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A
So
virtual
meetings
are
permitted
through
august
13..
We
don't
know
if
that
will
be
extended,
there's
reasonable,
very
good
reason
to
believe
it
may
be,
but
that
remains
to
be
seen.
Okay,
so
it's
just
after
6
p.m.
On
august
10.,
I
wanna
welcome
the
members
of
the
special
committee
of
council
to
look
at
reimagining
public
safety.
A
I
wanted
to
be
here
for
the
first
meeting
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
I
wanted
to
thank
members
of
council
for
agreeing
to
serve
on
yet
another
special
committee.
As
I
said
at
the
last
common
council
meeting,
I
have
been
asking
a
lot
because
there
is
a
lot
of
work
that
we
are
engaged
in
in
the
city
at
the
present
time,
and
so
I
very
much
appreciate
my
colleagues
agreeing
to
serve
on
this
special
committee.
I
also
wanted
to
introduce
marquan
frederick,
who
is
a
cornell
student
and
an
intern
in
the.
B
A
I
have
asked
mark
juan
to
join
these
committee
meetings
as
a
non-voting
member,
but
as
someone
who
also
brings
the
experience
of
having
served
on
the
reimagining
public
safety
working
group,
I
know
a
few
of
us
were
on
sub
committees
with
marquan
during
that
process.
So
his
experience
can
prove
to
be
them.
A
I
want
to
ask
or
state
rather
that
this
committee
is,
in
my
view,
a
short
term
assignment
of
roughly
six
months,
I'm
hoping
for
a
report
from
this
committee
by
the
december
common
council
meeting.
Now
you
may
I
don't
know
what
recommendations
you
will
discuss
and
come
forward
with.
You
may
have
a
recommendation
for
an
ongoing
public
safety
committee
that
will
be
left
up
to
you.
A
A
So
taking
a
look
and
understanding
the
city,
specific
recommendations
and
also
some
of
the
collaborative
recommendations
you'll
be
determining
some
of
the
next
steps
and
determining
where
you
will
want
to
ask
for
more
information.
A
And
tonight
a
goal,
one
goal
is
for
you
to
think
about
and
agree
upon
a
meeting
schedule
discuss
a
chair
of
the
committee.
I
did
not
want
to
appoint
a
chair,
but
rather
wanted
it
to
come
from
within
the
group
and
then
the
presentation
of
the
police
department's
data
dashboard.
This
was
one
of
the
recommendations
that
was
discussed
and
came
out
of
reimagining
public
safety,
an
interest
in
transparency,
accountability,
and
so
I
greatly
appreciate
all
the
work
that
the
ithaca
police
department
has
spent.
A
The
time
spent
the
energy
and
resources
spent
on
developing
this
dashboard.
And,
similarly,
I
think
sergeant
arseo
will
demonstrate
the
some
of
the
lexical
policy
software,
but
I
I
think
one
of
the
key
presentations
is
for
the
dashboard
presentation.
A
So
let
me
turn
it
over
to
the
committee
for
you
to
decide
your
meeting
schedule
and
chair
of
the
committee
and
then
we'll
turn
it
over
to
sergeant
parseo.
C
D
Of
order
duck,
I
believe,
as
the
only
as
you
I
think
we
have
the
mayor
here,
but
as
the
voting
member
as
the
alternate
acting
mayor,
you
are
the
de
facto
chair
until
we
decide
who
a
chair
is.
This
is
for
the
public
certification.
I
know
everyone
else
knows
this,
so
you
manage
that
process.
E
D
And
I
suppose
my
discussion
on
it
would
be
you
know,
I
know,
george
is
very
involved
in
the
civilian
oversight,
has
been
involved
in
the
reimagining
process
and
appreciate
his
his
insights.
So
that's
yeah.
That's
what
I'll
throw
out
there.
E
Oh
great
well,
this
might
be.
Is
there
any
phrasal
discussion?
I
would
love
to
turn
the
reins
over
if,
if
there's.
G
I
would
be
willing
to
do
this.
I
realize
it's
a
challenging
job
and
I
will
look
if
I'm
chosen.
I
will
look
for
collaboration
from
ever
from
all
of
us
in
reaching
our
goal
and
if
I
am
voted
in,
I
may
demand
I
may
ask
for
a
recount.
E
Well,
a
stirring
nomination
speech,
all
those
in
favor.
E
G
What
do
we
think
about
a
meeting
schedule?
Should
we
meet
once
a
month
every
two
weeks.
F
F
G
D
Thank
you,
yeah
I'll
agree
with
phoebe
there.
I
I
definitely
want
to
acknowledge.
You
know
the
the
sizable
sort
of
charge
that
you
know
the
mayor
outlined
for
us
at
the
beginning
of
this.
At
the
same
time,
I
also
want
to
you
know,
be
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
these
meetings
are
not
just
our
time
right.
D
It's
it's
it's
staff
time
as
well,
and
so,
while
I
appreciate
there's
a
substantial
amount
of
work
that
has
to
be
done,
I
I
think
more
than
once
a
month
might
be
a
bit
too
ambitious
as
we
go
into
budget
season,
and
I
know
how
busy
that
will
be.
So
I
would
I
would
agree
with
what
phoebe
said
once
a
month.
A
Thanks,
george
monthly
meetings
may
make
sense.
You
might
want
to
discuss
tasks
for
the
group
between
meetings.
It
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
involve
another
full
committee
meeting,
but
you
may
have
things
that
individual
members
of
this
committee
are
working
on
in
between
meetings
working
on
independently
just
a
thought.
H
I
think
we
need
to
be
very
mindful
of
what
it
is
we
hope
to
accomplish
and
if,
if
we
are
only
going
to
meet
once
a
month
as
a
group
which
I
think
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
we
need
to
be
realistic
in
terms
of
the
workload
that
we're
taking
on
or
have
a
dedicated
group
of
individuals
who
are
going
to
make
sure
we
have
a
full
packet
prepared
information
available
at
the
meetings
so
that
the
meetings
can
be
used
effectively
and
efficiently,
and
so
that
does
require
all
of
the
members
to
you
know.
H
Do
their
reading
ahead
of
time
have
questions
available,
so
we
can
actually
make
progress
in
a
short
period
of
time.
G
Well,
I
think
that
means
we're
going
to
meet
once
a
month,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
like
a
full
throttle
meeting
with
lots
of
preparation,
and
maybe
some
subcommittee
work
as
well.
G
To
my
mind,
we're
going
to
need
to
bring
in
some
people
to
speak
with
that.
G
We
haven't
spoken
with
in
the
past,
I'm
thinking
of
district
attorney
right
off
the
bat
I'd
like
to
learn
more
about
what
they're
doing
in
rochester
with
their
unarmed
contingent.
That
seems
to
be
having
quite
a
bit
of
success,
any
other
thoughts
about
people
we
should
be
hearing
from.
