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B
Okay,
any
called
me
to
order,
in
addition
to
the
agenda,
deletions,
no
public
comments,
okay,
review
the
meeting
minutes
from
January
27th.
B
B
I
should
have
sent
it
out
the
gym,
so
I'm
gonna
have
to
constantly
go
back
and
forth.
Is
there?
Thank
you.
A
Right
but
on
it,
so
you
should
have
the
2022
audit
in
hand
again.
This
is
just
the
IRA,
not
the
whole
city,
where
I
we're
a
blended
component
of
the
city's
finances,
and
we
do
our
reports
separately.
So
we
can
meet
the
90-day
deadline
after
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
as
required
by
public
authorities
law.
A
This
is
a
clean
audit.
They
haven't.
There
is
no
issues,
it's
almost
really
similar
in
the
numbers
to
Prior
year.
It
looks
you
know,
there's
very
few
changes
in
the
overall
Outlook
of
the
agency
or
the
finances.
A
So
this
is
there
really
weren't
any
questions
that
we
generated
in
staff,
wise
or
thought
was
particularly
notable
other
than
to
answer
any
questions
you
have,
because
we're
essentially
very
similar
or
change
in
our
fund
balance
is
twenty
four
thousand
dollars
to
the
good,
but
those
numbers
are
always
a
little
hard
to
analyze,
because
when
we
make
a
loan,
that's
money
out
of
the
system,
yet
we're
going
to
get
a
screen
of
income
flowing
into
it.
So
fund
balance.
A
Isn't
always
you
know
the
monster
tip
of
whether
we're
doing
better
or
worse
than
a
prior
year?
And
we're
giving
out
grant
money
too,
which
is
another
flow
out,
so
there
were
no
issues
raised
by
the
auditor
and
they
completed
their
work
very
quickly.
The
biggest
issue
for
us
this
year
with
the
audit
is
the
fact
that
the
auditor
has
decided
they're
not
going
to
continue
to
do
the
cities
on
it.
C
A
C
A
Mileage
fee
in
Prior
years
this
year
we
had
a
good
pay,
the
full
fee
of
their
services.
So
it's
eleven
thousand
dollars
versus
nine
hundred
dollars,
so
we
had
to
come
up
with
11
thousand
dollars
this
year
at
the
paper
of
the
audit,
which
we
could
argue
is
part
of
the
city's
finances.
So
you
know
in
Prior
years
the
city
has
covered
that
ten
thousand
dollar
difference
so
and
we'll
talk
with
the
mayor
about
how
that's
going
to
proceed
and
Sarah's
decided
not
to
do
the
city's
audit
going
forward.
A
A
I
think
it
was
harder
to
schedule
them
in
their
I
mean
so
trustee,
Peter,
Sagan,
Nicholson
and
little
if
I
got
the
names
right
who
were
brought
up
by
incero
about
four
years
ago
and
I
think
consider
always
moving.
You
know
they
have
some
sort
of
areas
where
they
specialize
in
the
prior
auditor
was
specialized
in
public
in
school
and
Sarah
was
broader
and
or
not
one.
One
theory
is
that
they're
moving
out
of
doing
public
sector
work
as
much
as
they
were
before.
A
Another
issue
is
that
the
city
has
not
been
on
a
traditional
calendar
to
finish
the
work
on
a
timely
basis
to
get
it
ready
for
them
and
therefore
it
falls
into
other
schedules.
So,
for
example,
they
fall
into
the
school
schedule,
oftentimes,
which
puts
more
stress
and
then
Sarah
to
finish
their
work
and
do
at
the
same
time
it's
kind
of
like
a
you
know.
A
These
organizations
do
like
cities
are
done
in
March
and
April
and
schools
are
in
the
summer,
and
you
know
whatever
not
for
profits,
so
colleges
are
a
different
time,
and
so
that
may
play
a
role
in
it.
But
I
think
it's.
It
is
stressful
for
them.
When
this
they
have
to
certify.
You
know
the
organization's
finances
and
when
you're,
two
years
behind
that
that
creates
some
new
challenges.
Maybe
in
these
cases.
A
Catching
up
I
mean
the
two
years,
the
last
two
years
prior
to
the
pandemic.
They
had
basically
caught
up
for
a
snapshot
in
time.
Right
I.
Remember
that
and
then,
during
the
pandemic
there
were
staff
laid
off
in
the
finance
department
and
since
then
they
haven't
been
catching.
C
B
C
C
B
A
With
the
city
is
that
anything
it's
a
little
tricky
because
we're
finisher,
2022
and
the
other
is
going
to
come
in
and
do
2021.
for
the
city,
maybe
21
and
22
together,
but
we'll
be
next
year.
This
time
we'll
be
looking
at
2023
right
so
I.
But
if
we
have
an
auditor,
that's
just
designated
as
a
city's
auditor,
then
they
could
do
ours
and
roll
it
into
the
city.
Audit
and.
B
A
We
can
negotiate
that,
but
yeah
I
don't
know
if
it
yeah
I,
don't
know
whether
that
would
be.
Is
there
an
extra
cost
to
merge
the
two
together
into
the
city
account
courses
having
the
same
auditing
firm,
do
both
yeah
I
did
want
to
point
out
to
wait.
Wait,
wait,
wait,
wait,
oh
yeah,
so
right
behind
that
on
page
43
of
from
your
before
the
next
Revolution
regarding
the
public,
Affiliates
law
is
a
that
very
include
every
single
page
anyway,
it's
a
it's.
A
What
our
account
does
is
looking
at
the
adapted
budget
in
2022
versus
the
actual
so
budget
versus
actual
2022.
You
see
the
summary
lines
here
by
category
and
it
shows
that
our
actual
was
at
414
000
of
expenditures
where
your
adopted
budget
was
four
hundred
and
three
thousand.
The
main
difference
in
those
two
accounts
is
the
fact
that
in
mid-year,
the
IRA
approved
two
special
expenses
for
independent
contractors.
There
was
the
contractor
to
do
the
shared
kitchen
facility
project
and
also
the
homeless.
Housing
needs
assessment.
A
So
those
were,
let's
see,
nineteen
thousand
dollars
combined
I
think
for
those
two,
so
in
actuality
we
did
because
those
were
authorized
for
expenditures,
but
you
also
had
a
designated
Revenue
source
for
those
that
was
outside
of
our
budget.
