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A
Is
a
beautiful
if
crisp
tuesday
evening,
we're
here
to
present
the
working
group
suggestions
and
recommendations
focused
on
implementing
the
city
of
ithaca's
new
public
safety
agency?
A
A
Publicsafetyreimagine.Org,
where
you
could
see
the
report
in
full,
we,
after
the
release
of
the
report
we
presented
to
common
council
on
march
2nd
and
then
we've
had
a
few
other
presentations
to
other
organizations
like
community
leaders
of
color
and
the
latino
civic
association
of
thompson's
county
and
and
more
to
come.
But
we
wanted
to
do
this
tonight
as
an
open
town
hall
and
our
process,
because
our
process
has
been
very
community.
Centered
we've
been
soliciting
ideas,
input,
thoughts,
concerns
which
you
could
also.
Besides
reading
the
material
do
at
publicsafetyreimagine.org.
A
And
and
and
that's
been
actually
a
great
source
for
a
lot
of
input
and
tonight
there'll
be
another
opportunity,
because
after
our
presentation,
we'll
have
a
moderated
q,
a
and
I've
been
saying
we
a
lot.
So
who
exactly?
Is
we?
That
would
be
myself
and
my
co-leader
karen
yearwood
and
karen
and
I
are
also
joined
by
mona
lita
smiley,
the
project
director
for
the
community
justice
center,
representing
the
city
county,
public
safety
collaborative.
A
A
We
have
also
melody
faraday
public
information
specialist
and
throughout
this
process,
we've
also
had
the
benefit
of
support
from
the
center
for
policing
equity
who've
been
providing
us
with
programmatic
and
administrative
support
and
they're,
a
a
non-profit
that
whose
mission
is
justice
through
science.
You
know
using
using
social
science,
to
improve
policing
and
and
and
reducing
racial
disparities
in
policing
and
from
cpe
center
for
policing
equity.
A
We
have
emma
decker
who's,
a
community
engagement,
specialist
and
she's
working
behind
the
scenes
with
providing
us
with
great
technical
support
and
and
niles
wilson
who
implementation,
specialist
and
manager
for
law
enforcement
initiatives
for
cpe
who's
been
working
with
us
throughout
this
process
and
who
came
to
cp
after
completing
27
years
in
the
newark
police
department
and
as
a
leader
in
the
faith
community
in
new
jersey
for
his
congregation
and
and
last
but
not
least,
we
also
have
with
us
tonight
acting
mayor,
laura
lewis,
who
also
served
on
the
working
group
and
and
now
I'll
turn
it
over
to
mayor
lewis.
B
Thank
you
eric,
and
it's
really
great
to
see
so
many
people
on
this
call
tonight
to
have
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
the
work
that
we.
When
I
say
we
I'm
talking
about
the
working
group
of
which
I
was
a
member,
as
eric
mentioned,
that
we've
been
engaged
in
over
the
last
seven
months
many
months
and
our
charge
was
based
on
the
then
governor's
new
york
state
executive
order,
203
that
executive
order,
centers
communities
of
color
and
we're
looking
at
recommendation
number
one.
B
It
calls
for
a
working
group
consisting
of
ithaca
police
department
staff,
city
staff,
older
persons,
interested
residents
and
outside
experts
to
outline
the
structure
of
the
new
public
safety
system
and
submit
recommendations
to
common
council
which,
as
eric
mentioned,
was
presented
at
the
march
2nd
common
council
meeting.
So
there's
a
great
deal
of
local
community
thought
and
dialogue
and
debate
that
has
gone
into
the
results
of
our
working
group,
which
will
go
more
in
detail
into
tonight.
C
You
mayor
lewis
and
as
the
mayor
had
stated,
about
executive
order,
203,
which
came
about
after
in
june
2020
in
the
wake
of
the
murder
of
george
floyd,
and
a
long
and
painful
history
in
new
york,
state
of
discrimination
and
mistreatment
of
black
brown
people
and
vulnerable
populations.
C
So
we,
as
a
city
meeting
common
council,
took
on
a
charge
to
create
a
new
department
to
focus
on
public
safety
and
public
safety
for
all
and
to
design
this
new
public
safety
department
retain
the
unit
of
unarmed
and
armed
responders,
and
the
unarmed
responders
are
to
be
identified
and
focus
on
calls
that
are
non-criminal,
nonviolent
and
quality
of
life
calls
in
this
charge.
It
stated
that
we
were
retaining
the
ithaca
police
department
to
include
the
members
of
qualifying
as
new
york
state
law
as
police
officers
and
also
in
this
charge.
C
It
states
that
there's
going
to
be
open
lines
of
collaboration
with
other
human
service
providers,
which
we've
started
doing
some
during
this
whole
working
group
process
and
ins,
and
to
specifically
institute
an
ongoing
going
cultural,
responsive
community
engagement
around
public
safety
and
the
charge
also
stated
to
have
the
diverse
working
group
as
the
mayor
had
outlined
for
us
now,
the
working
group.
Oh
sorry,
now.
A
Eric
sorry,
karen,
I
saw
you
were
on
a
roll,
so
you
know,
but
no
this.
This
quote,
which
I
won't
read
out,
is
comes
from
our
report
and
we
really
encourage
everyone
to
read
the
full
report,
which
again
you
could
find
at
publicsafetyreimagine.org.
A
These
are
sentiments
that
came
out
of
the
first
phase
of
this
process
through
focus
groups
and
where
we
reaffirmed
in
in
in
the
in
the
conversations
that
we
had
with
members
of
the
community
and
other
focus
groups
during
the
working
groups
process
and
the
the
idea
is,
you
know
really
it's
time
to
move
away
from
the
one-size-fits-all
model
that
most
communities
have
that
over
relies
on
police,
expects
police
to
solve
every
single
problem,
and
when
you
have
a
model
like
that,
it
produces.
A
You
know
unnecessary
interactions
with
the
justice
criminal
system
for
many
members
of
community
and
for
particularly
for
members
of
the
black
and
brown
community
disproportionately,
so,
and
and
and
those
interactions
with
the
justice
system
can
can
leave
a
lifetime
of
of
barriers
to
education,
employment,
housing
among
other
adverse
outcomes.
So
you
know
encourage
you
to
read
the
full
report
and
that's
what
this
is.
That's
what
this
is
about
and
not
to
mention
a
strain
on
public
safety
resources.
C
So
our
process
throughout
these
past
seven,
eight
months
as
a
working
group,
we
met
on
a
regular
basis.
At
times
we
met
on
a
weekly
basis
within
these
past
several
months,
and
we
also
included
additional
community
members
to
participate
in
subcommittees
you'll
see
in
the
report.
It
goes
into
four
subcommittees
which
we'll
explain
later,
and
so
we
expanded
the
reach
to
have
community
members
and
their
lived
experience.
Part
and
their
expertise
participate
in
the
subcommittees.
C
We
had
technical
advisors
at
times
and
at
the
beginning
of
the
process
we
had
a
whole
on-boarding
process
for
technical
advisors
and
our
expectations
shifted
at
times
the
technical
advisors
we
had
at
the
beginning.
C
We
may
not
have
utilized
them
throughout
the
process,
but
knowing
that
we
have
in
total
the
city
and
the
county
have
has
19
recommendations,
so
they
will
be
utilized
throughout
this
whole
process
and
we
were
supported
by
the
center
for
police
and
equity
and
eric
introduced
the
indiv
some
of
the
individuals
here
today
who
are
still
supporting
this
initiative
and
and
we
we
definitely
appreciated
the
center
for
police
and
equity
and
their
law
enforcement,
expertise
and
co.
