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AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE 101222
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A
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I'll
I'll,
just
let
them
take
over
I
mean
on
our
end.
We
say
we're
very
happy
with
the
support
that
we're
getting
from
gra.
They
were
always
helpful
on
all
the
the
things
we
asked
is
basically
more
on
the
air
development
services
and
and
cost
analysis.
They
do
all
the
all
those
things
for
us.
So
with
that
being
said,
I
just
let
Mitch
and
David
to
take
over
from
here.
G
Okay,
great
thanks,
Alberto
and
good
afternoon.
Everyone
thanks
for
having
us
today.
G
We
just
have
a
a
very
short
slide
presentation,
showing
you
know
some
of
the
services
that
we
provide
to
to
the
airport
and
I'll
go
through
a
couple
of
slides
I'll,
just
introduce
myself
briefly
I'm
the
president
of
tra,
been
with
the
firm
for
about
eight
years
and
I've
been
working
with
Laredo
International
Airport
for
a
little
over
six
years.
Now
and
Mitch,
do
you
want
to
just
introduce
yourself.
H
Laredo
for
about
six
years
now
helped
us
put
together
presentations
and
do
other.
G
G
We've
worked
with
Wilfredo
since
about
5
16.
and
I
definitely
appreciate
the
continued
confidence.
G
Here
one
thing
I
just
want
to
mention
is,
as
I
think
you
all
know,
from
working
with
the
airport.
Air
Service
development
is,
is
not
an
instantaneous
or
immediate
process;
it
takes
time
and
building
up
relationships.
G
Obviously,
external
events
in
the
last
few
years,
like
by
covid,
have
been
challenging
and
have
put
on
pause
a
few
of
the
initiatives
that
you
know
we
were
hoping
to
pursue,
but
that
we're
now
you
know,
re
re-engaging
it.
We
think
that
we
provide
a
few
different
aspects
of
support.
As
we
mentioned
on
the
slide
here,
we
have
deep
knowledge
of
the
aviation
industry.
We've
worked
for
government
agencies
like
the
FAA
and
a
number
of
different
airlines
and
airports
have
very
deep
knowledge
of
data
sources.
G
G
G
We
also
know
I
have
a
lot
of
expertise
on
higher
service
incentives,
we're
currently
working
with
FAA,
actually
on
revising
their
Air
Service
incentive
policy
and,
like
I
mentioned
as
part
of
our
profit
and
loss
modeling,
we
can
estimate
what
kind
of
incentives
would
be
needed
in
order
for
a
route,
a
new
route
to
be
profitable.
G
As
I
mentioned,
we've
been
with
Laredo
since
2016.
our
initial
assignment
that
I
think
back
what
Bill
the
inspector
was
to
perform
a
passenger
Market
study
for
demand
to
Mexico
City
and
work
to
break
funds.
G
As
you
know,
that
was
ultimately
successful,
with
aramar
starting
the
race
just
about
exactly
two
years
ago,
so
we
identified
aeromar
as
the
most
likely
airline
to
serve
the
market
and
the
best
fit
given
what
we
saw
as
the
demand
and
matching
with
the
airlines
business
model
and
Fleet,
we
helped
develop
the
business
case,
identify
the
key
people
to
speak
to
at
aeromar,
helped
organize
trips
to
Mexico,
City
and
and
aeromar's
visit
to
Laredo,
and
then
we
also
assisted
the
airport
and
the
city
in
ongoing
negotiations,
because,
as
you
know,
the
FAA
requires
the
airport
to
kind
of
keep
an
arm's
length
from
discussions
on
root
subsidies
or
Revenue
guarantees.
G
So
we
helped
be
that
liaison
between
the
airline
and
and
the
city,
and
we,
you
know
over
the
two
years
the
flight
has
been
operating.
We
helped
facilitate
ongoing
coordination
with
RMR.
In
fact,
we
just
ended
our.
We
just
finished
our
our
monthly
meeting
with
RMR
to
talk
about
how
the
flight
is
performing
and
we
reading
help
renegotiate
at
a
couple
of
points.
The
contract
with
the
city
for
the
revenue
guarantees
and
the
ticket
pre-purchase
agreement.
E
D
E
Gap
and
I
mean
do
you
think
it
was,
is
it
covet
or
because
we
don't
see
the
ridership
increasing
any,
and
so
how
do
we
determine
if
that's
a
success?
I
mean?
Obviously
we
got
the
airline
here,
but
without
the
huge
incentives
and
like
I
said
I,
don't
think
it's
taking
off
it's,
not
it's
not
increasing
ridership
to
where
they'll
ever
be
able
to
do
without
anything.
