.
How
do
we
want
to
deal
with
that?
This
is
the
second
we
want
to
have
further
may
be
discussed
more
on
our
state
visit
to
somebody.
E
I
think
for
the
applicant's
benefit,
we've
heard
Caitlyn's
perspective
on
the
the
truly
modern
windows
and
somewhat
of
David's,
but
it
would
be
great
for
the
applicant
to
hear
what
others
think
of
it.
So
they
can
make
a
decision
whether
they
need
to
you
know,
modify
the
design
before
they
move
forward.
J
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
from
Caitlin
and
from
the
two
letters
is
that
the
representations
tonight
that
you've
had
before
you
to
review
give
an
impression
of
a
kind
of
generic
and
run-of-the-mill
mediocre
insertion
into
a
historic
Fabric.
And
so
we
appreciate
those
comments
and
we
want
to
attend
to
the
articulation
of
and
and
the
celebration
of
a
new
event
on
this
facade.
J
That
would
be
similar
to
the
palimpses
that
you
experience
in
Europe
when
you
go
to
to
many
of
the
cities,
and
you
see
the
sort
of
overlaying
of
time
and
and
a
building
as
it
evolves
and
not
just
a
continual
repeating
of
of
the
same
kind
of
template
over
and
over
again.
So
we
we
really
appreciate
this.
J
We
take
this
on
and
you
heard
Amal
point
out
that
their
intent
is
to
create
a
depth
based
on
how
the
steel
lintel
will
hold
the
brickwork
above
and
and
those
columns
that
connect
to
that
lentil
and
what
their
relationship
is
to
the
glazing
in
front
of
them
and
what
those
vertical,
what
planes
articulate
and,
furthermore,
how
the
frame
engages
the
glass
at
the
edges
where,
where
that
historic,
brick
work
exists,
how
how
does
that
steel
frame?
J
Engage
that
brick?
Where
is
it
positioned
and
and
development
of
that
with
you
know,
larger
details
with
crispr
renderings
is
something
that
we're
we're
moving
towards
with
design
development,
and
we
welcome
more
feedback
from
your
from
your
commission.
O
Absolutely
Jay
and
if
I
can
just
share.
In
addition,
this
is
really
about
care,
so
I,
you
know.
If
it's
not
yet
visible
or
expressed,
then
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it
is
it's.
You
know
the
back.
Facade
is
really
interest
interesting
in
that
it's
like
the.
It
is
a
reaction
to
the
interior.
I
mean
the
the
exist.
The
windows
are,
you
know
where
the
stair
was.
There
was
a
pop-up
window,
the
height
of
the
stage
dictated
the
height
of
the
current
windows.
O
It's
really
a
reaction
to
the
interior
needs
and
functions,
and
so
it
is
important
to
for
you
know
in
the
spirit
of
this
back
facade
to
be
registering
the
new
life,
and
so,
if
it's
not
celebratory
yet
we
certainly
want
to
do
that.
Yeah.
N
I
think,
and
just
again
to
emphasize
the
bulk
of
our
work
is
adaptive.
Reuse.
We
love
working
with
older
buildings.
We
are
not
you
know
just
coming
in.
We
we.
We
actually
did
a
ton
of
research
about
this
building
and
you
know
the
fact
that
we're
facade
was
covered
for
most
of
its
life.
You
know
we
really
are
interested
to
to
do
the
right
thing.
E
E
A
J
Yes,
I
will
work
with
Brian
and
we
will
Target
a
site
visit
the
week
of
January,
16th
and
I
will
also
work
with
Brian
on
what
material
is
required
for
a
follow-up
discussion,
but
we'll
look
forward
to
meeting
with
the
commission
and
having
a
hearty
discussion
on
site.
Thank
you.
C
Art
fraud,
North
District,
was
hoping
to
replace
extending
machine
metal
roof
on
the
ground
power
with
changes
in
design.
So
it's
not
actually.
C
J
Ryan,
do
you
see
Larry
Wilson,
requesting
entry.
E
J
J
J
I'm,
just
waiting
on
Larry
to
join
the
zoom
okay.
B
I
E
J
Brian
you
want
to
unmute
him
and
see
I
got
it
see
how
he's
behaving.
J
D
J
Okay,
wonderful!
Well
thanks
everyone.
The
second
presentation
from
Cornell
this
evening
is
on
the
eurus
library
and
McGraw
Tower
envelope,
renewal.
J
For
this
project.
We
have
reached
out
to
Mesa
Cohen
Wilson
Baker,
Architects,
Larry
Wilson
who's
the
partner
in
charge
on
this
project.
They
are
a
consulting
firm,
that's
known
for
historic
preservation
and
planning
of
culturally
significant
buildings.
J
J
William
Henry,
Miller
designed
eurus
library
and
McGraw
Tower
in
the
richardsonian
Romanesque
style
completed
the
construction
in
1891
and
it
became
the
first
library
on
on
our
Ithaca
campus.
The
tower
extends
to
173
feet
in
height,
and
it's
visible
from
most
points
on
central
campus.
Downtown
Ithaca
and
surrounding
communities
is
one
of
the
most
iconic
structures
on
the
Cornell
University
campus.
J
It
is
also
a
contributing
structure
to
the
locally
designated
art
Squad
historic
district
counterposed
by
Sibley
Hall
on
the
North
Urus
and
McGraw
Tower
are
at
the
southwest
corner
of
the
yard
Squad
and
we're
here
this
evening
to
request
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
two
proposed
changes
to
the
McGraw
Tower
roof
design.
J
The
first
is
really
the
largest
one.
I
have
as
the
second
bullet
point,
but
we're
changing
the
material
from
a
lead-coated,
copper
to
a
sheet-led,
roof
material
and
Larry
will
go
into
the
the
details
behind
that
decision
and
then
the
second
proposed
change
is
a
minor
simplification
of
the
vertical
Batten
layout
of
this
Chevron
roof
design,
which
Larry
and
his
team
have
done
quite
a
bit
of
research
which
we're
not
going
to
get
into
in
this
presentation.
J
But
we
did
attach
with
the
printed
materials
of
many
chapels
and
churches
and
Steeples
in
in
Europe
that
use
this
type
of
Chevron
pattern
and
sheet
LED
on
their
towers.
J
The
purpose
of
the
project
is
to
address
water
infiltration,
which
is
leading
to
masonry
deterioration
at
the
top
of
the
the
tower.
The
arch
The
Arches
at
the
the
bells
have
started
to
show
serious
structural
issues
and
the
interior
walls
where
it's
been
parge
coating
coated
is
deteriorating,
and
so
this
project
requires
taking
a
very
close
look
to
replace
materials
that
have
suffered
from
that
deterioration
resulting
from
water
infiltration.
J
We,
we
are
also
doing
work
on
the
Urus
Library
roofs
Larry's,
going
to
share
some
photos
of
those
all
of
that
work,
whether
it's
on
non-existing
small
roofs
or
on
stairs
will
replace
in
kind
or
in
the
event
of
an
EPA
PDM
roof
we're
replacing
back
with
copper
and
again,
we'll
we'll
show
some
we'll
show
some
images
for
everyone.
That
again
is
a
repair
and
maintenance
project.
We're
here
tonight
to
talk
about
these
two
changes
to
the
to
the
Tower,
and
so
with
that,
take
it
away.
Larry,
okay,.
P
Thank
you,
Jay
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
make
this
presentation
and
working
on
this
building
is,
is
and
is
humbling
and
we're
grateful
for
the
opportunity
we
began
the
project.
Four
years
ago.
We
did
a
pretty
comprehensive
historic
structure
report
for
the
overall
building
identified,
the
scope
of
work
in
that
report
and
covet
got
in
the
way
for
a
couple
years,
but
the
university
is
is
proceeding
with
the
critical
points
that
we
made
in
the
HSR.
P
They
needed
attention
the
biggest
and
most
prominent
aspect
of
of
the
work.
We're
undertaking
is
the
tower
roof,
obviously,
and
again,
truly
humbly,
given
its
iconic
centrality
to
the
to
the
campus
at
Cornell
University
and
it's
it's
history,
it's
it's
so
recognizable.
It's
the
center
of
the
the
campus
and
extremely
important
and
and
complicated
as
you'll
see.
There
are
other
aspects
of
the
tower
that
we
are
addressing
as
well
and
Jay,
reviewed
them
briefly
and
I.
P
We
could
get
into
detail,
but,
generally
speaking,
water
infiltration
has
caused
a
series
of
different
compromises
to
the
masonry
structure
and
some
previous
ill-considered
repairs
like
putting
a
hard
cement
mortars
over
over
stone
work
which
has
caused
you
know,
moisture
retention,
freeze,
thaw
cycles
and
deterior
general
deterioration,
but
I,
don't
think
we're
asking
for
we're
not
asking
for
any
considerations
from
you
on
those
repair
items
associated
with
the
masonry,
but
they're
fairly
extensive
at
the
top
of
the
tower
we're
doing
limited,
but
we're
doing
repair
to
the
clock
as
well.
P
We're
not
changing
it
in
any
way.
Just
repair,
paint
and
I
think
that
are
are
just
general
maintenance
and
repair.
You
know
a
portion.
The
reason
we're
addressing
the
roof
is
that
it
has
there's
a
long
history
of
leaks
and
problems
associated
with
water
entering
the
the
upper
regions
of
the
tower,
including
the
it's.
It's
got
a
steel
frame
underneath
the
the
pyramidal
roof
form
and
the
steel
is
anchored
to
the
masonry
structure
itself
with
long
steel
rods
that
go
down
into
the
masonry.