C
We
had
community
input
throughout
this
process
through
newspaper
and
through
our
website
publicsafetyreimagine.org,
and
we
ask
for
your
continued
feedback
as
you
really
delve
into
this
120
page
report
that
you
bring
back
what
your
comments
are.
So
we
can
all
learn
from
this.
There
were
email
newsletter
updates
when
and
tompkins
weekly
there
were
half
page
in
case
someone
didn't
have
access
to
the
internet
and
emails
that
they
were
able
to
write
out
on
the
form
and
leave
it
at
city
hall
or
the
local
library.
C
So
we
we
wanted
to
hear
from
community.
We
had
community
forums.
We
had
an
in-person
forum
with
the
unhoused
community.
We
had
other
forums
from
bipart
community.
We
did
forums
prior
in
phase
one
of
this
initiative
back
in
2020.,
so
we
we
reached
out
to
as
many
community
voices
and
stakeholders,
because
this
is
a
community
process
and
as
we
delve
to
reimagine
the
public
safety
and
the
decision-making
among
the
working
group
wasn't
always
unanimous.
C
Some
thought
the
process
was
too
too
short
a
space
of
time
and
some
thought
that
we
could
have
done
more.
Some
thought
that
that
we
didn't
do
enough
and
some
are
even
thought
that
it
was
too
fast
as
slow
as
well
as
too
slow
and
some
had
hoped
for
more.
But
overall
the
conversations
we
tried
to
make
sure
the
conversations
were
deliberate.
C
We
had
working
agreements
that
we
worked
with
and
and
at
times
we
came
to
consensus
and
when
we
needed
a
vote
in
some
of
our
decision,
a
vote
was
made,
but
we
we
always
try
to
capture
the
lived
experience
of
all
participants
and
represent
the
community
at
large
and
hear
from
others
within
the
community.
A
And
as
a
I
wanted,
a
little
more
drama
before
we
revealed,
we
did
the
reveal.
D
But
I'll
go
ahead
and.
A
Since
it's
it's
been
out
there
for
a
bit
now
we
were
tasked,
as
we
went
over
at
the
beginning
of
this
with
by
common
council,
to
also
come
up
with
naming
conventions
for
the
new
department
and
for
the
the
the
two
units,
the
armed
and
unarmed,
and
the
positions
within
those.
And
so
we
we
as
we
we
reiterated,
wanted
this
to
be
very
community
centered.
A
We
solicited
input
and
the
winner
from
the
public
forums
we
the
working
group,
listed
names
and
provided
names,
and,
of
course,
we
opened
it
up
on
the
public
safety
reimagine.org
site
for
suggestions
and
in
fact
the
winner
came
through
that
through
that
platform,
and
that
is
the
department
of
community
safety.
The
the
the
criteria
that
we
used
in
order
to
come
up
to
that
was.
Does
the
name
reflect
the
change
for
a
new
department?
Does
the
name
allow
for
future
responsibilities
of
the
new
department?
A
Is
the
name
intuitive
meaning
that
does
it
help
people
understand
what
the
department
does
and
is
the
name,
inclusive
and
and
that
met
all
of
those
criteria
and
and
one
out
and
so
within
that
we
were
also
tasked
with
naming
the
proposed
leader
for
this
department,
and
we
agreed
to
commissioner
of
community
safety
and
within
that,
the
two
units,
the
division
of
police,
would
be
the
armed
unit
and
the
division
of
community
solutions
would
be
the
unarmed
unit.
A
The
division
of
police
would
be
overseen
by
director
police
and,
where
required,
by
new
york,
state
law
be
known
as
the
police
chief,
which
is
the
civil
service
title.
So
new
york
state
law
mandates
that,
in
certain
instances,
that
deposition
be
known
as
police
chief,
but
the
outward
facing
title
would
be
director
of
police
and
the
division
of
community
solutions
would
also
have
a
director
director
of
community
solutions
to
kind
of
look
at
this
as
well.
Let's
move
to
the
next
slide,
then,
in
terms
of
the
structure.
A
So
here
it
may
be
a
little
easier
to
see
the
department
of
community
safety
overseen
by
commissioner
and
the
two
divisions
representing
the
two
units
that
common
council
outlined
in
their
charge
to
us
and
then
the
two
leaders
of
those
and
then
within
the
boxes.
You
can
see
the
functions
that
each
would
have.
Thinking
of
this,
probably
the
closest
analog
would
be
like
our
department
of
public
works.
You
have
a
department
of
public
works,
you
have
a
superintendent
of
public
works.
You
have
a
division
of
voter
and
sewer.
A
You
have
a
division
of
streets
and
facilities,
each
of
those
have
their
leaders.
Each
of
those
are
very
closely
related,
but
each
of
those
have
distinct
tasks,
and
so
and
that's
why
it's
important
to
have
that
distinction,
and
so
the
division
of
police
common
council
had
also
said
that
all
of
the
current
roles
positions,
titles
right
rankings
would
remain
the
same.
A
So
we
abided
by
that
and
within
the
division
of
community
solutions,
we
were
tasked
with
delineating
what
exactly
the
unarmed
responders
would
be
focused
on
and
and
propose
how
many
so
we'll
get
into
that.
When
we
talk
about
the
this,
the
recommendations
from
the
staffing
subcommittee
but
we'll
now
get
into
the
delineation
of
responsibility,
and
so
karen.
C
Yes,
so
we
went
through
the
call
delineation
process,
these
are
call
types
for
services
and
we
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
go
through
this
process
without
the
expertise
of
michael
steinle,
the
director
of
the
department
of
emergency
response
and
when
we
first
looked
at
the
process,
all
the
call
types
about
60
odd
call
types
we
have
here
in
ithaca,
we
weren't
familiar
with
it.
We
didn't
have
a
definition
for
it
and
we've
since
have
that
update.
It's
in
the
report.
It's
detailed
in
there,
so
we
divided
out
with
the
division
of
police.
C
Looking
at
the
armed
responders
would
look
at
these
call
types
and
division
of
community
solutions
with
would
look
at
these
additional
call
types
and
when
you
look
at
the
call
types
under
the
division
of
community
solutions
like,
for
instance,
property
check,
property
check
is
a
call
type
where,
if
you're
going
on
vacation-
and
you
need
an
officer
to
responder,
to
look
at
your
property
and
just
to
check
in
on
it
or
if
you've
closed
your
office
or
you
forgot
that
you
locked
your
office
or
not,
and
you
need
an
officer
to
look
at
go
to
your
place
of
business
to
make
sure
that
the
doors
are
locked.
C
So
a
property
check
does
not
need
someone
an
armed
responder.
So
that's
why
we
as
a
working
group,
decided
that
we
we
would
say
that
this
goes
under
the
umbrella
of
an
unarmed
responder,
and
but
you
may
also
see
under
their
child
abuse
and
wonder.
Well,
what
were
they
thinking,
but
child
abuse
in
the
call
type
the
child
abuse?
C
Is
it's
more
or
less
states
that
an
act
of
willful
harm
if
a
child
is
left
in
a
house
with
no
heat
in
the
winter,
if
any
other
a
great,
egregious
child
abuse
the
child
protective
services?
Cps
is
always
called
by
the
department
of
emergency
response
for
those
calls
and
then
under
co-response,
or
it
depends
section.
