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C
Thank
you.
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board
of
adjustment
meetings
are
quasi-judicial
in
nature.
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decisions
of
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board
will
be
based
on
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on
the
side
table
by
the
door
and
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them
into
the
clerk.
Each
member
of
the
public
will
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak
on
each
item.
C
Please
refrain
from
speaking
from
the
audience
and
Applause
or
cheering
will
not
be
allowed,
and,
lastly,
please
silence
your
cell
phones.
Moving
on
to
approval
of
minutes.
We
actually
have
both
of
the
May
meeting
minutes
to
approve.
So
if
everybody's
had
a
chance
to
do
so
or
to
review,
I
would
entertain
a
motion.
D
E
C
D
C
B
C
Thank
you
if
you
wouldn't
mind
just
providing
a
summary
of
your
request
and
then
any
information
that
you
have
since
the
last
time
you
came
before
our
board
sure
happy.
F
Too,
thank
you.
So
when
I
first
met
this
particular
motion,
I
spelled
off,
in
addition
to
the
explanations
and
parents,
application
had
been
discussed
and
what
I
experienced
was
a
momentum
of
yeses
and
then
some
pause
towards
the
end
when
the
board
was
discussing
it.
So
in
that,
since
that
last
meeting
you
know
it
was,
let's
go
around
to
the
neighbors
talk
to
them
and.
G
F
About
getting
ground
leases
and
that
kind
of
stuff
a
lot
of
talking
to
Christian
recently,
and
it
seems
like
I,
think
maybe
revisiting
the
idea
and
having
a
visual
with
it,
having
a
conversation
before
getting
so
ingratiated
to
request
that
kind
of
demand.
That
demand
is
such
a
strong
word,
but
making.
F
One
of
the
things
I
was
thinking
about
maybe
proposing
is
rather
than
doing
a
two-story
Edition,
perhaps
doing
a
one
story,
and
so
that
way
the
request
isn't
as
big
and
burdensome
on
the
board
from
a
variance
perspective
and
then
to
kind
of
put
a
visual
to
that.
So
where
the
Red
Arrows
is
the
business
building.
F
That
that
is
not
a
high
property
that
that's
business,
property
or
city
property.
So
I've
officially
got
six,
that's
Facing
East
towards
the
ocean.
The
requirement
at
hand
would
be
if
I
effectively
doubled
the
building
by
sizing
it
one
extra
story:
I'll
have
to
double
the
part,
so
the
request
would
be.
Could
I
potentially
use
the
six
spots
that
are
on
11th
Street
as
those
six
spots
to
qualify
for
the
parking
for
the
second
G
stability?
F
We've
also
got
two
spots
that
are
in
the
front
of
the
building
in
each
of
those.
Eight
slots
are
all
used
primarily
by
tax
advantage,
customers
to
help
add
some
color
to
that.
If
we
look
at
the
commercial
buildings
around
the
area
directly
across
a1as,
a
Veterinary
Clinic
to
the
diagonal
of
left,
if
you're
facing
A1A
are
basically
a
tattoo
shop
and
a
smoke
shop
directly
across
11th
Street
is
actually
applied.
F
Online
I've
seen
a
client
of
mine
in
each
of
these
meetings
all
have
a
adequate
parking
relative
to
the
number
of
office
spaces
and
the
type
of
commercial
business
that
they
run
to
the
east
side
of
me
as
a
chiropractor.
F
Then
you've
got
residential
condominiums
that
have
plenty
of
parking
and
I
mean
I,
know,
that's
very
opinion
driven,
but
just
what
I'm
trying
to
communicate
is
that
I
understand
rules,
I
respect
rules
and
I'm,
not
trying
to
paint
a
picture
of
anything.
That's
flavored,
egregious
or
nefarious
outside
of
some
kind
of
crazy
request.
I
try
to
build
data
around
the
reason
why
I
think
it
is
a
rational
and
a
relatively
decent
request.
F
F
So
the
request
being
asked
is
effectively
the
way
that
the
parking
lots
are
being
reused
for
the
business
right
now
would
essentially
stay
the
same.
There's
only
tax
advantage,
customers
that
Park
in
those
12
spots
since
we've
had
these
meetings,
I've
monitored
it
I've,
analyzed
all
of
the
tax
returns
that
get
dropped
off
versus
the
tax
returns
that
actually
come
in
for
appointments.
F
I've,
analyzed
all
the
data
that
person
recommended
that
I,
analyzed
and
I
would
stand
here
in
good
faith,
saying
that
the
request
is
not
like
an
unreasonable
request
by
any
suggestion,
imagination
if
I
was
to
go
perhaps
and
negotiate.
If
maybe
we
just
built
up
one
floor
instead
of
two
I
think
two
may
have
been
a
little
bit
on
the
optimistic
side
of
a
request
because
of
the
fact
that
it
wouldn't
have
eaten
up
those
other
six
bases
and
then
potentially
two
other
spaces.
F
I
promise
you
that
I've
only
seen
one
other
person
Park
in
those
parking
spaces?
And
it
was
a
lady
on
the
weekend
who
had
broke
down
in
a
sprinkler
bin
and
needed
an
actual
tow
truck
everybody
else.
That's
ever
parked
there
I've
always
seen
that
their
tax
advantage
customers
and
my
not
my
employees,
but
our
team
member
used
the
Backspaces
pretty
regularly
sometimes
we'll
park,
homicide
but
he's
kind
of
in
and
out
real
quick.
F
So
you
know
I
respect
rules,
I,
appreciate
roles,
I,
think
they're
in
a
good
place
for
good
reason,
I
think
left
to
the
human
element.
People
would
exploit
them.
They
would
take
advantage
of
it
for
learning
self-centered
desires.
You
know
so
I'm
trying
to
be
honorable
and
respected
in
that,
but
also
seeing
that
often
at
life,
there's
some
room
for
discussion
and
negotiation
as
well
and
I
can't
be
requesting
that.
Maybe
we
could
have
that
conversation
being.
F
Jacksonville
Beach
has
been
one
of
my
lifelong
things.
I
was
able
to
fulfill
that
in
2019.
This
business
is
at
the
next
chapter,
where
we
do
need
to
do
something
as
far
as
the
space
and
capacity.
Even
if
it's
just
storage
I
want
to
stay
in
Jacksonville
Beach,
like
I
mentioned
every
one
of
these
board
means
that
our
density
discusses
with
you
all
there's
been
a
client
of
ours.
That's
in
this
building
we
serve
as
the
local
community.
F
The
reason
that
we
want
to
stay
there
is
because
we
are
part
of
the
staple
of
Jacksonville
Beach
we've
been
here
for
a
very
long
time.
I
did
explore
other
options
to
show
you
that
I'm
operating
in
good
faith,
the
only
other
option
that
I
could
potentially
see
that's
on
the
east
side
of
A1A
is
basically
right.
Next
to
Hillegas
chip,
they
can
vote.
I
have
a
very
deep
River,
it's
from
Mr
Hillegas.
What
we've
done
for
this
community
he's
a
CPA.
F
The
high
aspire
to
be
is
a
young
adult,
CPA
I
think
it
would
be
a
little
bit
tasteless
and
on
gentlemen
like
to
move
another
CPA
business
directly
next
door
to
his
so
from
a
commercial
respect,
perspective
I
think
the
locations
of
our
particular
practices
are
spaced
out
adequately
as
it
is
it's
so
it
would
render
in
its
current
state
I,
either
relocate
out
of
Jacksonville
Florida
or
not
Jacksonville
Florida,
but
Jacksonville
Beach,
or
just
do
some
construction
to
try
to
optimize
the
space
and
continue
into
the
next
chapter
of
the
business
is
basically
where
I'm
at
so
I.
F
Don't
have
a
bunch
of
ground
leases
that
I
can
put
in
front
of
you.