P
There's
there's
considerable
amount
of
deterioration
on
the
steel
frame
itself
and
we're
going
to
be
addressing
the
anchorages,
as
well
as
the
steel
deterioration
as
well
with
this
project
we'll
be
replacing
the
Belfry
roof,
which
you
can't
see,
it's
underneath
the
bells
themselves
and
it's
got
an
EPDM
roof
we're
going
to
replace
with
EPDM.
But
you
know
you
don't
see
it.
It's
not
a
consideration.
I!
Think
for
this
discussion
and
the
railings.
P
We
are
we're
doing
some.
There's
problems
they're
attached
to
the
Sandstone
Piers
here
and
we're
we're
disassociate
we're,
there's
problems
associated
with
those
anchorages
and
we're
going
to
be
removing
these
expansion
anchors
from
and
and
reattaching
it
back
behind
the
the
railings
to
the
roof
structure
itself,
but
again,
not
nothing
that
you
will
see
or
notice,
but
something
that
will
Rectify
a
consistent
problem
with
that
and
other
aspects
of
this
roof
that
are
of
consideration.
P
The
both
the
west
and
south
Gables
of
the
of
the
library
itself
will
be
repaired.
The
copings
are
Stone
on
brick,
Stone
face
brick
masonry
structure
and
there's
there's
no
through
wall
flashing
on
flashings
of
any
kind.
Under
these
copings
and
there's
a
lot
you
can
even
see
in
these
elevations
there's
a
considerable
amount
of
water
infiltration
and
deterioration.
Mortar
is
shot
Behind.
P
These
masonry
Gables
in
near
the
near
the
top
we're
going
to
be
removing
the
copings
and
putting
through
wall
flashing
rebuilding
brickwork,
putting
the
copings
back
with
lead
tees
over
them
to
protect
the
joints
all
in
kind
work,
nothing
that
would
be
I,
don't
believe
a
of
concern
to
the
ilpc
and.
P
And
both
the
bay
roofs,
you
can
see
the
upper
or
the
West
Gable
has
a
as
original
copper
roof.
The
South
Wing
was
replaced
with
an
EPDM
roof,
we're
going
to
replace
them
both
with
copper
in
kind
similar
to
the
original
West
gable,
roof
they'll
be
copper
and
they
will
match
the
original
roof
and
detailing
again
I.
Don't
think
that
should
be
a
consideration.
P
The
main
porch
roof
on
the
upper
right
is
a
replacement
roof,
but
they're
replaced
with
lead
coat
of
copper.
Some
years
ago,
our
work
there
is
very
limited:
it's
really
The
Gutter
and
leader,
or
the
leader
heads
really
undersized.
There's
a
chronic
problems.
There.
P
You
can
see
the
the
deterior,
the
actually
deformation
of
the
the
snow
fence
there
related
to
ice
buildup,
so
we'll
be
replacing
snow
melting
and
enlarging
the
the
leader
head
and
just
taking
care
of
that's
a
maintenance
kind
of
thing
and,
interestingly,
the
East
Main
stair
of
the
library
Medina
Sandstone
Court
in
near
Rochester,
New
York.
You
probably
all
know
the
Medina
Sandstone
story
original
to
the
to
the
library
but
serious
deterioration,
steel,
supporting
and
unsteel
beams.
P
P
You
can
see
a
broken
section
on
that
stair
that
lighter
lighter
area
there
and
we're
going
to
clean
it
and
we're
going
to
put
it
all
back,
we're
going
to
keep
and
and
replace
and
and
reinstall
the
Medina
Sandstone
stair
as
it
is
today,
we
do
have
to
add
a
railing
to
the
right
potentially
for
for
code
purposes,
that's
still
being
investigated,
but
we're
going
to
restore
in
using
the
original
materials.
P
You
won't
know,
it'll,
look
good
because
it'll
be
repaired
and
with
some
Dutchman
repairs,
but
so
moving
on
that
the
tower
itself
is
is
where
we
are
asking
for
some
considerations.
So
this
the
tower
is
was
installed
approximately
1935.
P
modeled
after
European
examples
of
of
medieval
roofs
that
were
typically
actually
made
of
sheet
lead
this
this
roof
the
Chevron
pattern
was
was
was
a
fairly
common
roof.
We
have
a
lot
of
examples
of
them
in
the
in
this
appendix
of
this
report,
and
but
they
installed
this
with
a
lead-coated
copper.
P
Just
back
for
a
second
Jay
just
quickly,
I
want
to
want
you
to
pay
attention
to
the
to
the
detail
there
of
the
copper
and
how
it's
interacting
with
the
with
the
batons,
the
Baton
actually
splays
out
in
their
detail,
as
you'll
see
in
our
details
should
splay
in
that
there's
a
problem
with
the
detail
to
begin
with
in
this
roof,
so
we'll
get
into
that
in
a
minute.
P
But
if
you
go
on,
we
just
collected
photographs
from
the
different
periods
and,
interestingly,
the
earliest
period
on
the
left,
1960s
more
consistent
in
color.
Interestingly,
you
really
read
the
Chevron
form
very
clearly
in
most
of
these
progressively
less
and
particularly
worse
in
the
more
recent
photographs
that
we
took
with
drone
with
our
drones
in
2019.
When
we
did
the
historic
storks
report,
it
looks
more
like
tiling
in
2019
than
it
does
a
Chevron.
P
You
can
barely
read
the
Chevron
form
now,
admittedly,
depending
on
how
the
light
breaks
across
the
Rope
will
accentuate
or
de-accentuate
the
form
of
the
Chevrons,
but
very
clearly
this
roof
reads
current
more
more
recently
in
the
last
20
or
30
years
as
a
tiled
kind
of
roof.
Because
of
the
way
the
pans
of
the
lead
coat
of
copper
have
oxidized.
The
lead
has
worn
away
the
copper
underneath
those
pans
has
oxidized
and,
and
now
there's
this
greenish
gray.
Greenish
copper
lead
patina
to
it,
but
maybe
more
importantly,
what
you're?
P
Reading
in
the
in
the
pattern
of
the
tiling
I'll
call?
It
is
repair,
work
done,
20
or
so
years
ago,
where
the
an
attempt
to
to
stem
the
leaks
all
of
the
joints
in
what
were
not
originally
soldered.
They
were
just
folded
joints.
Those
joints
were
soldered
and
you're.
Reading.
All
those
white
lines
is
later
more
recent
soldering,
so
there's
been
a
chronic
history
of
leaks
and
soldering.
You
can
see
you
can
see
that
very
clearly
in
these
close-up
images,
and
particularly
you
see
the
valley.
P
The
problem
with
the
thing
about
let
any
metal
roof
is
that
you
need
to
provide
for
expansion
contraction,
because
the
thermal
expansion
contraction
of
metal,
especially
where
you're
soldering
rigidly,
is
very
problematic
and
causes
the
failure
and
the
soldering,
and
particularly
where
it's
susceptible
in
these
valleys,
where
all
that
water
is
directed
into
these
solder
joints,
it's
just
a
terrible
detail,
Point,
honestly
and
a
chronic
problem,
and
so
that's
something
we
are.
We
are
proposing
to
address
here
in
what
we're
proposing
on
the
left.
P
You
can
see
a
straight
elevation
of
what
exists
today,
with
the
Chevron
form
and
essentially,
you've
got
the
hips
on
the
on
the
edges
and
within
those
hip
areas.
You
get
five
rows
of
vertical
battens
that
conjoin
the
up
and
down
zigzag
form
of
the
Chevron
and
I
I
pointed
out
to
you
where,
in
in
the
in
the
downward
facing
Chevron
legs
into
those
joints,
you
get
all
the
waters
directed
to
those
points
we
did.
P
We
did
some
sample
demonstrations
of
this
trying
to
detail
figure
out
how
to
detail
this,
to
allow
the
metal
to
move
and
expand
and
contract,
while
still
trying
to
make
it
waterproof
and
it's
even
historically
in
our
research.
It's
it's
a
chronic
problem,
and
so
we're
proposing
to
restore
this,
but
to
eliminate
the
vertical
battens
that
cause
the
problem,
which
will
allow
us
to
drain
this
roof
and
detail
it
so
that
we
don't
have
all
that
water
directed
to
those
very
susceptible
joints.
P
And
so
one
of
the
two
requests
we're
asking
of
you
is
consideration
for
I
will
say
a
fairly
subtle
change
to
the
design
and
patterning.
What
what
we
argue
is
the
main
element
that
you're
reading
of
of
this
roof
is
the
is
the
zigzag
form
the
Chevron
rather
than
the
vertical
battens?
This
will
allow
us
to
design
a
roof
that
will
have
a
very
long
life
without
these
chronic
problems
that
were
built
into
the
original
roof.
J
All
of
the
profiling
Remains
the
Same,
the
way
that
the
sheet-led
roof
engages
the
the
flashing
member
at
the
top
of
the
masonry,
the
edge
profile,
and
then
all
of
the
details
at
the
very
top
will
will
replicate
the
existing
roof
design.
I.
P
Go
further
to
say
that
it
gets
really
difficult
to
fabricate
this,
especially
in
the
rigid
metals
and
that's
why
we're
talking
about
sheet
lead
and
we'll
get
into
that,
but
up
near
the
top
of
this,
where
all
those
Chevrons
are
converging
extremely
complicated
and
dense
amount
of
folded
and
soldered
material
in
those
areas
and
greatly
relieved
by
eliminating
those
vertical
elements
in
those
areas.
