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A
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
taking
some
time
out
of
a
really
beautiful
and
sublime
thursday
evening
to
to
spend
with
us,
I'm
eric
rosario
co-lead
for
the
working
group
focused
on
recommendation
number
one,
which
is
to
design
a
new
department
of
public
safety
for
the
city
of
ithaca
and
I'm
also
joined
and
you'll,
be
hearing
from
co-lead
karen
yearwood,
also
like
myself,
long
time,
ithacan
and
really
really
happy
to
be
here
with
you
all,
and
so
our
plan
is
to
provide
a
brief
update
on
our
progress
as
a
working
group
and
then
to
use
the
bulk
of
our
time
together
tonight
for
questions
and
answers.
B
So
one
principle
that
we
follow
or
one
one
promise
we
we
tend.
We
keep
within
the
working
group,
is
to
start
on
time
and
end
on
time,
and
we
want
to
be
mindful
and
respectful
of
everyone's
time.
Who's
joined
us
here
tonight
as
well.
So
without
much
further
ado,
I
will
hand
it
over
to
karen
to
get
us
started.
C
But
carrying
out
this
task
of
redesigning
reimagining,
not
replacing.
We
have
several
recommendations
and
we're
looking
to
create
a
new
model
of
public
safety
and-
and
this
is
part
of
a
joint
recommendation
with
16
other
recommendations.
C
So
some
may
ask
about
new
york
state
executive
order,
203.
It
was
given
by
governor
cuomo
in
2020,
and
this
is
an
excerpt
of
it.
It's
very
lengthy,
but
the
document
is
about
two
pages
long,
but
whereas
there
is
a
long
and
painful
history
in
new
york,
state
of
discrimination
and
mistreatment
of
black
and
african
american
citizens
dating
back
to
the
arrival
of
the
first
enslaved
africans
in
america,
whereas
government
has
a
responsibility
to
ensure
that
all
of
its
citizens
are
treated
equally
fairly
and
justly
before
the
law.
C
Therefore,
the
governor
extended
an
invitation
to
all
municipalities
to
convene
local
police
agencies,
stakeholders
in
the
community
to
develop
a
plan,
and
such
a
plan
was
developed
and
it
was
voted
on
by
common
council
unanimously
to
create
a
new
department
tentatively
named
the
department
of
public
safety.
This
is
a
tentative.
It's
a
placeholder,
there's
been
no
naming
of
this
department
as
of
yet
and
which
may
be
led
by
a
civilian
to
manage
various
public
safety
functions
in
the
city
and
to
create
a
working
group
to
design
the
new
department.
B
Yes
and
to
just
dive
a
little
deeper
into
the
tentatively
titled
department
of
public
safety
that
the
working
group
is
tasked
with
with
designing
which
by
design,
would
include
the
naming
convention
for
it.
Finally
and
budget
estimates
and
role
definitions
looking
at
it
a
little
deeply.
I
won't
read
directly
from
this,
but
we
just
we
both
thought.
B
It
was
important
for
for
the
record
just
to
show
exactly
what
it
was
that
common
council
voted
on
and
what
it
is
that
the
working
group
is
working
on,
and
that's
that
this
tentatively
title
department
of
public
safety
will
include
a
unit
of
unarmed
first
responders
to
respond
to
certain
non-violent
call
types.
B
So
you
know
as
part
of
our
work
together
as
a
working
group,
we
did
review
the
history
of
policing
with
city
historian,
mary
tomlin,
and
while
this
is
historic
in
terms
of
including
a
unit
of
unarmed
first
responders
in
many
ways,
there
has
been
historic
precedence
dating
back
to
as
far
back
as
1913,
where
first
responders
were
hired,
usually
police
women
to
focus
on
on
non-violent
call
types.
B
So
there's
a
there's,
a
historical
thread
here
that
we're
still
continuing,
but
here
you
can
see
the
details
of
what
it
is,
that
we're
charged
with
figuring
out
how
to
operationalize
and
the
tentatively
titled
department
of
public
safety
will
also
include
a
unit
that
will
qualify
in
all
respects
as
police
officers.