I,
don't
have
a
bunch
of
things
that
I
could
do
to
like.
You
know,
strengthen
the
case,
but
I
just
felt
like
having
a
visual
next
to
what
was
being
requested,
may
help
paint
a
picture
that
I'm
also
not
doing
something,
that's
Overland
and
reasonable,
or
irrational
request
by
any
information
further.
F
If
it's
okay,
I
apologize,
I,
don't
want
to
grab
all
too
much,
but
my
understanding
is
that
there
are
some
movements
that
perhaps
they
will
eclipse
in
2024,
where
I
think
the
heart
and
the
spirit
of
where
Jacksonville
Beach
was
going
is
to
help
try
to
navigate
this
wording
correctly.
But
in
exchange
for
like
upkeep
Landscaping,
respecting
the
property,
the
variances
or
the
parking
requirements
are
essentially
going
to
be
a
little
bit
on
the
lighter
side,
as
time
goes
by.
F
That's
a
great
question:
I
also
mapped
that
out
for
you.
If
this
conversation
isn't
stopped
a
memory,
it's
pretty
I
did
an
executive
summary
in
addition
to
the
variance
application.
I
think
Christian
has
a
copy
as
well.
There's
myself,
tealy
Brianne
works
from
home
remotely
all
but
two
days
a
week,
Kevin
and
that's
it
right
now.
F
So
we've
got
a
bunch
of
storage
because
I
the
The
Jetsons
and
The
Flintstones
kind
of
existed
under
the
same
route
for
a
little
while,
where
I
bought
a
business
from
a
legacy
CPA
to
a
very
paper
driven,
they
were
paying
their
people
by
hand
checks
all
of
them,
totally
respect
that
kind
of
move
a
little
bit
more
into
the
digital
age,
where
we
are
from
a
licensure
insurance
and
Regulatory
Compliance
I.
Guess
the
we're
required
to
keep
a
bunch
of
files
for
a
long
time.
It
would
be
very
expensive
to
turn
all
that
digital.
F
J
F
C
So
my
question
is
and
I
remember
that
conversation
back
then
I
think
at
least
a
concern
of
mine,
and
maybe,
if
some
of
my
fellow
board
members
was,
if
you
have
three
to
four
employees
there
on
a
daily
basis-
and
you
have
six
on-site
parking
spots
now
that
you
have
made
it
through
busy
season
and
I
know.
You
did
summarize
this
for
us
already.
So
I
apologize.
F
Yeah
absolutely
and
I
appreciate
you
want
the
clarification
for
that,
because
I
realized
my
passion
made
of
like
skipped
over
that
and
not
touched
on
it
as
deeply
as
I
could
have.
But
I
took
the
data
as
an
accountant
right
and
noticed
that
if
you
think
about
the
tax
serving
professionals
that
are
in
the
building
I'll
be
you
mentioned,
okay,
we'll
call
it
four
people
three
days
a
week.
Two
of
those
are
clerical
front
office.
One
of
them
is
bookkeeper,
which
is
primarily
remote
and
then
there's
two
tax
serving
professionals.
F
So
out
of
Maximum,
you
would
have
two
people
in
a
meeting
at
a
time.
The
two
correct
tax
professionals
on
the
early
bird
he's
the
night
out
so
from
a
meetings
perspective,
taking
all
the
various
stuff
off
the
table,
all
departments
step
off
the
table
just
to
culturally
align
people
to
a
partnership
in
one
business,
I
get
in
there
super
early
I
start
my
meeting
super
early
and
I've
done
all
my
meetings
by
launch.
F
He
starts
his
meetings
after
lunch,
so
assuming
they
both
overlapped,
you
would
have
at
a
maximum
two
people
holding
a
tax
meeting.
At
the
same
time,
at
any
given
time,
then,
let's
just
say
one
or
two
people
are
coming
in
just
in
a
busy
time.
In
the
middle
of
the
day,
one
or
two
people
are
coming
in
to
pick
up
their
tax
returns
that
have
been
completed
and
signed
form
they're
just
in
they
pay
they
sign,
they
ask
whatever
questions
they
have
and
then
they
go
out.
F
So
the
odds
of
there
being
parking
capacity
in
the
current
situation
are
pretty
slim
and
I
feel
as
though
there
wasn't
preparer
that
was
there.
When
I
had
this
initial.
I
K
E
Story,
you
couldn't
necessarily
limit
into
one
additional
story
from
a
hype
perspective,
but
the
parking
is
immediately
tied
to
the
use
of
just
having
the
square
footage
so
right
now
the
original
proposal
was
to
put
a
second
floor
of
additional
office.
F
As
he's
been
trying
to
you
know,
teach
me
the
reasons
for
a
lot
of
these
things.
Systemically
I
said
why
won't
you
just
sell
me
the
spaces,
you
know
I'm
willing
to
pay
for
them.
I
mean
I
know,
but
he
said
they
could
get
into
a
lot
of
red
tape
and
put
it
shortly
right,
but
I
mean
a
thousand
circumstances.
There's
also
plenty
of
spaces
over
in
the
chiropractor's
office.
F
Mr
tender
and
I've
had
pretty
womanless
conversations
with
him
and
he's
pretty
willing
to
help
out
in
a
lot
of
areas,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
know
I'm
not
huge
on
imposing
on
people
or
neighborhood
businesses,
either
they'll
probably
be
in
the
back
of
their
mind.
Liability
concerns
that
you
can
park
normal
property
with
you
slip
and
fall.
You
know
just
I
feel
like
that
would
be
the
most
Limitless
blast
forward.
If
it's
something
that
can
be
sold,
it'd
be
more
than
happy
to
divide
it.
I.
D
D
F
D
F
D
G
F
Meet
I
don't
know
that
we
would
be
an
economic
position
to
have
any
have
any
growth
in
that
area,
but
I
mean
if
we're
talking
within
the
next
36
to
48
months.
Only
two
employees
comes
to
mind.
I
think
it's
about
just
giving
the
current
employee
base
more
room
to
breathe
and
also
the
most
storage
perspective
yeah.
F
D
F
D
F
Of
them
is
a
client
and
they
said
that
they
would
but
I'll
be
honest.
I've
tried
to
reach
out
a
couple
of
times
since
then
without
button
up
against
the
brink
of
the
past
year
or
going
and
I
haven't
heard
anything
back
from
them
now
from
a
full
transparency
perspective.
The
client
was
a
tax
advantage
client,
but
the
gentleman
had
absolutely
had
an
interesting
situation.
He
was
servicing
them,
so
it'll
continue
to
be
clients
for.
E
L
L
Saying
shows:
six
I
don't
see
a
revised
plan,
I,
don't
know
how
to
get
six
with
an
AV
spot.
So
technically,
if
we
allow
this,
how
are
you
getting
six?
Would
you
have
to
put
an
ADA
spot
in
that
spot
so
right
there
just
update
the
parking
thing.
Yeah
you're
falling
out
of
compliance
from
the
current
building.
Is
that
correct.
F
L
South
Side
building
but
I,
don't
see
it
on
the
rendering
on
the
planned
here
but
because
you
said
it's
outside
of
building
through
Ada
and
again,
it's
historic
doesn't
work
forward
in
the
NBA
anymore,
especially
if
you're
renovating
a
build
business
to
bring
up
to
88
complaints
about
requirements.
It's.
F
E
So
it's
not
really
clear
in
the
aerial
here
they
do
have
six
spaces
striked.
But
if
you
look
at
the
survey,
there's
actually
quite
a
bit
of
room
right
here
and
I
think
it's
somewhere
around
the
neighborhood
of
10
feet.
So
if
they
had
an
additional
9
or
10
feet
there,
even
if
it's
five
really
they
could
convert
that
extra
space
into
an
ADA
space
unlikely.
It
would
be
this
one
as
opposed.
E
Can
I
ask
the
help
to
the
question
yeah?
