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From YouTube: Community Redevelopment Agency Workshop (7/13/2022)
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A
Okay,
let
the
records
show
it
is
wednesday
july
the
13th.
It
is
three
o'clock,
and
this
is
a
community
redevelopment
agency
workshop
meeting.
We'll
call
this
meeting
to
order
that
clerk.
B
All
right
good
afternoon,
as
I
was
saying
before
this
is
the
the
current
layout
as
planned
for
the
project,
what
we
call
projects
four
and
five
of
the
of
the
downtown
district.
This
is
this
was
updated
yesterday,
as
of
the
latest
and
greatest
of
everything.
We've
got
up
up
until
this
week's
comments.
B
We've
looked
through.
All
of
the
all
of
the
public
comments
from
both
meetings.
B
We
believe
we've
addressed
everything
had
a
memo
attached
to
today's
meeting,
to
kind
of
give
you
the
the
parameters
of
where
this
began
and
how
the
project
was
expected
to
be
designed
as
a
continuation
of
projects,
one
two
three,
which
is
the
drainage
part
of
it,
four,
five
and
six,
so
that
this
is
kind
of
a
continuation
of
the
original
2007
vision
plan
for
the
downtown
area.
B
We
have
done
our
best
to
accommodate
every
person's
suggestions
of
input
as
best
we
could
keep
in
mind.
We
had
some
come
in
and
said
we
want
absolutely
no
public
parking
and,
if
you
remember
from
my
memo,
public
parking
was
one
of
the
things
we
were
tasked
with
trying
to
increase
and
address.
So
obviously
the
blanket
statement
of
we
don't
want
any
can't
really
be
fixed
at
this
point.
So
what
we've
done
is
we've
looked
a
lot
of
the
one-offs.
B
Some
of
them
were
related
to
the
age
of
the
map
underneath
so
people
had
made
changes
to
their
property.
Some
properties
have
been
bulldozed
and
changed
completely
compared
to
what
this
map
was.
Some
places
had
duplexes
a
and
b,
but
when
you
drove
by
and
it
looked
like
a
single
resident,
so
you
had
no
idea
that
it
was
an
a
and
b
until
people
reached
out
and
said,
hey
wait
a
minute.
B
B
This
is,
this
is
all
available
on
the
current
project
website.
They
just
updated
it.
They
actually
updated
it
last
thursday
to
show
this
map
is
now
the
one
when
you
get
to
the
when
you
scroll
to
the
very
bottom
of
the
project,
and
you
can
play
around
and
zoom
in
on
the
map.
This
is
the
map.
You'll
see
that's
what's
there,
so
that's,
what's
put
back
out
there
now
and
that's
updated
too.
Is
there
a
map
that
shows
where
it
was
before
no
yeah
just
that
we
updated
the
base
map
to
show?
C
B
From
from
the
original
meeting
with
me
as
well
from
what
we
had
before,
but
it's
hard
to
really
adjust
all
of
those
changes.
Gary
asked
the
question:
how
do
you
tell
public
parking
versus
driveways?
B
B
If
the
sidewalk
is
back
to
the
rear
property
line,
this
would
be
a
problem
that
would
be
a
driveway
yes,
so
we
tried
to
do
our
best
to
accommodate
all
of
the
individual
requests
as
best
we
could
and
as
well
as
some
of
the
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
discovered
in
our
process.
There's
a
big
apartment,
building
down
there
that
has
zero
parking.
They
they
were
constructed
back
in
the
1950s
I
understand,
and
their
building
was
allowed
to
be
built
with
no
parking.
B
It's
the
one
with
the
pool
is
one
more
block
down
that
all
the
three
grey
structures
were
cool,
that's
all
efficiency
apartments
and
they
have
absolutely
no
parking
on
their
own
property.
So
the
only
way
we
can
accommodate
that
is
with
public
parking.
B
So
this
is
the
latest
and
greatest
of
everything
that
we've
got
where
we're
at
right
now
is
they're
calling
this
kind
of
like
a
post
60,
so
we're
between
60
and
90.
As
soon
as
we
go
through
our
last
little
bits
of
things
to
make
sure
we've
got,
everybody's
comments
accounted
for.
We've
done
the
best
we
can
to
accommodate
those
that
we
can
then
they'll
make
it
update
to
90
percent.
B
At
that
point,
we'll
probably,
I
think
we're
planning
on
an
additional
one,
more
additional
public
meeting
again
to
roll
out
the
latest.
90
plans
after
that
input
we'll
make
the
final
tweaks
to
it.
The
plans
will
go
to
100
and
then
we'll
take
them
out
to
bid
from
there.
I.
A
Got
two
quick
questions
about
this
sit
down?
Yes,
sir,
is
all
these
new
roads?
Do
you
have
a
good
one
here
so
from
5th
avenue
south
down
to
10th
avenue?
Is
there
any
street
parking
along
the
street
on
any
one
of
these
roads?
Just.
B
A
B
This
roadway
will
be
reconfigured,
so
it's
not
as
wide
as
it
is
now
to
be
able
to
allow
the
parking
to
come
in
there.
So
the
the
road
is
now
wide
enough
to
kind
of
allow
two
lanes
plus
parking
it'll,
be
narrowed
up
in
the
process
of
rebuilding.
This
will
actually
narrow
the
roadway
down
to
a
standard
two
lanes
and
then
put
the
parking.
B
B
A
lot
of
different
things,
part
of
it
is,
is
where
it
lays
out
some
of
it.
It
was
driven
by
where
it
actually
ended
up
in
the
end
zones,
because
some
of
the
end
zones
actually
have
a
sidewalk
on
one
side
or
the
other.
So
we
tried
to
accommodate
that
to
make
to
make
it
move
through
as
best
we
could,
depending
on
what
side
of
the
street
it
might
be
on
versus
the
other
side.
B
B
Adjusted
per
the
upcoming
urban
trail
plan,
which
will
will
call
for
this
to
be
actually
part
of
the
urban
trail,
so
you'll
notice
that
this
sidewalk
is
significantly
wider,
with
less
parking.
That's
to
accommodate
that
as
part
of
the
urban
trail
to
be
able
to
get
that
traffic
east
and
into
the
park.
E
B
Could
be
several
different
things
sometimes
sometimes
along
first
street,
there
is
very
little
right
away,
so
the
curb
or
the
sidewalk
ends
up
being
right
behind
the
curb
other
places.
We
move
it
around
depending
on
what
the
parking
needs
are,
what
kind
of
driveways
they
might
have,
what
kind
of
parking
we
can
get
in
there.
So
it's
it's
just
trying
to
fit
it
in
the
best
possible
puzzle,
piece
that
there
is.
A
B
There's
no
parking
parking
here,
so
you've
got
public
parking
here
that
will
pull
up
to
the
raised
sidewalk
area,
and
here
there
is
no
public
parking
so
that
helped
drive
where
to
put
it
as
well
same
thing.
With
this
block,
there
was
not
any
public
parking
on
that
side
of
the
road,
so
they
pushed
it
out
to
the
curb.
B
Here
you
had
the
public
parking
and
it
kind
of
moved
back
and
forth,
but
some
of
it
depends
on
what
kind
of
driveways
we've
got,
what
kind
of
other
parking
lot
there
are
some
areas
where
there's
existing
sidewalks.