So
I
think
a
police
and
that
they
will
continue
to
be
led
by
someone
who
will
qualify
as
a
chief
of
police.
B
So
the
new
department
will
be
overseen
by
civilian
director
and
you
can
see
what
we're
looking
for
in
terms
of
that
civilian
director
and
then
within
the
department.
There
is
the
unarmed
and
armed
unit,
and
so
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
enough
summary
at
this
at
this
stage.
But
we
wanted
to
be
sure
that
you
all
saw
in
writing
what
that
represented.
The
involved
parties,
as
karen
mentioned
earlier,
are
myself
and
karen
as
co-leads,
and
we
have
a
very
diverse
working
group
of
community
members.
Council,
police,
youth
students.
B
You
know
50
percent
close
to
fifty
percent
of
our
population
are
made
up
of
students,
and
we
have
three
on
the
committee
on
the
working
group
and
as
well
as
just
expanding
on
community
members,
representatives
of
the
black
brown
communities,
lgbtq
plus
and
others.
So
a
very
representative
group
going
you
know,
building
on
the
mandate
from
council
that
you
saw
earlier
in
terms
of
the
composition
of
that
working
group.
B
We
have
technical
advisors
that
we
consult
with
and
we'll
be
consulting
with
and
I'll,
we'll
be
talking
about
what
phase
we're
at
now.
But
technical
advisors
would
include
everyone
from
the
district
attorney.
The
current
police
chief,
acting
police
chief
sheriff
folks
from
the
county
working
mental
health,
a
very,
very
wide
scope
of
technical
advisors
to
fall
back
on,
discuss
as
well
as
a
very
strategic
partnership
with
the
center
for
police
inequity,
which
is
serving
as
a
project
manager
for
this
working
group.
B
B
So
in
policing
we,
this
is
very
centered
around
community
input
and
we
will
be-
and
we
are
always
seeking
community
input,
and
there
are
many
ways
and
we'll
we'll
talk
about
that
a
little
later.
But
as
we
as
we
continue
with
our
work,
we
have
identified
many
other
community
members
that
we're
inviting
to
join
us
to
bring
other
voices
that
may
be
missing
currently
and
so
that'll
be
very
critical.
Very
briefly,
you
know
just
to
start
off
the
beginning
of
any
work
is
the
most
important
part.
B
The
beginning
is
always
the
most
important
part
of
any
work,
and
we
spent
a
good
two
full
days
just
in
making
sure
that,
as
the
working
group,
that's
as
diverse
as
ours,
that
there
was
a
shared
set
of
expectations
that
we
could
hammer
out
together
and
live
by
that.
We
all
agreed
on
our
statement
of
work,
what
our
goals
were
and
as
part
of
that
too
included
what
you
see
here.
B
You
know
I
referenced
earlier
study
of
the
history
of
policing
in
ithaca,
really
more
of
a
presentation
of
a
presentation
of
his
historical
sketch
of
policing,
which
was
very
informative
and
where
we
are
now
after
with
that
strong
foundation
of
the
of
the
onboarding
and
then
moving
directly
right
into
our
work.
B
We
spent
the
time
together
in
august
and
september,
answering
that
question
and
and
that
question
was
what
role
should
our
armed
officers
and
the
proposed
unarmed
officers
have
in
this
new
in
this
new
department
and
to
do
that
we
have
to
start
by
looking
at
call
types,
and
so
you
know
I
have
to
admit
that
before
I
started
on
this,
I
had
some
vague
idea.
What
call
types
are
and
what
they
mean,
but
this
was
a
real
educational
process
and
a
very
very
enlightening
one.
B
So
there
are
almost
60
call
types
that
range
from
noise:
complaints
to
assault
and
from
intoxication
to
you
know
very
far,
more
serious
call
types
and
in
looking
at
all
of
those,
we
as
a
working
group
went
through
each
and
every
one
of
those
and
gave
a
kind
of
a
first
round
gut
check
on
where
we
thought
what
kind
of
response
that
call
type
merited,
and
we
were
looking
at
three
possibilities.
B
Should
someone
calling
for
x
call
type
should
should
should
that
call
type
merit
an
armed
response,
or
should
it
have
an
unarmed
response,
or
should
there
be
a
combination
of
the
two,
some
hybrid
or
an
alternative?