C
This
is
where
we're
leaving
it
to
the
commissioner
of
the
department
to
review
and
further
analyze,
since
it
may
need
an
alternate
response,
or
it
may
need
both
an
armed
and
an
unarmed
responder
to
address
this,
and
so
here
we
have
the
definition
of
co-response
to
get
someone
from
the
division
of
police,
as
well
as
the
division
of
community
solutions
to
consider
and
go
and
look
at
both
of
these
responses
to
determine
what
needs
to
be
done
and,
as
stated,
this
is
a
model
that,
under
the
leadership
of
the
new
commissioner
and
we
learned
through
this
working
group,
exercise
that,
during
the
height
of
the
pandemic,
the
police
department
was
using
an
alternate
model
in
a
telephonic
response.
C
C
And
the
the
reason
why
we're
looking
and
reimagining
public
safety-
and
it
goes
back
to
a
state
of
the
executive
order,
203
to
eliminate
racial
inequities
and
to
rebuild
trust
in
government
and
to
ensure
public
safety
improves
the
lives
of
all
marginalized
communities,
and
this
was
a
quote
taken
from
the
center
for
american.
The
I
forgot
the
quote
reference.
That's
I
remember
footnote
19
in
the
report
and
couldn't
remember
the
center
for
american
progress.
Yes,
thank
you.
A
Yes,
and
which
you
know
we
footnote
in
there,
really
encourage
you
to
dig
into
that
report.
It's
called
the
community
responder
model
and
and
very
highly
influential
in
our
thinking
as
well.
One
thing,
one
story
from
all
of
that:
you
know
in
our
in
our
working
group.
We
also
had
officers
involved,
one
one
who
were
very
much
part
of
the
group
one
you
know
officer
described.
You
know
this.
This
was
something
we
discovered.
A
A
In
this
case,
this
was
because
someone
was
suffering
from
some
abdominal
discomfort
and
the
police
officer
was
required
to
go
and
went
and
felt
uncomfortable
that
they
were
there
because
they
weren't
really
necessary,
but
they
were
there,
and
so
you
know
imagining
what
that
person
felt
who
was
experiencing
the
abdominal
discomfort
and
what
they
felt
if,
if
they
felt
uncomfortable,
imagine
how
they
felt
so,
there's
there's
a
there's.
A
There's
a
lot
to
to
look
at
in
our
community
and
to
reconsider
and
this
model
that
we're
proposing
allows
us
to
do
that
and
to
have
those
conversations
and
again.
I
also
like
to
highlight
michael
steitle's
leadership
in
that
area
as
well
who's
looking
at
that
from
the
perspective
of
dispatch
and
and
working
with
those
responders
as
well,
and
we
mentioned
that
we
had
subcommittees
that
delve
in
a
little
deeper
into
each
of
the
key
aspects
that
were
really
important
for
producing
this
report.
A
A
Those
subcommittees,
as
was
alluded
to
before,
gave
us
an
opportunity
by
the
way,
to
expand
community
engagement
because
we
increased
the
number
of
community
members
apart
from
those
on
the
working
group
by
by
by
a
great
degree,
so
we
were
able
to
have
even
more
community
voices
involved
in
this
process
so
going
to
the
first
staffing
level
beat
design.
Earlier.
I
had
mentioned
that
we
had
proposed
that
the
unarmed
unit
be
known
as
the
division
of
community
solutions
that
that
unit
that
division
would
be
initially.
A
The
staffing
subcommittee
has
suggested
that
it
be
hired
initially
with
five
five
responders,
and
that
would
be
as
a
as
a
start
in
the
first
year
to
make
adjustments
as
necessary
and
then
from
there
determine
additional
staffing
needs,
doesn't
mean
you
have
to
wait
a
full
year
to
determine
the
additional
needs,
but
within
the
course
of
that
year,
working
with
the
commissioner
and
the
leader
of
that
unit,
you
can
make
enough
of.
A
You
can
get
gather
enough
experience
and
information
to
then
make
the
adjustments
you
need
to
make
as
opposed
to
hiring
a
full
compliment,
and
they
would
be
known
as
community
responders
and
the
division
of
police.
Again,
we
were,
as
common
council
outlined,
that
staffing
was
to
remain
the
same
and
though
we
did
look
at
beat
design
and
at
shift
assignment,
and
we
recommended
the
subcommittee
recommended
prioritizing.
A
Even
distribution
of
9-1-1
calls,
there's
not
a
a
great
disparity,
but
but
to
do
that
would
make
would
make
it
far
more
efficient
and
effective
than
the
current
beat
design
has
in
terms
of
the
distribution
of
9-1-1
calls
and
there's
a
lot
of
detail
in
the
report
on
that
specifically,
there's
also
a
recommendation
on
adopting,
what's
known
as
a
pitman
shift
assignment
configuration
pitman
after
pitman
new
jersey,
which
started
this
and
that
that
is
moving
to
a
12-hour
day.
A
That
would
the
way
these
things
work
out,
have
an
officer
have
one
weekend
day
off
a
week.
Currently,
that's
not
the
way
things
work
with
the
current,
the
current
number
of
hours
that
are
worked
in
a
shift,
and
so
that
would
maximize,
as
it
says,
officer,
sustainability,
efficiency
and
and
greater
work-life
balance.
A
It's
important
that
all
of
us
all
of
us
who
are
involved
in
public
safety,
be
as
healthy
and
as
and
that
the
work
we
do
is
as
sustainable
as
possible,
and
so
that
is
a
recommendation
that
would,
if,
in
order
to
be
adopted,
would
have
to
come
up
in
the
next
collective
bargaining
agreement
process,
the
both
divisions.
A
Of
course
would
have
to
work
in
tandem
very
closely,
and
there
is
also
a
recommendation
from
the
committee
of
10
hours
of
paid
service
a
month
for
at
community
service
sites
optimally
in
the
beats
that
the
officers
would
be
located
in
so
moving
on
then
to
the
training
protocols
subcommittee
that
which
I
served
on,
and
we
also
had
input
from
community
members
and
sergeant
david
amaro
from
the
police.
A
You
know
and
police
department.
I
think
ip
ipd
has
also
been
recognized
as
a
leader
in
reality.
Based,
you
know,
training
scenarios
in
the
state,
so
there
was
a
lot
that
sergeant
romaro
had
to
contribute,
and
but
there-
and
there
was
a
lot
also-
that
a
community
contributed
in
terms
of
what
we
would
like
to
see
both
with
the
police
and
and
with
those
who
and
with
the
community
responders.
A
There
was
a
lot
that
was
recommended
that
ipd
already
does,
but
this
also
overlaps
with
the
things
that,
with
the
with
the
trainings
that
we
would
like
community
responders
to
have
so
de-escalation
alternatives
to
use
of
force.
Trauma-Informed
approaches,
mental
health
awareness,
holistic
responses
all
play
a
big
central
role
and
there's
a
lot
more
detail
in
the
report
on
that.
A
Equipment
and
technology
needs.
This,
you
know,
ranged
from
speech
recognition
technology
to
having
a
mechanism,
a
mechanism
for
reporting,
lower
priority
occurrences
online.
Like
bike
theft.
Do
we
really
need
to
send
an
officer
whether
you
know
it's
an
unarmed
community,
responder
or
a
police
officer
to
take
that
report,
and
this
would
be
an
option
for
those
who
have
access
to
that
who
were
to
to
access
an
online
portal?
But
it
should
be
there
as
an
option.
A
Many
communities
have
implemented
this
kind
of
system
or
experimenting
with
it,
and
there
was
also
a
recommendation
to
look
at
the
full
potential
of
our
current
online
records
management
system,
which
is
owned
by
this
county
and
the
city,
and
there
may
be
much
more
potential
than
we're
utilizing
now,
especially
in
the
area
of
data
collection
and
demographics.
