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B
A
D
C
All
in
favor,
please
indicate
by
saying
aye
all
right.
Any
of
those.
Thank
you
everyone,
mr
popoli,
do
we
have
any
correspondence.
E
C
C
Any
person
who
is
not
an
applicant
or
agent
that
wishes
to
speak
will
need
to
fill
out
a
speaker's
card
located
at
the
side
table,
live
door
and
turn
them
into
the
footer.
So
please
do
that.
If
you're
interested
in
cd
each
member
of
the
public
will
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak
on
each
item,
please
refrain
from
speaking
out
from
the
audience
and
applause
or
chair.
You
will
not
be
allowed
and
please
silence
yourself
so.
E
The
property
owner
is
smv
management
llc.
The
property
is
located
at
321
north
first
avenue.
The
request
is
for
conditional
use
approval
for
our
proposed
two
unit,
multi-family
dwelling
located
in
the
commercial
general
c2
zoning
district,
pursuing
the
section
34
343
d11
of
the
jacksonville
beach
line
of
album
code.
The
subject
property
is
located
on
the
south
side
of
first
avenue
just
west
of
a1a
and
contains
a
vacant
non-conforming
single-family
drone
constructed
in
1931.
E
the
building
sustained
fire
damage.
In
the
summer
of
2020
and
in
june
of
2020,
the
electrical
leader
was
removed
from
the
building
rendering
structure
abandoned
pursuit
in
section
34
622
of
the
line
development
code.
If
an
unconforming
use
is
discontinued
or
abandoned
for
a
period
of
more
than
six
months,
and
such
use
may
not
be
re-established
or
resumed
and
any
subsequent
use
of
informed
for
provisions
of
the
ldc
the
use
of
single-family
home
was
not
permitted
as
a
conditional
use
in
c2
zoning
or
permitted
use.
E
The
previous
user
single
family
was
legal
non-conforming
as
mentioned,
but
it
ceased.
The
owner
was
advised
that
the
existing
unconforming
use
could
not
be
reestablished
and
in
order
to
have
the
residential
use
on
property,
commission
use
program
would
be
required
and
the
user
would
have
to
be
multi-family
based
on
what
size
and
the
density
requirements
of
the
odc.
E
We
limit
the
project
to
just
two
units,
given
the
overall
width
of
a
lot
of
25
feet,
the
proposed
design
and
it
was
designed
variants
would
need
to
be
approved
as
well
to
address
potential
deficiencies
and
using
the
code
for
dimensional
standards.
E
I
do
have
one
correction
that
we'll
get
to
in
this
section
here:
the
adjacent
uses
are
commercial
to
the
east,
commercial
and
multi-family
residential
to
the
north,
a
there's
not
a
single
family,
immediately
attached
to
the
to
the
west
and
then
a
financial
institution
to
the
south.
So
the
immediate
adjacent
property
in
the
west
is
a
residential
structure,
but
it
was
converted
to
commercial
a
number
of
years
ago.
It
is
not
conforming
its
layout,
it
doesn't
need
current
parking
or
setback
requirements,
but
it's
legal
non-conformity,
but
it
is
not
single-family.
E
That
was
a
mistake
in
the
report.
The
proposed
use
of
the
two-minute
multi-family
drilling
is
not
inconsistent
with
the
surrounding
uses
and
should
not
negatively
impact
adjacent
uses.
Again.
The
portion
of
a
single
family
adjacent
is
not
correct.
Based
on
the
application
and
analysis
stated
in
the
report,
the
planning
and
development
department
is
recommending.
Approval
and
again
follow-up
would
be
a
variance
if
they
got
through
this
process.
So
this
is
the
first
stop
on
training,
so
speak.
C
As
a
reminder,
each
member
of
the
public
will
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak
when
we
open
the
public
hearing.
First,
I'm
going
to
begin
by
saying:
does
any
board
member
have
an
ex-partner
disclose,
and
I
do
have
to
say
that
I
do.
I
received
a
email
from
heath
aldridge
at
10.