We
actually
did
come
under
our
budget
if
you
exclude
those
two
attract
or
something,
but
so
just
wanted
to
make
you
aware
about
that.
Have
an
actual
versus
budget.
A
B
Another
time,
okay,
so
then
we're
moving
on
to
the
public
authorities
law
right.
A
B
A
Requirement
is
that,
with
by
the
end
of
March,
we
have
to
submit
the
reporting
in
their
format
on
their
website
on
information
in.
C
A
Budget
that
was
approved,
along
with
the
annual
report,
the
procurement
report,
the
investment
report
and
the
certified
audit,
which
we
just
discussed
the
audit.
All
those
things
are
submitted
in
there
in
that
format
and
and
it's
appropriate
that
they've,
reviewed
and
approved
by
the
agency,
so
I've
included
the
user-friendly
forms
that
they
provide
for
us.
Okay,
you
know
you
know,
the
goals
of
the
program
are
to
make
sure
that
organizations
are
transparent,
that
they're
meeting.
A
You
know
state
law
that
there
are
organized
in
a
way
that
is
ethical
and
and
inappropriate
for
their
for
the
agency,
so
I
mean
the
goals
are
great
to
do
that,
it
does
take
a
little.
You
know,
they're
designed
for
all
agencies,
there's
not
any
distinction
before
between
an
IRA
and
and
that
that's
through
it
I
mean
we're
all
this
treated
the
same
way
with
the
same
forms
that
we
fill
out.
A
So
this
is
that
submission
that
I
submitted
and
it's
it's
and
then
we
we
Link
in
a
lot
of
other
reports
that
are
at
the
back
of
the
forums
here
in
that
in
that
submission
in
that
submission.
So
I
would
clean
out
after
getting
through
the
forums
here,
that
there
is
an
investment
report
as
well
as
an
investment
policy
that
they
ask
us
to
take
a
look
at
especially
every
year
and
review
and
I'm
finding
that
page
number
for
you
after
somewhere
after
page
74.
A
It's
on
page
78.
of
your
packet
electronically,
so
we
have
investment
guidelines
and
they
ask
us
to
take
a
look
and
see
if
there
is
a
need
to
re-examine
those.
Every
year
they
basically
say
that
we
invest
the
monies
we
have
and
but
the
goal
of
principal
preservation
we
they're
invested
all
identities.
Financial
and
savings
accounts
everybody's
they're,
insured
up
to
250
000,
as
we
all
know,
by
reading
the
paper
recently,
what
that
limit
is
and
then
when
we
go
above
that
amount,
because
we
have
about
1.8
billion
dollars.
A
It
Is
collateralized
by
separate
investments
in
federal,
state,
municipal
bonds
and
so
behind.
This
report
is,
is
behind.
A
Is
the
report
of
our
investments?
I
guess
so
it
was
1.9
million
dollars
in
Bank
deposits
and
behind
that
is
a
page
that
doesn't
yeah.
This
essentially
identifies
that
that's
our
collateral
agreement,
Report
with
confidence
Financial,
which
has
an
agreement
with
melon
bank,
which
guarantees
that
they
will
keep
at
least
100
of
the
amount
of
our
balance
on
account.
That's
not
covered
by
FDIC
Insurance
in
in
investor
security
investment.
Instead,
in
the
event
that
African
Financial
went
under,
we
could
collect
on
those
swans
foreign.
A
They
haven't
met
so
far.
You
know
there's
again
some
of
the
the
way
the
regulations
are
written.
Some
of
the
rules
apply
to
state
public
authorities
who,
like
like
the
throughway
Authority
it's
created
by
well.
They
have
they
have
categories
of
state,
public
authorities
and
local
public
authorities
and
ideas.
Industrial
developing
agencies
have
their
own
special
rules
in
this
as
well.
So
sometimes
when
I
say
no,
it's
because
we're
not
subject
to
that
like
right,
like
the
financial
disclosure
of
individual
members,
we
don't
have
to
at
the
IRA
file.
A
Those
like
like
council
members,
do
please,
but
there
are
some
that
we
just
haven't
done
yet
and
I
didn't
have
an
error
in
this
one,
because
we
did
adapt
policy
last
year
to
prevent
the
extension
of
credit
to
employees
or
board
members.
Yes
and
I
somehow
hit
me
I
said
no
and
I
ended
up
with
no
here
I
noticed,
but
I
said
no.
We
didn't
do
that.
We
don't
have
that
policy.
In
fact,
we
do
have
that
policy
effect.
A
So
you
know
if
they
come
back
and
ask
me
about
that.
One
I'm
gonna,
say
well.
A
I
made
a
mistake
on
it's
not
easy
to
retract
the
the
form
once
you
hit
the
send
button
and
it's
a
big
process,
so
they
asked
me
about
it,
I'm
happy
to
answer
it,
but
there
are
agencies,
public
authorities
that
don't
submit
on
a
regular
basis
or
submit
one
report,
but
not
another
I
think
that's
where
their
focus
has
been
and
they've
been
very
closely
focused
on
ideas,
because
they
feel
that
Ida
is
are
sometimes
misusing
some
of
their
Authority
I
guess
when
they,
you
know,
provided
tax
Evan
for
I,
don't
know
car
dealership
or
something
like
that,
because
an
example
that.
B
A
C
A
That
right,
yes,
these
Investments,
that,
yes,
that's
the
short
way
of
thinking
about
it,.
C
A
C
A
C
A
Him
right
and
if
it's
hype,
funds
that
we're
investing
like
when
we
get
a
drawdown
from
the
federal
government
to
pay
for
a
NHS
project,
but
it
takes
12
days
before
we,
you
know
before
they
cash
the
check
or
whatever
that
interest
has
to
be
returned
to
HUD
if
it's
more
than
500
in
a
year,
so
there's
not
a
strong
incentive
to
invest.
If
we
stay
at
4.99,
we
get
to
keep
it.
A
If
we
go
to
501
I
think
we're
at
512
this
year
we
had
to
return
the
whole
amount
so
for
that
cloud,
accounts
that
are
that
are
bringing
that
money
in
it's
really
all
about
principal
reservation,
the
other
ones.
We
could
earn
a
little
bit
more,
but
you
know
the
risk.
You
know
we
don't
want
to
be.
We
don't
win.
If
we
ever
lose
anything
on.
You
know
overstream
Investments,
so
we
could.
We
could
look
it
up.