So
is
there
a
role
for
technology
moving
forward
that
you
know,
so
that
was
a
very
sort
of
interesting
category
to
consider
as
well,
so,
for
example,
cameras
at
certain
traffic
spots
and
tickets
being
mailed
as
opposed
to
having
a
human
being
involved
with
that.
B
So,
in
addition
to
that,
we
also
thought
it
was
really
important
to
after
going
through
that
process.
Also
look
at
what
are
what
are
we
doing
now?
That
is,
that
could
be
categorized
as
an
alternative
to
a
normal
police
response
and
and
also
let's
look
around
the
country
for
other
models,
not
necessarily
to
take
a
model
and
plop
it
onto
ithaca,
but
also
to
see
you
know.
B
Is
there
anything
that
we
could
learn
so
that
this
whole
process
between
the
local
and
national
involved
are
talking
with
those
involved
with
our
community
outreach
working
worker
community
outreach
group
and
with
lead
law
enforcement,
assisted
diversion?
And
we
can
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
if
we
wanted
in
the
q
a
as
well
as
looking
at
a
national
program
like
cahoots
community
assisted
help
out
on
the
streets
based
in
eugene
oregon?
B
That
has
a
very
interesting
model.
We
are
now
assembled
into
subcommittees.
We've
moved
from
that.
Looking
at
the
call
types
for
now,
we
will
come
back
to
those
call
types
after
doing
deep,
dives
into
subcommittees
to
based
on
that
strong
foundation
of
knowledge
that
we
gained
from
that
examination
of
all
call
types
and
doing
that
first
gut
check
and
now
we're
organizing
the
subcommittees
you
see
here.
So
we
are
now
doing
a
few
dives
into
what
staffing
levels
you
should.
What
should
staffing
levels
be?
B
Shift
assignment,
beat
design
training,
equipment,
needs
technology
and
looking
at
data
and
providing
some
recommendations
based
on
that
research.
So
our
goal
is
to
provide
recommendations
to
the
common
council
by
january,
and
you
can
see
here
the
timeline
we've
completed.
The
delineated
call
type
responsibility,
at
least
our
first
round
to
do
a
gut
check
and
now
we're
moving
into
all
of
the
committees
that
I've
briefly
mentioned
and
with
the
end
goal
of
presenting
recommendations
in
january.
C
So
you
ask:
what
can
you
do
to
get
involved
as
a
community?
We're
asking
that
you
visit
the
public
safetyreimagine.org
website
it's
live
is
active.
We
want
to
hear
feedback
from
you
we're
doing
community
events
virtually.
This
is
the
first
virtual
event
and
first
community
event.
We
did
report
to.
There
was
a
report
given
to
common
council
early
september,
so
the
website
has
been
launched.
Community
input
is
valuable
because
this
is
a
community
process.
C
A
C
Well,
there's
been
quite
a
few
names
given
forth
already
as
to
subcommittees,
but
we
will
still
have
in
future
recommendations
involvement
because
to
get
more
community
members.
So
I
believe
on
the
website
that
you
could
always
state
that
there's
a
email
address
that
you
could
email
of
any
interest
of
any
volunteer
opportunities.
C
Well,
we've
we
we
don't
have
a
proposal
as
of
yet
we're
working
on.
All
of
that
now
and
cahoots
is
one
of
the
alternative
examples
that
we're
looking
at
as
we
reimagine
this
process,
and
I
know
this
is
dear
to
eric's
that
he
could
expand
on
even
more.
B
So,
yes,
we
don't
have
a
final
proposal
at
all,
because
we're
now
we're
in
the
subcommittee
phase
and
and
then
we'll
be
re-looking
at
the
call
types
and
seeing
you
know
where
we
are,
after
all
of
our
subcommittee
work
work
with
our
technical
advisors
and
all
of
that
so
we'll
see
what
this
finally
shapes
out
to,
but
cahoots
in
eugene,
oregon
and
ruth
you
may
know,
but
for
the
for
this,
for
just
for
the
sake
of
just
sharing
with
the
general
audience
who
may
may
not
know
based
in
european
oregon
is
actually
not.
