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Economic Development Advisory Committee Meeting, 07/13/2023
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A
A
F
And
Mr
chairman,
if
I
may,
before
we
start
with
the
agenda
items,
I
would
like
to
introduce
our
new
team
member
Hector
Ramirez
Hector
Ramirez
just
joined
our
department
last
week,
he's
going
to
be
our
business
development
specialist.
We
have
already
started
working
on
some
projects
and
he's
gonna
be
key
to
the
projects
that
we
put
together.
Moving
forward
for
downtown
and
inner
city
with
development.
A
G
G
That's
where
the
majority
of
my
background
comes
from:
they
don't
work
and
work
with
edc's
before
I've
worked
with
small
business
lending
institutions.
So
that's
the
value
that
I
hope
to
bring
the
department
and
work
together
in
tandem,
With,
the
Wind,
Miriam
and
Arnold
to
work
on
those
particular
initiatives
geared
more
towards
our
local
small
businesses.
So.
A
F
The
subcommittee
met
and
some
recommendations
were
made
in
your
packet-
you
will
include,
you-
will
have
the
final
draft
based
on
the
recommendations
of
the
committee
highlighted
in
green
are
the
sections
that
were
taken
into
account
based
on
the
last
meeting,
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
all
want
to
take
the
time
to
go
over
them.
I
do
know
that
there
might
be
some
concerns
regarding
the
provisions
for
sidewalk,
cafes
and
parklets,
and
this
is
feedback
that
we've
been
getting
Provisions.
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F
F
E
F
Well,
it's
not
inspection.
This
is
just
feedback
that
we've
been
receiving,
just
to
make
sure
that
there's
gonna
be
enough
space
allocated
on
the
sidewalk
in
the
event
that
a
business
applies
for
both
a
part
in
a
sidewalk
as
of
right
now,
yes,
it
specifies
that
they
need
to
comply
with
ADA
requirements
and
the
the
guidelines
that
we
included
in
the
guidebook
says
that
they
need
to
allow
for
three
feet
now.
If
the
committee,
you
know,
if
this
is
a
semi-final
drug,
that
the
committee
feels
confident
with
we
can
move
forward.
F
E
I
mean
if
the
concern
is
about
ADA,
accessibility
and
all
that
stuff
and
there's
concerns
that
you
know.
Maybe
somebody's
thinking
that,
on
the
accessibility
right
now
is,
is
pretty
small
because
of
it's
enforcement
related.
So
you
just
enforce
it
and
you're
going
to
have
the
permits
for
each
of
the
cafes
and
each
of
the
parklets
so
they're
not
meeting
those
requirements.
You
just
quoted
from
a
pretty
straightforward
and.
A
That's
allowed
in
our
subcommunity
meeting.
We
made
sure
that
there's
no
kind
of
like
I
would
say
penalties
when
it
came
to
fees
if
you're,
just
knotted
with
this,
the
city
has
every
right
to
pull
it,
and
we've
been
working
on
this
for
longer
than
five
months.
I
would
say:
I've
been
working
on
this
with
the
city
for
a
year
and
a
half
now
I've
reviewed
this
thoroughly.
A
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K
I
was
supposed
to
renew
that
and
make
it
look
better,
but
I
stopped
everything
when
I
was
told
that
the
city
might
not
give
us
permits
anymore,
that
there
was
some
stuff
going
on
with
the
city.
So
I
said:
I'm
not
gonna,
invest
another
five
thousand
dollars
to
make
it
nice
when
they
could
potentially
pull
the
parties
from
me
and
I.
Don't
want
to
spend
that
kind
of
money.
That's.
J
The
fee,
how
will
you
know
that
that
you've
invested
1500
I
I
asked
us
to
have
to
do
that
because
it
stayed
in
my
head
all
that
time,
I
didn't
I
didn't
get
it
I.
It
didn't
I,
didn't
capture
all
how
you
could
say
it's
better
for
the
owner
of
the
building
to
invest
fifteen
hundred
dollars
into
the
building
so
that
we
don't
charge
them
a
fee.
But
how
do
we
know
that
you
invested
the
fifteen
hundred
or
the
two
thousand
dollars,
whatever
that?
How
how
do
you
know
that?
Because.
H
J
K
Well,
it
is,
you
can't
just
drop
everything
on
there.
You
have
to
actually
bolt
everything
on
iron
is
expensive.
The
labor
is
expensive.
It's
got
to
be
the
design
in
the
way
that
it's
actually
stable.
