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From YouTube: Council Workshop (08/08/2018)
Description
Regular City Council Meeting
A
We'll
begin
in
three
minutes,
so
that's
30
minutes
and
each
speaker
must
be
a
resident
or
right,
as
the
president
accent
Alito
a
restaurant
owner
in
Jackson
over
here.
If
you're
not
selected,
to
provide
public
comment
on
that
page.
That
I
just
talked
about
there's
a
written
section
at
the
end
where
you
can
write
comments,
suggestions
or
concerns
and
submit
that
to
the
court
before
you
leave
and
remember
that
if
an
awareness
modification
does
take
place,
public
comment
will
be
taken
from
anyone
who
wishes
to
speak
at
the
first
and
the
second.
A
B
B
The
original
fight
that
started
at
about
2:15,
that
was
in
the
area
between
the
400
block
and
3rd
Avenue
North
there
on
the
first
three
and
then
fight
kind
of
moved
up
the
street
just
a
little
bit
when
officers
finally
arrived
and
started
to
break
up,
and
so
people
started
some
circle.
Assassin
story
going
for
it
took
place
in
a
400
block
of
1st
Street
north
and
Bobby.
Several
people,
including
the
victim
and
the
suspects
in
the
shooting,
most
like
the
officer,
kept
a
presence
in
the
immediate
downtown
area
and
then
at
2:20
p.m.
B
B
Officers
were
then
set
to
the
correct
location,
which
was
the
100
block
of
7th
Avenue
north,
and
they
arrived
there.
39
seconds
later,
the
victim
was
Leon
Bennett
age,
23
of
Atlantic
Beach.
Our
detectives
worked
diligently
for
several
weeks
to
identify
the
suspects
and
information
to
obtain
a
less
warrants
for
both
subjects
involved.
B
One
was
for
carrying
a
concealed
firearm
and
both
subjects
were
digital
rest
warrants
for
tampering
with
evidence.
A
couple
of
weeks
later
they
were
both
arrested
and
Hawaii
extra
extradited
back
to
Jacksonville
yesterday,
and
they
arrived
here
at
the
first
appear
in
front
of
the
court
yesterday.
At
you
know
the
there
are
additional
charges,
possibly
pending
in
the
future
against
Chief.
Before
you
go
into
the
next
step.
B
So
we
would
adult
me
for
just
a
couple
minutes
and
I
ain't
going
to
read
them
the
bullet
points,
because
this
is
a
Democrat
for
things
that
occurred
from
2008
downtown
Kate
program
was
assigned
to
officers
on
a
full-time
basis
with
the
initial
Valentine
cake
program.
The
attention
to
program
at
that
time
was
to
enhance
safety.
The
downtown
area
in
2009
the
program
was
extended,
expanded
to
include
two
additional
police
officers.
B
Was
assigned
to
work
with
downtown
apartment
program,
you
can
find
overnight
basis
in
the
three
downtown
apartment
Lots.
When
those
paid
parking
lots
were
in
effect,
there
were
no
Garber
burglaries
or
incidents
in
those
parking
lots,
so
that
didn't
do
what
it
was
intended
to
do
have
to
pay
parking
in
downtown
downtown.
Cape
officers
began
to
work
with
businesses
in
the
downtown
area
in
crime
prevention
to
start
the
training
and
code
enforcement,
the
officers
patrolled
the
area
on
the
beach
with
ATVs
and
utilized
bicycles
and
segways
throughout
the
downtown
area.
B
We're
marched
through
the
middle
of
July
5
additional
detectives
from
the
community
response
team
were
redirected
from
all
their
other
efforts
and
only
to
the
downtown
area
to
reduce
the
mandatory
overtime
and
augment
officers
of
the
DEF
CON
cake
program
in
2011,
City
Council
passed
the
extend
an
hour
program
requirement
for
alcohol
establishments
that
chose
to
sell
alcohol
after
midnight.
This
ordinance
place.
B
The
downtown
gate,
unit
and
agents
from
the
Florida
Department
of
alcoholic
beverage
and
tobacco
work,
numerous
enforcement
details
and
all
of
the
establishments
each
year's
each
year.
They
look
for
underaged
service
over
service
and
ensure
that
all
the
rules
are
being
followed.
Now
the
downtown
capable
officers
continue
to
work
with
the
businesses
in
the
area,
crime,
prevention
and
utilize.
The
principles
of
crime
prevention
through
Environmental
Design,
which
is
considered
an
acronym
except
in
evidence
of
reduce
crime.
B
Every
business
in
CRA
has
a
specific
officer
assignment
a
mostly
a
sign
and
the
officer
visits
the
Business
Weekly
to
answer
questions
to
try
to
solve
problems
for
the
business
owners.
The
officer
also
advises
the
businessman
of
issues
of
crime
and
trends
of
things
in
their
area.
There
are
at
that
time
in
May
of
2013.
A
corporal
position
was
added
to
the
end.
You
know
the
corporal
was
able
to
provide
supervision
and
direction
for
the
officers
in
the
program
fiscal
year.
B
2014
three
additional
officers
at
a
sergeant
position
were
created
for
the
downtown
of
Cape
Union,
the
2017,
an
additional
courtroom
and
an
officer
were
added
to
the
program.
This
brought
the
staffing
level
to
the
total
of
eleven
which
allows
for
the
game
to
be
broken
into
two
workgroups,
much
like
patrol
with
an
overall
super
sergeant
supervisor
through
the
charge
of
the
Union
to
2017.