G
Good
that
the
incentive
this
year
is
lower
than
it
was
last
year,
so
that's
certainly
a
step
in
the
right
direction,
but
you're
right
the
route
you
know
ridership
has
not
been
where
we
would
like
to
see
it,
or
certainly
where
the
airline
would
want
to
see
it
in
order
to
be
profitable.
G
You
know
the
the
load
Factor
has
generally
been
in
the
25
to
30
percent
range.
You
know,
aeromar
is
a
little
bit
different
because
of
their
cost
structure
than
some
other
airlines
like.
If
we
were
talking
about
United
or
American,
they
would
probably
need
about
a
70
vote
factor
to
be
profitable,
the
or
maybe
even
higher,
depending
on
the
fares.
The
aromar
break
even
is
a
little
bit
lower.
It's
a
bit
lower
than
that.
But
still
you
know,
25
to
30
percent.
Isn't
isn't
good
enough.
G
G
So
I
think
it's
an
open
question.
How
much
of
that
business
traffic
is
going
to
return.
G
So
that's
one
piece
of
it:
I
think
the
other
piece
is,
of
course,
what
fuel
prices
did
earlier
this
year
in
the
spring
and
early
summer.
That
was
why
Aramark
came
back
to
skin
back
to
the
city
to
renegotiate
the
contract
in
July.
You
know.
Originally,
the
subsidy
was
going
to
go
down
from
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
around
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
this
current
year.
G
They
did
come
back
and
ask
for
for
more
money
because
of
fuel
prices
that
have
been
hurting
the
industry
as
a
whole.
So
I
guess
big
picture.
The
subsidy
is
lower
this
year
than
it
was
in
the
first
year
we're
going
to
have
to
talk
with
them
about
you
know
what
the
route
looks
like
going
forward,
but
ultimately
to
be
successful.
I
think
we
need
that
business
traffic
from
the
city
to
to
come
back
and.
E
Let
me
ask
because
we
we
had
a
pretty
healthy
discussion
last
week
or
last
month
about
you
know,
maybe
direct
flights
to
Cancun,
which
they
used
to
have
here
a
long
time
ago
or
in
Orlando
or
something
you
know,
Disneyland,
something
that
you
know
I
don't
know.
If
any
of
these
providers
have
those
you
know
once
a
week
twice
a
week,
you
know
kind
of
like
the
Allegiant
does
to
Vegas
yeah.
D
And
just
let
me
go
ahead
and
answer
part
of
that
question.
That's
part
of
the
services
that
gra
and
David
provide
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
we're
going
for
those
type
of
meetings
this
this
this
weekend,
we're
gonna
go
to
Las
Vegas
they'll
meet
us
over
there
and
we
have
several
meetings
with
this
is
Southwest.
D
We
do
have
Southwest.
We
even
had
some
cargo
meetings
with
Amazon
air
UPS
DHL
and
some
other
companies
were
looking
to
meet
also
with
some
country
and
Frontier,
and
we
also
have
a
legion
we're
trying
to
get
back
the
Orlando,
as
you
mentioned,
but
that's
ongoing
and
like
David
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
and
it's
not
an
easy
task.
I
mean
it's
just
a
kid
knocking
on
the
doors
and
maybe
something.
E
Mcallen
I
know
it's
a
different
environment,
but
do
they
subsidize
in
Southwestern
there
yeah.
A
I
G
There
but
yeah
I
guess
it's
it's.
It
is
important
to
say
that
that.
G
Subsidies
are
pretty
common
for
new
routes.
These
days,
I
know
Harlingen.
Just
did
a
subsidy
in
the
last
year
for
I
think
it
was
an
American.
Mcallen
certainly
did
subsidies
for
aeromar
when
they
started
back
in
2012,
and
they
have
done
those
subsidies
again
over
the
years
as
their
remarks
needed.
So
it
is
kind
of
the
the
name
of
the
game.
I.
E
Understand
that
I'm,
just
saying
at
some
point,
you're
going
to
say
well,
would
cut
our
losses
and
say
you
know
what
we're
only
getting
you
know.
If
you
don't
achieve
certain
ridership,
you
know
we
don't
need
to
be
paid.
I
E
G
I
made
a
whole
ocean
on
these
is,
like
you
know,
for
for
any
City
expenditures,
whether
the
benefit
of
having
a
direct
flight
from
Laredo
to
Mexico
City
is
worth
the
it's
worth
the
cost
right.
So
there's
some
economic
impacts,
obviously
that
that
flight
brings
But.