Also,
that
tries
to
provide
a
better
return
on
the
funds
we
invest.
A
You
know
the
funds
we
have
an
account,
there's
an
advantage
to
keeping
them
attacking
stress,
speed
in
one
kind
of
organization
in
One
Source,
because
we
can
transfer
between
fundses.
We
need
it's
much
more
easy
to
manage,
because
we've
thought
about
other
in
Prior
years
like
should
we
I
know
some
of
them
and
continue.
A
Should
we
have
some
at
afcu
and
spread
it
around
the
community,
but
it
does
create
extra
administrative
burden
to
manage
more
accounts
and
Banks
when
you
for
organizations
like
ours
require
authorized
signatures
to
be
on
the
account-
and
that
is
a.
C
B
It's
just
I
understand
yeah,
so
those
are
kind.
A
Of
considerations
we
looked
at
and
you
know
if
we
had
more
money
and
I,
think
that
would
be
something
we
want
to
look
at
we're
certain.
You
could
probably
do
a
little
bit
better,
but
we'd
have
to
figure
out
what
is
that
right
level?
Would
it
be
a
a
CD?
Would
it
be
something
different?
You
know.
B
B
So
there's
another
resolution:
yes,
there
is
Page
44.
and-
and
this
is
to
approve
the
budget
court
and
Report
procurement
report
investment
report
from
the
certified
financial
office.
A
The
procurement
report
does
have
two
properties
that
were
sold
this
year,
which
we
report
on
we're
both
Cherry
Street
Industrial,
Park
Parcels
that
were
built
and
developed.
So
we
had
entered
into
agreements
with
Precision
filters
at
the
very
end
of
Cherry
Street,
240,
Cherry,
Street
and
evaporative
mental
films
239
the
largest
building
out
there,
with
the
mirror
kind
of
walls
on
it
and
those
were
entered
into
as
lease
purchase
agreements
so
that
after
20
years
they
had
the
rights
to
acquire
those
properties
and
they
both
exercised
those
rights.
A
This
last
year
to
acquire
the
properties
our
requirement
was
they
had
to
build
a
building
on
the
vacant
lab
that
was
sold
to
them
and
create
jobs.
They
both
accomplished
that
and
then,
after
that,
they
had
they
kind
of
structured.
These
things
without
thinking
how
they
would
roll
out
is,
they
could
continue
to
pay
a
dollar
a
year.
A
After
the
20-year
lease
agreement
was
up
which
didn't
provide
them
with
much
incentive
to
acquire
them,
but
finally,
they
just
they
both
decided
to
acquire
this
year
at
the
assess
the
value
of
the
parcels
back
in
1988,
so
they
were
39
000
and
36
000
sales
of
those
of
the
land
value
in
those
prices.
Those
are
the
two
major
procurement
changes.
B
All
right
and
now
we're
moving
on
to
the.
There
must
be
another
resolution
file,
Contracting
officer,
Property
Disposition.
Can
you
commit
page
for
that
because
I'm
age,
95.
C
A
Which
I
asked
last
year
they
referenced
this
earlier
this
one
is
they
asked
this
question?
Well,
who's
your
Contracting
officer
for
compliance
with
Property
Disposition
requirements.
I
didn't
see
a
record
where
we
have
anybody.
That's
been
designated
in
Prior
years.
This
is
not
a
new
change.
We
just
always
answer
this.
No.
B
A
I'd
like
to
answer
it:
yes
in
the
future
to
be
in
compliance-
and
essentially
this
proposed
resolution
does
two
things:
it
designates
a
Contracting
officer
for
property
dispositions
and,
secondly,
it
establishes
a
little
bit
of
a
guideline
framework
for
Property
Disposition
guidelines
for
the
agency,
we're
already
under
a
number
of
General
Municipal
framework
is
for
how
the
IRA
can
sell
property
generally,
every
public
can
benefit,
Corporation
can
sell
property
for
fair
market
value
or
what
they
sometimes
refer
to
as
the
highest
marketable
value,
and
that's
done
through
auction
or
sealed
bid
on
kind
of
process.
A
C
A
Has
a
special
authority
to
negotiate
sales
price?
So
when
we
do
it
an
urban
renewal
project,
we
can
negotiate
for
elements
to
be
incorporated
in
the
project
like
you
must
provide
affordable
housing.
You
must,
you
know,
pay
living
wage,
those
kind
of
things
in
lieu
of
getting
a
fair
market
value
of
their
property
or
even
asking
what
the
fair
market
you
know,
or
even
appraising
the
value.
So
that's
already
governed
by
urban
renewal
law,
but
there's
also
additional
requirements
in
public
authorities.
A
Law
that
says,
if
you
do
a
negotiated
sale,
you
have
to
90
days
in
advance
of
that
transaction
occurring,
notify
the
Authority's
budget
office,
the
pal
police.
So
to
speak
about
your
negotiated,
your
proposed
negotiated
transaction
and
explain
why
you're
doing
it
as
a
negotiation
interesting
enough.
They
have
and
waive
this
requirement
for
land
banks
in
the
state
of
New
York,
because.
C
A
Banks,
like
our
uas,
are
always
buying
proper.
You
know
getting
a
collecting
property
and
trying
to
find
a
buyer
to
redevelop,
so
they
don't
have
to
report
this,
but
urban
renewal
agencies
do
because
we-
and
in
some
respects
we
do
similar
things-
we're
not
looking
for
the
highest
purchase
price,
we're
looking
for
public
benefit,
measured
by
dollars
and
benefits
in
the
community.
So
it's
applies
to
leases
as
well
as
sales
and.
B
A
More
property
value,
fifteen
thousand
dollar
or
more
at
least
Revenue
per
year,
so
this
is
established
proposed
resolution
establishes
the
director
of
Community
Development
me
as
the
Contracting
officer,
but
ex-officio.
So
whoever's
in
the
seat
would
be
the
contract
officer
for
this,
and
it's
saying
that
the
guidelines
for
disposition
going
forward
by
the
IRA
will
be
compliance
with
the
multiple
laws
that
apply
the
urban
renewal
laws,
as
well
as
the
pal
District
Property
Disposition
law,
and
it
identifies
that
we're
balancing
objectives
between
union,
fair
market
value
and
our
mission
of
urban
renewal.
B
B
A
B
A
Packet,
you
should
find
the
movement
through
this
IU
is
recommended
2023
action
plan.