In
an
effort
to
allow
the
businesses
which
have
outdoor
dining
to
enhance
outdoor
dining
experience,
the
low
volume
outdoor
and
amplified
sound,
Department
or
ordinance
was
enacted.
B
The
downtown
gate
unit
works
with
bar
owners
and
establishments
to
create
responsible
service
training
for
any
alcohol
establishment
that
wishes
to
participate.
The
2017
funding
was
a
group
to
purchase
an
extensive
food
camera
system
for
the
downtown
area.
The
cameras
became
operational
in
July
of
2018
regarding
the
code
enforcement
of
downtown
cake
officers,
work
with
businesses
to
correct
code
violations
in
an
effort
to
prevent
violations
violators
from
appearing
before
the
magistrate.
However,
in
some
cases,
learners
have
not
taken
required
corrective
action
and
violations
were
issued
and
referred
to.
B
The
magistrate
both
downtown
cape
and
the
Carver
Center
program
work
closely
with
the
Mission
House
provide
services
to
the
homeless
population,
medical
care
and
assistance
in
finding
housing.
But
the
downtown
cake
of
the
Carver
center
cake
program
also
work
with
being
the
beaches,
assist
emergency
assistance
ministry
to
obtain
assistance
for
residents
and
a
variety
of
different
services,
so
that
kind
of
gives
a
little
bit
of
an
overview
of
how
the
downtown
cake
program
started.
B
What
those
responsibilities
of
those
officers
has
been
and
I
think
how
far
we've
actually
with
the
program
question
always
comes
up
to
us
is:
are
there
enough
police
officers
down
there?
My
opinion
right
now?
This
is
that
we
have
a
good
number
down
there
and
there
is
a
fine
line
between
how
many
are
needed
to
maintain
the
cross
and
yet
not
creating
an
environment
that
looks
like
we
have
a
policeman
over
ten
feet.
B
But
you'll
see
from
our
video
that
I'm
about
to
show
that
the
requirement
that
we
have
of
the
officers
in
the
downtown
area-
and
then
there
was
closing
times
from
usually
about
one
o'clock,
1:15
felt
just
after
two
o'clock,
and
so
we
can
get
that
here
to
close
out
some
of
the
pedestrians
cleared
out
of
there.
We
take
almost
all
of
the
resources
that
are
available
throughout
the
rest
of
the
city
and
bring
those
into
the
downtown
areas.
Will
help
maintain
order
in
the
crowd
you'll
see
in
this
video,
why
that
sometimes
necessary.
A
Before
we
run
the
video,
as
I
mentioned
the
beginning,
we're
going
to
allow
some
of
the
comment
from
five
people
that
are
in
favor
of
supporting
ordinance
the
fire
hose.
If
you
want
to
be
one
of
the
speakers,
please
get
a
car
and
just
write
your
name
and
address,
and
your
the
night,
your
supporting
or
opposing
that
modification,
bring
it
up
to
the
clerk
and
we'll
be
good
to
go
out
of
the
video.
So
thank
you.
B
B
B
B
B
A
And
or
reservoirs
to
serve
alcohol
town
water
disturbances
in
their
business,
so
we
had
an
opportunity
to
hear
the
chief
we've
had
an
opportunity
of
the
videos,
we're
going
to
give
a
few
and
get
a
couple
of
minutes
here
to
give
us
your
thoughts
and
feelings
and
I.
Think
the
first
part
of
the
mr.
element
is
arena
right
and
if
you
come
forward,
give
someone
an
address
like
three.
E
E
E
With
very
broad
brush
people
down
here
may
perceive
restaurants,
as
you
know,
they're
doing
something
wrong
because
they're
staying
open
till
2:00
a.m.
well.
You
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
municipalities
where
restaurants
I
mean
all
over
America.
They
stay
open,
till
2:00
a.m.
so
I.
Don't
see
you
know
what
what
the
big
deal
is
and
for
the
past.
E
Our
tails,
we
provide
more
jobs.
You
know,
there's
good
operators
out
there.
So
when
you
do
something
or
plan
on
doing
something
that
affects
multiple
businesses,
you
have
to
look
at
everybody,
not
just
one
side,
not
just
the
side.
That
says.
Oh
hey,
you
know
it's!
Okay,
if
we
just
take
the
license
away
from
the
restaurants,
you
know
it's
because
they're
the
bad
operators.
Yes,
there
is
a
couple
bad
operators
in
Jacksonville,
Beach
right
now,
I'm
not
going
to
name
any
names,
but
that's
not
to
say
that
you
know
we're
not
all.
E
On
the
same
side,
I
mean
we
have
a
problem
with
that
too.
We
don't.
We
don't
want
that.
That
video
showed
a
little
bit
of
a
clip
that
ocean
Grill.
Those
were
people
within
a
lot
of
hand,
not
people
that
were
just
waiting
in
line.
Those
are
people
that
we
we
don't
want.
The
birthright.
Neither
I
mean
this
is
what
it
is,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
we
have
you
know
it's
clear.
We
have
a
problem.
We
just
have
to
identify
the
problem.
The
problem
is
during
the
peak
hours.
You
know
it
gets
overwhelming.
E
It's
a
lot
of
traffic.
It
comes
in
from
in
town,
we're
the
only
public
beach
that
you
know
they
can
go
to.
You
know
what
it
is.
So
what
you
did
you
have
to
think
this?
How
can
you
solve
the
problem?
You
know
for
those
ten
hours
and
that's
not
necessarily
to
just
take
the
license
away.
You
know
we're
all
willing
to
chip
in
and
no
good
operators
out
there.
You
know
everybody's
ready
to
tip
in
to
do
our
part.