If
you
did
a
second
floor,
would
it
just
be
office,
or
is
he
intend
to
still
do
half
of
it
as
a
residential
unit?
No
just
just
okay.
F
It's
more
of
like
Hey
we're
gonna
do
one.
Is
it
possible
that
we
can
add
that
on
and
I
think
it's
like?
Maybe
that's
part
of
what
the
hang
up
is
and
getting
aboard
the
floor
or
anything
because,
like
I
said
it
went
back
to
a
lot
of
people
were
on
board
and
into
a
really
long
conversation
that
I
didn't
understand.
E
C
And
this
is
obviously
a
special
circumstance
because
his
second
floor
by
nature
of
his
business,
he
would
have
to
accommodate
six
spaces.
But,
as
we
know
it,
kind
of
General
plan
is
not
to
double
the
size
of
his
business.
Necessarily
he
wants
to
use
it
for
storage.
So
if
we
were
to
consider
a
motion
to
approve
six
spaces
and
move
12,
could
we
condition
it
to
be
tied
to
his
business,
specifically
in.
E
M
L
You
have
to
disclose
that
during
the
sale.
Is
that
something
that,
after
somebody,
that
requires
the
property
before
they
can
open,
they
would
have
to
come
back
to
the
board.
To
get
the
same
variance.
I
mean
this
parking
balance
in
pretty
structural
in
nature.
They
would
already
have
the
building
and
not
be
able
to
use
it.
L
E
In
essence,
if
there
was
an
existing
variance
that
was
tied
to
I
would
say
in
this
case
either
the
specific
type
of
business
or
the
business
itself,
it
wouldn't
run
with
the
land.
So
it
would
be
something
that
somebody
else
came
in.
They
would
have
to
face
another
department
demand
based
on
their
views,
either
Sega
new
areas
or
put
in
a
lesser,
intense
use
in
that
location.
E
C
C
D
Make
a
motion
to
approve
boa
22-1092
conditioned
conditioned
on
the
use
of
the
building
as
a
tax,
preparation,
office
and
or
CPA
office,
based
on
the
testimony
it
evidence,
provided
the
request
is
met
on
the
standards
for
variances
outlined
in
section
34-286,
the
Land
Development.
N
E
Well,
I
think
the
the
relief
you
were
granting
initially
was
for
14,
based
on
the
proposal
of
two
different
uses.
I
think
it's
probably
you
know
it
ties
him
to
just
the
commercial
use
or
only
allocating
that
space.
For
that
second
story
or
something
along
this
line.
Excuse
me
so
I
I
mean
I
think
it
makes
sense
because
it
it
is
a
woman
that
he's
proposed
by
reducing
the
size
of
the
structure.
C
So
the
Matt's
motion
is.
C
L
C
E
C
D
C
B
O
Oh
yeah
we're
looking
at
an
addition
on
and
as
the
as
conditions
were
laid
out
in
the
analysis
the
staff
did,
and
there
were.
There
were
some
things
that
seemed
to
be
followed
with
being
alignment
from
when
it
was
built
back
in
the
early
90s.
O
So
I
did
read,
I
didn't
read
through
that
I
saw
the
staff
recommendation
and
we
certainly
are
miserable
to
to
to
look
into
to
get
back
closer
to
the
38
with
newest
parts
of
materials.
C
L
L
E
It
doesn't
do
the
chair
I
at
least
what
General
is
referring
to
is
the
existing
house
is
built
behind
the
30-foot
setback
right
to
the
rear,
and
it's
currently
at
38,
lock,
Network.
L
C
O
Guess
that
my
next
door
neighbor
one
of
my
next
one
apron.
C
Any
other
questions
all
right
hearing-
none
you
can
be
seated
for
now
and
I
will
open
the
public
hearing.
Do
we
have
any
speakers
cards.
D
We
have
speaker
spark
and
we
have
an
email.
D
Let's
do
the
speakers.
I
have
Earl.
B
P
Q
Q
You
know
the
the
easement
behind
us,
even
though
it's
you
know
everything
drains
into
that.
So
his
neighbor
to
the
west
of
him
made
an
addiction
as
well.
Did
an
audition
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
whatever
ground
that
this,
these
improvements
are
going
to
take
up,
aren't
going
to
hinder
or
cause
more
flooding
problems.
Q
I,
don't
know
if
they
will
I
know
they're,
seeing
the
restrictions
here.
So,
but
that's
what
I
was
I
just
want
to
be
doing
right
for
this
saying
that
that's
a
it's
a
very
sensitive
area
and
I
have
foreign
I
spent
over
fifty
thousand
dollars
just
trying
to
for
flood
mitigation
in
my
backyard
so
that
it's
really
important.
It's
a
sense
of
the
issue
not
only
to
me
but
every
home
that
it
runs
right
behind
their
property.
G
Q
A
C
Sorry
really
quickly,
sorry,
so
you're
welcome
to
come
up
when
he's
finished
and
you
can
be
sworn
in
and
make
your
comments
he's
still
on
the
clock.
He's
got
another.
Q
B
A
Okay,
right
behind
our
house
is
a
ditch
that
is
supposed
to
be
well,
it
doesn't
flow
anymore,
it's
stuck
and
nobody
cleans
it
out
the
city
used
to
that.
They
don't
do
that
anymore.
They
say
no
that
belongs
to
your
neighborhood.
A
That
is
our
main
problem.
Why
it
floods
I
mean
one
of
the
problems
whatever
neighborhood
has
tried
always
help
from
people
that
know
how
to
do
this
with
the
lakes
that
we
have
in
there
they've
got
things
to
stop.
You
know
yeah,
I'm,
so
high
and
just
done
all
sorts
of
stuff,
and
this
last
flood
that
we
had
I
think
it
was
in
September
October.
A
We
had
just
put
all
the
new
saw
down
and
the
stuff
that
we
did
to
build
up
our
yard,
our
backyard
flooded.
It
came
right
up
to
the
house
that
it
did
not
come
in
and
that's
the
big
thing
you
know
we
don't
have
to
come
in.
It
came
in
back
with
and
in
2016,
and
we
had
to
move
for
two
years.
So
it's
just
you
know
it's
a
major
major
thing.
C
C
M
Evans
Drive
South,
so
I'm
currently
to
be
east
of
their
house
on
the
house
that
in
the
other
picture,
you
could
actually
see
the
driveway
next
to
it
and
to
the
unlocked
I'm
going
to
told
my
wife
and
I
exactly
what
their
plans
were,
and
you
know
based
on
the
size
of
the
loss
and
the
pictures.
M
Don't
actually
really
give
you
an
idea,
they're
actually
far
larger
than
most
Lots
here
in
Jax
Beach,
compared
to
where
I
previously
lived,
where
we
had
an
exception,
where
we
actually
have
a
Florida
room
that
went
right
up
to
the
property
line
itself
and
was
approved
by
a
neighbor
even
with
their
addition,
there's
probably
40
or
50
feet
between
their
house
and
our
house,
where
their
dish
would
actually
end
up
bad,
which
you
can
see
our
house
in
that
picture
other
than
that.
M
Mike
and
G
were
actually
out
of
town
at
the
time
and
didn't
actually
see
how
much
flooding
happened
at
that
particular
time
to
their
property
and
I
can
tell
you
that,
where
their
house
is
and
where
the
addition
is,
there
was
no
flooding
at
all,
so
they
would
not
be
all
set
in
any
water
to
us
or
any
neighbors
based
on
that
just
the
elevation
of
the
house
and
where
they
plan
on
putting
this
addition
as
well
other
than
that
that's
about
it.
C
D
One
email
from
Angela
Mitchell
dated
June
2nd
2023,
subject:
planning
hearing
boa
10039
hello,
my
name
is
Barbara
kotak
I
live
at
1841,
Evans
Drive,
South,
I'm.