That
is
going
to
be
familiar
with
this,
because
this
should
reflect
the
work
of
the
agency
if
they're
March
23rd
meeting,
and
so
you
can
see
the
listed
projects
that
are
recommended
for
funding.
A
This
will
go
to
the
common
Council
for
their
public
hearing
and
common
Council
action
for
the
June
meeting
division
of
the
third
movie.
Maybe-
and
you
can
see-
there's
a
variety
you
know:
we've,
the
the
action
plan
includes
funding
and
all
the
categories
of
Eligibility
housing,
ad
Public
Services.
C
A
Did
not
actually
fund
any
activities
in
public
facilities
in
this
year
there
was
one
proposal
for
a
sidewalk
extension
and
Cecil
Malone,
but
it
was
250
000,
and
that
was
a
tough
project
that
fit
into
the
action
plan
that
had
a
lot
of
other
projects
that
were
competing
against
it.
A
So
I
don't
know
if
anybody
wanted
to
that.
I
should
note
that
the
first
one,
the
beacon,
is
the
NHS
Housing
project
for
close
to
Inland
Island.
When
we
list
Hodag
there,
it
means
it's
not
going
to
be
in
the
action
plan
funding,
but
there's
a
commitment
for
funding
from
odag
as
a
loan
commitment
that
should
their
application
to
the
state
be
approved
next
year.
The
agency
will
either
have
to
continue
with
the
Hodag
loan
or
make
a
grandchild
we'll
scene
through
the
next
year's
homework,
cdpg
funding
application.
A
But
yeah
we,
we
usually
provide
another
similar
chart.
That
says
the
funny
requests
just
by
themselves,
so
people
can
see
which
projects
did
not
get
funded,
but
there
were
only
four
projects:
I
think
that
were
submitted
that
didn't
receive
funding.
There
was
a
lot
of
scaling
of
funding
and
outside
of
the
housing
category
foreign.
A
This
year,
looked
at
the
job
training
placement
programs
a
little
bit
with
a
little
more
scrutiny
to
me,
because
they
many
of
them
had
funds
that
were
still
rolling
over
from
prior
years
yeah,
and
so
they
were
all
scaled
back
and
with
the
goal
of
saying,
we
think
this.
This
is
funding
sufficient
to
continue
the
program
in
the
next
year,
but
we're
not
interested
in
funding
them
for
18
months.
You
know
when
it's
a
12-month
program,
so
I
think
that
was
one
in
Trend
we
saw.
A
It's
always
the
public
service
category
was
fully
funded
at
the
cap
with
15,
and
it's
always
there
were
a
lot
of
efforts
to
try
to
figure
out.
If
you
know
between
the
public
service
activities,
how
could
there
be
more
funding
for
those
activities
or
which
ones
should
get
priority,
so
yeah
I?
Think
I,
don't
think
there
was
I.
A
Think
I
think
if
there's
a
trend,
I
think
we
were
fortunate
to
have
a
lot
of
strong
housing
applications
this
year
and
then
it's
probably
with
some
homeowner
affordable,
homeowner
ownership
projects,
both
by
habitat
and
inhs,
and
those
are
hard
hard
to
figure
out
and
hard
to
bring
to
completion,
because
most
of
the
grant
programs
at
the
state
and
federal
level
are
for
rental
housing
that
for
for
sale,
houses.
B
A
B
Yeah
and
the
tax
credit
thing:
are
they
the
tax
credit
projects.
B
A
Still
kind
of
at
that
level
we're
in
each
round
we're
apportionate
if
there's
one
in
Hopkins
County,
there's
a
lot
of
chocolate
at
the
federal
industry
level
about
expanding
that
tax
credit
program,
but
I'm
not
sure
it's
actually
happened
yet.
A
So
it's
still
highly
considers
a
nine
percent
tax
credit,
which
is
the
one
that
here
we
provide
70
of
the
development
costs
as
a
subsidy
when,
when
there's
the
four
percent
tax
credit
project,
that
is
by
right,
you
don't
have
to
compete
for
it,
but
it
only
provides
30
of
the
project
crosses
as
a
subsidy,
and
that
program
is
still
there's
plenty
of
funds
available
for
the
four
percent
tax
credit.
That's
never
been
fully
expected
because
it's
it's
more
difficult
to
make
an
affordable
housing
project.
A
It
doesn't
generate
a
lot
of
Revenue,
financially
and
slow
for
that
and
to
do
those
projects.
Typically,
the
state
says
you
need
100
units
or
more,
which
is
hard
to
fit
into
a
small
into
a
neighborhood.
For
example,
you
can
split
them
into
two
personals
in
theory
that
you
could,
but
that
also
makes
it
more
complicated
too
as
well
so
we're.
You
know
we're
waiting
for
the
next
round
to
be
the
cry
around
to
be
announced.
A
The
most
recent
round
that
around
tax
credit
projects
for
funding
in
Thomas,
County,
funded
inhs's
project
in
Trumansburg
and
one
up
in,
can
do
that
or
whatever
I'm
north
of
the
lake
it's
just
Timeless
County
I
mean
inhs,
is
now
a
five.
B
A
And
focused
organization,
the
one
we're
waiting
for
in
the
next
three
weeks
is
to
see
where
the
only
one
we
have
in
the
city.
That's
in
that
Hopper
this
time
as
an
application
is
the
one
on
West
State
Street
for
500
block
of
West
State
Street
next
to
Franco's
and
wrapping
around
the
corner
wouldn't
face
the
new
project
of
Iron
Iron.
A
B
A
Rochester,
for
whatever
reason,
has
a
large
ecosystem
housing
developers
and
they
have
to
slowly
kind
of
figured
out
that
another
one
that
they
can
explore
is
County,
so
we're
seeing
another
one
of
our.
My
understanding
is
one
of
those
Snapper
profits
is
negotiating
to
purchase
the
parcel
at
the
corner
of
West,
Seneca
and
metal.
So
if
there's
a
large
green
space
there
with
a
big
tree,
a
couple
trees,
yeah
I.
A
A
A
C
A
A
A
The
legendary
designated
for
five-story
development,
as
well
so
still
available,
but.
A
Works,
my
understanding
is
that
you
need
a
Act
of
the
state
to
the
park.
Land
I
need
to
call
it
alienation,
Park
alienation,
and
so
you
need
an
act
of
the
legislature
to
remove
Parkland
from
its
Parkland
status
they
can
and
the
normal
standard
is.