D
F
I
think
we
should
definitely
hear
from
people
who
have
worked
on
committees,
people
who
have
worked
on
committees
and
just
getting
some
input
of
what
what
I
don't
I
I
might
be
wrong,
but
because
I
don't
want
to
re-hash
what
already
happened,
but
some
input
on
how
I'm
trying
to
see.
I
I
don't
know
if
I'm
wording
it
right
if
we
can
get
people
who
have
worked
on
so
we
have
mark.
I
F
If
we
could
have
others
who
have
worked
on
group
worked
in
other
pieces,
just
you
know
kind
of
updating
us
on
on
how
they
see.
Does
that
make
sense.
B
D
Just
taking
that
last
exchange
as
well
as
the
comments
that
you
said
about
inviting
the
d.a
and
others,
you
know,
I
think
perhaps
it
would
be
beneficial.
I
know
some
of
us
have
spoken
with
our
colleagues
like
in
rochester
and
elsewhere,
but
perhaps
we
might
want
to
reach
out
to
other
municipalities
who
have
who
have
undertaken
similar
work
and
invite
them
to.
You
know
provide
presentations
both
for
us,
but
also
you
know
the
public's
benefit.
G
H
I
don't
know,
if
my
little
hand
icon
is
working
or
not.
I
would
also
like
to
hear
from
members
of
the
community
police
board
we
did
adopt
in
march
2021
to
grant
more
oversight
authority
to
the
cpb.
H
That's
actually
been
something
that
we
haven't
really
flushed
out,
how
that
would
actually
happen,
and
I
would
like
to
see
and
hear
from
them
with
their
suggestions,
as
well
as
reviewing
options
that
other
municipalities
have
done
to
grant
greater
community
oversight
to
their
community
police
board.
G
I
would
like
also
perhaps
to
explore
how
the
lead
program
could
could
use
our
unarmed
contingent
if
that,
if
that's
a
positive,
if
that
connection
makes
sense
or
not
how
much
mental
health
training,
our
unarmed
group
should
have
at
least
to
begin
with
how
they
would
work
with
ipd
with
county
social
services
or
if,
if
we're
asking
too
much
too
many
things,
those
are
things
I
think
we
need
to
should
be
part
of
our
rapport.
D
Yeah,
I
do
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
George,
and
you
know,
I
think,
maybe
one
of
the
like
it
sounds
like
we're.
Circling
the
drain
on
this,
but
like
it's,
maybe
one
of
the
the
takeaways
from
today
should
be.
D
We've
got
people
who
are
you
know?
I
know
I
know
you
know
phoebe
just
agreed
to
take
the
lead
on
on
something
right.
We
got
people
who
are
responsible
for
each
of
these
things,
and
maybe
we
bring
back
sort
of
a
brief
report
on
a
series
of
items
for
next
meeting
where
we
can
work
on
in
advance
of
that
we
can
work
on
scheduling
people
in
and
and
where,
where
a
presentation
might
not
be
appropriate.
D
Instead,
maybe
someone
deliver
a
a
brief
oral
report
on
their
own
on
the
item
that
they're
responsible
for.
G
Excellent
idea,
I'll
I'll
reach
out
to
the
district
attorney
cynthia.
I
can't
remember
if
it
was
you
or
travis
who
was
talking
with
me
recently
about
the
fact
that
a
group
from
rochester
may
be
coming
down
to
ithaca
in
in
the
near
future.
H
I
know
that
they
do
have
a
tour
planned.
I
can
double
check
with
travis
on
that
they
were
going
to
take
a
tour
of
the
lead
or
learn
from
the
lead
program.
Here
they
have
done
information
sessions
for
us
about
their
program,
so
I'll
see
what
we
can
do,
perhaps
to
include
see
if
they
would
be
willing
to
make
a
presentation
if,
if
that
would
be
what
you're
interested
in
or
are
you
just
looking
for
a
summary
of
their
program?
I'm.
H
G
Are
you
familiar
with
that
group
that
arrangement
sergeant
arseo
in
rochester,
I'm
not?
No,
I
think
I
what
I've
heard
about
it
is
encouraging.
I
I
thought
dawson,
I
was
a
little
confused
by
what
you're
asking
was
it
in
terms
of
the
presentation.
G
No
in
general
ideas.
I
There
are
no,
I
don't
have
any
immediate
ideas.
H
H
My
internet
is
unstable,
so
I
might
turn
off
my
video
while
I'm
not
talking.
G
E
I
think
most
people
have
covered
things.
It
might
be
helpful
too.
It
might
be
obvious
to
everyone
what
our
charge
is,
but
the
it
might
be
still
helpful
maybe
to
make
it
really
explicit
what
our
final
product
will
be,
so
that
we
make
sure
we
cover
all
our
bases
before
december,
so
that
we
don't
leave
any
unanswered
questions.
E
Target
yeah.
E
Creep
either
just
speaking
of
someone,
not
just
in
government
but
just
in
software
other
industries,
you
tack
on
too
much
and
it
just
becomes
unachievable
and
so
laying
out
our
goals
and
what
answers
we
are
sorry.
What
questions
we
hope
to
answer
might
be
helpful.
G
E
G
Okay
I'll
say
one
thing,
and
that
is
to
have
a
clear
understanding
of
what
types
of
call
calls
are
required
to
be
done
by
police
officers.
G
That's
that's
number
one,
because
there
was
a
lot
of
confusion
about
that
with
the
task
force.
G
And
what
types
of
calls
would
not.
G
Not
be
an
impingement
on
police
duties,
so
what
kinds
of
calls
the
unarmed
force
can
do
without
violating
the
current
labor
agreements
with
the
pba.
F
I
don't
know
well
yeah,
I
I'll
just
say
what
I've
been
feeling
I
I
really
would
like
for
us
to
at
the
end,
to
have
a
real
answer
of
what
reimagining
means.
I
I
I
just
reimagining
to
me
may
mean
something
very
different
from
someone
else,
and
maybe
we
too
late
for
that.
But
I'd
really
like
us
to
have
at
the
end
of
this
a
real.
F
I
Yeah,
really
just
a
second
phoebe's
comments.
I
really
not
necessarily
just
to
agree
but
to
clearly
I
guess,
define
what
that
mean
and
I
think
to
touch
upon
what
phoebe
said
earlier.
I
think
we
do
need
to
include
more
civilians
and
just
to
like
remember
that
to
really
re-emphasize
that
we're
not,
we
will
be
unable
to
reimagine
if
we're
continuing
to
use
the
same
protocol.
I
So
I
really
think
we
need
to
really
just
really
try
to
get
the
community
and
the
civilians
really
involved,
even
in
this
process,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
and
just
to
really
clearly
define
what
it
means
to
reimagine
public
safety.
I
Not
more
so
like
you
know,
because
we
see
different
models
happening
across
on
the
country,
but
I
feel
that
you
know
from
the
community
perspective
the
com.