Writing.
In
regards
to
the
public
hearing
on
June
6.,
boa
number
23-10039
I'm,
sending
my
approval
for
the
home
Edition
on
1848
Evans,
Drive
South.
Thank
you.
Barbara
kopeck.
C
Would
the
applicant
care
to
come
up
and
address
any
of
the
statements
made
during
the
public
hearing?
Thank
you.
O
Yeah
I
do
understand
the
the
title
three
that
just
back
there
along
these
properties-
and
there
is
there-
is
some
issues
with
with
the
drain
engine
out
how
it
affects
mainly
the
the
homes
in
the
sanctuary
and
certainly
for
that
reason
we've
been
trying
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
We
certainly
do
want
to
get
as
many
business
purpose
materials
we
can,
for
you
know.
L
L
E
C
Any
other
questions
for
the
applicant-
all
right,
You
can
be
seated
and
I
will
now
close
the
public
hearing
and
bring
the
item
back
to
the
board
for
discussion.
Is
there
a
motion?
I.
D
D
Thought
it
was
very
gracious
of
the
applicant
to
reduce
his
request
for
black
coverage,
so.
L
B
D
C
As
well
Jim
as
a
reminder,
each
member
of
the
public
will
be
given
three
minutes
to
see
when
we
open
a
public.
Does
any
board
member
have
expected
communication
on
this
items.
I
heard
none
I've
had
none
and
I've
had
none
with
the
applicant
or
agent.
Please
come
forward
to
be
sworn
in
and
give
your
testimony.
G
R
The
current
hardship
is
the
38
percent
lot
coverage
and
the
rear
setbacks.
Given
that
I
think
at
the
time
it
was
built,
they
didn't
have
that
quite
yet,
I
think.
Right
now
we
are
right
at
35
percent.
C
And
your
lot
is
undersized
based
on
gifts.
Yes,.
C
And
I
I
guess
this
is
partially
a
question
for
the
Apple
partial.
Yet
the
question
for
the
city,
but
having.
G
C
Stricter
setback
requirements.
E
Yeah,
in
essence,
an
attached
accessory
structure,
this
guy,
although
doesn't
actually
meet
the
setbacks,
has
a
minimum
setback
of
five
feet
on
the
side
of
the
rear.
When
you
attach
a
structure
to
a
house
even
with
the
Breezeway,
it
becomes
part
of
the
primary
structure
so
that
we're
setback
changed
from
5
to
30..
So.
C
Then
I
guess
my
question
for
the
applicant
is:
is
there
a
reason
that
your
new
structure
needs
to
be
attached.
R
We
are
making
a
like
mother-in-law
Suite,
so,
in
order
to
have
a
full
bathroom,
it
has
to
be
an
attached
unit.
Okay,.
R
C
R
Will
be
one
story?
Yes,
it'll
be
maximum
I
think
is
15
feet,
I
think
we're
going
to
14
feet
and
it
will
be
fully
lofted
on
the
inside,
but
it
won't
have
powers
that.
R
Necessarily
it's
just
more
of
like
an
independent
space
type
situation.
I
live
with
my
80
year
old,
grandparents.
S
R
S
E
G
T
E
North
is
this
way
in
the
shed
is
to
the
West?
Okay,
have
you
spoken
through
your
games
from
the
West
Side?
Yes,.
C
Any
other
questions
for
the
applicant
okay,
you
can
be
seated
and
I
will.
D
C
D
D
If
you
have
an
undersized
law,
she's,
not
really
asking
for
much
in
the
way
of
an
increase
in
not
coverage,
and
there
are
some
existing
non-performities
that
need
to
be
rectified
and.
C
I
know
that
I'm,
the
one
that
asked
about
making
it
detached
as
opposed
to
attached
but
I,
think
the
benefit
of
the
applicant
requesting
an
attached
structure
is
that
it
keeps
the
future
density
of
the
property
down
kind
of
ensuring
that
it
will
be
all
people
kind
of
living
in
the
single
family,
home
versus
turning
it
into
a
multi-unit
property.
So
in
keeping
with
the
standard
of
minimum
request,.
L
E
C
L
C
B
B
C
B
H
Wester
driver
McAfee,
Hawthorne
and
Diva
now
Suite
1200,
that's
one
Independent,
Drive,
Suite,
1200,
Jacksonville,
Florida
32202
I'm
glad
to
be
here
thanks
for
reviewing
the
presentation
up.
Is
that
the
point
you're
in
yeah.
H
And
I've
got
my
I've
got
my
team
here,
including
architect.
We
we
do
have
a
marriage
request
for
a
lot
coverage,
but
there
is
a
story
behind
this
renovation
and
Redevelopment
of
this
lot,
including
the
architecture
behind
it.
H
The
request
is
an
application
for
a
zoning
variants
for
a
lot
of
coverage
up
to
40,
to
allow
construction,
I,
believe
single
income,
marriage
request
to
redevelop
a
property
is
made
up
of
two
lots
and
they
are
regularly
shaped
Lots,
built
over
time
since
at
least
the
50s
a
lot
of
coverage,
then
it
was
calculated
at
7
200
square
feet,
which
was
48.9
coverage
and
so
that
that
property
has
been
demoed
and
driven
by
you've.
H
P
H
The
lot
there
there
it's
made
up
of
two
lots
of
record
regularly
shaped
not
really
conventionally
shaped
in
terms
of
the
geographic
position
of
the
ocean
and
the
street.
H
This
is
just
a
zoning
map.
As
we
all
know,
there's
35
27.
talk
about
the
Automotion
front
properties
of
the
certain
destination.
This
is
the.
H
Previous
home
footprint
and
it's
in
concert
with
the
adjacent
structures.
Basically,
this
is
the
lodge,
and
here
is
the
two
lots,
so
that's
divided
by
the
one
property
line,
and
then
this
is
the
setbacks.
The.
H
10
foot
on
your
side-
and
you
see
the
previous
home
and
kind
of
right
through
that
our
structure
is
very
similar
when
you
put
it
down
there.
This
is
really
hard
to
see.
I
understand
that
I've
got
it
blown
up
in
the
next
slide.
The
property
up
on
top
is
the
previous
footprint,
so
you
can
see
the
14
000
square
foot
plus
lots,
and
then
this
footprint
was
seven
thousand
plus
square
feet.
The
new
one,
as
previously
described
same
lot,
14
000
square
feet
and
we're
just
over
five
thousand
square
feet.
H
You
can
see
the
footprint
here
and
I'll
show
this
more
in
our
architectural
embellishment,
but
you
can
see
the
property
here,
it's
relatively
similar,
but
we
adhere
to
the
setbacks.
We
hear
the
height
we're
asking
for
a
nominal
increase
in
the
lot
coverage,
but
what
I'd
like
to
focus
on
is
this
area
in
here.
This
house
does
not
have
a
really
strong
presence
and
curb
appeal
in
terms
of
of
being
a
request
that
is
asking
for
you
know
four
percent
over
the
lot
coverage
and
I'll
explain
that
here
is
the
original
home.
G
K
H
H
H
The
next
is
actually
showing
again
from
the
curb
view,
but
this
whole
area
is
open
right
here.
This
is
a
pass-through
area,
so
you
do
have
the
roof
up
here,
which
acts
as
a
clearly
impervious
and
it's
got
run
off
the
roof,
but
this
is
not,
and
this
could
be
adorned
in
some
more
pervious
type
Paving
to
accommodate
that
coverage
request.
But
that's
what
makes
this
curb
appeals
great
is
why
we
have
over
25
signatures
of
endorsement
from
not
only
inviting
property,
understood,
North
and
the
South,
but
across
the
street
and
others
around.
H
The
entire
neighborhood
that
are
endorsing
and
supporting
this
project
is
because
of
the
Gerber
meal.