B
That
group
is,
from
my
understanding,
operated
from
a
kind
of
the
equivalent
of
like
the
ethical
free
clinic,
but
it's
called
the
I
believe
the
whitebeard
clinic
and
it's
consists,
and
so
it's
not
actually
a
part
of
a
city
department.
They
are
independent
of
of
eugene's
municipal
government
and
but
they
work
very
closely.
B
They
they're
very
well
coordinated
with
with
the
police
department
there,
and
it
consists
of,
I
believe,
a
two
member
unit,
usually
a
training
medic
and
someone
who
is
trained
in
mental
health
and
de-escalation
and
mediation
who
respond
to
certain
call
types
and
the
call
types
are
those
related
to
mental
health,
those
related
to
houselessness,
those
related
to
substance
abuse,
and
so
that
was
something
that
I
believe
came
out
in
maybe
86
87,
and
so
it's
decades
in
in
place
and
and
came
out
of
experiences
where
before
then
having
an
armed
officer,
respond
to
say
someone
having
a
really
bad
experience
with
a
drug
actually
tended
to
escalate
things
and
so
experimenting
with
this
and
then
over
the
decades
really
refining
it
has
resulted
in
stats,
like
I
believe,
like
in
2019
cahoots,
had
something
close
to
24
000
calls
that
they
responded
to
in
one
year
and
out
of
the
24
000
calls
they
only
needed
to
call
for
police
back
up
150
times.
B
B
But
what
this
does
tell
us
is
that
there
is
cause
to
think
going
back
to
the
slide
that
karen,
you
know
reviewed
with
us
that
this
is
not
only
possible
but
very
plausible.
It's
been
it's
unarmed
responses
can
actually
increase
public
safety
in
with
certain
call
types,
so
it
gives
us
good
a
good
good
model
to
to
learn
from
not
necessarily
to
replicate,
but
absolutely
to
tell
us.
B
This
is
not
only
possible
but
worth
worth
pursuing.
I
hope
I
didn't
talk
too
much,
but
I
am
excited
about
that.
One.
A
B
There's
a
as
you
as
we
as
we
reviewed
there
is
a
armed
unit,
that's
being
retained.
What
call
types
you
know
we
determine.
We
believe
that
it
makes
sense
for
that
arm
unit
to
respond
to
you
know.
We
can't
get
ahead
of
the
working
group
on
that,
but
common
council
didn't
make
it
clear,
as
we
showed
in
the
language
that
those
I
think
the
language
was.
You
know
to
focus
the
unarmed
on
on
on
certain
non-violent
call
types.
So
there's
really
not
a.
B
That
that
is
taken
into
account
because
we
still
retain
an
arm
unit.
The
question
is:
when
you
look
at
call
types-
and
this
is
what
was
really
interesting
to
me
anyway,
I
think
to
other
members
of
the
working
group
is
that
call
types
are
very
the
call
types
that
we
reviewed
encompass
a
lot
like
there.
B
You
might,
you
might
say,
hey
this
is
happening,
or
this
happened
you
know.
Does
it
make
sense
always
to
send
an
armed
officer
to
take
a
report
about
something
that
was
violent?
Maybe
maybe
not.
We
have
to
look
at
that,
but
it's
all
about
very
interesting
questions
and
interesting
to
look
at,
but
in
terms
of
continuing
responses
to
something
that's
violent
and
in
progress.
B
I
believe.
That's
probably
why
common
council
clarify
you
know
made
made
it
very
clear
that
we
were
retaining
an
armed
unit.
C
And
and
when
we
look
at
the
different
call
types,
the
call
delia
nation
that
word
always
gets
me
tongue
tied,
it's
that
they're
about
66
plus
call
types:
do
we
need
more?
Should
there
be
less
so
we're
working
with
the
department
of
emergency
responses?
We
receive
training
from
them
that
acronym
is
doer
and
just
identifying
what
call
types
need
what
type
of
response.
C
So
this
would
better
able
the
police
department,
the
public
safety
department
to
respond
accordingly
to
any
of
the
offenses.