C
45
a.m
on
wednesday
may
18th,
so
included
in
our
materials
is
an
another
email,
but
this
is
subsequent
to
that
and
this
kind
of
discloses
that
the
most
immediate
use
to
the
west
is
is
not
a
single-family
home,
but
it's
a
commercial
business.
So
mr
oakley
already
made
that
point,
but
I
didn't
want
to
disclose
that.
I
didn't
have
that
xrt
communication,
any
other
x-party
difficult
disclosures
from
mission
members.
Okay,
thank
you
with
the
acting.
Please
come
forward
to
be
sworn
in
and
give
a
presentation.
F
Okay,
all
right,
it's
been
a
long
time
since
I've
been
public
hearing
a
speaker
form,
so
this
would
be
kind
of
trial.
One
for
me
we'll
see
how
that
goes
before
we
ever
get
to
the
next
one.
So
we
are
proposing
conditional
use
on
the
existing
structures.
Chris
mentioned
that
this
existing
residential
building,
which
just
has
a
fire
damage-
and
there
is
nothing
we
can
do
with
it.
F
The
lot
is
25
feet
wide,
so
the
next
best
use,
which
is
going
to
be
leaked
intensive.
That
area
is
going
to
be
two
unit,
multi-family
structure,
that's
what
we
are
proposing.
We
have
submitted
a
site
plan
along
with
our
application.
I
will
not
show
you
information
as
a
copy
of
those.
F
Yes,
you
do
okay,
so
we
proposed
we're
proposing
three
units
to
two-story
building.
We
got
four
parking
spots,
which
usually
requires
for
the
current
board
that
each
unit
has
directly
parking.
So
we
have
four
parking
spots.
Most
of
the
neighbors
around
us
have
been
supported.
We
have
a
letter
from
the
daily
across
the
street
who
is
opposed
to
this.
F
What
we
are
trying
to
do,
I
have
talked
to
some
of
the
other
neighbors
they
would
like
to
have
this
building
on
and
we
go
to
something
nicer
reached
out
to
white
star
bank
and
their
manager
has
told
us
that
still
like
to
see
something
which
is
better
than
what
it
is
right
now
as
well.
A
A
C
Okay,
I
have
a
card
from
ryan
rooney
and
forgive
me
I'm
mispronouncing,
your
name,
sir,
who
is
in
support
of
the
agenda
item
but
does
not
wish
to
speak.
Is
that
correct.
G
G
C
I'm
just
taking
these
in
the
order
that
they
introduce
me
next.
I
have
justin
current
again.
Forgive
me
if
I
mispronounce
your
name.
That
was
good.
Thank
you
for
coming.
Thank
you.
H
I've
talked
with
both
miss
aldridge
and
I've
also
talked
to
mr
aquila,
but
that
was
a
while
ago
and
I
was
originally
trying
to
purchase
the
property
that
mr
mckeel
has
back
when
it
was
for
sale.
This
was
about
a
year
ago
a
year
and
a
half
something
like
that,
and
I
once
we
got.
I
was
actually
talking
to
mr
papil
about
purchasing
the
property.
We
got
to
the
point
where
I
made
an
offer
and
we
were
about
to
do
something.
H
Okay
christian,
so
I
talked
with
you
briefly
and
one
of
the
approaches
that
we
mentioned
again.
This
was
a
year
ago,
certainly
not
expecting
anybody
to
remember,
but
one
of
the
approaches
was
if
you
could
acquire
the
property
to
the
west,
which
is
miss
aldridge's
property
keep
electricity
which
those
are
two
commercial
non-conforming
abilities.
But
since
this
lot
is
20
feet,
25
feet,
it's
a
very
tight
space
in
between
lean
kids
class
and
these
buildings
to
the
west,
especially
if
those
buildings
to
the
west
get
demolished
and
something
else
gets
put
there.
H
So
I
think
the
solution
that
I'm
recommending,
but
I'm
not
not
trying
to
hold
up
anywhere,
I'm
kind
of
in
the
middle.