The
fact
that
you
can
see
through
this
it
really
acts
like
the
homes,
each
wing
of
the
home,
essentially
sitting
on
its
own
a
lot.
If
you
will
so
it
really
doesn't
have
that
kind
of
audacity
of
having
a
curb
appeal
that
is
oh,
my
gosh.
They
must
have
asked
for
40
the
block
coverage
request.
H
H
Type
of
arrangement
underneath
so
it's
a
little
more
of
a
hybrid
approach
in
terms
of
this
roof,
not
carrying
all
the
way
down.
You've
got
that
open
area
which
we
can
certainly
kind
of
add
some
some
nuances
too,
to
help
prevent
what
the
reason
why
we
have
lot
coverage
is
to
help
not
shed
so
much
water
out
through
our
waterways
and
burn
them
in.
H
This
is
a
rebuild
with
the
same
combined
Lots
generally
the
same
footprint
or
the
center
line
of
what
would
have
been
side,
yard
setbacks
and
that
essentially
taking
up
a
lot
of
coverage
and
restrictions
inherently
increases
the
lock
coverage
percentage,
because
those
areas
are
part
of
the
unified
plans.
They've
always
been
the
variance
request
to
accommodate
this
hardships,
customary
building
over
the
center
line,
which
are
normally
a
side
yard
lot
lines
and
for
the
surrounding
the
body
properties.
It
includes
an
overall
net
reduction
of
9.2
percent
in
the
lock
coverage
for
the
proposed
recipes.
The.
H
H
Max
block
coverage
from
35
to
40
percent;
again,
it's
actually
39.7
for
inclusion
of
all
elements
in
the
home,
including
the
driveways,
eBay,
Hardscape
and
other
elements.
The
total
percentage
of
the
39.7
and
the
owner
will
strive
to
achieve
that.
However,
Baseline
final
engineering
field,
construction
changes,
that's
why
we
put
40
in
there
over
25
surrounding
properties,
including
the
immediately
appointed
owners
assigned
a
letter
of
endorsement
supporting
experience
and.
H
That
I
sent
that
email
in
but
I
have
the
actual
hard
copy
signatures
here,
as
well
for
the
record
and
understanding
that
would
not
be
a
negative
impact
in
this
power.
Safety,
welfare
and
likelihood
again,
focusing
back
in
the
architectural
is
kind
of
more
of
a
hybrid
approach
to
an
architectural
embellishment
of
a
footprint,
because
that
open-air
password
so
with
that
I'd
turn
it
back
to
you
and
we
can
go
back
to
those
drawings
and
I've
got
my
architect
here
as
well.
H
We'd
like
to
kind
of
talk
about
that
specifically
and
I
do
have
a
handouts,
so
that
was
hard
to
see
and
more
than
Happy
Thanksgiving.
But
I'd
appreciate
your
support
in
this.
This
request,
I,
don't
think.
39.7
is
outlandish,
considering
what
we
presented
here
and
the
fact
that
we've
got
support
and
it
is
more
of
a
hybrid
approach
too.
H
C
C
What
I
failed
to
see
in
the
request
is
a
hardship
because
a
lot-
and
obviously
we
know
it's
too
hot,
so
the
square
footage
that
you're
working
with
is
well
over
the
minimum
standard
and
I
can
appreciate
that
you're
planning
to
develop
a
property,
and
you
know
a
responsible
way
in
a
way
that
preserves
the
line
of
sight
and
all
of
that,
but
I
think
just
for
our
board's
specific
charge.
I
think
that
we
would
need
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
what
the
actual
hardship
is
that
results
in
the
request.
B
C
H
Well,
in
this
case,
I
think
it
would
be
the
irregular
shape
lot
and
the
fact
that
we're
is
less
of
a
burden
on
the
infrastructure
to
build
one
property.
One
house
one
structure
over
what's
customarily
been
the
situation
for
many
many
decades
out
there
as
opposed
to
two
residential
structures-
that's
two
meters
and
so
forth,
and
you
go
on
and
on
and
on
which
actually
could
actually
be
more
per
seven
thousand
square
foot
lot
more
impervious.
H
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we've
reduced
it
close
to
10
percent,
with
the
irregular
shaped
lot
and
putting
the
house
back
over
it
and
we've
actually
accommodated
the
architecture
to
kind
of
make
it
not
be
so
a
burdensome
on
the
curb
reveal.
If
you
will,
we
could
honestly
enough,
we've
been
talking
with
an
architect
and
the
owners
and
the
you
know
we're
asking
for
39.7.
What
we'd
like
to
do,
though,
is
is
ask
for
consideration
potentially
to
38
and
the
reason
why
is
we
ran
some
calculations
back
there
for
that
area?
H
That's
underneath
this
open
to
the
sky
and
that
will
capture
rain
water.
Unlike
it
if
the
house
was
completely
structurally
built.
All
the
way
to
the
ground
and
it
shed
somewhere
else.
So
by
way
of
that,
allowing
that
to
capture
it
allows
it
to
perk
down,
and
we
calculated
that
to
almost
that's
1.8
percent
and
that
we
had
asked
him
for
39.7
about
1.8.
H
That
gives
us
turnaround
closer
to
38
percent
because
of
that
hybrid
approach
of
the
architecture,
and
we
tried
to
make
the
most
of
the
irregular
shape
lot
as
it's
situated
and
putting
a
house
back,
that's
been
customarily
built
on
over
two
watts
and
the
fact
that
we
straddle
that
setback
line,
which
normally
would
be
in
the
areas
that
you
don't
do
you
in
touch,
and
you
know
unhabited
and
unbuilt
on
the
side,
yard
setbacks
we're
kind
of
sitting
over
20
feet
of
that
I.
Think
it's
a
pretty
Modest
Mouse,
pretty
modest
ask!
H
H
Irregular
but
all
things
considering
we're
reducing
it
now,
roughly
10
as
far
as
what
was
there
before
and
that's
a
huge
that's,
a
huge
thing
for
Jax
Beach
and
all
the
drainage
issues
that
we
always
have
so
I'd
ask
for
your
consideration
for
that
questions.
H
Could
could
something
with
the
driveways
and
the
walkways
to
reduce
your
lock
coverage.
We
did.
We
actually
worked
with
the
city
of
Jacksonville
staff
on
the
the
distance
between
the
eBay
vacuum
as
well,
and
then
recalculated
that
a
little
bit
wider
spacing
in
between
to
get
that,
let's
say
I'm
going
to
credit,
but
they
probably
did
the
rainfall
to
get
through
there.
So
we
went
in
that
and
we
accommodated
that
in
our
calculations.
H
We
actually
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
see
here
in
this
wash
we've
done
that
here,
where
we've
got
on
the
back
of
the
driveway
in
the
front
sorry.
So
this
is
a
decent
perspective,
but
let
me
get
a
higher
here.
We
go
so
we've
got
these
these
strips
going
across
here
and
that
inherently
will
help
to
kind
of
allow
the
water
to
park
down
into
the
ground
instead
of
shedding
over
it.
So
we
have
accommodated
that
I
think
any
more
than
that.
H
You
run
the
risk
of
maybe
starting
the
driveway
to
start
crack,
but
we've
accommodated
best
manager,
practices
from
a
drainage
aspect,
and
we
realize
that
the
lock
coverage
is
really
the
Crux
of
maybe
not
only
the
massing
and
the
scale
of
an
architectural
theme
out
there,
but
maybe
the
the
drainage
and
the
impact
of
the
drainage
of
the
burden.
I
think
we've
accommodated
that,
but
more
importantly,
the
architectural
app
and
that's
why
over
25
I
think
it's
27
actually
immediately
inviting
neighbors.
All
surrounding
us
support
this
project
because
we're
not
building
this
monstrosity.
H
You
can
actually
see
through
it.