A
And
then
going
to
research
and
data
needs,
you
know
this,
this
there's,
you
know
conversations
around.
You
know
accountability
and
and
an
accountability's
role
in
culture
change.
There's
there's
much
more
that
we
could
be
we
we
should
be
collecting
data
on
outcomes
of
activities
by
race
and
other
demographics
is
one
that
we
we
don't
have
much
information
on.
It's
really
hard
to
see
how
we're
doing
or
how
far
we've
come
or
not,
and
so
that'll
be
really
important.
A
But
it'll
also
be
important
with
with
this
new
division
to
understand
how
well
we're
doing
what
are
the
type
number
and
share
of
9-1-1
calls
that
have
been
handled
by
community
responders?
What
are
the
outcomes?
Have
we
reduced
the
likelihood
of
negative
outcomes
like
arrest
and
use
of
force
with,
with
with
with
this
new
division?
That'll
be
really
important
and
really
key
to
collect
again,
there's
a
lot
more
detail
in
the
report,
but
that's
just
a
brief
overview
and
plays
an
integral
role
with
everything
that
we're
suggesting.
C
C
The
current
ipd
budget
is
12.8
million,
and
the
city's
budget
is
84
million,
so
this
is
in
addition
to
that
and
this
budget
would
allow
for
the
existing
ipd
and
the
city's
budget
and
and
it's
broken
down
further
on
the
next
slide,
which
goes
into
the
personnel
and
the
benefits
as
well
as
vehicles.
Uniforms,
and
all
of
this
is
detailed
in
the
report
with
more
explanation.
C
So,
what's
next
we
did
present
at
common
council
earlier
this
month
and
the
process
for
that.
If
the
mayor
wanted
to
say
anything
about
the
next
step
with
common
council.
At
this
point,
thanks.
B
Karen
yes,
as
has
been
mentioned,
the
report
was
presented
at
the
march
common
council
meeting.
We
did
not
go
into
a
lot
of
depth
because
we
wanted
people
to
have
opportunity
to
really
study
carefully
the
full
recommendations
in
the
report,
so
the
recommendations
will
be
discussed
considered
again
at
the
april
common
council
meeting.
B
It
is
likely
to
that
we
will
be
receiving
input
from
council
members
from
the
community
that
will
help
us
to
decide
what
resolutions
council
will
be
considering
it
is
very
possible
there
will
be
some
recommendations
that
will
require
a
referendum
and
the
timeline
on
any
potential
referenda
would
be
council
making
a
decision
and
a
vote
by
the
june
at
the
very
latest,
the
july
common
council
meeting,
in
order
to
be
on
the
november
ballot
for
for
referendum.
B
So
there
are
a
number
of
steps
that
need
to
occur
before
we
reach
some
decisions
and
there
will
be
a
lot
of
debate
and
we
look
forward
to
the
community's
input
on
that
debate.
A
few
of
commenters
today
have
said
that
the
full
report
is
available
on
the
city
website
and
there
are
town
halls
we're
trying
really
to
do
as
much
outreach
as
possible
to
clarify
to
answer
questions
and
to
let
people
know
what
the
the
next
steps
are.
B
It
is
also
the
case
that
there
are
other
plans
as
part
of
this
report,
and
these
remaining
plans
are
part
of
the
process.
It
I
think
we
pointed
out,
we've
done
these
presentations
a
few
times.
So
pardon
me
if
I've
said
this
or
if
someone
else
in
our
group
has
said
this
before,
but
there
were
20
recommendations
that
came
out
of
the
county
and
the
city
collaborative
and
some
of
those
recommendations
are
county.
Specific
some
are
city
specific
and
some
are
joint
recommendations.
B
B
We
had
this
slide
at
the
start
of
earlier
presentations.
So
I'm
sorry
if
I
jumped
in
with
this,
but
this
is
I'm
not
sure
if
mona
wants
to
to
take
care
of
that
yep.
B
E
Mona
leaders
might
you're
good,
that's
perfectly
fine.
I
am
mona
lita
smiley
and
I
am
the
project
director
for
the
community
justice
center
and,
like
I
think,
mayor
lewis
was
just
talking
about
the
city
plan
is
just
one
of
the
19
remaining
that
we
have
for
the
reimagining
public
safety
initiative.
So
we
have
city,
specific
county,
specific
and
joint
plans,
and
so
I'm
not
going
to
read
through
every
single
one
of
them.
E
That
is
listed
right
here
on
the
screen,
but
I
will
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
plans
that
we
have
in
progress.
One
of
them
is
a
collaborative
with
the
city
in
the
county.
It's
a
community
healing
plan,
it's
sessions
with
the
black
and
brown
communities
and
then
working
with
law
enforcement,
so
we're
moving
right
along
we've
had
a
couple
sessions.
E
We
are
in
talks
with
a
facilitator
for
the
law
enforcement,
so
we
have
met
with
both
tompkins
county
sheriff's
department
and
ipv,
and
that's
going
to
get
rolling
very
soon
and
then
we
are
also
working
collaboratively
on
the
alternative
response
for
the
wraparound
health
and
human
service
delivery
and
where
we're
at
with
that
right
now
is
we're
reviewing
the
sequential
mapping
reports
that
were
completed,
and
then
we
are
outlining
the
process
to
initiate
a
research
study
and
then
I
think,
another
exciting
one
that
we're
working
on
right
now,
which
is
county
specific,
is
the
thompkins
county,
sheriff's
unarmed
pilot
program,
and
that
has
actually
been
really
really
I'm
impressed.
E
It's
been
really
smooth.
So
far
we
had
a
bunch,
an
abundance
of
applicants
who
are
going
to
start
the
interview
process
with
tomorrow,
actually
we're
starting
interviews
with
candidates
we
have
about,
I
think,
15
candidates
that
are
going
to
be
interviewed
for
that
position.
So,
like
everyone
has
been
saying,
please
visit
the
website.
That's
where
you
can
add
your
input,
can
answer
questions
or
ask
questions,
receive
answers
back
from
staff.
A
Sorry
about
that,
thank
you
mona,
and
this
is
a
quote
from
our
from
karen
and
my
opening
letter
in
the
report,
and
we,
I
think
it
sums
it
all
up,
and
we
do
believe
that
this
model,
this
new,
that
our
recommendations
in
total
will
from
this
working
group
and
the
community
really
will
provide
a
more
expansive,
inclusive
and
effective
public
safety
reality
for
every
one
of
us,
and
that
is
that
is
the
goal.
By
focusing
on
on
what
we're
focusing
on
it
improves
public
safety
for
all.
A
And
I
believe
now
that
would
lead
us
to
the
q
a
portion
of
our
time
tonight
and
I
will
have,
I
think
our
moderator
will
be
shelley.
F
Okay,
thanks
eric
thanks
everyone
good
evening,
all
I'm
shelley
nunn,
the
director
of
human
resources
for
the
city
of
ithaca.
I
also
have
served
on
the
project
management
team
since
the
inception
of
this
endeavor,
as
well
as
served
as
a
technical
advisor
for
the
the
the
working
group
and
to
tonight.
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
as
the
audience
you'll
have
a
couple
of
ways
that
you
can
ask
questions,
one
would
be
to
use
the
q
a
feature
and
you
can
type
in
your
questions
and
we
will.
F
F
We
do
have
respectful
engagement
rules
and
ask
that
you
debate
the
ideas
that
and
and
not
the
people
or
individuals
violators.