Ultimately,
if
people
aren't
using
it-
or
you
know
that
you
decide
that
it's
not
worth
it
or
the
city
decides
it's
not
worth
that
investment,
you
know.
That's
that's,
certainly
a
decision
that
you
can
make
at
some
point.
G
H
Right
so
kind
of
the
foundation
of
what
we
do
kind
of
starts
with
the
quarterly
reports
that
we
prepare
for
the
airport.
So
we
analyze
all
kinds
of
different
Air
Service
data
from
different
sources,
so
that
that'll
tell
us
things
like
how
many
passengers
want
to
travel
from
Laredo
to
to
where
what
the
average
fares
are
and
then
another
piece
of
data
that
we
analyze
is
the
leakage
data.
H
So
we
look
at
that
data
pretty
closely
and
we
look
at
where
those
passengers
are
flying
to
that
are
driving
to
San,
Antonio
or
Austin
or
another
airport,
and
from
there
we're
able
to
use
that
information
to
prepare
pair.
You
know
kind
of
business
cases
for
different
airlines.
H
You
think
that
they're
there
is
more
demand
from
Laredo
array
to
places
than
in
the
just
looking
at
the
the
data
directly
from
the
government.
Sources
might
suggest
so,
like
Roberto
mentioned
we're
we're
meeting
with
Airlines
like
Allegiant,
for
example,
when
we're
in
Las
Vegas.
The
coming
weeks
and
we
prepare
presentations
that
try
to
show
that
you
know
there
is
demand
for
for
that
route
from
Laredo.
H
Endo
on
a
legion,
so
we're
preparing
presentations
for
that
and
a
little
bit
related
to
the
the
leakage
data
that
I
just
mentioned.
H
We've
helped
support
Laredo
airport
with
preparing
the
application
for
the
small
community,
Air
Service
development
program,
and
so
what
that
is
at
the
Federal
grant
that
gives
money
to
small
communities
to
either
retain
existing
air
service
or
to
try
to
attract
new
Air,
Service
and
Laredo
was
successfully
applied
for
a
grant
which
was
awarded
back
a
couple
months
ago,
and
so
that's
for
250
000
in
marketing.
H
Support
that
can
be
used
to
support
existing
air
service
from
you
know:
American
United
services,
but
that
money
can
help
support
the
hopefully
trying
to
reduce
that
leakage.
A
little
bit
and
trying
to
get
people
to
fly
local
out
of
Laredo.
H
That's
currently
on
laredo's
Airport
website
and
basically
with
that
type
of
do,
is
show
Travelers
in
the
Laredo
area
that
it
might
actually
be
cheaper
from
them
in
the
long
run,
to
fly
out
of
Laredo
rather
than
driving,
incurring
the
gas
expense,
the
the
mileage,
the
tolls
and
then
the
time
to
to
drive
to
say
San,
Antonio
or
Austin
so
kind
of
all
those
things
work
together
to
try
to
you
know
both
retain
the
existing
service
that
Laredo
has,
and
hopefully
it's
got
some
new
service
in
the
future.
B
B
H
Right,
so
that's
a
great
question,
so
so
Laredo
actually
purchases
the
data
from
a
third-party.
You
know
vendor
that
that
you
know
their
full-time
job
is
Aviation
data,
and
this
is
a
relatively
new
product
that
they
developed
a
few
years
ago
and
what
they
do
is
they
take
the
the
data
that
airlines
are
required
to
report
to
the
government,
the
federal
government
they
take.
That.
H
H
They
try
to
use
both
population
data
and
then
they
also
look
at
internet
search
data.
H
So
basically
looking
at
people
that
you
know
are
on
their
computer,
they
search
for
a
flight
from
say
into
to
Orlando
or
something
and
from
that
internet
search
data.
They
can
see
that
that
computer
is
located
in
the
Laredo
area.
So.
H
I've
been
with
San
Antonio
to
a
different
city,
actually
live
in
the
Laredo
area
and
they
kind
of
they
use
different
calculations
to
figure
that
out,
but
the
feedback
that
we've
gotten
from
Airlines
at
these
meetings
is
that
they
think
that
the
you
know
that
the
process
is
pretty
good,
that
it's
fairly
accurate
because
the
airlines,
of
course
they
can
tell
you
know
they
know
where
everybody
lives
based
on
the
credit
card
billing
data
that
they
get,
which
isn't,
unfortunately,
you
know
widely
available
for
for
airports
or
Consultants
to
purchase.
