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COLLECTIVE BARGAINING MEETING 110922 PT 2 OF 4
B
Okay
with
that
we've
had
you
know,
we've
been
talking
about
these
numbers
for
a
long
time
even
for
today,
and
so
I
think
you
know
we're.
B
The
city
is
at
the
point
where
we're
going
to
present
our
last
best
final
offer
in
a
package
proposal
I'm
going
to
present
this
over
to
you
and
we
will
go
over
it.
B
There's
two:
it's
the
first
part
is
package
proposal
and
the
second
is
should
be
article
29,
which
is
part
of
the
which
is
just
part
of
it.
This
package
proposal
is
going
to
address
every
single
article
within
the
within
the
current
contract,
so
that
it
is
clear
what
what
we're
we're
proposing
and
what
would
amount
to
a
final
con
of
a
final
proposal
on
the
entire
contract.
B
We've
done
a
lot
of
work.
This
session
we've
met.
I
think
this
is
probably
the
14th
approximately
the
14th
time
that
we've
met.
B
What
we're
proposing
this
is
the
city's
last
best
final
offer
we're
proposing
it
at
the
10
a.m
session,
but
it
is
currently
11
35,
November
and
that's
supposed
to
say,
November
9th
I
apologize,
it's
a
typo,
November,
9th
civil
Laredo
package
proposal
and
what
we're
posing
is
articordy,
2
duration
of
the
agreement,
a
three-year
contract
to
end
September,
30th
2025.
B
number:
two.
We
have
done
a
lot
of
work
and
we
have
approximately
I
think
it
was
22.
B
We
have
20
tentative
agreements
that
we
have
signed
and
agreed
to.
This
package
proposal
includes
all
the
current
Tas
for
articles,
one
two:
five:
six:
nine
10
13
14
18,
19,
21,
24,
28,
31,
33,
34,
35,
36,
39
and
40..
B
The
next
thing
that
we're
proposing
is
for
Article
15
on
the
annual
base,
pay
we're
proposing
again
lump
sum
payment
so
that
we
can
add
pay
on
the
base
pay
or
this
year
and
not
affect
the
ad
pays,
and
we
think
we
think
that
that's
going
to
be.
We
want
us
to
put
money
in
the
directly
in
the
pocket
of
the
firefighter
as
a
lump
sum
payment
on
the
upon
the
execution
of
the
contract,
and
it
would
be
year
one
of
the
contract.
B
We
have
upped
it
to
a
three
thousand
dollar
lump
sum
payment
year,
two
of
the
contracts.
We
have
upped
it
to
three
thousand
three
hundred
dollars
on
payment
and
year
three
of
the
contract:
three
thousand
six
hundred
dollars
of
a
lump
sum
payment,
we're
requesting
or
proposing
an
article
for
the
recognition
of
negotiating
authorities.
B
The
city's
proposed
clarifying
language
on
4.3
that
which
just
does
not
change
the
intent
or
the
substance
of
the
current
provision,
but
it
just
clarifies
it
that
the
intergovernmental
contract
referred
to
or
those
which
have
to
do
with
the
services
from
the
Laredo
fire
department
in
Cleveland
not
limited
to
fire
Emergency
Services
foreign.
B
The
city
is
proposing
the
on
the
management
organization,
the
city's
proposed
language
on
7.2,
which
is
to
change
the
two
tested,
Deputy
Chiefs
to
one
Deputy
test,
one
tested
Deputy
fire
chief
and
from
one
appointed
deputy
chief
to
two
appointed
Deputy
Chiefs.
The
change
in
this
provision
will
only
be
effective
upon
retirement
of
the
next
deputy
chief,
so
it
won't,
it
won't
come
into
effect
until
the
next
retirement
of
a
deputy
chief
next
article
would
be
article
26
for
political
activities
on
a
26.3.
B
The
city
proposes
that
this
this
should
be
the
language
for
purposes.
You
should
say
for
purposes
of
the
agreement.
Political
activities
shall
be
defined
as
making
a
political
speech,
Distributing
a
card
or
other
political
nature
or
other
political
literature.
Writing
political
letters,
signing
a
petition,
soliciting
votes
and
or
contributions
display
of
political
cards,
brochures
signs
buttons
or
banners,
making
derogatory
public
derogatory
remarks
of
a
candidate
for
an
elected
position
of
municipality
events,
where
elected
official
candidates
for
an
elected
elective
position
are
self-moting
and
taking
an
active
part
in
another
person's
political
campaign.
B
For
an
alleged
position
in
this
political
activities
refers
to
the
things
that
are
prohibited
while
a
firefighter
is
in
uniform
or
on
duty.
That's
currently
in
the
contract
on
article
27,
Association,
Business
League,
the
city
with
is
posing
to
memorialize
in
the
contract
that
the
associate
Association
business
leave
cannot
be
used
for
political
activities
on
article
29,
health
and
life
insurance.
B
The
city's
proposed
changes,
including
the
union,
making
make
the
needed
adjustments
to
the
premiums
needed
to
cover
the
fire
retiring
independent
fund,
see
attached,
proposed
article
29,
and
that's
the
article
29
that
that
is
attached
to
this
I
believe
that
when
we
went
through
all
of
this
most
of
this
was
already
agreeable
know
that
on
29.7
the
and
it's
just
it's
just
a
reorganization
and
clarification
as
to
what
the
health
and
life
insurance
currently
looks
like
and
currently
is
the
big.