Already,
I
assume,
are
they
going
to
be
redone
or
are
they
anything
in
this
area?
Would
all
be
redone?
That
was
part
of
the
whole
entire
project
is
to
make
sure
that
it
all
does
look.
D
New,
so
I
think
that
there
were
based
on
the
comments.
There
were
some
parking
spots
that
were
eliminated
correct.
Were
there
ones
that
were
added?
I
don't
we
did
add
some.
Yes,
I
one
property
I'm
familiar
with.
I
didn't
think
that
parking
spots
there
and
it
looks
like
they
not
have
it
so.
B
They
they
had,
they
did
try
to
accommodate
additional
parking
where
possible.
The
matrix
is
obviously
overall
to
try
to
increase
it,
but
there
is
no
magic
number
that
says
how
much
we
want
to
increase
it.
We're
trying
to
we're
trying
to
balance
the
green
space
with
the
parking
versus
6th
street.
Had
our
6th
avenue
sorry
had
a
lot
of
concern
because
they
had
a
lot
of
public
parking
on
six
and
at
the
end
of
six,
is
where
the
park
parking
is
at.
B
E
B
B
We
tried
to
do
the
best
we
could
the
gentleman
and
his
wife
that
were
here
last
week
or
last
month
they
live
in
this
house,
and
there
was
originally
three
spaces
of
public
parking
here
and
five
spaces
of
public
parking
here.
So
we
tried
to
do
our
best
to
try
to
clean
up
some
of
that
to
accommodate
he's
also
got
some
very
large
palm
trees
and
such
by
the
driveway.
So
we
try
to
accommodate
that
to
not
have
to
have
them
eliminated
as
part
of
them.
F
B
Yes,
yeah
the
stuff:
that's
there
would
be
the
inclusion
of
some
of
the
sidewalks
on
the
west
side.
Some
of
that
may
be
due
to
the
utility
keep
in
mind.
This
is
this
is
simply
the
flat
work
map.
This
is
going
to
be
your
paving
and
your
sidewalk.
F
B
Got
to
do
with
the
stop
signs,
so
there
are
no
stop
signs
on
second
street
as
you
drive
south.
So
if
you
put
the
crosswalk
in
there,
then
you've
got
to
put
additional
signage
to
stop
the
traffic
from
going
so
right
now.
The
ones
that
are
here
are
accommodated
by
where
the
four-way
stops
are
at.
So
people
have
to
stop
that
directs
them
to
stop,
which
is
kind
of
why
you
see
them
running
north
on
the
north
and
south
road,
but
not
necessarily
on
the
east
and
west,
except
for
where
the
stops
are.
B
B
Each
end
zone
has
to
be
treated
different.
Some
of
them
have
have
dumpster
enclosures
that
have
been
allowed
over
the
years,
especially
that
one
there's
a
couple
of
entrances
actually
in
and
out
of
the
condo
unit.
That's
there
so
because
of
having
to
keep
the
entrances
in
and
out
or
to
keep
the
dumpster
enclosures.
Some
of
them
just
had
to
be
designed.
This
is
our
pretty
much
standard
design
in
on
one
side,
but
there's
some
of
them.
We
just
because
of
what
has
been
built
there
in
the
past.
G
A
few
questions
so,
when
I
went
through
and
walked
after
that
meeting
and
walked
this
whole
area,
there
are
some
properties
that
have
spent
a
significant
amount
of
money,
decorating
the
city
property,
basically
making
their
coffee
look
nice
so,
for
instance,
on
like
eight.
They
have
this
big
like,
but
basically
to
the
road.
I
know
that
it's
the
property,
but
when
we,
when
we
propose
this,
I
mean,
are
we
considering
leaving
some
of
the
driveways
as
they
are?
G
B
Existing
paper
driveway
would
be
removed,
the
roadway
would
be
complete
and
then
we
would
lay
their
papers
back
to
accommodate.
Now,
keep
in
mind
what
you
don't
see
on
a
two-dimensional
map
is
elevation,
so
it's
really
easy
to
say
well,
they
want
their
pavers
back,
but
their
driveway
may
slow.
Like
this.
We
raise
the
road
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
that
changes
how
the
pavers
have
to
be
relayed.
B
So
anybody
who
has
full
paver
driveways
if
they
have
revocable
right-of-way
permits,
which
is
a
key
for
public
works,
we
would
replace
their
pavers
if
not
we're
going
to
have
them
fill
out
a
revocable
right-of-way
permit
that
says
they're
allowed
to
have
those
pavers
and
then
we
would
put
them
back.
So
that's
been
a
change
since
the
first
meeting.
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
had
to
decide
internally
was:
how
were
we
going
to
treat
paver
driveways?
B
Were
we
simply
going
to
replace
every
concrete
apron
with
concrete,
and
that
was
going
to
be
the
uniform?
We
kind
of
talked
about
that
and
said
you
know.
People
have
made
significant
investments
in
the
paper
driveways.
It's
probably
best
to
accommodate
those.
As
best
we
can
as
as
just
part
of
our
plan,
so
if
you've
got
a
paper
apron,
it
would
be
put
back
in
the
paper
apron.
So.
G
The
that
extends
the
question
out
to
wall.
That
seems
like
a
real
word
thing,
but,
like
you
know,
some
of
them
have
I'm
just
I'm
just
asking
if
these
decorative
walls
are
protecting
their
plants
and
what
have
you?
So
I
guess
my
question
is:
is
a
part
of
this
able
to
be
like
you
know
what
what's
there
they
have
a
driveway
they've
decorated
that
driveway
there's
no.
B
H
G
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
this
is
going
to
look
like
if
they
don't
have
anything
adjusted
in
their
property
space
and
there's
well,
if
nothing
on
that
entire
side
of
the
street.
That's
one
story,
but
for
the
most
part,
you've
built
something
in
the
city
right
away.
There's
a
front
end.
Loader.
B
Coming
down
the
road
and
it's
taking
everything
out,
you
can't
sit
like
a
pick
and
choose
because
that
guy's
got
a
pretty
yard
that
kind
of
yeah.
We
will
do
our
best
to
accommodate
kind
of,
like
kind
of
like
mr
cincy,
I
like
to
bring
him
up,
because
he
had
some
really
good
examples.
He's
got
a
couple
of
ten
thousand
dollar
palm
trees
and
right
the
corners
of
his
driveway
area.
We're
gonna
do
our
best
to
save
those
in
essence,
they're
in
city,
right
away.
B
We
can
look
at
them
and
say
you
need
to
move
them
or
we
will
and
we're
not
going
to
move
them
as
nice
as
they
are,
but
we're
going
to
try
to
accommodate
those
if
they
can
be
salvaged
if
they
can
fit
with
the
plan.
We're
going
to
we're,
not
gonna
touch
them.
We're
not
gonna
mess
with.
If
it
does
we'll
have
to
have
a
conversation
with
the
property
owners
to
say
you
know
sorry,
there's
a
lot
of
property
owners
that
do
get
upset.
B
They've
been
here
a
million
years,
they've
mowed
this
for
a
million
years
and
they're
in
their
brain.
It's
their
property.
They've
tended
to
it
and
taken
care
of
it
and
now
we're
reclaiming
it,
so
those
issues
unfortunately
exist
no
matter
where
you're
at
north,
south,
east
or
west,
so
we
try
to
accommodate
those
as
best
we
can,
some
of
them
with
green
space.