H
H
A
few
different
sources
of
data
that
we
receive
you
know,
including
from
Department
of
Transportation,
the
leakage
data
that
we
just
talked
to
and
then
over
the
last
few
years
you
know,
there's
been
a
few
times
where
we've
helped
the
airport
develop
surveys
of
departing
passengers
from
Laredo
to
to
find
out
kind
of
where
they
live,
where
they
travel
to
and
and
other
information
that
again
and
prepare
the
expectation
for
Airlines
to
try
to
attract
new
service.
H
And
finally,
this
is
kind
of
just
this.
Overall
summary
of
you
know
the
different
efforts
that
that
are
currently
ongoing
on
the
left
side.
Here
you
know
we're
always
monitoring
the
performance
of
the
existing
domestic
groups,
Allegiant
American
and
United,
as
David
mentioned.
You
know,
there's
ongoing
discussions,
monthly
meetings
with
aroma
support
for
for
that
service
and
then
the
upcoming
schedule
for
the
next
year
and
hilberto
mentioned
Frontier
in
Sun
Country.
Those
are
two
lower
cost
carriers
that
and
to
operate.
H
H
Coming
from
where
they
want
to
go,
and
then
also
cargo
data
and
so
kind
of
all
together
that
kind
of
summarizes,
what
you
know
will
be
helping
Laredo
with
at
the
the
conference
that
week
and
finally
on
the
bottom
right,
just
real
quick,
that's
the
that's
the
grant
again
for
250
000.
H
in
federal
funding
to
support
arts,
and
so
another
thing
that
gra
will
be
doing
is
helping
Laredo
with
implants.
And
you
know
we
would
plan
to.
You
know,
coordinate
that
with
the
airlines
to
try
to
make
best
use
of
the
money.
E
H
So
so
some
of
the
you
know
the
most
you
know
heavily
traveled
groups
are
kind
of.
You
know
some
of
the
ones
that
maybe
wouldn't
be
too
likely
to
get
service
in
the
near
term
from
Laredo,
but
those
will
be
places
further
away
like
New,
York,
City
or
Chicago.
So
those
are
the
ones
that
are
big
but
maybe
less
promising.
H
But
you
know
on
the
more
promising
side
our
larger
markets
like
Los,
Angeles,
Orlando
or
South
Florida,
including
Miami
in
Denver,
are
some
of
the
you
know,
ones
that
are.
H
For
passenger
numbers
and
kind
of
on
all
three
of
those
fronts,
you
know
particularly
for
Allegiance,
for
Los
Angeles
and
Orlando.
H
H
So
these
are
all
kind
of
cities
and
markets
that
we've
been
looking
at
over
the
years,
and
you
know
continuing
to
present
to
the
airlines
to
try
to
make
the
case
for
pray,
though
well.
E
H
Of
right,
whose
Airline
should
I,
you
know
at
least
once
a
couple
times
a
day
and
then
the
other
Factor
there
is
that
you
know
Las
Vegas
isn't
a
hub
for
either
of
those
two
Airlines.
So
that's
kind
of
one
of
the
big
reasons.
Right
now
you
know
people
one
from
Laredo.
They
can
have.
You
know
fairly
good
service
through
either
Dallas
or
Houston,
one
American
or
United,
and
then
obviously
they've
got
the
non-stop
option
options
a
week
on
Allegiant.
E
H
International
destination
and
when
we
met
with
Frontier
within
past
year,
we
did.
You
know
we
talked
to
them
about
Cancun
as
well,
because
they
do
fly
there.
G
Yeah,
just
picking
up
on
your
just
picking
up
on
your
point
about
United
and
American,
you
know
they
do
tend
to
have
different
business
models
and
that
they
they
do
want
to
fly
pretty
much
every
day.
G
G
E
E
A
E
Maybe
a
stop
in
Mexico
City
and
go
on
to
Cancun
they're,
not
a
direct
flight,
but
maybe
get
you
something
you
know
get
them
get
some
ridership,
but
no
I
was
just
wondering
what
it's
going
to
take
and
I
know
that
we're
kind
of
limited
but
like
I,
say
a
lot
of
my
friends-
do
Drive
in
San
Antonio
to
go
to
Vegas
because.
E
G
You
can't
take
that
chance,
yeah
yeah
I
do
think
Allegiant.
Yes,
certainly
they
they
had
a
lot
of
reliability
issues
going
back
a
few
years
and
of
course,
you
know
in
any
particular
flight.
G
That
they
have
much
more
much
newer,
airplane
feet,
I
think
back.
When
they
flew
from
Laredo
to
Orlando,
they
would
fly,
they
were
flying
the
md-80s
still,
which
is
very
old
and
unreliable
airplanes
and
they've
modernized
their
Fleet
quite
a
bit
since
then.
