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Collective Bargaining Meeting 072822
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A
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A
Okay,
we
can.
We
can
try
to
accommodate
that
if
it
would
interfere.
I
don't
want
you
to
have
to
cancel
that
okay,
so
and,
if
necessary,
I
think
you
know
we
will
still
have
a
forum
we'll
work
up
I'll
work
with
my
team
to
make
sure
that
we
can
do
something
on
the
the
week
of
the
15th
and
then
the
following
week
on.
A
We've
made,
I
think,
that
that
we
have
discussed
that
we
have
made
really
good
progress
with
the
four
meanings
that
we
have
had.
We've
had
some
really
good
ground
rules.
We've
got
you
know
like
14.
I
think
tentative
agreements,
one
being
something
that
actually
didn't
have
a
change
in
it.
Y'all
have
placed
a
lot
of
very
good
substantive
proposals
on
the
table
that
we're
we
have
to
do
our
homework
on,
and
that
involves
costing,
especially
for
the
economic
impacts
and
any
impacts
it
may
have
on
operations.
A
So
we
will
be
working
really
hard
these
next
two
weeks.
The
line
of
communication
is
always
open.
I
think
that
we've
discussed
and
we
both
each
have
each
other's
cell
phones
in
emails
and
and
if
you
need
any
kind
of
request
for
information
documents
or
just
questions
on
something
feel
free
to
the
lead.
Negotiators.
Connect
can
absolutely
reach
out
to
each
other
and
discuss
okay.
G
A
G
I
mean
we
both
here
will
come
to
an
agreement.
It's
like
the
one
of
the
articles
where
we
basically
wrote
up
the
whole
article.
You
know
it
wasn't
a
steadfast
like
we
just
didn't
know
exactly
how
to
address
it.
We
understand
that
the
wording
of
it's
gonna
be
changed
because
to
make
it
sound
to
make
it
sound
very
platoon.
So
we
can
both
understand
the
clearing
of
it.
A
So,
okay
yeah.
Absolutely.
I
think
that
our
goal
is
to
try
to
make
this
a
very
a
clear
and
unambiguous
contract
that
way,
everybody
knows
what
the
intent
is.
What
the
obligations
are,
what
you
know,
what
whatever
what
the
contract
stands
for
and
that
it's
a
fair
contract
and
that's
that's,
I
think
the
ultimate.
E
G
A
G
C
A
H
A
A
A
And
then
I'll
go
through
the
articles
here
there's
there
should
be
six
and
just
look
through
your
package
and
make
sure
you
have
the
correct
articles.
I
have
article
city
laredo
proposal,
article
four
city
of
laredo
proposal,
article
7,
article
city,
loretta,
proposal,
article
10
city
of
laredo
proposal,
article
17
city
of
laredo
proposal,
article
19
and
city
loretta
proposal,
article
35..
A
A
A
37
is
grievance
procedure.
I
think
one
of
the
main
issues
that
we
really
need
to
deal
with
there
is
the
timing
of
the
award
make
sure
that
we
get
it
within
30
days.
So
so
that's
one
of
the
main
issues
I'm
going
through
and
I'm
I've
written
a
lot
of
grievance
procedures.
I've
done
a
lot
of
arbitrations,
and
so
procedurally,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
it
gives
everyone
a
fair
opportunity
and
the
due
process
is
correct
and
that
it's
timely.
A
Yes,
I
think
that's
the
main
issue
that
we've
been
dealing
with
with
another
arbitration.
So
that's
really,
I'm
focusing
on
that
and
I'll
have
a
proposal,
but
I'd
like
to
discuss
any
other
issues
that
come
up
and
we
can
maybe
collaborate.
That's
something
that
we
could
work
on
collaboratively
because
it
is
perceived
procedural,
so,
okay,
but
that
that
one
is
is
kind
of
a.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
go
through
that
one
with
a
fine
tooth
comb
and
make
sure
we
get
all
the
bugs
out
of
that
little
system.
A
Article
four-
and
this
is
the
first
time
that
I
have
negotiated
for
the
city
of
laredo,
so
I
had
some
discussion
with
my
with
my
team.
Article
four
is
a
recognition
of
negotiating
authorities.
The
only
thing
that
that
we're
proposing
is
in
section
4.3
with
regard
to
a
union
representative
for
the
negotiation
of
interlocal-
excuse
me
intergovernmental
contracts
that
involve
hiring
ems
services.
A
I
think
that
when
I've
spoke
to
my
team
in
the
history
of
this,
it
seems
that
the
intent
was
to
deal
with
intergovernmental
contracts
that
have
an
effect
or
deal
with
fire
and
emergency
medical
services,
something
that
would
affect
the
firefighters
right,
the
way
it
was
written.
I
know
that
was
the
intent,
but
there
was
written.
It
seemed
that
a
union
represents.
A
To
do
with
fire
or
ems
or
didn't
have
any
kind
of
implications,
and
I
don't
believe
that
was
the
intent.