It
feels
like
two
separate
houses,
so
it's
more
of
a
hybrid
approach,
but
we
have
done
some
kind
of
cut
through
the
driveways
to
allow
some
curvies
to
go
through
there.
I'm
not
sure
we
could
probably
do
a
little
bit
more,
but
we've
run
the
calculations
on
this
and
we
think
it
works
really
well.
D
Yeah,
that's
fine.
Okay,
help
me
understand
how
that's
in
a
regular
shape.
H
Well,
because
it's
not
perfectly
rectangular,
you
can
see
they're
they're
slight
irregularity
in
it.
You
know,
and
most
of
the
different
slide
I
think
that
means
it,
but
we
can
judge
the
merits
of
the
angles
if
you
will,
but
it
is
slightly
irregular.
L
Sorry,
I
haven't
drove
them
by
the
side.
Is
there
an
elevation
upgrade
to
the
front
of
this
house?
I'm
not
familiar
with
this
exact
location.
H
H
So
that's
a
long
way
through
the
hospital,
but
this
right
here
is
the
kind
of
hybrid
approach
we're
taking
to
this
property,
to
allow
kind
of
light
and
air
through
that
area,
but,
more
importantly,
capture
any
of
the
runoff
that's
going
through
there
for
potential
perk
in
the
future,
as
opposed
to
just
walls
going
straight
down
when
that
water's
going
to
go
somewhere
that
water
can
be
captured
there
through
some.
You
know,
engineering
measures
and.
L
H
B
I
This,
yes,
it's
Joe
Cronk
with
chronic
group
architecture
and
I'm
in
1936,
San
Marco
Boulevard
in
Jackson.
C
I
I
The
material
that
looks
a
little
bit
modeled
is
is
a
semi-imperious
favor,
so
we
haven't
even
really
started
to
look
at
taking
that
out,
but
it
is
necessary
to
get
cars
in
and
turning
into
the
garage
on
the
right,
but,
like
Brad
said,
once
you
get
into
that
right,
there's
about
a
thousand
square
feet
that
sits
under
in
between
the
two
buildings.
It
is
essentially
going
to
be
soft
natural
native
grasses,
and
that
would,
except
in
the
drainage,
from
the
front
side
on
the
East
and
the
west
side
will
drain
into
that
area.
I
H
Brat
Buster
against
the
record
in
what
what
the
city's
calculating
is.
Is
we
look
down
from
Plan
B,
the
Rooftop?
Not
what's
underneath?
That's
why
we
had
to
tell
the
story
here
is
that
you
can
actually
see
through
that
penetration
which
helps
not
only
for
drainage
purposes
but
light
and
air.
It
actually
helps
the
curve
it
feel
so
much
better.
That's
why
we
have
so
much
support
on
this
project
as
opposed
to
a
big
wall
into
something
conventional.
H
I
Geography
ended
up.
You
know
the
hardship
that
we
see
as
Brad
said,
is
that
the
lot
north
and
south
property
lines
are
orthogonal
to
the
street.
All
of
the
houses
are
angled
at
that
same
angle,
whereas
the
East
and
the
West
property
lines
are
angled
with
the
coast
and
with
a
narrow,
Oceanfront
lot.
Maintaining
the
orthogonal
footprint
of
the
house,
like
all
the
houses,
do.
If
you
go
back
to
the
what.
S
H
Underneath
because
it's
open
air
you
can
potentially
grab,
you
know
storm
water
for
percolation.
That's
the
story
behind
this.
So
it's
a
it's
a
plan
view
lock
coverage
area
not
taking
into
consideration
the
vertical
element
in
condition
with
this
irregular
shape
lot.
So
we
hope
you
obliged-
and
we
we're
properly
now
from
39
7
to
38
to
accommodate
that
little
area
right
there.
L
L
H
Well
architecturally:
this
is
all
you
know,
as
a
unified
theme
and
unified
plant
is
all
built
for
a
specific
purpose
and
I
think
they
have.
The
ability
to
have
this
Hardscape
element
here
for
customer
use
on
the
oceanfront
is
really
key
to
this,
but,
more
importantly,
allowing
not
only
the
users
of
this
property,
but
the
entire
neighborhood
and
literally
the
environment
brain
to
be
able
to
kind
of
penetrate
through
this
opening
area.
I
H
H
To
kind
of
move
that
needle
with
with
that
element,
but
clearly
you
know,
there's
no
way
for
the
code
to
calculate.
H
How
does
that
capture
a
play
into
this
whole
theme?
So
that's
why
there
was
a
story
behind
this.
It
was
important
to
show
these
these
renderings,
as
opposed
to
just
the
plan
view
pitch
for
a
variance
so
why
it
might
not
be
conventional
from
an
ask
for
a
hardship.
This
is
clearly
a
hybrid
approach
to
a
hardship,
and
we
hope
you,
you
will.
G
B
P
C
D
We
do
have
a
we
have
15
signatures.
Actually
we
have
approximately
20
bucks
issues
on
a
petition
that
says
as
a
neighbor
living
near
the
property
located
at
3527,
Ocean
Drive
South
I
am
in
support
of
this
variance
application.
Boa
23-1042,
that's
what
it
is.
H
Thank
you
Steve
for
coming
up
to
say
something.
I
would
like
to
address
the
documentary
Smith,
which
were
hard
copy
signatures.
Those
do
include
immediately
I'm,
not
in
and
immediately
across
the
street,
those
directly
affected
by
the
new
mass
of
this
property
property
Middleton
and
what
time
so
in,
of
course,
the
entire
neighborhood.
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
as
you
look
at
it
is
a
factual
that
the
property
owners
are
the
ones
immediately
running
surrounding,
and
the
new
peripheral
as
well
so
I
think.
T
H
27
on
there
total
so
I
didn't
ask
for
your
consideration.
I
understand
it's
not
a
very
conventional
hardship,
but
is
a
hardship
nonetheless,
and
I
think
the
fact
that
we're
reducing
it
almost
10
in
terms
of
improvise
is
really
good
for
Jax
Beach
building
it
as
one
lot
compared
to
the
Birdman,
potentially
two
biddles
on
two
loans
or
a
build
on
each
block.
If
you
were.
E
D
I
will
now
close
the
public
hearing
and
bring
the
idea.
Is
there?
Is
there
a
motion?
I
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
OA.
K
L
Opportunity
for
adjustments
to
still
be
made
between
the
size
of
the
scale.
This
project
is
large,
I
struggle
trying
to
support
this
at
this
point,
because
the
conversation
I
had
with
this
additionally
never
calculated
that
variance
what
I
heard
was
getting
calculate,
that
variance
of
any
credit
on
that
drive
on
that
sidewalk
or
the
secondary
driveway.
It's
still
taking
100
by
my
whatever
Matthew.
L
C
Well,
they
were
okay,
reducing
it
to
38,
based
on
the
initial
statement
proposal
made
by
the
agent,
but
then
it
sounds
like
it
would.
Actually,
it
could
potentially
come
in
at
less
than
that,
based
on
Christian's
recalculation
of
I.
C
H
E
Yeah,
in
essence,
our
code
doesn't
have
an
impervious
service
ratio,
which
is
what
he's
referring
to
most
codes.
Do
and
it's
one
of
the
things
we're
looking
at
is
the
code
Provisions,
but
currently
it
is
simply
locked
coverage
is
not
tied
to
drainage
at
all.
So
it's
just
a
blanket
if
it's
covered
it's
covered
and.
L
H
We
talk
about
lock
coverage,
you
can't
discount
The
Watershed
of
the
property,
because
that's
that's
the
biggest
burden
on
Jack
speech
right
now,
not
just
the
oh,
my
gosh.
What's
going
on
with
that
huge
structure,
it's
really
what
is
the
end?
What
are
the
impacts
to
the
city's
infrastructure
in
the
surrounding
residence
and
we
can
prove
again
with
construction
and
Engineering
submittals
for
the
coming.