It's
in
fall
over.
Remember
people
with
alcohol
in
their
system
tend
to
be
a
little
clumsy.
They
push
things
around
understood,
so
it
takes
money.
Unfortunately,.
I
E
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E
So
you're
the
450
just
to
get
the
application
in
and
you
haven't
done
anything
and
then
the
initial
structure
was
I.
Think
what
was
it
15
or
2
000
bucks
of
the
fee
that
the
city
wanted
to
charge.
I
think
a
thousand
five
hundred,
a
thousand
five
hundred
so
you're
already
in
450,
plus
a
thousand
five
hundred,
and
you
don't
even
have
anything
put
out
on
the.
J
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F
Of
this
and
if
I
may
add
other
cities
as
well,
yes,
they
have
very
successful
project
programs,
but
at
the
same
time,
the
city
itself
has
a
team
and
a
department
that's
in
charge
of
just
that
program.
So
there
are
costs
associated
as
well
with
running
these
technical
programs.
The
original
fee
that
was
recommended
by
the
committee
by
the
staff
by
then,
which
was
in
the
range
of
1500
to
2000,
was
based
precisely
on
that
as
well
now
I
know.
The
discussion
has
been
on
the
table
as
to
well.
F
This
is
just
an
introductory
program.
You
know.
Maybe
we
can
have
some
sort
of
a
feature
that
it's
gonna
increment
here
actually
after
after
year,
but
we'll
also
run
into
the
issue
of
business
owners.
How
are
they
going
to
take?
You
know
going
from
a
200
fee
to
a
one
thousand
dollar
fee
in
the
event
that
the
program
is
successful.
How
are
we
going
to
cover
the
costs
of
running
the
program
as
well?
That
was
one
of
the
I
mean
we're
going
to
be
comparing
programs,
you
know
with
other
cities
as
well
and
partners.
A
I
I
I'd
just
like
to
say
to
that.
We
can't
just
look
at
the
programs.
We
have
to
look
at
where
these
programs
are
actually
targeting
I
think
our
downtown
is
pretty
far
behind
whatever
these
other
programs
are,
and
on
top
of
that
we
have
an
item
on
the
agenda.
That's
going
to
cover
basically
one
of
the
very
high
costs
that
a
lot
of
these
business
have
to
incur
with
your
filters
that
are
anywhere
between
three
to
five
hundred
dollars
a
month.
Okay,
if
they
were
located
in
the
North
there's
issues.
L
A
L
If
we
have
both
a
parklet
and
a
Sidewalk
Cafe,
where
are
the
people
gonna
walk
through
if
one
individual
one
owner
decides
to
have
both
and
she
says
well,
it's
going
to
have
to
be
through
the
middle
of
both
I
said:
okay,
how?
How
much
is
the
distance
as
an
example-
and
she
said
well,
that
was
the
bound
itself
and
I
said
why?
L
Because
the
committee
we,
the
staff,
recommended
for
four
feet
and
the
community
recommended
three
and
I'm
thinking
I've
been
there
I've,
driven
by
on
a
Friday
night,
purposely
and
I
know
how
crowded
it
gets
and
to
me
even
minimizing
it
died
on
three
feet.
We
still
we
still.
The
city
need
to
have
ADA
compliance
and
we
were
probably
barely
going
to
be
able
to
fit
it.
Whatever
happens
right,
a
handicapped
person.
So
why
not
leave
it
at
four
feet?
The
way
we
originally
had
the
city
had
recommended.
A
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So
there
was
like
inconsistency,
so
I
kind
of
told
Miriam
what
if
we
propose
and
I
was
thinking.
What
do
we
propose?
It's,
not
final,
nothing's
final,
we're
just
talking
what,
if
those
who
have
parklets
don't
have
sidewalks,
or
vice
versa,
just
to
try
to
figure
out
the
spacing
for
ABA
compliance
if
it
happens,
because
we
haven't
even
like
no
one's
touched,
it
no
one's
looked
at
that
and
then
she
was
like.
L
Well
that's
a
good
idea,
but
then
I
know
that
staff
has
other
recommendations
that
they've
spoken
of
today
and
I
have
not
spoken
to
them
completely
about
it.
I'm
just
saying:
there's
things
that
we
want
to
do
with
limited
space,
and
so
how
can
we
get
it
done
safely
and
get
both
of
them
done?
I,
don't
think.
We've.
F
Looked
at
that
and
the
truth
of
the
matter
is
that
I
don't
think
we'll
be
able
to
come
up
with
just
one
ordinance
or
one
guideline
booklet.