A
C
So
we're
still
gathering
the
data
for
most
of
that
information
and
that's
where
our
technical
advisors,
like
the
data
analysts,
the
chief
and
so
forth
from
the
police
department,
will
be
able
to
provide
more
information
so
that
our
data
analysis
subcommittee
will
delve
deeper
into
it
so
that
it
can
be
identified.
B
I
will
add,
I
will
add
that
yes,
karen
is
absolutely
right
and
we're
looking
forward
to
that
data.
There
was
a
first
kind
of
step
at
some
data,
that's
in
the
in
the
reimagining
public
safety
report
that
was
produced
by
the
collaborative
you
know,
county
city
and
center
for
policing,
equity
group
and
so
there's
some
data
there,
which
actually
breaks
out
the
call
types
into
kind
of
two
types
one.
It's
a
combination
of
those
hey.
B
How
many
calls
how
many
call
types
were
called
into
9-1-1
and
and
and
officer
initiated
and
then
and
then
it
also
took
out
the
calls
that
went
to
dispatch
just
to
see
how
many
calls
in
ithaca
our
officer
initiated.
You
know
to
see
if
there's
a
difference,
I
believe
when
you
just
look
at
like
officer,
initiated
traffic,
and
I
don't
wanna
say
off
offhand
without
looking.
B
But
I
know
traffic
was
number
one
when
you
take
out
when
you
then
put
in
those
calls
that
were
what
went
to
dispatch
traffic
is
no
longer
number
one.
So
I
apologize
maddie
that
I
cannot
answer
that
right
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I
do
that
was
a
first
stab
at
it
and
I
can
I
I
was
just
reviewing
that
earlier
today
again
and
I
can
I'm
sorry
if
everybody
can
hear
my
dog
drinking
water
here,
but
give
me
a
minute-
and
I
can.
B
I
can
cite
what
that
report
said,
which
was
very,
which
was
really
interesting.
C
And
that's
like
the
reimagine
and
safety
plan,
as
well
as
the
new
york
state
executive
order,
are
all
on
the
website
that
if
you
really
want
to
dig
deep
and
delve
into
it
even
further,
it's
available
for
public
review.
A
Yes,
thank
you
eric,
and
karen
next
question
I
have
pardon,
is
from
george
ferrari
george
asks:
does
this
apply
only
to
ipd
and
tompkins
county
sheriffs?
What
about
the
other
police
forces
in
the
county,
especially
the
campus-based
policy?
I
believe
police,
but
also
those
in
rural
communities
in
our
county.
C
Thank
you,
george
and
george,
is
one
of
our
working
group
members
that
we're
always
learning
together
and
trying
to
gain
as
much
knowledge
as
possible,
which
is,
is
great
and
he's
a
council
member.
This
recommendation
one
is
focus
on
the
city
of
ithaca.
C
C
B
Just
briefly
respond
to
it,
because
I
knew
I
had
it
here
and
just
a
little
clumsy
about
it.
So
when
you
look
at
the
top
kinds
of
calls
that
are
made
in
ithaca
that
combine
both
dispatch,
calls
and
officer
initiated
the
top
two
are
traffic
and
property
check,
so
traffic
and
property
check,
when
you
just
look
at
the
call
types
that
are
dispatched
only
the
top
two
are
accident,
which
includes
property
damage
and
injury
and
complaint,
which
is
a
noise
complaint
neighbor
that
kind
of
thing,
so
those
are
the
top.
A
Thank
you
for
that
additional
detail.
Another
question
here
from
the
q:
a
from
murali
s,
is
there
a
plan
for
an
external
review
of
the
public
safety
unit,
both
armed
and
unarmed
parts.
A
A
So
let's
see
here
next
question
I
have
here
camille
tishler
asks:
are
you
developing
a
reasoned
and
educational
response
to
those
who
are
fearful
that
this
plan
will
make
them
less
safe,
as
well
as
those
who
choose
to
use
fear-mongering
to
obstruct
the
process.