If
we
were
to
get
this
38
that
there'd
be
no
overnight
shed
beyond
that,
so
yeah
we
accept
the
38
and
I
appreciate
it.
K
D
I
I
share
the
struggle
with
the
hardship.
D
C
Well,
this
is
probably
a
maybe
a
reach
for
our
hardship,
but
I
do
think
that
there's
some
Merit
to
the
applicants
or
the
agents
argument
about
choosing
to
build
one
home
across
the
two
lots,
as
opposed
to
building
separate
homes
on
each
of
the
Lots.
In
that,
obviously,
you
have
to
connect
the
home
across
the
middle
and
the
fact
that
they
have
been
able
to
do
that,
while
maintaining
all
of
the
setbacks.
C
The
only
thing
that
they've
requested
is,
at
this
point,
a
three
percent
increase
in
law
coverage
that
essentially
addresses
the
space
that
would
be
buffer
space
in
between
two
individual
homes
on
the
Lots
I
am
willing
to
consider
that
as
if
not
a
hardship
necessarily,
then
something
that
creates
an
irregularity
on
the
lot.
That's
you
know
something
that
has
to
be
considered
by
the
by
the
applicant.
The.
E
C
Yeah
and
again,
the
fact
that
you
know
all
of
the
outdoor
space
has
been
accounted
for,
so
we
can.
You
know
we
can
rest.
Someone
assured
that
this
is
the
last
request
that
we're
going
to
see
from
this
property,
as
opposed
to
you
know
when
we
like
I,
said
when
we
have
people
come
and
ask
for
35
or
40
percent
to,
for
you
know,
38
40
to
build
the
home
with
a
six
by
six
pad
with
that
you're
going
to
be
back
later
with
the
new
homeowner
asking
for
a
pool.
L
G
L
U
L
7
500
square
foot
in
an
rs1
with
minimum
lot
coverage
is
ten
thousand
So.
To
that
extent,
both
stocks
are
both.
Lots
are
undersized
to
that
ten
thousand
correct.
So
if
you
scale
them
to
size,
this
request
is
still
below
the
35
percent
of
the
minimum
lot
upside
10
000
square
foot
for
those
could
potentially
be
seen
as
a
hardship
of
an
undersized
block.
L
K
E
So
you
can
split
the
house
in
half,
always
put
the
lock
coverage
and
have
and
applied
it
to
each
lot
individually,
be
at
38.9
percent.
So
this
would
be
identical
basically,
but
they
would
in
fact
have
our
hardship
at
that
point
because
they
can
substandard,
but
there
would
also
have
to
think
into
account
in
the
side
or
except
that's
what.
K
E
L
C
And
also
yes,
from
what
we
have
heard
from
the
agent
and
what
we're
able
to
you
know
calculate
exactly
it's
38
but
I
think
from
a
practical
standpoint.
It
actually
ends
up
being
even
less
than
38
when
you
consider
the
green
space
that
will
be
built
in
the
Breezeway
area,
as
well
as
any
additional
impervious
space
or
previous
space.
Rather
that
wasn't
calculated
from
the
pool
deck
so.
E
Anybody
answerable
question
to
own
and
raise
if
you
took
the
driveway
the
walkway
and
applied
a
50
block
coverage
credit.
It
still
didn't
get
them
below
50
35
I'm
getting
closer
to
36..
Maybe,
but
there
is
some
credit
kind
of
built
in
there
already
so
I.
Imagine
if
we
didn't
quite
do
that
much
yeah.
C
And
there
is
emotional
before
there
is
30
for
38
percent.
Okay,
with
no
further
discussion
can
we
have
a
role
called
vote.
Please.
B
C
B
V
V
Yeah,
so
the
front
of
our
house
on
one
side
has
two
dreams
that
so
that.
G
V
Can
go
on
one
side
of
the
we
can't
park
at
all
on
that
side.
The
other
side
where
we're
asking
for
the
zero
setback
is,
has
brought
Sonic
currently
and
we're
wanting
to
put
pavers
and
basically
pavers
would
go
on
the
Zero
lot
line
against
our
neighbors
neighbors,
and
so
there
would
be
no
grass
there
because
they
have
a
two-story
house
and
it's
just
like
a
small
sliver
in.
V
V
On
and
so
we're
just
going
to
put
papers
over
it
to
make
it
look
a
little
bit
better
and
move
our
AC
unit.
G
V
Where
all
of
us
can
get
outside
and
hang
out,
so
the
hardship
is
our
lots
already
small.
We
basically
don't
need
any
code
before
we
started
so
and
I
our
neighbors.
S
L
V
I
was
like
I'm
a
pharmacist,
so
I
kind
of
do
everything
by
the
book.
So
unfortunately,
fortunately.
B
J
V
C
C
D
O
D
D
C
B
Q
W
Yes,
this
property
has
many
many
hardships,
starting
with
the
existing
1196
square
foot
home
was
built
in
1978,
which
was
pre-dating
the
current
Land
Development
codes.
W
W
C
C
W
W
C
Any
other
questions
for
the
agent
with
the
homeowner
care
to
come
up
theology.
Thank
you.
B
S
So
we've
spoken
to
our
neighbors
behind
and
next
to
us,
with
Arnold
Coleman
a
lot.
So
those
are.
S
The
street
next
to
across
the
street
across
the
other
streets,
so
really
we're
really
close
neighborhood.
So
it's
not
something
we
would
even
consider
without
getting
their
feedback,
because
certainly
they
have
to
live
with
the
construction
part
of
it,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
they
were
supportive.
G
S
C
B
T
C
D
L
Yeah
I
think
it's
very
clear
that
the
existing
structure
doesn't
really
offer
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
add
on
without
some
type
of
relief
from
the
setbacks
which
they've
already
exceeded
from
historical
building,
and
knowing
that
the
neighbor
directed
behind
me
is
trying
to
show
support.
As
the
most
impacted
party
I.
Think
that
mitigates.
D
G
C
B
X
So
the
building
was
originally
built
55
years
ago
in
1968
as
a
David
Flores,
it
was
the
first
florist
in
Jax,
Beach
The
Davids
created
a
business
and
a
home
for
their
family
until
it
was
sold
to
Mr
Harry
Schnabel
who's.
Actually,
here
he
owned
it
and
operated
it
for
35
years
as
the
seahorse
forest
and
then
about
four
or
five
years
ago.
He
sold
to
miss
Ellen
Peterson,
who
is
also
here.
It's
an
iconic
building.
It's
been
a
landmark
on
A1A.
X
X
X
J
X
Have
secure,
there's
a
there's,
a
gym
next
door
called
black
Hive
and
I'm
working
with
the
owner
of
rent
parish
and
on
a
shared
parking
agreement.
He
is
100
supportive.
We
just
haven't
gotten
the
document
finalized
yet,
but
he
runs
a
gym,
so
his
classes
are
in
the
early
mornings
and
then
in
the
evenings
in
the
Spas
open
by
appointment
only
during
the
day,
so
he's
very
open
to
helping
with
that
the
property
being
a
retail
store
for
15
years.
X
Furthermore,
there
are
three
apartments
on
the
top,
so
the
six
spaces
that
are
on
the
property,
a
six
there's
three
Apartments,
so
the
six
spaces
are
for
the
residences
and
but
in
the
addendums
for
the
tennis
they
actually
agree
and
understand
and
have
signed
off
on.
You
know
sharing
the
parking
with
business
during
the
open
hours
of
business
too.
The
hutchinsons
they
they're.
Actually,
here
too.
X
C
B
X
I
have
four
treatment
rooms
and
I
have
other
than
myself.
I
have
one
other
full-time,
esthetician
and
two
part-time.
So
typically,
the
two
full-time
are
there,
so
three
estheticians
plus
one
front
desk
of
four
on
a
daily
basis
and
then
we're
not
booked
on
the
hour
every
hour.