You
have
to
replace
it
with
equal.
C
C
A
A
C
A
A
Yeah
the
whole
American
Rescue
plan
funding
was
that
1.2
million
dollars
one-time
award
in
the
city
intended
to
the
U.S,
unsheltered,
homelessness
and
and
housing
and
stable
households
are
the
best
use
those
funds
but
required
an
extensive
home
allocation
plan
to
be
submitted,
which
establishes
the
framework
for
how
the
community
proposes
to
use
it.
The
IRA
adapted
this
home
allocation
plan
and
it's
in
March
meeting,
but
it
also
requires
economy,
Council
approval.
A
Essentially,
what
is
being
recommended
here
is
that
the
funding
the
earmarked
to
address
two
major
needs
in
our
homeless
response
system,
one
is
to
help
people
get
from
being
homeless
to
a
to
housing
through
rental
assistance
and
the
other
one
and
support
services,
and
the
other
one
is
to
address
the
issue
of
people
who
are
secure
housing,
but
don't
have
support
services,
and
then
they
return
to
homelessness
and
we've
seen
a
pretty
high
rate
of
that
for
people
who
don't
have
access
to
support
services
if
they've
been
homeless.
A
C
A
C
Have
a
question,
so
you
use
them
with
all
current
services
to
what
extent
light
being
able
to
stay
in
the
housing
be
contingent
on
using
the
services
I
mean.
Is
it
voluntary
whether
or
not
a
client
uses
the
services?
Yes,
it.
B
There
really
aren't
staff
was
just
really
dedicated
to
helping
people
staying
in
their
housing,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
the
plan
brought
up
said
when
you
did,
because
you
know
just
basic
things
like
you
know,
rules
you
know
living
with
neighbors
things
like
that.
That's
kind
of
the
there's,
some
staff
that
can
you.
B
Base
occasionally
that
not
established
really
dedicated
to
doing
that
and
that's
then
identified
as
a
big
gap
and
services
right.
So
a
lot
of
the
support
services.
B
B
B
It's
hard,
you
know
Transportation
issues,
then
it's
and
lots
of
times
the
people
who
are
in
the
housing
don't
really
think
of
themselves
as
needing
possibly
Mental,
Health
Services
or
you
know,
Addiction
Services
want.
A
To
do
that,
so
it's,
but
it
also
mandated
Services
they're
not
going
to
get
anything
out
of
that
either.
If
they're,
you
know,
if
I
have
to
show
up
there,
yeah
reluctantly
going
in
an
appointment,
I
have
no
interest
in
in
engaging
with.
You
know
the
support
service
caseworker,
that's
not
going
to
be
very
successful,
but
but
there
are
people
who
people
from
the
outside
say
that
person
would
benefit
greatly
for
more
supportive.
A
To
do
it,
there's
certainly
are
cases
like
that
and
you
just
with
the
housing
first
model.
Is
you
provide
them
with
stable
housing?
So
they
don't
have
to
worry
about
that
issue.
You
offer
them
the
support
services
that
they're
right,
that
you
think
they
will
accept
when
they're
ready
for
it
and
that's
the
model
that
has
has
been
effective.
More
often
than
many
other
approaches,
I
mean
a
mandatory
approach.
You
end
up
with
safety
people.
A
A
I
should
have
mentioned,
I
thought
it
was
here
in
the
summary,
but
I
see
you
see
that
the
table
in
here
there
are
four
categories
available
funding
for
home
ARP.
It
can
be
for
non-congregate
shelter
services
like
buying
a
hotel
and
converting
it
to
a
shelter,
tenant-based
rental
assistance
like
a
Section,
8
housing
program,
affordable
rental,
Housing,
Development,
like
construction
of
rental,
housing
targeted
to
eligible
homeless
populations
or
for
the
Supportive
Services
Supportive
Services
can
include
both
rental
assistance
and
case
management
and
supportive
services
and
so
forth.
A
This
is
this
allocation,
but
it's
recommending
almost
all
the
money
to
go
into
that
into
that
category.
The
reason
why
development
of
affordable
rental
housing
wasn't
chosen
because
I
think
that
was
our
vision
initially
like,
of
course,
we'll
build
more
housing
with
this
money.
That's
what
we
would
probably
help
solve.
The
problem
is
that
1.2
million
dollars
doesn't
go
very
far
when
you're
trying
to
build
rental
housing,
especially
when
it's
where
people
have
very
little
income.
A
So
you
don't
have
you
know
you
also
have
to
make
it
feasible
for
them
to
be
able
to
live
in
that
in
that
project
we
figured
you
could
maybe
do
four
units.
You
know
with
that
money
and
you'd
have
to
find
a
partner
to
partner
with
so
the
view
was
it'd
be
more
impactful
to
take
this
other
approach
of
Housing
search,
support
to
or
rental
assistance
report.
So
the
idea
of
rental
assistance
is
you
provide
rental
assistance
for
a
year
or
two,
and
then
they
transition
to
the
housing
Choice
voucher.
A
So
we
get
on
the
waiting
list
and
then
they
have
that
source
of
rental
assistance
going
forward
from
from
an
ongoing
funding
source.
So.
B
That's
the
strategy,
so
you,
this
is
how
you
propose
to
use
the
money
you
haven't.
Actually
we.
A
Well,
apparently,
Floyd
has
is
in
the
process
of
issuing
implementation
regulations.
So
we
already
have
the
allocation
plan
regulations
now
we're
going
to
have
implementation
regulations,
we're
hopeful
that
we
can
have
something
this
this
this
summer.
You
know
that
access
to
some
money
and
work
on
a
you
know
have
the
resources
available
for
a
Housing
search.
You
know
before
cold
weather
policy
starts
in
November,
right,
I,
don't
think
it
was
going
to
be
before
June
or
July,
and
that's
probably
earliest
so.
A
So
the
we
did
have
to
designate.
How
are
you
going
to
use?
How
are
you
going
to?
How
are
you
going
to
implement
the
program?
Essentially
in
a
framework
we
looked
at
a
number
of
other
communities
and
what
they
said,
and
most
of
them
were
very
kept
their
options
open.
So
we
did
the
same
thing
because
we
could
do
it
the
way
we
do
our
action
plan
and
say
come
forward
no
funding,
availability
and
we'll
look
at
all
yours.