And
so
what
we're
doing
is
providing
just
clear
clarifying
language,
and
it
would
be
where
the
city
elects
to
enter
into
an
intergovernmental
contract
with
the
county
of
web
or
any
other
governmental
entity
or
political
subdivision
of
the
state
of
texas,
and
I
just
added
clarity
to
provide
fire
and
or
emergency
medical
services.
A
A
We
added
to
the
city's
designated
negotiating
representative
in
an
advisory
capacity
only
during
the
negotiation
process,
and
the
reason
we
added
to
the
city's
designated
negotiating
representative
is
that
the
other
side
has
really
no
duty
to
bargain.
You
know
to
bargain
or
excuse
me
to
negotiate
that
intergovernmental
contract
with.
A
A
I
think
that
when
this
provision
came
about
with
an
intergovernmental
contract
that
had
to
do
with
the
provision
of
fire
services
with
the
county,
I
think-
and
so
so
I
got
some
background
on
that
and
I
believe
talking
about
the
intent.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
it's
clear
and
that
we
we
put
in
writing
exactly
what
it
was
talking
about
and
it
had
to
do
with
the
provision
of
fire
and
ems
services
pursuant
to
those
yeah.
D
I
And,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
not
replenishing
anybody
here
which
the
taxpayer
is
actually
putting
the
money
for
the
fire
service.
You
know
that
fire
truck
is
not
at
that
station,
because
it's
out
40
miles
away
from
town
we're
not
we're
not
really
really
representing
what
our
service
that
we
provide
for
the
public
right.
I
I
Crashed,
I
mean
we're
doing
our
services,
we're
doing
everything
so
rescue
a
technical
rescue,
and
I
mean
you're
depleting
services
from
the
city
from
that
person.
That's
actually
putting
in
the
the
funding
to
fully
staff
the
department
and
they're,
not
counting
on
you
being
out
of
service
out
somewhere
else
to
go.
Do
it.
So
what
we
were
trying
to
do
was
hey
if
you're
gonna,
if
you're
gonna
reach
this
agreement,
make
sure
that
it's
fully
funded
and
I
think,
at
the
time
chief
landing
had
proposed.
I
I
Well
now,
I'm
too
man
to
go,
find
a
structure
fire
here
in
the
city
of
the
radar
or
to
go
or
cpr
code
or
a
technical
rescue
or
a
hat
or
anything
else,
which
I
mean.
That's
that's
not
what
we
do.
The
more
people
we
have
bodies
on
the
truck
is
actually
better
for
our
services.
We
can
be
going
backwards
on
this.
E
I
I
When
this
was
actually
implemented-
and
I
mean
it's
geared
so
that
we
are
not
depleted
of
our
of
our
personnel-
that
way
that
any
time
that
where
our
services
are
needed,
we
are
fully
staffed
and
we
are
ready
to
go
to
go
and
mitigate
whatever
situation,
we're
tasked
with,
and
that
was
the
intent
of
that
because,
like
I
said
before,
the
contract
was
really
a
low
number
and
it
really
didn't
fund,
even
maybe
a
10
of
what
we
were
actually
getting
services.
I
think
it
was
barely
actually
covering.
G
Into
other
vehicles
that
were
going
out
there,
because
you
know
most
of
most
of
the
things
we
were
responding
to
were
ems
calls
and
grass
fires
out
of
the
item
there.
So
the
the
wear
and
tear
the
fuel
the
resources
of
actually
getting
water
out
there.
That
was
barely
covering
that
and
we
understand
the
intent
of
it
it's
up
to
here
and
limits
it
to
fire
and
ems
because
of
the
entities
that
we
actually
have
helped
out
in
other
avenues
through
that
kind
of
limited.
G
A
A
B
I
It's
just
a
number
of
things.
I
think
there
was
a
rescue.
A
guy
fell
into
the
well
out
in
the
county,
so
technical
rescue
teams
taking
their
traders
out
there
and
they're
setting
up
and
trying
to
get
the
the
patient
out.
So
I
mean
it's
a
broad
aspect
of
the
services
that
we
provide
and
and
the
way
it's
written
right
now
I
mean
you're,
just
basically
saying
I'm
going
to
put
water
on
a
fire
and
myself.
I
G
F
I
I
I
I
Yeah,
this
is
why
we
wanted
a
seat
at
the
table
to
be
able
to
voice
our
concerns,
because
I
mean,
if
I'm,
if
I'm
out
in
a
at
a
station,
that
I
know
I'm
10
minutes
away
from
any
fire
truck,
that's
closest
to
me,
because
the
other
units
are
out.
I
mean
that
10
minutes
is
a
long
time
if
I'm
fighting
a
firearm
by
the
time.
I
We're
doing
here
as
our
duty,
so
we
wanted
a
seat
at
the
table
to
be
able
to
voice
our
concerns,
because
I
mean
I
mean
when
you
call
9-1-1.
One
second
feels
like
an
hour
now
imagine
us
and
on
air
inside
a
fire
fighting
a
fire
with
a
heat
stress
and
everything
else
going
on
whether
we're
doing
a
rescue
or
fighting
the
actual
fire,
and
you
know
that
the
closest
truck
is
five
ten
minutes
away.