G
Next
week,
so
that's
definitely
something
we'll
be
talking
about
we're.
Also
talking
in
addition
to
Allegiant
we're
talking
to
the
airport
in
Orlando
as
well.
To
try
to
you
know,
coordinate
interest
from
that
side
of
the
equation,
because.
G
Been
about
an
Orlando
flight,
you
know,
that's,
you
know.
Two
two
two
voices
in
their
ears
are
are
sometimes
more
more
powerful
than
just
does.
E
G
Yeah
I
don't
know
that
they
have
a
commercial.
There
are
two,
you
know,
there's
Orlando
International,
which
is
where
a
lot
of
the
airlines
fly,
there's
Orlando
Sanford,
which
is
where
Allegiant
flies,
there's
an
airport
in
Melbourne
as
well,
which
markets
itself
it's
Orlando,
even
though
it's
about
an
hour
away,
I
think
that's
what
I'm
aware
of
nature.
Is
there
anything
anything.
D
F
G
Other
piece
I
just
wanted
to
mention
I'm
sure
you've
all
read
the
stories
about
the
the
pilot
shortage
in
the
country,
and
that
is
definitely
something
that
is
a
factor
for
United
and
Americans.
United
is
is
still
at
only
two
flights
a
day
to
Houston,
when
you
know
they
have
previously
been
at
three
American
is
down
to
either
three
or
four
frequencies
depending
on
the
the
month.
G
The
DFW,
and
a
lot
of
that
is
because
the
the
challenge
in
finding
Regional
airline
pilots,
which
is
which
is
affecting
the
entire
industry
and,
in
fact
United,
has
stopped
service
to
a
number
of
regional
markets.
So
so,
fortunately
Laredo
is
not
in
that
group,
but
it
is
something
that
has
resulted
in
reduced
service
because
they're
just
having
a
very
hard
time
finding
enough
Pilots.
H
D
All
right,
hopefully,
you'll,
have
good
meetings
in
Las,
Vegas,
Yeah.
B
D
D
Action
item
number
one
consideration:
to
recommend
to
the
major
and
city
council:
the
authorization
to
the
interim
city
manager
to
adopt
and
implement
the
Laredo
International
Airport,
updated
noise
exposure
maps
and
EMS
in
concurrence
with
the
Federal
Aviation
Administration
FAA
record
of
approval
date,
August
25th
to
2022.
they
updated
noise
exposure,
Maps
were
preparing
accordance
with
14
CFR
part
150
airport
noise
compatibility
planning
set
Maps
will
remain
in
effect
for
the
next
five
years
and
will
serve
as
a
basis
for
analyzing
and
comparing
operational
noise
abatement
procedure.
D
D
K
Can
okay,
perfect
I'm?
Sorry
I
am
actually
in
a
hospital
visiting
my
brother.
So
that's
why
I
have
the
mask
on
so
just
so.
Nobody
freaks
out
about
that.
Let
me
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen.
K
So
what
I'm,
showing
you
we've
done,
the
the
noise
exposure
map,
cnem
Go
full
screen.
Okay,
sure
sorry
about
that.
Thank
you,
yeah!
Is
that
better
there.
B
K
Lifting
conditions
and
those
existing
conditions
are
from
2019.,
so
they
do
show
the
noise
Contours
that
existed
prior
to
the
pandemic.
That's
really
important
because
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that.
K
Being
affected
by
the
pandemic,
so
these
are
noise
Contours
from
2019.
We
worked
with
the
FAA
to
make
sure
they
were
good
with
that
approach,
and
they
they
were
very
good
with
that
approach
and
what
you
can
see
is
we
we've
shown
what
is
the
65
Contour?
That's
the
the
biggest
Contour
there
and
the
65
is
important,
because
that
is
in
accordance
with
FAA
guidance
and
policy.
K
The
65
Contour
is
considered
to
be
where
significant
noise
impacts
occur
so
and
and
part
of
their
process
in
determining
what
areas
can
actually
be
subject
to
mitigation
measures
that
will
be
sponsored
by
the
FAA.
They
use
the
65
as
that
as
that
metric
to
to
be
able
to
do
that.
So
this
shows
you
the
existing
nem
from
2019
and
then
the
next
one
I'm
going
to
show
you
is
the
ones
for
the
future.
Okay
and
those
are
for
2026.
K
and
the
way
we
develop.
Those
is
to
look
at
the
forecast
of
operations
that
are
forecast
to
occur
at
the
airport
in
2026,
and
we
run
that
same
noise
model
associated
with
that
change
in
operations
and
when
I
talk
about
the
change
in
operations,
it's
not
just
the
total
number,
but
it's
the
type
of
aircraft.