A
We
can
bring
up
your
committees
and
recommend
it,
but
essentially
working
for
an
agency
that
can
do
rental
assistance
and
Supportive
Services.
There
aren't
that
in
any
agencies
that
can
do
that
and
do
it
well
at
a
scale
of
doing
it.
So
we
think
it's
more
likely
that
we
would
do
some
sort
of
a
letter
of
interest.
You
know
ask
for
people
to
indicate
a
letter
of
interest
and
then
move
into
negotiations
with
ones
that
are
our
most
highly
qualified
to
do
it.
A
A
One,
who
really
does
it
too
right
right?
So
it's
not
anything.
It's
not
a
big
field.
There
I
mean
practice.
Community
Action
is
one
that's
doing
that
kind
of
services.
Now
some
level
but
they're
not
screaming
they're,
not
they're,
not
doing
kind
of
based
ring
or
they're
doing
rental
assistance
at
that
level,
they're
into
security
assistance
and
not
being
supportive
services
in
a.
A
We
know
a
lot
of
organizations,
argue
they're
doing
Supportive
Services,
so
that's
yeah,
so
we'll
see
where
it
goes.
Okay,
that's
good
and
yeah.
So
if
anybody
I
think
there
was
a
link
on
the
agenda,
there's
a
full
61
page
report.
If
you
want
to
dive
in
a
little
deeper
into
this
question,.
B
Now
we're
down
to
other
old
business
correct.
Does
that
miss
anything
in
that
there's
an
infection,
the
financial
review
you
should.
A
Have
a
grant
yeah
a
loan
summary
and
a
lease
payment
report.
The
grant
summary
is
is
alert.
You
know,
we've
got
a
couple
of
agencies
that
are
behind
and
they're
expanded
out
where
we
list
in
the
left-hand
side.
You
know
no
versus
okay
in
terms
of
their
process.
Several
of
those
have
been
in
recent
discussions
with
the
neighborhood
investment
committee
and
are
working
through
their
issues.
A
So
I
think
you
know,
the
pharmacy
market
I
think
we're
at
we're.
Okay,
now
we've
got
the
final
voucher
for
them.
For
that
project
done,
providing
discounts
to
snap
customers
for
remote
purchases,
Urban
bus,
stop,
upgrade
project
lights
and
the
bus
stops
at
10
or
12
bus
stops
was
delayed
by
a
staff
change
at
tcat
and
supply
chain
issues,
but
they
just
met
with
the
neighborhood
investment
committee
this
week
and
they
approved
the
short
extension
into
September
on
that
project
and
the
Immigrant
Services
Program.
A
They
had
some
change
in
some
of
their
Staffing
as
well
and
they
didn't
realize
they
had
money
on
on
account
from
the
2021
year
and
because
you
started
bonus
in
2022
and
we
said
well
why?
Why
aren't
you
holding
this
for
2021.?
So
that's
been
worked
out.
The
big
issue,
though,
at
the
very
bottom
of
that
series
of
information
on
page
129,
is.
B
A
An
annual
requirement
to
spend
on
community
level
block
grant
funds
at
a
certain
rate.
Basically,
it
assumes
that
we
should
have
no
more
unspent
funds
than
we
have
than
we
spend
150
percent
of
our
most
recent
award
and
they
do
a
snapshot
check
at
the
end
of
May
each
year.
So
we
we
keep
track
of
that
every
month
and
and
we're
110
000
behind
on
that.
A
As
of
March
I'm,
not
sure
we're
going
to
make
that
number
to
keep
that
spin
down
requirement,
and
if
we
don't
make
it
what
HUD
will
do
is
they
will
require
us
to
do
a
workout
plan
to
say
how
we
can
do
in
the
future
years.
A
One
of
those
responses,
I'm
going
to
say,
is
we're
not
funding
the
job,
creating
placement
programs,
the
same
level
we
have
in
Prior
years,
because
we're
not
funding
them
at
the
rate
that
they
actually
spend
the
funds
and
if
we
continue
for
several
years
with
that,
they
can
lower
our
grant
amount
by
the
amount
that
we're
not
meeting
our
requirement.
I.
Think
it's
a
little
bit
of
an
unfair
requirement.
The
estate
service
states
do
this
at
their
state
level
and
they're
all
like
250
percent
of
them,
but
we
have
to
meet
150.
A
and
secondly,
if
we
want
to
have
any
money
in
our
Loan
Fund
available
to
make
real
estate
businesses
that
counts
as
dead
money,
it's
sitting
as
money
available,
they
used
to
exempt
revolving
Loan
Fund
money.
They
don't
anymore
so
for
a
small
community
that
only
gets
670
000
a
year
if
you've
got
a
hundred
thousand
sitting
in
a
in
a
loan
account
waiting
for
a
loan
application
that
Siri
already
you're
already
15
behind
here
right,
so
I
think
we
might
just
barely
make
it.
This
year
we
were
on
target
with
the
giac.
A
The
giac
gym
project
has
a
hundred
hundred
thousand
dollar
award
from
us.
If
we
can
process
that
payments
and
we'll
probably
make
it
if
we
don't
get
that
price
the
payment
process,
we
probably
won't
make
it
as
simple
as
that
employee,
but.
B
A
Recognize
that
in
the
pandemic
a
lot
of
communities
have
fallen
behind
because
agencies
weren't
able
to
deliver
programs
that
required
face-to-face
activity.
You
know
for
many
women,
so
they
have
a
special
rule
this
year.
If
you
don't
meet
it,
we
have
one
year
we
have
a
workout
plan
and
have
to
meet
it
in
the
following
year.
Okay,
I,
don't
know
if
they
would
extend
that
again.
You
know
beyond
that,
but
that's
the
framework,
so
we
wouldn't
be
impacted
maturely
until
2024.
Here.
A
Trying
to
spend
them
down,
it's
possibly
are
so.
B
A
Right
but
they
utilize
their
Community
their
seat.
Let
me
share
which
one
I'm
looking
at
here.
B
And
I
I
need
to
bring
it
out
that
somebody
go
back
to
oh
yeah.
It's
basically
CV
funding.
The
cdgb
is
created.
Positive
Delivery
Systems
is
only
25
percent
for
2021,
yes
and
I.
Usually
you
know
I
just
wondered
if
it
was
because
there
was
so
much
money.
A
We've
been
receiving
quite
a
few
lately
and
a
lot
of
when
Founders
way
opened
up.
