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A
Good
evening,
everyone
welcome
I'm
just
going
to
start
the
meeting
by
giving
you
a
little
bit
of
kind
of
how
it
works.
The
planning
commission
meetings
are
causing
judicial
in
nature.
All
decisions
with
the
commission
will
be
based
on
competitive,
competent,
substantial
evidence,
including
testimony
provided
in
this
meeting.
A
Any
person
who
is
not
an
applicant
or
agent
or
wishes
to
speak
will
need
to
fill
out
a
speaker's
card
located
on
the
side
table
by
the
door
and
and
turn
them
into
the
clerk.
Each
member
of
the
public
will
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak
on
each
item.
A
Please
don't
participate
in
applause
or
cheering
or
any
of
that
stuff.
You
know
we
try
to
keep
it
down
very
civil.
Please
silence
your
cell
phones.
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
call
this
meeting.
C
B
A
You
our
next
item
on
the
agenda,
is
consideration
of
minutes
from
july
25th
2022..
Do
we
have
any
discussion
or
do
we
have
a
motion.
A
Thank
you
motion
passes.
Do
you
have
any
correspondence,
mr
publicly.
D
D
Yes,
we
have
one
item
for
you
guys
tonight.
This
is
pc1922,
it
is
a
conditional
use
application.
The
property
owner
is
rh2
properties
llc
the
applicant,
and
I
apologize.
If
I
mispronounced
your
last
name,
is
idahoman.
D
The
location
is
323
10th
avenue
north.
The
request
is
for
conditional
use
approval
for
proposed
drinking
establishment
located
in
the
commercial
limited
c1
zoning
district
pursuit
with
section
34343
d3
of
the
jacksonville
beach
land
development
code.
The
subject
property
is
a
unit
inside
an
existing
commercial
center.
The
locat,
the
location
is
that
of
the
previous,
really
good
beer
stop
and
prior
to
that
occupied
by
poor
craft
beer.
D
The
proposed
use
is
that
of
a
retail
store
that
predominantly
sells
plants,
but
will
also
serve
beer
and
wine
to
patrons
of
the
store.
The
council
has
been
deployed
in
several
other
cities
in
north
florida,
including
including
something
similar
in
the
riverside
neighborhood
in
jacksonville
adjacent
uses
consist
of
tenants
of
the
commercial
center
to
the
east
and
west,
a
mix
of
residential
and
commercial
uses
behind
the
center
itself
to
the
north
and
commercial
restaurant,
commercial
and
restaurant
uses
across
10th
avenue
south
to
the
south
evening.
D
A
Will
give
you
three
minutes
to
speak
when
we
open
the
public
hearing?
Do
any
board
members
have
any
ex
parte
communication
to
disclose?
Thank
you
seeing
you.
If
you
have
to
please
come
forward
to
be
sworn
in
and
give
any
presentation.
A
A
G
First
of
all,
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
I'm
against
having
a
bar
opening
in
this
location
and
there's
no
one
more
qualified
than
myself
to
tell
you
the
actual
impact
on
the
neighborhood
that
made,
because
I've
lived
at
4284
I've
only
since
1976.,
and
I
can
tell
you
the
impact
of
what
the
shopping
center
has
been
over
the
years.
G
It
is
that
the
commercial
areas
can
exist
within
close
proximity
of
residential
areas
without
creating
an
adverse
effect
on
development
or,
in
this
particular
case
character
of
such
areas.
Well,
the
last
occupant
for
those
that
aren't
aware
that's
one
of
the
same
that
wasn't
two
bars
poor's
and
good
beer.
G
G
He
wasn't
the
only
only
person
we've
had
and,
as
I
said,
I
can
tell
you
the
history
and
I
won't
bore
you
with
it,
but
originally
mel
mushroom
was
gmark
tires
and
harry's
was
learners,
dress
shop,
so
they?
Basically,
you
can
see
that
the
other
establishments
have
contributed
to
the
pushing
of
the
parking
into
the
residential
neighborhood.
G
G
Salt
air
both
had
a
problem
with
parking.
They
were
using
a
residential
neighborhood
built
man
made
them
stop
because
that's
commercial
enterprise
and
residential
neighborhood
and
as
a
result,
they
have
they
had
their
ballet.
They
rented
the
lot
behind
dairy
queen
from
the
church
and
that's
where
they
had
their
valet
parking.
G
So
basically
everyone's
telling
you
that
you
have
absolutely
impossible
parking
in
that
area
and
when
this
establishment
opened
very
good
there,
we
had
an
addition.
It
was
absolutely
a
great
increase
in
problems
and
I
don't
have
to
go
into
details
of
what
alcohol
does
does
to
the
average
student
and
in
the
neighborhood.
So,
yes,
it
has
a
very
adverse
effect.
Is
the
neighborhood,
but
the
main
thing.
F
We're
going
to
be
a
different
business,
coffee
store
is
going
to
be
playing
so
that
cuts
back.
You
know
a
lot
of
the,
I
guess
you
said
occupancy
issues
with
parking
and
I'm
there
every
day
right
now,
there's
still
plenty
of
parking
in
the
parking
lot.
So
I
don't
foresee
any
issues.