That's
gonna
apply
to
every
single
business
in
downtown,
because
the
sidewalks
are
different.
The
challenges
are
different.
The
limitations
are
different
in
every
street.
That.
L
Sidewalks
and
I
was
like
if
that
was
my
mind
yesterday
and
I
was
like
you,
oh,
so
you
don't
want
to
build
out.
No
shoes
I
wanted
to
be
out
in
the
street
like
a
parklet
and
so
I
thought
she
was
going
to
be
here
today,
so
that
she
could
discuss
things
with
us
and
I
was
like
that's
taking
us
a
totally
different
direction.
I.
A
Spoke
here
this
morning
regarding
her
concerns,
and
she
her
only
concern-
is
traffic
flow,
because
I
did
mention
to
her
that
basically,
every
bar
it
is
only
allowed
to
park,
let
avoid
that
they
can't
apply,
because
TBC
requires
them
to
actually
fence
in
the
section.
So
any
bar
actually
cannot
apply
for
a
particles.
It
wouldn't
work.
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F
That
comment
goes
back
to
not
having
an
ordinance.
That's
gonna
completely
apply
to
every
single
property
in
downtown
okay.
Now,
if
this
item
moves
and
if
the
ordinance
is
adopted,
yes,
there
can
always
be
amendments
as
we
move
forward
and
we
start
seeing
what
the
challenges
are
being
presented
with.
Every
application
building
department
will
have
the
authority
to
either
deny
our
applications.
It's
all.
L
F
Hey
guys,
what
I
mean
is
it's
a
business
work
to
apply
and
just
the
required
dimensions
of
the
sidewalk
cafe
and
the
ADA
requirements,
and
the
three
feeds
that
are
required
by
ornas
are
not
met
based
on
the
side
plans
that
the
business
submits
and
then
compartment
can
go
with
four
and
that's
an
item
for
discussion.
Let's
go
back
to
four
and
that
can
be
a
recommendation.
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B
More
space
you
have
the
better
right,
I
mean
so,
if
you're
asking
for
I
can't
base
on
the
fire
Pro,
because
I
mean
once
you're
out
of
the
building
you're
at
a
public
way.
So
that's
the
termination
of
your
means
of
egress,
but
obviously
I
mean
for
pedestrians,
the
more
space
you
have,
the
better
one
of
the
things
that
the
fire
code.
B
A
Requirements,
movable
chairs
and
tables
can
be
placed
within
this
area
if
they're
removed
as
needed
to
accommodate
disabled
disabled
persons.
The
entrance
of
the
parklet
must
be
a
minimum
of
36
inches
wide
to
accommodate
the
wheelchair.
Additionally,
where
is
it
additionally?
At
least
three
feet
must
be
pedestrian.
The
passage
Zone
must
be
maintained
on
the
city
sidewalk.
This.
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A
A
K
H
K
Just
said,
the
water
quality
downtown
is
just
beyond
horrendous.
I
mean
ice
machines,
the
filters
you're
supposed
to
change
them
about
every
six
months
or
so
I'm
changing
them
on
a
monthly
basis.
It's
a
400
cost
to
change
the
filters
alone,
clean
the
machines,
but
when
the
problem
is
a
little
bit
worse
than
that
and
it
breaks
down
the
machines
and
I
have
to
replace
Parts
on
the
machines
and
do
more
intense
labor
on
them.
K
K
L
What
we
can
do,
I
was
told
by
by
our
young
director
about
it.
What
we
could
do
is
we
could
do
tests
on
site
on
the
line
before
it
gets
to
the
building.
Here's
your
filter
less
than
a
month
old
and
then
another
one,
and
if
that's
an
issue,
then
we
will
come
back
and
let
you
all
know,
but
if
it's
an
issue
between
the
plumbing
that's
inside
the
building,
that
would
be
a
different
story.
This
is
another
property
owner
that
submitted
this.
To
me,
this
is
down
the
road.
K
K
L
So
my
recommendation
is
for
everyone
to
do
that
for
3-1-1
I'll
get
your
address
so
that
we
could
go
personally
test
right
outside
words
or
right
away
the
city's
right
away
to
see
what
the
quality
of
the
water
is
and
to
show
those
samples.
If
there's
an
issue,
definitely
we'll
have
to
work
through
it
and
give
you
an
update
on
it.
But
if
it's
an
issue
inside
the
properties.