So
the
complexity
of
this
and
the
problems
associated
with
that
are.
There
are
the
reason
we're
asking
for
this.
This
consideration.
P
So
we
are
proposing
sheetlab
rather
than
lead
coated,
copper,
it's
a
soft
metal
rather
than
a
rigid
metal.
It's
a
traditional
metal
used
to
make
these
Chevron
roofs.
You
see
them
all
over
Europe
and
and
for
a
good
reason,
the
the
way
and
the
complexity
of
the
folds
and
the
detailing
lend
themselves
to
to
the
the
the
soft
metal
type
of
detailing
that
we're
proposing
and
it
cheat.
Let
us
extremely
long
life
with
three
four
hundred
year.
P
Roofs
exist
in
Europe
today
that
are
sheet
LED
and
some
in
America
too,
some
very,
very
old
ones,
and
the
detail
to
the
lower
right.
You
can
see
we've
the
inverted
form
of
the
Batten
allows
the
metal
to
expand
and
contract
in
the
lower
portion,
where
it
it
has
a
90
degree,
turn
with
the
roof
itself.
That
allows
it's
a
small
amount
of
space,
but
it
allows
the
metal
to
move
to
expand
and
contract
without
without
forcing
it
up
into
the
The
Joint
in
the
Baton
itself.
P
We
did
some
renderings
to
try
to
represent
now,
bearing
in
mind
that
a
lot
of
the
viewing
of
of
this
pyramidal
roof
at
170
some
feet
in
the
air
is
from
a
great,
a
sharp
angle.
So
you
know
this
is
as
it
is
today
with
a
color
and
the
five
vertical
battens,
and
then
the
next
slide
shows
a
grayer
which
was
more
consistent
with
what
it
was
originally
because
it
was
originally
reading.
It
was
pure
lead
with
that.
J
P
Three
of
the
vertical
buttons
right
yeah:
this
is
a
little
bit
closer
from
a
slightly
closer
angle.
Again,
the
tiling
versus
the
more
pronounced
Chevron
forms
that
we
would
see
in
the
letter
it's
hard
to
represent
this
exactly
because
these
are
renderings,
but
it
would
be
grayer
and
without
the
tiling
effect,
you'd
get
more
of
the
zigzag
form
pronounced.
P
Arguably,
and
then
this
is
really
a
straight
on
showing
the
two.
The
two
versions,
one
is
literally
left
as
a
photograph.
The
right
is
is
a
rendering
that
we've
tried
to
produce
an
image
that
would
be
represented,
but.
J
P
Sure
and
I
know
that
that's
in
the
the
appendix
material
to
this
report,
if
you
want
to
get
into
it
in
graphically,
we
can
do
that,
but
the
way
so
the
way
LED
and
we've
done
lead
roofs,
but
large-scale
lead
roofs
in
this.
You
know
here
in
this
country,
and
so
we
we're
pretty
familiar
one
of
our
challenges
getting
getting
workmen
or
people
that
that
work
with
lead.
P
So
that's
one
challenge
we
do
have,
but
the
thing
about
lead
is
that
it
has
a
high
coefficient
of
expansion
and
contraction
thermally,
and
so
it's
really
important
that
you
detail
it
so
that
really
effectively
two
sides
of
a
pan
of
lead,
which
should
be
less
than
20
square
feet
in
as
its
largest
size,
two
sides
should
be
attached.
The
other
two
sides
should
be
clipped
and
allowed
to
move.
P
So
the
way
we
have
to
detail
this
is
on
any
of
the
vertical
battens
were,
were
forming
lead
over
the
Batten
and
where,
where
we're
nailing
the
one
side
and
the
top
of
the
Batten
and
the
other
two
sides
are
coming
down
and
lapping
up
and
over
the
pan,
underneath
it
and
being
clipped
in
with
a
with
a
lead
clip
so
that
it's
allowed
to
move,
and
you
know
in
both
directions
and
we're
actually
building
little
little.
P
The
other
thing
about
lead-
that's
really
interesting,
as
opposed
to
Copper,
is
where
you
do
conjoin
two
pieces
of
separate
pieces
of
lead
as
we'll
do
in
some
of
these
locations.
It's
actually
a
welding
which,
when
you
heat
it
at
low,
fairly
low
temperature
I
think
is
400
in
some
degrees.
It
actually
melts
and
re
and
then
re-solidifies
the
actual
lead
material.
So
it's
it's
a
contiguous
material.
P
After
you,
it's
called
it's
actually
welding,
as
opposed
to
soldering
inside,
and
the
distinction
is
that
soldering
is
the
use
of
use
of
another
material
to
conjoin
two
similar
materials.
If
it's
copper
use
a
lead
or
a
10
lead
tin
alloy
as
a
soldering
material
to
join
two
pieces
of
copper,
when
you
saw
when
you're
welding
lead,
it's
it's
led
to
lead,
there's
no
other
material.
P
J
You
did
thank
you,
Larry
all
right,
so
the
we've
allocated
our
maintenance
funding
and
plan
on
wrapping
up
construction
documents
in
February.
So
it's
a
bit
of
a
time
constraints
here.
J
J
And
with
that
I
appreciate
your
attentiveness
and
we
welcome
any
questions.
Thoughts
concerns
that
you
have
for
us.
I
J
It
remains
a
mystery,
so,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
learned
through
this
process
and
and
working
on
Sibley
Dome,
really
as
vertical
access,
are
a
bunch
of
wizards
with
how
they
use
ropes
to
access
remote
spots.
So
our
guess
is
that
some
College
of
Engineering
students
were
summer
interns
with
vertical
access
and
may
have
made
a
an
adventure
on
close
to
close
to
Halloween.
But
you.
P
J
K
I
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
on
the
showing
the
the
soldering
work
that
was
done.
You
could
have
done
in
the
90s
with
that
when
the
when
the
the
soldering
work
was
done
to
try
and
repair
the.
J
University
has
been
working
repair
on
repairs
for
for
as
long
as
this
roof
has
been
in
place
as
we
understand
from
our
our
shops
crew.
It's
ongoing
yeah,
so
not
just
in
the
90s
Caitlyn.
It's
been
ongoing.
70S
in
the
80s
is
a
long
record
and
that's
what
we're
really
trying
to
get
away
from
putting
people
into
this
type
of
unsafe
condition.
We've.
P
Got
a
fellow
on
the
on
the
committee
that
actually
was
one
of
the
roofers
that
that
worked
on
this
in
the
in
the
early
2000s,
2000s
I.
Think
who
was
very
keen
on
on
he's,
been
very
involved
and
very
keen
on
on
the
development
of
this
foreign.
K
K
A
K
That
that's
so
I
I
personally
think
that
I'm
not
familiar
we've.
Never
this
is
fun.
We
have
a
replacement
group
with
another
material
that
we
haven't
got
a
reply
might
have
had
to
replace
the
room.
K
I
think
that
there's
understandable
justification
for
the
Transitions
and
materiality
I
think
it
seems
like
a
close
enough
material
change
and
I,
don't
given
the
location
and
the
fact
that
most
of
the
the
the
1960s
clearly
reading
this
is
I
think
to
know
that
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
alterations,
but
I
think
it's
a
very
reasonable
replacement.
C
It's
understandable
that
this
simpler
design
will
allow
for
much
better
drainage
and
help
resolve
some
of
that
problem,
for
you,
I
have
no
problems
either.
There's
no
change
in
the
sign
on
material.
E
E
E
E
A
E
Building
was
built
between
it,
completed
in
1891.,
but
the
roof.
It
originally
had
a
clay
tile
room.
B
E
A
E
The
entire
I
think
the
entire
building
had
that
wow
and
it
started
to
leak
very
early
on,
so
they
replaced
it
with
a
slate
fan.
It
was
like
wow.
B
H
But
the
thing
get
through
today
at
this
meeting:
I
guess
then,
if
it
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
look
quite
as
nice,
but
it,
but
if
it
really
solves
the
water
problem
magazine,
I
can
live
with
it.
H
H
P
That
enables
us
to
properly
detail
instead
of
it
allows
us
to
have
a
lap
connection
between
the
one
pan
and
the
other
pan
coming
in
that
isn't
welded
that
allows
us
to
have
it
move
again.
It's
a
it's
a
very
important
because
when
all
those
things
come
in
together
at
the
same
plane,
you
have
to
be
able
to
lap
it
and
if
you
can't
lap
it
without
welding
it,
you
get
these
problems
of
of
failure
at
those
connections
by
allowing
us
to
lap
and
fold
the
metal.
P
It
allows
us
to
properly
let
the
metals
move
and
I
think
that's
a
three-quarter
inch
height
increase
on
the
two
remaining
vertical
battens,
so
they're
about
three
quarters
of
an
inch
higher.
If
you
will
than
the
Chevron
the
the
zigzag
battens.
So
that's
correct,
there's
they're
slightly
higher
and
allowing
us
to
make
those
lat
lap
details.
We
built
the
mock-ups
of
all
this
and
lead
and
and
let
go
to
Copper
that
and.
J
It's
not
without
precedent
and
Larry's
team
found
images
of
at
least
two
examples
in
Europe
Larry
right
that
revise
the
design
to
address
this
very
situation.
Yeah.
P
P
So
that,
now
that
that
corresponds
similarly
to
the
the
existing
condition
at
the
at
the
Corners,
the
hips
are
raised
already
they're.