D
K
It's
put
a
black
line
and
if
you,
if
you
look
at
those
you
can
it's
it's
hard
to
differentiate
between
the
two,
the
the
shape
of
those
Contours
is
very
similar,
but,
as
I
was
saying,
is
that
those
nighttime
noise
on
the
nighttime
operations
are
actually
treated
a
little
bit
differently,
so
your
cargo
flights
that
you
have
there
at
Laredo,
they
help
influence
the
size
and
the
shape
of
the
Contour
and
those
were
included
in
the
in
the
development
of
these
noise
Contours.
K
K
Exist
at
the
far
ends
of
each
one
off
to
the
right
side
or
what
I
would
say
south
of
the
airport.
There
is
the
The
Contours
get
just
a
little
bit
bigger.
You
can
barely
see
the
difference
there
between
the
red
and
the
the
black
line.
The
red
line
is
the
future.
The
black
is
the
existing.
You
can
see
a
greater
difference
at
the
north
on
the
north
side
of
the
airport,
where
there
is
a
little
bit
greater
size
on
on
the
Contour.
K
They
extend
a
little
bit
further
out
and
again,
that's
primarily
because
of
those
nighttime
cargo
operations
at
Laredo.
So
so
this
these
are
the
differences
that
we're
looking
at
between
the
two
different
noise
Contours,
the
point
between
the
existing
and
the
future.
Now,
why
that's
important
is
that
as
we
as
we
go
into
the
next
phase
of
this
process,
we
are
going
to
be
updating
the
noise
compatibility
program
and
these
Contours
help
inform
us
as
to
what
areas
can
be
included
within
the
noise
compatibility
program.
K
The
FAA
is
very,
you
know
they
don't
like
to
spend
money
just
to
spend
money.
They
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
being
spent
in
areas
where
it's
truly
needed,
so
so
we
use
these
areas
to
help
inform
any
changes
in
the
area.
That's
subject
to
the
noise
compatibility
program
and
we'll
be
doing
that
update
next
now,
these
these
maps,
that
I've
showed
you
have
been
they've,
been
approved
by
the
FAA.
K
The
FAA
has
done
their
their
detailed,
diligent
review
of
these
maps
and
they
have
approved
the
maps
from
their
standpoint.
So
so
what
we're
hoping
for
is
to
to
go
before
city
council
and
for
city
council
than
to
accept
these
Maps
as
well,
so
so
that
we
can
move
into
the
next
phase
of
the
of
the
noise
compatibility
program
process.
K
Then,
at
an
impasse
between
the
city,
not
accepting
it,
but
the
FAA
approving
it
and
we'd
have
to
get
into
some
discussions
with
the
FAA
about
what.
Why
would
the
city
not
accept
these
noise
Contours?
What
do
you,
what
are
the
issues
and
if
there's,
if
there
are
legitimate
issues
that
the
city
has
with
respect
to
the
Contours,
then
we'd
want
to
just.
E
Do
they
I
was
just
thinking?
Will
they
have
a?
K
House
too
loud,
you
know
right
so
so
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
take.
A
look
at
as
part
of
the
noise
compatity
program.
Are
there
changes
in
operations
that
can
occur?
Are
there
changes
in
the
flight
path?
Are
there
changes
in
way
aircraft
operate
into
and
out
of
the
airport?
That
would
help
alleviate
the
noise,
the
significant
noise
effects
that
occur
in
the
vicinity
of
the
airport?
That
would
be
part
of
the
next
step.
K
E
Then
in
2020
I
think
it
was
when
they
had
I,
don't
know
what
the
what
it
was
called,
but
you
know
they
took
some
planes
out
of
service
because
they
couldn't
comply
with
the
engine
noise
and
you've.
Seen
all
these,
you
know
the
big
Gulf
streams
with
hush
kits
and
stuff
on
them,
and
so
I
don't
know
you're,
probably
getting
a
lot
quieter:
aircraft
yeah,
you
know
yeah
that.
K
Used
to
be
that
that
is
correct,
I
mean
you
could
have
an
increase
in
operations,
but
because
over
time,
aircraft
engines
continue
to
be
quieter
than
they
have
been
in
the
past.
You
actually,
the
Contours
could
actually
shrink
because
of
the
change
in
the
overall
aircraft
Fleet
mix
at
an
airport.
So
you
you
have
a
very
good
point
there
that,
as
as
older
planes
get
retired,
you
know
that
gets
factored
into
the
the
the
running
of
the
noise
model
and
the
Contours
that's
been
come
out
of
that
noise
model.