We
won't
not
necessarily
the
same
protocols,
but
it's
we're
unable
to
reimagine
policing
without,
I
guess
the
viewpoints
of
people
outside
of
this.
Like
these
same
spaces,
civilians
is
what
I
mean.
G
Okay,
faith.
C
Sorry,
george,
I
don't
want
to
jump
in,
but
I
just
want
to
be
clear
about
when
the
meetings
will
be
before
we
move
down.
I
want
to
make
sure,
because
I
will
set
them
up
for
you
guys,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
if
they
will
be
this
one
like
if
the
wednesdays
are
good
for
you.
I
can
set
those
up
every
month
on
we're
in
the
second
wednesday
right.
Second
wednesday.
G
Okay,
rob
and
then
cynthia.
D
Thanks
george
yeah,
I
think
to
the
point
that
that
colleagues
had
just
been
raising
one
of
the
things
I
would
like
to
put
on
the
table
for
discussion
right
I
mean,
I
think
it's
really
important.
D
Obviously
a
lot
of
this
effort
so
far
has
been
you
know,
crisis
response,
but
I
do
think
that
it
would
be
good
to
have
a
sort
of
an
evidence-based
conversation
around
what
violence
and
eruption
and
harm
reduction
policies
we
might
be
able
to
implement
that
are
helping
to
address
safety
concerns
when
we're
not
necessarily
in
moments
of
crisis,
and
I
think
actually,
this
potentially
dovetails
really
nicely
again.
D
I
wanna,
I
know
we're
gonna,
get
a
presentation
on
the
dashboard,
but
I
really
wanna
commend
the
folks
who
worked
on
that
because,
when
it
comes
to,
I
think,
phoebe's
point
about
what
are
we
going
to
be
all
on
the
same
page
I
mean,
I
think,
it's
really
useful
to
be
able
to
use
some
of
those
statistics
and
those
data
to
help
evaluate
how
effective
our
our
proposed
changes
may
be.
Right
I
mean
if
we
have
concrete
benchmarks
that
we
can
be
comparing
against
and
we
can
see
how
effective
our
policies
are.
G
G
G
I
thought
of
just
one
other
thing:
I
agree
with
you
cynthia
I
would
like
to
in
the
course
of
these
meetings,
get
a
better
understanding
of
current
ipd
training
that
addresses
de-escalation
and
mental
health.
G
I
think
some
people
assume
that
ipd
doesn't
have
any
training
about
these
things.
I
think
that's
an
untrue
assumption,
but
I'd
like
to
know
specifically
from
ipd
what
what
training
our
officers
have
now
and
what
training
they
would
like
to
add
to,
and
that
would
include
cross-cultural
stuff.
G
Okay,
phoebe.
F
I
agree
with
you,
george,
but
I'd
also
like
community
to
input
on
what
are
some
trainings.
They
would
like
to
see
ipd
acquire.
G
G
Faith,
it's
it's
all!
It's
yours!
I!
What
wednesdays
we
can't
meet
on
the
first
wednesday
or
the
third
wednesday
or
the
fourth
wednesday
that
leaves
the
second
wednesday.
If
we're
gonna
be
wednesday
people
does
anybody?
Have
a
favorite
tv
show
that
they
watch
on
wednesdays.
G
G
A
G
What's
next
the
mary
is,
it
is
it
time
for
your
show.
J
I
don't
know,
I
think
so
I
think
I'm
going
to
be
presenting
our
new
community
dashboard,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen.
C
J
All
right
yes,
so
this
is
our
ethical
police,
community
dashboard
that
was
created
in-house
by
a
few
people
here,
along
with
city.
It
helped
us
out
a
lot
with
it
as
well.
It's
an
interactive
dashboard
which
I'm
going
to
show
you
all,
and
it
presents
data
on
two
different
categories:
calls
for
service
and
staffing.
J
It
was
created
with
a
program
program
called
microsoft,
bi
and
this
isn't
a
live
dashboard,
but
it
updates
every
tuesday
at
midnight.
So
today
is
I
think
wednesday.
This
date
is
going
to
remain
the
same
until
the
next
tuesday,
and
then
it
will
refresh
with
the
previous
week's
data
it's
collected
through
two
systems
that
we
use
here
at
ipd,
which
is
our
spillman
records
management
system,
which
is
the
system
that
officers
do
their
reports
in
and
our
in-time
scheduling
software.
J
If,
at
the
end
of
this
presentation
and
question
and
answer
session,
I
don't
get
to
all
your
questions
or
you
think
of
something
later.
There
is
a
tutorial
video
which
is
narrated
by
me,
so
you
get
to
hear
me
talk
about
the
dashboard
even
more.
I
think
I've
said
the
word
dashboard
this
year
more
than
I've
ever
said
in
my
life,
so
you
can
watch
it
right
on
here
and
also,
if
there's
some
feedback
or
something
you
want
to
see
measured.
J
That's
not
on
there
or
something
you
find
confusing,
or
any
ideas
that
you
have
to
improve
the
interface.
The
feedback
form
myself
and
another
sergeant
receive
the
feedback
form,
and
we
talk
about
ways
that
we
can
improve
this
interface.
J
So
I
want
to
start
here
with
total
calls
and
arrests.
So
so
far,
up
to
yesterday
august
9th
ipd
has
responded
to
11.91
000
calls
for
service
the
yellow,
our
incidents
that
no
arrest
was
made
and
the
blue
is
incidents
where
there
was
an
arrest,
and
this
does
not
include
traffic
tickets.
So
this
includes
misdemeanor
felonies
and
violation
arrests.
J
Moving
on
to
my
right,
we
have
reported
call
type
next,
that
is
observe,
call
type.
So
the
difference
between
reported
and
observed.
So
let's
say
I'm
working
a
beat
and
I
get
dispatched
to
a
burglary
in
progress.
So
on
my
screen
it
says
I'm
responding
to
a
burglary
I
get
to
the
burglary
and
it
turns
out
it's
just
someone's
teenager
who
forgot
their
keys
and
was
climbing
through
a
window.
J
So
when
I
close
out
that
call,
I
could
change
that
to
something
like
an
assist
citizen
or
a
property
check,
because
what
I
responded
to
wasn't
actually
a
burglary.
Now,
if
I
was
responding
to
a
burglary-
and
I
get
there
in
fact,
there
is
someone
breaking
into
a
house-
my
observed
call
type
would
be
burglary,
so
sometimes
the
reported
call
type
and
the
observed
call
type,
don't
always
match,
because
things
that
are
reported
through
dispatch
aren't
actually
what
we
end
up
responding
to
and
when
we
find
out,
we
have
to
change
that
category.
J
When
we
close
out
the
column
moving
over
a
response.
Location
is
frequent
places
that
we
go
to
are
on
top
and
a
lot
of
different
addresses
in
the
city
where
we've
responded
to
this
year,
so
you
can
see.
Ipd
has
688
calls
for
service
at
that
response,
location.