I
should
warn
you
that
violators
will
not
be
able
to
continue
so
before
we
get
into
the.
We
have
a
few
questions
in
the
q
a
there
were
some
questions
that
individuals
came
to
eric
and
karen
on
their
own.
So
I
will
weave
those
in
to
tonight's
questioning,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started.
F
C
Yes,
so
the
implementation
of
this
report
will
be
a
gradual
process
with
intentionality
we're
not
under
the
impression
that
we
can
immediately
assign
five
newly
hired
community
responders
to
the
amount
of
work
outlined
in
the
report.
C
But
we
are
aware
it
would
need
to
start
slowly
so
hiring
the
commissioner
of
the
department
of
community
safety
is
of
the
utmost
and
when
we
start
us,
when
we
state
a
slow
start,
this
is
meant
by
introducing
call
types,
because
you
saw
the
list
of
call
types
and
initiatives
to
the
new
hires
and
we
were
reworking
the
ecosystem.
F
Thank
you
karen
second
question:
how
does
a
new
department
name,
how
does
a
new
department
name
indicate
an
actual
culture
change
within
the
officers
themselves,
and
maybe
both
karen
and
eric
can
tackle
this.
C
Oh,
I
I
could
start
off
that.
We
strongly
strongly
believe
that
the
very
existence
of
a
civilian
commissioner
within
this
proposed
structure
will
provide
a
refreshing
way
to
foster
a
new
culture
in
its
own
right.
We
see
driving
a
healthier,
more
community,
centered
and
driven
culture
for
all.
Ithaca
is
a
key
responsibility
of
the
commissioner's
role,
leading
this
initiative
to
address
public
safety
issues.
That
would
better
be
better
served
by
someone
with
a
different
expertise
and
approach.
C
C
C
They
didn't
disagree
with
police
and
they
said
we
need
policing,
but
we
need
them
to
be
trained
in
a
certain
way
so
that
they
treat
us
respectfully.
So
the
experience
they
had
wasn't
a
good
experience.
So
we
want
to
ensure
that
when
we
say
public
safety
for
all
that,
culturally,
that
we're
looking
into
all
community
members-
and
the
commissioner
is
charged
with-
will-
will
be
charged
with
instituting
the
systems
and
policies
that
will
support
the
desired
culture.
A
Yeah,
my
apologies.
If
you
hear
my
dog
in
the
background,
he
just
wants
to
be
heard,
but
I
I'll
say
I
guess
I
would
just
add
that
one
as
karen
said
culture
can't
be
mandated
from
above,
but
but
a
strong
leader
can
help
shift
it
and
and
that,
as
karen
mentioned
spotlighting
examples
of
actions,
they
hope
to
see
more
of
within
the
culture,
some
of
which
already
exist
in
the
culture.
A
Karen
mentioned
that
forum
with
the
unhoused
that
we
were
in
and
there
there
was
high
compliments
paid
to
sergeant
mary
arseo
for
as
as
someone
who
you
know,
they
really
appreciated
her
approach,
and
so
things
can
exist
within
a
culture
at
a
limited
scale
other
times
they
need
to
be
created
and-
and
this
role
is
really
critical
towards
that.
A
The
other
thing
is
that
culture
change
can
also
be
fostered
by
the
transparency
and
accountability
of
what
we
choose
to
measure
and
our
data
collection
is
going
to
be
really
important
there
as
well
and
making
that
data
collection
and
that
data
very
transparent
to
the
community
would
be
key
so
and
in
what
we've
recommended.
A
Both
divisions
could
foster
stronger
connection
to
the
community
because
the
police
would
be
allowed
would
be
able
to
because
many
of
those
quality
of
life
calls
are
being
addressed
by
the
community
responders.
That
would
give
the
police
the
the
bandwidth
and
the
time
to
proactively
build
community
trust
outside
of
responding
to
calls,
and
this
increasing
community
engagement
and
trust
can
can
foster
an
elevated
expectation
of
how
to
interact
with
the
community
that
new
members
of
either
division
will
come
to
expect
is
the
norm.
A
So
it's
a
combination
of
leadership
systems,
processes
and
accountability,
informed
by
metrics
and
increased
community
engagement
through
this
model.
That'll
nurture
the
culture
change.
If
we
keep
the
current
model
and
maybe
just
tinker
and
add
a
few
things,
it
doesn't
have
everything
that
this
this
model
represents
and
that
you
know
we
just
delineated.
A
F
Thank
you
eric.
Next,
we
have
a
question
regarding
mental
health.
Some
folks
expected
to
see
more
mental
health
in
this
plan.
Where
does
that
work
stand
eric?
Do
you
want
to
address
that.
A
So
mental
health
is,
as
you
know,
between
the
county
and
the
city.
Mental
health
is
a
county
responsibility
and
so
there's
a
lot
that
needs
to
be
done
in
terms
of
our
work
together
on
that
front,
so
it
wasn't
as
simple
as
saying
we're
going
to
have
among
our
own
responders.
You
know
a
mental,
a
behavioral
health
specialist,
a
mental
health
specialist.
A
A
Looking
at
our
alternative
models
is
a
big
part
of
this
reimagining
process.
So
there's
going
to
be
an
opportunity,
so
the
city's
plan
to
redesign
its
department
tasked
with
public
safety
activities
is
meant
to
be
one
of
many
plants
and
it'll,
be
in
addition
to
the
plan
that
ms
smiley
mentioned,
to
evaluate
and
implement
alternative
response
models
and
to
the
tompkins
county
sheriff's
pilot
program
from
responses.
A
So
the
commissioner
may
determine
that
a
mental
that
mental
health
expertise
is
needed
in
the
division
of
community
solutions
and
so
the
work.
So
our
report,
you
know,
suggests
a
model
to
be
used
at
the
city
level
and
we're
committed
to
organizational
cultural
change
and
suggestions
of
the
report,
support
those
goals
and,
as
an
example
of
how
we
imagine,
plans
will
complement
one
another.
A
Those
alternative
responses
that
are
being
of
ultra
that
are
being
evaluated
in
the
joint
city
county
plan
may
impact
how
the
city's
new
department
will
respond
or
partner
with
county
agencies,
to
respond
to
a
call
for
service.
So
we've
got
it
that
has
to
be
figured
out,
but
we
have
left
room
for
that
and
so
very
excited
about
that
about
this
partnership,
and
in
doing
that.
A
You
have
any
other
comment
or
clarify
anything
that
I
may
have
not
said
as
clearly,
as
should
have
been
said,.
E
No,
I
I
think
you
did
a
great
job
explaining
it.
It's
going
to
be
a
collaborative
effort
and
we
are
looking
at
all
aspects
because
the
city
is
within
the
county.
It's
a
big
thing
that
we
keep
saying
the
city
is
part
of
tom
king's
county,
so
we're
going
to
jointly
look
at
what
options
we
have
available
and
how
to
address
the
whole
count,
the
county
as
a
whole,
not
just
the
outlying
villages,.
F
Just
thank
you
mona
just
so
you
know
we
have
several
questions
awaiting,
so
I
would
just
ask
the
responders
to
be
as
concise
as
possible
possible
and
to
let
the
audience
know
if
we
do
not
get
to
your
question.
We
will
include
your
question
in
a
frequently
asked
question
and
answer
it
and
that
will
be
on
the
website,
so
we
are
limited
in
time.
Some
of
your
questions.