I
just
wanted
to
throw
this
out
there,
because
I
I'm
in
contact
with
both
parties
is
acquiring
all
three
of
these
properties
or
sorry
to
the
properties,
but
there's
three
lots
total,
so
those
properties
to
the
west
there's
two
lots.
H
So
the
idea
would
be
to
acquire
mr
verkiel's
property,
as
well
as
the
lots
to
the
west
and
create
a
structure
that
fits
the
use,
that's
in
agreeance
with
everybody.
So
it's
not
trying
to
squeeze
something
in
and
it's
not
trying
to
you
know
do
something
over
the
top.
So
I
think
miss
aldridge's
point
was
the
building
that's
being
promoted
proposed.
H
It
doesn't
show
leading
case
glass
on
the
other
property
and
if
you
really
look
at
that
space,
it's
a
really
tight
squeeze
to
put
anything
there,
especially
parking
spaces.
You
got
people
lined
up
behind
each
other,
so
I
talked
with
her
over
the
weekend,
so
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
two
cents
out
there
that
she's
open
to
the
idea
of
selling
her
property
and
if
mr
pecum
was
open
to
the
idea
so
that
it
doesn't
have
to
be
this
non-conforming
tight
squeeze
use
and
we
actually
develop
a
property
together
on
those
three
laws.
D
Hello
hi,
I'm
the
property
owner
of
228th
third
street
north
and
also
the
business
owner,
which
is
green
room
brewing,
and
we
would
love
to
see
something
happen
with
that
property,
no
matter
what
it
is,
because
there's
a
lot
of
homeless
activity
in
the
area
that
spills
over
to
where
we're
at
and
then
we
have
to.
D
We
have
to
deal
with
that,
basically
pretty
much
on
a
daily
basis,
so
we'd
love
to
see
something
happen
with
this
property
and
obviously
you
guys
already
know
it's
in
our
store
and
then
for
us
we
get
the
daily.
You
know
traffic
that
comes
through
there.
You
know
that's
a
nuisance,
so
I'm
supportive
of
seeing
something
happening
with
that
property.
C
C
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who's
not
filled
out
a
sneaker's
card?
I
think
I
see
perhaps
someone
that
may
be
doing
that.
So,
if
you
would
like
to
speak,
you
may
do
some
now
and
then
just
articulate
or
go
ahead
and
do
it.
I
We
got
it.
I
was
actually
here
at
the
last
meeting
and
we
have
a
business
at
610
3rd
street
north.
So
just
down
the
road
and
we've
been
working
with
jacksonville
beach
to
get
that
looking
nicer
again,
we're
wanting
to
increase
the
values
and
increase
the
appeal
of
jack's
beach,
and
so
I'm
definitely
in
support
of
it,
of
getting
rid
of
a
building
that
is
probably
has
homeless,
staying
there
and
does
not
really
provide
any
positive
value.
C
J
Good
evening,
my
name
is
I
own
the
property
331
first
avenue,
which
is
the
caffeinated
cats,
as
opposed
to
the
312
first
household
I'd
love
to
see
dr
bobby.
You
know
just
do
something
really
nice
with
it.
I'd
like
it
to
stay
commercial
zoning.
J
I
feel
like
this
whole
avenue
is
being
called
commercial,
so
I'd
love
to
see
it
as
a
commercial
property
being
developed
with
a
nice
business
that
you
know,
increases
all
the
and
all
the
flow
to
that
happening,
and
it's
so
close
to
the
third
street
and
all
the
all
the
other
businesses.
So
I'd
love
to
see
you
great
as
a
commercial
property.
C
H
Sorry,
so
one
of
the
solutions,
I'm
hearing
a
lot
is
everybody
saying
if
they
wanted
to
look
better
and
I
think
if
you
just
demolish
the
structure
that
would
take
care
of
the
homeless
population,
it
would
blend
in
with
the
area
because
there's
still
these
non-conforming
old
places
to
the
west.
So
that's
a
that's
also.