There
was
a
lot
of
new
new
applications.
People
are
finally
able
to
move
right
and
Asteria
is
planned
to
open
in
the
first
quarter
of
2024.
We
expect
there'll,
be
a
lot
of
folks
will
be
eligible
for.
B
B
A
Well,
you're
gonna
have
to
go.
We
realized
that
that
does
not
comply
with
whom's
home
regulations.
Home
regulations
don't
allow
Master
leases
by
not-for-profits.
They
only
require
only
allow
at
least
between
a
landlord
and
a
tenant,
and
then
that
tenant
then
has
all
the
rights
of
account.
C
A
Keep
the
housing
so
home
is
not
a
great
funding
source
for
that
program
and
the
youth
homeless
demonstration
Project
funding
that
was
awarded
to
Tompkins
County
a
year
and
a
half
ago
is
a
better
tool
for
that,
because
it
does
explicitly
allow
Master
leasing
yeah,
so
we've
been
in
the
process
of
working
with
learning
web
to
transition
from
the
master
release
model
to
have
each
of
their
clients
execute,
at
least
with
the
landlord
and
then
have
learning
web
like
like
parents
do
for
college
students
guarantee
that
at
least
they've
been
very
slow
in
making
that
transition.
A
We
talked
to
them
back
in
June
and
July
they're
now
working
on
their
first
transition
here
in
April,
and
we
don't.
We
have
not
seen
evidence
that
that
they
have
successfully
accomplished
that
with
other
language
they
have,
or
three
or
four
different
language
they're
working
with,
because
a
landlord
used
to
think
well.
I've
got
my
least
learning
web
I'm,
okay
to
get
paid,
and
if
there
are
any
issues
you
know,
okay,
NASA
will
change
to
modify.
A
Learning
web
will
still
play
that
role,
but
it's
it's
there's
a
legal
agreement,
that's
different
now,
because
it's
actually
the
tenant
who's
at
least
make
control
learning
web
to
you
know,
I,
don't
want
to
talk
to
you
anymore
right,
the
learning
web's
still
paying
for
you
they're
still
guaranteeing
the
lease
right.
So
there
is
it's
a
different
framework
and-
and
there
has
been
staff
changed
with
many
different.
A
B
A
A
They've
been
a
lot
of
turnover
there,
spending
Rocky
transition
for
me,
I
think
so,
but
so
they're
we're
working
through
we've
just
approved
the
first
culture,
which
is
for
like
nine
months
of
rent.
You
know
kind
of
thing,
because
these
rent,
these
leases
were
saying
back
in
2022.
A
The
Loan
program
looks
good
and
the
lease
repayment
will
work
as
I
speak
today.
Looks
good
I
think
we're
showing
some
red
lines
on
those
net
courts
at
that
time,
but
they
both
they've,
all
been
worked.
A
Well,
they're
going
to
go
by
by
personal
best
Brewing,
but
the
legal
name
of
the
of
the
energy
is
Sons
of
Susan
LLC,
okay,
so
yeah
it
makes
sense
they're
supposed
to
open
up
this
month,
we'll
see
it's
been
a
long
road
for
them.
They've
run
into
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
obstacles
that
have
slowed
them
down,
but
they're
supposed
to
open
up.
So
it's
a
very
impressive
facility
inside
it.
A
Yeah
with
the
Withrow
Beer
Garden
on
the
side,
see
it
all
works
out.
Mm-Hmm.
A
The
big
issue
with
ribs
right
now
is
that
their
lease
is
expiring
after
15
years.
They
have
to
decide
if
they
want
to
go
for
a
renewal
for
that
they'll
be
at
530,
West,
Buffalo
Street.
A
We
also
understand
from
the
city
that
the
pump
station,
where
you've,
seen
that
mobile
pumper
there
with
the
hose
out
in
front
of
that
building
almost
to
like
50
of
the
time
they're
working
to
replace
that
pump
station,
so
that
that
physical
replacement
may
impact
the
site
so
we're
trying
to
we're
getting
together,
accessory
Community,
Center,
Water
and
Sewer
division
to
meet
and
look
at
some
design
proposals
and
see
if
there's
something
that
can
be
a
win-win
for
both
interviews,
but
that
that
pump
station
is
in
need
of
upgrade
and
replacement.
A
B
A
Thing
I
wanted
to
mention.
The
staff
report
is
that
Charles
Pratt
is
relocating
from
Indica
to
Buffalo
yeah
and
you
guys
agreed
to
continue
to
work
remotely
for
new
agency.
A
A
But
I
just
agreed
to
continue
working
for
the
agency
in
this
current
capacity,
but
we'll
make
a
few
adjustments.
You
know
in
terms
of
in-person
issues,
sure,
but
it's
you
know
it's.
You
know
a
lot
of
employer.
A
lot
of
organizations
are
now
going
quite
a
few
remote
employees,
my
NHS,
when
I
talked
to
Johanna
I,
said
more
than
half
of
the
new
employees.
Where
are
we
going
when
they
were
like
working
for
a
real
estate
development
kind
of
categories?
So
we're
hoping
we
can
do
the
same?
A
Other
thing
is
just
to
note
that
the
city
is
continuing
to
work
on
its
policy
for
encampments
on
city
land
and
what
should
be
the
right
policy
approach,
a
lot
of
fits
and
starts,
and
one
step
forward,
two
steps
back
or
maybe
it's
the
other
way.
A
There
was
a
working
group
that
I
was
a
member
of
that
devised,
a
a
pilot
draft
for
coming
we've
gotten
200,
different
comments
and
by
going
to
consultation
with
different
entities
and
people
in
the
city,
Outreach
workers
and
others,
and
it's
you
know
it's
a
hard
issue
to
discuss
and
get
comments
on,
because
discussions
quickly,
morph
into
you
know:
how
do
you
solve
homelessness
or
how
do
you
manage
homelessness?
Or
you
know?
A
What
should
we
do
when
when
the
cities
original
position
is
like,
we
have
certain
city
lands
that
are
used
brain
candidates
and
it's
a
very
narrow.
You
know
in
some
ways
it's
a
narrow,
Land
Management
policy,
but
you
can't
really
look
at
it
narrowly
because
it's
a
huge
social
issue
and
what
we
do.
A
land
policy
impacts,
whether
it's
going
to
help
or
hurt
him
that
process
of
moving
people
from
homelessness,
the
housing
but
they're
also
are
externalities
of
enhancements
to
enabling
areas
as
well.