Currently
in
the
current
detailing
the
hip
or
Corner
metal
sections
are
raised
off
the
batons
currently.
P
It's
a
tricky
thing
to
detail
in
metal
and
to
ensure
that
it
won't
come
apart,
very
tricky.
E
C
K
A
lot
I
can
actually
attach
to
the
Chevron
in
the
first
place
in
the
building
when
I
go
by
a
lot.
So
I
think
that
is
it'll.
E
Consideration
of
all
of
the
approvals
whatever
McGraw
Tower
is
a
contributing
element
in
the
historic
district.
The
Chevron
route
was
installed
in
1935,
believe
it
has
outside
of
the
period
of
significance,
but
make
it
clear
that
it
gain
significance
in
its
own
right
and
it's
considered
a
character-defined
feature
of
in
the
historically
practical.
That
way,.
C
H
You
resolution
RC,
whereas
yours
Library,
161,
whole
Plaza,
is
located
within
the
Cornell
art
Squad
historic
district
is
designated
under
section
228-s3
of
the
city
of
the
convincible
code
in
1990,
and
where
is
the
set
forth
in
two
to
eight
section?
2
to
8-4
of
the
municipal
code,
an
application
for
his
type
of
appropriateness,
dated
November
18
2022
was
submitted
for
review
to
the
Ithaca
landmarks
preservation.
Commission
ilpc
by
Jay
Shermana
AIA,
lead
AP,
associate
University
architect
on
behalf
of
property
owner
of
Cornell
University,
including
the
following
one.
H
Two
narratives
are
exactly
titled
description
of
proposed
changes
and
reasons
for
changes
to
two
sheets
of
photographs
containing
10
images,
documenting
existing
conditions.
Three,
a
sheet
titled
history
of
the
tower
roof
for
a
sheet
title.
Existing
Chevron
timeline
provide
a
sheet
titled
existing
Chevron
roof,
lead
coated,
copper,
six,
a
sheet
existing
interposed,
elevations;
seven,
a
sheet
titled
existing
and
proposed
views.
H
H
Outside
of
the
period
of
significance,
however,
it
has
gained
significance
in
its
own
right
since
that
time,
McGraw
Tower,
with
his
clock,
faces
and
steeply
pitched
roof,
is
one
of
the
most
recognizable
structures
on
Carnival.
University's
campus
is
a
symbol
of
both
the
institution
and
city.
It's
chevron
pattern
lead
coated,
copper
roof
replaced
the
original
glazed
terracotta
tile
roofing
during
the
district's
period
of
significance.
Sorry.
H
The
ilpc
must
determined
that
the
opposed
exterior
work
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
effect
on
the
aesthetic,
historical
or
architectural
significance
and
value
of
either
the
landmark
or
if
the
Improvement
is
within
District,
of
the
neighboring
improvements
in
such
District
and
considering
architectural
and
cultural
value,
the
commission
shall
consider
whether
the
proposed
change
is
consistent
with
the
historic
value
and
the
spirit
of
the
architectural
style
of
the
landmark
or
District,
in
accordance
with
Section
228-6,
the
municipal
code.
In
making
this
determination,
the
commission
is
Guided
by
the
principles
set
forth
in
section.
H
228-6-B
of
the
municipal
code
is
further
elaborated
in
section
228-6c
and
by
the
Secretary
of
the
Interior
standards
for
rehabilitation.
In
this
case,
specifically,
the
following
principles
and
standards
principle
number
two,
the
historic
features,
a
property
located
within
and
contributing
to
the
significance
of
an
historic
district
shall
be
altered
as
little
as
possible
and
any
alterations
made.
Shall
be
compatible
with
both
the
historic
character
of
the
individual
property
and
the
character
of
The
District
as
a
whole
standard
number,
two,
the
historic
district,
historic
character
of
a
property
will
be
retained
and
preserved.
H
The
removal
of
distinctive
materials
or
alteration
of
features
and
spaces
that
characterize
the
property
will
be
avoided.
Standard
number,
six
deteriorated
historic
features
shall
be
repaired
rather
replaced
when
the
severity
of
deterioration
requires
replacement
of
a
distinctive
feature.
The
new
feature
shall
match
the
oil
and
design
color,
texture
and
other
visual
qualities
and
where
possible,
materials
replacement
of
missing
features
shall
be
substantiated
by
documentary,
physical
or
pictorial
evidence
standard
number,
nine
new
additions,
exterior
alterations
are
related.
New
construction
shall
not
destroy
historic
materials
that
characterize
the
property.
B
H
H
H
Also
with
respect
to
principle,
number
two
and
standard
number
nine.
The
proposed
Roofing
is
compatible
with
the
massing
size,
scale
and
Architectural
features
of
the
property
and
its
environment
resolve
the
based
on
the
findings
set
forth
above
the
proposal
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
effect
on
the
aesthetic,
historical
or
architectural
significance
of
the
coronal
Arts
aquatic
historic
district
has
set
forth
in
section
228-6
and
be
a
further
resolved
with
the
Ithaca
Landmark
preservation.
C
K
A
C
E
E
Yeah
no
Mike
there
was
but
the
applicant
isn't
here.
So
we
moved
to
okay.
Q
Perfect
I
won't
complain.
Okay,
so
I
apologize
for
my
horse
voice
here,
I'm
been
laid
Low
by
the
global
tripodemic.
Q
Otherwise
I
would
be
there
in
person.
Brian
should
I
just
present
my
screen,
or
do
you
guys
need
to
share
my
presentation?
You.
B
B
Q
Okay,
can
you
guys
see
that?
Okay?
Thank
you
all
right,
so
we
wanted
to,
as
some
of
you
will
remember,
we
were
here
last
month
presenting
a
design
for
the
enclosure
of
the
west
facing
porch
at
711,
East,
Seneca
Street,
it's
on
the
corner
of
Quarry
and
Seneca.
Q
Seneca
Street
faces
this
facade,
and-
and
this
is
the
west
facing
porch,
we
were
looking
at
in
closing
today.
We
kind
of
wanted
to
run
through.
We
just
wanted
to
get
give
a
little
overview
of
modern
living.
Rentals
and
sort
of
what
Charlie's
business
is
about.
Q
Look
at
a
few
of
the
projects
he's
done
in
the
the
historic
district
there
just
to
set
a
bit
of
a
precedent
for
the
way
modern
living
rentals
acts
as
a
building
owner
and
then
go
through
a
couple
precedents.
We
found
in
the
historic
district
for
porch
and
closures
that
were
taking
a
bit
of
inspiration
from
with
the
revised
design
and
then
look
at
the
actual,
revised
design
itself.
So
to
start
I'll,
just
let
Charlie
talk
a
little
bit
about
modern
living,
rentals
foreign.
L
L
You
know
the
first
one
or
one
of
the
latest
I
just
want
to
run
through,
maybe
like
four
of
the
latest
projects,
real
quick.
So
that's
actually
a
typo
in
the
address.
It's
actually
601
East
State
Street
on
the
corner
of
Ferris.
So
that's
a
building.
We
bought
last
March
and
we
just
finished
it.
This
fall.
We
thought
it
came
out
really.
Nice
I
mean
the
building
hadn't,
seen
any
exterior
updates
in
probably
almost
25
years.
L
So
unfortunately,
we
couldn't
find
a
before
picture
of
that,
but
some
of
you
may
have
seen
it
the
next
one
we
did
was.
This
was
last
fall.
We
finished
two
projects
on
the
hundred
block
of
store.
One
was
110
store,
so
here
we
just
you
know
we
put
a
new
roof
on
and
we
gave
it
a
much
needed
paint
job.
L
The
next
one
is
113
stored
out
here.
We
also
did
a
new
roof.
We
painted
the
building,
as
you
can
see
in
the
before
photo.
The
exterior
wall
was
falling,
so
we
worked
with
Brian
to
get
permission
to
take
down
that
old
wall
and
put
up
a
new
wall.
L
Unfortunately,
I
kept
getting
graffitied,
so
this
last
ball.
We
actually
brought
in
an
artist
to
put
a
nice
mural
on
there
and
kind
of
highlighted
Cornell
and
Ithaca
College,
which
is
primarily
what
our
company
focus
on
as
far
as
rentals.
So
we
thought
that
came
out
nice
and
then
we
literally
just
finished
one
over
at
105
Highland
place
this
week.
L
You
know
we're
in
the
process
of
actually
replacing
a
few
windows
that
were
replaced
without
the
ilpc's
permission
from
the
previous
owner
and
obviously,
as
you
can
see,
we
gave
it
a
pretty
nice
paint.
Job
I
also
wanted
to
kind
of
update
the
the
7-Eleven
window
situation
so.
O
L
To
make
sure
it's
clear,
you
know
we
hadn't
closed
or
bought
the
building
last
month
when
we
visited
the
board,
so
we
we
just
actually
recently
closed
this
month
and
it
was
brought
to
our
attention
as
well
in
one
of
the
pre-app
meetings
with
the
ilpc
that
you
know
those
windows
were
changed
without
their
blessing,
so
we
are
in
the
process
right
now
of
getting
quotes
for
new
windows.
L
L
I
did
work
out
something
with
the
seller
that
we're
holding
a
decent
amount
in
escrow
that
should
hopefully
cover
the
cost
of
all
those
windows.
So
you
know
we
don't
have
all
our
answers
yet,
but
you
know-
hopefully,
maybe
next
month
or
the
following
month-
we'll
be
back
here
with
the
board
to
get
approvals
for
those
I
wasn't
sure
if
it
was.