A
Yeah
I
I
wanted
to
bring
this
item
because,
even
though
this
could
be
viewed
as
just
like
a
city-wide
or
not
city-wide,
but
downtown,
both
residential
and
Commercial,
which
shocked
me
was
what
businesses
were
telling
me
how
to
pay
a
month
to
keep
the
water
in
the
business
clean
and
that
they're
replacing
these
things
so
often,
I
I
think
I
submitted
a
video
that
you
guys
were
like
you
can
the
moment
they
turn
on.
You
see
it
all
come
in.
Is
it
something?
I
could
keep
yeah.
A
A
D
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R
In
the
water,
through
the
main
system,
up
to
the
property
and
then
from
the
property
point,
inward
is
the
responsibility
of
the
business
owner
or
the
property
owner.
So
the
problem
may
not
be
within
the
city's
distribution
system.
It
could
be
from
the
street
to
from
the
street
where
the
city
delivers
it
to,
and
the
problem
could
be
on
the
other
side
of
History,
yeah
and
that'll
itself
go
in
there
and
replace
those
lines
from.
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Maybe
would
it
would
it
be
I
know,
would
it
be
asking
that
we
have
an
inventory
of
the
needs
of
downtown,
because
when
I've
asked
in
the
past
for
the
projects
and
the
investment
for
the
cities
made
downtown
I
can't
even
get
a
full
of
like
a
comprehensive
view
of
the
work?
That's
been
done,
the
work
that
needs
to
be
done
so,
maybe
just
because
I
think
here.
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E
They
had
to
basically
tear
down
everything,
go
over
there
and
then
the
processing
in
terms
of
what
they
have
to
go
through
with
fire
and
the
scheduling
of
the
of
the
renewal
and
the
inspection.
It
was
a
big
hassle
for
them
when
but
when
you
say,
go
through
with
fire.
What
are
you
specifically
referring
to?
Well,
let
me
let
me
let
me
let
me
let
me
start
all
over
again.
E
It
was
a
huge
inconvenience
for
this
property
owner,
basically
not
probably
doing
the
food
truck
owner
having
to
disconnect
his
food
truck.
Where
he's
been
there
most
of
the
year,
he's
pretty
static
and
then
having
to
go,
do
the
renewal
and
then
the
the
processing
way,
the
processing
cup
fire
basically
schedules.
The
renewal
was
kind
of
also
I
mean
he
had
to
take
it
and
then
oh
sorry,
we
can
only
come
these
two
days
and
then,
oh
then
sorry
we
were
booked
for
the
day.
E
B
B
You
tell
us
to
go,
but
I
guess
when,
when
we
against
gave
our
input
into
the
food
truck
ordinance,
all
it
was
for
was
the
requirements
for
the
truck
itself,
the
extinguishers,
the
propane
tanks,
the
exit
that
had
nothing
to
do
with
the
dates.
We're
just
told.
Actually
we're
told
that
there's
a
food
truck.
B
E
I
E
The
only
reason-
and
that's
what
I'm
telling
you
that
the
the
landscape
has
changed
so
basically
I'm
not
telling
you
to
change
what's
on,
but
kind
of
revisit
it
and
kind
of
look
and
see
how
we
can
kind
of
assistant
a
lot
of
these
food
trucks
that
are
static
as
an
example
like,
let's
say,
for
example,
the
food
truck
you
know,
they're
also
currently
required
to
come
and
show
up
to
the
site.
Right.
I
know
several
food
trucks
that
have
not
moved
from
their
site.
So
how
did
they
get
approved?.
I
Q
E
E
E
B
I've
been
doing
that
for
a
while,
and
they
kept
mentioning
to
me
that
that
wise
fire
making
people
okay,
you
know
what
we
can
do
I
mean
if
the
ordinance
says
that
the
fire
requirements
are
also
exactly
the
same,
whether
they
come
to
us,
the
old
building
department
or
work
we
physically
go
out.
There
I
mean
it's
the
exact.
F
I
E
D
I
E
There
was
no
food
trucks.
This
has
been
a
very
successful
process
to
having
a
lot
of
small
businesses.
You
know
start
up
so
it's
time
to
revisit
it
and
see
how
we
can
improve
the
process
to
inspect,
to
do
that
when,
when
I
was
thinking
about
this
in
talking
to
some
of
those
guys
they're
like,
can
we
start
looking
at
you
know
some
updates
to
the
ordinance?
Well,
it's
a
little
confusing.
If
you
really
read
it,
I
mean
because
it's
mixed
with
with
food
establishments
and.