The
reason
being
is
we
take
a
lot
of
walk-ins
or
if
someone
calls
headquarters
oftentimes
the
response
location
code
in
for
that
call.
Is
the
ithaca
police
department
followed
by
art,
house,
west
village
walmart?
J
If
a
call
happens
at
a
residence,
let's
say,
there's
a
call
that
happens
at
102
college
ave.
That's
going
to
go
down
in
response,
location,
100,
block
of
college
ave
same
thing
with
every
other
street.
If
there's
a
call
at
110
hudson,
it
goes
to
100
hudson.
The
reason
why
this
works
out
so
well
is,
as
far
as
I
know,
and
there
may
be
a
rarity
there's
no
address
in
the
city
that
has
a
100
address,
so
we
were
able
to
use
the
100
block
to
encompass
anything
that
happens
on
that
block.
J
So
you
see
hudson
street.
We
all
know
the
ithaca
college
students
love
to
party
on
hudson
street
we've
been
there
41
times
this
year,
so
moving
down
to
average
daily
patrol
officer
responses.
The
blue
category
is
primary
responses.
The
yellow
category
is
backup
responses.
Right
now,
in
2022,
an
officer
is
responding
to
7.2
calls
a
day.
J
Four
of
them
they're
the
primary
officer
and
3.1,
which
is
an
average,
is
the
amount
of
calls
that
are
a
backup
officer.
So
if
I'm
working
201,
which
is
the
beat
that
covers
primarily
the
south
end
of
the
city,
a
call
to
walmart,
which
falls
in
my
beat,
would
make
me
the
primary
officer.
So
that's
measured
in
the
blue,
but
let's
say
there's
a
call
at
the
dande
mart
on
buffalo.
I
may
get
called
as
a
backup
officer,
because
that
falls
out
of
my
beat.
That's
the
yellow,
so
blue
primary
yellow
is
backup
responses
down.
J
Here
you
can
see
on
2022
the
average
amount
of
officers.
Working
per
shift
is
4.70,
and
then
we
put
our
lead
referrals
on
here
for
the
year.
These
are
lead
referrals
off
of
arrest,
diversions.
These
aren't
lead
referrals
off
of
social
contact
referrals,
maybe
in
some
other
meeting
I'll
be
presiding
on
lead,
which
I
can
get
into
more
about
that
or
if
anyone
has
any
questions
about
the
lead
program,
I
am
the
supervisor
who
oversees
it.
J
J
We
have
total
instant
interactions,
patrol
responses
and
calls
for
service,
so
we're
going
to
start
with
calls
for
service,
because
it's
the
simplest
one
to
explain
a
call
for
service
simply
is
the
amount
of
calls
per
day.
Ip
responds
to
patrol
responses
is
the
amount
of
officers
per
day
that
respond
to
a
call.
J
J
This
is
the
amount
of
times
an
officer
or
an
interaction
or
some
sort
of
follow-up
is
on
a
call.
So
if
there
is
a
large-scale
call
like
a
homicide,
the
total
incident
interactions
are
going
to
be
a
lot
higher
than
say
a
petty
larceny,
because
a
call
that's
as
detailed
and
has
a
lot
of
follow-up
like
a
homicide,
has
follow-ups
investigators
attaching
themselves
to
it.
J
Maybe
other
agencies
coming
in
officers
putting
themselves
back
on
the
call,
maybe
a
few
days
later,
to
collect
video
footage
so
total
total
incident
interactions
is
the
amount
of
follow-up
and
the
amount
of
times
we've
had
to
put
ourselves
back
on
calls
for
incidents.
So
it's
not
independent
incidents.
It's
all
the
times.
We've
done
follow-up
plus
patrol
responses.
J
J
You
could
see
that
there
was
83
calls
for
service
that
day
four
officers
working.
There
was
two
lead
referrals
made
that
day
patrol
responses
were
156
and
then
up
here
after
I
clicked
that
little
dot.
J
It
tells
you
what
kind
of
calls
you
responded
to
that
day.
What
was
reported,
what
was
observed
and
where
we
responded
to
calls.
So
six
of
those
calls
may
have
been
walk-ins
at
the
ithaca
police
department.
We
responded
to
stone
quarry
apartments
four
times
that
day
cbs
three
times,
but
it
breaks
down
why
there
were
83
calls
and
where
we
went
throughout
the
throughout
our
day.
J
J
Let's
say
you
were
worried
about
thefts
in
the
city,
you
want
to
see
where
thefts
were
occurring,
you
could
see.
We
have
689
reported
thefts
by
click,
thefts,
689
were
reported,
572
actually
ended
up
being
a
observed.
Theft
96
took
place
at
walmart,
32
711
and,
as
you
scroll
down,
you
can
see
where
all
the
observed
thefts
took
place
in
the
city
this
year,
and
one
thing
I
did
forget
to
mention
is,
as
you
bring
your
cursor
around
the
dashboard
there's,
what
we
call
tool
tips.
J
J
J
Let's
say
a
citizen
sees
police
cars
at
7-eleven
all
the
time
and
they
want
to
know.
Why
are?
Why
is
ipd
always
at
7-eleven?
What's
going
on
there,
you
can
click
7-11,
you
can
see.
We've
had
157
calls
there
46
involved,
trespassing
that
was
reported,
36
was
observed,
trespassing
and
you
could
just
see
every
call
category
that
we
responded
to
and
observed
at
7
11
for
the
year
of
2022.
J
You
can
see
25
of
those
calls
resulted
in
an
arrest.
157
of
those
calls
at
the
7-eleven
did
not
involve
an
arrest,
so
the
2022
data,
as
far
as
average
officers
per
shift
and
all
our
call
data
that
is
live
and
up
to
date,
but
we
are
working
on
compiling
data
from
previous
years
back
to
2019.,
so
I'm
gonna
go
back
here.
You
can
go
to
filter
menu.
If
you're
curious
about
what
happened
in
2021,
you
can
look
into
that.
J
J
You
could
select
multiple
years
by
holding
down
control.
You
can
even
look
into
what
shift
is
the
busiest.
J
Going
back
to
my
filter
menu,
if
I
want
to
see
what's
going
on
on
the
night
shift,
I
can
click
that,
and
so
far
this
year.
Out
of
all
the
calls
for
service
a
line
or
night
shift,
you
can
see,
has
responded
to
2951
and
you
can
even
look
in
further
and
see
where
they're
going
the
types
of
calls
what's
going
on
day
by
day.
J
J
Excuse
me
2886
calls
of
our
call
total
this
year,
so
I
would
encourage
everyone
to
to
play
around
with
it.
It
takes
a
bit
to
get
used
to,
but
once
you're
used
to
navigating
it,
you
can
get
some
pretty
good
information
and
again
what
it
is
measuring
is
our
staffing
and
and
our
call
types.
G
Sergeant
arseo
is,
is
staffing
like
the
4.7?