If
we
can
do
it,
some
of
them
with
parking.
Some
of
them.
D
B
Was
okay?
Well,
you
can
still
make
comments
on
the
website
up
until
we
get
to
the
point
of
you
know
sending
it
out
to
bid
into
construction.
You
know
so
that
that
can
happen
today.
Somebody
can
get
on
look
at
the
latest
and
greatest
and
say:
hey
wait,
a
minute
this
changed
or
that
changed.
So
I
think
that's
part
of
our
plan
for
the
final
public
meeting.
B
I
don't
even
know
that
we
really
intentionally
have
another
public
meeting
scheduled,
but
I
think
our
intention
is
because
of
this
being
such
a
large
project,
we
intend
to
have
that
one
final
meeting
at
the
90
we've
already
done,
where
we've
posted
meetings
all
over
we've,
already
done
individual
mailers.
I
think
this
time
we're
going
to
go
with
the
third
alternative
of
doing
door
hangers.
So
if
anybody
at
this
at
the
end
of
this
meeting
says
they
didn't
get
it
well,
we
did
three
different
methods
to
get
you
notified
at
this
point.
F
B
Happened
so
we're
trying
to
accommodate
as
best
we
can
and
we'll
we'll
still
address
those
I
mean
we
we've
got
a
comment
in
I
think
monday.
You
know
again,
it's
not
been
adjusted.
There
is
one
other
piece
that
we're
looking
at,
but
I
know
that
we're
looking
at
adjusting
down
near
starbucks,
which
is
here
it
looks
like
he's,
already
moved
them.
We
chained
this
was
90
degree
parking
in
here
and
we
adjusted
it
to
be
parallel
parking.
B
The
reasoning
is,
is
because
of
the
lines
to
get
in
and
out
of
starbucks
backing
up
down
the
street
down
this
direction
with
those
being
90
degrees,
those
become
very
hard
to
back
in
and
out
of,
and
so
we've
gone
with,
with,
with
parallel
parking
to
accommodate
vehicles
to
be
able
to
pull
in
and
peel
out,
pull
out
a
little
easier
without
having
to
be
trying
to
back
up
into
the
cars
that
are
waiting
in
the
queue.
B
D
B
B
B
Keep
in
mind
that
one
that
you
pointed
out
down
here
is
right
in
front
of
the
the
unf
you
know
little
statue
park
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
So
we
tried
to
accommodate
a
little
more
space
in
that
area,
plus
that's
your
pedestrian
walkway
path
in
and
out
of
the
park.
G
I
know
you
said
you
discovered
certain
areas
didn't
have
parking
for
the
residents.
So
what
have
you?
I
was
surprised?
I
decided
to
go
on
a
trash
day
and
just
drive
the
area
to
see
trash
cans,
and
I
was
surprised
about
how
many
trash
cans
are
on
six.
So
do
we
know
like?
Are
they
all
like
apartment
people,
because
they
don't
like
throwing
parking?
Is
that
one
of
the
reasons
why
there's
so
much
parking
added
here?
Because
of
that?
G
B
B
Not
sure
I
can
answer
that,
like
the
question,
because
I'm
not
sure
if
I
do
know
the
answer
I
know
like
I
said
there's
some
of
these
that
are
already
approved
alleyways.
All
of
them
will
be
approved
when
we're
finished,
but
there's
a
lot
of
them
that
have
requested
like
I
said
they
request
that
hey,
we
need
access
to
be
able
to
park,
you'll
see
that
they
utilize
their
driveway
area
for
parking.
But
then,
when
you
look,
they
got
two
or
three
cars
parked
in
the
back
side
too.
So
we've
got
to
try
to.
B
We
try
to
accommodate
both
sides
of
it
to
be
able
to
get
it
and
then
still
try
to
accommodate
the
the
best
number
apartment
kind
of
like
when
you
look
out
here.
We
don't
generally
like
to
have
garbage
enclosures
out
on
the
right
ways,
but
the
places
where
they're
allotted
on
these
prints
they've
been
that
way
for
a
lot
of
years.
B
So
it
becomes
really
hard
to
come
back
and
say
sorry,
we're
going
to
take
this
we're
going
to
take
ours
down
and
now
you've
got
to
build
it
on
your
own
property
and
the
driveway
to
be
able
to
get
into
it.
So
we
try
to
accommodate
those
as
best
we
can
based
on
them.
A
lot
of
those
are
laid
out.
Some
of
them
are
laid
out
differently
than
they're
picked
out
and
they're
currently
picked
out
and
laid
so
that
they
can
get
in
and
out
of
them
easier.
So
we
try
to
accommodate
all
of
those.
B
Now
some
of
those
will
be
keep
in
mind.
Some
of
those
will
be
accommodated
by
commercial
users,
especially
when
you
get
up
near
some
of
the
especially
the
third
street
side,
because
you'll
have
people
pull
in
to
use
it
to
go
into
the
restaurants
or
go
into
starbucks
or
do
whatever
and
then
pull
back
out
and
go
on
their
way,
but
they
are
still
public,
so
somebody
could
pull
in
their
part
to
go
to
the
beach.
If
that's
what
they'll
choose,
if
that's,
where
the
problems,
one
of
the
is
recommendations
we
as
quickly
as.
F
We
can
have
another
meeting
with
the
residents
in
this
area,
not
wait
for
90
drawings,
but
that
we
move
forward
with
the
plan
revised.
And
I
would
ask
that
when
you
present
the
plan
that
the
plan
shows
what
are
driveways
and
what
are
parking
areas,
because
I
think
I
can
tell.
But
then
sometimes
I
look
at
them-
and
I
wonder,
is
this
parking
or
is
this
a
driveway?
F
And
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
people
to
understand
how
much
of
this
is
really
driveways
and
not
really
parking
areas?
And
I
think
it
would
be
better
understood
by
the
residents
that
live
in
that
area,
because
that
was
located
just
making
a
little
darker
gray
for
the
driveways
versus
the
parking
area,
or
vice
versa.
But
my
comments
that
I
got
back
from
the
residents
when
I
was
at
that
meeting
was
you
know
they
would
like
to
have
another
opportunity
to
really
look
at
this
plan
and
I
think
they
deserve
it.
B
F
B
G
B
So
here's
what
I'll
say
to
that
public
works
doesn't
determine
where
and
where
not.
To
put
aside
stop
signs,
we
rely
on
the
police
department
to
do
their
piece
and
they
do
their
piece.
They
come
down
and
monitor.
They
pull
statistics
a
lot
of
times,
just
placing
a
stop
sign,
they'll,
go
back
and
look
at
trash
statistics
and
it
takes
a
certain
threshold,
so
many
accidents
within
so
long
of
a
period
and
so
much
traffic
for
them
to
say.
Okay,
we
need
to
put
a
stop
sign
there.
B
A
B
When
we
look
at
the
lighting
as
it's
related
to
this
project,
because
obviously
that's
a
piece
that
gets
constructed,
we
overlaid
the
current
lighting
plan
as
it
exists
to
this
area
and
the
parameters
I
gave
them
was
if
the
street
lights
on
one
side
of
the
street
and
the
new
plan
calls
it
to
be
on
the
other
side
of
the
street.