Do
what
we
need
to
do.
E
Okay,
then,
and
you
know
they
could
be
won
a
couple
different
ways.
We
can
do
the
Ambassador
Program,
which
I've
been
saying
for
years.
We
could
do
the
you
know
where
we
have
these,
like
you
said
there
was
morning
officers,
but
you
know
they
were
on
the
security
they
help.
It
helps
with
with
you
know,
deterring
thanks
from
happening.
The
other
way
that
we
can
help.
Is
you
guys
give
us
some
kind
of
authority
to
create
an
association?
You
know
where
the
collective
business
is
in
Jax
beach.
E
You
know
we
all
just
kind
of
keep
an
eye
out
and
say:
hey
look.
You
guys
are
doing
something
wrong
and
you
know
you
guys
got
to
fix
that
you'll
be
surprised
how
much
willing
to
help
you
notice.
There
is
this
misconception
that
there
is
not
two
sides
to
this:
the
residents
and
but
that's
not
that's
not.
E
A
G
Yes,
sir
Thank
You
mayor
Steve,
even
out
here
on
behalf
of
mr.
Valentino
dollar
monthly
retreat.
Mr.
Valentino
is
out
of
town
and
asked
me
to
relay
to
you
as
his
appreciation
for
having
a
workshop
of
giving
in
the
opportunity
to
share
his
thoughts.
Clearly
he
understands
that
there's
an
issue
in
Jacksonville
Beach.
Any
reasonable
person
would
agree
that
something
needs
to
be
done
to
address
the
issues
that
were
shown
on
the
videos
and
that
no
one
that's
reasonable
would
agree
that
things
should
stay
the
way
they
are.
G
He
very
much
appreciates
the
relationship
that
he
has
with
the
Jacksonville
Beach
Police
Department.
His
restaurants
been
here
for
quite
some
time
and
he
feels
like
he
has
a
great
working
relationship
with
the
police
department
on
boys
issues
whenever
they
need
help.
The
police
are
always
there
to
work
with
them,
but
he
also
believes
that
going
to
an
extreme
example
of
just
closing
restaurants
or
limiting
their
ability
to
serve
a
full
complement
of
services
is
a
pretty
extreme
issue.
Obviously
we
don't
have
a
specific
piece
of
legislation
in
front
of
us
to
talk
about.
G
D
G
Drinker
is
different
than
a
bar
liquor,
drinker,
which
is
different
than
a
packaged
Florida
liquor
drinker,
so
that
when
you
close
one
type
of
business,
it's
justified
that
you're
allowing
a
different
business
to
stay
open.
You
have
to
distinguish,
because
you
saw
in
the
video
some
of
those
fights
were
outside
of
bars.
G
The
call
that
was
mentioned
by
the
chief
was
to
a
bar
not
to
a
restaurant,
and
so
you
know
it's
icy
when
you
start
drawing
lines
on
which
businesses
can
stay
open,
which
ones
can
be
closed,
and
so
you
have
to
be
very
thoughtful
about
that.
Mr.
Valentino
again,
I
think
what
he
would
ask
is
that
again
recognizing
that
there's
a
problem.
He
appreciates
the
first
step
of
having
a
workshop
similar
to
the
last
speaker.
H
H
H
H
H
I
thought
they
coming
into
the
event
hall
by
going
to
pictures,
you
know
concerning
pictures
everything,
but
they
can't
lead
up
into
the
event
hall.
We're
talking
7:30
almost
so
over
hours
puts
my
12.
If
I
have
to
get
a
knob
by
12,
I
gotta
start
getting
market
11:30
so
again,
I
know.
That's
me.
I
already
have
the
parking
issues
we
face
every
day.
That's
a
second
ask
questions
other
than
if
I
have
the
baby
available.
H
I
Three
minutes:
9
10
March
2007
till
afternoon
I,
first
of
all
have
a
very
strong
supporter
of
those
resolutions
that
use
alcohol
sales
to
be
based
on
one
video,
desperate
times
call
for
desperate
measures,
and
it's
unfortunate
that
we're
even
having
this
meeting
but
I.
Thank
the
council
for
addressing
the
public
safety
risks
that
we
have
in
our
bits
right
now.
I
One
thing
should
be
made
clear,
though
this
is
not
going
to
fix
everything
we'll
just
simply
start
regretting
what
we
want
to
become
I
want
to
relate
to
you
on
Saturday
July,
the
21st,
my
wife
and
I.
The
5:30
p.m.
I
last
night
took
a
drive
down.
First
thing
we
saw
was
someone
big
handcuffed
in
the
sneakers
parking
lot.
We
continued
north
on
First
Street
and
it
looked
like
it
goes
down
from
Sydney's
the
ocean
grill,
no
lines.
I
I
And
you
have
to
ask
yourself:
what's
the
difference?
The
difference
is
we
lack
true
restaurants.
So
if
the
restaurants
want
to
help
the
first
thing
they
can
give
us,
we
press
cons,
okay,
and
so
we
say
you
know,
by
obligation
they're
supposed
to
sell
51%
of
the
gross
revenues
food.
So
let's
do
that
sniffed
em
to
some
of
the
restaurants
with
restaurants
on
First
Avenue
first
rate
could
be
the
ocean
grill,
pier
Cantina,
Sydney
I
need
to
call
them
out
my
name,
but
they've
already
been
called
out
of
the
beaches
leader.
I
So
here's
what
we
got
take
a
look
at
those
when
were
the
last
time.
Anybody
in
this
audience
went
there
for
brunch
or
lunch
or
took
their
significant
other
for
dinner.