F
Are
your
hours
going
to
be
so
during
the
week
I
think
we'll
close
around
8
009
and
then
on
the.
F
C
D
So
it's
a
shopping
center,
so
the
parking
standard
is
one
space
for
250
square
feet
currently
in
the
code.
Obviously
the
structure
was
built
a
number
of
years
ago.
I
don't
know
exactly
the
total
parking
count,
but
the
assumption
would
be
was
built
to
the
shopping
center
standard.
So,
as
tenants
come
and
go,
the
parking
is
calculated
in
the
center
itself,
not
each
tenant.
That
comes
in.
A
C
C
C
F
C
E
So
my
question
that
this
is
about
parking
in
residential
areas
is,
it
is
parking
lot
on
that
street?
Is
it
parked
there
or
not.
H
H
You
know
we
we
don't
police
that,
but
that
is
you
know
and
I'd
be
sure
to
say-
and
I
certainly
we've
been
down
this
road
a
few
times
with
with
mr
sorel,
when
it
was
really
bad
when
folks
were
parking
directly
behind.
H
H
D
To
the
chair
just
to
answer
the
question:
there's
approximately
twelve
thousand
square
feet
of
the
area
to
the
buildings
with
these
two
structures
and
that
works
out
to
approximately
50
parking
places
which,
based
on
my
very
quick
count,
the
parking
lot
appears
to
have
50
or
very
close
to
50
parking
spaces.
So
I
would
say
it's
on
par
with,
what's
required,.
E
So
I
empathize
with
the
parking
in
residential
areas
as
well
happens
in
my
neighborhood.
It's
it's
hard
to
to
deal
with,
but
an
hesitant
to
not
support
something.
If
there's
already
a
regulation
in
place,
that's
supposed
to
prevent
that
through
the
chair.
E
I
agree
100
with
those
comments,
and
I
would
say
one
of
the
ways
we've
addressed
this
before
is
to
ask
the
applicant
if
they
would
be
willing
to
agree
to
an
earlier
close
time
because
peak
times,
not
10
o'clock
in
the
morning
peak
times,
not
two
o'clock
in
the
afternoon
big
times
eight
o'clock
to
midnight,
especially
when
there's
alcohol
involved.
E
C
E
C
E
H
To
look
at
that
and
reduce,
or
at
least
ask
for
a
reduction
and
see
what
that
happens,
I
don't
think
either
one
of
the
other
two
properties
either.
Mr
polly
can
probably
comment.
I
don't
think
the
property
where
melon
mushroom
is
nor
the
property
where
salt
life
is
would
require
a
conditional
use,
approval
to
serve
alcohol,
beer
or
wine.
D
Yeah,
I
would
assume
that
they're,
both
special
restaurant
licenses
right.
H
F
I
mean
obviously,
if
that's
what
it
takes
to
get
my
business
open.
I
will
do
it.
I
would
still
prefer
to
stay
open
until
morning
on
fridays
and
saturdays.
Every
other
day,
I'm
probably
willing
to
close
at
8.
E
D
Doing
ballet
parking
through
the
chair
there's
a
provision
in
the
code
for
off-site
parking,
but
it
requires
literally
a
lease
agreement
to
demonstrate
that
those
parking
spaces
would
be
dedicated
to
this
business
if
they're
elsewhere.
So
they
would
have
to
provide
that
to
the
planning
development
director
for
approval
if
they
wanted
to
go
that
route.
H
Months
we
could
condition
it.
I
would
recommend,
probably
longer
than
that
like
a
year,
we've
done
that
plenty
of
times
and
have
the
applicant
come
back
then
see
if
we've
had
issues,
whether
it
be
through
jvpd
or
code
violations
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
and
if
not
then
make
our
decision
at
that
point
to
further
the
either
with
conditions
or
without
conditions
of
that
at
that
time.
So
it's
not
not
the
worst
idea.
B
D
That's
an
interesting
question
if
they
could
demonstrate
offsetting
hours,
but
if
the
business
is
closed,
she's
free
to
use
that
parking
area,
so
I
don't
know
that
it
would
really
have
a
structural
pack,
because
the
parking's
available
to
her
typically
like
downtown
there
are
places
where
somebody
has
a
vacant
lot
and
then
someone
has
a
business
that
doesn't
have
room
for
parking.
So
I
suppose
it's
possible.
I
just
don't
know
what
the
actual
benefit
would
be.
F
E
I
have
one
last
question
that
concerning
what
just
happened
about
offsetting
business
hours,
do
we
have
any
idea
what
time
the
other
business
is
in
that
shopping
center.
D
H
C
C
B
D
We
have
received
a
updated
application
for
adventure
lending.
It
is
in
the
sufficiency
review
stage,
but
I
would
expect
that
to
be
coming
either
next
month
or
the
month
after,
depending
on
assuming
their
change
is
done,
it
will
be
a
substantially
different
project.
There
were.
It
was
a
whole
process
that
went
through
fema
for
flood
zones
and
reconfigurations,
so
I
would
basically
consider
it
a
new
project
when
it
comes
in
and
should
be
substantially
different
in
layout
and
site
design.
So
the.
E
D
D
They're
still
proposing
one,
but
that
would
end
up
being
a
consideration
for
councillors.
There
would
be
cost
sharing
involved.
They.