B
So
that's
kind
of
the
parameters
I
gave
them
on
the
lighting
scenario
as
it
relates
to
this
is,
you
know,
follow
the
lighting
plan,
but
look
at
where
that
light
footprint
is,
and
if
it's
literally
from
here
to
here
and
you've,
got
mostly
the
same
coverage.
While
don't
fix
it,
it's
not
broken
and
replace
the
fixture,
but
replace.
H
F
And
it
has
to
do
mainly
with
the
underground
utilities,
not
necessarily
with
the
paving
or
the
the
sidewalks
on
top
is
to
get
to
the
utilities
and
replace
those
and
increase
the
storm
sewer
sizes
that
are
necessary
to
get
those
in
there.
It
just
requires
all
of
the
right-of-way
to
be
touched
in
some
way
and
then
ultimately,
to
get
the
to
get
the
the
slopes
that
are
necessary
on
the
street
to
get
the
drainage.
That's
that's
needed.
You
can't
not
touch
any
of
these
areas
without
addressing
that
in
some
way.
B
Commercial,
no,
we
don't
have
any.
I
think
there
I
I
saw
a
matrix
and
I
don't
know
exactly
what
it
was,
because
there
was
a
lot
of
different
things,
but
it's
very
hard
to
say:
what's
what
you
know
you've
got
to
connect
with?
What's
the
definition
of
commercial
is
a
duplex
commercial?
No,
but
but
a
three
flex
is
or
is
it
four
plus
or
is
it
a
part
somewhere
where
someone
would
force
yeah?
So
at
what
point?
Do
you
decide
what
is
and
what
is
it?
B
Because
I
think
some
of
these
you
have
to
base
on
the
parameters
that
if
it
looks
like
a
house,
we
believe
it
to
be
a
house.
Sometimes
we
find
out
later
it's
not
really
a
house.
It's
a
duplex
or
it's
a
duplex
with
a
rear
apartment.
You'd,
be
surprised
how
much
of
that
comes
out
as
you're
talking
with
these
customers.
B
Is
you
find
out
that
everybody
has
a
little
different
situation
so,
but
we
don't
necessarily
have
that
account
because
we
we
just
tried
to
like
I
said
the
parameters
were
that
what
was
in
the
memo
was
to
try
to
accommodate
parking
as
much
as
they
could,
which
was.
There
was
a
significant
amount
more
gary
can
attest
to
that
from
the
map
I
have
over
there
to
the
map
we
have
here,
we
removed
quite
a
bit.
I
know
we
added
some
down
here
in
front
of
this
unf.
B
D
B
D
Of
this
looks
commercial,
you
know
the
the
businesses
get
a
benefit
to
more
parking,
put
right
there
and
I'm
sure
that's
a
win-win
situation.
D
D
So
the
reason
why
I
asked
the
count
of
commercial
versus
red
dead,
if
we're
only
at
35
which
to
me,
doesn't
sound
like
a
massive
edition
of
parking,
but
if
there's
25
in
front
of
commercial
property
there's
only
10
in
residential,
I
would
say
just
drop
the
residential
ones,
and
it's
not
that
big
of
a
deal
because
that's
gonna.
Unless,
unless
the
resident
wants
it,
and
then
I
can
tell
you
living
close
to
close
proximity
to
the
ocean,
a
lot
of
times
dennis
said
you're
gonna
come.
A
Home
and
pull
up
if
you're,
gonna,
pull
out
with
parkinson's,
come
back
half
an
hour
later,
some
parks
and
spaces
and
a
lot
of
times.
You
feel
like
it's
your
parking
space,
but
it's
not
the
problem,
it's
city
right
away,
I
mean
so
I
don't
really
see
a
whole
lot
of
people
complaining
about
parking
spaces
in
front
of
theirs.
I
know
I
never
did.
They
was
always
grateful.
D
B
Sometimes
these
properties
change.
A
good
example.
Is
this
one:
over
by
the
unf
statue,
property,
that's
been
a
bed
and
breakfast
that's
been
all
kinds
of
things:
there's
been
a
restaurant,
it's
been
all
kinds
of
things
and
again
you
know:
we've
accommodated
for
public
parking.
There
right
only
parking.
There
is
in
the
back,
but
I
think
right
now,
it's!
I
don't
even
think
it's
back
to
apartment,
it's
a
back
to
apartment,
so
it's
not
even
a
bed
and
breakfast
and
it's
not
even
a
restaurant,
it
might
be.
B
The
restaurant
haven't
had
that
part
they
had.
They
had
the
opportunity
to
have
that
parking.
They
also
improved
a
lot
of
fences
and
trees
and
other
things
else
to
make
it
more
of
the
cottage
feel
so
again
yeah.
It's
like
I
said
we
had
to
balance
and
again,
keep
in
mind
we've
bounced
back
to
that
original
original
guidelines.
B
Of
that
I
set
forth
into
memo
which
kind
of
talked
about
these
are
the
bullets
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
accomplish
as
part
of
this
project
from
from
from
projects
one
through
six,
and
so
this
is
project
three
and
four
or
four
and
five.
So
the
first
two
have
already
been
done
following
the
same
parameters
as
to
get
as
much
parking
as
we
can.
B
G
G
B
G
G
D
D
Our
mission
of
driving
economic
progress
downtown
the
more
conveniently
naked
to
park.
D
Know
that's
what
the
end
zones
are
for.
That's
how
you
spread
out
the
traffic
along
the
beach,
but
just
I
don't
know
the
economic
impact
of
putting
six
parking
spots
in
front
of
the
house.
I
can
tell.
B
You
know
a
lot
of
the
a
lot
of
the
approaches
being
larger
or
changed
depending
on
what
they've
got
a
lot
of
these
places
too,
to
keep
in
mind.
So
the
minute
you
say
well,
if
it's
we
don't
want
any
public
parking,
then
what
do
we
do
for
that
apartment?
Building
down
there?
It's
not
my
job
to
use
city
dollars
to
provide
them
parking.
So
I
take
away
parking
spaces
because
it's
in
front
of
this
house,
then
I
really
need
to
address
taking
parking
spaces
away
from
the
in
front
of
that
apartment
building.
B
It's
not
my
problem
to
find
you
parking,
it
shouldn't
be
city
dollars,
but
if
I
take
their
parking
away
that
guy's
gonna
come
at
you
with
you've
just
crippled
my
business.
I
have
apartments
and
I
don't
have
any
place
to
park.
Anybody
and
what
they're
gonna
do
is
move
to
anywhere
else.
They
can
find
parking
to
be
able
to
go
and
get
away
with.
So
we
tried
to
juggle
all
of
that
stuff,
because
some
of
those
were
decisions
made
long
before
any
of
us
at
this
table
were
involved
in
this
there'll.
B
B
We
try
not
to
go
and
cause
problems,
you
know
and
actually
do
that,
but
the
minute
they
put
in
violators
will
be
towed.
That
becomes
an
illegal
sign
and
we
take
it
or
we
either
take
it
or
we
ask
them
to
move
it
because
they
cannot
tow
somebody
off
a
public
record.
You've
got
a
lot
of
that
up
on
second
street
north,
as
you.
F
Go
above
fourth
avenue
north
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
apartments
there
on
second
street
that
have,
you
know
tow
way
signs.