I
E
K
Well,
Amanda
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
to
say
on
that
particular
topic,
since
you
were
the
noise
officer
there
at
San
Antonio
for
a
while.
If
there's
any,
if
you
have
any
experience
on
that
specifically
as
well
foreign.
J
E
About
is
the
military
aircraft
that
comes
and
lands
here?
Does
that
skewing
any
of
those
things
I
mean?
Obviously
it's
not
like
laggling
or
whatever,
but
you're
getting.
You
know,
f-15s
f-16s
coming
in
here
and
they're,
not
the
quietest
things
around
yeah.
B
F
K
Thrusts
going
out
yep,
those
are
actually
included
in
the
noise
model
as
well,
because
they
are
included
in
the
overall
forecast
operations.
And
so
when
we
talk
about
the
the
different
type
of
operations
at
the
airport,
military
is
just
one
category.
We
include
commercial
aircraft,
cargo
aircraft,
general
aviation
aircraft-
we
even
did
helicopters
here
at
Laredo
as
well,
so
all
of
those
have
been
included
in
the
noise
model.
So,
yes,
we
know
there's
military
aircraft
there
and
yes,
that's
included
in
what
you're
looking
at
I
know.
E
We
show
he
did
a
Model,
excluding
military
with
it,
with
the
with
the
would
it
reduce.
K
I
mean
that's
something
we
could.
We
haven't
run
that
that
would
just
be
re-running
the
Contour
and
taking
out
those
military
aircraft
and
seeing
what
the
change
in
the
Contour
could
possibly
be.
F
E
D
Can
use
after
charging
the
touch
and
goals?
I
don't
know
how
feasible
is
that,
but
there's
something
that
we
can,
because
we
don't
charge
a
landing
fees
to
touch
and
go
because
technically
they're.
D
But-
and
we
have
an
item
for
automated
the
building
we'll
get
to
that
one-
maybe
we
can
forget.
E
B
C
Sanchez,
do
you
project
acquiring
more
properties.
D
With
the
with
the
lines
well,
the
problem
there
is
that
most
of
the
people
don't
want
to
sell
so
we're
just
basically
doing
noise
abatement.
Yeah.
E
E
K
Red,
yellow,
brilliant,
well
yeah,
the
the
red
there
is
commercial
retail,
those
are
land
uses,
the
yellow
is
the
yellow,
is
family
residential,
and
then
you
also
see
some
orange
in
there.
That
orange
is
multi-family
or
residents
has.
K
Yeah
so
so
noise
abatement
has
occurred
at
a
variety
of
properties
that
that
would
be
a
separate
map.
I
don't
have
that
that
I
can
show
you
right
now,
but
there
are.
There
are
there's.
E
D
I
E
Right
all
right,
I
would
ask
so
if
it's
not
too
difficult,
if
we
can
get
that
military,
what's
the
terminology
model
model,
so
we
can
see
if
there's
a
difference
of
maybe
we
can
use
that
for
future
grants
a
little
Leverage.
D
E
E
D
Okay,
thank
you
David
and
Amanda.
That
will
be
it
for
your
item.
A
C
A
B
A
D
And
just
here
on
a
note,
there
were
two
bidders
one
Summit
and
the
other
one
was
rain.
The
lowest
responsible
dealer
was
rain.
What
does
that
mean?
It
means
that
FAA
has
a
requirement
of.
D
90
of
the
work
so
through
weba
regulations.
F
Up
position,
what
was
the
one
that
was
over
over
over.
B
E
I
C
Number
one
and
increase
the
593
by
98
763.57
for
a
professional
service
contract
with
racing
San,
Antonio
Texas
for
the
Laredo
International
Airport
to
construct
peps
away
each
one
and
each
200
reconstruct
a
portion
of
the
taxiway
eight.
This
amendment
number
one
is
to
provide
construction,
Administration,
Services,
full-time
resident
project,
representative,
rpr
Services
construction,
materials,
testing
services
and
direct
expenses
to
construct
tax
away
each
one
and
each
tool
and
construct
taxiway
8
current
contract
amount.
With
this
amendment
is
one
million
one.
F
Okay,
if
the
amendment
is
because
the
majority
of
our
contracts,
the
airport,
Advance
the
money
for
the
design
and
big
Services,
we
go
out
and
design
it
get
a
bit
and
what
we
have
the
heartbeat.