C
Well-
and
this
is
what
the
public
safetyreimagine.org
website
is
to
communicate
to
the
community-
what
the
intention
is
for
this
plan
and
to
hear
feedback
as
well
as
gather
information
and
just
to
educate
people,
and
sometimes
we
do
things
and
react
in
the
way
of
fear
because
of
lack
of
knowledge,
and
we
try
to
promote
as
much
as
possible
all
of
the
information
out
there
of
the
objective
of
this
recommendation
and
where
we're
going
forth
with
the
the
the
working
group,
and
we
would
hope
that
in
gathering
people
around
this
community
event
as
well
as
other
future
community
events
that
people
start
to
realize
that
it's
not
we're
not
looking
to
replace
the
ithaca
police
department.
C
It's
a
reimagining
process
to
help
to
provide
additional
training
to
really
look
at
the
data,
dig
deep
and
delve
deep
in
and
to
increase
staffing
where
needed
too,
between
armed
and
unarmed
officers.
So
it's
it's
just
educating
people
so
that
we
can
be
more
aware
of
the
community
that
we
live
in
and
where
we
need
to
put
the
resources
eric.
Is
there
anything
you'd
like
to
add
on
that.
B
I
would
just
say
to
echo
what
you
were
saying
karen
and
thank
you
camille
for
that
question
reasoned.
You
know,
that's
why
we
want
to
be
evidence
driven
and
that's
why
partnering
with
the
center
for
policing,
equity
and
is,
is
really
important
so
that
what
we're
what
we're
presenting
you
know
we're
taking
into
account
what
common
council
also
made
very
clear.
You
know
they
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
going
to
be
safe
for
everyone.
B
What
we
come
up
with,
and
I
think
we
are
going
to
have
to
do
a
really
good
job
of
communicating
that
yeah.
It
is,
and
we
are
looking
forward
to
more
opportunities
for
community
input
and
for
community
interaction
like
this,
and
we
will
take
also
any
feedback
about
any
ideas
about
how
how
to
better
do
that
camille.
What
you're
describing
you
know
how
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
way
to
counter
whatever
fear-mongering
there
may
be
that's
going
on
always
open
to
that,
and
it
could
always
always
do
better.
B
But
I
think,
given
the
very
methodical,
comprehensive
approach
that
we're
taking
that
in
the
end,
you
know
we
hope
that
those
recommendations
will
speak
for
themselves,
but
we
we
will
continue
to
do
a
lot
of.
We
will
have.
You
know
meaningful
opportunities
like
this
one.
Where
we
can.
We
can
share
what
we're
finding
and
have
that
discussion
and
I
think
that's
the
best
you
can
do
in
a
democracy.
B
You
know
you
get
the
input,
we
review
it,
we
talk,
we
we
respond
and
then
we
present-
and
we
explain
why
and
in
the
end
that's
about
the
best
you
can
do,
but
I
think
we've
got
a
fantastic
working
group.
We've
got
a
strong
strategic
partner
in
the
center
for
policing,
equity
and
and
we've
got
a
strong,
strong
partnership
between
the
county
and
the
city,
even
though
there's
a
city-specific
recommendation.
B
Obviously,
when
you,
when
you
pull
the
string
on
something
you
know
it
unravels,
on
the
other
end,
you
have
to
know
where
it's
unraveling,
so
we
need
to
work
together.
So
I
think
we've
got
all
the
right
ingredients
and
then
we'll
take
any
and
all
recommendations
for
how
to
improve
communication.
If
we
think
we
need
to,
if
we're
not
doing
enough
of
it,
if
there's
anything
else
that
we
can
do
to
counter
that.
B
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that
question
and
I'd
also
say
that
the
only
last
thing
I
wanted
to
say
was-
and
it
was
actually
kind
of
in
response
to
the
question
about
you-
know
increasing
violence
and
ithaca,
and
this
is
that
you
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
strong
evidence
to
indicate
that
an
approach
like
this
actually
increases
public
safety.
B
There
are
you
know
how
many,
how
many
opportunities
are
there,
where
an
armed
response
actually
escalates
things?
It
makes
things
less
safe,
not
only
for
for
everyone,
including
the
officer.
So
you
know
looking
at
this.