You
can't
park
it's
private
parking
and
stuff,
but
it
definitely
looks
like
it's
still
right
away.
B
F
B
Address
those,
but
a
lot
of
those
just
like
our
inspections
department
is
complaint
driven,
so
we
don't
just
drive
around
looking
for
him.
It
usually
takes
something
to
bring
us
into
the
area,
and
then
we
find
out
that
hey.
We
need
to
address
it
here.
You
know,
there's
a
few.
I
know
around
that
I've
seen
around
myself
and
it's
just
like.
B
E
B
B
B
Said
it's
semantics
going
from
60
to
90
at
this
point,
even
though
we're
kind
of
saying
these
were
those
were
60,
these
are
somewhere
between
60
and
90..
Having
a
meeting
tomorrow,
which
we
have
to
have
enough
time,
it
takes
a
couple
weeks
to
get
a
public
notice
out
and
do
what
we
need
to
do
I'll
work
with
the
engineering
firm
to
find
out
when
we
expected
90
to
be
officially
90.
He
may
call
this
officially
90.
B
If
we've
got
all
of
our
posted
pre-comments
already
adjusted,
they
may
call
this
90
and
say
here's
our
latest
and
greatest
and
then
we'll
push
ahead
with
the
next
public
meeting,
and
then
we
still
have
the
ability
to
be
able
to
make
adjustments
between
the
90
and
100,
and
there
still
can
be
the
opportunity
for
host
bid
adjustments.
We
just
we
really
want
to
have
it
as
solid
as
we
can
when
we
put
it
out
to
bid
and
not
get
into
the
now.
I
want
to
start
changing
everything,
because
that
just
slows
everything
down.
B
We
had
quite
a
bit
of
that
on
the
last
phase,
especially
in
front
of
casa
verano.
There
was
quite
a
bit
of
stuff
that
were
changes
that
were
made
in
the
last
minutes
and
time
frames,
so
we
you
know,
we
tried
to
accommodate
everybody
up
to
this
point
to
get
them,
but
at
some
point
we
have
to
stop
and
we
have
to
move
ahead.
Otherwise,
we'll
never
get
this
construction
started.
F
D
B
B
So
we
had
to
take
a
little
bit
of
that
into
play
because
those
parking
spaces
are
going
to
fill
up
with
the
residents
they
just
are
and
they're
going
to
need
additional
ones.
So
that's
just
simply
because
they've
got
15
units
if
I
give
them
eight
parking
spaces.
Where
are
the
other
eight
gonna
park?
B
So
we
tried
to
accommodate
a
little
bit
of
that
in
the
area
as
best
we
could
and
it's
not
going
to
be
convenient
for
everybody,
and
you
have
a
little
old
lady
that
lives
there
and
goes
to
publix
when
she
comes
back
she's
liable
not
to
have
a
parking
space
when
she
gets
back.
That's
just
it's
not
my
fault,
they
don't
have
parking,
but
it
is
what
it
is
trying
to
accommodate
it.
B
So
some
of
those
might
be
simply
in
demand
to
that
to
be
able
to
say
look
because
they
are
squeezing
nine
or
ten
cars
or
eleven.
Twelve
cars
in
that
area
right
now,
and
I
can't
accommodate
that
when
I
do
they
improve
public
parking
because
they
gotta
be
certain
good.
So
I
have
to
put
them
back
and
they'll
have
to
do
the
best
they
can
with
juggling
partners.
They
always
have
an
answer.
They
could
bulldoze
their
cool
and
make
a
parking.
A
D
B
This
is
what's
going
on
we're
gonna
try
to
eliminate
the
opportunity
like
we
had
last
time
where
we
had
four
sets
of
maps
and
four
different
tables,
and
we
had
some
people
that
were
they
talked
to
me
for
an
hour
and
then
they
went
over
and
talked
to
kale
for
an
hour,
and
then
they
went
to
talk
to
other
engineers
for
an
hour,
and
then
they
would
talk
to
the
other
engineer
for
an
hour
to
try
to
solidify
their
issue.
When
it
was
addressed
within
the
first
five
minutes.
B
We
already
knew
it
was
going
to
be
something
we
would
fix
so
that
we
took
a
lot
of
time
to
do
that.
So
this
time
we're
going
to
try
to
do
something
a
little
bit
different
to
where
we
could
try
to
accommodate
that
comment
period
without
and
we're
going
to
have
some
police
officers
present
the
next
one
too,
because
we
needed
that
the
last
time
we
made
a
mistake
so
that,
if
somebody
commandeers
all
of
our
time,
we
had
to
shut
a
couple
people
down
and
said:
look
you've
had
45
minutes.
B
You've
got
to
give
other
people
an
opportunity
to
talk.
That's
why
we're
here
so
we'll
continue
to
do
that
I'll,
make
sure
you're
all
posted
on
when
that
public
meeting
is
and
then,
like,
I
said,
the
website
itself
is
updated
with
these.
So
it's
ready
to
go.
You
can
forward
any
comments.
You
get
order
them
to
that
site
to
be
able
to
look
and
see.
That's
the
latest
and
greatest
and
then
click
that
comment.
Button
it'll
come
right
back.
It
comes
to
me
and
allen
and
kale
as
soon
as
you
hit
submit.
B
E
Yes,
so
we've
got
laura
smith
here
with
us.
She
is
from
our
consultant
at
gai
and
she
has
worked
with
us
extensively
on
the
important
analysis
that
you
were
seeing
in
your
packet.
You
guys
have
a
full
document
what
I
handed
out
right
at
the
start
of
this
meeting.
That
was
just
where
you
have
the
powerpoint,
but
then
the
text
that
I
have
now
pages,
I
think
at
the
bottom.
It
says
like
two
through
seven
or
something.
E
That
is
something
we
ask
them
to
come
back
and
add
to
the
market
analysis,
and
so
that's
going
to
be
the
first
couple
of
pages
and
what
that
is.
Is
it's
just
taking
all
the
data
inside
the
stick
analysis
and
it
summarizes
it
into
a
few
quick
pages
so
down
the
line
when
we're
using
this
to
obviously
solicit
bids.
E
E
C
C
C
Well,
it's
pretty
much,
it's
very
consistent
with
what
you've
got
there
in
your
packet,
as
I
was
just
describing.
What
we
did
expand
upon
in
the
version
of
the
report
that
you
originally
got
was
for
us
to
make
that
first
section,
which
is
called
part
one
project,
introduction
to
expand
that
out
a
little
bit
more
consistent
with
like
an
executive
summary,
so
that
then
you
can
use
those
first
few
pages
as
a
standalone
executive,
summary
of
the
larger
document,
and
we
tried.
C
H
C
So
we
were
hired
by
the
city
to
do
this
market
analysis
and
the
purpose
of
the
analysis,
ultimately
for
you
all
in
the
city's
use
in
engaging
private
real
estate
developers
on
a
mixed
use
project
in
the
future,
whether
that
be
in
a
public
private
partnership
condition
or
some
other
redevelopment
agreement
between
parties.
C
This
essentially
is
laying
out
for
you
the
steps
that
we
went
through
in
conducting
this
analysis.
One
of
the
important
things
I
think
that
you
want
to
take
from
this
is
that,
in
addition
to
looking
at
this
market
and
understanding
the
analysis
of
how
this
market
is
performing,
we
did
do
a
competitive
market
assessment
as
well,
which
kind
of
lines
up
jacksonville
beach
with
other
jurisdictions
of
similar
size,
intensity
and
population
densities.