I
That's
an
eternity,
I
mean
you
need
the
the
manpower
right
then
and
there
so
we
just
wanted
to
be
able
to
be
at
the
table
and
say
hey.
You
know
what
these
are
our
concerns
for
safety
for
our
guys,
because
I
mean
sure
we
never
know
when
it's
going
to
happen,
but
when
it
does
happen,
we
need
it
right
and.
A
I
Where
they
work
with
those
cities
getting
managing
because
they're
using
their
hydrants
to
get
water
to
go,
put
out
the
fire
we
they
can't,
they
had
a
the
state
or
the
the
webb
county
employees.
They
had
the
water
truck.
They
would
feel
that
they
were
at
the
facility
on
59,
but
after
five
o'clock
those
guys
would
go
home.
So
from
eight
to
five.
We
were
good.
After
that.
We
had
to
drive
all
the
way
back
to
the
city
of
the
radio,
fill
up
the
water
zone
and
continue
to
fight
the
fire.
I
At
the
inner
local
agreement,
a
lot
of
times
like
if
you're
not
on
the
line
and
you're,
not
the
working
personnel
which
a
lot
of
these
guys
are
you
don't
get
your
voice
heard
because
you're
looking
at
numbers
and
you're
looking
at
this
and
you're
looking
at
that.
But
what
about
the
safety
of
the
guys
right.
E
G
Yeah,
so
I
said,
we
understand
the
intent,
and
that
was
our
intent
of
when,
when
it
was
first
negotiating
before
my
time,
everything
is
that
the
umbrella,
the
scope
we're
this
includes
the
way
it's
written
right
now,
which
we
would
have
to
come
back
with
the
currently
you
have
to.
You
know
why
not
because
the
different
services
were
being
branched
out,
for
I
know
in
the
past-
and
this
was
an
accounting
for
this
election
to
the
hospital
or
because
their
water
was
shut
down.
We
went
to
the
relay
with
our.
F
G
G
I
I
I
I
I
They
made
a
phone
call:
hey,
send
your
your
equipment
out
there,
there's
a
structure
that
are
collapsed
and
possible
people
step
inside.
So
we
hooked
up
all
our
traders
and
we
do
into
the
staging
area
in
heaven.
You
can't
predict,
what's
going
to
happen
for
natural
disasters
or
anything
in
an
emergency
situation,
but
if
there
is
time
to
sit
down
and
talk
and
say,
hey
well,
you
know
what
we're
going
to
enter
this
local
agreement,
but
now
we're
going
to
test
your
department
with
more
work.
I
C
I
I
Yes,
but
I
mean,
if
you're
foreseeing
this
thing's
going
to
go
for
the
long
term,
we
want
to
be
at
the
table
to
be
able
to
discuss
this
stuff,
because
I
mean
we
know
what
it
takes.
One
to
to
get
an
academy
graduated
out
here
too,
where
we
pretty
much
foresee
guys
that
are
leaving
and
we
actually
approach
the
city
numerous
times
and
tell
them
hey.
You
know
what
we're
looking
at
a
probably.
F
I
Of
guys
retiring,
we
need
to
start
being
about
the
manpower
just
because
the
academy
takes
so
long,
so
we
just
want
to
be
able
to
be
there
to
make
sure
that
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
hold
back
any
of
the
standard
operations
that
we
are
already
providing
for
the
city
of
area,
so
I
mean
you
call
9-1-1
over
there
if
we're
starting
to
do
all
this
extra
stuff
and
we're
not
actually
finding
it,
because
if
something
was
overseen,
we
want
to
be
there
to
be
able
to
address
an
issue
and
say:
hey.
I
I
And
we
decided
to
go
in
a
different
direction,
so
I
mean,
and
then
realistically
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day.
If
the
city
of
indonesia
comes
in
and
says
hey,
you
know
what
we
need,
your
fire
services,
we
want
to
get
into
the
global
agreement:
okay!
Well,
one:
how
far?
How
long
does
it
take
my
closest
unit
to
get
there
or
is
it
better
if
I
built
the
station?
I
A
I
just
don't
what
I
see
when
I'm
looking
here
is.
If
somebody
and
you
know
it
could
potentially
be
a
contractual
grievance,
the
way
it's
written
because
it
was
intended
to
whatever
it's
impacted
by
the
duties
that
the
firefighters
provide
the
way
it's
written.
It
says
it
would
be
any
governmental
in
any
governmental
contract,
and
I
and-
and
I
know
that
that's
not
the
intent
and
I
think
both
sides
are
agreed,
and
I
don't
want.
I
A
C
G
Subcontractor
because
they're
they're
dealing
the
two
entities
are
dealing
with
the
department
of
the
city.
Where
employers
say
the
funds
weren't
coming
in,
it
was
depleting
the
city's
funds,
while
they're
playing
also
the
response
of
the
fire
department,
because
because
of
the
fact
that
these
types
of
response
now
back,
then
it
was
more
just
fire
and
ems.