We
go
to
FAA
and
that's
when
we
get
the
grant
so
once
we
get
the
grand
we
get
reimbursed
for
the
design
and
the
bid
process,
then
we
aware
the
Construction
contract
which
which
at
the
touring
construction
and
then
now
we
have
to
have
the
consultant
for
the
construction
phase
of
the
contract.
F
H
A
B
A
A
D
D
We
man
with
Rafael
benas,
basically,
nothing
has
happened.
No
I
was
in
Leon
a
couple
of
months
ago.
He
was
there,
but
nothing.
At
least
nothing
has
been
built
to
the
airport.
So.
D
A
request
from
Joel
benavidez
status,
update
on
the
Laura
International
Airport
Financial
reports
and
budget
and
financial
policy.
I
know
you
were
you
were
drilling
my
assistant
director
that
specializes
in
construction,
without
me
being
here
on
the
finances,
so
I
hope
I
don't
get
drilled
on
construction
when
he's
not
around.
D
So
basically,
we
submit
everything
last
last
meeting-
and
here
we
as
I
recall
he
wanted
to
know
about
the
the
investment
policy
is
just
basically
boring
stuff.
I
mean
it's
just
on
the
real
based
on
on
the
everything
everything
is
here
on
the
financial
policy,
but
it's
basically
CEOs
and
bonds
approved
by
government.
We
do
follow
their
all
the
requirement
from
the
federal
government
to
invest
on
secure,
secure
assets,
nothing,
nothing,
fancy.
D
D
Yeah,
no,
it's
it's
her
money,
but
we're
basically
put
it
on
a
certificate
of
deposit.
The
government
instrument.
There's
nothing.
You
know,
type
of
stock,
Investments
or
new
tool
forms
there
are
there
are
approved,
but
the
the
ones
with
the
with
the
very
low
risk.
Basically
so.
D
Report
from
Finance
I
know
they're
not
audited,
but
that's
that's
what
we
get
here
in
this
one
out
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
we
do
get
out
it
from
the
FAA
every
now
and
then
and
if
there
was
something
wrong
with
our
finances,
FAO
can
be
giving
us
any
more
money.
Luckily,
enough,
we've
been
getting
a
lot
of
money
Lately
from
FAA,
so.
C
A
E
D
All
I
have
to
say
on
that
is
that
it's
not
going
to
be
an
easy
task.
I
mean
doing
a
cargo
only
airport
on
Mile,
13
or
whatever
mild.
It
is
I
mean
just
to
construct
the
taxiways
and
the
runways.
I
mean
you're
talking
about
millions
and
millions
of
dollars,
and
you
obviously
you
won't
get
the
the
FAA
to
support
that.
To
begin
with.
So.
D
D
Yeah
the
changes
that
we
throw
up,
we
change
the
information
based
on
the
requests
that
you
all
yeah.
We
got
that
year
and
we
separated
the
airlines.
I
I
just
noticed
that
the
the
percentage
are
wrong
here.
I
mean
they're,
taking
the
the
full
year,
not
the
cumulative
year.
So
if
you
see
a
minus
14
here
on
American,
for
instance,
that
is
taking
the
100,
the
minus
100
minus
100,
those
four
months
which
we
have
not
received
any
information,
and
that's
why
you
see,
but.
D
B
D
To
get
a
software
for
automatic
Billing
System
for
the
landing,
so
on
that
we
should
be
able
to
capture
everyone
that
lands
here
and
on
that
software
has
the
particular
feature
than
about
the
touch
and
go.
So
that's
something
that
we
can
discuss
if
we
can
start
charging
touching
goals,
if
that's
something
we
want
to,
or
we
would
like
us
to
explore,
we
can
definitely
we
can
go
that
route
with
this
software,
because
they'll
catch
all
the
information
and
they
build
them
automatically.
D
And
the
good
thing
about
this
is
that,
aside
from
Catching
everyone
in
the
in
the
long
run,
we
won't.
We
won't
need
Personnel
outside
on
the
on
the
fiso
to
attrition.
We
might.
D
And
this
basically,
we
were
collecting
this.
As
you
see
it's
a
one
year
period,
we
would
just
want
to
try
it
out.
We
were
collecting
around
1.2
million
dollars
in
fees,
so
obviously
there,
if
the,
if
the
collection
still.
D
So
that's
basically,
oh
and
the
other
one
is
the
selection
of
rsnh,
the
other
one.
You
talk
to
them
and
we
invite
a
couple
of
board
members
to
to
the
selection
committee.
Mr
JD
was
one
of
them.
Carlos
was
not
able
to
make
it,
but
there
were
five
firms
and
rsnh
was
selected
and
Mr
Mr
JD
was
here,
and
you
know
he
knew.