L
If
some
of
the
board
members
thought
that
you
know
myself
or
my
company
may
have
changed
those
windows
without
permission,
so
I
just
want
to
kind
of
clear
that
up
yeah
so
but
anyway,
back
to
7-Eleven,
Mike
and
I
and
with
some
good
direction
from
Brian.
L
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
looking
at
different
buildings
throughout
the
historic
district
that
have
been
approved
to
enclose
the
porches,
and
we
think
we've
come
up
with
a
really
nice
design
that
gives
the
space
much
better
use,
while
also
really
incorporating
the
historic
look
of
the
building
in
the
neighborhood.
So
we're
really
hoping
that
you,
like
the
design
and
that
you're
able
to
approve
the
enclosure.
Q
Q
Chris
anagost
was
a
nice
resource,
pointing
me
to
various
projects
to
look
at,
and
we
wanted
to
just
look
at
a
few
historic
projects
close
to
this.
That
kind
of
at
least
establish
a
bit
of
a
precedent
for
the
enclosure
of
some
of
the
projects
designed
by
William,
Henry,
Miller
or
William
Henry
Miller's
office,
and
so
the
first
one
we
looked
at
was
603
East,
Seneca
Street,
where
they
actually
had.
Q
Q
Obviously
this
is
a
bit
quite
a
bit
more
solid
than
we'd
be
looking
to
sort
of
take
inspiration
from
a
project
that
I
was
actually
really
excited
about.
I
I
sort
of
came
came
across
just
walking
the
historic
district
was
this
back
porch
at
the
sage
house.
I
couldn't
confirm
if
this
was
originally
enclosed
or
if
it
was
enclosed
at
some
point
in
time,
but
the
detailing
was
remarkably
similar
to
the
back
porch
at
our
home.
Q
It
has
a
lower
solid
panel,
these
this
sort
of
short
baluster
profile,
and
then
they
had
sort
of
infilled.
This
opening
with
large
a
large
gliding
sliding
window
so
sort
of
keep
this
in
your
mind,
because
we've
sort
of
taken
this
as
a
as
a
strong
precedent
for
the
strategy
we're
taking
with
the
revised
design,
something
also
I
felt
they
they
did
really
well.
Was
they
infilled
behind
this
baluster
with
a
sort
of
raised
or
a
trim
panel?
So
it's
almost
like
a
shaker
style.
Q
Q
There's
the
Miller
Heller
house
was
another
example
of
porch
enclosure.
You
know
this.
This
house,
I
was
told,
was
modified
many
times
over
its
life
by
William,
Henry,
Miller
himself
and
then
Gray
Court
Apartments
was
another
precedent
that
Brian
had
pointed
me
to
the
the
back
porches
in
this
building
being
enclosed.
Q
Q
There's
a
couple
other
projects
I
found
in
the
area
that
it
also
had
enclosed
porches.
This
116
obviously,
is
not
a
very
successful
attempt
at
an
enclosed
porch,
but
I
thought
604,
East
Seneca
right
down
the
street
from
our
project,
their
back
porch.
They
had
done
a
fairly
nice
job.
What
yeah
I
can
only
assume
it
was
enclosed.
Q
It
looks
like
it
was,
and
then
a
couple
nice
projects
on
Orchard
Orchard
Place
that
I
also
thought
did
a
nice
job
with
with
just
large
openings
and
closing
a
porch
in
a
fairly
respectful
manner.
Q
So
again,
you
know
these
are
some
existing
photos
of
the
project.
This
is
the
the
west
facing
west
facing
porch
that
were
aiming
to
enclose
it's
it's
fairly,
concealed
from
Seneca
Street,
but
you
sort
of
you
know
as
a
primary
facade,
you
sort
of
see
the
the
end
of
the
porch.
Here
again,
this
is
a
close-up
of
the
the
baluster
design
that
was
I.
Think
really
similar
to
that
that
we
looked
at
in
the
in
the
precedent
of
the
sage
house,
a
few
historic
photos.
Q
This
is
the
Seneca,
the
Seneca
Street
facade.
Q
This
is
the
Quarry
Street
facade.
It's
almost
like
the
Quarry
Street
was
almost
a
secondary
facade
to
the
Seneca
Street.
Q
We
did
a
bunch
of
digging
and
we're
actually
able
to
confirm
from
Christine
O'malley
that
there
was
newspaper
evidence
that
indicates
the
house
was
the
work
of
E
green,
who
was
in
Miller's
office.
So
it
appears
the
project
came
out
of
Miller's
office,
but
it
wasn't
a
William
Henry,
Miller
design
itself,
not
to
say
it's
not
a
special
home,
but
I
know
there
was
added
significant
sort
of
placed
on
it
in
the
previous
meeting,
because
there
was
the
potential
that
it
was
of
William
Henry,
Miller
design.
Q
Q
Looked
a
little
strange
and
the
windows
get
to
be
almost
like
seven
or
eight
feet
tall,
so
they
they
sort
of
even
it's
it's
hard
to
get
a
functional
window
that
size
and
I
really
felt
like
the
the
sage
house,
did
a
nice
job
of
infilling
that
that
area
behind
the
balusters
that,
rather
than
do
that
with
glass.
Adding
this
paneled
trim
detail
behind
that
behind
those
balusters
would
be
a
nice
way
to
resolve
everything,
so
we're
proposing
glider
windows
from
post
to
post,
so
that
that
whole
opening
is
basically
window.
Q
And
then
it
goes
from
the
top
of
the
railing
to
the
underside
of
this
existing
piece
of
trim
with
both
the
upper
and
lower
baluster
areas
and
filled
with
that
trim
panel.
Some
of
these
gliders
will
be
operable
and
some
will
be
fixed
as
we'll
have
areas
where
walls
die
into
these
mullions.
But
we
can.
Q
Just
a
blow
up
of
that
Sage
house
image
that
we're
taking
some
inspiration
from
so
yeah
again,
the
the
details
would
be
maintaining
the
existing
lower
paneling
panel
and
the
existing
open
railing
and
infilling
behind
it,
with
a
1x4
painted
trim
to
match
the
panel
infilling
post
to
post
with
Marvin
aluminum,
clad
wood
glider
window
with
the
the
aluminum
finish
sort
of
chosen
to
match
the
pink
color
so
that
it
looks
sort
of
very
monolithic
and
inconsistent
and
and
reads
as
all
porch
and
then
again
the
1x4
painted
trim
panel
up
above
as
well.
Q
So
here's
the
revised
overall
View.
You
know
we
have
a
quad.
Well,
it's
a
triple
on
the
end.
You
have
inoperable
pain
on
each
end
with
a
large
panel
infilling
the
center
and
then
almost
equal
gliders.
The
two
on
the
ends
end
up
a
little
bit
smaller
because
we
have
an
end
wall
condition,
but
then
the
three
Center
ones
are
three
equal
gliders.
Q
Q
You
know
we're
proposing
a
sort
of
four
panel
window,
so
you
know
you
have
eight
panels
total
and
then
no
casing,
no
exterior
casings
we'd
be
providing
window
trim
to
match
the
existing
wood
around
the
windows,
just
a
few
more
views.
This
is
the
other
Corner.
Q
This
is
kind
of
a
close-up
of
the
corner.
We'd
have
another
sort
of
piece
of
wood
trim
at
the
corner.
The
width
of
this
little
cornice
just
to
handle
the
end
wall,
condition
of
the
enclosure
here
so
yeah,
that's
that's
kind
of
sums
up
our
revised
design.
Q
You
know
we're
sort
of
excited
and
appreciated
the
feedback
from
the
previous
meeting
it
it.
It's
still.
We
feel,
like
really
reads
like
a
porch,
but
it'll
help.
Q
Sorry,
just
stop
presenting
you
know
it's
really
going
to
help
us,
invest
in
the
the
you
know,
the
upkeep
and
the
the
rehabilitation
of
the
overall
structure
and
keep
this
building
functional
and
useful.
Far
into
the
future,
under
Charlie
and
modern
living
rental
stewardship,
so
yeah,
we
appreciate
you
giving
us
the
time
and
are
interested
in
what
you
guys
think
of
the
updated
design.
H
B
K
I
think
it
is
a
nice
design
available
for
it
I'm
not
in
favor
of
influencing
the
forge.
However,
my
opinion
hasn't
changed.
I
think
this
was
completely
on
the
rear
facade.
Maybe
a
different
story.
I
think
the
sage
hasn't
a
good
example
of
a
very
rear
forged,
that's
very
minor
on
that
property.
That's
enclosed!
K
This
is
the
main
facade
and
vegetation
something
goes,
and
so
I'm
I'm
a
no-go,
even
though
I
think
the
design
is
far
superior
to
the
one
we
saw
last
month,
but
I,
don't
think
any
of
the
examples,
including
closing
before
it
should
happen
under
iotcl.
E
Oud
there
there
was
one
in
2003.,
it
was
403
Wyckoff
Ave,
it's
one
of
the
bridges
properties
they
I
did
bring
materials.
If
people
are
interested
in
seeing
what
the
house
looked
like
when
it
was
designated
and
then
the
important
enclosure.
E
Those
out
I
tried
to
find
the
minutes
from
that
meeting
and
I
couldn't
find
them.
B
E
So
this
was
approved
by
the
ilpc.
There
were
some
issues
with
how
the
torch
was
detailed
after
the
project
was
completed,
and
they
did
that
to
revise
the
work
that
we've
done,
but
it
was
it
is.
There
was
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
issue
for
this
most
human.