But
now
our
services
encompass
a
lot
more
of
that.
So
that
wording
kind
of
limits.
A
H
A
I'm
trying
to
avoid
is
we
have
the
opportunity
here
to
make
to
make
the
contract
better
and
because,
because
y'all
this
contract
and
this
provision
can
live
on
forever.
You
know
as
long
as
this
contract
goes
on,
you
know
they
can.
We
can
negotiate
and
people
can
continue
negotiating
we're
not
going
to
be
here
and
if
maybe
they
get
a
copy
of
our
record,
maybe
they
don't,
and
if
we
want
the
intent
to
be
clear.
A
This
is
the
opportunity
to
have
that
clear
language
here
and
what
I'm
saying
is
we're
not
taking
away
anything
from
what's
already
there.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
clear,
because
I
don't
want
some.
You
know
some
firefighter
later
on
to
say.
Well,
we
didn't
have
a
union
representative.
Is
this
intergovernmental
contract
that
had
absolutely
nothing
to
do
with
the
firefighters
or
any
of
the
services
that
they
provide,
including
all
the
ones
that
you're
talking
about,
whether
it
be
water,
hazmat,
rescue
fire
ems.
A
A
A
F
C
A
Some
of
the
other
cities
have,
the
rank
system
is
a
little
bit
different
where
they
have.
The
deputy
chief
is
right
under
the
fire
chief
and
then
they
have
the
assisted
fire
chiefs.
Here,
it's
opposite.
It's
the
assistant,
fire
chief
is
right
under
the
chief
and
then
we
have
the
deputy
chief.
So
we're
talking
about
these
two.
Those
are
the
two
ranks
that
we're
talking
about,
and
so
we
will.
We
will
provide.
We've
looked
on
what
other
cities
have
done
and
we
will
compile
that
that
information
and
provide
it
to
you.
I
don't
have.
I
I
A
I
I
C
D
C
I
A
I
A
A
A
A
That's
one
of
the
ask
that
that's
one
of
the
things
that
that
we
are
asking
for.
I
don't
know
that
the
changing
of
just
one
position
is
going
to
cause
a
you
know
a
fall
of
dominoes
that
you,
you
can
explain.
There's
a
lot
of
mechanisms
set
forth
here
in
the
city
in
order
to
make
sure
that
that
the
improvements
and
the
succession
and
the
continuation
of
projects
to
for
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city,
including
this
fire
department
and
its
firefighters,
continues,
it's
not
just
a
one-man
show.
A
G
The
one
aspect
of
this
the
changes
in
the
dynamics
of
the
way
the
departments
run
is
that,
in
case
of
all
cheaper
is
here
right
now,
but
in
the
new
in
the
future,
when
a
new
chief
gets
appointed
you're
having
an
overturn
of
four
of
the
six
administrative
positions
in
the
department.
Because
now
you
have
the
fire
chief
being
appointed,
you
have
a
new,
probably
a
new
assistant
chief
being
appointed
if
he
wants
to
convince
them
about.
G
Pre-Tested
and
disappointed
so
the
cohesiveness
still
has
to
be
there,
but
at
the
same
time,
the
the
dynamics
of
the
administration
doesn't
change
that
drastic,
as
opposed
to
from
one
day
to
the
next.
You
have
four
new
administrators
in
a
department
where,
because
of
one
appointment,
it
triggers
a
dominant
effect
on
everybody
else,.
A
J
E
K
I
A
I
I
K
I
A
A
A
E
A
I
C
I
Chiefs
now
one
was
coming
from
a
district
chief
rank.
A
couple
of
them
were
deputy
chiefs.
There's
been
some
chiefs
that
have
come
from
the
captain
rank
and
now
you're
you're
saying
that
okay,
well,
I'm
gonna
appoint
you.
You
don't
have
to
test
for
the
position,
but
now
I
just
bumped
your
salary.
So
if
you
live
25
years,
30
years
after
retirement,
you're
you're
realistically
not
making
the
rank,
you
were
at
you're
making
a
higher.
C
I
E
H
A
E
E
I
He
was
probably
in
two
years.
He
was
one
you
know
so
I
mean
you're
you're
bumping
up
for
the
long
term
and
it's
another
article
in
the
contract
and
if
I'm
I'm
able
to
appoint
whoever
I
want
or
whoever,
I
think
is
qualified
for
the
job
I
mean
you're,
talking
about
guys
are
looking
at
their
features.
Guys
are
already
have
a
set
plan.
I
have
a
set
plan
right
now
at
my
rank,
but
if
I
make
another
rank,
guess
what
my
years
might
have
gone
down
because
of
it,
but
I'm
an
assistant
position.
I
I
decided
to
qualify
myself
to
be
in
that
position
and
then
I
take
that
new
role,
I'm
in
for
the
time
that
I'm
I'm
looking
at
and
I
I'll
go
and
I'll
look
at
my
numbers
and
see
what
my
plan
is
now,
because
the
dynamics
have
changed
to
it
so
you're.