Another
solution,
short
term
is
just
demolish
the
structure
and
then
think
about
the
other
possible
solutions.
A
B
I
have
a
question
for
you,
so
I
just
want
to
know
why
last
time,
just
for
my
name,
we
rejected
it
and
because
I
know
you
guys
give
a
recommendation,
I
can't
remember
what
the
recommendation
wasn't
that
do
you
know
what
the
recommendation
was
last
time
and
why
did
you
guys
accept
this
stuff?
Okay,
so
last
time.
E
Actually,
we
weren't
giving
recommendations,
we
were
just
giving
information,
yes,
actually
something
heather
and
I
have
changed
since
I've
been
here.
The
concerns
I
recall
last
time
had
to
do
with
the
original
design,
didn't
account
for
four
parking
spaces.
They
were
so
concerned
about
parking
backing
up
into
the
street
or
using
the
right-of-way.
E
B
Is
if
the
next
stop
on
the
train
is
looking
at
the
setbacks
and
things
like
that?
He
said
right.
E
D
Good
question
for
the
applicant:
was
there
any
anything
you
wanted
to
address
that
you've
heard
from
the
public
or
not.
D
F
Like
to
take
a
quick
moment
and
address
the
comment
which
was
made
earlier
about
purchasing
somebody
else's
property,
my
understanding
is
this
is
a
forum
for
public
hearing
or
land
acquisition.
F
Instead,
where
you
apply
for
the
land,
where
you
try
to
get
a
land
out
of
somebody
else,
I
own
my
property.
I
only
have
a
right
to
my
property
how
it
can
build.
I
have
no
control
of
what
my
neighbor
property
gets
built
as
so
I
would
like
atlantic
commission
to
consider
the
previous
comments
which
were
made
about
acquisition
of
the
properties.
F
A
E
At
the
council
briefing
tonight,
some
of
you
haven't
been
hearing,
but
we
have
selected
a
contractor
or
a
consultant
for
the
land
development
code.
Comp
plan
update.
They
presented
a
scope
of
basically
meaning
subjects,
meaning
timeline,
and
we
took
that
to
council.
They
were
agreeable
with
the
overall
concept
so
now
we're
going
to
go
through
the
process
of
getting
the
funding
approved
final
negotiations
contracts.
Lighting,
that's
going
to
be
ready
to
move
forward
by
june,
maybe
the
end
of
june,
but
we
should
be
using
I'm
sorry.
E
Oh
that's,
really
important
is
the
company's
empire
and
there
will
be
some
targeted
meanings
specifically
with
this
board
and
the
board
of
adjustment.
So
they
want
to
gather
information
from
overpass
and
their
experiences
with
the
codes
and
then
once
they
get
through
all
those
hearings
and
their
analysis.
Looking
back
with
the
draft
and
they're
all
said
to
be
able
to
get
with
you
guys
and
reporter
justin
to
you
know,
vet
those
concepts
with
you
guys
because
you
deal
with
it.
E
Right,
it's
changed
a
couple
times.
It's
gotten
pushed
back,
but
it's
18
months,
probably
two
years,
but
the
start.
Date's
gonna
be
contingent
on
the
contracts
and
all
that,
so
we
can
get
started
in
june
yeah,
probably,
but
it
may
push
into
24..
B
E
Needed
a
little
bit
more
than
you
guys
when
I
started
so,
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
working
with
them
and
fleshing
out
their
staff
reports,
because
their
stuff,
more
often
than
not,
was
likely
to
be
challenged
in
courts.
You
wanted
to
make
that
process
a
little
more
airtight
we're
going
to
be
working
on
the
staff
reports,
for
you
guys
too,
adding
in
the
criteria
and
some
more
information
and
things
like
that.
It's
just
working
our
way
through.
B
D
D
E
Honestly,
I
don't
know:
we've
gotten
that
yet
because
we've
just
done
a
bunch
of
training
with
the
board
adjustment
to
kind
of
give
them
a
little
bit
more
to
work
with,
but
I
mean
it
happens.
It's
25
15
percent.
I
don't
know.