Okay,
you
know
it
really
doesn't
pass
the
test
on
whether
it
restaurant,
let's
do
a
compare
contrast
with
other
top
fours
in
Jax
beach,
pier
Cantina
Vic
versus
talking
to
Lou
Sydney's
Australian,
water
versus
Outback,
Ocean,
real
versus
salt,
like
a
BB
which
doesn't
have
a
Mediterranean
counterpart.
But
let's
call
small
business
like
mulatos.
I
Do
this
belly
cut
for
our
exes
I
feel
pretty
comfortable
saying
if
they
were
downtown,
we
would
be
having
this
workshop
today.
Okay,
those
businesses-
they
look
at
the
other
28
local,
four-top,
SRX
they're,
making
money,
because
we're
going
to
hear
this
is
impacting
their
profits.
I
tell
those
businesses
be,
don't
be
myopic.
There
are
other
ways
to
make
money
citizens
of
this
community
of
driving
by
the
CBD
on
a
daily
basis.
At
lunch,
breakfast
dinner
and
they're,
going
to
other
places,
these
businesses
can
make
money.
C
C
C
C
And
actually
serve.
Maybe
you
should
speak
on
my
investor,
because
speaking
that
fact
like
that
stating
that
especially
when
you're
throwing
numbers
people
on
for
you
know,
I
can
pull
everything
that
I
am
a
fully
restaurant
that
serves
to
mostly
food.
So,
yes,
I,
take
offense
to
that.
That
being
said,
I
have
been
there
for
five
years
now,.
C
I've
been
here,
fighting
it
and
maybe
the
first
year
in
the
second
year,
I
was
fooling
you
and
still
kind
of
figuring
out
the
city
and
what
works.
But
then
I
thought
to
myself.
You
know
what,
if
I
sit
down
with
the
police
and
they're
here,
so
they
can,
they
can
actually
talk
to
me.
I
can
actually
sit
down
and
see.
What
do
I
need
to
be
able
to
do
on
my
part
to
make
you
know
to
make
sure
that
everything
it
goes,
the
way
the
students
and
anything
it's
fine.
C
You
know
parts
of
them
own
to
the
beach,
so
I
sit
down.
We
need
sat
down
I
to
their
point
source
of
my
course.
I
am
the
restaurant,
who
teaches
who
gets
the
employees
certified
on
alcohol
awareness
I
do
not
over
serve
had
the
fake
IDs
had
to
do
everything
it's
about
alcohol
I
was
I've,
had
a
DDT,
do
it
for
so
long
and
finally,
I
went
to
see
Jack
speech
police
because
I
figured
that's
a
better
afternoon,
I'm,
very
idea
what
to
do
coming
from
them
and
they've
down
the
classes
in
my
stature.
C
I
also
have
hired
I.
Have
my
own
security,
one
of
them
it's
over
here,
that's
the
one
who
can
couldn't
talk.
I
also
have
my
own
security
that
I've
had
from
the
beginning
of
the
summer,
and
I
will
continue
to
have
through
the
winter.
Then
I
get
even
with
I'm.
You
know
like
whether
it's
this
peak
of
the
business
or
not
I
will
talk
of
that
that
she
got
showing
their
work.
C
He
said
it
was
not
a
policeman
that
is
my
extra
security
that
I
paid
to
be
at
the
door
to
make
sure
that
nothing
that
or
anything
that
in
control
proud
to
make
sure
that
everything
goes
smooth
in
my
restaurant
and
by
the
records
you
can
see
now
do
a
my
oceanfront
and
I
am
the
busiest
area.
Yes,
sir
I
am
so
yes
I'm,
not
so
like
when
you
have
to
drive
up
there.
C
If
you
look
at
that,
restroom
I
mean
literally
the
restaurant,
whose
mostly
visited
by
the
future
daughter,
and
so
you
can't
say
something
like
that.
Well,
I
think
I
have.
If
you
come
to
my
restaurant,
you
see
the
menu,
it
is
a
full
menu.
So
that
means
that
yes,
food
cost,
you
eat
that
food
is
the
most
important
part
to
me.
It's
not
the
alcohol
but
am
I
the
one
who
ten
to
two
does
that
do
I
get
a
good
amount
of
people,
but
I
done
my
call.
C
So
if
I
have
to
do
my
party
I
gotta
go
the
extra
mile
to
do
my
part
to
work
with
it
with
the
police.
To
do
the
extra
I
mean
then
I
should
not
be
like.
You
know
a
collateral
damage
to
what
you're
you
know
to
everybody's
with
what
they
actually
have
a
problem,
so
that
means
ended
if
I
would
do
anything
as
long
as
I
can
communicate
it.
Instead
of
staying
to
Hank
we're
just
going
to
take
your
license
away,
I'm
open,
we
should
anybody
else
wish
to
speak.
C
D
Closed
the
restaurants
at
midnight,
I
think
you
want
to
close
the
bars
at
one
o'clock
and
if
you
want
to
look
like
the
solution
to
all
the
Jacksonville
Beach,
it's
not
fair
to
do
it.
To
summarize
for
us
and
not
for
others,
your
big
problem
is
alcohol,
a
little
progress
and
maturity,
and
the
other
solution
is
just
don't
let
anybody
survive
in
the
Jacksonville
Beach.
D
As
well
now,
you
guys
really
know
what's
going
on,
but
it's
also
a
Jacksonville
issue.
When
the
people
from
in
town,
the
violence
in
town
is
spreading
to
Jackson
or
each
already
spread
to
town
center
with
us
for
three
individuals
were
shot.