B
E
On
the
interior,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
interior
program
was
I,
don't
think
at
least
the
application
materials
I
could
find
it
didn't.
H
H
Kind
of
one
issue
is
that
it's
one
thing
if
you're
closing
an
open
porch
into
like
one
big
space,
Sun
porch,
which
would
still
have
more
transparency,
but
when
you
put
in
practitions
and
furniture
and
dressers
and
curtains
and
stuff
that
the
transparency
is
evidently
exposed
is
not
as
great
as
if
it
was
really
just
one
big
open
space
I
can
confirm.
There
is
one
big
open
space.
C
C
B
I
And
someone
ever
cared
to
some
happy
day
in
the
future.
This
this
alteration
could
be
removed
with
no
no
injury
to
the
original
building.
I
I
always
think
of
that
as
one
of
the
sad
porches
as
I
walk
walk
around
Ithaca
because
it
once
had
such
a
beautiful
view
to
the
west,
and
now
it's
you
know
now:
it's
nothing.
It's
just
in
Shadow
and
so
I
I
think
in
some
really
important
way
it
it
doesn't
function
as
a
porch.
The
way
it
was
intended
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I'm
I
would
be
more
open
to
its
inquiry.
L
May
I
add
a
comment
to
that,
so
we
actually
built
the
building
next
door
at
707.
East
Seneca
Street,
we're
incredibly
proud
of
that
building
in
2015
that
you
know
we
bought
the
the
lot
from
the
city,
so
it
was
a
vacant
lot
at
that
time
it
did
provide
views
since
we
constructed
that
building.
L
It
has
taken
away
a
lot
of
those
views
and
the
side
of
the
sports
really
just
faces
that
building
next
door,
that
I
do
own
I
actually
talked
to
the
former
owner
and
I.
You
know
I
believe
they
owned
the
building
for
over
15
years
and
I
asked
if
they
had
anybody.
That
was
actually
utilizing
this
porch
and
their
response
was
no.
They
never
had
anybody
on
the
porch
and
in
fact
they
discouraged
all
their
tenants.
L
Remember
going
on
that
porch
in
the
seven
years
that
I've
owned
the
building
next
door
and
been
there
and
been
by
the
project.
I've,
never
I've,
never
seen
anybody
on
this
porch
either.
L
You
know
I
really
feel
like
the
space
goes
to
much
better
use.
I
know
that
the
city
needs
more
housing
and
they
need
more
density,
and
this
allows
for
like
three
great
living
environments,
for
you
know,
typically,
what
most
likely
will
be
college
students
and
I'd
like
to
point
out
one
other
thing
that
this
addition
to
the
space
Also,
our
understanding
is
as
we're
working
through
our
construction
documents
triggers
the
whole
building
to
be
sprinkled.
L
You
know,
obviously,
which
creates
a
much
safer
building
for
not
only
just
the
three
people
living
in
this
space,
but
the
14
other
occupants
throughout
the
entire
building.
I
know,
that's
not
so
much.
What
weighs
in
your
decision
on
approving
this
but
I
think
it's
something
to
consider.
K
I
wouldn't
exactly
point
out
that
we're
not
allowed
to
consider
density
desirability
of
increasing
housing
and
Ithaca
for
a
lot.
So.
B
L
Q
Does
use
Factor
at
all
into
your
consideration,
though,
because
I
do
think
you
know
there's
sort
of
a
point
to
this:
somewhat
dilapidated
unused,
porch
being
given
a
more
functional
and
useful
life
as
bedroom
space.
You
know
outside
of
a
density,
Financial
argument.
Is
there
any
consideration
there?
Does
that
not
really
sort
of
factor
into
your?
C
C
C
The
one
thing
that
I
noticed
when
I
walked
around
that
property,
especially
going
down
Quarry,
Street
and
and
just
seeing
the
neighboring
properties
most
of
them
have
fairly
large
porches.
It's
a
detail,
that's
fairly
important,
so
that
I
can
see
what
you're
doing
here
is
because
of
the
building
next
door
and
the
position
of
that
porch
compared
to
what
it
really
had
been
in
the
neighborhood
I
can
see
your
rationale
in
doing
this,
but
I
am
a
little
concerned
about
okay.
C
What
effect
is
this
going
to
have
on
the
other
nearby
houses
that
have
these
large
porches
and
that
that
would
be
for
eyes
to
get
someone
and
Sir?
What
kind
of
precedent
are
we
setting
it's
showing
all
these
other
buildings?
In
that
neighborhood
I
can
see
your
position
and
I
I
can
see
many
rational
reasons.
Things
going
that
problem
I'm,
not
sure,
if
I'm
going
to
vote
for
this
yet
I'm
sitting
here,
thinking
about
it
pretty
strongly,
but
that
would
be
my
main
concern.
C
C
E
I
should
note
that
Avi
went
upstairs
to
participate
in
the
discussion
of
this
project,
so
he
may
or
may
not
be
back
for
the
vote
so.
E
I
E
E
Might
might
come
back,
it
depends
how
long
the
their
presentation.
M
E
Do
you
feel,
do
you,
commission,
the
commission
members
that
are
here?
Do
you
feel
you
have
enough
information
from
the
applicants
to
make
a
decision
if
Avi
is
able
to
return
later
yeah?
Yes,
are
there
any
additional
questions
or
comments
for
the
applicants.
E
M
I
Well,
at
this
point
it
seems
it's
not
going
to
pass
I
mean
because
Caitlyn
I
think
has
made
her
view
clear
and-
and
you
know
other
people
may
be
on
the
fence.
I
E
Would
you
and
and
again
you
can
after
the
applicants
can
comment
as
well?
Do
you
want
the
applicants
to
come
back
when
you
are
able
to
vote
after
a
hobby
is
able
to
return
or
do
you
want
to,
or
you
know,
do
you
think
you
can
vote
without
having
them
here?
What
I
guess
is
the
question
and
do
the
applicants
want
to
be
here.
K
E
I
mean
I
always
wanted
to
say,
reduce.
We
have
other
business.
We
would
continue
to
go
through
the
other
business
if
he's
able
to
return
after
while
we're
working
on
the
other
business.
But
if
not,
we
table
it
and.
C
K
L
I
want
to
just
confirm
something
you
know,
because
maybe
this
could
help
in
the
decision
process
Mike
if
the
porch
was
enclosed
and
the
building
was
sprinkled.
It's
my
understanding
that
it
would
not
need
the
front
fire
escape.
That's
on
Quarry.
Can
you
confirm
that
yeah.
Q
So
we're
fairly
sure
that
if,
if,
if
we
do
this
addition
and
sprinkler
the
building
that
the
the
building
could
function
as
a
single
means
of
egress
building,
so
we
wouldn't
need
the
fire
escape
anymore
on
the
front
of
the
building.
Q
L
A
L
H
H
This
is
there
a
photograph
of
this
fire
escapes.
E
So
there
were,
there
were
letters
from
the
public
four
of
them
and
support,
and
then
there
was
an
additional
comment
that
came
in
after
the
deadline,
but
I
told
the
the
person
that
he
could
submit
his
comment.
S.
E
Through
to
you,
I
can't
use
the
link
method
for
some
reason.
Here's
my
comment
on
the
appreciation
related
to
711
East
Seneca
Street
I've
been
familiar
with
the
with
and
greatly
loved
this
house
for
over
60
years,
having
lived
two
blocks
away
from
it
on
East
Seneca
Street
in
the
early
60s,
and
on
the
same
block
as
it's
East
Side
that
faces
on
Quarry
Street.
Since
then,
I
also
knew
the
the
Lee
family
who
owned
it
for
many
years
into
the
1980s.
E
If
I
recall
correctly,
I've
always
responded
to
it's
handsome,
so
much
simplified
opinion
style.
It's
most
Splendid
feature
was
always
this
Majestic
side,
not
back
porch
covered
by
the
western
part
of
the
second
floor,
but
open
on
three
sides
and
facing
west
with
Vistas
across
the
valley.
In
my
opinion,
707
East
Seneca
Street
never
should
have
been
allowed
to
be
built
to
its
current
height,
which
has
meant
that
the
old
Vista
from
from
the
porch
became
a
visual
confrontation
with
the
roof.
E
I'm
always
I'm,
also
not
in
favor
of
increasing
the
occupancy
of
711
East
Seneca
Street,
where
our,
where
are
the
additional
residents,
depart
I'm
all
too
familiar
with
the
parking
density
of
the
100
block
of
North
Port
Street,
which
I
assume
will
only
be
aggravated
by
the
enclosure
of
the
side.
Porch.
Let's
not
forget
that
707
added
a
truly
shocking
18
bedrooms
to
the
neighborhood.
How
many
more
will
the
enclosure
have
and
then
that's
David
daily.
E
110
North
Quarry
Street,
so
that
is
the
that
is
all
of
the
written
comments
that
we've
received.
No
members
of
the
public
signed
up
to
speak
this
evening
and
there
are
no
members
of
the
public
in
the
waiting
room
wishing
to
address
the
commission.
E
So
the
outstanding
question
was
the
fire
escape
and
whether
that
the
removal
of
the
firescape
had
any
bearing
I
think
I
think
the
commission
would
be
supportive
of
the
remote
removal,
but
I
don't
think
they
can
use
that
as
a
reason
for
allowing
the
portion
closure,
they
can't
trade,
the
removal
of
one
non-historic
feature
or
the
approval
of
another.
C
So
at
this
point,
until
obvious
shows
up
the
table,
we'll
move
on.