Looking
at
probably
I
mean
anytime,
somebody
goes
up
and
ranked
I
mean
their
their
their
financial
future
for
the
for
the
long
term.
Changes
just
for
the
fact,
because
you
you've
got
a
pay.
I
G
I
You
can
fully
retire
at
50.,
but
then
again
like
if
you're
doing
a
30-year
career.
Your
body
should
not
even
be
here
anymore
because
you've
taken
a
meeting
throughout
your
I
mean
so
guys
are
looking
at
when
when
I
do
retire
from
the
fire
department.
Am
I
going
to
be
health-wise
fine
to
move
around
and
do
what
I
normally
do
or
am
I
going
to
be?
I
G
K
K
K
I
I
So
I
mean
we've
grown,
probably
double
that
size
and
department
and
we
still
have
the
same
command
operate.
So
I
mean,
I
think,
we're
probably
behind
in
that
that's
right
and
if,
if
it's
proposed
to
where
we
actually
open
up
another
appointed
position,
I
mean
I
think
that
benefits
the
chief,
because
it's
another
resource
that
he
has
to
be
able
to
accomplish
the
growing
department
that
we've
had.
I
And
operating
with
his
manpower,
I
mean
even
at
the
fire
scenes
after
so
many
units.
We
need
to
call
another
chief
in
because
the
span
of
control
is
already
above
his
scope,
because
now
he
has
more
trucks
than
he
can
actually
direct
at
a
call.
So
we
call
them
another
chief
to
be
able
to
come
and
and
take
command
of
certain
units
and
then
other
units
too.
So
I'm
pretty
sure
you
if
you
were
able
to
open
up.
C
I
I
E
A
G
A
No,
I
think,
if
you
just
at
the
beginning
of
the
article
put,
did
not
report
and
put
dnr
and
then
the
rest
of
the
references
to
dnr.
I
think
that
that
can
remain
the
same.
It
was
just
so
that
you
don't
have
to
actually
flip
back
to
the
definitions,
even
though
it
is
it
is,
it
does
say
in
the
definitions:
dnr
equals
did
not
report
you're.
B
A
Shift
changes
will
be
paid
back
hour
for
hour.
Date
of
payback
must
be
stated
on
work,
exchange
form,
but
maybe
changes
needed
and
is
agreed
upon
by
the
employees,
and
we
are
proposing
to
add
and
as
a
crew
by
the
station's
district
chief
captain
and
acting
captain,
and
the
only
reason
for
this
change
is
for
operational
purposes,
because
when
there
are
last
initially,
when
you
get
the
the
exchange,
it
has
to
be
approved
by
those
either
the
supervisor,
either
the
district
chief,
the
captain
or
the
acting
captain
and
then
later
on
the
payback.
A
That
a
district
chief,
a
captain
or
an
acting
captain
just
sign
off
on
it
or
approve
it
just
so
they
know
they
know
who
to
expect.
You
know.
You
know
I
think,
there's
been
some
instances
where
the
payback
has
been
changed
at
the
last.
You
know
the
last
minute
by
agreement,
of
course,
but
then
the
supervisor
doesn't
know
who's
showing
up
or
didn't
expect
that
person
to
show
up
and
we're.
A
E
A
K
A
So
that's
already
approved
this
additional
is,
if
it's
a
last
minute
or
like
a
a
change
in
the
payback
time
after
the
fact
that
it's
been
approved,
so
I'm
guessing
depend-
and
I
don't
know
y'all-
can
educate
me
on
this,
but
I
don't
know
a
situation.
There
may
be
a
situation
where
it
just
doesn't
work
and
the
supervisor
will
say
well.
You
know
I
can't
do
that.
It's
gonna
have
to
be
for
the
original.
K
F
A
F
H
G
Around
basically
so
the
waves
right
there,
other
people
can
interpret
to
me
something
can
get
you
different
that
you're
not
intending
well
here.
What's
up
so
because
the
way
it
is
that,
if
I'm
going
to
change
it,
because
you
know
what
I
didn't
need
today
after
all
or
that
that
wouldn't
work
for
me,
whatever
you
didn't,
let
me
know
hey.
I
can't
work
because
family
is
where
all
right.
Let
me
go
and
change
it
now
upon
that
change.
G
A
E
A
D
A
A
Just
addition
that
we
made
was,
when
you
look
at
the
provisions
specifically
17.1
and
17.2,
it
was
hard
to
decipher
what
it
was
really
talking
about.
So
what
I
did
was
just
add,
17.1
added
in
bold
the
beginning.
It's
called
back
because,
as
I
as
you
read
this,
this
provision
does
talk
about
call
back
and
the
rest
of
the
provision
stays
the
same.
The
callback
is
in
any
situation
where
an
employee
is
required
to
work
additional
time.
A
The
employee
shall
be
paid
for
a
minimum
of
four
hours,
provided
that
the
employee
works
for
the
four
hours.