So
this
place
isn't
full
all
day
anyway,
like
we'll
see,
I
mean
I've
seen
maybe
six
clients,
the
other
girls
average,
maybe
three
to
five
on.
X
L
C
X
G
X
G
C
Do
you
so
you
mentioned
that
you've
been
in
contact
with
the
owner
of
the
gym?
Do
you
think
that
it
would
be
possible
to
get
an
official
shared
parking
agreement?
Oh
yeah
yeah
for
sure.
X
Yeah
I
drive
like
this
the
spot
all
day
every
day
and
I've
noticed
for
a
while
at
the
gym,
I
think
they're
kind
of
restructuring
their
model
too,
but
I
noticed
that
they've
got
this.
You
know.
G
C
C
D
X
D
By
there
several
times
during
the
day
and
I
came
back
to
this
busy
in
the
morning
right.
E
C
C
C
B
U
U
U
U
C
N
My
family
moved
to
the
beach
in
1954
and
I,
went
to
Lincoln
Beach,
Elementary
and
Fletcher,
where
I
met
my
wife,
who
had
to
go
back
home
for
something
else,
but
we
went
off
to
graduate
school
and
college
and
I
practiced
law
in
Atlanta
and
Miami,
and
we've
moved
back
largely
because
of
some
elderly
parents
who
have
since
passed
away.
We've
lived
in
the
building
since
2003
and
I.
N
Don't
know
if
anybody
remembers
what
the
neighborhood
was
like
in
2003,
but
the
gem
was
a
really
nasty
garage
and
there's
still
a
lot
of
pollution
underneath
the
gem
building.
But
fortunately
Brent
has
improved
that
quite
a
lot.
I
work
out
there,
myself
it's
a
great
gym
and
in
Harry's
essay
right.
There
is
nothing
that
building
can
be
unless
there
is
a
commercial
space
on
the
bottom
and
my
wife
and
I
are
retired.
So
we
only
have
one
card
which
we
shared.
N
So
that's
we
can
cut
down
on
the
spaces
needed,
but
it
really
is
important
for
that
building
to
be
brought
up
to
the
level
that
you
find
on
9th
Avenue
and
then
there's
a
an
interesting
interior
design
store.
N
M
It's
going
up
we're
seeing
a.
N
Lot
of
old
buildings
getting
redone
and
unfortunately
75
kind
of
looks
like
it's
unoccupied
at
this
point,
because
there's
nothing
on
the
ground
floor,
so
I
think
it
would
really
help
the
beach
a
lot
and
a
part
of
Jax
Beach,
which
is
up
and
coming
commercially
the
variances
around.
Thank
you
thank.
B
J
J
Judas2310
ocean
Forest,
Drive
West
in
Atlantic,
Beach
and
I'm
here,
because
I'm,
a
client
of
Casey,
Lee's
and
I
I
know
how
hard
she's
worked
to
get
to
this
point.
But
I
encourage
all
of
you.
If
you
want
to
know
what
the
building
will
look
like
after
she
has
renovated,
it
go,
buy
her
restore
front
on
9th
Street.
It's
going
to
add
tremendous
curb
appeal
to
that
area
of
Jacksonville
Beach
and
she
is
a
an
amazing
businesswoman.
So
it
will
be
a
success
and
she's
been
it's
a.
G
J
B
Y
My
name
is
Ellen
Peterson
Street
South
here
in
Jacksonville,
Beach
I
grew
up
in
Jacksonville
Beach
and
went
all
the
beaches
school
and
graduated
from
Fletcher.
I
did
move
away
back
in
82
and
I
moved
back
to
Jacksonville
Beach
in
2016.,
and
that's
when
I
bought
the
flower
shop
and
bought
the
building
from
Harry.
So
I've
had
the
building
for
seven
years,
because
and
because
of
covid.
Unfortunately,
in
the
lockdown
was
too
much
of
a
financial
hit
for
me
to
be
able
to
reopen
the
flower
shop,
but
I
do
want
to
encourage
you
all.
Y
We
really
do
want
to
work
together
to
be
able
to
revitalize
that
beautiful
building.
That's
been
here
at
the
beach
and
has
been
an
icon
here
at
the
beach
and
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
I
am
in
full
support
of
Casey
as
well
bringing
purposes
I
have
been
into
her
skin
spa
and
it's
a
beautiful
building
and
she's
done
a
wonderful
job
and
as
a
business
owner
as
we've
already
been
hearing,
and
she
would
do
nothing
but
the
best
for
for
that
building
as
well.
C
Thank
you
and
as
a
reminder,
both
of
the
speakers
who
we
just
heard
from
will
need
to
fill
out
a
speaker's
card.
That's
on
the
table
by
the
door
before
you
leave
and
please
submit
it
to
the
clerk
and
I.
Don't
know
that,
there's
anybody
left
in
the
audience
who
has
not
spoken.
Is
there
any
other
members
of
the
audience
who
care
to
speak
and,
if
not
I,
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
bring.
D
Russian
I
make
a
motion
to
approve
boa
23-100048
based
on
the
testimony
and
evidence,
provided
the
request
is
about
all
the
standards
for
a
variance
is
outlined
in
section
34-286
Glenville.
Second,
it's.
L
S
C
Same
circumstances
as
a
florist,
where
the
volume
was
probably
a
lot
greater,
certainly
at
you
know
a
few
times.
I
agree
if
they
had
no
issues
then,
and
the
Tenant
that
we
heard
from
has
no
issues.
C
Then
I
think
that
kind
of
gives
you
the
context
that
they're
able
to
function
with
the
amount
of
spaces.
They
have
the
only
question
I.
Actually
the.
E
E
D
C
Off
yes,
so
the
motion
recommended
is
now
up
for
discussion
and
is
there
any
further
discussion
on
the
on
the
motion
condition
to
use
as
a
spa
in
the
commercial
space
of
the
building
any
further
discussion,
all
right
hearing
done
here.
We
have
a
roll
call
vote.
Please
Jeff
trueer.
B
C
C
D
And
it's
gonna
be
gone
next
next
meeting
up.
G
E
Yeah
I
mean
in
theory
the
the
contract
is
through
the
end
of
the
year
without
saying
extension
periods
built
into
that,
but
it'll
really
come
down
to
when
they
get
a
draft
rating
for
both
documents
and
then
going
to
the
public
hearing
the
process.
So
another
final
adoption,
particularly
for
the
company,
we'll,
have
to
go
through
the
state
review
as
well,
such
as
a
level
at
some
time,
I'm
optimistically
against
Department
next
year.
For.
C
Final
adoption
and
I'm
sorry
I
know
we've
been
here
forever,
but
it
was
hard
not
to
think
about
some
of
the
proposed
changes
to
the
code.
As
we
were
hearing
proposals
tonight,.
G
A
E
There
isn't
a
standard
practice
in
the
law
that
applies
to
government
I,
don't
recall
those
specifics
or
the
title
of
it.
But
basically,
if
you
have
something
that
is
pending,
then
it
can
technically
either
apply
or
put
things
on
hold,
there's
a
number
of
ways
of
doing
it,
but
yeah.
If
there's
legalization
pending
then
either
like
the
good
people
to
wait
or
there
may
be
a
process
by
which,
if
that's
you
know
if.
E
By
Council
but
hasn't
gone
to
the
state
review
yet
or
something
like
that,
but
I
came
to
find
out
more
for.
G
E
Sure
and
I
will
say
we
can
get
the
results
from
the
the
DOT
increasing
log
coverage
was
something
in
the
neighborhood
of
like
82
before
so
I
think
everyone
recognizes
it's
an
issue,
so
hopefully
that
will
go
through.
C
Thank
you
guys
for
indulging
me
anything
else
before
we
move
to
adjourn
so
dude
all
in
favor
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.