F
I
honestly
eric
and
karen
you've
already
answered
many
of
the
questions
that
are
that
are
being
asked,
so
people
are
asking
similar
questions
moving
right
along
trying
to
be
concise
here.
Does
the
plan
abolish
the
ithaca
police
department
and
why
or
why
not?.
C
Nowhere
in
the
120
pages
does
this
plan
state
about
abolishing
the
ithaca
police
department.
That
was
that's,
never
been
an
intention.
I
know
in
the
recommendations.
It
also
stated
that
it's
not
defunded
the
city
is
maintaining
armed
police
officers
as
a
part
of
this
newly
redesigned
department
and
which
was
stated
as
part
of
the
charge
that
common
council
gave
us.
We
we
heard
from
the
police
about
staff
and
support
to
the
police.
G
C
From
the
police
about
their
well-being,
this
report
addresses
wellness
and
takes
into
consideration
a
work-life
balance
is
needed.
The
recommendation
on
under
which
our
working
group
was
formed
back
in
april
2021
at
the
with
the
common
council's
unanimous
vote,
approval
for
the
creation
of
a
new
public
safety
agency
and
the
overarching
goals
of
the
agency
were
some
stated
to
center.
The
experiences
of
the
city's
marginalized
and
vulnerable
populations
to
focus
police
resources
on
crime,
solvent
and
prevention,
and
to
add
a
new
unit
of
non-law
enforcement
first
responders,
which
this
report
is
addressing.
All
of
those.
F
So
I
have
a
quick.
Let's
see,
how
will
the
commissioner
of
community
safety
be
chosen,
appointed
hired,
voted
in
by
the
community,
so
I
can.
I
can
speak
to
that
that
quickly
we
do
in
the
city
have
through
our
city
charter,
a
procedure
for
hiring
department
heads
and
there
will
be
opportunity
for
the
community
to
be
involved
at
some
point
in
that
process
we
have
had
previous
searches
with
our
police
chief,
where
the
community
was
actively
involved.
E
B
And
shelly,
if
I
may
just
add,
I
believe
before
we
get
to
that
stage,
there
must
be
adoption
of
this
plan,
the
recommendation
and
the
the
referendum
as
we're
working
on
developing
the
position.
Descript
description,
that's
your
expertise.
B
F
B
F
Mayor
another
question:
may
I
know
the
plans
to
sustain
the
budget
for
this
plan
long
term.
B
Well,
budgets
are
challenging,
you
know
in
a
city
of
32
000
residents,
we
have
an
84
million
dollar
budget
which,
quite
frankly,
is
not
as
much
as
we
would
like
it
to
be
in
order
to
accomplish
in
order
to
accomplish
everything
we
wish
to
accomplish.
B
As
has
been
said,
the
proposed
budget
will
span
multiple
budget
cycles.
We
may
be
looking
at
four-year,
even
five-year
budget
cycle,
so
there
are
always
each
budget
cycle.
There
are
very
challenging
decisions
to
be
made,
and
this
will
be
one
of
them,
so
I
can't
give
a
better
answer
than
that,
because
we
don't
have
an
endless
source
of
funding,
but
it
will
be
very
carefully
addressed
over
multiple
years,
we're
very
sensitive
to
the
impact
on
taxpayers
and
my
apologies
for
my
motion
activated
lights
in
the
office.
B
I've
been
in
so
many
meetings
and
those
of
you
I've
been
in
meetings
with
understand
that
my
lights
go
out
on
occasion.
Anyway,
that's
my
comment
on
budget.
F
Is
it
important
to
have
a
director
of
police
who
has
worked
as
a
sworn
officer
or
is
promoted
from
ipd
ranks,
or
can
a
civilian
or
non-local
leaders
also
be
an
effective
police
chief?
If
the
current
officers.
F
It
is
actually
new
york
state
law
that
the
individual,
if,
if
we
have
more
than
police
officers,
that
they
do
have
to
be
law
enforcement,
so
that
is
and
and
they're
trained,
specifically
for
law
enforcement.
So
that's
what
we
would
want,
so
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
had
anything
to
add.
G
G
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Lavon,
let's
see,
if
I
can
figure
this
out,
I
apologize
I'm
a
newbie
when
it
comes
to
this
good.
A
H
All
right,
you
know
I've
addressed
a
number
of
questions
directly
to
the
co-leads
eric
rosario
and
karen
yearwood,
and
I
would
appreciate
a
response
to
those
questions.
How
will
this
new
department
be
able
to
recruit
new
officers
when
this
reform
effort
is
a
primary
cause
of
recruitment
and
retainment
issues
at
the
current
department?
H
I
know
for
a
fact
that
there
have
been
zero
lateral
transfers
into
ipd
census
reform
effort
began,
and
I
do
want
to
remind
you
that
abolishment
was
first
discussed
by
svante
merrick
in
the
gq
article
that
served
as
the
announcement
for
this
plan,
and
I
would
like
to
know
what
role
svonte
merrick
has
outside
of
office,
since
he
had
one
of
his
employees
at
the
people
for
the
american
way
lobbying
here
in
the
local
press
and
what
role
ithaca's
reform
effort
is
going
to
play
on
a
national
stage
when
it
seems
like
it's
kind
of
a
failure
in
the
immediate
term.
H
F
Thank
you
zachary.
I
can
answer
the
at
least
a
portion
of
your
question
regarding
the
recruitment
of
police
officers.
We
are
not
alone
in
the
city
of
ithaca
in
terms
of
the
lack
of
ability
to
recruit
for
law
enforcement.
It
is
a
nationwide
issue.
I
was
at
a
conference
a
couple
of
months
ago
with
municipalities
from
all
over
the
country
with
the
same
issues
and
concerns
what
we
will
be
doing
in
a
collaborative
effort.
Effort
is
developing
an
inclusive
process,
an
inclusive
recruitment
process,
and
we
are
going
to
hopefully
crea.
F
A
Just
one
one
thing
too,
is
that
you
know
this:
this
model
allows
us
to
have
many
of
the
things
that
we
keep
expecting
and
over
relying
police
to
do
to
be
done
by
those
who
are
whose
whole
training
is
around
those
things.
So
the
expectation
that
you
solve
every
single
thing
you've
got
to
be
a
social
worker.
You've
got
to
be
the
law
enforcement
specialist.
A
All
of
that
that
other
departments
still
have
and
are
still
operating
under
that
one-size-fits-all
model
is
the
one
we're
moving
away
from
and
in
fact
one
that
police
themselves
were
asking
for
in
terms
of
looking
at
other
things
that
at
aspects
of
their
role
and
calls
that
they
they
recognize
would
be
better
done
by
others.
So
imagine
if
we're
that
department
who
can
do
that,
that
would
be
very
attractive.
A
C
F
Thank
you.
I
will
do
one
more
raised
hand
that
is
william
metro,
william
you're
live.
I
J
Okay,
can
you
hear
me
yes,
I
was.
F
J
As
anybody
asks
the
police
department
what
they
need
as
far
as
adequate
adequately
doing
their
job
and
because
they
have
told
me
that
there's
a
staffing
problem,
they're
short
staff-
and
I
I
would
suggest
that
for
every
police
officer
that
has
been
fired,
let
go
or
or
retired.
I
would
suggest
hiring
at
least
three
to
to
the
police
force,
because.
B
Shelly,
if
I
may
add
a
comment
here,
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
members
of
the
ithaca
police
department
were
part
of
the
working
group.
I
served
on
one
of
the
subcommittees
with
a
couple
of
members
of
the
ipd.