That
rigid
originated
the
year
and
a
half
ago
from
that
incident
when
they
shot
up
a
whole
party
given
14
year
old
skill.
That
being
said,
what
would
happen
to
those
four
individuals
would
have
come
to
the
beaches?
You
would
have
had
three
people
shot,
one
in
the
hospital.
D
Now,
of
course,
you
know
some
bad
actors,
they're,
not
really
following
the
rules
and
slacking
off.
We
have
this
bar
restaurants.
Have
a
CDL,
regular
restaurants
have
regular
drivers
license,
while
I
have
explained
some
people
like
well,
if
you
have
a
CDL,
you
have
to
protect
that
license.
You
can't
get
a
speeding
ticket.
You
can
get
a
deal
while
you
lose
that
license.
So
for
us,
it's
important
to
protect
our
business
by
any
means
necessary.
We
have
to
be
straight
up
doors.
D
Whether
it's
outside
certain
bars
the
certain
restaurants,
some
of
those
people
to
live
here
which
people
are
going
to
visit
Jackson
beaches
matter.
What?
But
it's
unfortunate
the
violence
in
downtown
I
mean
in
Jacksonville,
it's
quitted
Jackson
elite.
This
Jacksonville
Beach
does
not
go
for
any
buttons,
maybe
theft,
jumping
disorderly
I
mean
how
often
do
we
get
murders
here
once
you
hear
everybody
shoot
at
me
like
that,
because
here
in
Jacksonville
Beach
the
residents
are
with
people
there's
no
people
everywhere.
D
A
A
A
A
If
you
look
at
the
number
of
licenses
right
now,
they're
the
40s
for
COPD
SRX,
there's
about
thirty
five
level.
Out
of
this
thirty-five,
there
are
I
think
four
that
close
at
2:00
a.m.
every
day
of
the
week
and
the
rest
of
them
close
two
o'clock
on
Thursday
as
of
Friday
or
Fridays
and
Saturdays,
and
that's
the
based
on
their
own
websites.
That's
what
I'm
getting
that
information
from.
A
We
saw
one
incident
of
a
restaurant
on
the
last
sections
of
video
when
asked
for
a
menu
said
we
stopped
serving
food,
ok,
I'll
have
that
same
person
or
that
same
restaurant
will
come
up
and
say
that's
my
best
two
hours,
that's
from
midnight.
It's
up
two
o'clock.
You
can't
take
this
two
hours
away
from
me,
so
you're
telling
me
that
your
food
sales
are
greater
from
midnight
to
2:00
o'clock
in
the
line.
You
know,
that's
not
the
case.
A
There's
no
doubt
in
my
mind
that
the
first
positive
step
that
we
take
is
the
council.
This
is
safeguard
the
safety
of
our
citizens.
We
have
not
just
an
obligation
to
do.
We
have
a
moral
obligation,
as
elected
officials,
to
provide
safest,
possible
possible
environment
for
citizens,
so
I
feel
very
strongly
that
we
move
forward
with
this
process
of
the
restaurant
that
we
make
a
modification
to
the
existing
alcohol
ordinance.
A
B
As
far
as
the
horseman
goes,
we
if
we
encounter
someone
who
walks
out
the
door
with
a
drink
or
something
like
that.
Obviously
those
are
easy
catches
for
us.
If
we're
going
to
go
into
the
restaurants
and
monitor
their
food
sales.
Things
like
that,
it's
much
more
difficult,
because
we
have
to
take
officers
that
would
normally
be
working
in
uniform,
but
then
in
plain
clothes
or
with
our
confidential
informants
or
people
for
the
beverage
department,
which
is
maybe
once
or
twice
a
year
and
get
them
to
work
with
us
to
police
those.
B
If
we
want
to
see
over
a
period
of
the
next
few
weeks,
we'll
go
to
all,
but
it's
labor
intensive
and
when
I
take
those
officers
and
have
to
put
four
or
five
of
those
officers
and
plainclothes
to
find
violations
inside
of
the
establishments,
then
that's
fewer
officers
that
I
have
on
the
street
that
are
in
uniform.
So
when
I
had
that
crowd
dumping
out
at
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
from
both
the
restaurants
in
the
bars
that
makes
it
much
more
difficult
to
control
this
crowd.
B
So
that's
kind
of
the
quagmire
of
the
enforcement
part
of
it
it's
difficult
to
enforce.
We
have
had
work
since
the
conception
of
D
of
the
alcohol
ordinance.
We
have
had
seven
establishments
permit
suspended
by
the
magistrate.
Those
are
have
all
been
SRX
licenses.
None
of
those
have
been
full
court
licenses.
This
answer
your
questions.
Yes,.
B
The
first
offense
is
thirty
days,
but
it's
up
to
the
magistrate
she
sure
has
the
ability
to
go
up
to
90
days.
On
the
first
time
there
from
the
magistrate
and
I
believe
that
has
happened
in
the
past,
but
generally
it's
30
days
right
now,
I
believe
we
have
one
under
suspension.
This
is
currently
active
suspension
of
their
permit.
There
might
be
a
couple
others
right
now
with
the
magistrate
for
the
next
month's
hearings,
but
over
the
course
of
the
time
with
that
permit
has
been
in
place.
B
F
B
To
do
with
the
state,
and
that's
because
the
state
regulates
that
themselves,
if
someone
versus,
if
we
have
information
that
the
restaurant
is
not
serving
food
properly
or
something
to
that
effect,
we
can
report
that
to
the
beverage
Department.