C
C
So
when
we
look
at
the
key
findings,
as
you
all
may
know,
this
site's
about
1.7
acres,
it
already
has
about
200
paid
parking
spaces
on
it.
C
C
So
there's
my
fonts
getting
all
this
stuff.
You
guys
have
the
front
version.
So
basically,
the
situation
is
that
the
site
is
currently
designated
commercial
on
your
future
land
use.
It's
got
cbd
zoning.
What
this
does
is
basically
afford
the
property
development
rates
between
0.5,
far
and
3,
far
depending
on
how
the
site
is
developed,
whether
it
be
developed
independently
or
in
collaboration
with
the
cra,
would
increase
the
achievable
floor
area
ratio
on
that
site.
C
C
Private,
so
if
it
is
developed
independently
of
the
cra,
so
a
developer
just
came
in
and
apply
your
code
stipulates
this.
It's
not
something
that
we
apply.
It
simply
states
that
the
maximum
blurry
ratio,
if
it's
a
development
that
is
not
in
concert
with
a
an
entity
under
chapter
163,
which
would
be
like
your
cra,
which
is
defined
by
floor
statute.
C
H
C
C
C
Also
to
35
feet,
so
the
reality
is
getting
to
an
far
of
three
on
this
site.
It's
highly
unlikely
simply
because
of
the
35
foot
height
limitation.
So
you
know,
based
on
this
1.7
acre
site
maximum
develop
in
that
0.5
to
3
far
standard
would
get
you
between
as
it
shows
up
there.
What
is
it
27.5
and
225
000
square
feet
is
about.
D
The
other
very
basic
question
I
had
was:
the
city
is
looking
at
the
land
development
code
and
zoning
court,
or
whatever
does
this
reflect
possible
changes
that
the
city
is
exploring,
or
is
this
just
going
with
what
we
have
now
this.
D
C
C
On
the
site
is
going
to
be
up
to
the
city,
because
we're
assuming
this
property
will
be
re-honestly
from
cbd
to
your
your
standard
overlay
for
this
area
and
then
that'll
afford
you
the
ability
to
create
specific
standards
that
are
conducive
to
the
development
of
the
site,
based
on
how
the
area
functions
and
being
consistent
and
comparable
to
the
character
and
achieving
what
you're.
Ultimately
looking
for
so
you
know,
there's
some
driveway
requirements
for
some
in
and
out
elements
their
sidewalk
requirements.
C
There's
a
pedestrian
function
requirements
you
may
choose
to
weigh
some
of
those
based
on
getting
the
maximum
development
that
you
want
there.
So
those
are
things
that
you'll
have
to
deal
with
going
down
the
road
with
the
developers,
as
you
start
negotiating
with
them.
The
biggest
thing
that
holds
back
what
this
site
can
do
is
that
35
foot
height
limit,
because
while
we
say
that
prohibits
development
above
three
stories,
three
stories,
it's
still
going
to
be
a
tight
fit
in
35
feet,
especially
if
it's
going
to
include
structured
parking.
C
So
there's
going
to
have
to
be
probably
second
floor,
parking
developed
in
a
garage
situation
where
some
of
the
parking
that
you're
going
to
lose
due
to
the
structure
and
the
drive
aisles
and
everything
that's
going
to
have
to
happen
on
that
site
to
make
it
function.
You're
going
to
lose
some
of
that
ground
floor
parking.
It's
it
wouldn't
just
be
like
you're
building
up
on
stilts
above
it,
because
you
still
need
the
ramps
going
up
and
down.
C
C
So
basically,
when
we
started
looking
at
this
broader
area,
we
defined
your
primary
market
as
the
area
of
juvenile
county.
That's
referred
to
most
commonly
as
the
beaches.
It
is
actually
a
defined
market
area
and
it
just
basically
runs
the
distance,
as
you
see
up
on
the
screen
and
is
largely
constrained
by
the
waterways
and
then
at
the
extreme
south
end.
That's
the
county
line.
C
C
So
when
we
looked
at
your
market
opportunity,
ultimately,
what
we
saw
is
retail
office.
Industrial,
multi-family
and
hotel
are
all
performing
very,
very
well
in
this
area.
They're
experiencing
good
growth
in
terms
of
population,
and
when
you
look
at
you
know,
for
example,
the
primary
market
is
kind
of
interesting
that
the
the
biggest
increase
in
space
was
actually
in
industrial
use,
while
in
the
poor
market
the
biggest
increase
in
space
has
been
in
hotel,
motel
rooms.
C
C
So
basically,
if
we
look
at
total
population
and
total
employment
as
drivers
of
demand
for
space,
then
we
can
literally
take
those
projected
population
numbers
and
projected
employment
figures,
assign
a
retail
office,
commercial
type
square
footage
standard
to
that
and
then
come
up
with
what
the
actual
demand
for
space
is
going
forward,
based
on,
what's
supportable
otherwise
and
what's
currently
being
supported
by
the
population
existence.
Now.
C
So
with
that
said,
you've
got
good
strong
population
and
employment
growth
expected
within
the
primary
market
all
the
way
through
for
the
next
10
years.
So
that's
also
speaking
to
some
of
the
other
things
that
we
looked
at,
which
would
be
your
retail
leakage
standards
where
your
actual
retail
sales
activity
and
volume
and
things
like
that
of
actual
dollars
expended.
C
C
So
that's
why
you're,
seeing
it
being
flat
and
in
employment,
you
see
that
little
bit
of
a
dip
before
a
leveling
off
and
then
the
moderate
scenario
is
what
we
like
to
think
of
as
the
most
likely
scenario
and
the
high
would
be
in
a
period
of
extreme
growth.
So
at
any
given
year,
you
could
really
be
anywhere
within
that
sort
of
range
between
the
high
and
below,
which
is
why
we
feel
that
the
moderate
is
the
most
reliable
estimate
in
terms
of
projection.
C
C
So
what
we
take
away
from
this
is
that
you
know
the
primary
market,
as
you
see
up,
there
is
experiencing
retail
leakage
of
about
168
million
per
year
in
retail
sales.
That
means
that
of
the
amount
of
spending
that's
happening
in
this,
buy
this
populous
here,
168
million
of
it's
going
outside
of
the
primary
market
to
be
spent.
That's
largely
going
to
be
picked
up
in
areas
that
you
are
not
going
to
accommodate
either
way
within
the
core
market
or
within
the
secondary
market.
They
may
be
accommodated
in
the
primary
market
going.
C
You
know,
like
fuel
stations,
car
dealerships
stuff,
like
that,
it's
not
uncommon
to
lose
those
out
of
those
smaller
areas
into
a
much
larger
metro
area,
but,
generally
speaking,
there's
definitely
the
opportunity
there.
As
you
see,
there's
a
good
bit
of
leakage
in
the
primary
market
so
that
168
million
out
of
the
primary
market
could
be
accommodated
in
the
various
parts
within
that
market,
which
include
the
city
and
then
ultimately
the
cra.
C
So
we
like
to
think
about
you
know
what
they
might
capture
of
the
growth
and
demand
for
space
in
the
larger
market
area.