E
K
Confused
yeah
so.
E
B
H
E
I
will
distribute
do
we
do
we,
instead
of
having
obvious
that
try
to
stop
in
after
his
meeting?
Do
we
just
want
to
table
this
for
tonight
and
and
address
it
in
January
foreign.
Q
Yeah
thanks
everyone,
we'll
we'll
see
you
next
month.
Q
E
Okay,
so
the
applicant
for
702,
East,
Buffalo
Street,
is
still
not
in
the
virtual
waiting
room
and
has
not
arrived
at
the
meeting.
Do
you
feel
comfortable
with
me
presenting
the
project
on
his
behalf?
E
It
was
also
a
comment
that
there
wasn't
a
sign
posted
at
the
property
there's
any.
Maybe
the
best
action
for
that
is
to
Table
in
yeah.
B
E
Where
did
mine?
Okay,
let's
go
I.
E
So
next,
next
time
on,
the
agenda
is
public
comment.
Any
matters
of
Interest
yeah.
E
So
it's
the
concrete
walk,
so
he
the
applicant
removed
several
non-historic
features,
but
also
removed
the
what
is
likely
the
historic
approach
to
the
house
when
we're
both
there
used
to
be
a
Divine
walkway
from
the
public
sidewalk
to
the
front
porch,
and
he
took
that
out
when
he
braided
the
front
yard
and
re-aligned
the
sidewalk
to
go
to
the
driveway.
Instead,
it.
E
Grown
in
yeah,
it
was
I
think
it
was
done
earlier
this
spring
it
was
well
at
least
in
the
last
two
years.
It
was
one
way
for
his
last
certificate
of
compliance
and
then
a
different
way
for
this
year's
Transportation.
E
E
E
So
this
is
in
response
to
the
proposed
development
of
the
former
Gunner
faculty
site.
E
So,
as
I'm
sure,
all
of
you
know,
the
Ithaca
Gun
smokestack
is
still
standing
and
its
future
in
many
ways
stands
with
the
development
agreement
that
being
discussed
by
Council,
so
I
distributed
the
proposed
or
the
draft
development
agreement
between
the
developers
of
the
breeze,
which
is
the
name
of
the
development
project
and
the
city
and
the
both
the
city
and
the
developer,
commit
to
certain
things.
E
One
of
the
items
that
is
discussed
is
the
smokestack
and
how
it
will
be
handled
after
the
Property
Transfers
to
or
is
developed
by,
the
property
owner.
So
the
reason
why
I
thought
it
was
a
great
idea
to
discuss
it
here
and
Lisa
Nicholas.
The
director
of
planning
thought
it
was
a
great
idea
for
the
iltc
versus
discussed
is.
Are
there
any
specific
recommendations
that
the
commission
would
like
to
make
to
Common
Council
about
the
smokestack
and
the
development
agreement?
So
they
have
that
in
mind
as
their
approving
and
building
on
the
proposal.
E
So
I
know
that
I
handed
it
out
this
evening,
I
didn't
want
to
distribute
it
before
the
planning
committee
had
the
opportunity
to
review
it
last
week.
That's
why
it
wasn't
in
your
packet.
I
didn't
think
that
was
fair
for
you
guys
to
have
an
advanced
copy.
So
what
is
being
proposed
is
right.
Now
the
Smoke
Stack
is
owned
by
the
developer,
and
the
city
has
an
option
to
participate
in
the
Caitlyn.
Are
you
missing
your
copy
I.
E
What
is
proposed
is
that
the
city
has
the
option
to
partner
with
the
developer,
to
do
a
a
structural
assessment
of
the
smokestack
to
see
whether
it's,
whether
it
is
structurally
sound
and
then,
depending
on
the
results
of
that
report,
they
have
the
option
of
acquiring
the
pro
the
smoke
for
a
dollar
or
not,
and
and
all
of
that
is
outlined
in
the
agreement.
E
So,
as
many
of
you
know,
the
Smoke
Stack
is
associated
with
the
Epic
gun,
Factory
and
the
business
they
produce
world-renowned
guns
that
are
still
recognized
by
people
throughout
the
world.
Today,
the
smokestack
is
the
only
thing
that's
left
from
the
factory.
It
is
a
roughly
1930s
status.
It's
not
the
only
thing.
There's
all
sets
of
lead
in
the
ground.
E
Well,
there's
all
sorts
of
blood
in
the
ground
and
there
is-
and
there
is
a
lot
of
community
feelings
about
the
disposition
of
this
particular
structure,
so
I
feel
strongly
that
it
should
be
preserved
and
some
feel
strongly
that
it
is
a
representation
of
the
gun
history
in
Ithaca
and
Lead
contamination
and
they
associate
it
with
negative
things.
So
this
is
your
opportunity
to
have
a
conversation
about
its
historic
significance.
It
is
an
undesignated
historic
resource
on
the
comprehensive
plan,
encourages
the
preservation
of
historic
resources,
whether
formally
designated
or
not,
I.
Think
they're,
I.
E
Don't
think
anyone
could
argue
that
this
is
not
a
historic
resource,
but
whether
it's
something
that
we
that
should
be
preserved
is
a
question
and
one
that
you
know
the
the
commission
had
the
opportunity
to
discuss.
They
also
have
the
opportunity
to
provide
recommendations
on
things
like.
Yes,
we
absolutely
think
you
should
participate
in
structural
analysis
of
the
building
and
we
fully
support
it.
E
We
encourage
you
to
do
it.
You
know
you
know
one.
You
know
if,
if
it's
to
turn
and
determine
that
it's
structurally
sound
and
you
know
it
can
be
preserved,
should
it
be
preserved
and
and
what
that
conversation
and
what
that
decision
looks
like
so.
E
Is
it
is
a
non-contiguous
parcel
owned
by
the
developer,
so
it's
I
believe
it's
adjacent
to
a
property
that
will
be
either
publicly
accessible
or
yeah.
There's
there
is
the
are
you
referencing,
The,
Overlook
or
yeah
I
can't
remember
then
yeah
but
I
think
it
wraps
around
the
property
and
ultimately
connects
to
the
site
where
the
Smoke
Stack
is
placed.
There
are
huge,
I
think
you're
right.
A
E
We
received
comments
from
dozens
of
citizens,
some
of
them
supporting
and
encouraging
local
designation
others.
You
know
arguing
that
it
was
again
given
the
the
current
climate
around
guns,
and
you
know
that
was
a
representation
of
that
also
the
lead
contamination
being
this
terrible.
This
act
being
a
terrible
reminder
that
that
it
should
be
demolished
and
should
be
designated
so
there's
there's
definitely
mixed
opinions,
but
yes,
we
did
discuss
it
several
several
years
ago.
B
E
Actually,
no
yeah,
and
that-
and
that
is
what
the
the
agreement
outlines
is
that
a
qualified
professional
would
be
hired
to
do
an
analysis.
Some
someone
like
vertical
access
or
another
group
that
has
experience
with
historic
structures
evaluating
you,
know
a
foundation.
The
the
bricks
that
are
used
to
rebuild
this
guy
I'm,
not
exactly
what
they
look
sure
what
they
look
like
in.
E
The
assessment
of
a
smokestack
but
definitely
determining
whether
it's
going
to
fall
down
tomorrow
or
in
the
next
50
years.
K
Well,
I
think
I,
remember,
I,
remember
the
conversations
when
we
rediscussed
it
before
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
I
think
it's
I!
Think
it's
regardless
of
someone
in
you,
know,
interpretation
of
what
should
ultimately
happened
to
I.
Think
it's
an
iconic
spot
in
the
city.
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
that's
a
very
I
think
it's
an
important
visual
reminder
in
The,
consistoric
Roots
as
being
some
combination
of
a
town
that
wasn't
completely
gobbled
up
by
higher
education
or
medicine.
I
mean
I.
K
Think
that
that's
really
where
the
city,
it's
not
a
criticism
of
the
city,
evolving
those
directions,
but
you
know
I,
think
the
city
has
a
has
an
important
industrial
history
and
a
lot
of
that
has
been
lost
because
of
the
evolving
land.
K
Use
again
no
criticism
in
that
per
se,
but
I,
you
know,
I
think
it
could
be
also
a
testament
to
labor
in
the
town
in
the
city
historically,
and
a
recognition
of
those
kind
of
roots
I
would
encourage
the
city
to
participate,
knowing
so
well
that
that
might
be
a
hard
economic
choice
to
make
and
I
think,
maybe
because
there
would
be
if
it
is
publicly
accessible.
That
would
be
a
component
in
it.
K
Do
I
think
you
say
something
at
all
costs.
You
know
not
necessarily
I
can
understand.
A
K
But
from
you
know
from
from
the
historic,
it's
certainly
historic
marker
of
the
history
of
the
city
and
if
it
becomes,
if
it's
a
reasonable
thing
to
accomplish,
that
would
encourage
the
city
to
do
it.
Okay,.
K
I
H
In
the
60s,
my
mother,
traveled
with
the
northern
I
guess,
Ontario
Hudson
Bay
went
to
live
with
some
Indian
Eskimos
were
Canadian
Americans
for
a
week
and
that
were
doing
Stone
gardening
and
some
carving
stuff.
Oh
Ithaca,
Ithaca
Gun,
oh
yeah,
and
she
was
like.
Where
are
we
wherever
else
you
go?
They
say:
oh
Cornell
right.
Oh,
it's
like
a
gun,
very
good.
B
So
I
so
the.