If
we
don't
have
like
a
video
here,
this
video
evidence
of
an
improvement
they
they
won't
make
a
case.
They
may
come
out
and
do
an
inspection
themselves
or
send
their
own
liver
covers
in
there.
B
B
A
If
I
could
just
add
in
the
same
discussion
early
on
I
asked
about
the
enforcement
opportunities,
what
the
frequencies
were
and
I
remember
very
vividly.
You
told
me
at
one
point
shortly
after
I
had
started
asking
those
questions
that
they
had
said
very
clearly
that
if
we
give
them
a
leap
to
the
bar,
they
get
out,
there
can't
find
problem
just
say
goodbye.
We're
not
going
to
do
that.
That's
correct,
so
I
mean
that's.
B
In
public
or
actually
underage
drinking,
at
big
events
go
through
and
walk
on
the
beach
and
Fox
about
underage
people.
How
do
you
solve
it?
There?
Fourth
of
July
this
year,
people
your
age.
They
do
a
really
good
job
with
that,
but
I
don't
think
they
do
as
well.
That's
good
of
a
job
when
it
comes
to
actually
going
into
the
restaurants
and
bars
and
making
sure
everybody
thinks.
H
F
Everywhere
and
then
my
next
question
about
a
is
quarter
harvest.
City
attorney.
Can
we
really
do
this
in
one
area
like
an
old
business
district
without
affecting
the
whole
city,
or
do
we
have
to
make
an
appointment?
The
whole
city
isn't
that
debate.
This
isn't
and
the
whole
city
has
to
abide
by
this
rule.
D
F
What
are
we
trying
to
and
if
we
direct,
we
have
evidence
showing
like
the
evidence.
We
just
saw
that
we
have
some
significant
safety
issues
in
a
certain
area
and
that
it
perhaps
is
over
taxing
our
law
enforcement
department,
and
that
is
what
we're
hearing
is
that
our
law
enforcement
department
is
struggling
to
handle
these
crowds
when
they're
being
led
out
of
the
restaurants
and
bars
at
the
same
time.
So
one
of
the
concepts
is
to
have
a
tiered
system
where
some
earlier
time.
B
I
think
most
of
the
bars
them
on
the
weekends
operate
very
close
capacity.
You
see
the
lines
that
are
out
there
for
those
bars.
They
are
very,
very
cognizant
of
what
their
firearms
churches
are
for
the
number
of
occupants
each
building
that's
allowed
to
have.
So
there
are
lines
at
the
bars
and
there's
probably
going
to
continue
to
be
lines
at
the
bars.
B
But
if,
if
we
have
the
the
restaurants
closed
say
at
midnight,
some
of
those
people
may
go
and
wait
in
line
to
get
into
a
bar,
but
they
can
only
pick
so
many
people
in
the
establishments
that
we
have
in
the
downtown
area.
So
for
a
while
wait
in
those
lines
and
other
times,
I
think
they're
going
to.
Let's
go.
Take
me
more
than
40
minutes
to
get
in
there
more
than
power
get
in
work.
I
can't
say
for
sure.
B
B
They
become
impassable
because
of
the
pedestrian
traffic,
but
the
cars
are
still
going
down
the
street
and
this
design
is
the
traffic
that
was
very
slowly
can
have
a
lot
of
officers
out
there,
but
that's
also
how
levels
might
start,
because
so
many
places
are
closing
at
one
time
all
those
people
are
being
finding
out
into
the
common
areas
at
one
point
in
time,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that's
creating
a
major
major
safety
concern
for
us.
That's
when
the
flanks
break
down,
that's
when
the
officers
are
getting
hurt.
B
B
With
computers
that
I
did,
that
showed
where
they've
done
this
at
other
locations
that
have
the
stack
of
clothes,
it
has
it's
not
the
magic
wand.
It's
not
going
to
fix
much
like
mr.
Marshall.
It's
not
going
to
fix
all
of
our
problems,
but
it's
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
To
start
to
make
a
change
so.
I
I
I
Is
it's
incredible?
Miss
Wilson
would
take
a
walk
through
there
1:00
in
the
morning.
It's
not
a
family
place
to
me.
I
assure
you
that,
and
that's
really
all
I
have
but
I
do
have
a
question
for
our
council
here,
I'm
all
for
them.
We
had
reference
where
they
were.
We
had
to
get
them
to.
They
were
moving
all
their
tables
and
making
room
for
people
to
consume
alcohol.
I
F
B
F
I
B
Business,
that's
correct,
usually
from
about
1:15.
Any
of
the
cards
that
are
available
in
the
outlying
areas
are
gonna
call
for
service
generally
start
to
move
into
the
downtown
area
to
maintain
a
heavy
presence
down
there.
It's
not
a
standing
order
or
anything,
that's
just
what
sergeants
do,
because
we
want
to
try
to
alleviate
promise
proactively.
So
our
presence
in
some
cases
does
that,
but
in
other
cases
you
consider
that
one
fight
at
least
we're
right
there
on
a
corner
and
they
don't
care.
I
B
B
But
we
have
not
had
any
suspensions
at
any
of
the
local
licensed
establishments
since
the
inception
of
the
ordinance.
It's
not
because
we
haven't
tested
their
system
any
more
or
less
than
any
other
establishments.
It's
some
of
them
have
received
warnings
but
they're
our
first
Notice
of
Violation
that
nobody's
received
the
second
required
magistrate.
J
And
wary
of
creating
new
legislation
on
something
that
maybe
it's
already
there,
that
we
could
already
either
better
enforce
or
do
so
just
wanted
to
ask
a
few
questions
on
that
yeah
we
mentioned
the
cave
officers
work
with
the
businesses
downtown
for
training
on
alcohol
service
and
things
that
you,
you
said
voluntary.