So
if
we
know
that
the
larger
market
is
losing
out
on
some
of
those
retail
dollars
whenever
those
spaces
and
those
square
footages
get
added
back
in
how
much
of
them
could
feasibly
be
captured
within
the
cra
versus
the
city
as
a
whole
or
could
just
be
accommodated
anywhere
within
the
primary
market.
C
So
that's
kind
of
what
you
see
here.
This
is
the
demand
analysis.
It
basically
tells
you
that
the
primary
market
is
projected
essentially
to
continue
seeing
growth
in
commercial
square
footage
and
that,
through
that
time
period,
you've
got
a
five-year,
low,
moderate
and
high
scenario
and
a
10
year
low,
moderate
in
high
scenario.
C
So
this
talks
about
the
capture
that
I
was
just
explaining.
So
the
secondary
market
and
core
could
capture
up
to
68
of
that
demand,
so
the
secondary
market
would
be
the
city
of
jacksonville
beach,
so
they
could
capture
up
to
68
of
that
future
growth
and
the
core
the
cra
could
capture
up
to
eight
percent.
C
C
10
years,
obviously,
you're
not
going
to
see
a
thousand
square
feet
happen
this
year
in
thousands
where
it'll
it'll
be
a
long
support.
So
you'll
see
that
happen
in
in
concentrations
of
development,
and
that
includes
the
pipeline
that
you've
already
got
under
construction
now.
So
that
would
be
above
that.
C
The
other
half
is
private,
so
we're
very
comfortable
dealing
with
you
know
what
developers
will
and
won't
provide
you
in
a
response
when
you
go
out
for
these
kinds
of
things
and
helping
you
craft
that
language
to
make
sure
you
collect
the
information
that
you
need
to
be
able
to
evaluate
those
proposals
and
then,
of
course,
we
can
assist
with
that
stuff
if
it's
needed
down
the
road.
But
it's
something
we're
more
than
happy
to
give
you
guys
a
proposal
on
it's.
F
But
the
only
comment
I
have
is
that
after
reading
through
this
everything
looked
very
positive-
I
mean
surprisingly
so
I
kind
of
figured
there
would
be
some
negatives
in
here.
But
everything
was
very
positive
and
it
looks
like
there's
a
very
unique
opportunity
here
for
us
to
if
we
can
move
quickly
enough
to
capture
some
of
this
and
take
advantage
of
it
in
the
potential
development.
C
I
would
agree
it
is
very
positive.
It
all
looks
very,
very
good.
Based
on
the
data
I
mean
retail
and
office
uses
in
this
market
area
are
just
they're
truly
performing.
Well,
you
know
you're
getting
more
and
more
visitation,
which
then
prompts
you
want
people
to
spend
their
dollars
here
right.
That's
the
goal
at
the
end
of
the
day
is
don't
just
come
to
the
beach
and
go
home.
Come
to
the
beach,
buy
an
ice
cream,
get
a
coffee
grab
lunch.
C
You
know
all
of
these
things
to
promote
your
local
economy,
as
well
as
for
the
broader
regional
economy
by
those
folks
staying
longer.
So
all
of
that
is
is
very
strong.
You've
already
got
the
folks
here,
they're
spending
their
money.
Here
you
see
that
from
the
fact
that
the
retail
dollars
are
leaking
out
of
market
areas,
so
the
dollars
are
being
spent.
Let's,
let's
get
the
dollars
to
happen
here,
and
so
the
biggest
issue
is
going
to
be
site
constraint
so
that
35
foot
height
limit
is
going
to
be
a
constraint.
G
About
parking
whole
thing
is
what
exactly
is
our
next
phase
and
I'm
happy
this
is
I
agree
when
I'm
drinking
it's
like?
Oh,
oh,
of
course
we
need
more
of
that.
We've
been
talking
about
it
right.
What
is
it
on
our
end?
It
means
obviously
we're
not
we're.
We
don't
own
the
property,
but
we're
going
to
be
proposing
something
way
down
the
line
to
the
city
council
to
do,
but
we
can
get
all
the
quotes
on
other
good
stuff
right
so
like
what
is
the
next
step
for
us.
I
My
recommendation
when
we
started
this
process
is
relates
to
this,
is
to
get
this
status
very,
very
good
and
quietly
start
circulating
within
the
development
community
to
the
two
major
development
groups
in
town
where
they
might
be
interested
because
you
don't
want
to
go
out
and
have
some
broad-based
fishing
expedition.
If
you
know
they're
not
going
to
catch
a
fish.
I
Are
people
that
are
interested
in
the
first
step
is
to
determine
that
interest
with
this
market
that
so
the
next
step
is
to
get
it
out
to
develop,
and
who
would
that
be
your
advantage
to
primarily
the
very
strong
element
here,
plus
our
own
development
leads
that
we
know
people
that
would
be
interested
in.
I
I
Think
it's
good.
I
think
it's
fine,
because
there's
a
lot
of
new,
really
exciting
developers
around,
besides
the
big
guys
before
whether
it's,
whether
it's
even
our
local
guys
like
high
needs
that
might
be
interested
in
looking
at
it.
So
there's
lots
of
folks
that
can
take
a
look
at
this
to
see
to
get
them
excited
about
the
project.
G
I
That
procurement
will
offer
out
to
the
development
community
and
they
will
have
to
respond,
and
then
they
will
be
reviewed
just
like
anything
else
in
the
procurement
policy
and
at
that
point
we
would
design
it.
So
you
could
select
one
two
or
three
to
invite
them
to
come
up
with
full-scale
proposals
and
what
the
development
would
be.
B
H
H
I
C
So
you
can
do
a
targeted
advertisement,
so
we
do
loi
for
developer
solicitation
work
for
some
of
our
clients
where
we
do
targeted
notifications.
So,
instead
of
saying
I
mean
it
still
gets
advertised
publicly
so
that
any
developer
has
access
to
it.
That
hey
look!
Here's
some
parameters
for
this
site.
Here's
this
analysis
that
we've
done
and
we
would
like
to
have
developers,
give
us
some
very
general
concepts
of
what
they
think
they
might
like
to
do
with
this
site.
C
If,
given
the
opportunity
to
partner
with
the
cra,
you
float
that
out
and
you
can
target
it
saying:
hey
we're
going
to
specifically
send
it
to
these
people
because
they're
most
similar
to
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
and
that
may
be
individual
business
owners.
We've
done
them
targeted
before
where
we
were
looking
for
a
tenant
into
a
commercial
space
that
was
owned
by
a
jurisdiction
comparatively
to
if
you're
looking
for
them
to
actually
develop.
C
And
then
you
go
forward
from
there
into
formal
proposals,
formal
negotiations,
and
then
you
may
even
give
them
a
stipend
to
do
a
little
bit
more
design
so
that
you
can
see
what
it
might
look
like.
You
know.
Those
are
the
kind
of
steps
you
can
continue
taking
on
the
site,
but
I
do
think
the
first
step
is
put.
C
And
if
you
plop
this
out
there
on
your
website,
that's
a
good
first
step
and
you
can
then
direct
developers
to
it.
You
can.
You
can
tell
them
in
passing
and
stuff
like
that.
Hey
you
know.
We
just
did
this
big
market
analysis
without
site.
We
think
we're
going
to
be
going
out
for
a
lot
of
for
a
notice
of
intent
soon
from
developers.