B
A
I
K
E
Yeah,
but
the
landmarks
landmarks
ordinance
also
provides
Provisions
for
the
city
in
in
situations
like
this,
where,
if
they
own
a
historic
resource
and
the
cost
of
rehabbing
it
in
a
in
an
appropriate
way,
costs
20
more
than
the
alternative.
They
can't
appeal
the
council.
A
E
You
know
a
vote
again.
This
is
purely
hypothetical,
but
a
vote
to
designate
the
building
would
be
marking
it
as
a
historic
feature,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
it
couldn't
it's
going
forward.
It's
got
full
protection
and
if
there
is,
if
you
know,
if
rehabbing
the
structure
to
make
sure
that
it
stands
and
is
safe
costs
20
more
than
you
know
demolishing
it,
and
that
the
council
has
the
opportunity
to
weigh
all
the
public
input
and
the
the
competing
interests
to
determine
what's
most
appropriate.
E
A
E
The
comments
on
tonight
is
probably
going
to
change
the
action
on
the
development
agreement.
It
just
would
be
something
that
I
share
later
with
common
council
members,
so
I'll
drop
the
memo.
I'll
share
it
with
the
group,
and
you
can
provide
comments
whether
I've
captured
the
conversation
correctly
or
not.
Whether
you
want
more
detail
added
I'll,
do
a
brief
history
of
the
the
resource
and
why
it's
considered
a
historic
resource
and
then
make
the
recommendation
that
this
city
participates.
H
E
So
this
area
there
are
no
print
materials
for
this.
So
if
for
those
of
you
that
follow
County
governments,
this
is
the
red
house
yeah.
So
several
years
ago
the
county
is
part
of
a
larger
land
purchase
on
Toyota
Street
acquired
this
property.
It
is
located
in
the
local
historic
district,
but
it
is
not
part
of
the
national
register
of
the
state
district.
E
C
E
Doesn't
it
doesn't
always
go
over
so
well,
but
this
is
I.
I
have
met
with
County
Planning
staff
and
we've
talked
about
the
house
and
they
understand
it's
historical
value.
One
of
the
county
staff
members
is
a
former
iipc
member.
So
she
fully
understands.
E
Thought
and
again
they
they
received
cost
estimates
for
rehabbing
the
structure
for
their
use,
which
paying
prevailing
wage
with
certain
improvements
that
are
required
for
a
public
facility
made
the
rehab
house
tremendously
expensive,
and
they
didn't
realize
that
those
those
expenses
would
not
be
the
same
for
a
private
developer.
They
also
didn't
realize
that,
with
it
being
locally
listed,
it's
eligible
for
several
incentives,
Sports
Rehabilitation,
so
they
learned
a
lot
and
you
know
any
additional
information
we
can
give
them.
E
I
think
we
we
just
came
to
it
again.
We
tabled
it
and
we
made
a
sound
decision,
but
anyway,
I
was
back
when
you
can
participate
in
the
last
few
things
on
each
other.
So
anyway,
this
is
you
know,
are.
Is
there
information
that
you
would
like
to
share
with
the
county
to
emphasize
the
importance
of
this
building
to
do
with
Park
historic
district
and
any
resources
that
you
would
like
to
share
with
them?
That
would
help
them
make
a
decision
to
save
them.
So.
E
They're
they
were
just
the
the
options
that
they
discussed
were
demolishing
the
building
and
using
the
site
as
parking,
because
they've
moved
on
from
the
site
as
their
Center
of
government
building
site
selling
the
building
to
a
private
developer.
E
Who
would
rehab
the
building
or
keeping
the
building
and
rehabbing
it
for
their
use?
So.
E
B
H
K
I
I
think
that
it's
I
think
it
would
be
more
thoughtful
to
recognize
that
this
house
was
recognized
by
the
city
when
it
was
included
in
the
historic
district
as
part
of
a
cohesive
neighborhood.
K
And
functionality
wise,
and
that
we
would
hope
that
the
county
would
recognize
the
the
city's
opinion.
In
that
I
mean
it
was
included
for
a
reason,
and
it
is
a
contributing
resource
and
the
house
is
not.
K
It's
not
deteriorated,
the
point
that
it
can't
be
salvaged
recently
and
what
a
shame
to
lose.
The
example
oh
and
I,
feel
myself
in
in
a
county
that
emphasizes
sustainability,
what
a
loss
for
you
to
lose
the
embodied
energy
encapsulated
in
that
building
for
parking.
K
E
They
might
lose
some
bird,
so
it
sounds
like
what
the
commission
would
like
is
a
is
a
memo
to
the
county,
supporting
the
sale
or
rehab
of
the
building
and
then
offering
some
information
on
the
history
of
the
building
and
why
it's
important
to
the
historic
district.
But
then
also
you
know,
resources
available
to
you
know
for
people
who
rehab
build-ups
like
this
I
will.
I
will
also
draft
that
memo.
A
I
Think
it's
a
very
valuable
building.
It's
a
big
building
and
and
in
a
great
location
and
many
people
would
yeah
would
be
interested
in
it.
I
feel
very
short
and,
and
as
Caitlyn
says,
I
mean
putting
aside
the
County's
purchase
of
this
very
large
downtown
area
and
then
kind
of
oh
yeah
being
whipsawed
on
the
whole.
The
whole
matter
that
the
that
the
final
result
should
be
the
destruction
of
a
historic
structure
in
favor
of
parking.
It's
I,
I'm
searching
for
words.
H
I
E
So
I
will
again
draft
that
memo.
It
will
likely
be
in
the
new
year
and
then
distribute
it
to
all
of
you
or
comments
before
I,
probably
through
Lisa's
share
of
the
client
Department.
Do.
E
So
they
seem
to
be
on
an
accelerated
timeline
earlier
in
the
year,
but
after
meeting
with
them,
they've
slowed
their
Pace
on
making
a
decision
on
the
the
red
house.
They
are
Consulting
with
historic
Ithaca
and
they
have
now
started,
including
them
in
their
facilities.
Discussions
when
they
talk
about
this
building.
E
I
do
feel
that
it's
it's
trending
toward
preservation
like
they
are
interested.
They
they
realize
the
importance
that
was
already
in
this
building
and
doing
the
right
thing
for
the
community.
E
K
K
E
No
I
I
I
agree
with
you
updating
the
district's
District
experience
of
significance.
E
I
I
have
been
talking
to
people
about
adaptive,
reuse
of
those
buildings.
They
were
designed
as
Office
Buildings.
They
can
still
be
all
to
go
along
because
they
don't
need
to
be.
E
A
E
Really
great
they're,
a
kind
of
really
great
article
about
mid-century
Banks
and
the
whole
transition
from
the
you
know:
Vault
Vault,
to
the
open
consumer
approach
to
banking
that
that
design
represents
and
the
picture
on
the
cover
is
that
bank
not.
E
So
it's
a
really
important,
it's
architecturally
very
important
to
the
to
the
district,
and
especially
it's
it's
proximity
to
the
banks
of
old
on
Bank
alley.
I
mean
it's!
It's
important
that
there's
no
connection
and.
E
C
H
C
E
Outside
the
opportunity
to
walk
through
the
building
and
it's
it's
a
high
style,
Italian
house
with
a
high
level
of
Integrity,
buried
Integrity
but
Integrity,
no
there's
great
Woodwork
and
yeah.
The
second
floor
has
been
altered
very
little.
The
first
floor
has
some
weird
layout
issues,
but
the
drop
ceilings
are
covering.
You
know:
18
inch,
plaster,
Crown,
moldings
and
medallions
I
mean
it's
they're.
What
12
foot
ceilings
on
the
first
floor?
It's
beautiful!
It's
a
big
scale
yeah,
so
I
will
draft
that
memo
too.
K
E
Anyway,
you
have
the
training
materials.
Now,
if
you
could
sign
the
acknowledgment
form
and
send
it
back
to
me
by
the
end
of
the
week,
I
have
to
make
sure
that
it
gets
to
Leslie
before
I
leave
for
the
holiday.
If,
if
you
don't
get
it
to
me
by
Thursday
afternoon,
we'll
send
it
to
Leslie
Moskowitz,
who
is
the
coordinator
of
all
main
sexual
harassment
prevention
training
so
that
it
gets
credited.
I
A
E
E
E
E
Lot
of
projects
finding
a
contractors
yeah.
B
H
E
E
It
doesn't
require
a
formal
approval,
it's
just
the
fire
that
we
renew
it
and
my
vote
is
required
and
then
the
2023
meeting
tentative
meeting
schedule
so
David
I
hope
this
makes
you
happy
I'm
proposing
moving
the
time
back
to
5
30..
Thank
you.
Does
that
work
for
everyone.
E
B
E
E
Yeah
yeah
long
meetings
but
I'm
used
to
that
yeah,
but
I've
enjoyed
it
and
it
it
may
turn
out
that
I'll
be
back
but
I
I,
suspect
yeah.
E
And
thank
you
all
for
your
commitments
to
this
business.
I
I
think
that's
pretty
remarkable.
That
makes
it
makes
it
a
very
interesting.
E
C
B
C
D
H
It
wasn't
required,
we
had,
we
had,
we
had
a
quorum,
but
we
we
didn't,
have
four.
Yes,.
B
A
B
H
I
think,
but
the
design
was
a
vastly
improved,
but
I
guess.
B
E
H
Yeah
I
just
think
it's
different
between
putting
three
little
dinky
bedrooms
with
twisting
prepared
pigeons
inside
there.
Then
a
nice
wide
open
space.