B
They
have
had
a
voice
in
the
initial
resolution
that
common
council
approved
almost
one
year
ago
and
they
have
played
a
part
in
the
discussions,
the
deliberations
and
the
debates
that
the
working
group
has
had
over
seven
or
eight
months.
So
we
have
been
listening.
We,
as
has
been
said,
the
working
group
did
not
agree.
Members
of
the
working
group
did
not
agree
on
everything,
so
we
took
votes,
but
everyone
on
the
working
group
had
a
vote,
so
those
voices
have
been
included.
F
This
is
the
one
community
town
hall
that
we
have
scheduled
to
host.
There
have
been
smaller-
I
I
I
wouldn't
call
them
but
smaller
organizational
meetings,
and
we
expect
that
we
will
be
doing
more
of
those.
It
does
allow
for
more
opportunity
for
dialogue
and
more
productive
q
and
a's.
F
So
we
will
continue
to
do
that.
There
is
going
to
be
a
black
town
hall,
hosted
by
southside
community
center
on
june,
what
march
skipped
ahead
on
march
31st
and
that
would
be
available
to
everyone
on
youtube.
C
And
and
I'd
like
to
interject
that,
prior
to
us
presented
at
presenting
at
common
council,
we
met
with
journalists
who
said
that
they'll
try
to
capture
as
much
as
possible
in
the
various
local
periodicals
and
which
they've
been
doing
as
well
as
asking
questions,
and
we
have
a
you
could
go
on
publicsafetyreimagine.org
if
you
have
any
additional
questions
or
any
feedback
so
that
we
could
answer
those
questions
as
well.
As
we
provide
frequently
asked
questions,
because
we
know
the
community
has
lots
of
questions
around
the
whole
reimagining
process.
I
Hey
there
good
evening,
everyone
thanks
for
having
me
when
you
guys
are
thinking
about
candidates
for
these
upcoming
unarmed
responders.
One
issue
I've
heard
brought
up
amongst
the
current
makeup
of
the
ipd
is
a
lack
of
officers
that
it
from
or
live
within
the
city
itself.
Is
this
a
priority
for
the
new
public
safety
responder
department?
Can
we
expect
to
see
a
more
representative
force
for
ithacans.
F
I
would
I
would
answer
your
question
that
part
of
part
of
one
of
our
plans
is
to
develop
an
inclusive
recruitment
process
and,
yes,
there
is
strong
interest
in
recruiting
there's
always
there
always
has
been
a
strong
interest
and
for
recruiting
from
within
the
community,
and
that
will
continue
so,
yes,.
A
I'll
add
just
speaking
from
myself,
I
think
it's
absolutely
critical.
You
know
the
idea
of
you
know
credible
messengers,
folks,
who've,
true
peers,
being
part
of
that
making
up
that
group
would
increase
the
effectiveness
of
it,
and
you
can
read
more
about
that
in
that
community
responder
paper
by
the
center
for
american
progress
that
we
reference
as
well
about
how
important
that
is.
So
for
myself,
I
I
would.
I
think
this
provides
a
tremendous
opportunity
to
recruit
from
the
community.
I
know
we've
always
that's.
A
That's
always
been
what
we
try
to
do,
but
here
the
opportunity
that
may
be
maybe
easier
to
achieve.
I
would
hope
so
anyway,.
C
And-
and
we
also
stated
in
the
report-
sorry
shelley-
that
for
both
divisions,
the
division
of
police
and
the
division
of
community
responders
that
we
want
them
to
get
involved
in
the
community.
We
want
them
to
devote
like
10
hours
of
paid
time,
where
they're
connecting
with
the
community
to
build
that
trust,
build
that
relationship
to
as
they
in
the
beat
design
as
they
work
with
their
respective
communities.
F
F
And
to
to
answer
that,
yes,
there
were,
there
were
individuals
over
65
who
were
involved
in
the
process
from
the
beginning,
but
I
we
we
hear
your
concerns
and,
as
we
mentioned
all
along
tonight,
our
goal
is
to
create
an
environment
that
is
safe
for
everyone,
and
we
firmly
believe
that
if
you,
if
we
have
an
environment
that
is
safe
for
the
most
marginalized,
imminent
minoritized
groups,
it
will
make
it
safer
for
everyone
remember
you're,
only
as
strong
as
your
weakest
link-
and
you
know
this.
This
is
not
a
zero-sum
game.
A
And
increasing
diversifying
public
safety,
so
we're
expanding
with
the
unarmed
responders
taking
on
a
lot
of
those
quality
of
life
concerns
and
other
things
that
police
are
currently
encumbered
with
allows
allows
police
to
be
to
be
able
to
focus
on
crime
prevention
and
responding
to
violent
crime
and
us
to
more
effectively
more
appropriately
respond
to
those
other
concerns.
So
this
would
be
a
model
that
actually
absolutely
would
increase
overall
safety
of
shelly
said,
but
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that.
That's
that's
the
whole
point
of
this.
That's
what
this
would
be
doing.
K
B
I'll
I'll
comment
on
that
and
others
may
have
comments
as
well.
We
know
that
there
are
certain
decisions
that
will
trigger
a
referendum
so,
for
example,
the
reporting
lines
if
there
is
well,
I
should
say
that
currently
the
police
chief
reports
to
the
mayor,
if
there
is
a
commissioner,
that
the
police
chief,
the
the
director
of
policing
and
the
director
of
community
responders,
will
report
to
that
changes,
the
reporting
structure,
and
so
that
is
one
of
the
items
that
may
trigger
a
referendum.
B
F
Thank
you
mayor
and
we
are
winding
down
here.
I
have
a
question.
It
has
several
parts.
I
will
read
it
who
who
well
number
one?
Who
is
the
dispatcher
dispatcher
and
I
it
must
be
referring
to
maybe
something
that
was
said
in
the
presentation-
why
so
few
initial
community
responders
with
that
long
list
of
situations
they
respond
to?
F
C
I'm
not
sure
if,
like
the
dispatcher
was
we,
we
spoke
about
the
department
of
emergency
response
and
mikey's.
Michael
steinle
is
the
director
of
that
department
and
they
dispatch
calls
to
ems.
C
Any
911
calls
come
through
them
and
they
dispatch
to
ems
fire
department
and
ipd,
and
when
we
showed
the
call
delia
nation
slide,
we
stated
the
co-response
and
this
can
be
a
fourth
dispatch
to
the
community
responders.
B
Okay,
if,
if
I
could
jump
in
yes,
that's
how
I
understood
it
too,
the
dispatchers
are
the
911
dispatchers.
B
I
thought
it
was
very
interesting
question
about
how
and
if
there
is
a
connection
to
the
green
new
deal,
and
I
will
comment
to
say
that
the
green
new
deal,
the
implementation
of
the
green
new
deal
is
very
likely
to
result
in
greater
job
creation
and
greater
job
availability.
Greater
housing
availability
can
have
a
real
impact
on
community
safety,
so
that
is
where
I
see
the
connection,
but
I
really
appreciate
that
question
because
not
everyone
is
making
the
connection,
but
I
think
it's
legit
yeah.
A
If
I
could
just
that's
what
a
department
community
safety
would
do,
I
mean
make
these
connections
the
the
division
of
community
solutions.
Isn't
just
the
unarmed
responders.
A
As
we
say
in
the
report,
it
you
know
represents
an
opportunity
to
make
connections
for
a
more
expansive
idea
of
what
community
safety
is
so
working
with
local
organizations
locally
community
based
organizations,
in
tandem
with
the
unarmed
responders,
in
tandem
with
the
police,
and
that
would
also
include
working
with
a
department
working
with
planning
and
economic
development
and
the
green
new
deal
it.