If
the
employee
and
employer
agree,
however,
that
the
employee
will
work
less
than
the
minimum
for
our
work
period,
then
the
employees
shall
only
be
paid
for
the
actual
hours
worked,
and
this
is
for
when
a
firefighter
is
off
duty
and
actually
gets
called
back
into
the
for
and
which
could
potentially,
I
think,
most
of
the
time
you
overtime,
correct
17.2.
A
A
A
The
employees
shall
be
paid
for
the
full
work
period,
provided
that
the
employee
works
for
the
full
work
period,
and
so
we
want
to
make
clear
that
this
is
for
a
stay
over.
This
is
when
you're
on
duty
getting
off
duty,
and
maybe
the
person
that's
relieving
you
from
duty
either
calls
in
sick
or
is
late
or
something,
and
the
supervisor
needs
additional
time
to
fill
in
that
vacancy.
A
A
So
what
this
is
is
the,
rather
than
four
hour
intervals,
we're
moving
into
two
hour
intervals
to
allow
the
the
firefighter
who's
coming
off
of
beauty,
to
not
be
there
so
long
longer
than
necessary
and
enjoy
their
day
off,
and,
and
so
it
won't
affect
any
future,
maybe
possible
over
time
that
they
have
been
playing
or
a
switch,
or
you
know
some
other
exchange
or
whatever.
Whatever
else
that
is
so.
This
is
in
two
hour
work
period
intervals,
and
so
it
doesn't
commit
the
firefighter
to
have
to
stay
for
four
hours.
I
E
H
H
Have
two
hours
you
come
back
to
the
station,
you
usually
sign
on
from
one
hour
or
time
you
go
home
at
nine
a.m.
The
second
one
is
when
they
call
you
for
because
it
says
the
employer
shall
specify
the
amount
of
time
to
be
worked.
So
that's
when
they
call
you
and
ask
you
hey.
Can
you
come
work?
Eight
hours.
A
I
K
A
F
D
A
On
article
19
on
longevity
page,
this
is
really
just
a
cleanup
it.
Just
every
employee,
in
the
bargaining
unit
shall
be
paid
five
dollars
per
month
for
every
year
of
service
if
he
or
she
has
been
employed
as
a
member
of
the
loyalty
fire
department
and
we're
just
changing
he
and
she
today
and
has
to
have
that's
all
it
is.
G
A
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
reference
to
the
activity,
loretta's
policy
on
sexual
harassment
and
other
forms
of
harassment
was
didn't,
have
to
always
be
updated
and
that
the
ordinance
reflected
was
correct.
So
it
reads:
fire
department
and
association
announcements
shall
be
posted
on
official
bulletin
boards
designated
by
both
parties.
A
A
A
K
So
I
think
it
just
might
say
an
extra
hour
and
it's
a
two
hour.
I
guess
is
a
you-
might
have
a
part-time
job
that
you
can't
go
to.
So
I
guess
give
the
guys
an
option.
Hey
we've
already
messed
up
your
your
day.
You
can't
go
to
your
part
time,
allow
them
to
hey
at
least
stables
additional
four
hours
to
make
some
of
that
stuff
up.
If
you
want,
you
know:
okay,
yes,
the
way
it
was
intended.
A
A
G
E
A
C
F
K
J
G
G
As
it
reads
right
now,
annual
based
salary
adjustments
for
firefighter
condensed,
firefighters,
fire
assistant
drivers,
fire
drivers,
fire
captains,
fire
district
chiefs,
deputy
chiefs,
slash
fire
marshal
and
assistant
fire
chief
shall
be
as
follows:
whether
they
effect
upon
ratification,
disagreement
approved
by
city
council.
The
annual
base
shall
be
increased
by
one
and
a
half
percent
effective
october.
G
G
G
G
F
G
F
A
F
F
A
H
H
Nine
point
also
the
raised
cost
of
living
per
capita
here
in
laredo.
Specifically,
I
know,
we've
seen
an
increase
in
both
property
taxes
and
the
market
valuation
for
households.
The
median
has
grown
in
about
50
000
in
the
last
two
years,
and
it's
projected
to
keep
growing.
That's
something
that
I
think
you
know
the
city
of
laredo.
Firefighters
should
should
not
have
to
struggle
to
live
in
laredo,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
their
their
wages
reflect
a
good
living
condition.
H
H
The
size
of
the
city
has
also
been
growing,
so
I
know
we're
capped
at
3.5
from
any
kind
of
property
tax
growth
here
in
the
city
of
laredo-
we're
actually
statewide
right,
but
we've
met
that
cap
at
3.5,
but
that
doesn't
encompass
any
new
property.
So
any
new
growth
of
the
city,
that's
valued,
is
also
factored
in.
We
did
have
on
the
budget
that
the
2021
to
2022,
the
city
of
oregon
projected
around
3
million
growth
in
property
taxes
alone.
H
The
sales
tax
has
also
rebounded
from
our
covered
year
actually
went
up
15
from
the
year
prior
we
do
have.