Is
that
includes
sergeants
and
lieutenants,
or
just
officers
on
patrol.
J
G
Okay
and
do
does
ipd
use
the
information
about
busiest
times
to
to
adjust
the
the
turnout
of
officers
like,
for
example,
is
there
as
many
officers
on
night
patrol
on
saturday
night
as
there
are
on
tuesday
night.
J
Yeah,
so
we
definitely
look
into
this
when
we
disperse
our
resources
and
we
make
the
schedule
c-line.
The
3-11
shift
is
our
busiest
shift.
So
if
there's
an
odd
number
of
officers
that
we're
placing
on
platoons-
and
when
I
say
platoons-
I
mean
we
have
an
a
platoon
which
is
our
night
shift,
our
b-line
platoon,
which
is
our
b
shift
and
our
c
line
platoon,
which
is
our
evening
shift,
which
we
know
is
the
most
busy.
J
So
if
we're
at
a
point
where
we
need
to
do
eight,
eight
and
nine,
that
extra
officer
will
most
likely
be
placed
on
the
c-line
platoon,
because
we
know
that's
where
most
calls
are
generated
just
like
when
we
run
our
three-beat
system,
where
we're
where
we're
putting
officers,
knowing
what
which
parts
of
the
city
are,
the
busiest.
J
D
Thanks
sergeant
question,
this
is
very
useful
and
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
explore
it.
One
thing
I
was
curious
about
is:
are
these
data
exportable
into
excel
or
some
other
similar
software
that
that
folks,
could
you
know,
manipulate
statistics
with
and
and
get
a
better
understanding.
J
So
in
our
filming
data,
it's
really
easy.
If
I
wanted
to
run
all
the
calls
that
happened
at
wegmans,
I'm
able
to
export
it
and
put
it
in
an
excel
sheet,
so
yeah
we
are
able
to
produce
requests
and
put
them
in
excel
sheets
and
we
were
able
to
do
that
even
before
the
dashboard.
Just
through
our
spillman
system.
G
J
And
also
you
can
even
just
google
city
of
the
community
dashboard
if
you
can't
find
it
and
it
pops
right
up,
it's
very
easy
to
find
cynthia.
I'm
sorry!
If
I
I
skipped
your
hand
before.
H
That's
okay.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
This
is.
This
is
really
helpful.
It's
very
informative!
I
I
like
the
fact
that
it
provides
snapshots
and
time,
but
also
allows
you
to
see
trends
over
time.
So
it's
an
incredibly
powerful
tool
and
I
look
forward
to
to
getting
to
know
it
better.
I
have
two
questions.
H
The
first
is
years
ago.
They
used
to
publish
sort
of
the
call
logs
that
gave
a
little
bit
of
detail
on
types
that
the
types
of
calls
that
were
coming
in
there
would
be
a
short
commentary
of
what
happened.
Is
that
still
available
on
the
ipd
website?.
J
So
there
is
still
an
incident
log
that
we
put
out,
I
believe,
weekly.
If
julia
is
still
around.
I
think
she
knows
a
lot
about
it,
but
that
actually
comes
out
of
my
division.
The
records
division
and
what
that
incident
log
will
show
is
a
narrative.
So
when
officers
do
reports,
there's
narratives
and
there's
supplements.
So
a
narrative,
maybe
officer,
responded
to
a
theft
complaint
at
wegmans
and
the
supplement
report,
which
could
be
foiled,
will
give
you
more
information.
J
B
Okay,
actually,
on
the
ipd
web
page
there,
on
the
left
hand,
side,
there
is
a
list
of
different
pages.
They
have
on
their
site.
There
is
one
called
incident
logs,
and
that
is
where
they
are
being
updated.
The
most
recent
one
we
have
is
august
1st
through
august
2nd,
but
there's
several
a
couple
of
two
years
of
them:
2021
to
2020
to
2022.
H
Thank
you.
That's
helpful
thanks.
So
the
the
second
question
I
had
is
one
of
the
when
I
first
started
interacting
with
spelman
a
decade
ago.
If,
if
I
recall
spillman
is
really
a
dispatch
software,
well,
it's
used
for
dispatch
and
also
used
for
record
keeping.
H
So
you
might
get
a
call
whereby
the
call
is
a
noise
complaint
and
then,
when
you
talk
about
your
observed,
call
type,
you
come
to
find
that
you
know:
there's
a
domestic
dispute,
somebody's
violating
an
order
of
protection
and
now
they're
trespassing
and
they've
broken
into
the
the
unit
and
they're
taking
something
out
of
the
unit
that
they
think
belongs
to
them.
And
you
know
so
a
call
that
starts
as
a
noise
complaint
might
actually
turn
into
five
different
observed
activities.
J
No,
absolutely
that's
that's
a
great
point
and
that's
going
to
be
reflected
as
the
most
severe
call
type.
So
if
we're
dispatched
to
a
noise
complaint-
and
it
ends
up
being
physical,
domestic
with
a
trespass
with
a
criminal
mischief
broken
window,
that
officer
is
gonna
code,
that
out,
as
observed
as
a
physical
domestic,
so.
B
J
You're
right
it
does
go
one-to-one
and
a
lot
of
the
calls
we
go
to.
It
could
be
coded
out
as
10
different
things,
but
it's
going
to
be
coded
out
as
whatever
related
to
that
arrest,
which
would
be
the
domestic
and
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
our
body
camera
and
how
we
keep
footage.
J
H
Yeah
it
does
so,
I
guess
what
then
you're,
recognizing
that
only
the
most
severe
call
type
is
going
to
show
up
under
the
observed.
H
If
we
were
looking
for
an
actual
statistic
of
the
types
of
activities
that
are
actually
happening
in
the
city,
we
might
not
this.
This
actually
doesn't
really
reflect
the
whole
variety
of
activities
that
are
occurring,
and
so
is
there
a
an
annual
report.
I
know
that
there
used
to
be
an
annual
report
that
was
provided
of
all
the
different
incidents
and
it
would
include
that
flushing
out
of
activities,
not
just
the
call
type,
I
think
so
is
there
an
a
summary
of
of
that
somewhere
that
can
be
seen.
J
So
I
believe
in
the
annual
report
as
well,
because
in
spillman
we
can
only
choose
one
observed
field
and
one
rp
code.
It's
still
gonna
have
that
one-to-one
now
for
arrest
data
that
goes
to
the
state
if
we're
making
an
arrest
for
numerous
things,
that'll
be
reflected
through
incident
based
reporting
through
the
state
saying
what
charges
and
what
arrests
were
made
along
with
information
about
the
victim
and
the
suspect.
H
Okay,
so
to
answer
my
question
about
an
actual,
complete
summary
of
activities,
we
that
may
only
be
present
in
the
end
report
is
that
what
you're
saying
but
you're
not
sure
so.