So
how.
E
B
J
F
F
J
B
B
B
H
J
B
B
Those
violations
through
through
the
fire
code
and
also
through
zoning
and
any
other
organizations,
those
all
count
toward
a
violation
that
could
potentially
taken
a
business
in
front
of
the
magistrate.
So
if
they
get
a
warning
through
the
fire
department
through
the
code
enforcement
officers,
that
could
potentially
take
them
in
front
of
the
magistrate
as
well.
Okay,.
F
J
One
thing
that
if
you
give
the
meth
is
that
we
don't
also
have
the
Community
Redevelopment
Agency
here,
which
is
the
organization
that
is
charged
with
working
on
development
and
economic
prosperity
of
our
downtown
area.
Making
these
all
go
hand-in-hand
and
for
me,
there's
a
bigger
picture
here
beyond
just
this
this
problem
and
that's
that
we
need
to
also
look
at
the
bigger
picture
of
our
downtown
and
the
fact
that
the
brick
and
mortar
really
needs
to
change.
When
you
look
at
these
two
am
videos
and
the
streets
are
packed.
J
If
you
look
at
that,
video
at
6:00
p.m.
it
be
a
ghost
town
is
mr.
Marsh
noticed
and
then
also
somebody
mentioned,
creating
an
association
of
restaurants,
downtown
restaurants.
You
don't
need
our
authority
to
do
that.
I,
wouldn't
think
that
that
you
only
need
the
authority
that
the
members
of
that
organization
would
grant
you,
so
it
definitely
encouraged
that,
but
as
far
as
the
piña
Redevelopment
Agency
is
concerned,
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
opportunity
here
and
we've
been
really
scared,
scared
or
timid
or
whatever,
to
really
reach
out
and
utilize
that
opportunity.
J
For
example,
we
have
four
major
properties
for
sale
in
the
downtown
business
district
right
now:
the
property
ocean
thrill
building
that
we
water
or
water
any
locals
or
sorry
city
bar
and
local
sedan,
the
coral
reef
and
the
empty
lot
behind
James
Johnson
gallery.
So
there's
four
huge
pieces
of
property
that
if
we
play
our
cards
right,
we
really
change
the
face
of
downtown
really
quickly.
J
And
if
you
know
again,
if
we
do
it
the
right
way
and
we
work
hand
in
hand
with
the
new
business
owners
could
really
be
a
positive
thing
for
downtown
and
I
went
and
did
some
research
on
the
Florida
redevelopment
Association
site
they
have
a
before
and
after.
And
you
can't
see
this
Jacksonville
Beach
and
from
this
perspective
the
only
thing
different
in
this
before
and
after
is
the
pavers
on
1st
Street
and
that's
a
very,
very
isolated
picture.
J
I
understand
that,
like
time
to
start
using
the
Redevelopment
Agency,
the
way
that
we
can
and
should,
and
that
is
to
work
on
the
economic
development
and
prosperity
of
our
downtown.
And
if
you
look
at
job
postings
on
the
floor
redevelopment
Association
website,
one
of
the
most
common
ones
is
an
economic
development
coordinator.
J
So
we
could
have
someone
like
that
whose
job
is
to
know
these
business
owners
to
know
that
people
that
are
looking
at
opening
a
business
in
Jacksonville
Beach
to
work
with
them
to
come
up
with
enticements
or
abductions,
to
break
the
businesses
that
we
want
in
Jacksonville
Beach
here
and
show
that
we're
extending
our
hand
out
to
the
businesses
instead
of
grabbing
a
hammer
on
them,
which
we
need
to
do
it
when
we
need
to
do
it.
But
I'd
rather
take
that
full
longview
approach
to
Jacksonville
Beach,
and
that
does
anybody
else.
D
Mr.
Olsen
I'm
kind
of
echoing
I
guess
the
last
part
of
Chris's
commentaries
where
I
would
go.
I
think
that,
after
this
I
think
that
we
should
have
a
roundtable
discussion
with
all
of
those
businesses
in
the
CBD
is
that
if
this
would
even
be
considered
I
think
that
would
be
where
I
will
focus.
You
know
when
you
extended
beyond
that,
but
I
think
that
would
involve
some
roundtables
gated
with
everybody
that
has
an
SRX
license
in
the
CBD
I
think
that
we
should
be
open
to
all
suggestions
discussions.
D
So
I
think
part
of
that
discussion
in
the
roundtable
discussion
for
me
would
be,
let's
start
with.
If
we
do
take
away
the
extended
hours
for
those
types
of
businesses.
What
can
we
do?
Is
the
sea
to
make
up
for
that
time
that
we're
taking
away
whether
that
be
give
you
city
parking
lease
parking
offer
about
late
service
as
a
city
that
we
pay
for
it
offer
other
and
some
monetary
incentives
to
fill
that
void.
All
of
that
would
be
on
the
table
for
me
at
and
I.
D
We
have
a
lot
of
successful
restaurant
tours
at
our
beaches.
That
I
think
that
we
could
even
reach
out
to
for
opportunities
for
them
to
come
in
and
do
a
restaurant,
but
I
think
that
would
be
part
of
a
roundtable
discussion
with
everybody
that
has
those
licenses
before
I
just
went
ahead
and
said:
okay,
we
need
to
take
it
away.
I
think
that
part
of
that
would
be.
What
can
we
do
for
you
in
order
for
you
to
be
able
to
succeed
if
you
did
close
it?