The
city
of
laredo
has
received
a
lot
of
federal
money
in
the
last
few
years,
including
the
american
rescue
plan,
approximately
anywhere
from
75
to
80
million
and
the
airport
I
mean
I
can
list
all
the
revenues
that
have
been
going
on
for
the
city
side.
So
I'm
the
firefighter
side.
C
H
H
Video
has
kind
of
seen
the
investment
they've
made
in
our
fire
department
to
be
paramedics
to
be
certified
and
firefighting
plenty
of
other
stuff.
These
last
few
years,
we've
been
tasked
to
do
a
lot
more
than
any
regular
fire
department
has,
especially
with
kobe,
the
uncertainty
of
it,
and
I
felt
we
feel
that
our
firefighters
have
have
reassured
the
taxpayers
that
their
investment
has
gone
more
than
has
been
very
productive
and
successful,
because
we
provided
a
service
in
our.
G
H
G
So
our
services
are
multi-faceted
because
it
kind
of
reflects
what
we're
talking
about
earlier,
when
it
was
the
intergovernmental
agreement,
where
it's
no
longer
just
fire
ems.
Of
course,
we've
always
provided
armed
services.
Since
I'm
here
in
the
department,
we
provide
technical
rescue
hazmat,
but
it's
grown
beyond
that
because
of
it
has
shown
us
where
the
department
as
a
whole
has
just
taxed
him
more
and
we
responded
to
it.
G
G
We
also
helped
the
hospitals,
because
we
were
basically
their
triage
and
bed
control
and
we
had
our
call
center
going
because
of
coal
with
a
lot
of
people
were
coming
in,
didn't
want
to
go
to
the
hospitals,
but
they
were
ill.
You
know
they
were
basically
getting
because
of
the
nurses
that
were
employed
by
the
city
by
the
fire
department
that
most
of
them
got
their
education,
while
they
were
here
where
they
were
able
to
provide
that
source
over
the
phone.
G
Someone
didn't
have
to
call
someone
or
see
him.
As
you
know,
what
this
is
a
critical
we
are
going
to
send
you
somebody
so
help
not
overload
the
hospitals,
because
we
did
see
it
in
the
valley.
We
got
to
other
organizations
where
the
waiting
period
because
of
the
hospitals,
the
gist
of
the
proximity
to
it.
Airbus
went
to
one
hospital
and
it
was
just
swamped.
There
were
waiting
periods
of
two
to
three
hours
or
being
reported
here
through
this.
G
G
G
That's
to
reflect
on
some
of
these
on
some
of
the
services
that
were
provided
through
the
department
beyond
what
had
been
told
before,
where
it
was
fire
ems,
technical
rescue,
hazmat
airport
rescue
firefighting.
Now
we've
gone
to
community
outreaches,
where
just
different
services
that
are
being
provided
through
the
state
to
the
city
through
the
fire
department.
H
But
we
see
that
the
the
city
citizens
also
value
us,
as
there
was
a
survey
done
in
2021,
where
35
percent
of
participants
value
public
safety.
That's
one
of
the
most
important
services
here
in
the
city
of
europe.
So
we
know
that
the
city
does
value
the
resources
being
allocated
to
the
fire
department
and
the
services
that
we
bring
to
the
community.
A
D
G
H
G
The
city
shall
contribute
an
additional
one
percent
of
all
firefighters
paid
towards
the
lfrs
effective
beginning
the
first
paid
payday
of
october
2018.
The
city
shall
contribute
an
additional
0.25
percent
or
quarter
percent
of
the
firefighters
pay
towards
the
lfrs,
increasing
the
contribution
to
20.35
effective
beginning
the
first
pay
first
payday
october
2019.
The
station
contribute
an
additional
quarter
percent
of
the
five
hours
paid
towards
lfrs,
increasing
contributions
to
20.6
effective
being
the
first
first
payday
october
2020.
G
The
city
shall
contribute
an
additional
quarter
percent
of
the
firefighters
pay
towards
nfrs,
increasing
contributions
to
20.85
effective,
beginning
the
first
payday
october
2021.
The
city
shall
contribute
additional
quarter
percent
of
the
firefighters
paid
towards
the
nfrs,
increasing
the
the
contribution
to
21.10.
G
G
G
C
K
Kind
of
work
it
out
before
and
there's
two
different
plans
that
are
being
proposed
for
our
members.
Now
one
has,
I
guess,
more
cuts,
and
one
one
has
more
cartoon-
has
less
cuts
once
contingent
on
the
city
to
be
able
to
get
down
to
the
amortization
that
was
supposed
to
be
at.
I
think
you
know,
we've
had
two
bad
reviews
and
because
of
those
two
bad
reviews,
we
you
know
the
the
state
mandates
that
we
come
up
with
a
plan.
K
You
know
in
partnership,
the
city
and
the
firefighters
to
be
able
to
fix
the
the
pension.
You
know
we
don't
want.
You
know
the
state
to
have
to
come
down
and
mandate.
What
we
were
both
gonna
have
to
do
right,
so
we're
trying
to
there
are
drastic
cuts
to
be
able
to
one
of
the
things
is
the
overtime
that
we're
getting
rid
of
that.