J
No,
I
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
if
we
responded
to
a
call
in
the
encampments,
let's
say,
and
we
observed
littering
criminal
mischief,
theft
and
other
criminal
observations
other
than
physically
other
than
actually
reading
the
officer's
supplement
and
seeing
what
they
observed.
J
H
It
has
been
very,
I
I
feel
like
we
do
as
as
we
sit
here,
and
we
talk
about
the
importance
of
reality-based
data-based
analysis.
H
I
think
we
also
have
to
be
very
very
mindful
that,
although
these
dashboards
are
very
attractive,
it
can
provide
a
very
it's
only
a
sliver
of
a
reflection
of
what's
actually
going
on,
because
it's
built
on
a
system.
That's
not
designed
to
do
this.
It's
always
my
hesitation
when,
when
we
rely
on
dashboards
such
as
this,
because
you
really
need
to
understand
where,
where
this
is
pulling
from
and
what
it
reflects
and
what
it
doesn't
reflect.
J
D
Yeah,
thank
you
and
no
cynthia.
I
share
your
concern
with
the
observables
right.
I
mean
another
piece
of
it.
That's
not
getting
captured
is
incidents
that
may
occur
that
the
police
don't
hear
about
right.
I
mean
and
there's
we're
obviously
bounded
by
the
the
the
data
collection
tools
we
have
right
and
and
in
that
veins
are
gonna
say
I
was
curious.
I'm
sure
the
answer
is
yes,
but
I
take
it
that
there
is
a
hierarchy
of
you
know
you.
D
You
talked
about,
we
code,
these
things
as
sort
of
the
most
severe
incident.
If
there's
multiple
observed
call
types,
I
assume
there's
a
standard
hierarchy
in
that
case
for
like,
if
you
have
two
competing
observed,
call
types
that
it
will
not
be
idiosyncratic
as
to
the
responding
officer
what
they
coded
as
but
it
would
be
okay.
This
is
a
more
severe
you
know,
misdemeanor
or
felony.
So
it's
going
to
be
the
one
that
we
recorded
as
the
the
observed.
D
The
question
is,
I
understand
that
we
record
the
most
severe
of
observed,
call
types
in
the
scenario
that
cynthia
raised
where
there
is
multiple
one
thing
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
in
the
vein
of
her
question
is:
is
the
is
the
rank
ordering
of
those
priorities
or
or
severity?
Is
that
going
to
be
consistent
across
all
officers?
Is
there
a.
J
It's
not
it's
gonna
be
this.
Data
is
based
on
what
the
officer
is
inputting
into
spillman,
so
some
of
it
is
subjective,
especially
when
you
look
at
a
call
like
an
assist
citizen
or
a
welfare
check.
I
could
see
one
officer
classifying
something
as
an
assist
citizen
and
one
officer
classifying
something
as
a
welfare
check,
so
this
data
is
based
on
what
the
officers
in
putting
it
to
spillman
and
what
their
supervisor
is
approving
and
then,
after
that
it
goes
through
a
quality
check
in
the
records
division.
J
So
it's
not
going
to
be
so
inaccurate
that
an
officer
responds
to
a
sex
offense
and
then
codes
it
out
as
a
larceny,
because
it
is
seen
by
two
more
pairs
of
eyes
before
it
goes
into
the
data.
But
there
is
some
subjectivity
to
it,
because
we
don't
have
a
data.
J
Excuse
me
a
data
analyst
position
at
ipd,
some
police
departments-
do,
I
think,
cornell
does.
I
think
binghamton
does
and
that's
one
person
anyone
who's
done.
Data
before
knows
that
data
takes
months
to
collect
months
to
clean
up
and
months
to
produce,
and
I
hear
you
would
be
great
if
the
data
was
100,
but
this
off.
This
is
pretty
good
data
that
we're
getting
off
of
spillman.
It
gives
us
something
to
look
at.
J
It
gives
us
something
to
work
off
of
to
make
improvements,
but
I
hear
you:
if
we
had
a
data
analyst,
it
would
probably
be
completely
clean
data,
but
a
lot
of
this
is
based
off
of
officer
responses.
D
No,
absolutely
I
I
totally
understand
that,
and
just
as
a
quick
follow-up,
could
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
so
I
again
I
understand
like
especially
in
the
things
that
don't
result
in
an
arrest.
I
imagine
there'd
be
greater
subjectivity
there
when
it's
the
the
assist
citizen
or
the
welfare.
I
think
those
are
the
two
examples
you
just
used
right,
but
is
there
a
little
bit
more
of
a
in
your
experience?
Is
there
a
little
bit
more
of
a?
D
Is
there
any
systematic
difference
between
those
that
result
in
arrests
and
how
there's
they're
coded
versus
those
that
are
non-arrests?
I.
J
Mean
there's
there's
codes,
we
have
rp
codes
as
well,
and
that's
like
determined
on
a
felony
is
gonna.
Have
a
different
rp
code
than
a
misdemeanor.
A
violation
is
a
different
rp
code.
A
traffic
offense
with
a
warning
has
a
different
rp
code
than
a
traffic
offense
with
a
ticket
issued.
So
there
are
different
categories,
and
this
is
something
that
I'm
happy
to.
If
you
want
to
talk
about
it
more,
I
can
bring
you
an
example
of
how
we
code
things
out
and
give
you
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
it.
J
G
Very
good
cynthia
can
this
be
the
last
question
on
the
dashboard.
H
J
So
it's
a
ticket,
it
would
be
a
ticket
to
appear.
So
let's
say
I
arrested
you
for
trespass
at
the
7-eleven
and
I
have
the
option
of
just
issuing
you
an
appearance
ticket
on
site
and
telling
you
to
move
along
that
counts
and
total
number
of
rests,
and
so
does.
If
I
arrest
you
for
felony
assault
and
I
bring
you
into
process
you
and
then
you
see
a
judge,
all
that
is
encompassed
in
the
yellow.
F
My
question
is
this:
this
might
not
be
for
mary.
This
dashboard
is,
is
amazing
and
gives
us
a
lot
of
information,
but
I'm
trying
to
connect
the
value
for
re,
reimagining,
public
safety
and
figuring
out.
How
did
this
help
us
to
understand
how
things
are
the
interaction
with?
Maybe
it's
the
lead
program
or
whatever,
but
how
the
interaction
between
ipd
and
community
and
how,
where,
where
would
we
get
that
information
from
how
is
it
changing?
Is
it
not,
or
am
I
at
the
wrong
dashboard.
J
So
this
dashboard
was
created
because
of
a
recommendation
from
for
reimagining
and
other
departments
around
the
country
have
dashboards
that
are
similar
to
this,
and
I
I
understand
what
you're
saying
about
community
interactions
and
community
policing,
which
is
something
we
are
also
working
on,
but
the
benefit
of
this
dashboard
is
we
could
see.
We
have
some
transparency
of
where
the
ithaca
police
department
is
getting
called
to.