D
A
A
Restaurants
were
to
close
at
midnight
where,
where
they
go,
I
think
that
there's
there's
an
amount
of
people
that
would
leave.
There's
there's
several
I'm
sure
that
we're
trying
to
state
the
capacities
for
the
bars
aren't
going
to
change.
There's
lines
outside
of
those
bars
now,
in
some
cases,
all
the
way
around
the
block.
So
those
restaurants
closed
at
midnight.
I,
don't
think
that
they're
going
to
be
partying
in
the
streets,
I
think
they're
going
to
get
someplace
where
they
can
find
out.
A
The
lines
are
full
in
Jackson
the
beaches
are
around
the
building's
they're
going
to
get
somewhere
else,
probably
also
on
the
I
took
a
lot
of
calls
and
I
say
this
with
all
sincerity:
Department
personnel
to
the
phone
calls
that
I
took
from
residents
weren't
in
favor
of
modifying
the
ordinance
to
do
this.
Some
of
you
here
in
this
room.
A
That's
the
quiet
group
of
people
that
don't
want
to
call
attention
to
themselves
and
that's
what
we
get
paid
to
represent
as
when
those
people
call
and
stand
up
for
them
as
well.
So,
just
because
you're
not
hearing
them
here
tonight
doesn't
mean
their
honesty
right
then,
for
the
suit
I
keep
as
we're
going
through
these
discussions
and
these
specials.
We
were
watching
that
video
that
one
mark
that
kept
going
through
my
mind
over
and
over
again
was
Chicago.
A
Chicago
was
waiting
on
their
own
for
things
to
change
and
they're,
not
changing
for
the
better
they're
changing
from
the
worst.
We
here
cannot
do
that.
We
can't
do
that
in
our
beautiful
coastal
community.
We
can't
just
wait
for
things
to
change.
Quite
frankly,
we've
done
that
for
the
last
five
years,
and
you
know
we've
added
a
couple
police
officers
and
we
changed
a
couple
of
policies,
and
here
we
are
right
back
to
where
we
were
this
all
began.
So
I
feel
very
strongly
that
it's
time
for
us
to
take
some
action.
A
The
residential
watch
is
a
police
officer,
as
I
said
arrived
with
the
police
several
times
when
130
rolls
around
and
everybody
comes
downtown
to
escort
people
out
of
the
area,
many
of
which
are
every
night.
Just
like
you
saw
in
that
video
all
those
police
officers
being
taken
away
from
your
homes
in
your
neighborhood
and
they're
downtown,
taking
all
these
people
and
pushing
them
through
the
system
to
get
them
out
of
our
area,
and
that's
something
that
you
should
consider
as
well.
A
B
A
A
A
Italian
Norma's
kitchen
Outback,
Steakhouse,
Rory's
salt
way
top
of
the
loo
terminal
Japanese.
These
are
successful,
thriving
restaurants
in
Jacksonville
Beach
and
there's
no
reason
that
the
other
two
can't
be
successful.
Thriving
the
restaurants
and
I
just
have
to
say
one
last
thing:
I've
seen
it
with
my
own
eyes,
dozens
and
dozens
of
time.
You
can
stand
here
till
the
Sun
Goes
Around
a
hundred
times,
but
I'm
telling
you
a
lot
of
these
bad
actors
was
create.
The
majority
of
these
problems
in
our
downtown
become
bars
around
and
in.
Why
that's
problem?
A
Is
it
intensifies
the
number
of
people
that
come
into
our
community?
That's
our
do-over
stress
from
the
people
that
are
at
the
legitimate
bars
and
it
creates
that
much
more
core
problem
for
our
police
officers
downtown,
so
I
felt
very
strongly
that
we
continue
to
move
forward.
You
know
we
are
most
of
us
who
are
elected
together
for
five
and
a
half
six
years
ago.
We
all
set
as
Chrissa
at
the
same
thing.
A
Over
and
over
again
downtown
we've
got
to
get
it
under
control,
gotta
get
our
downtown
under
control,
whistles
not
going
to
do
it.
We
need
to
take
some
positive
action
to
make
this
start
to
get
better.
Can
we
change
the
be
here?
Maybe
you
know?
Maybe
we
need
to
include
restaurants
with
me
when
we
can
relax
the
SRS.
I
In
that
case,
it
was
mentioned
that
parking
is
a
problem.
They
really
got
a
big
problem,
but
anyway
we
we've
been
on
those
issues.
I've
been
on
council
Bonin
all
since
2004,
and
this
has
just
gotten
worse
and
worse,
but
it
was
mention
these
high-rises
that
are
about
to
come
in
here
and
they're.
Just
gonna
be
a
tremendous
asset,
our
community,
the
difference
to
me
of
Atlantic
and
Neptune
in
Jax,
beach
and
I
do
go
to
both
and
tonight.
I
I
went
to
a
restaurant
here,
the
closes
I,
don't
know
and
they're
quite
successful,
but
when
you
go
to
a
blank
or
Neptune
Beach
and
temporary
or
well
I,
don't
eat
a
like.
But
anyway,
when
you
go
there,
it's
just
the
handling
freely
and
I
would
challenge
that.
Everyone
on
this
council
ran
to
make
this
city
more
family-friendly.
I
A
Okay,
it's
my
intent
to
bring
forward
through
the
city
eternally,
so
the
city
manager
photos,
modifications
or
existing
alcohol
ordinance
unless
there's
at
least
four,
does
anybody
object
moving
forward?
This
is
a
situation
where
we
go
through
the
standard
two-week
process.
Public
would
be
the
last.