I
think
it's
a
major
one.
That's
going
to
bring
down
the
amortization
period.
K
I
think
right
now,
it's
over
50,
50
years
that
we
have
so
even
the
one
with
less
cuts
just
off
of
firefighters.
It
gets
it
down
to
around
30
years
amortization.
So
there
are
drastic
cuts
that
the
firefighters
are
looking
to
make
and
and
as
well,
including
possibly
an
extra
one
person
on
their
part
to
be
able
to.
K
C
H
I
I
G
H
F
H
G
Kicked
into
it
is
that
the
rate
of
return
is
actually
to
try
and
attempt
it
to
be
brought
down
to
moral
realization,
which,
in
and
of
itself,
is
becoming
self-inflicted
because
we're
trying
to
correct
something
that
was
already
wrong
and
by
doing
that,
it
automatically
shoots
our
prioritization
years.
So
we're
attempting
to
correct
that,
while
correcting
that
it's
just
you
know
having
an
area
of
effect
going
back
to
what
oscar
said
is
that
we've
already
been
through
two
phases
where
we've
been
drastically
understaffed.
G
H
Yeah,
like
I
said,
I
know,
we've
been
in
contact
with
the
city.
In
the
past,
we
sat
down
with
cabrillo,
I'm
back
with
the
former
robert
roberts,
former
city
manager,
and
we
we
know
that
this
pension
is
funded
pension
and
we
want
to
be,
you
know,
responsible
fiscally
with
this
pension
and
but
we
want
the
input
of
the
city.
So
we
feel
that
because
these
things
happen
that
affected
the
city
also
negatively
affected
us,
and
we
should
work
together
to
come.
I
G
K
H
K
F
C
C
I
J
C
C
C
I
G
H
C
Let's
think
about
this,
like
not
saying:
yes,
nothing,
no,
we're
not
saying
anything,
but
let's
think
about
it.
So
if
the
city
decides
we'll
give
you
this,
but
then
they
say
no,
how?
How
do
we
get
us
to
to
both
commit
to
whatever
it
is
that
we're
going
to
get
approved
because
one
is
not
successful
with
it
without
the
other?
I.
K
G
G
I
know
I'm
wondering
during
the
meeting
yeah
the
question
was
asked:
what
do
we
need
in
order
to
maintain
current,
and
I
believe
it
was
like
four
point,
like
a
ridiculous
amount
that
we
would
have
to
put
in
and
even
then
we're
still
in
the
same,
we're
still
in
the
same
vote
because
of
the
fact
that
the
benefit
cuts
weren't
going
to
be
triggered
like
you
know
what
we
as
a
membership,
understand
that
those
benefit
cuts
need
to
happen
in
order
to
sustain
a
healthy
pension
fund.
For
basically
everybody.
That's
here
right
now
and
beyond.
G
K
F
C
G
J
G
E
H
G
E
F
G
B
H
A
Okay
and
then
I
have
prepared
the
article
19
and
article
35
tentative
agreements,
and
article
19
is
here
I'll.
Give
you
the
we'll
use
those
as
a
two
original.
I'm
just
going
to
use
this
copy
to
read
them.
It's
article
19
longevity
pay.
Every
employee
in
the
bargaining
unit
should
be
paid
five
dollars
per
month
for
every
year
of
service.
A
It
was
he
she
were
changing
today
and
it
was
has
and
were
changing
to
have
been
employed
as
a
member
of
the
laredo
fire
department
and
then
the
other
tentative
agreement
we
have-
and
these
will
be.
The
two
originals
which
is
usually
distributed
from
is
article
35,
the
official
bulletin
boards,
and
here
we're
just
adding
where
you
can
obtain
a
copy
of
the
city
of
laredo's
policy
on
sexual
harassment
and
other
forms
of
harassment
and
we're
adding
which
is
available
in
the
city
of
laredo's
public
website.
D
D
C
A
So
because
we
have
a
lot
of
articles
that
we
need
to
respond
to
that
require
a
lot
like
costing
and
really
looking
at
the
information
and
probably
seeking
more
information
from
from
you
just
depending
on
how
it
goes,
we
will
have
we
we
have
two
weeks
to
work
on
it.
We
do
have
budget
workshops
in
the
midst
of
that
I
we
can
tentatively
put
book
two
dates
and
if
it
works,
we
can
continue
with
the
date
back
to
back.
E
C
H
G
C
H
E
E
E
K
A
A
A
F
A
A
A
A
A
Sometimes
things
take
longer
we're
really
going
to
utilize
these
two
weeks
to
do
a
lot
of
homework
on
our
side
to
try
and
make
that
add
efficiency
to
that,
but,
as
we're
progressing,
you
know,
I
don't
know
we'll
see
how
far
we
go,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
through
all
the
proposals
and
have
time
to
do
that
and
we're
of
course
willing
to
to
do
that
as
we're
moving
forward.
I
think
that
the
ultimate
goal
is
to
come
up
with
a
contract.
Yes
and.