B
It's
it's
it's
hard
to,
because
we're
used
to
one
model
send
armed
officers
to
everything,
and
I
think
it's
it's
increasingly
clear
that
that
model,
including
to
the
police
who
have
who
have
proposed
unarmed
responses
as
well
in
certain
cases
that
that
that
that
model,
maybe
is
not
the
most
effective
and
the
most
efficient
on
many
levels,
especially
when
we
also
want
one
that's
centered
on
justice
and
equity.
But
on
and
but
on
so
many
other
levels,
maybe
not
the
most
effective
and
efficient.
A
So
raleigh
did
follow
up
to
clarify
in
the
question
that
we
briefly
addressed
earlier.
The
clarification
is
external
in
terms
of
the
review
that
was
questioned
prior,
meaning
a
committee
possibly
picked
out
by
the
city
council,
including
outside
experts
in
public
safety,
who
look
at
records
and
talk
with
members
of
the
unit
and
make
recommendations.
C
Well,
we
do
have
an
external
group,
the
center
for
police
and
equity,
that's
project
manager
on
this
whole
initiative
and
they
are
involved
and
they
come
with
combine
over
a
hundred
more
than
hundreds
of
years
experience
of
law
enforcement
and
combined,
they
work
with
us
on
a
regular
basis
on
a
weekly
basis
and
going
through
every
initiative
and
all
of
the
recommendations.
A
Thank
you,
I
do
have
a
hand
raised,
and
that
is
zachary
nguyen
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
allow
zachary
to
talk
and
then
return
to
the
q.
A.
C
E
Thank
you,
my
name's
zachary
nguyen.
I
have
a
number
of
questions
we'll
make
it
quick
what
would
prevent
someone
from
tailoring
a
call
to
lure
unarmed
officers
into
an
ambush
and
murder
them?
This
has
happened
to
armed
officers,
so
I
also
do
you
seriously
believe
the
legitimacy
of
this
process
can
be
salvaged.
Law
enforcement
morale
has
never
recovered
from
the
gq
article.
That
was
the
true
original
announcement
of
this
plan:
blindsiding
not
only
thompson
county
law
enforcement,
but
the
local
media.
E
The
academy
isn't
typically
not
the
avenue
to
service
that
law
enforcement
members
took
to
tompkins
county
and
the
flow
of
lateral
transfers
has
essentially
been
reversed
out
of
the
county,
and
I
am
curious
as
primary
stakeholders
how
you
would
re-establish
the
confidence
that
law
enforcement
has
in
this
process,
because
I
believe
they
have
absolutely
none.
As
far
as
I
understand,
the
working
group
is
not
diverse
and
the
membership
was
specifically
based
on
race.
E
They
were
not
selected
in
a
good
faith,
open
process
and
none
of
my
questions
or
concerns
about
the
makeup
of
the
committee
have
been
addressed
since
I
have
brought
them
up
over
the
past
several
months.
The
mayor's
new
budget
gives
money
to
the
unbroken
promise
initiative
and
it
is
a
group
that
is
organized
by
yasmin,
rashid,
who
sits
on
the
committee.
So
is
that
a
conflict
of
interest
that
she
could
be
financially
benefiting
from
the
mayor's
decisions,
while
serving
in
a
capacity
to
advise
his
police
reform?
E
Is
I'm
gonna
keep
going
so
the
committee's
been
meeting
in
secret
without
a
record
of
their
meetings
being
open
to
the
public?
Do
you
believe
that
that
is
an
appropriate
way
to
undergo
such
a
massive
reform
and
the
d.a
has
quote
not
been
allowed
to
participate
in
this
process?
Is
he
now
involved-
and
you
know
that
is
essentially
all
my
questions
so
I'll
just
be
glad
to
clarify
any
other
questions
you
might
have
about
what
I
have
asked.
C
Okay-
and
I
I
welcome
you
to
put
your
questions
on
the
website,
I
will,
in
the
respective
time,
not
be
able
to
answer
all
of
them,
but
the
d.a
is
one
of
our
technical
advisors
and
ipd
have
been
involved
in
the
process
from
the
very
beginning
when
this
all
went
to
common
council,
when
tompkins
county
legislature
had
discussion
about
it,
and
we
do
have
ipd
presence
on
the
committee
as
well
as
council
members,
all
the
persons
we
have
community
members
with
lived
experience
and
if
we
go
back
to
new
york
state
executive
order.