J
So
if,
last
week
you
saw
10
cop
cars
at
the
saint
johnson,
you
wouldn't
see
time
because
we
wouldn't
have
fun
on.
But
if
you
saw
a
lot
of
cop
cars
at
the
st
john
center,
you
have
the
opportunity
to
go
on
here:
click
st
john
center
and
figure
out
what
type
of
call
was
going
on
there.
So
it
really
does
provide
the
types
of
transparency
that
I
believe
reimagining.
Some
of
what
reimagining
was
asking
for
the
amount
of
arrests
that
we
make.
J
You
can
see
the
amount
of
traffic
tickets
that
we're
issuing
a
year.
The
amount
of
traffic
stops
we're
making
and
you
could
just
see
crime
trends
in
the
city
and
by
seeing
crime
trends
in
the
city.
J
If
you
look
at
assist
citizen,
I
think
there's
a
category
for
assisting
another
agency
like
mental
health
or
responding
to
a
welfare
check.
It
may
show
that
we
don't
have
enough
mental
mental
health
resources,
because
ipd
officers
are
responding
to
mental
health.
Calls.
Okay,.
G
Sergeant
I
have,
I
have
one
other
question.
One
of
the
things
reimagining
wanted
to
study
and
find
out
about
was
involved,
traffic
stops
and
and
if
there's
an
inordinate
amount
of
traffic
stops
for
people
of
color,
is
there
a
way
that
ipd
keeps
track
of
that.
J
J
It
doesn't
list
race
and
ethnicity
and
on
a
traffic,
stop
if
an
officer,
for
example,
is
issuing
a
warning
following
that
or
even
issuing
a
ticket
the
officer
most
times,
if
not
all
times
is
not
going
to
ask
the
person
they
pulled
over
what
their
race
and
ethnicity
is.
J
Sorry,
I
that
has
been
a
conversation
we've
been
having
here,
because
it
is
important
data
and
I
know
it's
something
that
we
want
measured.
But
if
anyone
has
any
data
people
out
there
have
any
ideas
of
how
we
could
collect
that
you
can
submit
it
in
the
feedback
on
this
dashboard
or
we're
always
looking
for
people
to
collaborate
with
to
find
some
solutions.
G
A
side
question
and
then
I'll,
then
I'll
really
shut
up
all
right.
Do
we
do
we
have
data
that
shows
where
the
most
traffic
stops
are
being
made
and
what
kind
of
traffic
stops
etc.
J
G
J
There
was
675
traffic
offenses
that
were
reported.
530
of
those
resulted
in
a
warning.
117
resulted
in
a
ticket
issued
nine
dwi
arrests
and
when
we
down
here
to
someone
was
confused,
that
means
they
pulled
over
someone
who
had
a
warrant.
So
three
of
those
resulted
in
a
warrant
arrest,
so
going
back
to
cynthia's
point,
because
a
warrant
would
be
looked
at
as
more
severe
than
a
traffic
violation.
J
It
was
coded
out
as
a
warrant
arrest
19
of
those
were
at
north
meadow
and
3rd
street,
and
I
think
that
is
because
we
have
an
officer
here
who
does
truck
inspections
and
he
may
have
been
stationed
there.
Then
you
have
hector
and
sunrise,
and
you
can
see
where
all
the
traffic
stops
are
being
done
in
the
city.
So,
yes,
you
could
find
that
data
on
the
dashboard,
but
it
doesn't
say
what
people
were
stopped
for
or
what
they
were
cited
for.
J
J
J
Yeah
no
thank
you
for
having
me
and
if
you
have
any
follow-up
questions,
please
do
not
hesitate
to
email
me
and
I'll.
Try
my
best
to
get
you
an
answer.
J
A
Before
you
go
yes,
sorry
for
jumping
in
but
sergeant
sayo,
would
you
mind
saying
a
few
words
about
the
about
lex
paul
and
the
training
component?
That's
involved.
Are
you
able
to
comment
on
that,
or
should
we
come
back
to
that.
J
So
we
now
are
getting
a
software
system
called
lexapol
which
will
have
all
our
policies
on
it
for
officers
to
review.
Part
of
that
is.
We
also
have
the
ability
to
do
virtual
trainings,
which
is
great
because
the
more
trainings
officer
can
get
officers
can
get
the
better
officers.
We're
going
to
be
another
cool
thing
about
lexical
is
there's
actually
quizzes
that
we
could
take
to
help
us
know
the
policy
better
and
understand
what
our
policies
and
procedures
are.
J
We
haven't
quite
100
percent
launch
it
and
put
policies
on
it,
but
I
know
that
is
coming
in
the
very
near
future.
So
it's
it's
going
to
be
exciting
to
have
all
our
policies
in
one
place,
as
opposed
to
some
police
departments.
Have
it
in
an
old
paper
binder
and
we
are
moving
to
having
it
digitally,
which
is
going
to
be
very
good
for
officers
to
access.
A
J
And
this
will
help
us
with
department
accreditation,
which
is
a
goal
of
ours.
G
Okay,
I
don't
have
the
agenda
in
front
of
me
because
it's
not
on
my
screen.
Do
we
have
any
other
things
on
the
agenda.
G
A
talk
with
the
d.a
we're
going
to
try
to
arrange
a
presentation
by
the
group
from
rochester
we're
going
to
try
to
put
together.
G
A
few
civilians
to
make
recommendations
about
training
of
ipd
officers
and
what
reimagining
means.
G
I'm
actually,
you
know
one
person,
I'm
gonna
talk
to
is
beau
saul,
who
put
together
a
pretty
successful
community
policing
program
20
years
ago.
More
than
that
25
years
ago,.
G
Duck
help
me
focus
on
what
our
next
step
should
be.
G
H
As
we
talk
about
hearing
from
the
district
attorney
about
the
same
time,
we
also
received
a
very
good
letter
from
I
believe.
Her
name
is
heather
campbell
who's,
the
head
of
the
advocacy
center,
and
we.
G
H
Who
also
you
know,
expressed
desire
to
provide
input
from
a
victim
standpoint
and
the
importance
of
having
that
first
interaction
with
a
victim
who
may
at
some
point
hope
to
press
charges
and
making
sure
that
the
individuals
responding
are
are
able
to
not
only
provide
support
but
not
in
any
way
hinder
the
process
if,
if
desired,
to
pursue
charges
as
the
from
the
individual.
So
it
would
be
good
to
invite
the
advocacy
center
to
speak
as
well,
along
with
the
district
attorney.
F
G
F
I
wanna
okay,
I
wanna
know.
Why
is
that
an
excellent
point
and
what
you
know,
if
that's
the
case
we
should
we
could
bring.
We
can
bring
individuals
from
many
different
organizations
about
you,
know,
treatment
of
I'm
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
and
make
make
me
clear.
Why
do
we
need
victims
to.
G
I
think
and
cynthia
can
comment,
if
I'm
not
interpreting
this
correctly,
but
we're
talking
about
how
ipd
responds
to
people
who
are
in
a
crisis
situation.