Let's
take
a
look
at
this
market
analysis.
Let
us
know
what
you
think
you
can.
F
C
F
H
F
Is
yeah,
but
part
of
that
plan
was
ultimately
to
do
some
preliminary
conceptual
designs
for
that
parking
area.
What
can
we
do?
We've
got
the
information
now,
wherever
we
could
put
in
there
now,
a
designer
can
take
that
information
and
rub
out
some
ideas
which
we
would
be
more
what
the
city
wants,
but
that
could
also
be
used
as
a
tool
to
work
with
the
developers
to
ultimately
get
to
a
win-win
situation.
I
F
I
I
C
D
I
F
C
And
I
will
add
that
if
you
do
end
up
in
a
situation
where
you
opt
for
you
know
the
land
to
be
essentially
a
gift
in
exchange
for
the
type
of
development
that
you're
looking
for
or
even
if
you
have
them
by
the
land,
either
way
the
parking
that
is
there
remaining
truly
open
to
the
public
when
it's
on
private
property
is
something
you
would
have
to
make
sure
that
whatever
developer
you
choose
is
very
very
comfortable
with
that
situation.
If
that
parking
is
going
to
remain
truly
public
and
not
customer-only
based
so.
D
F
It's
all
good
I've
seen
it
I've
seen
it
both
ways:
the
cases
it's
the
city
that
owns
the
and
wants
to
maintain
the
rights
to
the
property
and
in
some
other
cases
they
sell
the
property
because
they
want
to
get
it
developed
in
a
certain
way
and
in
order
to
get
it
to
happen,
they've
got
to
sell
the
property,
I'm
just
going
to
use
it
as
an
example.
The
other
lot
that's
over
here
on
2nd
street
and
what
is
that
4th
avenue
north
on
that
corner?
That
might
be
one.
F
I
G
I
C
Land
in
that
situation,
but
I
do
think
part
of
the
management
element
of
it,
that
public
parking
component
and
maintaining
that
as
public
and
keeping
it
to
the
standards
that
you
all
would
maintain
it
to.
If
you
owned
those
parking
spaces,
is
going
to
be
an
important
parameter
of
that
agreement
with
any
developer
that
takes
over
any
subsequent
owner
that
the
developer
made
it.
While
building
two
down
the
road.
I
F
In
the
negotiations,
the
developer
may
actually
come
back
and
tell
us
that
what
we
have
to
do
is
we
have
to
agree
that
we
will
never
develop
lake
and
closet
and
anything
other
than
a
plaza.
That
has
to
say
that
so
that
they
can,
you
know,
maintain
the
viability
of
their
development.
Whatever
they
end
up
doing,
it
becomes
a
back
discussion.
Ultimately,
there's
we
have
to
have
a
trust
and
faith
in
somebody.
Ultimately,
that
wants
to
work
with
us.
C
C
F
You
know
I
I'd
like
to
see
us
move
along,
I
like
to
get
the
timetable
put
together
so
that
we
know
what
the
next
steps
need
to
be
and
that
we
can
get
on
that.
We'll
have
that
ready
for
you
and
then
you
know
we
as
let's
react
as
quickly
as
we
can
and
starting
to
move
this
process
along
because
it's
going
to
be
likely
it's
not
a
short
time.
C
Evaluation
and
development
proposals
that
cities
go
out
for
forbid
on
a
project
on
a
site.
We
do
a
lot
of
evaluation
of
stuff
like
that
evaluating
performance,
to
see
if
they're
actually
realistic,
and
you
will
you'll
find
it
it'll
it'll-
be
that
there
will
be
one
in
the
stack
that
you're
like
this
is
what
we
want
this
is
it,
and
there
will
be
some
that
are
way
off
the
market.
You
know,
I
don't
know
what
they
were
thinking.
C
F
There
are
two
things
that
we
need
to
really
quickly
take
a
look
at
number.
One
is
what
do
we
need,
or
what
do
we
want
out
of
this
deal?
What
is
it
that
the
city
is
looking
for,
and
I
think
we
need
to
kind
of
put
some
kind
of
parameters
out
there,
because
I
don't
need
to
be
part
of
whatever
proposal
that
goes
out
there
and
then
the
the
other
thing
that
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
is:
what
is
the
technical
agreement?
F
I
personally
haven't
seen
anything,
but
I
think
we
need
to
get
something
so
that
we
know
what
that
is,
because
that
could
be
an
attachment
too,
but
ultimately
is
sent
out,
because
that
developer
will
have
to
will
have
to
come
to
basic
understanding.
E
That
document
is
about
37
pages.
I
know
because
I
drafted
the
whole
thing
it's
currently
being
reviewed
internally.
It
will
then
go
to
jim
and
taylor
and
they're
going
to
look
at
it
and
then
because
it's
not
just
going
to
be
a
cra
specific
document,
ultimately
it'll
go
to
you
guys
and
council
and
the
council
will
be
the
ones
to
improve
and
adopt
this
p3
internal
policy
rather
than
asking
finance
or
legal
to
physically
write
it.
I
kind
of
just
talked
with
heather
and
we
drafted
it
internally.
E
We've
looked
at
probably
50
from
across
the
state.
I
mean,
if
you
do
far
enough,
you
can
find
them
and
so
yeah
that
that's
in
review
right
now,
right.
I
There
I
might
talk
about
q3
just
a
minute.
There
are
we're
looking
at
a
p3
here,
as
it
relates
to
disposition
of
poverty,
for
we
developed
we're
looking
at
a
p3
as
a
public
private
partnership
related
to
the
disposition
of
property
for
a
redevelopment
or
involved
project.
It's
a
little
bit
different,
because
state
statutes
got
a
p3
policy
unit
as
well,
but
that
one
is
really
designed
if
you
want
to
build
a
city
hall
and
have
a
private
guy
to
be
in
charge
of
it
totally
that
you
own
a
road
or
another
municipal
facility.
C
C
E
H
But
we'll
work
on
giving
you
guys
a
schedule
of
what
we
think
a
tentative
schedule
for
getting
that
policy
adopted
and
then
putting
out
some
kind
of
request
for
proposals
and
the
late.
The
plaza
we
kind
of
got
intended
to
schedule
for
that
as
well.
So
try
to
put
all
those
pieces
of
the
puzzle
together.
So
we
can
have
a
decent
outlook
for
moving
forward
with
this
particular
project
and
does.
E
Submit
anything
out
there.
Well,
that's
an
interesting
point
that
came
up
again
internally
with
jim
bringing
up
the
state
statute
component.
E
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
E
I
think
we
need
to
go.
F
Negotiations
with
the
public
works
see
if
they're
willing
to
lease
that
space
at
the
upper
end
of
the
water
tower
the
playground
for
additional
capacities
in
case
you
need
it
here,
there's
that
I
don't
know
if
you've
seen
the
water
tower.
F
Tripling
yes
and
then
that's
why
you
know
I
was
making
a
comment
that
we've
got
to
move
quickly
because
I
just
see
costs
continuing
to
climb,
which
is
everything
that
I
see
in
in
my
industry
and
it's
it's
going
to
be
a
challenge
to
with
working
with
developers
with
them,
seeing
these
costs
that
they're
having
to
deal
with
right
now
for
construction
and
labor
and
then
getting
the
materials
as
well
as
the
labor
available
to
do
the
work.