203.
C
Thank
you,
but
do
feel
free
to
continue
to
put
any
questions
you
have
on
the
website.
I
do
notice
that
we
have
a
question
from
neoma
mullins
in
the
chat
and
it
says:
do
we
have
call
types
dilianated
by
racial
categories
or
other
new
york
state
protected
classes,
and
this
is
some
of
the
data
neoma
that
we're
trying
to
gather,
and
it
was
asked
of
the
department
of
emergency
responses
doer.
C
So
we're
still
trying
to
gain
some
more
of
that
information
as
to
like
to
ensure
that
we
are
servicing
people
the
way
we
should
and
and
it's
there's
no
racial
bias
whatsoever.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
I
do
have
another
question
from
the
q
a
here.
This
one
came
through
anonymously.
It
poses.
Do
you
feel
this
process
really
accounted
for
the
views
of
our
community,
given
the
secretive
nature
of
the
study
leading
to
the
98-page
report,
or
do
you
feel
the
original
study
solicited
data
that
the
city
administration,
city
administration
only
wanted
to
collect.
C
D
A
If
we
want
to
take
another
from
the
q
a
here
just
acknowledging
that
we
won't
be
able
to
get
to
all
of
the
questions,
however,
we
invite
you
to
continue
the
conversation
on
the
website.
Please,
let's
see
here
the
next
question
I'll
put
up
will
be:
let's
see
here,
here's
one
from
lisa
swayze.
B
Far
as
any
one
of
those
other
recommendations
are
concerned,
I'm
not.
I
haven't
seen
that
or
read
that
into
any
of
those,
but
you
know
our
our
focus
is
our
charge
as
we
described
earlier.
So
I
can't
really
comment
on
that.
I
haven't
seen
that
as
part
of
the
any
one
of
the
18
recommendations
you
know,
and
there
may
be
space
for
a
conversation
around
that
in
the
community
healing
recommendation
which
is
taking
off
and
folks
can
comment
on
that
on
the
community
engagement
website.
B
But
you
know
I
would
be
probably
it
would
be
irresponsible
me
to
say
anything
definitively,
but
certainly
not
part
of
our
charge,
and
I
haven't
seen
that
as
part
of
the
others.
Unless
karen
you
have.
A
Okay
and
then
I
think
this
will
be
the
final
question
that
we're
able
to
get
to
tonight,
and
I
thank
everyone
for
their
participation.
This
question
is
from
deborah
grover,
it
is
posed,
you
mentioned,
quote
technical
advisors,
but
will
they
will
there
be
mental
health
professionals
and
spiritual
advisors,
meaning
pastors
or
rabbis
or
priests?
Who
will
be
advising
you
as
well.
B
Great
question:
in
fact,
one
of
our
one
of
the
working
group
members
is
a
pastor,
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
as
well,
and
you
can
see
a
list
of
the
working
group
members
on
the
on
the
reimagining
public
safety
website
as
well.
As
far
as
I
know
in
terms
of
the
other
tech
among
the
technical
advisors.
C
Yeah
and
I
I
believe
that
there
might
be
in
a
future
time
because
especially
around
community
healing
and
one
of
the
individuals
with
the
center
for
police
and
equity
is
also
a
pastor,
so
that
is
all
being
brought
together
as
technical
advisors,
different
people
from
different
lived
experience,
as
well
as
on
individuals
in
different
areas,
within
law
enforcement
and
all
areas
of
health
and
so
forth.
A
Okay,
so
that
takes
us
to
our
45-minute
mark
for
our
session
this
evening.
I
appreciate
everyone
taking
part
in
our
public
information
session
here
and
we
hope
that
you'll
continue
to
engage
via
the
website
I'll
go
ahead
and
pop
that
website
into
the
chat
one
more
time
for
you
all,
I'm
going
to
put
myself
on
you
eric
and
karen.
If
you
have
any
closing
remarks,
please
feel
free
to
make
them.
B
Yes,
I'll
just
echo
what
karen
said
and
thank
you
all
for
your
questions
and
and
look
forward
to
your
input.