B
The
changes
that
the
city
had
asked
from
the
union
and
that
the
union
was
considering
was
on
29.6,
the
city
of
proposed
25,
raising
the
10
to
a
25
per
pay
period.
Oh
excuse
me
and
I.
Have
it
right
here,
foreign
It's,
probably
hard
to
see,
but
on
the
29.6,
that
the
employee
agrees
to
pay
25
rather
than
the
ten
dollars
per
paper
to
the
city,
to
offset
the
city's
cost
of
paying
the
health
benefit,
contribution
for
retired
firefighters
and
then
on
29.7?
B
It's
on
comments
at
the
open,
the
open
issue
that
the
union
will
make
them
need
adjustments
to
increase
the
current
premiums
to
maintain
a
healthy
fire,
retiree
independent
fund
to
cover
regarding
retiree
dependent
coverage
and
that's
been
discussed
at
the
table.
So
we
ask
that
that
the
commitment
for
that
being
made.
A
B
A
I
thought
we
had
presented
it
pretty.
B
B
B
A
B
B
Know
sure
I
was
going
to
ask
about
that
because
29
a
reason
it's
in
here
is
because
I
wanted.
Our
package
proposal
just
encompasses
everything
that
is
on
the
table.
So
on
29
we
know
that
you
come
up
with
or
considering
a
system
to
address
that
premium
and
that's
all
we're
asking-
and
so
we
we
put
was
our
proposal
here,
because
that's
the
last
thing
I
had
and,
and
that
is
sitting
on
article
29-
that
needs
to
be
worked
out
anyway.
Okay,.
B
Maintenance
of
Standards
the
city
just
wants
to
propose
clarifying
language
on
maintenance
of
Standards
at
the
hours,
wages,
privilege
and
conditions
of
employment.
In
effect,
at
the
time
of
the
execution
of
this
agreement
and
subject
to
this,
agreement
shall
be
maintained
for
the
life
of
the
agreement.
The
association
in
the
city
shall
usually
agree
that
any
additional
privileges
which
may
be
granted
and
removed
at
the
description
of
the
fire
chief
without
imposing
additional
contractual
obligations
and
their
post
edition
of
32.3.
B
The
remaining
articles,
which
have
been
we've,
been
going
back
and
forth
on
on
10.
It
would
be
the
rest
of
the
package
proposal
that
there's
no
change
to
the
remaining
articles,
which
would
be
article
3,
article
8,
article
11,
article
12,
article
16,
article
17,
article
20,
article
22,
article
23,
article
25,
article
30,
article
37,
article
38,
and
article
41,
and
the
new
articles,
because
I
know
that
there
were
some
articles,
new
articles
that
had
been
proposed
by
the
city
on
the
no
change
to
the
remaining
articles.
B
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
at
this
point,
although
that
we're
our
package
proposal,
because
what
we're
what
we're,
what
we're
looking
into
is,
we
know
that
article
16
and
the
percentage
ad
pays
is
a
big
issue
for
a
city
and
that
we
need
to
work
on
that.
Just
because
we're,
including
it
in
no
changes
that
mean
that
we're
that
we're
that
concern
is
still
not
there.
That
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
we're
proposing
a
lump
sum
at
this
point,
rather
than
percentage
increase
in
the
actual
base
pay.
B
Article
16
is
very
important
to
the
city
and
that's
why
we're
proposing
a
three-year
contract
so
that
we
can,
both
as
a
union
and
a
city,
to
evaluate
the
issue
study
it
and
maybe
come
up
with
some
Creative
Solutions
would
address.
All
the
items
that
we
have
previously
discussed.
B
Article
16
is
is
something
that
is
a
big
issue
that
the
city
council,
the
city,
the
management
and
the
and
the
budget
needs
to
deal
with
and
and
it
would
be
to
the
benefit
of
both
the
firefighter
the
fire
Union
and
the
city
that
we
address
the
issues
and
the
and
the
for
the
problems
that
are
arising
before
it
becomes
an
issue.
That's
too
great
to
solve.
B
A
B
Yeah,
it's
an
issue
I
think
in
The
Proposal
that
we
have
a
lot
of
the
just
the
organization
like
making
sure
that
the
life
insurance-
you
know
the
titles,
life
insurance,
dental
medical
benefits,
I.
B
That's
going
to
be
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed
by
itself
anyway,
so
so
the
article
29.
Yes,
we
need
to
talk
about
that
in
our
final
package
proposal.
We
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
covered
all
the
Articles
so
that
that's
why
we
made
reference
to
that.
But
yes,
we
can.
We
can
deal
with
that.
A
B
The
this
is
where
the
the
city's
last
best
final
offer.
The
union
is
still
that
can
still
Place
proposals
on
the
table,
anything
that
that
we
would
have
to
consider.
We
would
most
likely
have
that
goes
beyond
this
and
have
to
go
to
the
city
council.
A
A
A
To
prevent
any
any
downfall
on
that
part
beyond
that,
okay,
I
guess
we
can
just
caucus
and
being
close
to
the
Moon,
talk
it
over
lunch
and
then
come
back
at.