It.
A
With
our
current
model,
we
don't
we
we're
thinking
about
law,
enforcement
and
and
and
some
other
things,
but
but
but
this
department
would
because
we're
thinking
more
expansively
forces
us
to
make
these
kinds
of
connections
and
we'd
be
open
to
that
kind
of
community
input
for
those
kinds
of
connections.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
question
because
it
highlights
one
of
the
strengths
of
this
model
as
well.
A
A
No,
we
were
pretty
forthright
that
there
was
differences
of
opinions
on
all
aspects
of
this,
so
we
worked
on
a
consensus
model.
So
no,
there
was
no
100
percent
agreement
on
it
and
I
don't
know
that
anyone
would
ever
expected
100
agreement.
A
But
I
do
know
that
there
was
one
comment
made
in
our
last
meeting,
where
we
kind
of
reflected
on
our
time
together
and-
and
that
was
that
it
was
even
though
many
of
us
were
at
opposing
points
of
view.
You
know
it
was
it
was
it
was.
It
was
good
that
we,
it
was
a
good
good
good
to
experience
how
we
still
tried
to
listen
to
one
another
and
incorporate
what
each
other
was
trying
to
say
and
listen
respectfully.
A
So,
no,
I
don't
think
anyone
ever
expected.
100
unanimity-
maybe
we
dreamed
of
it,
but
no,
we
fell
short
of
100,
but
it
it
does.
F
B
Yes-
and
I
I
just
want
to
respond
by
saying
that
this
plan
will
allow
our
current
police
officers-
and
I
should
say
that
currently
there
are-
is
it
64
funded
positions?
B
There
are
some
who
are
on
various
leaves
of
absence.
That
is
not
64
officers
at
work,
so
it
is
smaller
than
that
number.
B
What
we
are
looking
for
is
a
better
balance,
balanced
life
for
our
officers,
so
that
they
also
have
opportunity,
as
has
been
stated,
to
build
relationships
in
the
community,
and
they
have
asked
for
this.
They
want
the
opportunity
to
have
walking
beats,
for
example,
build
relationships
by.
I
think
I
first
met
sergeant
arseo
when
she
was
on
the
walking
beat
on
the
commons,
and
officers
are
looking
for
that.
B
So
there
is
an
effort
to
balance
workloads
so
that
the
most
appropriate
responders
are
the
ones
attending
to
calls,
and
so
that
community
relationships
and
trust
can
be
built.
We
do
have
an
issue
referring
back
to
one
of
the
earlier
questions
around
community
trust
and
one
of
the
ways
to
build
that
is
to
have
our
officers
out
and
in
the
community
more.
B
I'll
just
point
out
that
the
mayor
is
a
civilian,
but
the
the
different
reporting
structure
is
that
the
director
of
police
police
chief
will
report
to
a
commissioner
whose
full
time
position
will
be
dedicated
to
the
the
management,
the
training,
the
culture
of
this
entire
department.
F
I'm
gonna
allow,
I
have
a
hand
raised
in
the
chat
in
the
hand,
raised
q
a
let
me
just
open
that.
D
D
I
want
to
take
this
time
just
to
voice
my
support
for
the
final
plan.
Well,
I
personally
hope
for
more
unarmed
community
responders.
I'm
grateful
for
any
addition
of
unarmed
folks
responding
to
a
call
which
is
ultimately
going
to
reduce
the
risk
of
harm
and
violence.
I
also
want
to
note
the
benefit
to
law
enforcement.
D
That
said,
I
did
have
a
quick
question:
can
you
give
any
examples
of
other
cities
that
have
delineated
their
calls?
Similarly,
to
what
you're
proposing
here
and
have
they
achieved
their
goals?
And
what
do
their
staffing
levels
look
like
compared
to
what's
being
proposed
in
ithaca?
Thank
you.
F
A
There
are
there's
so
many
models
out
there
and
I
know
center
policing
equity
also
presented
some
to
us.
You
know
and
some
focus
on
the
mental
health
and
addiction
and
houselessness,
and
then
others
focus
on
the
quality
of
life
concerns.
So
you
could
have
different
kinds
of
flavors
so,
depending
on
this,
the
most
probably
well-known
would
be
eugene
oregon
cahoots,
which
focuses
on
mental
health,
addiction
and
homelessness,
and
they
have,
for
example,
in
2019,
like
24
000
calls
and
out
of
24
000
calls
for
those
three
categories.
A
They
had
to
call
for
police
back
up
just
about
one
percent
of
the
time
about
150
times
and
handled
all
the
others,
so
that's
kind
of
inspiring,
because
those
are
the
situations
that
of
the
ones
that
we're
talking
about,
even
though
that's
to
be
worked
out
with
the
county
it
just
it
just
says
this
can
be
done
and
that's
over.
That's
that's
experience
over
decades.
A
They
started
in
1989,
but
there
are
others-
and
you
know
denver
starting
something
similar
has
started
something
similar
to
cahoots
and
that
they've
been
piloting,
and
that
has
been
very
successful.
A
I
think
they
haven't
had
to
call
for
police
back
up
once
and
so
they're
expanding
that
many
others
too
many
to
list
the
list
of
of
those
that
many
of
us
read
up
on
and
looked
at
is
also
in
that
community
responder
paper,
where
they
have
a
full
listing
of
all
the
communities
that
have
some
flavor
some
variation
of
what
we're
we're
attempting
here,
but
I
think
we'd
be
the
first
jurisdiction
in
the
us
to
try
something
the
way
we're
doing
it,
where
it's
a
division
of
unarmed
responders
within
this
new
department.
A
So
it's
hard
to
so
we're
both
looking
at
successful
practices
of
this
and
also
in
some
ways
developing
it
with
ithaca
flavor.
So
it's
hard
to
say
to
compare,
but
there's
a
lot
in
that
paper.
If
someone
was
really
interested
in
looking
at
all
the
communities
we
touched
on
I'll
stop
there,
because
you
know.
F
I
could
keep
talking
about
this
yeah.
I
knew
you
could
carry,
but
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
information
and
there's
a
lot
of
information
on
the
internet
about
the
various
different
communities
that
are
doing
this
groundbreaking
work
just
real
quickly.
I'm
I
just
saw
a
question
I'm
going
to
quickly
answer
it
was
someone
had
asked
whether
or
not
we
could
explain
the
community
justice
center,
and
I
would
just
briefly
say
that
the
community
justice
center
is
led
by
mona
smiley
she's,
the
project
director.
F
She
just
started
with
us
in
january,
and
she
is
responsible
for
the
implementation
of
all
of
the
plans,
all
of
the
collaborative
plans,
the
plans
that
involve
both
the
city
and
the
county.
Just
quickly
that
that's
I
I
I
didn't
want
that
one
to
go.
Sorry
mona
for
stealing
your
thunder,
but
I
know
we're
at
out
out
in
we
are
at
the
end.
Is
anyone
gonna
close
us
out
here
again,
I
will
repeat
unanswered
questions,
although
I
I
believe
most
were
answered
will
be
included
in
our
frequently
asked
questions.
B
And
I
would
just
thank
everyone
for
joining
us
tonight.
We
appreciate
the
questions.
We
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
discuss
the
plan
with
you
and
the
questions
have
been
great
and
thank
you
for
being
here.
At
one
point
there
were,
I
saw
45
or
50
participants,
so
I
think
we've
reached
a
good
group
and
please
share
the
information
and
please
read
the
full
report.