A
So
starting
to
balance
those
issues
out
and
I
think
we've
established.
We
have
a
draft
policy
where
pleases
and
nobody
in
any
way
go
with
it.
I
suspect,
that's
where
it's
going
to
go
and
we'll
see,
but
and
even
among
the
committee
members
there's
not
you
know,
that's
nearly
agreement,
so
that
also
makes
it
difficult
to
bring
forward
something
when
you
can't
get
it
out
of
committee.
So
to
speak,
a
lot
of
discussion
and
debates
so
we'll
see
where
that
goes.
A
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
continuing
discussion
and
the
city
clearly
views
that
it's
a
pilot
process
to
learn
what
what
try
something,
because
we
haven't
tried
much
in
the
past
and
learn
from
that
and
I'll
try
to
adjust
and
continue
to
do
things
like
home
Erp
to
help
organizations
that
are
solving
to
try
and
solve
the
core
problem.
A
Giving
people
in
the
housing
because
and
the
census
at
the
shelter
in
March
had
the
highest
numbers
ever
that
I
know
of
250
people
in
the
cold
weather
policy
program
of
which
maybe
a
hundred
qualify
for
the
year-round
kind
of
program
where
you
have
to
qualify
through
DSS
and
cold
weather.
You
just
have
to
present
that
you
don't
have
a
center
stupid
place
and
they
have
to
graduate
some
some
place
to
go
so
there's
a
concern
that
the
numbers
are
quite
a
bit
higher
than
they
have
been
in
Prior
years.
How
does
that
impact?
A
Going
to
be,
you
know,
liquid
and
city
property,
there's
a
there's,
a
legal
framework
called
Boise
versus
lazy
versus
American.
You
know
out
in
Boise,
a
federal
judge
ruled
that
if
there
are
no
beds
available
for
in
shelters
for
people,
communities
cannot
outlaw
champion
on
public
property
every
time.
A
In
other
words,
you
know
you
have
to
allow
somebody
to
sleep
somewhere
if
they
don't
have
a
bed
available
to
them,
and
so
that
framework
has
to
be
considered
in
terms
of
the
city
policy
Although,
our
shelter
does
have,
can
expand
and
Shrink
with
overflow
at
hotels,
but
there
are
always
people
who
are
sanctioned,
who
are
not
authorized
to
get
into
that
program,
and
there
are
those
who
are
under
sexual
Federalists
who
are
not
eligible
for
other
other
housings.
A
They
are
eligible
to
get
into
shelter,
they're,
not
not
other
permanent,
so
essentially,
I
think
they
said
you
need
to
speak
some
places
available
where
people
can
count
on
city
property
until
we
can
provide
an
alternative.
A
That
would
be
one
way
of
reading
that
legally
legal.
Soon,.
C
A
Change
care
is
tracks
the
number
of
people
coming
into
the
system
and
finding
housing.
They
have
a
project
right
now
to
try
to
answer
that
question
by
doing
deeper
research
in
the
numbers.
The
data
is
never
perfect
on
that,
though
it's
hard
to
figure
out,
people
are
asked
where,
where
are
you
coming
from,
so
to
speak
like
where
were
you
living?
Where
were
you
before
you
came
here?
Not
not.
Every
intake
gets
an
answer
to
that
question
or
an
answer.
That's
useful
or
attracted
correctly.
C
A
Just
recently
moved
to
campus
County
they're
part
of
this
community,
but
they're
not
just
traveling
through,
but
you
know
there
there's
probably
some
I
mean
there's
probably.
B
B
A
Doesn't
seem
to
be
so
what
we've
heard
from
the
community
of
care
data
Keepers
is
that
other
counties
around
us
have
experienced
a
similar
uptick
of
picking
the
numbers.
So
it's
it.
Doesn't
it's
not
like
elmira's
going
down,
but
everything
is
going
up.
It's
it's
like
they're,
all
kind
of
going
up
after
the
pandemic,
but
but
they're
going
to
try
to
do
a
little
more
deeper
research
on
that
question
because
they
want
to.
A
They
say
they
get
that
question
on
a
regular
basis
and
they
want
to
be
able
to
answer
the
best
that
you
can
with
that.
When
you
have
a
surgeon,
a
bunch
of
people
coming
in
at
one
time
for
overnight
stays
in
the
shelter
you
don't
always
get
great
data
and
that's
been
one
of
the
challenges
so
St
John's,
Community
Services
manages
the
shelter
and
they
have
initiated
a
more
a
stronger
emphasis
on
better
data
collection
and
that
could
help
give.
A
Who's
managing
the
shelter
St
John's,
Community
Services,
also
who's
a
person
yeah,
okay,
so
no
longer
the
manager
right
there,
their
their
Statewide
director
of
Virginia
is
is
managing,
is
taking
a
place
on
an
interim
basis,
so
she's
based
in
Virginia
and
my
understanding
is
that
that's
their
model
at
the
moment
for
management
and
vladi
Joe
is
back
from.
Is
she
politics?
She
came
back
from
Florida
she's
back
at
the
shelter
and
I'm
told
that
there's
another
person
there
I,
don't
remember
the
name.
Who's
very,
very
well
respected
is
doing
the
work
there.
A
It
was
just
scope
a
letter,
but
I
can't
remember
her
name.
Kate
might
be
Kate,
you
say
they
say.
Like
you
said,
you
said
anything.
My.
B
A
Gonna
need
some
yeah
and
you
saw
in
the
action
plan
that
St
John's
is
acquiring
the
group
home
for
two-step
Albany
Street
that
was
owned
by
Lakeview
when
they're
trying
to
convert
that
into
what
I
think
they
call
it
a
sober
home.
It's
for
people
coming
out
of
out
of
kind
of
a
detox
program,
it's
a
halfway
house
and
they
were
trying
to
set
that
up
corner
of
South
Albany
and
Center
Street,
which
was
well
that's
nice,
because
I
did
find
us
yeah.
B
I
I
drink,
buy
it
it's
beautiful,
it's
beautiful.
So
it
sounds
like
a
weird
word,
but
where
is
it
it's
on
trip
camera
across
kind
of.
B
B
B
So
meeting.
B
A
A
C
C
C
A
B
Okay,
it's
not
we'll
just
join
the
meeting
at
9,
45
44
great
great
license.
It
is
outside.