H
When
we,
when
we
talk
about
coming
forward
with,
you,
know,
alternative
responses
to
calls,
I
think
for
me-
and
I
know
part
of
phoebe's
question
is
like
what
does
this
mean
to
all
of
us?
What
is
the
definition
of
of
what
we're
trying
to
do,
and
and
for
those
of
you
who
have
worked
in
in
groups
that
I've
I've
chaired?
Like
my
first
question
that
I
asked
to
all
of
the
members
of
my
group,
is
you
know
what
does
success?
H
H
I
want
to
see
a
proportionate
and
appropriate
response
of
policing
and
the
community
to
various
incidents
and
right
now,
societally.
We
have
underfunded
mental
health.
We
have
underfunded
human
services,
we
have
underfunded
a
variety
of
of
programs,
and
now
the
only
response
is
a
police
response
right,
and
so
how
do
we
dial
that
back
and
redirect
appropriate
services
so
that
the
only
response
so
that
it's
not
just
a
police
response?
So
and
that's
in
my
mind,
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
I?
How
do
we
provide
an
appropriate
response?
H
You
know
I
I
do
intend
that
we
will
hold
individuals
responsible
and
accountable
for
that
action,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
accidentally
go
too
far
in
one
direction
so
that
we
miss
the
opportunities
to
actually
press
charges
or
or
achieve
a
conviction
where
one
is
truly
deserved
right,
and
so
that
is
why
I
think
from
a
victim
standpoint.
H
We
need
to
be
mindful
that,
because
I
know
that
the
first
time
you're
on
site
with
somebody
who
has
had
a
very
traumatic
experience,
there's
evidence
all
around
the
comments
and
the
information
they
provide
in
that.
H
First
blush
of
what
happened,
all
of
that
needs
to
be
collected
carefully
in
order
to
build
a
case,
and
I
think
we've
all
heard
of
situations
where
you
have
people
without
proper
training
coming
in
into
a
scene,
not
registering
how
they
need
to
care
for
the
scene
carefully
and
then
a
conviction
can
never
be
brought
because
the
evidence
is
lost.
The
testimony
has
now
been
contaminated
because
they've
talked
to
all
these
different
people
right.
H
It's
that
first
moment
where
it's
really
critical
to
get
it
right
and
so
we're
walking
in
my
mind,
walking
this
very
careful
line
of
wanting
to
make
sure
we're
not
providing
a
disproportionate
response,
we're
not
just
sending
police
to
places
that
they
that
other
responses
are
more
appropriate.
But
at
the
same
time
we
don't
want
to
lose
our
overall
goal
of
protecting
victims,
holding
individuals
accountable
and
being
able
to
to
convict
or
prosecute
as
as
needed.
And
so
that's
why.
I
think
it's
important
to
balance
and
and
receive
those
voices
too.
G
G
Loud
noise
really
loud
noise
as
an
arrest
as
a
warrant,
is
being
served
at
a
house,
usually
in
the
dark
just
before
daylight,
and
one
unfortunate
side
effect
of
that
is,
if
there
are
children
in
the
house
and
and
children,
get
get
scared,
hugely
scared
and
any
other
non
person
who's
not
getting
arrested,
family
member,
etc.
G
And
that's
one
thing
I
think
we
need
to
reimagine.
So
maybe
that
can
be
part
of
our
our
study.
H
I
I
don't
know,
and
it's
unfortunate
that
sergeant
orsayo
is
not
here.
I
believe
that
there
was
a
discussion
of
suspending,
what's
called
a
no
knock.
H
Is
it
a
no
knock
warrant,
something
like
that,
especially
for
drug
investigations?
I
thought
that
was
a
city
and
county
policy
change
that
had
come
out
of
reimagining
public
safety.
C
H
You
george
I'm
very
unhappy
with
the
use
of
that
tactic
and
I'm
I
was
grateful
to
hear
that
news,
but
I
don't
know
it
for
sure.
G
Yeah,
I
could
just
be
ignorant
on
that,
so,
but
still
I'd
like
to
know
how
ipd
handles
children
when
they're
making
arrests.
D
Rob
thanks,
georgia.
I
I
believe
cynthia
you
are
correct-
that
srt
stopped
serving
the
no
knocks
in
in
may
of
last
year,
but
I
can
confirm
that,
but
that
comment
about
children.
George
also
reminded
me
of
a
question
that
you
asked
the
sergeant
when
she
was
still
here
about
I.
D
I
would
be
interested
in
also
seeing
a
way
that
we
could
be
very
sort
of
diligent,
respectful
and
how
we
might
collect
information
about
racial
disparity
and
traffic
stops,
which
you
raised
as
a
question
to
her,
and
I
understand
that
maybe
I
ipd
doesn't
have
the
capacity
to
to
report
on
those
those
data
right
now,
but
I
do
think
it's.
I
thought
that
was
a
really
good
question
and
I
think
it's
worth
you
know
looking
into
that
further
as
well.
H
Yeah,
I
I
I
do
think
that
that
is
a
a
very
good
discussion
to
have
when
we
talk
about
again
wanting
to
have
a
data-driven
understanding
of
our
situation.
H
H
I
put
forward
a
policy
that
police
officers
should
not
ask
individuals
of
their
citizenship
status,
because
the
mere
asking
of
that
information
can
be
considered,
threatening
or
harassing
to
the
individual.
H
So
I
think
we
also
need
to
be
mindful
psychologically
about
the
impact
of
an
officer
asking
about
an
individual's
race
or
or
identity,
or
you
know
how
do
they
identify?
There
might
be
some
kind
of
study.
That's
been
done
on
this.
I
don't
think
this
is
something
that
we
can
blindly
go
into.
I
think
it
has
to
be
very
thoughtfully
done.
You
know.
I
also
recognize
that
how
individuals,
self-identify
and
how
other
people
perceive
them
are
two
different
things.
So
it'll
also
require
a
fair
bit
of
of
training
on
the
individual.
H
You
know
to
identify
you
know,
so
I
I
think
we
get
into
some
really
sticky
concepts
here,
which
may
be
a
reason
why
it
is
something
that
is
not
being
tracked
at
this
time,
because
we
don't
have
the
foundational
skill
set
to
to
have
consistent
data
as
to
what
mary
mentioned
earlier.
With
regards
to
how
calls
are
identified
right,
there
needs
to
be
consistency
across
the
board.
Otherwise,
the
data
is
not
going
to
be
helpful.
G
One
thing
I
would
like
to
do
is
keep
our
meetings
definitely
under
two
hours,
but
hopefully
at
about
an
hour
and
a
half,
and
so,
if
there's
nothing
else,
that's
pressing.
G
G
G
G
So
you
know
you
don't
have
to
do
it
right
away,
but
start
thinking
about
what
you're
going
to
wear
next
month.
Remember:
dress
to
wound,
not
to
kill.